There are some misinterpretations, but in short, everyone related to or helped WuKong suffered an ill destiny. If the celestial court knew that BaJie and Violet Spider had a daughter, they could take her hostage easily. Unlike WuKong, BaJie doesn't have the power nor method to rebel against the celestial court. The only option left for BaJie is to deny their relationship and help Wukong, who has the power to solo the court. In order to give his daughter a safer future, free of influence from the court. And here is the sad part BaJie acts like a brute but deep down he is a softball. He intentionally asked WuKong to leave her alive during the journey. After the final chapter 4 boss fight, the player can return to the map to find a treasure in Violet Siper's grave. In lore, that treasure is to keep a person's look never aging or decaying even if the person is dead. That treasure is the only magical treasure BaJie had since he "confiscated" it back in the old journey to the West story. So he secretly returned to her grave hoping to preserve whatever his loved has left, hoping one day to revive her, but he found nothing. While her daughter will never know how much BaJie has done for her.
The most painful of it is Ba Jie had to let go his love of her in order to end the cycle. To love is to let go even if it's the most painful thing to do, Ba Jie loves her but she cursed him out of her twisted love which cursed her reincarnation cycle.
While the girl not 100% curse, but. She’s his true fate partner. She choose it by her will. Cause Chinese word for spider and pig is very close. So. She choose to follow him in every circle. And she know his condition yet still choose to be with him and died to against the heaven order. But he cant bear it anymore to lose his love which come to his famous phase and impact in my Thai culture and Buddhism When you have love, there will be pain. Sad and sorrow eternity.
紫衣仙子。the violet fairy. she was the love interest of the Bajie when he was the Celestia admiral. Because love was Not allowed between deities in heaven. Both of them were banished to the human realm. she became the spider demon. Bajie became the pig demon. Well.. Love found a way. BTW for Bajie. it was strike 2. he was already admonished previously for unsolicited advancement towards the moon goddess while drunk.
Wait, if love was not permitted with deities, as well as love being prohibited between a celestial being and mortal.. then love was not permitted at all.. this version of Jade King is truly terrible..
I mean yeah. The Jade Emperor is kind of a dick. I mean one time he asked Hou Yi, the DIVINE ARCHER, to handle his kids who had transformed into nine additional suns and were destroying the world. Guess what Hou Yi, the DIVINE ARCHER did? Spoiler alert, he shot arrows at the 9 suns. Jade Emperor, shocked, gasping at the fact that the DIVINE ARCHER shot ARROWS at his sons, banished Hou Yi and his wife to the mortal realm
To anyone wondering why the Violet Faerie/Spider said Bajie loves a monkey 😂 Bajie and Wukong got married back then during the journey when Sanjang and Wukong got to meet him and have him join the pilgrims. It was actually an act to trick Bajie but still 😂
What I kind of interpreted from this chapter was this section was meant for Zhu Bajie to grow as a character and achieve an enlightenment he never achieved in Journey to the West. At the end of the book, Bajie, instead of becoming a Buddha, becomes Cleaner of the Alters (his job is to clean up and eat the spiritual leftovers of alter offerings), which shows that he as a person still had a lot of spiritual cleaning to do. This chapter suggests that part of it stems from Baije's relationship with VIolet Spider. Baije's relationship with Violet Spider was essentially a passionate fling: they found comfort in each other, as well as used each other to cope with their own personal problems (Baije in his attachment to excess and feeling unloveable as a person, and Spider in her own excess and never feeling fulfilled in love). It was the first time