Ordinary 1950s Man Didn't Get The Sexual Revolution But Lived A Great Life
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- My subscribers have been asking me to, on occasion, post a complete interview without edits. This is one. The person asking the questions is my coexecutive producer on my television series on the 1960s. The interview was conducted in 1989 as part of 180 interviews we did for that series. My idea was to talk with ordinary people from all political and social stripes about their experiences of that time. You can see more of him here- • What Makes a REAL Man ... #1960s #sexualrevolution #1950sfamily #1950smarriage
Jeez this was 89, imagine what this guy would think of the world now.
drag queens and hajis, drag queens and hajis... fucked up world
@R B J ironic that you call him out for being out of context, but so are you. In what way is he being transphobic?
@@dankdark974 Nothing says informed like spelling the name of the people you hate wrong
@@QueenMoontime I think to be grammatically correct yourself you would not say "hate wrong" but rather "hate incorrectly".I'm rusty on my grammar myself but I believe you used the word "wrong" incorrectly.
This video isnt from 1989 dude they couldnt film in 1080p lmfao
I think what he's trying to say is that to him, the sexual revolution promoted unhealthy relationships and addictions that undermined what he defined as a healthy society.
Barrios Groupie And he’s absolutely right.
@@rafaelzengo5534 well, if you both like sex then great but for me personally marriage is there to commit to bringing in the next generation of humanity.
Well, the thing is, society did promote very unhealthy relationships too in his time : a very restrictive, stiffling, normative model of what a family should be, what a relationship should be like, love, children, sex, the division of roles within the family between genders… (much life the labour division in the workplaces of his time). Back in the 50s-60s, contrary to popular belief, a lot of married couples would actually divorce, even though it used to be a way more difficult choice to make socially and legally. In a way, the "sexual revolution" didn't quite reach the "liberated sexuality and romance" stage that some seek and others accuse of destroying society. But it was a step towards that : a society where people can do and be whatever they want, independently. However, in our current state, sexuality has mostly been "liberalized" rather than "liberated", meaning the traits that made for unhealthy relationships are still underpinning our behaviours, and the newer areas of experimentations are held in submission to the laws of industry and commodification (pornography, dating, etc). There is still work ahead.
@@Johnny_Sunshine Taking it from the point of view of the individual, many marriages in the past and nowadays have failed because the people themselves failed at knowing what marriage is, knowing themselves, their partners, and had unrealistic expectations, many times led by greed or the desire of social status. It's not an immaterial entity called '''society and its bad rules'' that is all to blame. Way back in the past people were forced to get married by social contracts between families. This isn't my idea of a good marriage. These times are pretty much gone, at least in western nations, and still marriages fail. We have to take people's responsibility into the equation, not just societal forces. In general, people these days look for marriage when they want to start a family, or when they see some '''personal gain'''. So men look for a good looking woman to give them healthy children. That is the social currency on the woman's side. On the other hand, a woman wants a man who has the financial means to sustain her children and herself, and also give them ''''a comfortable stable life''. That is the social currency on the man's side. When things are done this way, both have failed in their intentions, because they didn't look for love in the first place. They didn't want to make a union primarily based on their love of each other and the good feeling they get from this, intending to last a whole lifetime regardless of difficulties, misery, disease, whatever. Its very simple - a marriage will only last when both people love each other and want to be with each other. If there isn't this premise, they will find many things to blame - '''societal norms'', too much work, the relationship 'cooled down'', daddy got a brand new pair of boobs in his 40's (because mommy's weren't that great anymore), mommy found a richer guy, because that useless loser wasn't making enough for the everyday mall trip and the hairdresser's bill, etc. Consumerism is only a thing because people still fall for it, still want to lead a life of material accumulation instead of spiritual fulfillment. So I expect marriages to fail before anything these days, given the scenario. If people said NO to consumerism, no to TV, no to shopping malls and the whole lifestyle, and refused to buy superficial things that they don't really need, all this system would vanish. So, while the capitalists at the top of the chain are certainly to blame, for they keep pushing these false ideals onto us, the people themselves are even more to blame for not moving their asses in the right direction.
Now, from the point of view of the sexual liberation, it's the same root problem - people look for dischargeable relationships because they don't want to bother with the bad things when they eventually come. They don't look for real love, therefore they don't love anybody besides themselves and their idea of fun. They want only fun and good times, treating others as momentary pieces of meat without the slightest intention of committing to or loving anyone. This lifestyle can only last for so long. When they reach their 40's and 50's, they start to understand why many people choose the marriage route. Now that they're not as fresh, not as pretty, not as lively, started to develop health problems, and other problems, they look around to find nobody sticking with them, supporting them, going through difficulties with them. So now the only option they have is to go full-blown new-age, lift their nose and pretend that they didn't need anybody in the first place. Some people, a minority, would be better off alone. But the majority of us, something like 99%, will eventually realize why love, marriage and commitment are things.
@@Johnny_Sunshine Yeah "unhealthy relationships". The same relationships that's kept society stable for generations.
Even within the hippie movement there was an expression "there might be free love but not free from consequences".
lol cant have a baby if your gay
Chris Jones but you can have aids
@@ChrisJones-rd4wb You can still get all kinds of diseases if you aren't carefull. Use protection kids!
@@qwertyqwerty-ek7dy chad single partner gang, also its common to get tested before being in a relationship these days
We called it “generation x” and it gave us grunge rock and Courtney Love. Mistakes were made.
This guy's voice is like butter spread on a slice of warm toast with a side of whiskey.
Yeah that‘s the testosterone the older generations had. Listen to some old audiobooks or recordings, the all sound like that or even more powerful
Hahahah amazing 👌
@@El_Tigre88 Christopher Lee is another good example, dudes got one of the most commanding baritone voices on record IMO.
Luke i agree, Lee has one of the best voices ever, pure power
@@UltimateGamer-vg3nh Nah it’s about the size of vocal chords. Maybe eating testosterone boosting foods and vocal training would help.
"We should have more diversified type occupations representing the people in the country- I mean I don't see any carpenters up in congress" I absolutely love this guy.
True diversity.
