The biggest thing I missed watching this and was later pointed out to me in a TH-cam breakdown of this movie was that when palpatine told Anakin to kill Dooku Ani and said he shouldn’t because it wasn’t the Jedi way and Palpatine says he’s too dangerous to be kept alive. When mace Windu is standing over Palpatine and Anakin tells him he can’t be killed, mace Windu says he’s too dangerous to be kept alive. In that moment Anakin convinced himself there’s zero difference between the Jedi and Sith and that’s what solidified his turn
Yeah, but IIRC Mace Windu was one of those Jedi who played fast and loose with the darkside without allowing it to corrupt him, so thats one on Mace, not on Jedi in general.
@@cuffzter Agreed. This is why Yoda didn't go for the surprise kill when he could, because it wasn't the Jedi way. And Mace Windu is one of those that helped in the corruption. This is when the saying "if everyone lived by eye for an eye, then the whole world will be blind" is shown perfectly.
@@bemasaberwyn55 I agree. When I first heard of Cinema Wins, I expected some cheap knock-off of Cinema Sins narrated by some christian camp counselor or something. But the guy's astute observations and infectious optimism kind of won me over.
@Meme Frog Bad Key word "loved." I've heard they did the scene two ways, one with "loved" and one with "love." They chose to the one with "loved" in the end.
@Meme Frog Bad Darth Anakin would have done the same or worse. He killed younglings and choked Padme. He unfortunately became a being who deserved to burn... He didn't use wisdom he used anxious arrogance and paid the price.
Can we appreciate the fact that Hayden Christensen and Ewan McGregor actually did the fight scene together. No stuntmen and they did it at full speed because they learned the choreography perfectly.
Also, Shad from the channel Shadversity made a video almost the length of the movie analyzing the fight, and he said that is one of the most realistic fights ever made.
While it IS true that they were the fighters - no stuntmen - I hate having to reveal that some frames were cut here and there to make some of their moves appear faster. The most famous example is the strike that occurs in the hallway just after Anakin spins his lightsaber behind his back. Still badass though.
One of my favorite little easter eggs at 12:36 when Obi-wan says "Goodbye, old friend". That is the last time the two of them see each other before Anakin turns to the dark side. Obi is standing in the light, and Anakin is standing in shadow. That line just hits harder when you realize that he is actually saying goodbye to his best friend/brother without really knowing it.
Also at 20:38 when he says 'R2 stay with the ship.' are his last words to R2-D2 and that's teh reason why R2 always tries to reach his master in the episodes IV to VI. 😉
it makes harder when you think about it. this is the last time obi-wan would ever see anakin skywalker again in life. the next time he sees him, he isn't his brother anymore. he's darth vader. so when he said "good-bye, old friend", he's truly bidding farewell to his best friend.
I like how they mention in the comics how the kyber crystals are sentient. In order for a sith to make the kyber crystals red they have pour their anger and hate into them.
@@gmfb521 they start bleeding, but sith are also known for using synthetic crystals, because they dont really care, but that was mostly done in the old republic before the rule of two.
@@johnhannon4074 "Im no jedi" -ahsoka But yes she did purify 2 crystals from inquisitor blades. Ahsoka is what the jedi should have been, but the jedi councils arrogance blinded them
@@remus907 that was my point. She was more jedi than any jedi. She left because she realized what she was, didn't fit with the jedi council, but she was exactly what a jedi should be, which is further proof it any was needed that the council was trash.
My son plays Binary sunsets or some Know it as the force theme , on his Barisax. So beautiful. And my other son plays the throne room and imperial March on his baritone!
Also! A note: General Grevious doesn't have a red lightsaber because he isnt a sith. He's technically a cyborg warrior. What does he hunt? Jedi. The lightsabers he has are heavily implied to be stolen off of the dead jedi he killed.
Oh yeah. Not even implied. He says YOUR light sabers (to anakin and kenobi) will make a fine ADDITION to my collection. He keeps them as trophies. It’s pretty badass… I still wish they didn’t make him so weirdly sick and weak
It was actually PERFECT writing, considering just how uneducated, unrefined, and naive the character of Anakin is. He's an archetype for when power, influence, appeal, strength, courage and emotional passion... all get placed into the WRONG type of human being: into a 'man child'. This may or may not hold ironic relevance regarding 2016-2020. 🙄
@@Novastar.SaberCombat yeah it's actually true, i think people just simply wanted to see a realistic mature romantic relationship between the two completely ignoring Anakin's character
@@Novastar.SaberCombat There are ways to make a really strong dialogue for Anakin’s character without having to pull out stuff that makes it seem like he’s reciting Shakespeare. He’s emotionally stunted yes and often very conflicted about his emotions and while Hayden did show us this throughout this movie and did a damn good job, it still doesn’t save how awful the script was. It’s a very well known fact that George does not know how to write a realistic conversation between two people. Most of the things that Anakin says is something I would read in a book, not actually see said out loud during a conversation. All in all, anakin’s a very well thought out character. Just poorly written in terms of the script
That line has always puzzled me. In my opinion anakin was clearly the better duelist between him and obiwan. His arrogance is what cost him the fight. Why sidious thought he was in danger at that point in time doesn’t make sense to me? Maybe because the fight was going on longer than he expected
Christopher Lee's acting is so fucking good. When Dooku looks at Palpatine ordering Anakin to kill him, the look of shock and betrayal on his face says everything.
There's actually so many intricate things to unpack when it comes to Anakin's downfall. This was 13 years of high expectations, repressed emotions, untreated trauma, adult manipulation, several notable losses, extreme anxiety, and overall disillusionment with Jedi, all culminating on the shoulders of one mentally ill man. To the point where that man finally breaks and loses his mind. Anakin was a good man dealt a really shit hand. By the end of it all, he was desperately trying to justify what he'd done until that final shred of humanity was literally burned off of him. At that point, all he was left with was a torture chamber that kept him alive, and the man that might as well have put him there. Sad shit man...
It actually makes sense why Anakin would desperately want power and attachments. He was born a slave with no liberty over his own life. Of course he'd cling desperately to whatever blessings and comforts he could enjoy. And while yes, Lucas is notoriously bad at dialogue, it also makes sense why he'd be so awkward in a relationship, considering he grew up on a planet filled with some of Galaxy's nastiest characters, and the Jedi prohibited such behavior overall. Then there's Palpatine... pretending to be the father figure Anakin needed all to take advantage of all of Anakin's vulnerabilities.
Edit: Cassie don't view the replies to my comment for the sake of spoilers :) It's up to you, but the stand alone Star Wars Story "Rogue One" fits in nicely as the next movie to watch, before the sequel trilogy. It's set between episodes 3 and 4. Oh and it's actually good!
Cassie- "Don't read this- spoilers".... I just don't understand why there are so many people who ship this movie. With EVERYONE dying at the end- how could they possibly have a storyline on the planet? No one knows what happened - which makes it pure fictional fiction. Kinda like " The Perfect Storm" .. 2hr movie on a boat where they all die... so how could we possibly know what happened at sea. Same applies here. I did not find any characters in Rogue One to be " memorable" either- except the droid.
"Shouldn't they be red?" The lightsabers aren't red because Gen. Grievous had kept them as trophies of the Jedi he has defeated in battle. Watch the animated 2003 _'Clone Wars'_ miniseries and the animated 2008+ _'Clone Wars'_ series, which are set between the events of Episode II and this film to learn more about General Grievous.
@KarSoban Agreed regarding the length of the two sets of animated _'Clone Wars'_ which is why I cited both. Many people forget about the earlier one but that is where we see General G. start his collection. As you say, that may be enough for her.
@@PlumbPitiful Unless of course, you stick with the original reason that Sith lightsabers are red: their crystals are synthetic. The Sith viewing their ability to create what they desire via a crucible & forge superior to being weak & submitting to the guidance of the Force to find a natural crystal. Then General G. not bring a Force User just means he wouldn't be using the Sith process.
@@pauld6967 Ah, a man of taste, I see. And therein lie the two schools of thought: - The original canon, that the color of a lightsaber is due directly to the color of the crystal that focuses the beam i.e. a blue crystal makes a blue blade, and a purple one makes Samuel L. Jackson look cool lol - Disney's new canon, where lightsabers are like mood rings and the color reflects some special aspect of your personality. Sith's lightsabers are red, now, because they have to corrupt the crystal and make it "bleed". I greatly prefer the original canon, but to each his own. I'm not a fan of the sequels, but I don't blame or hate on people who like them - hell, I still love the 80's Ewok movies lol
Something you need to understand about the dark side, is that it warps your mind. Unreasonable things suddenly seem reasonable. It can grant you incredible powers, but basically at the cost of your soul. It's a devil's bargain. Anakin's opinions flipped around so fast and he started rationalizing everything because the dark side fosters, encourages and nurtures all the worst impulses within you and brings them to the front. You know how when you get really angry or upset and you just don't see straight until you calm down? The dark side is like having that on 100% of the time with almost no way out. You can relinquish the dark side, as we saw Vader do at the end of Episode 6, but it's an act of incredible will, like quitting a powerful drug cold turkey--you have to first recognize it's a problem, and the dark side usually prevents you from doing so.
I’ll disagree and say that I always think Anakin’s rapid mind shift just came way too fast. I definitely agree with him killing Windu to save Palpatine’s life and joining the dark side but he turns on the Jedi and his own morality within mere seconds. That is something I do wish had been drawn out a bit more, perhaps show a passage of time with him experimenting in the dark side. Then show the Jedi genocide. Or better yet, rather than have anakin help kill the Jedi, palpatine could force him to sit and watch his comrades be slaughtered helplessly by the clones, at which point he has nothing to live for and embraces the dark side 100%. Idk, just my opinions, my opinions on the prequels change from time to time, but my one constant factor is that this movie will always be ten times better than the sequels.
@@thatperformer3879 he’s sort of been experimenting with the Dark Side all throughout The Clone Wars. Massacring an entire village of Sand People for killing his mother, Stabbing a bomber threatening to blow up the ship in the back, force choking a prisoner to save his apprentice, crushing a communicator at the mere mention of slavers, harassing and harming someone who had feelings for his wife, executing Dooku after years of war at Palpatine’s request, before finally assisting in Windu’s murder to save his wife and unborn children. Anakin always has a reason, but he slowly slid into evil until he forgot why he wanted the power, only that he wanted power.
The same goes for the light side. No one would ever claim, for example, that the inquisition was evil. Oh no. They had the most holy of holy objectives in mind. The Jedi are also a totalitarian system, they just approach it from another angle. Sith: We need fights so that the strongest can survive and advance. Jedi: We will prevent anyone from fighting and force them into a peace situation because we like harmony and actually don't mind corruption if it serves our purpose of harmonic togetherness.
Hayden actually acted Anakin about ad perfectly as you could ask. He did as good as one could with the corny lines, but he also absolutely nailed a young conflicted person. Don’t forget that he was a slave and basically raised to not show emotion too.
@@xgormo9805 nope, what im saying is what people say. In fact the hate towards Christensen has only started to change a few years ago. And it was only about 5 days ago someone did a thing about why Hayden was seen as a bad actor when playing a good guy, but found redemption when playing a sith lord. There's a kind of new appreciation for Christensen today when you look online. And i have to agree with these youtubers. He does become more worth watching when turning bad.
@@ebbhead20 Better as a sith sure, but he played what a Jedi really should have been well. And his character wad portrayed perfectly, well, about as perfect as you can get. People who dislike his character more often than not don’t actually understand his character at all
@@xgormo9805 I also liked Hayden's performance, with the obvious drawbacks of the dialogue. But I don't know how you come to the conclusion that he was the perfect Jedi. You can argue that the Jedi and itis philosophies failed him, which is a factor that led to his fall to the darkside, but he was very imperfect as a Jedi. He ignored orders, let his feelings cloud his judgement, and his imperfection as a Jedi is precisely what led Sidious to being able to manipulate him.
Something to remember, Anakin's been manipulated by Palpatine since he was 9 years old, to the point he viewed Palpatine as a father who was the only one who truly understood him. So after 15 years of influence, he was much more willing to do what Palpatine wanted. What's more is that the moment Mace Windu said "He's too dangerous to be kept alive", that told Anakin the Jedi were exactly like the Sith since Palpatine said the same thing right before pushing Anakin to kill Dooku.
This is particularly important. He couldn't see the moral difference between the Jedi and Sith Teachings, so why should he not choose the side that can save his wife and children? Especially after a decade of feeling stifled and scolded by the other side.
That's why the score for the fight with Darth Maul in the Phantom Menace was called Duel of the Fates - they were fighting over the fate of young Anakin. If Qui Gon Jinn had survived, then he would have trained Anakin and been the father figure he needed and would not have turned to the Dark Side. Vader's redemption in Return of the Jedi was he realised he would have to be the father to Luke he never had.
The Jedi are painted as the "good guys" in the films but if you really think about it they are not the moral pacifists they are portrayed as. If you look at it from Anakins point of view he was treated as an outsider from the beginning, they never truly embraced him even after all he went through during the Clone Wars, after all the friends he lost and the lives he saved. Yet they still did not trust him. For example when Mace Windu says "I don't trust him." and when Anakin confides to Padme that he felt "lost". Lets not forget the Jedi essentially separated him from his mother then left her chained in slavery and then forbid him from saving her because apparently it wasn't worth the hassle and would be against their dogmatic tenants. "Forbid all human attachment or be separated from all you know." Doesn't seem very moral. In his eyes they betrayed him after all he sacrificed for the order. His love for his wife was not something he was going to "train himself to let go" of. The Jedi essentially brought it on themselves and many of them in fact saw it coming. They went from peace keepers to warmongers in their own right. The Jedi had to be defeated. His relationship with Sidious was a relationship of necessity nothing more. Anakin/Vader hated and despised Sidious but ultimately he could do nothing about it and he had nothing left after becoming Vader, nothing but his hate. In the end he lost everything and was used as a tool by both sides. To me he is the true Hero of Star Wars, heroes are flawed, they stray between the light and the dark but ultimately rise to the occasion.
@@rbrtck They weren't evil but they caused a lot of suffering due to their own actions and idealogy, whether intentional or not it makes no difference. There were many planet's and peoples who did not agree with the Republic or the Jedi. Many of them willingly sided with the Empire after the Republics fall. Many were on the side of the Separatists during the War. Think of how many innocent people died as a result of the Jedi's actions, especially after the formation of the Empire. Liberators to some and terrorists to others, point being it's not black or white either way. There is no denying the Jedi were pretty cruel when it came to children. The manipulation and warping of the minds, the prohibition on normal human emotions and connections between others, which ironically contributed towards their downfall at the hands of Vader. Qui-gon and Ahsoka for example saw the flaws in what the Jedi order had become and the bloated corrupt machine of the Republic. Sidious wanted the younglings destroyed so they would not grow to become a threat. Anakin in the position he was in and given the orders to destroy the Jedi in the temple reasoned that it was a mercy to strike them down himself quickly rather than leave them alive to suffer a worse fate. And he wasn't entirely wrong considering Sidious is well known for corrupting Jedi and turning them into tortured pawns to do his bidding, the very same thing he did to Anakin. Anakin certainly did not get pleasure from it like Sidious most certainly did. So this idea that the Jedi are the good guys and the Sith are the ultimate evil just isn't true. They are two sides of the same coin. Sure you can argue some individuals were truly evil like Sidious but then there are others like Grevious, given not a force wielder but his origins and motivation was far from evil. He was used by Palpatine in the same way as Anakin. The same way the Jedi used Anakin to fight their war and spy for them. I suppose it is more accurate to say the Jedi council was at fault and brought on it's own demise rather than every single Jedi the same way Sidious was on the other end.
You should really watch Rogue One next. It falls between this and Episode IV: A New Hope and ties into Episode IV so well. Also, it's by far the best Star Wars movie of the Disney era.
When the Emperor calls Anakin 'Lord Vader' and you say "Stop calling him that". I love how you get so invested in the story, it's why I keep watching you 🥰
Cassie's reaction to this movie may be the best I've seen. Her raw emotion and attachment to this story was spot on how a new fan should take this movie. She's probably my favorite reactor right now and I'm subscribed to a bunch of them!!! NEXT STOP... ROGUE ONE!!!