either of them ever probably felt loved in their lives. However, Baije moves on, and with great difficulty, abandons VIolet Spider to follow the Tang monk in Journey to the West (he decides to change his live to be a better person), while VIolet Spider is left pregnant, abandoned, and just cant let him go (he was liturally "the one that got away"). Baije returning to Velvet Spider is essentially him being forced to confront a lot of the trauma he has regarding past relationship with her: VIolet Spider grew old in his absence and died. She had a baby, who very much resembles Baije as a human (their daughter liturally and symbolically is the long lasting results of their relationship, which both disgusts and saddens Baije). Over the course of the chapter, Baije goes from rolling in the mud and turning into a wild Boar, while saying how he's not going to leave Violet Spider again (it shows now only how difficult it was for him to leave her the first time, but also his regrets in abandoning her), to Baije walking away from Violet Spider and his daughter towards the lotus head that rises after defeating Hundred-Eyed (in Buddhism, the lotus is symbolic of the journey to enlightenment in that it starts out growing in the mud, rises from the mud and filth, and blooms clean). I think that might be the meaning behind why Baije struggles to walk away from Violet Spider as she says "You haven't changed a bit...you fool." What she says can be interpreted in different ways. There is some symbolic venom in it (You're still the same messed up pig who abandoned me and our daughter...you fool), but also a tremendous amount of melancholic love in it too (You're still the same man that I feel in love with all those years ago...you beautiful fool). That's why Baije struggles so much with himself to not turn back and return to her as she dies...that one phrase is all of Baije's past trauma and regrets rolled into one sentence. Even though he struggles, he manages to push forward and let her go once again and for the last time, achieving personal enlightenment in a way.
Celestial court in my opinion feels morally grey and sometimes evil. Not evil outright but most of the time it's related to either them being depraved, jealous or envious of something they don't like.
Imagine creating something with the ability to feel love and then have them bind to a rule forbidding them.. Thats cruel and unjust.. Even cursing them to become a monster... Glad we are not in this story 😂
everytime i watch a clip of black myth wukong thay tells story. I'm getting more insight from the comments. and it add more context and i feel more sadder for their love story 😢 dari dulu begitulah cinta, deritanya tiada akhir 😢
well old chinese myth have so much story about mortal fall in love with demons, if the demons like this girl in the game, ofc people will fall in love with them even if knowing they are demons
In fact, in Chinese mythology, we collectively refer to non-human beings who can cultivate into human form as yaoguai, among which beautiful female yaoguai is called yaojing. We call those humans who have fallen into the demon path due to evil thoughts demons.Yaoguai or yaojing can be both kind and evil, but demons are always evil.
well, the chapter opening cutscene did say that violet spider marries someone then eats them every season, so it's possible she had a kid with some of them (female spiders do eat their mates often after mating after all)
Nah. He's not that strong. Even when he was in heaven, he was one of the weakest commanders. Though his feat is also transformation like Wukong, he has nothing else special. He's actually the first villian in the novel before Kaun-yin made him to join the pilgrimage team.
Yeah, the squad was basically 90% Wukong and 10% everyone else, Bajie although wasn't that strong, he always got Wukong back in a fight and he was someone Wukong can trust since he was so single minded. When Tanzang and Wukong argued, he would be the ones who mediated the situation. Without him, the journey would have ended at some point.
