4 Reasons Why Married Priests Won’t Solve The “Vocation Crisis” In The West
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Just another project of the Revolutionaries since the time of V2 Council. This is a solution offered to solve a problem. Celibacy will always be a challenge to most human beings for most or all of their lives. Having said that, the Roman Church had massive vocations of priests, monks, nuns and other religious....for at least 100 years-before V2. Of course, the Conciliar Church will never concede that the solution will not solve the problem since THEY and their imposter Church is the problem.
Even looking at the thumbnail makes me feel uncomfortable. Lol.
it sure won't. how about make the mass more solemn. that will bring more vocations
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Great truths
Great video. I appreciate it.
Amen ❤ Mother of G-d, give us holy men of sacrifice to lead us.
I think it's also important to point out that even if there has been married clergy even during the Apostolic era, what was enjoined on them was continence after ordination. Continence is easier when you are celibate, and even in a continent marriage you are still worrying about your wife and any children you might have.
1700 years isn't exactly honest. Adrian II was a married Pope in the mid 800s. His wife Stephania was murdered in 868. It wasn't even a universal discipline for Bishops at that point let alone priests. Formal requirement celibate for Priests in the Latin Rite was not required till Lateran 2 in 1139. In some places it was the norm before that but not exclusively.
No one disagrees with Paul that celibacy is a higher calling, that not the issue at stake. You do have specific western saints who push for wanting it it to be a requirement. The issue at stake is should it be a requirement...and the Roman church did not officially do that until 1139.
Doctors get calls at 3am as well, should married people not be doctors?
I was a Roman Rite Catholic for 30 years and the Latin Church has a huge issue with effeminate men in the priesthood. I've not run into this issue with Eastern Catholics or Orthodox Priests. There are plenty of good Roman Rite Priests, but there is also an unacceptably high % of them who set off any reasonable person's gaydar. This isn't an accusation that they necessarily act on it. But you don't meet a lot of Eastern Catholic Priests who are light in the loafers as it were.
Allowing Married Priests may or may not fix the problem, but its hard to imagine how having the option open for more straight men to join an institution that has a huge gay problem would make it any worse.
Far too many Roman Catholics defend mandatory priestly celibacy as if it is part of the deposit of faith. Or if not part of the deposit of faith it is treated as some logical conclusion of Doctrinal development. Its merely a discipline and not even a universal one. In reality, its a medieval discipline that may, or may not have been a good idea at the time and may or may not still be a good policy today.
The catholic church as the power to bind and unbind and its its wisdom, it believes unmarried clergy are the best for the flock.
It isn't a universal teaching though. It wasn't required for 1100 years. Its a purely Roman Church thing. It isn't doctrine.
It isn't a development of doctrine either. There are 23 Eastern Catholic Churches that don't have that discipline.
If mandated priestly celibacy is anything more than a mere discipline, you are left with a weird situation for Eastern Catholic Churches.
It would mean that they are "Less" Catholic than the Roman Church.
The discipline of Celibate Priests in the west happened at a specific time for specific reasons. The property issue in a medieval socioeconomic system was one of them. Cleaning up the Clergy and ending the scandal was another one.
People argued and lobbied for it on and off for hundreds of years before it became the policy.
Even if the same liberals want to push Women Priests and Married Priests at the same time does not mean they are actually related issues. Women Priests are a dogmatic impossibility. Married Priest, even Bishops or Popes is a matter of discipline and prudence. They are categorically different questions.
The particular issues and conditions that made mandated celibacy seem like a good idea in the 12th century simply don't exist anymore. Owning property is common and no one is worried about the priest's kids inheriting church lands. People are more worried if their priest is into abusing children then they are worried about him abusing his status to keep mistresses.
No one is saying celibacy isn't a higher calling, but at the same time total poverty is a higher calling and we don't demand that of everyone including secular priests. It isn't for everyone and neither is celibacy.
Lots of more traditionally minded Catholics hang on to medieval traditions as if they are apostolic. Another example is receiving from the cup. Some people refuse to take the cup because it was taken away from the laity in the middle ages in the west (if that was ever actually a good idea is completely debatable) but they will insist on sticking to a 700 year old discipline of not receiving from the cup instead of following the 2000 year old tradition that, in the long view of history was the rule.
People pushed and lobbied for mandated celibacy when it made sense, and now that it no longer does, they are within their rights to request a review of the policy.
@@5MinuteCatholicApologetics It isn't a universal teaching though. It wasn't required for 1100 years. Its a purely Roman Church thing. It isn't doctrine.
It isn't a development of doctrine either. There are 23 Eastern Catholic Churches that don't have that discipline.
If mandated priestly celibacy is anything more than a mere discipline, you are left with a weird situation for Eastern Catholic Churches.
It would mean that they are "Less" Catholic than the Roman Church.
The discipline of Celibate Priests in the west happened at a specific time for specific reasons. The property issue in a medieval socioeconomic system was one of them. Cleaning up the Clergy and ending the Scandal was another one.
People argued and lobbied for it on and off for hundreds of years before it became the policy.