We pretty much need stronger unions
Should we replace doctors too with people that aren't qualified for the position. See how that goes?
@@davefx7949 If we had more doctors in our government, decisions made on healthcare would be more well-informed. Each person elected into our government represents a certain interest. So when we elect people that used to work for a certain company and have a personal stake in it, they have a greater likelihood of implementing policies that only benefit that said company. For example, Ajit Pai used to work for Verizon Communications, where he specifically handled governmental regulatory issues as the Associate General Counsel. Afterwards he began work in the FCC, where he immediately started to advocate for repealing net neutrality. This action would directly benefit Verizon. If we elected people that represented the entirety of the American population, then we would actually have a government that represented the people.
@@normandybeachparty There are medical experts that advice elected officials currently. They are more than fit for the job. The problem is, like with Trump. Sometimes they just refuse to listen and instead get their information from viral facebook posts hahahaha.
After watching several hours of Hoffman interviews, I am struck by how these people, whatever their political orientation or verbal sophistication, speak with a nuance that is captivating. They make a point, then qualify it, then reassert it, then qualify that point, and so on. It's a form of speech that is literally unimaginable in the anonymous-keyboard world of trolls and bloggers. And no wonder: these people actually engaged in live conversations with other people, day in and day out. It was an everyman's/everywoman's craft.
Thank you George. I pride myself on getting from just about everyone the quality of communication you articulate.
David Hoffman - filmmaker
*Everygender's.*
Be PC. Be so very PC.
speak for yourself lol
George deMan this speech is not dying it’s just not being showcased
Scientists are finding high amounts of aluminum in the brain. It's neurologically toxic and used extensively in vaccines. Some kids from this new generation look like a space case before they reach 16. They just cannot think. And I'm not trying to be rude, it's a serious issue. People from before the 60s received a few vaccines. Kids today receive 34 or more. The medical community is not addressing the build up in the brain because it's only measurable after death. Which means that it's next to impossible to prove where the aluminum came from.
This man is an old-school American. He articulates well how people thought before the mid-1960s revolution.
if we could only go back
@@MrBillcale I think it best to look to the past for inspiration, not to wish to live in it. You're living Now, not in the Past or Future. Sure, make good _solid_ plans for the future and learn from the past but don't waste your life now over longing for bygones.
@@101Volts if only we could go back
William Sands lmao
Good thing nobody asked him about sharing drinking fountains with "coloreds" or else the comment section might not be lauding him...or maybe it would :(
“School was cheap in those days” says him in 1989. I wonder what he’d think of the price of tuition today
He was talking about 50s and 60s not 1989
@@NuonCheaKhmer he was talking about 50s and 60s relative to 1989 on the subject of education cost.
@@delmanpronto9374 thank you that was exactly what I was saying
@@NuonCheaKhmer so just imagine how expensive he’d think prices would be today if he thought they were expensive in 1989 😂
@@deadheadwsp705 the 50’s and 60’s you could just walk onto like Stanford’s campus to the main office and like sign up for classes😂
My grandpa was born in '24 and he's still alive and sharp mentally.
I loved this interview because it's the kind of conversation I like to have with my grandpa.
@Genius Idiot I'd watch that regularly
Michael Helwig Yeah man record it!!
I will if I ever get back to see him before one of us dies. You see: I have ALS and live in middle Tennessee and he lives where I grew up; in Ontario Canada.
I haven't been to see him in 3years now.
Sorry to disappoint but unless a miracle happens on my end, I may never see him again on earth.
@@michaelhelwig5712 God bless you!
@@heimatliebe116 thank you and may God bless you as well.
"I dont even wanna look at a politician, from 5 feet away. I don't wanna get that close to em"... . I laughed so hard😂😂😂
In modern terms: based
it would be 50ft now...
I guess that’s one good thing we got from Covid
stands 1000% true today my gosh.
Didn't know old america actually had values like these. Media portrays it differently.
This is what we mean when we say Maga. It isn't a anti black thing it's a desire for a desire for civility again.
I'm 54, nearly all the people of my grandparents generation spoke this way, and acted this way. Also, they were from Washington, DC, the real city, not the political city.
@@blinkth3dog So far trump has made this country worse.
America is less moral and more vulgar than it was when this man was in his prime. However, the average American is still not so bad. You get a false sense of reality by watching American TV shows and movies and watching the behavior of American politicians and celebrities.
@@theuberman7170 Trump may be an a-hole, but most of his policies have taken us in the right direction. He has also done a wonderful job of exposing the insanity of the left and its complicit media. I did not vote for him in 2016, but will be doing so in 2020 to keep the forward momentum and, most importantly, to keep the new radical DNC from having a chance to do what they are doing to California and Illinois.
As a foreigner, I have a love-hate relationship with American culture. I see today's influencers and celebrities and it gives me the chills to see such a renowned society (at least in third-world countries like mine) deteriorating. But at the same time, I see some ol' time folks like this fella, and it reminds me why American culture is so celebrated abroad. Eloquence and rationality, that's what I see here, and it gives me joy, for I learned this language to understand better this worldview. Despite all political and social turmoil, I hope the American people get back to their feet, and together, sew a brighter future which honours its great past.
Your perspective of us is profound and humbling.
I can’t believe you guys think of us like that lmao, everyone here is a fucking dunce, so much corruption, scandals, college too expensive, rent too expensive for lots of current entry to mid level jobs, it’s a shit show, of unfair and rigged system. However this is America so we all still love it even though it’s shit.
@@billybluess the United States will be South Africa 2.0.
Well said Sir, kinda sumps up my view of Murcia as well
You can find eloquent and insightful people anywhere. He is not representative of anything "American" more than any other American is. There's no larger national/generational significance just because people like the guy.
I loved every minute of this man's interview. I remember when old people used to be like that. The current generation of old people are nothing like the past generation of old people.
It's pretty scary. Historically, the old had words of wisdom and stories that could teach the newer generation how to prepare for the future. When my generation is old, the young will only be able to use us as an example of how NOT to be. Anything we suggest, they may want to do the opposite.
@@christiancardenas6811 No, don't give up on yourself. You are as dumb and useless as you want to be.