She is honestly my favourite Star Wars reactionist on TH-cam. She is so curious to everything in the movies, i feel like she wants to grasp every small detail from the story, unlike so man reaction youtubers who talk the whole time...
Definitely ditch the sequels and Solo, Rogue One is the one true follow-up. The only reactor on a par with Cassie is Dasha of Russia, she gets equally attached to the story and characters.
Just hearing "the good guys are always supposed to triumph over evil" makes me remember r why I love this movie so much. Because it was the rare time we get to see the bad guys actually be threatening and win
What killed me about that moment is that even though he screams that, both before and after there is such great pain in his eyes, and not all of it from his new injuries. There's emotional pain, especially when Obi Wan makes such heartfelt lamentation about the whole thing. I feel like in those moments Anakin truly knew that he had made a huge mistake, but he was too far in it to stop. Even after all the poison in his mind about jedi, he did not hate Obi Wan.
Before that, you could plainly see that the Dark Side had already got its hooks fully into him when he said to his wife "I will not let you die the same way as my mother". As Yoda said, fear of loss leads to the dark side… and Anakin's fear of losing Padme just maxed out.
@@Metamorfeus Well he did let his mother die. All he had to do was bring her to Coruscant. The Jedi appaer to be extremely rich, and it would have been humane and prevented the whole movie. Why didn't they? "So the movie could happen."
So the psychology of Anakin/Vader is one of my favorite parts of Star Wars. Anakin had MAJOR abandonment issues after being taken from his mother at a young age, losing Qui-Gon, and watching his mother die. All Anakin wanted was to loved. He felt oppressed by the Jedi for refusing him a place on the council, and the higher ups had issues with him being there (Yoda said he was too old, Windu didn't like his arrogance or the prophecy). He was also raised by Obi-Wan, who was barely an adult when he had to play the role of both a father and a teacher to young Anakin. He is constantly called young and an apprentice by other Jedi, and is under constant pressure to be a great Jedi. However, he doesn't really want that. He wants his mother's love, and he latches onto Padme as a surrogate due to her presence in his childhood and her nature. Padme is a very loving and maternal person, and it's exactly what he sees in her. The fear of going through the pain of losing his mother again is something he will not go through again, and if that means killing the people who stifled him, took him away from his mother (whom they did nothing to save), and tried to kill the one person who made him feel powerful and in control of his life, so be it. Anakin is blinded by the promises of Palpatine, and starts to see the Dark Side as a new path he can take towards power and greatness. Vader's actions between the trilogies is interesting. In the comics, he shows no regard or respect for anyone besides the Emperor, and starts fights with imperial officers just to get a fight. He is a man with nothing left to lose, and it shows. After finding out that Padme's child survived, he suddenly has hope again. Luke isn't just an apprentice to him, it's his chance at having a family again. It also serves to distance himself further from the Jedi, who even after death denied him a family again. Finding out about Leia as his daughter would be the same thing again. It's when he sees Luke being tortured by the Emperor that Vader finally realizes what happened to him. Luke is all that remains of Padme, and he won't lose her again. So he kills the man who trained him and saved him to save his wife's legacy. His final wish is to see his face one last time with his own eyes, and to die in peace, because he doesn't feel worthy of living anymore. He had done so much wrong in his life, and knew the New Republic would not allow him to live anyways, so better to die looking upon his son.
They really did make him a noob. Which is a crying shame, when you realize how badass his first ever appearance in Clone Wars (the 2D short series) was
@@jordinagel1184 Even though he was Nerfed in the Filoni Series, Grievous was still the Most Deadly Jedi Hunter in the Galaxy. Still his first Appearance gives me Shivers to this day.
@@jordinagel1184 tbh everyone’s power level got wanked super hard in that series to the point where it was just rule of cool above anything else And honestly grievous losing is really more of a credit to how powerful Obi wan is
"he was deceived by a lie...." That shows that Obi Wan at least "understands" what happened to Anakin. That's good. he doesn't just suddenly consider him damaged and evil.
In fairness to Anakin, he was lied to by a lot of people including the Jedi and Obi Wan specifically. Unfortunately the movies don't tell the whole story and make his turn to the dark side so quick and easy.
@@crankfastle8138 But the very important difference if that Obi Wan and the Jedi do not believe that THEY were "lying" to Anakin. It all goes back to the very fundamental flaw of the Jedi training. THEY are ALWAYS right because they are the Jedi. Thyey're so arrogant in their own superiority that Dokuu slipped right by them AND a Sith lord was under their noses for decades before they knew anything. They got complacent and it got them killed.
@@crankfastle8138 Agreed. Star Wars fans would be wise to read the _Revenge of the Sith_ novelization, which I consider the most important single Star Wars volume, that is, for those seeking a greater insight into George Lucas' vision for the Saga. The film alone portrays merely the basics, making some facets of the story and characters more difficult to fully grasp.
@@crankfastle8138 The Clone Wars series, seems to help fill in the blanks. And it extends Anakin's journey. So I guess watching the movies seem like Anakin switched sides too fast. But watching The Clone Wars in between makes the journey seem longer and more detailed.
@@CT2507 phantom menace came out in 1999. So unless years before writing the script he predicted 9/11 then I've already thought about it and I'm right. Simple search could have saved yourself.
There is an animated series called The Clone Wars that tells the story of how Anakin becomes evil more in detail. The most interesting thing about The Clone Wars however, is that it makes you wonder if the Jedi really are the good guys or not. There is a TH-cam video called "How Liberty Dies: The Politics of Star Wars" that is really worth checking out.
they are the good guys in theory, but they had to do some bad things to return to doing good. In war there are no good guys, just more or less evil ones. This is what makes it much easier for Palpatine to convince both Anakin and the Republic the Jedi are evil.
To this day, Vader's birth and first breath is still the most intense cinema moment I've ever experienced. A 800 places cinema was SILENT AS A CEMETARY until the iconic breathing. And everyone tensed and their seats, getting chills. I heard a general whispering like 'and so Anakin Skywalker really became Darth Vader'
@@ChrisRowe Yup, same for me when I saw it at the theater. I never particularly loved Star Wars, but even I was amazed at how much damage the prequels did, especially to Vader. Anakin was so badly written and the transformation to Vader so dumb and forced, I couldn't help but laugh out loud at this scene.
Fun fact: in the "making of..." special features, they said that the final fight between Anakin and Obi- wan was filmed without any timing or frame rate shenanigans: "they trained that hard, and they *are* that fast." Great scene of two sword masters going all-out balls-to-the-wall full tilt against each other.
Yeah but it was dumb because if you even get close to a little bit of lava your hair will singe right off and you'll start to get burned severely. If you're right above a lava flow, you're going to be on fire. It's many times hotter than an oven.
Cassie... your reaction to this was very spot on ... Now you must see Rogue One... it simply bridges the gap in a great way, between episodes 3 and 4...
Imagine, i watched the movies for the first time during Covid without knowing ANYTHING about Star Wars, only knew that Vader was the vilain in the old movies, but nothing else (not even that there was a Luke + Leia Skywalkers). The fact here is that instead of starting with episode IV, i decided to watch them in chronological order, therefore i started with the Phantom Menace.... I could not believe what i was watching when i got to The Revenge of the Sith, i was loving Anakin´s evolution as a Jedi, and thought he was going to be the one fighting Vader in Episodes IV-VI... trust me, it took me weeks to recover from this movie, but still love to recall how i surprised i was when watching it....
It's pretty obvious, but not knowing absolutely nothing about a movie makes it extremely (seriously, extremely) better. I watched the 9 movies like 3 weeks ago and it was good but i knew pretty much every key plot point (but not the big picture and the general plot).
The missing piece that's tripping you up from understanding Anakin after he becomes Vader, when you're like "but he knows this isn't true," is that the dark side is inherently corrupting. Once you let it in, it changes you and twists you. Once he started using the dark side, you see how quickly he went from "save Padme" to "rule the galaxy." That's why.
Yeah the darkside is like an drug, their were lots of hints about this in Ep 2, where Anakin expresses that he doesn't think the senate works, and that something like an democratic dictatorship would be better for the galaxy. It's just that when he started using the darkside more these feelings about a dictatorship, his mistreatment of the Jedi, and his cravings of power that he's been trying to resist increase by 5.
He makes the same offer to Luke in ESB. "Join me and together we can rule the galaxy as father and son." I think deep down he knew exactly what kind of person Palpatine was, but he didn't believe he could defeat him on his own.
@@skywalkerorder2170 What's interesting about that is Palpatine has been grooming him throughout that period. I wonder how much those authoritarian sympathies back then were original thoughts or evidence of Palpatine's poison dripping in his ear.
I think maybe , if Padme had agreed to stay with Anakin, the Darth Vader side of him may have already been cooking up a plan to overthrow Sidious, and acts become Supreme Chancellor, and perhaps he and Padme WOULD have restored the democratic Republic ....just a thought . All Sith Lords are betrayed by their apprentices eventually...it's kind of a Sith rule
I just finished watching the first six reaction videos. Watching the journey from “meh, they are just pew pew movies” to the passionate emotional investment by the end was spectacular. It made my heart smile watching someone fall in love with this universe.
i love how christopher lee is such a good actor there was no cgi for his dismemberment, he's just that good, he got up and walked away after, fully formed
One of Vader's most emotional moments was in the comics after the first death star was destroyed. Vader ordered Boba Fett to hunt down and kill the pilot who destroyed the death star, (Luke Skywalker). Boba Fett failed but returned to Vader with a name... Skywalker. Anakin realized not only did Padme give birth but that Sidious misled him about padme's death.
@@jollycrossbones663 he did. Padme clearly wasnt dead. Sidius lied to Vader, like he had been lying to him the whole time. Just look at this expression after Vader starts losing it. He's feeding his anger. If you think about it, why would Padme give up if she is about to have children? it makes no sense ("she's perfectly fine") as the droid says. My theory is Palpatine was killing her.
10:36 "Nothing. Again. He's like a girl." I AM DECEASED. This is why I love watching reaction videos. I've seen this stuff so many times (often a long time ago), I forgot what happened the first time I watched it, and it's fun to see someone discover the joy/horror of it
Anakin: I saw your laser sword. Only a Jedi carries that weapon. Qui-Gon: Perhaps I killed a Jedi and took it from him. Anakin: I don't think so. _No one_ can kill a Jedi. Qui-Gon and everyone else: ...I wish that were so.
You know whats also very good to bringing you back to an earlier time in your life with this franchise? I went to Disney for the first time this last February. And I have to admit, the Star Wars area really captured the flavor of the movies and made you feel as if you were actually in that world.
It's not the love what brings Anakin Anakin to the darkside. It's the lack of it. Jedis hate or fear him. Windu shows him all the disrespect that he can every time he has a moment for it. They didn't let him save his mother The only jedi who cared for him is dead And the only thing he has left is Padme who is gonna die if he doesn't do something. With all this is easy to bring you to the other side.
Great reaction. Took me watching a few of your videos to appreciate what makes your reaction videos so great.... You're not narrating the movie, you're narrating the emotions. This is what a "reaction" video is supposed to be.
The novel version of this movie is extremely well written. I mean, just look at this: "And you rage and scream and reach through the Force to crush the shadow who has destroyed you, but you are so far less now than what you were, you are more than half machine, you are like a painter gone blind, a composer gone deaf, you can remember where the power was but the power you can touch is only a memory, and so with all your world-destroying fury it is only droids around you that implode, and equipment, and the table on which you were strapped shatters, and in the end, you cannot touch the shadow. In the end, you do not even want to. In the end, the shadow is all you have left. Because the shadow understands you, the shadow forgives you, the shadow gathers you unto itself-And within your furnace heart, you burn in your own flame."
I can't help but feel you missed the rawest line. "You killed her, finally when you could have saved her, when you could have gone away with her, when you could have been thinking about her, you were only thinking about yourself... it is in this blazing moment that you finally understand the trap of the dark side, the final cruelty of the Sith - because now your self is all you will ever have.
I tear up every time I see the opening scene and think of the prologue: "Though this is the end of the age of heroes, it has saved the best for last". I love Stover's writing so much. As an aside, I HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY reccomend Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor (also by Stover) which is in my opinion a highly superior rendition of Luke Skywalker dealing with darkness in the aftermath of the originalt trilogy (far better than what the sequels gave us). I cried reading that book.
My favorite video reaction in youtube, of a great movie, the effect of a well made masterpiece reflected in that intense emotions, thanks for sharing it with us. Hoping to see a lot more. Congrats
I'm so proud honestly. Look how far she's come: from knowing nothing about Star Wars to guessing plot points fans have been pondering over for years. So proud 🥲
This movie is so much sadder when you've watched the clone wars series and it shows how much obi wan and Anakin have been through together. Also how good Anakin was and even had an apprentice and his bond and separation from his apprentice which also contributed to his progression to the dark side.
I think Anakin and Asoka had a thing going on in Clone Wars. And Padme amidala and Obiwan also spent a lot of time off planet . Conspiracy theory: what if : Luke and Leia were Obiwan kids? OOOOOHHHhhhhh😂
Anakin trusts Palpatine because he has been mentoring him since childhood, supporting him, instilling the idea in his head that he is the best Jedi /chosen one and because of this, pride gradually manifested in him...(During the Clone Wars, Anakin also received the rank of general, not to mention the fact that he became a master and got himself a student, I personally do not know whether he got it only because of his merits and military exploits or the chancellor also helped there and was involved...Just by the standards of the Jedi is a very young age, mmm 25 years?!) Palpatin replaced his father, Obi-wan his brother (interestingly, Anakin thought he was his father, and Obi, on the contrary, perceived him as a brother) And Anakin did not switch to the dark side "in 10 minutes" and "just like this" his doubts about the code and the methods of the order grew over the years (as did Qui Gon, Dooku, Saifo Dias, among others) and the turning point in his life and in his psyche was also the expulsion of his padawan Ahsoka (see the animated series Clone Wars ...)
@@MeanLaQueefa 100% They would have found a common language considering that both doubted the methods of the Jedi (although something worse could have happened and perhaps Qui Gon would have become a Sith ...)
“I wanted love to save them all.” Your optimism is so refreshing and cheering, even as we get to watch you growing to appreciate more complex and diverse types of stories. I think that’s what sets you ahead of other reactors. Don’t ever change! ❤️
You really have the nerve to tell her "you growing to appreciate more complex and diverse types of stories". WTF... I hope that was nice trolling. If you think this wooden empty nonsensical schlock by committee with a contempt for children is a "complex and diverse type of story" (what does diverse mean?) then - please- never watch Tele-Tubbies. It will fry your brain. Just a friendly warning. Have a great day.
@@j.m.w.5064 Really? These movies have been loved by millions, maybe billions, over decades!?!? This franchise has been influenced by movies that have also been highly praised; Thus, In turn, so has Star Wars. Plus, Darth Vader is known as one of the best cinematic villains EVER! Wait, if you feel that way...then why the hell are you even in a comment section for a reaction to a movie in a series you feel is, "wooden, empty & nonsensical schlock by committee with a contempt for children"? I hope that was nice trolling; have a great day!
@@shugaroony You say, explicitly contradicting the story itself as George Lucas wrote and intended. You explicitly contradict reality as well. If there is no redemption for people such as Anakin, there is no redemption for anyone, because everyone has their own demons and sins they must overcome, and some need far more help and loving-kindness to do so than others. The only people who are beyond redemption as those who refuse to be helped and healed.
Sad fact: Anakin was awake for most of his operation. Every needle, every cut, every skin removed and flesh he felt it all. The Dark side feeds on pain.
I feel like none of that is in any of the movies. Are you reading novels and comics and assuming they're canon? Because they're explicitly NOT canon, there was an announcement and everything. From now on, if it isn't in the 9 films or any of the recent Disney stuff, it doesn't count.