Bro - he's literally cursed to have bad luck with love If he let himself love her andtheir daughter The heavens would literally PUT THEM IN DANGER He HAS to pretend to not remember them or let himself love them in order to protect them
@@iskandaraslar-pf3iv basically in the end animation of the chap, when zhu bajie was a member of heaven, the lady he was chasing has a lower status than the jade emperor. He caught the moon lady and the emperor having an affair, so to keep the secret , zhu bajie was punished out of heaven to be reincarnated into the mortal realm and was cursed to have bad luck with love
@@iskandaraslar-pf3ivto put it simple because zhu bajie is not strong enough to fight the heaven he know well even the mighty bull king and monkey king with all of their great power cant protect their family from heaven court what can he posibly do
@@julianlookhbruh 1. The pig was a human in love with the moon god 2. Get turned into a pig 3. Can choose to stay with the spider or journey with xuanzhang and wukong 4. He choose to journey with them
5. Wukong fight with erlang on early game and stated that his master and the sutra are safe 6. Wukong just want to chill on mountain with the monkeys but heaven didn't allow that 7. Wukong get killed 8. Bajie get trapped inside a pot 9. Xuanzhang and one more guy unknown
In my opinion: Zhu Bajie had previously received the 1000-life love suffering curse from the sky emperor. In their previous life, they often meet, make love and suffer because of it in many cycle of their lives (it is said that one example of the their tragic love story* of Sampek-Engtay). After JTTW, Zhu Bajie has received Buddhahood and can live forever (or a very-very long time at least), while the woman (spider demon) can only prolong her life with the help of Wukong's relic (cmiiw). With the death of the spider demon their life lines will not intersect again, she will keep reincanated but they will not meet again in the mortal world as a lover, thus the curse of love of 1000 lives should have ended by that, because the two of them cannot meet again in mortal life. *Reference: JTTW 1996 season 1 (Dicky Cheung version) first part of eps 4/30 and middle part of eps 5/30
@@bayutirtayasa4830he suffered 1000 times love from various women, dude, not just 1000 from violet spider reincarnation, violet spider never reincarnated, because the only one cursed was Bajie
I've noticed a significant drop in the graphics quality, especially after Chapters 4 and 5, which is quite disappointing. The earlier chapters presented a much higher standard in both gameplay and visuals, creating a stark contrast. It almost feels like these later chapters were developed by a different team with a lower budget. Don’t get me wrong-the storyline of *Black Myth: Wukong* is fantastic, but this noticeable inconsistency really detracts from the overall experience. I’m surprised that more people aren’t talking about this.
We just sort of understand it. It took them so long and so much resources to make the first 5 chapters. That they run out of resources. The Venture Capital can't wait any longer, GTA VI is releasing next year. It's the best Game Science can do and it's already a far stretch.
@Willy-vh2os People arent talking about this Yeah no sh1t dude because it doesnt get downgrade are you high or something lol Chapter 4 and chapter 5 are beautiful lol Especially chapter 5
@@Ammarnafiz12345 it’s purely from a business perspective. GTA 6 will grab all the attention and most people’s time and budget. Not a good idea to release at the same period.
There are some misinterpretations, but in short, everyone related to or helped WuKong suffered an ill destiny. If the celestial court knew that BaJie and Violet Spider had a daughter, they could take her hostage easily. Unlike WuKong, BaJie doesn't have the power nor method to rebel against the celestial court. The only option left for BaJie is to deny their relationship and help Wukong, who has the power to solo the court. In order to give his daughter a safer future, free of influence from the court.
And here is the sad part BaJie acts like a brute but deep down he is a softball. He intentionally asked WuKong to leave her alive during the journey. After the final chapter 4 boss fight, the player can return to the map to find a treasure in Violet Siper's grave. In lore, that treasure is to keep a person's look never aging or decaying even if the person is dead. That treasure is the only magical treasure BaJie had since he "confiscated" it back in the old journey to the West story. So he secretly returned to her grave hoping to preserve whatever his loved has left, hoping one day to revive her, but he found nothing. While her daughter will never know how much BaJie has done for her.
The most painful of it is Ba Jie had to let go his love of her in order to end the cycle. To love is to let go even if it's the most painful thing to do, Ba Jie loves her but she cursed him out of her twisted love which cursed her reincarnation cycle.
Just to clarify, aren't they both cursed to reincarnate? I was a bit confused on this part of the story.
Yea same i thought the gods cursed them
@@rachelleung179Yeah,if they lives together the circle continue.
@@rachelleung179because he saw heaven king secret affair. So, it’s like a punishment for reincarnation 1000 times and will have unsuccessful love.
While the girl not 100% curse, but. She’s his true fate partner.
She choose it by her will. Cause Chinese word for spider and pig is very close. So. She choose to follow him in every circle. And she know his condition yet still choose to be with him and died to against the heaven order.
But he cant bear it anymore to lose his love which come to his famous phase and impact in my Thai culture and Buddhism When you have love, there will be pain. Sad and sorrow eternity.