I'd say it depends on the person. I know some very wise and open minded older people, but I know some that seem a little brainwashed too
That's because the new old people lived the sexual revolution era. No truamatic life or death experiences. Pusillanimous
I'm sensing several levels of juvenoia.
I’m not sure who the gentleman in the video is, but I could listen to him for hours, what a truly wise, well spoken and intelligent man.
I agree, totally down to earth and of reasonable thought and expression. I kept wondering what was or had been his occupation.
He talks on forever - and you WANT want him to talk on forever.
@@RookhKshatriya ...My observations are while he spoke well, he reveled a minimal oppeness to experiances that were certainly accelerating thru the sixtys. One being the sexual revolution which was often difficult for men who had little education and who grew up in a restrictive often religious upbringing. Women got freedom from unplanned or unwanted pregnecy. Then. there was the discovery and reveal of their own sexuality. When I returned home from a enlistment in the Navy , four years that might as well be a lifetime, I saw young women estranged in some degree from their mothers by having discovered they had a clitoris. And their mothers apparently didnt!
Yeah
@Ornithocheirus oh, they had one, just didn't acknowledge it nor were they open to learning. Ignorance of sexual matters was pervasive .
This man has such a great voice and perspective. Thanks!
Kento love his intellectual.
wish he would stop snifflin
@@joem8496
That’s one of the many effects of becoming older in age.
This video feels like cleansing compared what's on the trending.
It's because the simplicity. Simplicity radiates power and leverage.
Throat baby
@@hastyz7325 toilet baby
Ikr. Great take btw.
@@Lousasshol boomer baby
It always amazes me how this guy being "just" a cab driver sounds so informed and is able to articulate the times as well as he can but nowadays the general population would consider him uneducated.
Don't know about that. I consider him more educated than most of the general population. 'Course, the right word is wisdom.
Man from a different time.
Well this simple cab driver is definitely smarter and more articulate than a gen z college kid
@@MrSERGEANT100I think that’s what he’s saying. That some would consider him uneducated due to his profession, but he’s got a lot of wisdom in his years. He even admits he grew smarter and changed his mind on various things.
@@therealsapdad1942Yeah, cause he’s older and wiser. I’m a millennial and for years and years, our generation was berated by the elders based on the actions of a few (social media exaggerated people’s foolishness, and just showed how we all can be foolish, regardless of age) so I am not keen on bashing the next generation. They’re barely out of high school. Give them time. They’ll grow older and wiser just like we did and the gentleman in the video did.
Believe this is : MELVIN H. BAKER
Tour Guide
Melvin H. Baker, 60, a retired Washington tour guide and a taxi driver, died of congestive heart failure Dec. 25, 1991 at Frederick Memorial Hospital in Maryland. He had diabetes.
Mr. Baker, who lived in Frederick, was born in Washington. He graduated from McKinley Technical High School.
He was a tour guide with White House Tours for about 25 years before retiring about 10 years ago. In the off-season, he drove taxis.
In retirement, Mr. Baker drove taxis for Barwood Cabs in Montgomery County. He had not worked for the last year because of illness.
He had been a Boy Scout leader in Greenbelt. Survivors include his wife, Gloria Baker of Frederick, and ....
you are correct.
David Hoffman-filmmaker
Thank you. I appreciate your information. Makes it seem even more real.
@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker I love your work and I wish you the best of health (I do have to admit that it's not completely altruistic)
Wow i live in frederick MD
@@mr.pumpkine8070 I ❤ Frederick... really artsy, funky city.
"framework of dependency" dude nailed it there.
Exactly.
Which is what this country was never ever founded on.
That was the intended purpose. The powerful wanted to break up the families and make women dependent on government rather than their husbands.
@@adamselene9264
What a success story.
@@sunfishdana Communists did it - not a joke...
@@adamselene9264
What do you mean?
“At the end of the day, at the end of it all, people will forget what you said to them. They won’t remember the words, and they won’t remember what you did. But what they will remember, what they’ll never forget, is how you made them feel.”
Is that exub1a?
@@benh5038 nope, that’s my great great aunt. Still kickin too
@@Bioshockaholic oh cool, sounds like a wise woman
@@benh5038 no kidding. Multiple cancers survived, broken bones at 90+, widow, still rockin and rollin. Hard to complain when you know there are actual people like that
@@Bioshockaholic all the best to you and your family
This man didn't get the sexual revolution, but gets it.
@@tedmccarron yeah you geddit?
Why does this dumb statement have 200+ thumbs up?
@@majestyk3337 I did not proof read my own statement before I posted, but I see it resonated with some people. I didn't know I got so many thumbs ups. :)
@@majestyk3337 cause you too ignorant to realise that the sexual revolution demoralised, subverted and sent an entire generation adrift, and still fucking does
@@nicomurder i can’t believe you wasted your time on this comment from a year ago, do something better
Another aspect of these videos are the accents. His Mid-Atlantic DC accent is not spoken by anyone under 50. Its remarkable how similar it is to the Baltimore accent. Also to a lesser degree, the Italian shop keeper in Wilmington.
I'm 54. I grew up just outside DC listening to this accent. Occasionally I hear it slipping out as i speak, even though I've been in the deep South for over 30 years.
I love these videos for the accents as well. I miss this America.
Didn't know there was a Mid-Atlantic DC accent. I took his accent for a Baltimore accent.
To a foreigner whose country does everything to protect dialects and accents, it's interesting to me how America seems obsessed in stereotyping and undermining that which isn't the "general accent". Not an unique phenomenon for sure, but America is so huge one wonders how it's possible. I guess with enough pressure.
@@busterbiloxi3833 People forget that D.C. was once a heavily Southern influenced city
I so miss this type of American. When I was a child in the 70's all the older people talked like this man. Nuanced with thought, experience and detail. The regional accents were still intact and you could tell who someone was from by these accents. Real conversations were the norm. Not today. So sad.
My single mother can't handle a real conversation. Always interrupts, gets offended, doesn't understand critical thinking, is heavy handed, tries for the moral high ground, and ignores what they don't understand and can't change their mind easily on topics. Doesn't even care what the research says half the time.