@@markbartoszek8585 because obi wans story between episode 3 and 4 has never been told in detail. I do agree they are clutching at straws but that’s the fault of rian Johnson and episode 8. But obiwans story is valid in my opinion. There’s a big gap there that isn’t told
“He’s probably planting these dreams in him!” It’s so funny you say this, because the irony of his dreams, is that if Anakin simply ignored those dreams he had, Padme never would’ve died, Republic wouldn’t have fallen to the extent it did. By acting on his nightmares, Anakin essentially brought that future into existence
Palpatine/Sidious actually was manipulating Anakins mind, giving him little pushes to confuse him and make him go down the path of the dark side. Since Sidious created Anakin (according to literature), he was able to control everything around him and even sent the Jedi to find him (unknowingly)
Its called a Causality Loop: To get/change a result you think is coming you decide to do something to avoid or encourage it, potentially creating the problem in the first place. Not guaranteed but likely, as intervention no matter the original motive rarely goes 100% as planned. A leads to B leads to C leads to A.
You must realize that yes, Palpatine manipulated Anakin, but more importantly he manipulated the Jedi. He used them against themselves. And by doing so Anakin was never really accepted or trusted by them, which is why he could believe the lie. Remember, from the beginning they didn't want him, and the person he respected was giving him everything he wanted. A cautionary tale for our real lives.
Cassie: noticed how the ship that flies Padme to Mustafar to convince Anakin, is shaped like an angel? Well, the very first line between them in episode 1 was : "are you an angel?". She is indeed the angel who travels to hell just to try to bring him back.
I think the reason other jedis got defeated was because they weren't trained against quadruple wielders. Obi Wan is experienced and he focussed on reducing the hands immediately
"While using the sabers taken from the countless Jedi he killed with his bear droid hands." We never see Grievious take down any Jedi in the movies. We only see his his robot henchmen handing him Anakin’s and Obi Wan’s lightsabers. For all we know his lackeys have done the dirty work every time.
Anakin: "I think chancellor Palpatine is a Sith Lord." Mace Windu: "A Sith Lord? We must move quickly if the Jedi order is to survive." ...continues to move very slowly, as if nothing of importance had happend.
Should have gone to the War Councik and forced them to issue Order 65. Should have used non-Jedi and the senate to go after Palpatine. Would’ve been better optics if Jedi, the GAR, and leading Senators declared Palpatine a traitor. And no Order 66 if 65 in effect first.
@@Fordo007 That would only have worked if they knew about the orders. The only forewarning they could have had was 5555 trying to uncover the secret about why the clones were all so obedient, but we all know how that ended.
@@tau-5794 the Clone Commandos brought it up off hand. The contingency orders were known… the chips forcing obedience weren’t. The Jedi just never expected that it could happen.
If you notice, Anakin's first breath as Vader happens at the same time Padme breaths her last...They had a strong connection in the Force. There is a fan theory that Anakin accidentally kills her trying to save himself by sapping her life... Q_Q
That'd be really fucking dark but that's a pretty damn cool theory. Another theory is when the mask is being put on Anakin while he's on the operating table you can see him mouth something. The theory is Anakin being good was desperately saying "Help me Padme" but as Padme dies and the mask is put on Vader kills Anakin inside completely and no good will come back until Anakin realizes his children are alive and need his help so he fights Vader off eventually winning at the end to save Luke. I love Star Wars lol.
Unfortunately, many republics slide later into Empires unfortunately. Its much easier to rule as a dictator vs remain a democracy within the rules that preserve it.
@Kristopher Chavez - I figured he brought "balance" right here in episode 3. Up to this point in time, there were THOUSANDS of Jedi, but only two Sith. By the end of this episode, there were two of each (Palps & Vader - Kenobi & Yoda)... Presto... BALANCE!
22:23 "I would believe that love could turn him around, but I know it doesn't" Here it doesn't, but his love for Luke is what turns him around in the end.
The sith have no room in their minds for compassion and love, they only think of themselves. In the end the biggest deceit of the dark side was that it tricked Anakin into believing that he did it for Padme, when in truth the dark side only gave him room for himself and his quest for power. And Palpatine knew this and used it, he used Anakin’s love to destroy him and turn him into his lap dog. It’s tragic.
But just maybe, if Padme had agreed to stay with Anakin , he WOULD have killed Palpatine and together Padme and Anakin would have restored the Republic. It IS kind of a rule that in order to be one Sith Lord, the apprentice MUST betray and kill his master
When Anakin went to the Dark Side it wasn’t “just like that”. That small naming ceremony was the culmination of years of manipulation from the Emperor (Palpatine) through Anakin’s dreams, emotions and the situations he was put in. If Qui Gon lived that would have never had happened..I think because he wouldn’t have just recited the Jedi doctrine to him when he had emotional problems dealing with his mother, he would listened to him and tried to work through them together like a father figure. Obi Won was like an older brother who didn’t have the knowledge of the living force - being present and reacting to situations not by what the Jedi have always done but by what felt correct. 🤷🏻♂️
I mean we get that through extended lore like clone wars, books and such but if you only have seen the movies themselfes you kinda don't see those years of manipulation. That's where the criticism of the prequels mostly stems from; I mean especially episode 3 hits really hard after watching the season 7 clone wars finale but without that and a lot of context... Anakin went from Jedi to childmurderer in like a couple hours in-universe time
@@justtheaverageone3840 Yeah I can see how someone would feel that way but throughout the prequels we see Anakin having trouble dealing with his emotions and Palpatine it seems being the only one to actually talk with him about this. While talking with Anakin slowly leading him away from the Jedi gradually casting doubt in his mind with the way the Jedi do things offering solutions by way of the dark side, not openly until later. 🤷🏻♂️
This is exactly correct. I know a lot of people will blame the Jedi for Anakin's fall and they certainly do bear some responsibility but let's not forget that Anakin was rebellious from a young age, even on his home planet of Tatooine. As a slave, it was in his nature to have a rebellious nature. However, Qui Gon was the father figure he never had who would've guided him on the right path and that's why his death at the hands of Maul in Phantom Menace is so important and meaningful. As David Fioni pointed out, the reason why Duel of The Fates was chosen as the musical score for that duel is because it was the battle for one of two fates for Anakin. If Qui Gon lived, Anakin's path towards becoming a Jedi master would be a certainty. Sadly he was killed and therefore his path towards becoming a Sith was set in motion. That, coupled with his visions of death and him feeling that Palpatine was the only one who understood him is what ultimately led him towards his downfall. Let's not forget that there is a 10 year period in between the events of Phantom Menace and Attack of The Clones, so there's no telling just how much of a relationship Anakin and Palpatine developed in that time. Lastly, Obi Wan agreed to train Anakin, not out of love he had for the young boy but as a favor for his dying master. He, himself was young and inexperienced at the time and never became the father figure Anakin desperately needed. Qui Gon would've been able to talk to Anakin about his feelings and his visions as he himself was a bit of a maverick and could see right through the Jedi Order's bullshit about being peacekeepers and yet engaging in endless wars and politics.
Yeah, but core reason is that dark side is kind of like drug. It's just not about someone "snapping" and becoming evil on their own. As far as I know most agreed upon concept of dark side is that it amplifies and takes your negative emotions and turns it into power. Also moment he he cut Widu's arm, for him it was culmination of all the things that had happened to him, and there was no going back in his mind.
I love that Qui Gon vowed to train him but when he was killed Obi Wan took this roll. It would be like a Father dying and the eldest brother having to raise the youngest. Thrusting him into a roll he was unprepared for.
The moment Anakin is alone on Mustafar and shedding a tear, it's like then he knows he's resigned himself to servitude... He's trapped by the emperor and he is lost.. It's the most powerful example of a tragic hero's fall story... So much is missed obviously from the Clone Wars series but that can't really be taken into full account
Great reaction - very perceptive and getting a lot of things other reactors don't always pick up on straight away. Please consider Rogue One before the sequel trilogy as it it acts as a bridge between the prequels and the Original Trilogy.
YES!!!! Cassie, you need to watch "Rogue One", and make sure you have a box of Kleenex with you. And don't ever watch "Solo". That was a piece of shit.
Absolutely agree, Rogue one is the only good Star Wars movie that Disney made in my opinion, otherwise the animated clone war series and forget the rest.
@@johnkillingsworth5135 Agree Rogue One is the only decent SW film Disney have produced. I actually got the SW 'feels' watching that one at the cinema - the rest either left me cold or made me feel a tad nauseous....have to say Mandalorian is up there alongside Rogue One for feels too thou.
@@charlesballard5251 Yes - Solo is a terrible movie IMO. I don't get why some people love it so much, completely ruins Hans mystique & does in such a lame way.
If you think she is shocked, imagine my face when watching this movie, after 6 seasons of clone wars. But man is this a great Star Wars movie. A little bit let down by the prequel problems like acting and so on, but overall, Anakin's fall is an amazingly dark and tragic journey. Someone who fights for love, and doesn't want to lose anyone, ends up becoming a dark lord, who is unable to love, and has lost everyone. It also makes his final moments in Return of The Jedi, so much more heartwarming. Despite all that monster has done, Luke puts his life on the line, and leaves it up to him, and he ends up doing the right thing.
Actually, love DOES save Anakin! But not until Episode 6. And it wasn't Padmé, it was Luke. It took decades but love did triumph in the end. And let's put it this way; if Anakin/Vader hadn't committed all these terrible things, already on the first day on the Dark Side even, then his redemption in ROTJ wouldn't be that special, now would it? Now it also makes so much more sense why Vader/Anakin hesitates to save Luke for so long. That's a LOT of Dark Side hold on him to break through & out of, remembering who he actually was & used to be, & to be brave again to not only risk his life but to even give it. I really love how ROTS & ROTJ in a lot of ways mirrors each other. The father & the son faces the same evil, the same evil person, & all the temptations & fears that come with it, & they chose so totally different. True, Luke did tap into the Dark Side for a moment, allowed it to take over. But, unlike his father, Luke cast the Dark Side away just as swiftly. Luke risked loosing everyone he loves very much, too, yet chose to rather die than to give in. Luke had a deeper strength that his father never really had. Anakin was always a slave, in one way or another; as a child, a slave to the Jedi rules of no attachments (hence why he broke it) & a slave to Palpatine & the Dark Side. Luke was always free. And that's the key, or one of them, how he dared to face evil & tell it to go F itself. I really don't understand Palpatine's thinking in how he could believe he could turn Luke when Anakin was always more fragile & easier to manipulate, & yet he had to work more than a decade to turn him, how did he expect to turn Luke in one evening? But, as Luke told him; "Your overconfidence is your weakness."
Seeing Sidious electrocuting Luke reminded Vader of Mace Windu's last moments and his failure to see what Darth Sidious was actually doing. Anakin's last line before disarming Mace and fully turning to the Darkside was NOOO. Darth Vader's last line before turning back to the Lightside and yeeting Darth Sidious into the Pit of Doom, NOOO!!!
Yes, but to be honest, by the time he faced Luke Palpatine seemed either dead bored or much too sure of himself. I mean all he really did was be like: "Strike me down with anger and you'll join the Dark Side!" OOOkay then, why are you telling him exactly what he shouldn't do to remain good? Luke had no idea about that! I think that if Palpatine put even half the effort he did with Anakin in turning Luke, Luke wouldn't stand a chance! But then of course we wouldn't have a happy ending and I really loved that, even if they had to turn Palpy half-senile in order to get it! But I wouldn't go so far as to say that Luke was stronger than Anakin and that's why he didn't turn.
"His fate will be the same as ours" Obi Wan: Dies on a battlestation. Palpatine: Dies on a battlestation (in my heart, he died there). Anakin: Dies on a battlestation;
@@mattrismatt I will admit, The Force Awakens is the only one of the sequels I actually don't mind but Last Jedi ruined the sequels for me and while I admire Rise of Skywalker for what it tried to do (considering LJ) it couldn't fix the damage that Last Jedi caused
I myself had the same reaction as she did when I first saw this episode. "How can Anakin turn to the dark side so easily?" It all makes more sense after seeing seven seasons of The Clone Wars!
The reason Anakin seemed to give in so quickly at the end is that the Dark Side bent then broke Anakin's will with the help of the emperor. Remember what Vader said to Luke, you don't know the power of the dark side "I must obey."
One of the reason Obi-Wan is my favorite character is because of how loyal to the Jedi he is while still doing un-Jedi things. The biggest example being his love for Anakin.
George Lucas already had the Star Wars story in his head in the early 70s, but realized it was so long that he had to break it down into several movies. He decided to start with Episode 4 because he felt it would have the most zip with a general audience. He felt that if he actually started with Episode 1, it wouldn't have the traction among the studio execs to go any further. Cassie, if you really want to check out Episodes 7, 8, and 9, go ahead. You might even like them, but personally, I didn't. They showed no respect for the original Star Wars story or the original characters. Rogue One is really good, and DOES pay respect to what's gone before. Rogue One is kind of like Episode 3.9, as it happens just before Episode 4.
While R1 is definitely the best SW movie the new regime has put out so far, that's more of a "by default" achievement for me... and I almost feel as though people are starting to overrate it in light of how bad those other 4 movies were. I mean, it has some of the same glaring problems: bland characters, a sometimes overly convoluted plot, more contemporary-sounding dialogue (as opposed to the stylized '30s/'40s movie speak of Eps. I-VI), the undercutting of certain story details from I-VI, and painfully self-aware winks to the OT, to state a few without spoiling anything. Still, I'll give it props for actually adding new elements (which was a big thing for Lucas for each new movie) in terms of spacecraft and militia instead of merely slapping a new coat of paint on various OT items... and the Battle of Scarif segment is still the closest the new regime has come so far to actually feeling like those 6 Lucas-made movies.
He had some of the ideas early on, but Anakin and Vader were separate characters until he was writing Empire Strikes Back. Also, about Leia being Luke's sibling, was a last minute addition, to wrap up loose ends.
You can find hints of what he originally had in mind in old publication materials and sort of piece together a rough outline of what he actually had in mind for the prequels when the original trilogy was in production. There's some old Marvel Comics annual from '79 that talks about the creation of Darth Vader and it does mention in the passing that he was crippled in a fight with Obi-Wan over lava so he definitely had at least that in mind back then already. I do wish he had followed those early notes a bit more closely; in them, Luke or at least Leia was like four years old already when Anakin turned to the dark side, which is why we got that line in Return where Leia barely remembers her mother.
@@asperhes So you don't even believe the idea that Lucas had an 250+ page script and took one third of it to make A New Hope, as well as taking the ending of Jedi and putting it onto A New Hope? Of course his story and script changed quite a bit, it was a general outline or draft of where things were supposed to go, he didn't have the details figured out yet.
Yeah, 7,8,9 can not really be treated as true sequels. I think they came out too late to be true sequels of Return of the Jedi. I think the Timothy Zahn (Heir to the Empire) EU novels trilogy would have made more sense as the basis for movie sequel plot lines. 7,8,9 recycling the same ideas - they are kind of "Kelvin Universe" Star Wars in the same sense the JJ StarTreks were not quite what you expect from Trek even while trying to honour the original concept but failing (in the opinion of many fans). Agree with Rogue One but Solo not quite what you would expect as he was really a minor character (he was not the focus of the OT). Maybe it would have been too obvious and easy just to have a movie of Solo on smuggling missions, rescuing Chewbacca, winning the Falcon in a card game and running up a debt to Jabba the Hutt and proving the Falcon is the fasted hunk of junk in the galaxy.
Cassie: "If anyone tries to hurt babies" Later, "He killed the kids" At this point you should just know that anything bad you point out early tends to happen. Be careful with your future vision.
Anakin was probably already dealing with ptsd from his years of fighting in the clone wars and that made it easier for Emperor Palpatine and the dark side to corrupt his mind. I think the reason for Anakin’s quick switch in moral character was because the dark side was already growing inside his mind, his fear of more loss in his life, and the fact that the dark side is like an intense mind altering drug that controls you the more you give in to it.
The theater was packed and there wasn’t a sound. There was dead silence. No one wanted to breathe. It was chilling. He takes his first breath as Vader as Padme takes her last.
The line that gets my tears going every time is; "Master Skywalker, there are too many of them, what are we going to do?"... the Anakin lights up his lightsaber.... I watched it 21 years ago in the theater, and dozens of times since. Every time it gets me.
Well, maybe she'll be able to see through these ersatz newer movies the same way some other reactors have (Mary Cherry, Duaffy M&S, and TimotheeReacts immediately come to mind). Fingers crossed.