紫衣仙子。the violet fairy. she was the love interest of the Bajie when he was the Celestia admiral. Because love was Not allowed between deities in heaven. Both of them were banished to the human realm. she became the spider demon. Bajie became the pig demon. Well.. Love found a way. BTW for Bajie. it was strike 2. he was already admonished previously for unsolicited advancement towards the moon goddess while drunk.
what
LinKongDa, you need to improve upon your grammar.
Wait, if love was not permitted with deities, as well as love being prohibited between a celestial being and mortal.. then love was not permitted at all..
this version of Jade King is truly terrible..
I mean yeah. The Jade Emperor is kind of a dick. I mean one time he asked Hou Yi, the DIVINE ARCHER, to handle his kids who had transformed into nine additional suns and were destroying the world. Guess what Hou Yi, the DIVINE ARCHER did? Spoiler alert, he shot arrows at the 9 suns. Jade Emperor, shocked, gasping at the fact that the DIVINE ARCHER shot ARROWS at his sons, banished Hou Yi and his wife to the mortal realm
Perhaps the Chinese Heavenly Court needs to meet Kratos, Im waiting for that day now
underated comment
The game heavily hints at the destined one paying them a visit, I can't wait to go ape shit
Well...this is the best comment so far
Wukong and Kratos would be good homies. They know how rotten the gods they serve are.
Monkey is better
To anyone wondering why the Violet Faerie/Spider said Bajie loves a monkey 😂 Bajie and Wukong got married back then during the journey when Sanjang and Wukong got to meet him and have him join the pilgrims. It was actually an act to trick Bajie but still 😂
What I kind of interpreted from this chapter was this section was meant for Zhu Bajie to grow as a character and achieve an enlightenment he never achieved in Journey to the West. At the end of the book, Bajie, instead of becoming a Buddha, becomes Cleaner of the Alters (his job is to clean up and eat the spiritual leftovers of alter offerings), which shows that he as a person still had a lot of spiritual cleaning to do. This chapter suggests that part of it stems from Baije's relationship with VIolet Spider.
Baije's relationship with Violet Spider was essentially a passionate fling: they found comfort in each other, as well as used each other to cope with their own personal problems (Baije in his attachment to excess and feeling unloveable as a person, and Spider in her own excess and never feeling fulfilled in love). It was the first time either of them ever probably felt loved in their lives. However, Baije moves on, and with great difficulty, abandons VIolet Spider to follow the Tang monk in Journey to the West (he decides to change his live to be a better person), while VIolet Spider is left pregnant, abandoned, and just cant let him go (he was liturally "the one that got away").
Baije returning to Velvet Spider is essentially him being forced to confront a lot of the trauma he has regarding past relationship with her: VIolet Spider grew old in his absence and died. She had a baby, who very much resembles Baije as a human (their daughter liturally and symbolically is the long lasting results of their relationship, which both disgusts and saddens Baije). Over the course of the chapter, Baije goes from rolling in the mud and turning into a wild Boar, while saying how he's not going to leave Violet Spider again (it shows now only how difficult it was for him to leave her the first time, but also his regrets in abandoning her), to Baije walking away from Violet Spider and his daughter towards the lotus head that rises after defeating Hundred-Eyed (in Buddhism, the lotus is symbolic of the journey to enlightenment in that it starts out growing in the mud, rises from the mud and filth, and blooms clean).
I think that might be the meaning behind why Baije struggles to walk away from Violet Spider as she says "You haven't changed a bit...you fool." What she says can be interpreted in different ways. There is some symbolic venom in it (You're still the same messed up pig who abandoned me and our daughter...you fool), but also a tremendous amount of melancholic love in it too (You're still the same man that I feel in love with all those years ago...you beautiful fool). That's why Baije struggles so much with himself to not turn back and return to her as she dies...that one phrase is all of Baije's past trauma and regrets rolled into one sentence. Even though he struggles, he manages to push forward and let her go once again and for the last time, achieving personal enlightenment in a way.