@@mimszanadunstedt441 I'm so sorry to hear that. Is there another adult you can go to for support? A teacher or maybe an aunt, uncle or other relation who can listen to you and maybe help to bridge the gap between you and her.
@@lilylittlemonster5 naw she is impossible. Simple as that.
@@mimszanadunstedt441 Sorry to hear that. Seems to be all too common these days.
It's too bad your generation didn't listen a little closer to them.
As a 24 year old, I wish this man was the norm now.
You wish it was a scandal if you spent the night with your significant other?
Thomas Yes. Hookup culture is terrible for your mental health, the same way doing drugs is.
As a 50 year old, so do I. I grew up in the 70s and 80s and remember a lot of poeple like him.
I think I wish he is the norm too
Nah, their opinion doesn’t matter. Live your best life. What you do with it is up to you.
Ironically, this is the kind of man who should be a politician.
unironically
Statesmen*
Politicians are criminal's.
that is intrinsecally why he is not a politician
@@slovakiaballif24 It's really crazy how the cameras went out 10 minutes before he shot himself in the back from the other side of the room, sadly we will never know how he did such a crazy thing 🤔
Should he be ironically or unironically a politician? Sorry it's 3am
See here - I don’t even agree with this guys opinions entirely. But, he is so rational. He enforced that he strictly believes one thing - and then says “ya know it might just be because I’m from a different generation.” I like how he asserts his opinion somewhat strongly, but isn’t there to convince you he is right, or the “good guy”. Which is what way too many people do nowadays.
Meanwhile... the comments are loaded with rabid reactionaries assured that single moms will bring forth the apocalypse or something. They'd shit bricks if they were ever to see Western Europe lmao
@@hangukhiphop ya, and western europe ain't doing so great lately
@@shmutz6051 lol it's doing way better than the US
@@hangukhiphop As someone who grew up in Western Europe, it's gone really downhill and I much prefer the US as a place to live.
@@Admiral_Jezza Orly? What's different about it now ( _oh please please please God don't let him say the Muslims_ )?
An ordinary man of his time, but now, he’d be a diamond in the rough. Awesome interview
This man is equal parts pessimistic, insightful, and self-aware. This was great, thanks.
1989 is when this interview was done. He is probably no longer with us. This generation is almost gone. I miss them. He wouldn't be able to cope in today's world.
I'm 42 and I can barely cope.
I'm 29 I cannot cope either.
Im 8 months old and I can’t cope either
@@9millii267 Ha.
does anyone know where he is now
bro that mic is so good its even better than my 2019 headset wtf XDXD
What kind of mic is it?
It helps to have an amazing voice as his.😀
Becuase its as big as a ps4 and its right above his head
Dude, nowdays everything or almost everything is done cheap, disposable, literally trash. Only if you are kind of rich you can get yourself quality and durability. Back then even quality was first, and not too long ago I must say.
i damn sure it is better, it is professional grade microphone, for God's sake
Wow, he thought news traveled fast via TVs, if only he got to see the web! Its a gift, and a curse.
Wonder if he did get to see the web.
It;s a gift for the enlightened and a curse for the ignorant.
Depends on how you use it. Even water's both good and bad; you can be nourished by much needed water or you can drown in it. So it is for much in life. Drive safely.
@@SonyVegas10 Said well. An absolutely beutiful statement.
@@dominicstewart-guido7598 I don't think so, it's far too simplistic. The world is not made up of only enlightened and ignorant people.
Beyond that, the internet is a blessing and a curse to each and everyone of us and all of us collectively.
I'm 60. I have two daughters, 37 and 35. Based upon the stupidity of my own experience and their mother's experience, I told them the following many, many times as they were growing up: "When you graduate from high school, choose a profession than you enjoy and I will help you with your education. After you're self-sufficient, make yourself available and remember this: "drugs, drinking and sex are very dangerous, especially sex. Do not be promiscuous at all. Trust me." They both now have very rewarding careers in medicine, they both have 3 beautiful children, and excellent, slightly older husbands who value them greatly. The "formula" so to speak was always simple and easy to follow. Thanks for reading.
This man drove a cab. He knew. You learn most things, over many years chatting to passengers.
This guy was spot on about politicians and lawyers. Great interview this guy reminds me of my great uncle same generation.
im a 24 year old male living in the uk. i like this guy and agree with his values
David Hoffman's work is truly a treassure to our society. I can imagine, at the time they were filmed, these interview would have just been seen as somewhat mundane. But now that they're available today to the public online and to future generations, they are such valuable time capsule that tell us so much about the attitudes and beliefs of people in the past.
You said exactly what I felt.
He has it right. You often need another lawyer to decipher other lawyers. I hope this guy is alive and still around great soul
Simp he's been gone since 91
@@02powertube www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1991/12/27/chester-clifton-jr-dies/2c1da598-91d8-4597-a32c-494545dc1fa8/
Keep scrolling till you get to Melvin H Baker. He died of congestive heart failure. He was 60.
@@tmm4633 This guy is a cab driver?
@@guyeshel9316 Yeah that looks like him
We need a therapist to dechipher another therapist???
Wow, his voice is everything you'd want to hear on the radio.
I wish he was my grandpa I could listen to this man for hours
this is a person with a lot of nuanced views and willingness to entertain others' opinions while being firm in his own. when he joked abt maybe being jealous of the goofy kids with colored mohawks bc he's balding, it made me smile. we need more of that today. a sense of humor and humility
Exactly right.
This man was very articulate in talking about such a complicated and inter-woven subject that the 50's and 60's were. I really enjoyed listening to him. I assume that he was a cab diver ? If so, then I find that fascinating because I thought he was just as articulate ( yea, I already used that word, but it's such a good word..! ) in what he said and how he said it, as any of the professional educators and other 'professionals' that I have heard in these videos.
12:07 He pauses for half a second. You can hear the words "carry on" said by a diffrent voice before he says them. There is few other instances like this but this is the most prominent. This interview is scrypted. He is listening to a lector reading the text to him. Doesn't mean it's fake. These could be words written by him earlier on.