My favorite thing about watching her react to watching all of the Star Wars movies fresh for the first time is that she is completely not jaded about the whole franchise. Too often the worst thing about Star Wars is the fanbase and how at large no one is ever happy with the direction the series goes in one way or another. It's super refreshing to just watch someone take it all in and take it for what it's worth the good and the bad.
After watching Clone Wars, seeing the once great warrior, hero, friend, and mentor Anakin was before becoming Darth Vader really makes what Obi-Wan told Luke hit even harder: Darth Vader murdered Anakin Skywalker.
Last I checked in Canon Vaders lightsaber crystal is also stolen from a Jedi Lightsaber. IIRC it used to be that Sith used synthetic lightsaber crystals that always turned out red, while natural ones that the Jedi used came in a multitude of colours, I think that got retconned to "Sith have red lightsabers because the dark side of the force eventually turns the crystal red."
18:45 The clones are conditioned from the start to follow orders, and have standing orders for expected events, one of them is order 66 which tells them the jedi are traitors that they must kill just like Vader in a way they are "more machine than man".
I have a theory: When Luke asked Leia if she remembered her real mother and she said she was very beautiful but sad, I believe it was a vision and not a memory and she was too young to distinguish the difference.
This is the best reaction video ever. It was fascinating to watch a romantic who had just gotten into Star Wars watch this film. Having grown up on it, to me seeing it Anakin seemed like a petulant child but to a romantic it fits. Clone Wars repaired it for me as you see far better why he ends up distrusting the Jedi. I highly recommend it. You get to see much more of Obi-wan and Anakin's relationship, plus you get to meet Anakin's Padawan .
New stories will flesh out the Sequel Trilogy the same way Clone Wars fleshed out the Prequels which, in case some suffer from selective amnesia, were equally hated in their time.
I so want to watch the Clone Wars, but dang, its a cartoon, an accentuated one at that. If it was more of a real cartoon, I would be more prone to watch it. Im older, so maybe thats why not. I have a friend that said the ame as you. he said just watch all the seasons an endure it, but youll come out better understanding on the other end. Maybe Ill give it a try.
@@WesMordine If retconning shit in the new Expanded Universe to make Kylo Ren seem like a poor victim to pander to his fangirls who only like him because they fancy Adam Driver, making an actual rock a character, writing a random story about everyone farting at a wedding and the like is Disney's idea of fleshing out the sequel trilogy I'd rather they didn't.
Fun fact! When Ewan McGregor said the line to Padme about seeing footage of Anakin killing younglings he covers his mouth with his hand because he couldn't stop laughing every time he said it
"The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural." Gives me chills every time. Love that opera scene. Hey, Cassie! Well, you got wise to Palpatine before the reveal but still had a great shocked reaction! Lucas provided visual and vocal cues since "Phantom Menace" that Palpatine and Sidious were one and the same. Ian McDiarmid plays the Emperor in all the Star Wars films in which he appears. He's the one character having a total blast throughout the prequels because he's pulling everybody's strings! His seduction of Anakin is masterful. Chronologically, "Solo" is the next to see, then "Rogue One", then "The Mandalorian", then the Sequel trilogy. See the films in that order then go back to the three animated series, "Clone Wars", "Bad Batch" and "Rebels". There are revelations in "The Mandalorian" that will make you curious to see their origins in the animated shows afterwards. The absolute best line of the Prequel trilogy goes to Natalie Portman: "So this is how liberty dies...with thunderous applause." Wookiees live for hundreds of years! In "Revenge of the Sith", Chewbacca is 181 years old! It is a popular belief that Padme's life force was drained out of her and channeled into Anakin by Palpatine which is why her death and his re-birth are juxtaposed by Lucas. Therefore, Palpy is directly responsible for the death of the person he convinced Anakin he could save prompting his betrayal of the Jedi in the first place! A very cruel manipulation. One of the Jedi Order's problems is that they had become ossified by dogma and had lost touch with their true purpose. This made them vulnerable to manipulation by the Sith and blind to their own shortcomings. Iconoclasts like Qui-Gon sought esoteric knowledge beyond ordained teachings to plumb deeper truths and were viewed as troublesome for suggesting the Order had become complacent and stagnant. The knowledge Yoda imparts to Obi-Wan at the end is his discovery of the path to immortality. His spiritual journey is chronicled in the animated "Clone Wars" when Liam Neeson returns as Qui-Gon Jinn's spirit to instruct Yoda in the deepest mysteries of the Force. Jedi immortality manifests as the Force-ghosts you see in the Classic trilogy. This was an ability unknown to the Order until Qui-Gon contacts Yoda which is why there are no Force-ghosts in the Prequel trilogy. The Jedi are all but exterminated by Order 66 much like how the Knights Templar were rounded up on a single day, Friday the 13th, in October 1307, by order of the French King Philip IV in a series of coordinated, simultaneous arrests. Emperor Palpatine initiated a smear campaign to vilify the Jedi and expunged any mention of them from the historical record. Philip IV did the same to the Templars demonizing them with false allegations of larceny, murder, sexual perversion, sedition and Satanism that led to their mass burning at the stake with the blessing of the Papacy! Palpy achieved control of a galaxy with his scheme while Philip was simply dodging the crushing debt he owed the Order! The clones are tragic pawns in Palpatine's scheme. They were bred by the Republic and were loyal to their creators serving through thick and thin with their Jedi Generals. The animated "Clone Wars" does a magnificent job of individualizing the troopers. However, they were engineered with a fail-safe to force them to obey executive decisions without question. Initiating Order 66 flips the switch in their brains forcibly turning them against the Jedi whom they previously would have died for. It's a horrifying betrayal not least of which to the clones themselves. Although the Separatist leadership was led by Count Dooku, they weren't privy to the collusion between Dooku and Supreme Chancellor Palpatine. Each Sith Lord led a faction in the Clone Wars to play both sides against each other creating chaos they could manipulate to their personal advantage! The populations of the worlds which aligned with one faction or the other truly believed in their respective causes which were socioeconomic and geopolitical. The layman had no idea he was just a pawn in Palpatine's grand scheme. With the Jedi exterminated, the greatest threat to his plan was taken off the board and he sent Vader to dispose of the Separatist leadership so he could consolidate power over the organizations they represented. The Separatist worlds relied on the support of those industries and institutions so those worlds would fall in line once those support systems were firmly in the Emperor's grip. Senator Bail Organa orders C-3PO's mind to be wiped but R2-D2's CPU is left intact. Artoo REMEMBERS EVERYTHING!
I guessed way back in the first, but not because of any great reveal, but the fact that many EU materials including RPG books, comics, novels etc had said that the emperor was an 'unassuming senator called Palpatine', then again there was no guarantee that Lucas would stick to that as Boba Fett's origin story was originally far different being a 'former Journeyman Protector by the name of Jaster Mereel' and that didn't happen.
My head cannon has been that it wasn’t Sidious that was channeling Padme’s life force but that it was Vader himself. Anakin’s connection to her was strong and naturally became the well he drew from for life. I’ve never thought he did it knowingly, just survival instinct. Palps has always seemed fluid and uses what comes to him. And Padme’s death serves him in many ways.
There are two things I suggest that show some clarity on Anakin's actions. First you should watch if you can the Clone Wars series as you see a lot more of Anakin's transformation and why he didn't trust the Jedi Council in it. Also, one reason why Anakin got so mad with Padme is found in the book when Obi Wan showed up. He thought earlier in the book that they were having an affair and she brought Obi wan there to kill him so they could be together.
Cassie: "If anyone tries to hurt babies..."
Me: "Uh-oh"
yeah, uh, about that ...
And then Obi-Wan gives Luke the Youngling Slayer 9000 in Ep. 4 without a second thought :P
Ahahahaha literally my reaction when she said it🤣🤣🤣
@@lordmortarius538 Later, Then Rey tells us the sith dagger done evil things, while holding the Younglin slayer 9000
@@brianingram6942 lmao
The biggest thing I missed watching this and was later pointed out to me in a TH-cam breakdown of this movie was that when palpatine told Anakin to kill Dooku Ani and said he shouldn’t because it wasn’t the Jedi way and Palpatine says he’s too dangerous to be kept alive. When mace Windu is standing over Palpatine and Anakin tells him he can’t be killed, mace Windu says he’s too dangerous to be kept alive. In that moment Anakin convinced himself there’s zero difference between the Jedi and Sith and that’s what solidified his turn
Everything Great About? :P
Yeah, but IIRC Mace Windu was one of those Jedi who played fast and loose with the darkside without allowing it to corrupt him, so thats one on Mace, not on Jedi in general.
@@cuffzter Agreed. This is why Yoda didn't go for the surprise kill when he could, because it wasn't the Jedi way. And Mace Windu is one of those that helped in the corruption. This is when the saying "if everyone lived by eye for an eye, then the whole world will be blind" is shown perfectly.
A man of taste I see. CinemaWins is a great channel
@@bemasaberwyn55 I agree. When I first heard of Cinema Wins, I expected some cheap knock-off of Cinema Sins narrated by some christian camp counselor or something. But the guy's astute observations and infectious optimism kind of won me over.
"You were my brother, Anakin! I loved you!" - such a powerful delivery, just rips your heart out.
@Meme Frog Bad Key word "loved." I've heard they did the scene two ways, one with "loved" and one with "love." They chose to the one with "loved" in the end.
There is no good or evil...only power and those to weak to wield it.
Yep.
Fuckin tragic😭
@Meme Frog Bad
Darth Anakin would have done the same or worse.
He killed younglings and choked Padme.
He unfortunately became a being who deserved to burn...
He didn't use wisdom he used anxious arrogance and paid the price.
Nah bro the one that gets me every time is the "I am sorry" from Obi-Wan after asking if Anakin is the Father.. that one is just hitting like a truck.
Can we appreciate the fact that Hayden Christensen and Ewan McGregor actually did the fight scene together. No stuntmen and they did it at full speed because they learned the choreography perfectly.
There's some pretty cool behind the scenes footage of them rehearsing it out there, they definitely put in the work.
Also, Shad from the channel Shadversity made a video almost the length of the movie analyzing the fight, and he said that is one of the most realistic fights ever made.
While it IS true that they were the fighters - no stuntmen - I hate having to reveal that some frames were cut here and there to make some of their moves appear faster. The most famous example is the strike that occurs in the hallway just after Anakin spins his lightsaber behind his back. Still badass though.
Shit if you told me I was going to be in the cast of Star Wars I would go above and beyond for them.
Say what you want about George’s dialogue but the fight scenes were tremendous.
One of my favorite little easter eggs at 12:36 when Obi-wan says "Goodbye, old friend". That is the last time the two of them see each other before Anakin turns to the dark side. Obi is standing in the light, and Anakin is standing in shadow. That line just hits harder when you realize that he is actually saying goodbye to his best friend/brother without really knowing it.
Also at 20:38 when he says 'R2 stay with the ship.' are his last words to R2-D2 and that's teh reason why R2 always tries to reach his master in the episodes IV to VI. 😉
it makes harder when you think about it. this is the last time obi-wan would ever see anakin skywalker again in life. the next time he sees him, he isn't his brother anymore. he's darth vader. so when he said "good-bye, old friend", he's truly bidding farewell to his best friend.
“Shouldn’t they be red.”
Funny you mention that: he gets them from Jedi he’s killed. His precious *collection*
I like how they mention in the comics how the kyber crystals are sentient. In order for a sith to make the kyber crystals red they have pour their anger and hate into them.
@@gmfb521 they start bleeding, but sith are also known for using synthetic crystals, because they dont really care, but that was mostly done in the old republic before the rule of two.
@@remus907 And eventually, Ahsoka discovers that you can "unbleed" them and purify them, because she's the jediest Jedi
@@johnhannon4074 "Im no jedi"
-ahsoka
But yes she did purify 2 crystals from inquisitor blades.
Ahsoka is what the jedi should have been, but the jedi councils arrogance blinded them
@@remus907 that was my point. She was more jedi than any jedi. She left because she realized what she was, didn't fit with the jedi council, but she was exactly what a jedi should be, which is further proof it any was needed that the council was trash.
John Williams truly fired on every cylinder he had with this trilogy.
Like in the ot
My son plays Binary sunsets or some Know it as the force theme , on his Barisax. So beautiful. And my other son plays the throne room and imperial March on his baritone!
Bravo!
@@americandad8903 Thats awesome
Thank you
Also! A note: General Grevious doesn't have a red lightsaber because he isnt a sith. He's technically a cyborg warrior. What does he hunt? Jedi. The lightsabers he has are heavily implied to be stolen off of the dead jedi he killed.
Yeah he said that in the original clone wars show, the 2d one
@@oogaboogie The 2D Clone Wars show is my true Canon between 2 and 3.
@@Scapemaster00 yeah I think of it as Canon too, I mean it doesn't contradict anything
Oh yeah. Not even implied. He says YOUR light sabers (to anakin and kenobi) will make a fine ADDITION to my collection. He keeps them as trophies. It’s pretty badass… I still wish they didn’t make him so weirdly sick and weak
@@thejasperraster7818 RIP 2003 clone wars grevious
Padme: Anakin, you're breaking my heart.
Anakin: Silly Padme, it's pronounced "neck".
nice one
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"Their dialogue sometimes... It's like I wrote it."
I felt that.
@@malkamusik Both fanboyflicks and the Rifftrax crew have at Lucas for this very theme in the prequels. So freakin' whiny.
It was actually PERFECT writing, considering just how uneducated, unrefined, and naive the character of Anakin is.
He's an archetype for when power, influence, appeal, strength, courage and emotional passion... all get placed into the WRONG type of human being: into a 'man child'.
This may or may not hold
ironic relevance regarding 2016-2020. 🙄
She would have done a better job
@@Novastar.SaberCombat yeah it's actually true, i think people just simply wanted to see a realistic mature romantic relationship between the two completely ignoring Anakin's character
@@Novastar.SaberCombat There are ways to make a really strong dialogue for Anakin’s character without having to pull out stuff that makes it seem like he’s reciting Shakespeare. He’s emotionally stunted yes and often very conflicted about his emotions and while Hayden did show us this throughout this movie and did a damn good job, it still doesn’t save how awful the script was. It’s a very well known fact that George does not know how to write a realistic conversation between two people. Most of the things that Anakin says is something I would read in a book, not actually see said out loud during a conversation.
All in all, anakin’s a very well thought out character. Just poorly written in terms of the script
"I sense Lord Vader is in danger."
"Stop calling him that," she says, wearing a Darth Vader tshirt! ☺
Also, he senses the guy who just made enemies with like the whole galaxy who is on a volcanic planet is in danger. How perceptive!
That line has always puzzled me. In my opinion anakin was clearly the better duelist between him and obiwan. His arrogance is what cost him the fight. Why sidious thought he was in danger at that point in time doesn’t make sense to me? Maybe because the fight was going on longer than he expected
Women and Star Wars ... blegh.
Watched a reaction video the other day for ROTS , and this chick says : Padme is the best XD
@@filipmiletic8438 what exactly is your problem?
@@livvioletta690 well,if I have to explain it to u I've pretty much proved my point.
Christopher Lee's acting is so fucking good. When Dooku looks at Palpatine ordering Anakin to kill him, the look of shock and betrayal on his face says everything.
he was one of the best of all time, rest in peace legend.
Treachery is the way of the Sith
@@Alysa-Aiday sadly, he is, he passed away in 2015.
As a Sith, though, I kinda wonder what he thought the end game was gonna be lol
Christopher was just PERFECT, that was an actor damn it. may he rest in peace
There's actually so many intricate things to unpack when it comes to Anakin's downfall. This was 13 years of high expectations, repressed emotions, untreated trauma, adult manipulation, several notable losses, extreme anxiety, and overall disillusionment with Jedi, all culminating on the shoulders of one mentally ill man. To the point where that man finally breaks and loses his mind.
Anakin was a good man dealt a really shit hand. By the end of it all, he was desperately trying to justify what he'd done until that final shred of humanity was literally burned off of him. At that point, all he was left with was a torture chamber that kept him alive, and the man that might as well have put him there. Sad shit man...