Honestly. Read stories like their love story, Erlang Shens backstory, and tell me the celestial court are the good guys.
Yea in 仙侠 stories, the heavenly beings are often portrayed as having quite the ego and evil tendencies…. Bizarre I know.
Almost like gods Like to play with people or something
Celestial court in my opinion feels morally grey and sometimes evil. Not evil outright but most of the time it's related to either them being depraved, jealous or envious of something they don't like.
It's like they act extremely petty over something that can be solved with just a discussion.
I heard from somewhere that the celestial court were meant to be a parody of the government of the time when "Journey to the West" was written.
Imagine creating something with the ability to feel love and then have them bind to a rule forbidding them.. Thats cruel and unjust.. Even cursing them to become a monster... Glad we are not in this story 😂
That's just sadism at that point.
we have modern feminism that's just as bad. Instead of heavenly kings, we have self-proclaimed qweens..girl bosses
everytime i watch a clip of black myth wukong thay tells story.
I'm getting more insight from the comments. and it add more context
and i feel more sadder for their love story 😢
dari dulu begitulah cinta, deritanya tiada akhir 😢
well old chinese myth have so much story about mortal fall in love with demons, if the demons like this girl in the game, ofc people will fall in love with them even if knowing they are demons
Underrated comment 😂
In fact, in Chinese mythology, we collectively refer to non-human beings who can cultivate into human form as yaoguai, among which beautiful female yaoguai is called yaojing. We call those humans who have fallen into the demon path due to evil thoughts demons.Yaoguai or yaojing can be both kind and evil, but demons are always evil.
28:25 hits my soul man Zhu had such a hard life
The spider and Zhu Bajie has a child? Is this based off of Stephen Chow's A Chinese Odyssey movies?
It's more so Stephen Chow make some of his movies is based on ancient Chinese myths, just like this game
4:35 I have seen so many Zhu Bajie versions, but this takes the "i dont know if its cute or what?"
gotta give the game devs +10 for this fresh version
Ay bruh that ending got me missing my girl I think I need to revaluate sum shi 😅
I don’t get how come the youngest daughter is supposedly Bajies but she has older daughters
well, the chapter opening cutscene did say that violet spider marries someone then eats them every season, so it's possible she had a kid with some of them (female spiders do eat their mates often after mating after all)
It could be based on not when they were born but how they grew into maturity. Non human don’t grow or age the same way.
I thought all of them were his daughters…??
Fk i just knew of this love story from fb and now im interested in playing wu kong. I tot it was just a very good soulslike
EN dub on this game is good
Is Bajie really strong?
Why it like he is not even at Wukong's 1/6 relic level🥲
In original novel, he was weak and constantly need Wukong to help with his trouble cause by either lust and gluttonous
Nah. He's not that strong. Even when he was in heaven, he was one of the weakest commanders. Though his feat is also transformation like Wukong, he has nothing else special. He's actually the first villian in the novel before Kaun-yin made him to join the pilgrimage team.
Yeah, the squad was basically 90% Wukong and 10% everyone else, Bajie although wasn't that strong, he always got Wukong back in a fight and he was someone Wukong can trust since he was so single minded. When Tanzang and Wukong argued, he would be the ones who mediated the situation. Without him, the journey would have ended at some point.
@@OutisGreen
Yeah, and 沙僧 were like an NPC in novel.......just like the game here(only appear in flashback)
@@annoying_HK_guy wasnt Bajie still considered 2nd strongest
Zhu ba jie youre a bad father shame on you for didn't pay for your own child support
Bro - he's literally cursed to have bad luck with love
If he let himself love her andtheir daughter
The heavens would literally
PUT THEM IN DANGER
He HAS to pretend to not remember them or let himself love them in order to protect them
@@cryptwinters8886 but why tho
@@iskandaraslar-pf3iv basically in the end animation of the chap, when zhu bajie was a member of heaven, the lady he was chasing has a lower status than the jade emperor. He caught the moon lady and the emperor having an affair, so to keep the secret , zhu bajie was punished out of heaven to be reincarnated into the mortal realm and was cursed to have bad luck with love
@@iskandaraslar-pf3ivto put it simple because zhu bajie is not strong enough to fight the heaven he know well even the mighty bull king and monkey king with all of their great power cant protect their family from heaven court what can he posibly do
Thanks. This was pretty good.