Why doesn't anyone notice how eloquent ordinary people are? Do you talk to anyone at length that you might interact with in your daily life? Most people, who are at ease and given the chance, have the ability to be this eloquent. There isn't much difference between the expression of someone with an IQ of 105 & 120. Also, the skill involved in old school cab driving, essentially memorization of entire metro areas and calculating the fastest route to a destination based on that memorization, is perhaps more skillful than a lecture recited by your average professor. It's elitism. I wish ppl would recognize the skill & intelligence involved in the average blue-collar job.
@@blackcat19778 I am writing this one year later, and we all know that the comment section is timeless, so Bilal Haldys, I feel compelled to respond to your comments. I was intrigued by your saying that this man's words were scripted. I very strongly disagree; how could you say that; he was talking from his own memories and experiences; you could plainly see when his eyes turned inward and searched in his own mind for words. Saying that he was just repeating what someone off-camera was saying is absurd and ridiculous. But let us assume just for the sake of this writing, that he really was repeating what he was hearing off-camera or even more conspiratorial, what he was hearing in a tiny ear piece in his right ear. Why, that makes this man even smarter more eloquent than what I said in my opening post !!! You mentioned the 1/2 second "pause" at 12:07, saying that we can hear a "different" voice before he says "carry on". This is just as silly and absurd as accusing him of reading from a memorized a script. But...just to try and give you the benefit of the doubt, I played back that part several...several...times, and listened very closely. There was NO ONE telling him those words; he was searching his own mind for the term that he wanted to use. And this is what he did at other times when he would pause for a second to find the right words in his mind that he wanted to use. This is what extemporaneous speech is. It is an unscripted talk/speech given where one speaks from his/her own experiences and knowledge and NOT from a prepared text and NOT from someone whispering in your ear. You tried to destroy this man's eloquence and his accumulated life's experiences and knowledge and ability to speak from those acquired experiences. You owe this man an apology.
@@marbleman52 Hey, he just get the timestamp wrong. Try listening a few seconds before, with headphones and the volume to the maximum. It's very subtitle.
12:05
@@marbleman52 The guy you think it's wrong is actually right.
His name was Melvin H. Baker. He was 58 at the time of recording.
Mr. Baker, who lived in Frederick, was born in Washington. He graduated from McKinley Technical High School.
He was a tour guide with White House Tours for about 25 years before retiring in 1981. In the off-season, he drove taxis.
In retirement, Mr. Baker drove taxis for Barwood Cabs in Montgomery County. He had not worked for the last year because of illness.
A retired Washington tour guide and a taxi driver, died of congestive heart failure Dec. 25, 1991 at Frederick Memorial Hospital in Maryland. He had diabetes.
Thanks for the background.
Thank you. He died young💔
At the end when he’s talking about the kids of “this generation” in 1989 he means Gen-X. There wasn’t really any way for him to know that the politics of 60s and the teachers that came out of it would have such a strong effect on the Millennials that were just starting to be born at that time.
I'm sorry, you mean "Millennial scum".
@@SpaceCattttt kiss me
@@wastedkami9605 All right. Let me spit out my week-old chewing tobacco first.
@@SpaceCattttt hyuk
teppolundgren now hold on. I’ve met people of the Millennial generation, and I know many of them now have a head on their shoulders. They have different ways and they got same ways. They’ll surprise you, some of them. I’ve worked alongside them, and I know.
My grandfather is 82, born in 1939 and grew up in the 50s. He has so many great stories and insights like this. They truly are a dying breed in our society.
Amazing how this guy asserts his opinion yet still allows the possibility that others may see the world in a different light.
This gentleman is captivating. I've always liked the definitive quality of Traditionalists. Something about being forged in the Great Depression and then going directly into WWII gave this generation them most wonderful constitution. My Boomer parents always told us we were biased because they were our grandparents and by the time we Xer's were born -- the Traditionalists were more gracious and enlightened then when they were young parents and spouses. I guess there's some merit to that. I just know at the absolute worst times in my life, it was always a Traditionalist who gave me the wisdom and comfort I needed to be emboldened enough to have hope and continue on. I love this generation and am grateful you captured his thoughts on tape.🌟💝🕊
I hope we return to that traditionalism :)
My mum was very different as a 65 year old grandma than at 40 when she was raising me.
It's normal.
"The sexual revolution and it's consequences"
Ded Sazynsky...
@Khaki Shorts And all the psychological crap it comes with (mostly on the children), I'm not suprised the suicide rates in all age groups, but especially teens, have gone to the moon
It's amazing consequences
@@clarkydarklestein5514 the only bad thing of that is the STD lol
@@lubu2960 degenerate* consequences
"...there is always a politician who put an end to this." This person said the universal truth.
He said that he did not believe the 1960's left any kind of legacy. That's an incredible perspective, because flash forward today and we now have nine states that just legalized pot and all fifty states that legalized gay marriage. Organic and vegan trends taking over the supermarkets, and electric car companies trying to phase out gasoline. Not to mention that who would have thought the music of that time period would still be popular today? What a difference in perspective time can make, an amazing interview.
Ben Kleschinsky I think it’s left a mostly negative legacy besides the civil rights movement. I think the things you mentioned would have happened one way or another to be honest. Just my opinion.
Gay marriage was only legalized via legislation from the bench in the Supreme Court. The majority of states had outlawed it. California even voted AGAINST legalizing it (prop 8), but the court overturned it because “the people voted wrong”. Roughly half of the nation still opposes gay marriage.
Yes. And dysfunctional relationships galore, bitter single moms leeching of 'daddy Gov', superficial intimacy. Well...fucking...done.
Yeah he should have the 60s didn't leave any kind of good legacy
Looking back at this video. I thought it was very powerful when he said, a legacy is when Roosevelt devised the Social Security Act. He handed something down to the next generations. You had something concrete you could hold onto. I will say this. If JFK, MLK, and RFK were never assassinated, the 60's would have left an even bigger legacy than it has left today. The world would be a different place today.
His self-awareness is fantastic throughout this interview. He's constantly trying to pinpoint through interior reflection why he feels any certain way. What a great subject for an unedited clip like this.