It actually makes sense why Anakin would desperately want power and attachments. He was born a slave with no liberty over his own life. Of course he'd cling desperately to whatever blessings and comforts he could enjoy.
And while yes, Lucas is notoriously bad at dialogue, it also makes sense why he'd be so awkward in a relationship, considering he grew up on a planet filled with some of Galaxy's nastiest characters, and the Jedi prohibited such behavior overall.
Then there's Palpatine... pretending to be the father figure Anakin needed all to take advantage of all of Anakin's vulnerabilities.
It sure is the ultimate tragedy of our modern times.... Cinema wise at least
@Raylan Givens Yeah, I saw that Dave Filoni talked about that.
His story is a true tragedy without a doubt. One of the many things that makes this franchise so great.
Agreed you need to understand Star Wars lore and Anakin outside the movies to understand why he turned. The Jedi aren't innocent in this either.
Cassie: “He’s like a robot Dracula.”
Grievous: “I AM NOT A DROID!”
Droids, boss, they call them droids
A droid would be a full robot. Grievous is a cyborg, like Vader :)
A robot dracula
Huhuhuhahahahahahaha
Michael Weyland in the Assembly Cut: Same
Edit: Cassie don't view the replies to my comment for the sake of spoilers :)
It's up to you, but the stand alone Star Wars Story "Rogue One" fits in nicely as the next movie to watch, before the sequel trilogy. It's set between episodes 3 and 4. Oh and it's actually good!
I second this comment.
Just don't bother with the sequel trilogy
Yup. Agreed 100%.
Cassie- "Don't read this- spoilers".... I just don't understand why there are so many people who ship this movie. With EVERYONE dying at the end- how could they possibly have a storyline on the planet? No one knows what happened - which makes it pure fictional fiction. Kinda like " The Perfect Storm" .. 2hr movie on a boat where they all die... so how could we possibly know what happened at sea. Same applies here. I did not find any characters in Rogue One to be " memorable" either- except the droid.
DEFINITELY check out Rogue One next. It's one of the best Star Wars movies.
Fun fact: Anakin says Obi-Wans fate will be the same as theirs, and all three of them died on death stars
holy **** you blew my mind
Except Palpatine doesn’t die on the Death Star. He dies on Exegol.🤷♂️ Rian Johnson fu€ked everyone, and JJ was forced to take extreme measures.😑
Wasn’t that a Palpatine clone? Didn’t the actual Palpatine die on the DS?
@@portalina no, on Exegol died clone of Palpatine
@@brentmeistergeneral6074 yes, you are right
"Shouldn't they be red?"
The lightsabers aren't red because Gen. Grievous had kept them as trophies of the Jedi he has defeated in battle.
Watch the animated 2003 _'Clone Wars'_ miniseries and the animated 2008+ _'Clone Wars'_ series, which are set between the events of Episode II and this film to learn more about General Grievous.
@KarSoban Agreed regarding the length of the two sets of animated _'Clone Wars'_ which is why I cited both.
Many people forget about the earlier one but that is where we see General G. start his collection. As you say, that may be enough for her.
Also, Grievous was not a dark Force user so the kyber crystals in those lightsabers were not corrupted and thus did not turn red.
@@PlumbPitiful Unless of course, you stick with the original reason that Sith lightsabers are red: their crystals are synthetic. The Sith viewing their ability to create what they desire via a crucible & forge superior to being weak & submitting to the guidance of the Force to find a natural crystal.
Then General G. not bring a Force User just means he wouldn't be using the Sith process.
@@chrishouston4497 You could.
I'd taunt him by saying "...there seems to be a glitch in your programming" since he hates being thought of as a droid.
@@pauld6967
Ah, a man of taste, I see. And therein lie the two schools of thought:
- The original canon, that the color of a lightsaber is due directly to the color of the crystal that focuses the beam i.e. a blue crystal makes a blue blade, and a purple one makes Samuel L. Jackson look cool lol
- Disney's new canon, where lightsabers are like mood rings and the color reflects some special aspect of your personality. Sith's lightsabers are red, now, because they have to corrupt the crystal and make it "bleed".
I greatly prefer the original canon, but to each his own. I'm not a fan of the sequels, but I don't blame or hate on people who like them - hell, I still love the 80's Ewok movies lol
Something you need to understand about the dark side, is that it warps your mind. Unreasonable things suddenly seem reasonable. It can grant you incredible powers, but basically at the cost of your soul. It's a devil's bargain. Anakin's opinions flipped around so fast and he started rationalizing everything because the dark side fosters, encourages and nurtures all the worst impulses within you and brings them to the front. You know how when you get really angry or upset and you just don't see straight until you calm down? The dark side is like having that on 100% of the time with almost no way out. You can relinquish the dark side, as we saw Vader do at the end of Episode 6, but it's an act of incredible will, like quitting a powerful drug cold turkey--you have to first recognize it's a problem, and the dark side usually prevents you from doing so.
I’ll disagree and say that I always think Anakin’s rapid mind shift just came way too fast. I definitely agree with him killing Windu to save Palpatine’s life and joining the dark side but he turns on the Jedi and his own morality within mere seconds. That is something I do wish had been drawn out a bit more, perhaps show a passage of time with him experimenting in the dark side. Then show the Jedi genocide. Or better yet, rather than have anakin help kill the Jedi, palpatine could force him to sit and watch his comrades be slaughtered helplessly by the clones, at which point he has nothing to live for and embraces the dark side 100%. Idk, just my opinions, my opinions on the prequels change from time to time, but my one constant factor is that this movie will always be ten times better than the sequels.
@@thatperformer3879 he’s sort of been experimenting with the Dark Side all throughout The Clone Wars. Massacring an entire village of Sand People for killing his mother, Stabbing a bomber threatening to blow up the ship in the back, force choking a prisoner to save his apprentice, crushing a communicator at the mere mention of slavers, harassing and harming someone who had feelings for his wife, executing Dooku after years of war at Palpatine’s request, before finally assisting in Windu’s murder to save his wife and unborn children.
Anakin always has a reason, but he slowly slid into evil until he forgot why he wanted the power, only that he wanted power.
The tragedy of Maul, no longer Darth.
@@theemperormoth5089 Clone Wars redeemed the prequels IMO.
The same goes for the light side. No one would ever claim, for example, that the inquisition was evil. Oh no. They had the most holy of holy objectives in mind. The Jedi are also a totalitarian system, they just approach it from another angle. Sith: We need fights so that the strongest can survive and advance. Jedi: We will prevent anyone from fighting and force them into a peace situation because we like harmony and actually don't mind corruption if it serves our purpose of harmonic togetherness.
Hayden actually acted Anakin about ad perfectly as you could ask. He did as good as one could with the corny lines, but he also absolutely nailed a young conflicted person. Don’t forget that he was a slave and basically raised to not show emotion too.
But you got to admit he was not good as a jedi, he only seemed interesting as a sith.
@@ebbhead20 No he was perfect as a Jedi, he’s what a jedi really should have been
@@xgormo9805 nope, what im saying is what people say. In fact the hate towards Christensen has only started to change a few years ago. And it was only about 5 days ago someone did a thing about why Hayden was seen as a bad actor when playing a good guy, but found redemption when playing a sith lord. There's a kind of new appreciation for Christensen today when you look online. And i have to agree with these youtubers. He does become more worth watching when turning bad.
@@ebbhead20 Better as a sith sure, but he played what a Jedi really should have been well. And his character wad portrayed perfectly, well, about as perfect as you can get. People who dislike his character more often than not don’t actually understand his character at all
@@xgormo9805 I also liked Hayden's performance, with the obvious drawbacks of the dialogue. But I don't know how you come to the conclusion that he was the perfect Jedi. You can argue that the Jedi and itis philosophies failed him, which is a factor that led to his fall to the darkside, but he was very imperfect as a Jedi. He ignored orders, let his feelings cloud his judgement, and his imperfection as a Jedi is precisely what led Sidious to being able to manipulate him.
Cassie: "he's not going to kill the younglings is he?"
Me: "This is where the fun begins"
😂😂
😂😂😭😭😂😂😂
i was like... woh oh!
All Star Wars fans troll people with that scene.
What's the difference between a watermelon & a group of younglings?
One is fun to cut into tiny pieces w/ a lightsaber, & the other is a watermelon.
Something to remember, Anakin's been manipulated by Palpatine since he was 9 years old, to the point he viewed Palpatine as a father who was the only one who truly understood him. So after 15 years of influence, he was much more willing to do what Palpatine wanted. What's more is that the moment Mace Windu said "He's too dangerous to be kept alive", that told Anakin the Jedi were exactly like the Sith since Palpatine said the same thing right before pushing Anakin to kill Dooku.
This is particularly important. He couldn't see the moral difference between the Jedi and Sith Teachings, so why should he not choose the side that can save his wife and children? Especially after a decade of feeling stifled and scolded by the other side.
That's why the score for the fight with Darth Maul in the Phantom Menace was called Duel of the Fates - they were fighting over the fate of young Anakin. If Qui Gon Jinn had survived, then he would have trained Anakin and been the father figure he needed and would not have turned to the Dark Side. Vader's redemption in Return of the Jedi was he realised he would have to be the father to Luke he never had.
The Jedi are painted as the "good guys" in the films but if you really think about it they are not the moral pacifists they are portrayed as.
If you look at it from Anakins point of view he was treated as an outsider from the beginning, they never truly embraced him even after all he went through during the Clone Wars, after all the friends he lost and the lives he saved.
Yet they still did not trust him.
For example when Mace Windu says "I don't trust him." and when Anakin confides to Padme that he felt "lost".
Lets not forget the Jedi essentially separated him from his mother then left her chained in slavery and then forbid him from saving her because apparently it wasn't worth the hassle and would be against their dogmatic tenants.
"Forbid all human attachment or be separated from all you know."
Doesn't seem very moral.
In his eyes they betrayed him after all he sacrificed for the order. His love for his wife was not something he was going to "train himself to let go" of.
The Jedi essentially brought it on themselves and many of them in fact saw it coming. They went from peace keepers to warmongers in their own right. The Jedi had to be defeated.
His relationship with Sidious was a relationship of necessity nothing more. Anakin/Vader hated and despised Sidious but ultimately he could do nothing about it and he had nothing left after becoming Vader, nothing but his hate. In the end he lost everything and was used as a tool by both sides.
To me he is the true Hero of Star Wars, heroes are flawed, they stray between the light and the dark but ultimately rise to the occasion.
@@rbrtck They weren't evil but they caused a lot of suffering due to their own actions and idealogy, whether intentional or not it makes no difference.
There were many planet's and peoples who did not agree with the Republic or the Jedi. Many of them willingly sided with the Empire after the Republics fall. Many were on the side of the Separatists during the War.
Think of how many innocent people died as a result of the Jedi's actions, especially after the formation of the Empire.
Liberators to some and terrorists to others, point being it's not black or white either way.
There is no denying the Jedi were pretty cruel when it came to children. The manipulation and warping of the minds, the prohibition on normal human emotions and connections between others, which ironically contributed towards their downfall at the hands of Vader.
Qui-gon and Ahsoka for example saw the flaws in what the Jedi order had become and the bloated corrupt machine of the Republic.
Sidious wanted the younglings destroyed so they would not grow to become a threat.
Anakin in the position he was in and given the orders to destroy the Jedi in the temple reasoned that it was a mercy to strike them down himself quickly rather than leave them alive to suffer a worse fate. And he wasn't entirely wrong considering Sidious is well known for corrupting Jedi and turning them into tortured pawns to do his bidding, the very same thing he did to Anakin.
Anakin certainly did not get pleasure from it like Sidious most certainly did.
So this idea that the Jedi are the good guys and the Sith are the ultimate evil just isn't true. They are two sides of the same coin.
Sure you can argue some individuals were truly evil like Sidious but then there are others like Grevious, given not a force wielder but his origins and motivation was far from evil. He was used by Palpatine in the same way as Anakin. The same way the Jedi used Anakin to fight their war and spy for them.
I suppose it is more accurate to say the Jedi council was at fault and brought on it's own demise rather than every single Jedi the same way Sidious was on the other end.
@@MakemTwitch that's it
You should really watch Rogue One next. It falls between this and Episode IV: A New Hope and ties into Episode IV so well. Also, it's by far the best Star Wars movie of the Disney era.
Completely agree
I second the motion, and request the addition of Clone Wars!
Lies ....Rogue One is the only existing Disney Star Wars
yes yes YES!
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It's tragic that the last thing Anakin's mother, wife and mentor said to him before he became Darth Vader was that they loved him
Wow, I never made that correlation!! Thanks for that clarity.
Thats heartbreaking. The tragedy and redemption of Darth Vader the chosen one
Ya. He had issues with the ladies. Except maybe Asoka...who was almost successful in saving him as a Jedi in the animated Clone Wars series.
When the Emperor calls Anakin 'Lord Vader' and you say "Stop calling him that". I love how you get so invested in the story, it's why I keep watching you 🥰
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@007KURGAN I would like this comment but 66 is the perfect number so I put my like here 👍
@@sosowieso970 hahaha, thank you 😘
Cassie's reaction to this movie may be the best I've seen. Her raw emotion and attachment to this story was spot on how a new fan should take this movie. She's probably my favorite reactor right now and I'm subscribed to a bunch of them!!! NEXT STOP... ROGUE ONE!!!
Yes… the last movie. None were made after it, go straight to the shows
Yes, Rogue One! Donnie Yen should've had more screen time, but I do love that movie...ESPECIALLY that specific ending scene!
Yes. Rogue one is the best
She is honestly my favourite Star Wars reactionist on TH-cam. She is so curious to everything in the movies, i feel like she wants to grasp every small detail from the story, unlike so man reaction youtubers who talk the whole time...
Definitely ditch the sequels and Solo, Rogue One is the one true follow-up. The only reactor on a par with Cassie is Dasha of Russia, she gets equally attached to the story and characters.
Just hearing "the good guys are always supposed to triumph over evil" makes me remember r why I love this movie so much. Because it was the rare time we get to see the bad guys actually be threatening and win
There’s always movies like this and Avengers Infinity War where the bad guys won and defeated the good guys
They came real close to losing and,
they have the scars to show for it
@@haydo-9916 they didn’t lose lol that’s part 1 of 2 parts where the hood guys win in the end...
@@One.Zero.One101 I beg to differ. No war movie has a good ending. It just has a lesser worse ending than the war continuing.
Palpatine should have won in episode 9
When Anakin screams: 'I hate you!' at his best friend, Obi Wan it rips my heart out! He has truly turned to the dark side.
What killed me about that moment is that even though he screams that, both before and after there is such great pain in his eyes, and not all of it from his new injuries. There's emotional pain, especially when Obi Wan makes such heartfelt lamentation about the whole thing. I feel like in those moments Anakin truly knew that he had made a huge mistake, but he was too far in it to stop. Even after all the poison in his mind about jedi, he did not hate Obi Wan.
It’s one of the most heartbreaking moments in cinema and one that has been nightmare fuel to me since I was nine years old.
Yeah and plus he probably murdered about 100 small children between the sand people and Jedi.
Before that, you could plainly see that the Dark Side had already got its hooks fully into him when he said to his wife "I will not let you die the same way as my mother". As Yoda said, fear of loss leads to the dark side… and Anakin's fear of losing Padme just maxed out.
@@Metamorfeus Well he did let his mother die. All he had to do was bring her to Coruscant. The Jedi appaer to be extremely rich, and it would have been humane and prevented the whole movie. Why didn't they? "So the movie could happen."
So the psychology of Anakin/Vader is one of my favorite parts of Star Wars. Anakin had MAJOR abandonment issues after being taken from his mother at a young age, losing Qui-Gon, and watching his mother die. All Anakin wanted was to loved. He felt oppressed by the Jedi for refusing him a place on the council, and the higher ups had issues with him being there (Yoda said he was too old, Windu didn't like his arrogance or the prophecy). He was also raised by Obi-Wan, who was barely an adult when he had to play the role of both a father and a teacher to young Anakin. He is constantly called young and an apprentice by other Jedi, and is under constant pressure to be a great Jedi. However, he doesn't really want that. He wants his mother's love, and he latches onto Padme as a surrogate due to her presence in his childhood and her nature. Padme is a very loving and maternal person, and it's exactly what he sees in her. The fear of going through the pain of losing his mother again is something he will not go through again, and if that means killing the people who stifled him, took him away from his mother (whom they did nothing to save), and tried to kill the one person who made him feel powerful and in control of his life, so be it. Anakin is blinded by the promises of Palpatine, and starts to see the Dark Side as a new path he can take towards power and greatness.