Even if the same liberals want to push Women Priests and Married Priests at the same time does not mean they are actually related issues. Women Priests are a dogmatic impossibility. Married Priest, even Bishops or Popes is a matter of discipline and prudence. They are categorically different questions.
The particular issues and conditions that made mandated celibacy seem like a good idea in the 12th century simply don't exist anymore.
No one is saying celibacy isn't a higher calling, but at the same time total poverty is a higher calling and we don't demand that of everyone including secular priests. It isn't for everyone and neither is celibacy.
Lots of more traditionally minded Catholics hang on to medieval traditions as if they are apostolic. Another example is receiving from the cup. Some people refuse to take the cup because it was taken away from the laity in the middle ages in the west (if that was ever actually a good idea is completely debatable) but they will insist on sticking to a 700 year old discipline instead of following the 2000 year old tradition that, in the long view of history was the exception to the rule.
People pushed and lobbied for mandated celibacy when it made sense, and now that it no longer does, they are within their rights to request a review of the policy.
That’s the best take I’ve ever read on this issue...and I completely agree... mandatory celibacy in today’s church is indefensible. Many more normal young men would be willing to consider the priesthood if they had the option to marry. The church could tackle the divorce epidemic with a iron clad Vatican prenup for the wife since they are the ones divorcing over nothing 80% of the time.
@@j.p.rankin1110 I know good men who went though years of seminary to drop out because they felt like they were called to be married and yet they still feel the tug to the priesthood. They won't become eastern Catholics Priest because it is drilled so hard into their heads that the only way to be a "Real" priest is the celibate path. Also they don't want to be Eastern Catholic for other reasons.
The prelates in the latin church didn't have a choice and so they work to reinforce the discipline system they had to follow. Similar to how hazing is enforced by the same people who were once hazed.
It might have made sense at one point but it no longer does, same as it maybe made sense to withhold the cup from the laity at one point (pretty debatable but might have) but that discipline resorted to the older tradition because those circumstances no-longer apply either.
I think ordaining only married men for diocesan priesthood would give a healthier quality of men with fewer sexual dysfunctions. Brothers and priests living in religious orders would remain celebate.
How though? Im seeing so many married men, Catholic and non catholic still struggle and live somewhat unbalanced lives. You want to had the burden and eternal consequences that come with tending entire church and hundreds or thousands of souls on top of a biological family? Trust the Church's wisdom for having the current discipline for celibacy. Married priests wont solve the issue anymore than it will stop the schism in the East
I spoke with a Greek Orthodox who pointed out that Greek government supports Greek priests and that Greek Orthodox priests families still struggle financially
Less sexual dysfunctions, sadly I think this is short sided. I feel you may be looking at one scenario and not thinking what dysfunctions marriages in itself can bring. Just my opinion
Is there a vocation crisis or a people not going to mass crisis? Great video.
To me, it makes sense because even the orthodox understand it makes sense because they don’t allow their bishops to Marry because I understand that the responsibility to have a married life and be religious is difficult
Married priests are far better than no priests
wouldn’t this be considered a bandaid and only looking at short term fixes without looking at long term consequences
The few "MARRIED" Latin Rite priests I know (has to be approved by the Pope), are ALL military Chaplains. You do avoid a few of the problems that would happen in a regular parish, BUT ... they are living unique lives.
Distinguo did a video on clerical celibacy that was very eye-opening. I’d recommend people watch it for insight on this issue
how about protect your kids and homeschool them. that will bring in vocations
But there are. Some former Anglican who are married have come into the church as priests. Not Ordinariate.
I think only few eastern catholic rites have married priests even though there is provision for marriage. I am from syro malabar church in India. There is also another rite called syro malankara church in India. Both these churches don't have married priests in general as a discipline. I think there is a gross misconception that all eastern rites have married priests. I haven't seen a single married priest in all my 32 years of existence in the above mentioned rites.
The orthodox and the broader sense will hear what they wanna hear.
Please don't lump married male priests in the same context as "women priests" Married men can be priests, but women can NEVER become priests. If the Roman church would allow married men to become priests you would have a bigger pool of applicants to pick from, and not just restricting yourselves to men who don't like women. I feel that all of the sexual issues in the Roman church could be greatly reduced if you expanded your search to include men who are married. The Orthodox churches don't seem to have the problems that the Roman church seems to have. Also if you want more vocations, PLEASE get rid of that ghastly Vatican II liturgy, it really is lousy, get rid of the eucharistic ministers, girl servers and other abominations. Replace the Vatican II liturgy with the Ordinariate Liturgy as the new ordinary rite, and allow the extraordinary TLM to be celebrated without restriction.
You’re trying to imply that being unmarried causes pedophilia?
Orthodox are losing members faster and are in total only 10% of all Christians worldwide and the only shrinking branch in absolute numbers.
@@markkirkland561 How about a partially-translated TLM, which V2 actually called for?
Probably not gay though. Take a lesson from Peter, get married.
God does not will it.
The mainline Protestants ruin. Their church is not only with Mary and clergy, but just really really bad theology like open homosexual clergy.