That said, the point he makes about women (pregnant women specifically) lacking technical skills is fascinating, rhetorically speaking. I think he pinpoints the issue but skirts around aspects towards solution. There are always aspects of tradition in our conduct, in our thoughts but that shouldn't restrict us from human progress, betterment regardless.
Great comment however I very much agree with wearealltubes .
The solution is the return to community and the family unit.
What a beautiful interview with a wonderful and well-spoken man. All these Hoffman interviews are pure pleasure for the ears. Thanks for doing them and especially for posting them online.
This guys so amazing. He is a great traditional high-value man with good traditional values. Watching this interview is so enlighteming.
A message to David Hoffman. If you have any more footage of Melvin Baker in your archive could you please post it. This man has such a charm and sense about him, and that voice could calm a storm.
Growing up in the nineties... something deep down always kept me in check. Things I can articulate now in my late thirties. The misery caused by loose living. It's fun for a season... but the long-term repercussions. Not only on oneself, but on innocent people.
Women lack this ability so government targets them to go against the family
Cody Bartlett ?
ok ok stop he’s right
Yes.
Wisdom beyond your years
I'm so glad this man didn't have to witness Tik-Tok.
tik-tok is such an awful platform
Noelle Anzivine
“Tik tok makes me look bad”
Imagine: this man didn’t trust politicians back 30+ years ago. If he were still around today, he would want to be a **lot, lot** farther than 5 feet.
And now you understand why Trump was popular with the older generation.
@@TeNiPersonalityGrowth because the older generation are fools and easily convinced by con men spouting fascist rhetoric? Yeah, we know.
Politicians have always sucked. Even the ancients knew that. Look at the Greeks complaining of local corruption.
@@TeNiPersonalityGrowth He's literally no different.
I doubt this guy would've voted for either choice.
@@GalacticNovaOverlord This guy would see through all the bipartisan bullshit
Whats amazing about this man is that he isn't afraid to say "i don't know why" (e.g at 6:10). That is an amazing trait.
Could be called "this ordinary man has good, common sense about the Sexual Revolution."
That common sense includes NOT clutching his pearls about it like it's the end of civilization like all the hysteric clods in the comment section.
Connorfer We are just feeling the effects of the sexual revolution now, in this day and age. They are striking like a tsunami, all the numbers are in on the matter. The nail in the coffin for the West was the sexual revolution: people never seemed to realize that sex has far deeper, far greater reaching effects than an orgasm, both to individuals, relationships, and families. The family is what bore the brunt of the effect, and the family, being the most basic building block of society, has fallen.
@@arcarsenal420 more divorce, more children out of wedlock, more reliance on an already over-burdened social safety net system...sure seems worth being concerned about.
@@arcarsenal420 Yeah, STDs, adultery and bastards are at an all time high, but there's absolutely no reason to worry. Sure, it might have been a sign of societal collapse in countless of ancient prophesies, like the Kali Yuga, but so what? People were close minded back then. It's not like any of these elements affect society in a bad way, right?
Dank Dark who the hell let their racist grandpa onto TH-cam?
Where is this man buried ? I want to bring him a beer and thank him.
That’s a beautiful thing.
@antoine griezzman And the beer is corona
wholesome
@antoine griezzman well I’ll taste it sitting ,thinking about the good things before I go . Would be the best beer to me .
@antoine griezzman I wouldn’t finish the beer
I think the people applauding this guy's intelligence are missing the point. People of that generation weren't concerned with coming off as "intellectuals," that's why they were able to speak so earnestly.
Exactly. Wisdom trumps knowledge every time
Yes, there was a period of anti intellectualism in america during his day.
@@_c_y_p_3 whether or not you agree with him, he made his point in layman's terms without sounding like a pretentious asshat.
I'd rather be smart then be simple minded but okia lol
@@Homesick47 But that's the thing... very few people actually are smart. The average IQ isn't higher today than it was in the 1950s. But while someone back then who was of average intelligence usually just accepted that they were average, millions of those people today delude themselves into thinking they're geniuses. There are way more fake intellectuals than there use to be, and instead of just saying what they think in a simple and straightforward way, they regurgitate a bunch of terminology they don't really understand and just end up coming off as an ass.
The guy in this video doesn't think he's a professor of sociology because he read a few Wikipedia pages. He's a normal guy, and he doesn't try to sound more authoritative or intelligent than he really is. That's what the people in this comment section like about him, that he's well spoken without being pompous.
This man is so articulate, intelligent, insightful and decent.
This man is the definition of self reflective. Great guy
I am THE CHILD he described in the beginning. This is how I was created. I feel like my parents were very irresponsible. It made it hard for me. I felt like I ruined my mum's life by being born. My mum had two kids by different dads, she's been with her current partner for a looooong time and didn't bother to get married. That's fine but she chose a partner who wasn't committed to being a father to my brother and I. I think the hippies thought they were communal but actually they pushed individualism extremely far. My brother and I are both very open minded and there are some things about our upbringing that were very interesting but we both chose to get married and not have kids out of wedlock. I do not approve of having a kid without providing a stable environment, I think it's ethically wrong. Just my 2c.
The problem is that a stable environment has been, and is, increasingly difficult to obtain.
Sorry about your past my friend. I continually pray that you may do well in life with your new family, and may inspire others too. :)
lovinliverpool hmmm. I respect your opinion on that but this is MY story and I have the right to tell it if I want. I do respect and love my mother and she also did many things right. My objection is more to the political movement she was involved in and it's impact on her decisions about making a family. Which is what this video touches on...
I absolutely agree with you.
being married does not mean you are stable, or have a stable environment. but go off i guess
The world needs more men like this, a truly good person. I wish I could have met him myself.
There’s still men like this out there luckily 🤗
'something that at my age i appreciate, believe me'. intelligent funny and unrehearsed.
If we could all treat the world around us the same way this guy interprets his surroundings, we would all be much happier. Instead of outright dismissing the actions of those he sees, he simply explains the way he thinks in a genuine fashion. No convincing theres a good or bad guy, just his honest critiques. No one really carries this kind of charm around anymore.