Vader's actions between the trilogies is interesting. In the comics, he shows no regard or respect for anyone besides the Emperor, and starts fights with imperial officers just to get a fight. He is a man with nothing left to lose, and it shows. After finding out that Padme's child survived, he suddenly has hope again. Luke isn't just an apprentice to him, it's his chance at having a family again. It also serves to distance himself further from the Jedi, who even after death denied him a family again. Finding out about Leia as his daughter would be the same thing again. It's when he sees Luke being tortured by the Emperor that Vader finally realizes what happened to him. Luke is all that remains of Padme, and he won't lose her again. So he kills the man who trained him and saved him to save his wife's legacy. His final wish is to see his face one last time with his own eyes, and to die in peace, because he doesn't feel worthy of living anymore. He had done so much wrong in his life, and knew the New Republic would not allow him to live anyways, so better to die looking upon his son.
This commentary is hilarious:
“Ok we’re riding dragons now”
General Grievous loses his hand, “oh this guys a noob” 😂😂😂
count dooku taught him in the art of sucking and losing
They really did make him a noob. Which is a crying shame, when you realize how badass his first ever appearance in Clone Wars (the 2D short series) was
@@jordinagel1184 Even though he was Nerfed in the Filoni Series, Grievous was still the Most Deadly Jedi Hunter in the Galaxy. Still his first Appearance gives me Shivers to this day.
@@jordinagel1184 tbh everyone’s power level got wanked super hard in that series to the point where it was just rule of cool above anything else
And honestly grievous losing is really more of a credit to how powerful Obi wan is
Also TBF Obi-Wan specifically sent due to his fighting style and experience with grievous
"he was deceived by a lie...." That shows that Obi Wan at least "understands" what happened to Anakin. That's good. he doesn't just suddenly consider him damaged and evil.
In fairness to Anakin, he was lied to by a lot of people including the Jedi and Obi Wan specifically. Unfortunately the movies don't tell the whole story and make his turn to the dark side so quick and easy.
@@crankfastle8138 But the very important difference if that Obi Wan and the Jedi do not believe that THEY were "lying" to Anakin. It all goes back to the very fundamental flaw of the Jedi training. THEY are ALWAYS right because they are the Jedi. Thyey're so arrogant in their own superiority that Dokuu slipped right by them AND a Sith lord was under their noses for decades before they knew anything. They got complacent and it got them killed.
@@crankfastle8138 Agreed. Star Wars fans would be wise to read the _Revenge of the Sith_ novelization, which I consider the most important single Star Wars volume, that is, for those seeking a greater insight into George Lucas' vision for the Saga. The film alone portrays merely the basics, making some facets of the story and characters more difficult to fully grasp.
@@crankfastle8138 The Clone Wars series, seems to help fill in the blanks. And it extends Anakin's journey. So I guess watching the movies seem like Anakin switched sides too fast. But watching The Clone Wars in between makes the journey seem longer and more detailed.
"So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause" is one of my favourite lines in cinema history
ikr sounds like a fascist dictator george lucas really did a good job depicting such a horrible ideology in space terms
@Antonio-Gransciyou realize this was all happening before 9/11?? 😂
This was all showing Germany before WW2 when a certain party started taking power.
@@repeter Think again...
@@CT2507 phantom menace came out in 1999. So unless years before writing the script he predicted 9/11 then I've already thought about it and I'm right. Simple search could have saved yourself.
@@repeter I was responding to your:
"This was all showing Germany before WW2 when a certain party started taking power."
Not the 9/11 part.
"I just want him to be dead!"
Sidious: "Gooooood. Gooooood. Embrace your hatred!"
Let the hate flow through you! (cackles manically)
Lmfaoo
There is an animated series called The Clone Wars that tells the story of how Anakin becomes evil more in detail.
The most interesting thing about The Clone Wars however, is that it makes you wonder if the Jedi really are the good guys or not. There is a TH-cam video called "How Liberty Dies: The Politics of Star Wars" that is really worth checking out.
they are the good guys in theory, but they had to do some bad things to return to doing good. In war there are no good guys, just more or less evil ones. This is what makes it much easier for Palpatine to convince both Anakin and the Republic the Jedi are evil.
This is one of the most pure reviews for episode 3. Always fun to see someone react to my childhood favorite for the first time.
Well deserved and well described. SWTCW is one of the best animated shows hands down. Heart breaking.
Correction: The best Star Wars animated show, Rebels and Bad Batch are great too
Clone wars made episode 3 so much more heartbreaking
To this day, Vader's birth and first breath is still the most intense cinema moment I've ever experienced. A 800 places cinema was SILENT AS A CEMETARY until the iconic breathing. And everyone tensed and their seats, getting chills. I heard a general whispering like 'and so Anakin Skywalker really became Darth Vader'
The cinema I saw it in - on opening night, burst out laughing when Vader went “Nooooo”
*Luke's birth. It's framed so that Padme takes her last breath as cyborg Vader takes his first.
Yep. I also was ecstatic when he shows up in Rogue One, which was an excellent movie by itself.
@@ChrisRowe Yup, same for me when I saw it at the theater. I never particularly loved Star Wars, but even I was amazed at how much damage the prequels did, especially to Vader. Anakin was so badly written and the transformation to Vader so dumb and forced, I couldn't help but laugh out loud at this scene.
And then they ruined it with the Noooooooo!
Fun fact: in the "making of..." special features, they said that the final fight between Anakin and Obi- wan was filmed without any timing or frame rate shenanigans: "they trained that hard, and they *are* that fast." Great scene of two sword masters going all-out balls-to-the-wall full tilt against each other.
It's 30 minutes of them spinning lightsabers at nothing with no emotional content to the fight.
@@anonamatron Bruh it was literally at each other you are smoking some other kush
@@Real_Genji In the story it was obviously at each other, but in the reality behind the movie, the actors just spin their sabers around like dildos.
Yeah but it was dumb because if you even get close to a little bit of lava your hair will singe right off and you'll start to get burned severely. If you're right above a lava flow, you're going to be on fire. It's many times hotter than an oven.
Cassie... your reaction to this was very spot on ... Now you must see Rogue One... it simply bridges the gap in a great way, between episodes 3 and 4...
Rogue one was the only good movie after episode 3 was made. The Jedi trilogy that Disney made was god awful
Clone wars
Imagine, i watched the movies for the first time during Covid without knowing ANYTHING about Star Wars, only knew that Vader was the vilain in the old movies, but nothing else (not even that there was a Luke + Leia Skywalkers).
The fact here is that instead of starting with episode IV, i decided to watch them in chronological order, therefore i started with the Phantom Menace....
I could not believe what i was watching when i got to The Revenge of the Sith, i was loving Anakin´s evolution as a Jedi, and thought he was going to be the one fighting Vader in Episodes IV-VI... trust me, it took me weeks to recover from this movie, but still love to recall how i surprised i was when watching it....
So lucky !! I would pay so much to be able to forget everything about SW and watch it from I to VI
It's pretty obvious, but not knowing absolutely nothing about a movie makes it extremely (seriously, extremely) better. I watched the 9 movies like 3 weeks ago and it was good but i knew pretty much every key plot point (but not the big picture and the general plot).
And it takes A LOT from the experience
@@SpikeyKactus me too
Glad you’re part of the Star Wars gang 🤟🏻💯
The missing piece that's tripping you up from understanding Anakin after he becomes Vader, when you're like "but he knows this isn't true," is that the dark side is inherently corrupting. Once you let it in, it changes you and twists you. Once he started using the dark side, you see how quickly he went from "save Padme" to "rule the galaxy." That's why.
Yeah the darkside is like an drug, their were lots of hints about this in Ep 2, where Anakin expresses that he doesn't think the senate works, and that something like an democratic dictatorship would be better for the galaxy. It's just that when he started using the darkside more these feelings about a dictatorship, his mistreatment of the Jedi, and his cravings of power that he's been trying to resist increase by 5.
He makes the same offer to Luke in ESB. "Join me and together we can rule the galaxy as father and son."
I think deep down he knew exactly what kind of person Palpatine was, but he didn't believe he could defeat him on his own.
@@skywalkerorder2170 What's interesting about that is Palpatine has been grooming him throughout that period. I wonder how much those authoritarian sympathies back then were original thoughts or evidence of Palpatine's poison dripping in his ear.
I think maybe , if Padme had agreed to stay with Anakin, the Darth Vader side of him may have already been cooking up a plan to overthrow Sidious, and acts become Supreme Chancellor, and perhaps he and Padme WOULD have restored the democratic Republic ....just a thought . All Sith Lords are betrayed by their apprentices eventually...it's kind of a Sith rule
I just finished watching the first six reaction videos. Watching the journey from “meh, they are just pew pew movies” to the passionate emotional investment by the end was spectacular. It made my heart smile watching someone fall in love with this universe.
i love how christopher lee is such a good actor there was no cgi for his dismemberment, he's just that good, he got up and walked away after, fully formed
One of Vader's most emotional moments was in the comics after the first death star was destroyed. Vader ordered Boba Fett to hunt down and kill the pilot who destroyed the death star, (Luke Skywalker). Boba Fett failed but returned to Vader with a name... Skywalker. Anakin realized not only did Padme give birth but that Sidious misled him about padme's death.
no wonder why he yeeted him off at about chapter 6
Well, all Sidious said was "It seems in your anger, you killed her". He said the truth and didn't mislead Anakin unless I am very much mistaken.
@@jollycrossbones663 what palpatine meant by that was anakin killed padme with the force choke out of anger.
@@jessekeetley7237 I know, my point was that Palpatine didn't mislead Anakin about Padme's death as the op suggested.
@@jollycrossbones663 he did. Padme clearly wasnt dead. Sidius lied to Vader, like he had been lying to him the whole time. Just look at this expression after Vader starts losing it. He's feeding his anger.
If you think about it, why would Padme give up if she is about to have children? it makes no sense ("she's perfectly fine") as the droid says. My theory is Palpatine was killing her.
10:36 "Nothing. Again. He's like a girl."
I AM DECEASED. This is why I love watching reaction videos. I've seen this stuff so many times (often a long time ago), I forgot what happened the first time I watched it, and it's fun to see someone discover the joy/horror of it
Anakin: I saw your laser sword. Only a Jedi carries that weapon.
Qui-Gon: Perhaps I killed a Jedi and took it from him.
Anakin: I don't think so. _No one_ can kill a Jedi.
Qui-Gon and everyone else: ...I wish that were so.
👍👌😂😂🤣
Hahaha, joy/horror is right.
You know whats also very good to bringing you back to an earlier time in your life with this franchise? I went to Disney for the first time this last February. And I have to admit, the Star Wars area really captured the flavor of the movies and made you feel as if you were actually in that world.
It's not the love what brings Anakin Anakin to the darkside.
It's the lack of it.
Jedis hate or fear him. Windu shows him all the disrespect that he can every time he has a moment for it.
They didn't let him save his mother
The only jedi who cared for him is dead
And the only thing he has left is Padme who is gonna die if he doesn't do something.
With all this is easy to bring you to the other side.
Great reaction. Took me watching a few of your videos to appreciate what makes your reaction videos so great.... You're not narrating the movie, you're narrating the emotions. This is what a "reaction" video is supposed to be.
This is exactly it
Palpatine: "Dew it!"
Cassie: "Dew it!"
Annakin: *immediately does it*
Cassie: *GAAASSPP!!!* "He did it!"
Classic PiB!
th-cam.com/video/C-oNWtAKNfk/w-d-xo.html
Not "Dr. Pepper it!" ?? 😋😂
@@dcXero I was hoping this would be GG. Everyone needs to see this.
And his Sith voice comes out
Dew the Do. Mt. Dew.
The novel version of this movie is extremely well written. I mean, just look at this: "And you rage and scream and reach through the Force to crush the shadow who has destroyed you, but you are so far less now than what you were, you are more than half machine, you are like a painter gone blind, a composer gone deaf, you can remember where the power was but the power you can touch is only a memory, and so with all your world-destroying fury it is only droids around you that implode, and equipment, and the table on which you were strapped shatters, and in the end, you cannot touch the shadow. In the end, you do not even want to. In the end, the shadow is all you have left. Because the shadow understands you, the shadow forgives you, the shadow gathers you unto itself-And within your furnace heart, you burn in your own flame."
I can't help but feel you missed the rawest line. "You killed her, finally when you could have saved her, when you could have gone away with her, when you could have been thinking about her, you were only thinking about yourself... it is in this blazing moment that you finally understand the trap of the dark side, the final cruelty of the Sith - because now your self is all you will ever have.
I tear up every time I see the opening scene and think of the prologue: "Though this is the end of the age of heroes, it has saved the best for last". I love Stover's writing so much.
As an aside, I HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY reccomend Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor (also by Stover) which is in my opinion a highly superior rendition of Luke Skywalker dealing with darkness in the aftermath of the originalt trilogy (far better than what the sequels gave us). I cried reading that book.
Stover is a genius. I think even if he wrote something connected to the sequel trilogy it would still come out well.
Amazing writing
My favorite video reaction in youtube, of a great movie, the effect of a well made masterpiece reflected in that intense emotions, thanks for sharing it with us. Hoping to see a lot more. Congrats
I'm so proud honestly. Look how far she's come: from knowing nothing about Star Wars to guessing plot points fans have been pondering over for years. So proud 🥲
Cringe 😬
@@MisterDevos the only thing more "cringe" is people who unironically say "cringe"
@@MisterDevos why you here then
@@MisterDevos True.. Very True 🤦
This movie is so much sadder when you've watched the clone wars series and it shows how much obi wan and Anakin have been through together. Also how good Anakin was and even had an apprentice and his bond and separation from his apprentice which also contributed to his progression to the dark side.
I disagree, Anakin while a better character, isn’t portrayed accurately to the source material
@connorhaley3190 well, like it or not, it's canon.
I think Anakin and Asoka had a thing going on in Clone Wars. And Padme amidala and Obiwan also spent a lot of time off planet . Conspiracy theory: what if : Luke and Leia were Obiwan kids? OOOOOHHHhhhhh😂
@@Xis-ql5pj wasn't ahsoka like...14 in clone wars?
Amidala was queen of naboo at the age of 12 or so....so ya, in SW universe it appears the kids had to grow up FAST @@djlu3011
Anakin trusts Palpatine because he has been mentoring him since childhood, supporting him, instilling the idea in his head that he is the best Jedi /chosen one and because of this, pride gradually manifested in him...(During the Clone Wars, Anakin also received the rank of general, not to mention the fact that he became a master and got himself a student, I personally do not know whether he got it only because of his merits and military exploits or the chancellor also helped there and was involved...Just by the standards of the Jedi is a very young age, mmm 25 years?!) Palpatin replaced his father, Obi-wan his brother (interestingly, Anakin thought he was his father, and Obi, on the contrary, perceived him as a brother) And Anakin did not switch to the dark side "in 10 minutes" and "just like this" his doubts about the code and the methods of the order grew over the years (as did Qui Gon, Dooku, Saifo Dias, among others) and the turning point in his life and in his psyche was also the expulsion of his padawan Ahsoka (see the animated series Clone Wars ...)
If Qui Gon hadn’t been killed, I doubt Anakin would’ve turned to the Dark side. He was the father figure Anakin needed.
@@MeanLaQueefa 100% They would have found a common language considering that both doubted the methods of the Jedi (although something worse could have happened and perhaps Qui Gon would have become a Sith ...)
Qui gon jinn is the true father figure
Obi wan failed
Anakin was meant to turn, no matter what, he was chosen and destroyed the Sith. Sequel’s don’t count, sorry Sequel fans.
“I wanted love to save them all.”