The story in the game is different from I remember watching the series from China 30 years ago
THE STORY IS AFTER THE series MAIN STORY BRO
@@rtixphinong8421 So after the main story, the pig goes back to heaven and became a heaven soldier?
@@julianlookhbruh
1. The pig was a human in love with the moon god
2. Get turned into a pig
3. Can choose to stay with the spider or journey with xuanzhang and wukong
4. He choose to journey with them
5. Wukong fight with erlang on early game and stated that his master and the sutra are safe
6. Wukong just want to chill on mountain with the monkeys but heaven didn't allow that
7. Wukong get killed
8. Bajie get trapped inside a pot
9. Xuanzhang and one more guy unknown
Marshal Tian Peng aka Zhu Bajie
so Zhu Bajie has 5 spider daughters..
Looks like its just the youngest one in the black myth story
Just one. The little girl.
@@thedarkplague1475 u r wrong
@@imkow Are they, though?
@@imkow They literally show it in the game bro.
Is she going to reincarnate or is she gone forever?
she's gone
In my opinion:
Zhu Bajie had previously received the 1000-life love suffering curse from the sky emperor. In their previous life, they often meet, make love and suffer because of it in many cycle of their lives (it is said that one example of the their tragic love story* of Sampek-Engtay).
After JTTW, Zhu Bajie has received Buddhahood and can live forever (or a very-very long time at least), while the woman (spider demon) can only prolong her life with the help of Wukong's relic (cmiiw).
With the death of the spider demon their life lines will not intersect again, she will keep reincanated but they will not meet again in the mortal world as a lover, thus the curse of love of 1000 lives should have ended by that, because the two of them cannot meet again in mortal life.
*Reference: JTTW 1996 season 1 (Dicky Cheung version) first part of eps 4/30 and middle part of eps 5/30
@@bayutirtayasa4830 yes, that is good explanation.
@@bayutirtayasa4830he suffered 1000 times love from various women, dude, not just 1000 from violet spider reincarnation, violet spider never reincarnated, because the only one cursed was Bajie
forever vanished never exists in any realm. So sad😢
Are all the spiders his daughters??
yes
The youngest one
I've noticed a significant drop in the graphics quality, especially after Chapters 4 and 5, which is quite disappointing. The earlier chapters presented a much higher standard in both gameplay and visuals, creating a stark contrast. It almost feels like these later chapters were developed by a different team with a lower budget. Don’t get me wrong-the storyline of *Black Myth: Wukong* is fantastic, but this noticeable inconsistency really detracts from the overall experience. I’m surprised that more people aren’t talking about this.
We just sort of understand it. It took them so long and so much resources to make the first 5 chapters. That they run out of resources. The Venture Capital can't wait any longer, GTA VI is releasing next year. It's the best Game Science can do and it's already a far stretch.
@Willy-vh2os
People arent talking about this
Yeah no sh1t dude because it doesnt get downgrade
are you high or something lol
Chapter 4 and chapter 5 are beautiful lol
Especially chapter 5
i dont even know what were y'all even talking about
Because how is it a downgrade lol
@@nahlene1973 What does it have to do with gta 6
@@Ammarnafiz12345 it’s purely from a business perspective. GTA 6 will grab all the attention and most people’s time and budget. Not a good idea to release at the same period.
are they british or irish?
They're Brirish. Posibly Chinese.
They're British. Possibly Afrikaans
They're Chinese.......Just play in Chinese 🤷♂️
14:02 Kung fu panda theme