Gonna be 27 this year, raised by old parents and grandparents. The way society is right now is terrifying me 😔
David Brunett 14 years old and I feel so ashamed of this so called "generation x".
I'm 53 and it definitely terrifies me!!
Hold fast to morality and that which seems old fashioned. Pray to God for truth.
@@hannahb.5954 You stick to what you know is right and let those who should be ashamed, feel ashamed.
@_jeff _ Welcome to the zoomer life. You'll be browsing /fascist/ in 5 years, lurk for 2 years before posting.
"The media is so much faster these days."
Twitter: "Hold my beer."
😭😭
I think this is todays problem. It values quantity over quality in pretty much everything including information.
Faster media doesn't mean better. How many premature obituaries do press companies have ready to publish on living celebrities the moment they die? How many posts do you see on Twitter that actually dive into the nuance of a situation as opposed to bashing the other side, in all affiliations? Easier transmission of information, lowering the bar of entry for broadcasting a point, only creates more garbage to sift through for substance. You can get more people's views on the subject, but how many of them are thought-out or even genuine?
Haha I was just thinking how surprised he'd be at how much faster things spread today
This ole dude is solid as a rock. Could lissen to him all day.
This guy gets it. Everything that's wrong, exists because it is right for someone with the ability to defend it.
Powerful people shapes the society, not for ever, but sometimes for too long.
Yep. My question: why aren't these types of men or women in CONGRESS??!!!! I guess we all know. It's All About the $$$$$$$$$.
I like this man. I’m going to forget everything he just talked about when I click off
You might, but your brain won't
I won’t. I already agree with this man
Facts
Me with every video I've ever seen
I can not remember the books I’ve read any more than the meals I’ve eaten. Even so, they have made me.
-Emerson Ralph Waldo
@@flyingsky1559 good quote
I like how he's honest and straightforward
Well you can at least tell that it's true that people 'hated' the other side less back then. It doesn't sound like he hates the other side so much as he is 'disappointed'. Verses thinking it's the end of the country or something.
@Ambrose Burnside you're fucking stupid. No one wants no borders.
@Ambrose Burnside you are proving my point. I really REALLY doubt 50% of the country "wants the country to end".
And wanting no wall doesn't equal wanting no borders. Mutually exclusive things. No one is talking about 'no borders' ridiculous.
Ambrose Burnside Don’t be silly. My brother is a Trotskyite (a real communist only uses the word for people who don’t know anything about the left, ie Americans), and he looks forward to the execution of the neoliberals who make up 99% of Democratic Party. If you think Bernie or his wing of the Democrats are left wing in much more than name...Bernie and his ilk might be allowed to go to re-education camps: he hates democracy as much as you probably do.
Ambrose Burnside Extremists are always the loudest, no matter which “side.” The extremists on “your side” want illegal and legal immigration stopped (unless they come from white countries) and for people of color who were born here to “fizzle out,” but most of us know those people don’t completely represent “your side.” 🤷♂️
@Ambrose Burnside there's nothing I can think to say. You call the other side communists..That is simply not true.
Majority of left wing folk in USA are capitalists. I am a capitalist. Much better than communism.
Melvin Baker was a reflected smart man. I could listen to this man for hours.
I attended school with some fools and drove cab with some geniuses to pay for it.
Worked with many, many cats like this man and I appreciate everything they taught me.
Guys like this remind me of the old adage: respect your elders. There's a great deal we should be learning from them, no matter how modern and progressive we see ourselves today.
I dunno about that, this guy is essentially shitting on who would be the boomers of today lol.
Regressive is more like it.
This is good journalism. No “ok boomer” here. Just asking what it was like, and a opinion
I'm not a fan of that phrase, and I would never use it, but be aware that "ok boomer" is a self defence mechanism by a youth against people who are not actually willing to talk WITH them, but will nonetheless still talk AT them with a sanctimonious attitude that is accompanied by an obvious unwillingness to gain a basic understanding of the issues they talk about. Now, being sanctimonious and grandiose is not a generational problem, it happens in every age group. But it is the baby boomers who hold most positions of influence in the USA, so they take the brunt, and the collateral.
This guy on the other hand? He at least sounds like he could actually listen, as well as talk. And that's why everyone in the comments likes him, even if they don't agree with his position. And that's what is to learn from this video for a fruitful debate with anyone, about anything.
This man was not a baby boomer
@@BlommaBaumbart the only time I’ve ever used “ok boomer” was after a long conversation I had with someone who was literally racist and they just weren’t getting it
@@true_matt sounds like a leftist
@@CausticSpace me or the other guy?
I was born in 1986, long after the sexual revolution started. My father gave me the talk when I was a kid, and then told me it would be better to wait until you're married to have sex. I took that advice to heart. To this day I refuse to have sex outside of wedlock. I'm not married, therefore, I'm not having sex. I could understand some of this man's concerns. I grew up in the late 1990s/early 2000s and I got to see the consequences of teen pregnancy up close. I saw kids who got pregnant in high school and either dropped out, or had to struggle with graduating from high school.
Why birth control or condoms exist though, but yeah
For me it's be more concerning for STD's
@@GalacticNovaOverlord Birth control existed in the 1950s, condoms anyway. Condoms were given to soldiers during WWII. STDs were a big concern. Not everyone had access to them though. Just the same, abstinence has been working for me thus far.
Glad I read this today. You are an inspiration to me in a discouraging period. Thank you, stranger.
The art of a great storyteller. No constantly saying. “Like” & “You know” throughout his conversation.
Well, he's a little too old for that. He could absolutely say "you know" before beginning his stories and I would be just fine
He is right, Boomers left nothing positive for the future. There was no legacy from that generation.
Yep
For all the complimentary comments, it’s amazing how few people seemed to have listened to him. Because he’s constantly contradicting himself.
The interview starts out talking about how the sexual revolution completely changed society, but later his opinion is that nothing in the ‘60s had any lasting effect.
He’s able to admit that many of the prominent figures associated with it became prominent *because* they were targeted by the government with trials and imprisonment, but then says nothing happened to them or they should have had it worse.