Your optimism is so refreshing and cheering, even as we get to watch you growing to appreciate more complex and diverse types of stories. I think that’s what sets you ahead of other reactors. Don’t ever change! ❤️
Agreed! And love does redeem Anakin, it just takes a long time.
@@adamwarlock1 There can be no redemption for such a person.
You really have the nerve to tell her "you growing to appreciate more complex and diverse types of stories". WTF...
I hope that was nice trolling. If you think this wooden empty nonsensical schlock by committee with a contempt for children is a "complex and diverse type of story" (what does diverse mean?) then - please- never watch Tele-Tubbies. It will fry your brain. Just a friendly warning.
Have a great day.
@@j.m.w.5064 Really? These movies have been loved by millions, maybe billions, over decades!?!? This franchise has been influenced by movies that have also been highly praised; Thus, In turn, so has Star Wars. Plus, Darth Vader is known as one of the best cinematic villains EVER! Wait, if you feel that way...then why the hell are you even in a comment section for a reaction to a movie in a series you feel is, "wooden, empty & nonsensical schlock by committee with a contempt for children"? I hope that was nice trolling; have a great day!
@@shugaroony You say, explicitly contradicting the story itself as George Lucas wrote and intended. You explicitly contradict reality as well. If there is no redemption for people such as Anakin, there is no redemption for anyone, because everyone has their own demons and sins they must overcome, and some need far more help and loving-kindness to do so than others. The only people who are beyond redemption as those who refuse to be helped and healed.
Sad fact: Anakin was awake for most of his operation. Every needle, every cut, every skin removed and flesh he felt it all. The Dark side feeds on pain.
Don't forget the intentional negative properties of his suit
@@ralphwiggum6385 the pain from the suit keeps him angry
@@sgtjohnson correctomundo! 👍
I feel like none of that is in any of the movies. Are you reading novels and comics and assuming they're canon? Because they're explicitly NOT canon, there was an announcement and everything. From now on, if it isn't in the 9 films or any of the recent Disney stuff, it doesn't count.
And the fact he is trapped in the suit just as he was trapped by Palpatine's lies.
"Anakin, you're breaking my heart"
Me too, when you say it like that 😭😭😭
Sixteen years onwards this film still stabs at the heart.
I’m sure everyone who loved this film is keen to see the new Kenobi series.
Not me! How can you make a series about Obi-wan going into hiding while Luke grows up? IMO, Disney is just reaching for ideas at this point.
@@markbartoszek8585 because obi wans story between episode 3 and 4 has never been told in detail. I do agree they are clutching at straws but that’s the fault of rian Johnson and episode 8. But obiwans story is valid in my opinion. There’s a big gap there that isn’t told
@@markbartoszek8585 Lots of things could have happened between then
@@markbartoszek8585
Because Obi Wan is probably the most interesting and mysterious character of them all
@@nissy9220 Rian literally has nothing to do with this
“He’s probably planting these dreams in him!”
It’s so funny you say this, because the irony of his dreams, is that if Anakin simply ignored those dreams he had, Padme never would’ve died, Republic wouldn’t have fallen to the extent it did. By acting on his nightmares, Anakin essentially brought that future into existence
One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it
Palpatine/Sidious actually was manipulating Anakins mind, giving him little pushes to confuse him and make him go down the path of the dark side. Since Sidious created Anakin (according to literature), he was able to control everything around him and even sent the Jedi to find him (unknowingly)
Its called a Causality Loop: To get/change a result you think is coming you decide to do something to avoid or encourage it, potentially creating the problem in the first place. Not guaranteed but likely, as intervention no matter the original motive rarely goes 100% as planned. A leads to B leads to C leads to A.
But his mother did, after he ignored dreams about her... so from his point it was certain that Padme will die.
Fear leads to the Dark Side
Her reactions to every scene is very genuine and so adorable.
You must realize that yes, Palpatine manipulated Anakin, but more importantly he manipulated the Jedi. He used them against themselves. And by doing so Anakin was never really accepted or trusted by them, which is why he could believe the lie. Remember, from the beginning they didn't want him, and the person he respected was giving him everything he wanted. A cautionary tale for our real lives.
Cassie: noticed how the ship that flies Padme to Mustafar to convince Anakin, is shaped like an angel? Well, the very first line between them in episode 1 was : "are you an angel?". She is indeed the angel who travels to hell just to try to bring him back.
Very interesting.
“This guy is a noob.” While using the sabers taken from the countless Jedi he killed with his bare droid hands.
He gets blasted away like another other droid or clone trooper so
bare.
I think the reason other jedis got defeated was because they weren't trained against quadruple wielders. Obi Wan is experienced and he focussed on reducing the hands immediately
"While using the sabers taken from the countless Jedi he killed with his bear droid hands."
We never see Grievious take down any Jedi in the movies. We only see his his robot henchmen handing him Anakin’s and Obi Wan’s lightsabers. For all we know his lackeys have done the dirty work every time.
@@philliplozano7587 u see it in both clone war shows
Anakin: "I think chancellor Palpatine is a Sith Lord."
Mace Windu: "A Sith Lord? We must move quickly if the Jedi order is to survive."
...continues to move very slowly, as if nothing of importance had happend.
Should have gone to the War Councik and forced them to issue Order 65. Should have used non-Jedi and the senate to go after Palpatine. Would’ve been better optics if Jedi, the GAR, and leading Senators declared Palpatine a traitor. And no Order 66 if 65 in effect first.
Perhaps him say to preserve the Jedi order may have not been the best thing to say.
@@Fordo007 That would only have worked if they knew about the orders. The only forewarning they could have had was 5555 trying to uncover the secret about why the clones were all so obedient, but we all know how that ended.
@@tau-5794 the Clone Commandos brought it up off hand. The contingency orders were known… the chips forcing obedience weren’t. The Jedi just never expected that it could happen.
Yea, Mr. Plinkett pointed this out, its because all the blue screens, they cant move that much
*Anakin starts strangling Obi-Wan*
"NOOOOO ANAKIN THINK OF YOUR MOTHER 😱😭😱😭!!!"
Goddamn I love this channel soo much 😊
If you notice, Anakin's first breath as Vader happens at the same time Padme breaths her last...They had a strong connection in the Force. There is a fan theory that Anakin accidentally kills her trying to save himself by sapping her life... Q_Q
That'd be really fucking dark but that's a pretty damn cool theory. Another theory is when the mask is being put on Anakin while he's on the operating table you can see him mouth something. The theory is Anakin being good was desperately saying "Help me Padme" but as Padme dies and the mask is put on Vader kills Anakin inside completely and no good will come back until Anakin realizes his children are alive and need his help so he fights Vader off eventually winning at the end to save Luke. I love Star Wars lol.
Cassie: "I have a bad feeling about this."
Yeah, you aren't the only one!
"We're in a space war. Pew pew pew." That should be the tagline for the entire series.
Yes. It's called STAR Wars for a reason, am I right?
Bail Organa the senator who adopted Leia His Wife is Alderaan Royalty.
Pew Pew Plants.
"What if the democracy we thought we were protecting no longer exists, and we're serving the very evil we swore to destroy?"
That hit close to home.
Unfortunately, many republics slide later into Empires unfortunately. Its much easier to rule as a dictator vs remain a democracy within the rules that preserve it.
@@ShawNshawNthis is why constitutional monarchy is a more democratic system
Mace Windu: "We must move quickly if the Jedi Order is to survive."
*Walks casually*
Yeah that’s one of the big issues with the prequels. Too many exposition scenes are just characters walking casually down a corridor.
@@MikeVernonProd cry
He's clearly walking to his ship.
@@MikeVernonProd Still better than Rise of Skywalker.
@@MikeVernonProd Why run? In modern movies the always run and it makes no sense.
One detail I loved, the last time Anakin and Obi-Wan saw each other before the fight.
Anakin was in the shadows, and Obi-Wan was in the light
The moment when anakin says to palps, His fate will be the same as ours, and you realize all three died on the death star
well, different death stars
@@TJ-qx2fk FATE WAS THE SAME :)
@Kristopher Chavez - I figured he brought "balance" right here in episode 3. Up to this point in time, there were THOUSANDS of Jedi, but only two Sith. By the end of this episode, there were two of each (Palps & Vader - Kenobi & Yoda)... Presto... BALANCE!
Tariq Jan fates were one.
🤯
22:23 "I would believe that love could turn him around, but I know it doesn't" Here it doesn't, but his love for Luke is what turns him around in the end.
The sith have no room in their minds for compassion and love, they only think of themselves. In the end the biggest deceit of the dark side was that it tricked Anakin into believing that he did it for Padme, when in truth the dark side only gave him room for himself and his quest for power. And Palpatine knew this and used it, he used Anakin’s love to destroy him and turn him into his lap dog. It’s tragic.
If you think about it, the Jedis have no room for compassion and love neither. Obi wan and Anakin were the weird ones in that circle.
But just maybe, if Padme had agreed to stay with Anakin , he WOULD have killed Palpatine and together Padme and Anakin would have restored the Republic. It IS kind of a rule that in order to be one Sith Lord, the apprentice MUST betray and kill his master
When Anakin went to the Dark Side it wasn’t “just like that”. That small naming ceremony was the culmination of years of manipulation from the Emperor (Palpatine) through Anakin’s dreams, emotions and the situations he was put in. If Qui Gon lived that would have never had happened..I think because he wouldn’t have just recited the Jedi doctrine to him when he had emotional problems dealing with his mother, he would listened to him and tried to work through them together like a father figure. Obi Won was like an older brother who didn’t have the knowledge of the living force - being present and reacting to situations not by what the Jedi have always done but by what felt correct. 🤷🏻♂️
I mean we get that through extended lore like clone wars, books and such but if you only have seen the movies themselfes you kinda don't see those years of manipulation. That's where the criticism of the prequels mostly stems from; I mean especially episode 3 hits really hard after watching the season 7 clone wars finale but without that and a lot of context... Anakin went from Jedi to childmurderer in like a couple hours in-universe time
@@justtheaverageone3840 Yeah I can see how someone would feel that way but throughout the prequels we see Anakin having trouble dealing with his emotions and Palpatine it seems being the only one to actually talk with him about this. While talking with Anakin slowly leading him away from the Jedi gradually casting doubt in his mind with the way the Jedi do things offering solutions by way of the dark side, not openly until later. 🤷🏻♂️
This is exactly correct. I know a lot of people will blame the Jedi for Anakin's fall and they certainly do bear some responsibility but let's not forget that Anakin was rebellious from a young age, even on his home planet of Tatooine. As a slave, it was in his nature to have a rebellious nature. However, Qui Gon was the father figure he never had who would've guided him on the right path and that's why his death at the hands of Maul in Phantom Menace is so important and meaningful. As David Fioni pointed out, the reason why Duel of The Fates was chosen as the musical score for that duel is because it was the battle for one of two fates for Anakin. If Qui Gon lived, Anakin's path towards becoming a Jedi master would be a certainty. Sadly he was killed and therefore his path towards becoming a Sith was set in motion. That, coupled with his visions of death and him feeling that Palpatine was the only one who understood him is what ultimately led him towards his downfall. Let's not forget that there is a 10 year period in between the events of Phantom Menace and Attack of The Clones, so there's no telling just how much of a relationship Anakin and Palpatine developed in that time. Lastly, Obi Wan agreed to train Anakin, not out of love he had for the young boy but as a favor for his dying master. He, himself was young and inexperienced at the time and never became the father figure Anakin desperately needed. Qui Gon would've been able to talk to Anakin about his feelings and his visions as he himself was a bit of a maverick and could see right through the Jedi Order's bullshit about being peacekeepers and yet engaging in endless wars and politics.
Yeah, but core reason is that dark side is kind of like drug. It's just not about someone "snapping" and becoming evil on their own. As far as I know most agreed upon concept of dark side is that it amplifies and takes your negative emotions and turns it into power. Also moment he he cut Widu's arm, for him it was culmination of all the things that had happened to him, and there was no going back in his mind.
I love that Qui Gon vowed to train him but when he was killed Obi Wan took this roll. It would be like a Father dying and the eldest brother having to raise the youngest. Thrusting him into a roll he was unprepared for.
The moment Anakin is alone on Mustafar and shedding a tear, it's like then he knows he's resigned himself to servitude... He's trapped by the emperor and he is lost..
It's the most powerful example of a tragic hero's fall story... So much is missed obviously from the Clone Wars series but that can't really be taken into full account
Great reaction - very perceptive and getting a lot of things other reactors don't always pick up on straight away. Please consider Rogue One before the sequel trilogy as it it acts as a bridge between the prequels and the Original Trilogy.
YES!!!! Cassie, you need to watch "Rogue One", and make sure you have a box of Kleenex with you. And don't ever watch "Solo". That was a piece of shit.
Rogue One is in my top three.
Absolutely agree, Rogue one is the only good Star Wars movie that Disney made in my opinion, otherwise the animated clone war series and forget the rest.
@@johnkillingsworth5135 Agree Rogue One is the only decent SW film Disney have produced. I actually got the SW 'feels' watching that one at the cinema - the rest either left me cold or made me feel a tad nauseous....have to say Mandalorian is up there alongside Rogue One for feels too thou.
@@charlesballard5251 Yes - Solo is a terrible movie IMO. I don't get why some people love it so much, completely ruins Hans mystique & does in such a lame way.
If you think she is shocked, imagine my face when watching this movie, after 6 seasons of clone wars. But man is this a great Star Wars movie. A little bit let down by the prequel problems like acting and so on, but overall, Anakin's fall is an amazingly dark and tragic journey. Someone who fights for love, and doesn't want to lose anyone, ends up becoming a dark lord, who is unable to love, and has lost everyone. It also makes his final moments in Return of The Jedi, so much more heartwarming. Despite all that monster has done, Luke puts his life on the line, and leaves it up to him, and he ends up doing the right thing.
Actually, love DOES save Anakin! But not until Episode 6. And it wasn't Padmé, it was Luke. It took decades but love did triumph in the end.
And let's put it this way; if Anakin/Vader hadn't committed all these terrible things, already on the first day on the Dark Side even, then his redemption in ROTJ wouldn't be that special, now would it? Now it also makes so much more sense why Vader/Anakin hesitates to save Luke for so long. That's a LOT of Dark Side hold on him to break through & out of, remembering who he actually was & used to be, & to be brave again to not only risk his life but to even give it.
I really love how ROTS & ROTJ in a lot of ways mirrors each other. The father & the son faces the same evil, the same evil person, & all the temptations & fears that come with it, & they chose so totally different. True, Luke did tap into the Dark Side for a moment, allowed it to take over. But, unlike his father, Luke cast the Dark Side away just as swiftly. Luke risked loosing everyone he loves very much, too, yet chose to rather die than to give in. Luke had a deeper strength that his father never really had. Anakin was always a slave, in one way or another; as a child, a slave to the Jedi rules of no attachments (hence why he broke it) & a slave to Palpatine & the Dark Side. Luke was always free. And that's the key, or one of them, how he dared to face evil & tell it to go F itself. I really don't understand Palpatine's thinking in how he could believe he could turn Luke when Anakin was always more fragile & easier to manipulate, & yet he had to work more than a decade to turn him, how did he expect to turn Luke in one evening? But, as Luke told him; "Your overconfidence is your weakness."
Lesson: parent-child love > Romantic love
And then the sequels come along and ruin everything
@@zeropoint216 hahaha best comment of 11.12.21 Bravo Sir!
Seeing Sidious electrocuting Luke reminded Vader of Mace Windu's last moments and his failure to see what Darth Sidious was actually doing. Anakin's last line before disarming Mace and fully turning to the Darkside was NOOO. Darth Vader's last line before turning back to the Lightside and yeeting Darth Sidious into the Pit of Doom, NOOO!!!
Yes, but to be honest, by the time he faced Luke Palpatine seemed either dead bored or much too sure of himself. I mean all he really did was be like: "Strike me down with anger and you'll join the Dark Side!" OOOkay then, why are you telling him exactly what he shouldn't do to remain good? Luke had no idea about that! I think that if Palpatine put even half the effort he did with Anakin in turning Luke, Luke wouldn't stand a chance! But then of course we wouldn't have a happy ending and I really loved that, even if they had to turn Palpy half-senile in order to get it! But I wouldn't go so far as to say that Luke was stronger than Anakin and that's why he didn't turn.
"His fate will be the same as ours"
Obi Wan: Dies on a battlestation.
Palpatine: Dies on a battlestation (in my heart, he died there).
Anakin: Dies on a battlestation;
_"I've died before."_
We do not discuss the sequels
He did died on a battlestation.
Anyone saying he died elsewhere is just referring to the worst bad trip fan fiction crap.
@@skylermaves7272 ... to your detriment.
@@mattrismatt I will admit, The Force Awakens is the only one of the sequels I actually don't mind but Last Jedi ruined the sequels for me and while I admire Rise of Skywalker for what it tried to do (considering LJ) it couldn't fix the damage that Last Jedi caused
I myself had the same reaction as she did when I first saw this episode. "How can Anakin turn to the dark side so easily?" It all makes more sense after seeing seven seasons of The Clone Wars!
The reason Anakin seemed to give in so quickly at the end is that the Dark Side bent then broke Anakin's will with the help of the emperor. Remember what Vader said to Luke, you don't know the power of the dark side "I must obey."
One of the reason Obi-Wan is my favorite character is because of how loyal to the Jedi he is while still doing un-Jedi things. The biggest example being his love for Anakin.
George Lucas already had the Star Wars story in his head in the early 70s, but realized it was so long that he had to break it down into several movies. He decided to start with Episode 4 because he felt it would have the most zip with a general audience. He felt that if he actually started with Episode 1, it wouldn't have the traction among the studio execs to go any further.
Cassie, if you really want to check out Episodes 7, 8, and 9, go ahead. You might even like them, but personally, I didn't. They showed no respect for the original Star Wars story or the original characters. Rogue One is really good, and DOES pay respect to what's gone before. Rogue One is kind of like Episode 3.9, as it happens just before Episode 4.
While R1 is definitely the best SW movie the new regime has put out so far, that's more of a "by default" achievement for me... and I almost feel as though people are starting to overrate it in light of how bad those other 4 movies were. I mean, it has some of the same glaring problems: bland characters, a sometimes overly convoluted plot, more contemporary-sounding dialogue (as opposed to the stylized '30s/'40s movie speak of Eps. I-VI), the undercutting of certain story details from I-VI, and painfully self-aware winks to the OT, to state a few without spoiling anything. Still, I'll give it props for actually adding new elements (which was a big thing for Lucas for each new movie) in terms of spacecraft and militia instead of merely slapping a new coat of paint on various OT items... and the Battle of Scarif segment is still the closest the new regime has come so far to actually feeling like those 6 Lucas-made movies.
He had some of the ideas early on, but Anakin and Vader were separate characters until he was writing Empire Strikes Back.
Also, about Leia being Luke's sibling, was a last minute addition, to wrap up loose ends.
You can find hints of what he originally had in mind in old publication materials and sort of piece together a rough outline of what he actually had in mind for the prequels when the original trilogy was in production. There's some old Marvel Comics annual from '79 that talks about the creation of Darth Vader and it does mention in the passing that he was crippled in a fight with Obi-Wan over lava so he definitely had at least that in mind back then already.
I do wish he had followed those early notes a bit more closely; in them, Luke or at least Leia was like four years old already when Anakin turned to the dark side, which is why we got that line in Return where Leia barely remembers her mother.
@@asperhes So you don't even believe the idea that Lucas had an 250+ page script and took one third of it to make A New Hope, as well as taking the ending of Jedi and putting it onto A New Hope? Of course his story and script changed quite a bit, it was a general outline or draft of where things were supposed to go, he didn't have the details figured out yet.
Yeah, 7,8,9 can not really be treated as true sequels. I think they came out too late to be true sequels of Return of the Jedi. I think the Timothy Zahn (Heir to the Empire) EU novels trilogy would have made more sense as the basis for movie sequel plot lines.
7,8,9 recycling the same ideas - they are kind of "Kelvin Universe" Star Wars in the same sense the JJ StarTreks were not quite what you expect from Trek even while trying to honour the original concept but failing (in the opinion of many fans).
Agree with Rogue One but Solo not quite what you would expect as he was really a minor character (he was not the focus of the OT).
Maybe it would have been too obvious and easy just to have a movie of Solo on smuggling missions, rescuing Chewbacca, winning the Falcon in a card game and running up a debt to Jabba the Hutt and proving the Falcon is the fasted hunk of junk in the galaxy.
Cassie: "If anyone tries to hurt babies"
Later, "He killed the kids"
At this point you should just know that anything bad you point out early tends to happen. Be careful with your future vision.
Anakin was probably already dealing with ptsd from his years of fighting in the clone wars and that made it easier for Emperor Palpatine and the dark side to corrupt his mind. I think the reason for Anakin’s quick switch in moral character was because the dark side was already growing inside his mind, his fear of more loss in his life, and the fact that the dark side is like an intense mind altering drug that controls you the more you give in to it.
I’ll never forget hearing Vader’s first breath under the mask in theaters the first time. Chills from head to toe.
Bahahahahah "nooooooooooo!" Such emotion.....🤣
How would you react if you found out your wife is dead and you're the reason why.
The theater was packed and there wasn’t a sound. There was dead silence. No one wanted to breathe. It was chilling. He takes his first breath as Vader as Padme takes her last.
And then immediately ruined byt he cheesy NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I still love hearing Vader's breath after the end credits of Episode I, right after Anakin's Theme ends. It's so sad.
The line that gets my tears going every time is; "Master Skywalker, there are too many of them, what are we going to do?"... the Anakin lights up his lightsaber.... I watched it 21 years ago in the theater, and dozens of times since. Every time it gets me.
I think You mean 16 years ago... Unless you are from the future 😮
The kid's flinch in that scene is real. He didn't know what was going to happen, and Hayden Christensen actually scared him a bit.
Movie came out in 2005 dude. Your math is off.
Order 66 is a wound they won't let heal
Revenge of the Sith was released in 2005, not 2000
The sequels
Cassie: "You guys got to watch them."
Everyone else: You say it like it's a good thing.
Well, maybe she'll be able to see through these ersatz newer movies the same way some other reactors have (Mary Cherry, Duaffy M&S, and TimotheeReacts immediately come to mind). Fingers crossed.
My favorite thing about watching her react to watching all of the Star Wars movies fresh for the first time is that she is completely not jaded about the whole franchise. Too often the worst thing about Star Wars is the fanbase and how at large no one is ever happy with the direction the series goes in one way or another. It's super refreshing to just watch someone take it all in and take it for what it's worth the good and the bad.
After watching Clone Wars, seeing the once great warrior, hero, friend, and mentor Anakin was before becoming Darth Vader really makes what Obi-Wan told Luke hit even harder: Darth Vader murdered Anakin Skywalker.
Just wait till Twilight Of The Apprentice
Lucas murdered the script...
The movie Clone Wars almost murdered the entire franchise. Definitely the prequels.
@@saviourself687 And Clone Wars helped it, if you look at it right.
"Shouldn't they be red?"
Well, he did steal them from all the Jedi he's murdered, so no.
Last I checked in Canon Vaders lightsaber crystal is also stolen from a Jedi Lightsaber.
IIRC it used to be that Sith used synthetic lightsaber crystals that always turned out red, while natural ones that the Jedi used came in a multitude of colours, I think that got retconned to "Sith have red lightsabers because the dark side of the force eventually turns the crystal red."
@@dernwine yeah in canon they have to bleed the crystals making them red
You have to watch Rogue One: A Star Wars Story after this one. It takes place between Episodes III and IV.
Then Mando. Then Clone Wars (both). Then Rebels...after which, your turn to the Dark Side will be COMPLETE!
and it's EXCELLENT!
“You have to” U in charge issit 😭
Rouge one is the best Disney made Star wars so far
Yep I believe that's the last Star Wars film they ever made... Good thing it ended there
19:10 For those who aren't aware, at this moment, Hayden Christensen yelled boo to startle the kid.
For real? 😂 😂 😂
Was order 66 Anakin fault because mortis arc said this movie was inevitable and father erased him memory
Was order 66 Anakin fault because mortis arc said this movie was inevitable and father erased him memory
who cares besides its just a movie.
18:45 The clones are conditioned from the start to follow orders, and have standing orders for expected events, one of them is order 66 which tells them the jedi are traitors that they must kill just like Vader in a way they are "more machine than man".
Revenge of The Sith makes me cry every time. Anakin broke all our hearts.
I have a theory: When Luke asked Leia if she remembered her real mother and she said she was very beautiful but sad, I believe it was a vision and not a memory and she was too young to distinguish the difference.
or maybe she was remembering her "mom" (Organa's wife).
Or maybe the story wasn't completely thought out
"if anyone hurts babies" I HAD to sit up in my chair and wait for the temple attack xD
This is the best reaction video ever. It was fascinating to watch a romantic who had just gotten into Star Wars watch this film. Having grown up on it, to me seeing it Anakin seemed like a petulant child but to a romantic it fits. Clone Wars repaired it for me as you see far better why he ends up distrusting the Jedi. I highly recommend it. You get to see much more of Obi-wan and Anakin's relationship, plus you get to meet Anakin's Padawan .
This is a romantic movie
She's watched them all in the order they were released.
New stories will flesh out the Sequel Trilogy the same way Clone Wars fleshed out the Prequels which, in case some suffer from selective amnesia, were equally hated in their time.
I so want to watch the Clone Wars, but dang, its a cartoon, an accentuated one at that. If it was more of a real cartoon, I would be more prone to watch it. Im older, so maybe thats why not. I have a friend that said the ame as you. he said just watch all the seasons an endure it, but youll come out better understanding on the other end. Maybe Ill give it a try.
@@WesMordine If retconning shit in the new Expanded Universe to make Kylo Ren seem like a poor victim to pander to his fangirls who only like him because they fancy Adam Driver, making an actual rock a character, writing a random story about everyone farting at a wedding and the like is Disney's idea of fleshing out the sequel trilogy I'd rather they didn't.
I'll always love the detail of Yoda catching Dooku's lightning but Sidious's throws him across the room. Shows how big a power difference there is.
To be fair, I think Yoda took that hit as a "Ok, now I can kick your treacherous Sith ass" move. Given how quickly he schooled the Red Robes
He was expecting Dooku's lightning, whereas this was a surprise attack.
"His fate will be the same as ours" - Obi-Wan died on a Death Star, Darth Vader did, Palpatine did ... ^^
I've never thought of that! Wow.
@@bovasi "it's like poetry it rhymes"
Different Death Stars, so it's actually not a good comment.
Doubt it's about the location, but rather how they died: All three died to the actions of Anakin
Fun fact! When Ewan McGregor said the line to Padme about seeing footage of Anakin killing younglings he covers his mouth with his hand because he couldn't stop laughing every time he said it
"The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural." Gives me chills every time. Love that opera scene.
Hey, Cassie! Well, you got wise to Palpatine before the reveal but still had a great shocked reaction! Lucas provided visual and vocal cues since "Phantom Menace" that Palpatine and Sidious were one and the same. Ian McDiarmid plays the Emperor in all the Star Wars films in which he appears. He's the one character having a total blast throughout the prequels because he's pulling everybody's strings! His seduction of Anakin is masterful.
Chronologically, "Solo" is the next to see, then "Rogue One", then "The Mandalorian", then the Sequel trilogy. See the films in that order then go back to the three animated series, "Clone Wars", "Bad Batch" and "Rebels". There are revelations in "The Mandalorian" that will make you curious to see their origins in the animated shows afterwards.
The absolute best line of the Prequel trilogy goes to Natalie Portman: "So this is how liberty dies...with thunderous applause."
Wookiees live for hundreds of years! In "Revenge of the Sith", Chewbacca is 181 years old!
It is a popular belief that Padme's life force was drained out of her and channeled into Anakin by Palpatine which is why her death and his re-birth are juxtaposed by Lucas. Therefore, Palpy is directly responsible for the death of the person he convinced Anakin he could save prompting his betrayal of the Jedi in the first place! A very cruel manipulation.
One of the Jedi Order's problems is that they had become ossified by dogma and had lost touch with their true purpose. This made them vulnerable to manipulation by the Sith and blind to their own shortcomings. Iconoclasts like Qui-Gon sought esoteric knowledge beyond ordained teachings to plumb deeper truths and were viewed as troublesome for suggesting the Order had become complacent and stagnant. The knowledge Yoda imparts to Obi-Wan at the end is his discovery of the path to immortality. His spiritual journey is chronicled in the animated "Clone Wars" when Liam Neeson returns as Qui-Gon Jinn's spirit to instruct Yoda in the deepest mysteries of the Force. Jedi immortality manifests as the Force-ghosts you see in the Classic trilogy. This was an ability unknown to the Order until Qui-Gon contacts Yoda which is why there are no Force-ghosts in the Prequel trilogy.
The Jedi are all but exterminated by Order 66 much like how the Knights Templar were rounded up on a single day, Friday the 13th, in October 1307, by order of the French King Philip IV in a series of coordinated, simultaneous arrests. Emperor Palpatine initiated a smear campaign to vilify the Jedi and expunged any mention of them from the historical record. Philip IV did the same to the Templars demonizing them with false allegations of larceny, murder, sexual perversion, sedition and Satanism that led to their mass burning at the stake with the blessing of the Papacy! Palpy achieved control of a galaxy with his scheme while Philip was simply dodging the crushing debt he owed the Order!
The clones are tragic pawns in Palpatine's scheme. They were bred by the Republic and were loyal to their creators serving through thick and thin with their Jedi Generals. The animated "Clone Wars" does a magnificent job of individualizing the troopers. However, they were engineered with a fail-safe to force them to obey executive decisions without question. Initiating Order 66 flips the switch in their brains forcibly turning them against the Jedi whom they previously would have died for. It's a horrifying betrayal not least of which to the clones themselves.
Although the Separatist leadership was led by Count Dooku, they weren't privy to the collusion between Dooku and Supreme Chancellor Palpatine. Each Sith Lord led a faction in the Clone Wars to play both sides against each other creating chaos they could manipulate to their personal advantage! The populations of the worlds which aligned with one faction or the other truly believed in their respective causes which were socioeconomic and geopolitical. The layman had no idea he was just a pawn in Palpatine's grand scheme. With the Jedi exterminated, the greatest threat to his plan was taken off the board and he sent Vader to dispose of the Separatist leadership so he could consolidate power over the organizations they represented. The Separatist worlds relied on the support of those industries and institutions so those worlds would fall in line once those support systems were firmly in the Emperor's grip.
Senator Bail Organa orders C-3PO's mind to be wiped but R2-D2's CPU is left intact. Artoo REMEMBERS EVERYTHING!
Read this one
I guessed way back in the first, but not because of any great reveal, but the fact that many EU materials including RPG books, comics, novels etc had said that the emperor was an 'unassuming senator called Palpatine', then again there was no guarantee that Lucas would stick to that as Boba Fett's origin story was originally far different being a 'former Journeyman Protector by the name of Jaster Mereel' and that didn't happen.
My head cannon has been that it wasn’t Sidious that was channeling Padme’s life force but that it was Vader himself. Anakin’s connection to her was strong and naturally became the well he drew from for life. I’ve never thought he did it knowingly, just survival instinct. Palps has always seemed fluid and uses what comes to him. And Padme’s death serves him in many ways.
This comment is amazing, truly fantastic summation!
The reveal was ruined for me in 1983 when you could send 8 upcs away for an Emporer PALPATINE figure😒
"I knew it was comming. I knew he was gonna do this. But I still feel so betrayed"
Goerge Lucas: "Yeees"
There are two things I suggest that show some clarity on Anakin's actions. First you should watch if you can the Clone Wars series as you see a lot more of Anakin's transformation and why he didn't trust the Jedi Council in it. Also, one reason why Anakin got so mad with Padme is found in the book when Obi Wan showed up. He thought earlier in the book that they were having an affair and she brought Obi wan there to kill him so they could be together.
This movie and the prequels make anakin's redemption even more satisfying
I still don't know what people mean by redemption. Palpatine said right in front of him that he wanted Luke to kill him, right?