“I don’t trust politicians” - but he admits it may just be because we know more about their lives than we used to. And Rockefeller was rich but Roosevelt was pretty rich, too. He’s upset about government dependency but wishes government was doing big things to help people again like Social Security.
Again, back at the beginning - he jokes about not knowing what a prophylactic was but then his main worry is his daughter will have a baby out of wedlock.
He’s not stupid, to some degree he’s even self-aware, but his worldview, if boiled down to actual positions or policies, is just not coherent beyond feeling that things were once better than they are now and that the protest movement associated with the Sixties was bad.
Exactly!! People can’t seem to look past the affect of his way of speaking and demeanor, and realize it’s just an old man trying to justify why he doesn’t like something
Unfortunately you'll hardly ever find any intelligent discussion on youtube. By the looks of it, people commenting on this video are most likely either uneducated, too young to think for themselves or boomers buying in to the 'back in the old days when everything was better' narrative. It's truly is baffling how many people can watch this video and walk away thinking that this man made good arguments.
Don't get me wrong, he definitely wasn't stupid, probably even above average intelligence for someone born presumably in the 30's. It's just hard for people to understand the historical context in which he lived. It's no wonder that he stood by some deeply rooted values which had been the norm for many decades before the major change which gradually happened during the 60's, 70's and 80's.
The takeaway from this video should be to give some interesting insight of how a random elderly person saw the world and his thoughts regarding certain issues. David Hoffman has done a great job to upload these valuable pieces of historical information to youtube. But yeah, I can't help but cringe at most of these comments praising the old times and how everything is terrible nowadays, when in fact the standard of living for the average person has steadily increased over time.
That’s more coherence then most people these days lol
Also the 60s didn’t leave a legacy ie ANYTHING GOOD a legacy doesn’t just mean changing things for the worst
@@sengroagers1111 lol he’s not trying to justify it he DID justify it look at what the so called “sexual revolution” has brought nothing but chaos
Society has changed so much especially in the US it's hard to tell if we're going forwards or backwards..
We’re going backwards.
Forwards technologically backwards in terms of morals..
We're going forward. We're just having trouble keeping up with the evolution of our tech. This will change. We just have to find a different way to approach modern issues and let go of old ways that won't serve us anymore. The only people who think we're going backwards are the ones who want to go back in time.
@@asdf1991asdf I can see where you're coming from. However, I'm not sure if you can see what things are becoming.
I am a feminist, but I've dealt with so many toxic feminists and toxic people in general. These things are changing even in the feminist community, and toxic people are getting called out in all places.
Back in the 90s, it was the information age. But we've actually left the age almost 10 years ago. We gained too much information. We are currently in what's known as the Survailence Age. Racism, sexism, cissexism, toxic feminism, toxic religion, and superficial behavior isn't actually getting worse.. it's getting filmed. It's being recorded and everyone's being watched.
This only sounds like a bad thing until we learn to use it to support each other instead of to hurt each other. And as soon as mankind really gets into the Blockchain age, these things will change for the better. ^^
@@layceelay5382 I dont think you truly realize what "multiculturalism" will mean for the future of mankind (AKA the west/ white nations).
If you want everywhere to be subsaharan Africa, then multiculturalism will make it so. If you want Chinese global domination, that shall do it too.
Where is Europe and the USA in this future picture? It won't exist in any way after the white race is destroyed. Along with this race, so goes the greatest cultures and nations to ever bless this rotten rock.
He is amazingly articulate and intelligent. Modern high-end professionals - my peers in tech, for instance - don't hold a candle to this man.
"When the laws are not clear..." . This man just evoked ancient philosophy organically.
I'm in my early 20s and I agree with this man.
Same
based
This guy has good sense, and can articulate it.
wow this man is a treasure. So soothing to listen to!
I think this man did get it. We need more families.
But we also need less people.
@@aguyontheinternet8436 less people like you, yes. I agree.
We don't have to see eye to eye for me to respect and admire this dude.
Thanks for the upload! Cool channel!
What he said about needing to diversify Congress was so incredibly profound given just how valid his point would remain to this day.
This man is so absolutely fascinating to listen to. This is the second interview with him that I watched. I could listen to him all day. He seems to capture what a lot of people were thinking of things but just didn't say it. It's like American common sense from that time.
This is much like what Studs Terkel did post depression/WW2. Those are truly eye opening recordings. I highly recommend them to anyone who likes this.
I’m 18 and I agree with him. I’m not religious, I never was part of any large religious group being family or school but I still find it immoral and we end up with too many fatherless people who develop mental health issues such as anxiety, depression, drug abuse, narcissistic personality disorder and so on. Really sad to see. And most issues as a country can be linked back to sex before wedlock
lmao im just waitng for that one guy to go "well its not impossible to have those things from a marriage" or even better the " if you think everybody was happy and perfect in marraiges, then i have something to tell you..." or any variation of that, which is basically to come up with a claim of something that you never said or meant and then start arguing based of it.
@@wizardmongol4868 better yet those people have had horrible lives and are coping by saying their life is perfectly fine and good, everyone who was raised without a mother and father in the same household thinks their life is perfectly fine.
@@worlore1651 yeah ive noticed that as well, the difference isnt realised until some introspection and comparsions often with examples etc. for most people who were fatherless atleast.
12:10
"and I might be a little jealous cause I don't have that much hair"
This is how i know this man is worth listening to, he is self aware enough to understand that possibly some of his contempt for the younger generations fashion choices may come from jealousy. I have not met many elderly people that are this eloquent and still good conversationalist. Idk maybe I just need to talk to more of em
I enjoyed both interviews with Mr. Baker. He's a very wise man.
these interviews are just so beautiful. Obviously I don't have almost any of the same values and beliefs as this man, but it works so well as a character study. He's just so genuine and honest, he bares his soul so clearly. It's magnificent
Damn my condolences. If you don't have the values that guys like him have you are destined for a real rough ride in life.
If you listen closely you realize that this guy is a true critical thinker.
This man speaks the truth
I think we are waking up to the realization that family is the answer we have been searching for. I hope the society continues to wake up.
I'm not sure who this good man is but I can listen this gentleman all day,God bless...