Totally agree. 40k for nothing exciting at all. Far too excessive. I am a few years away from Electric until ranges increase further and charging infrastructure catches up
Very dishonest review. Merc has the better interiors, you say? Sorry, I couldn't disagree more. I would go for the Peugeot. That Merc is way too costly for what it is. Be honest: that Merc is totally ordinary. The Peugeot looks fantastic, has great interiors, drives really well. Now, review EV Peugeot E-308 vs EV MercA200 : the Peugeot on same level, still looks better but costs 20.000 less than the Merc.
The test didn't mention the Mercedes's much superior range of 400 miles plus vs the Peugeot's test range of 200 miles. And that's not to mention the Merc needing only 3 minutes to fill up, instead of the 40 minutes plus time need for the Peugeot's just to get to 80% charge. Either way, both cars are way too expensive.
Statistically, you're absolutely right. However, in actual use, no-one would (should...) drive the 400 miles that the MB is capable of in one go - at the average recorded UK motorway speed of 59mph, that'd be over 6 1/2 hours non-stop driving, the equivalent of driving from London to Edinburgh without a pee-break...! So, in reality, most people would drive maybe 3 hours / 180ish miles then take a 30 minute comfort break to grab food, coffee, catch up on emails etc etc Whilst the MB driver would have their car sat idle in the the car park, the Peugeot driver would have plugged their car in to a rapid charge point to let it 're-fuel' whilst they're inside the services doing exactly the same as the MB driver during that 30 minute break - then, both would set off again for the next 180ish mile leg of their journey. It just takes a change of mind-set to drive an EV... 👍
Fair points. One other point about car with a bigger range is the fact it needs fewer times to fill up/charge, whbich means less hassel. Of course, if you're an EV driver and lucky enough to have a home charger, driving mainly short distances, then that's not much of an issue.
1. Both a ridiculous price when you consider what that sort of money could buy. 2. Go on a road trip in each and you'd soon realise the Mercedes is a much more interesting drive. 3. Spend 2/3 the amount of money and get even more agility in a Fiesta or Focus. But you can't buy a Fiesta you might say. That's OK you can get a 2nd hand Fiesta for even less money and have a lot of money left over for even more fun doing other things. 4. When ever I've driven EV (which is not much) I find half the charging units are faulty. No I wouldn't buy either.
These last 12 months or so have seen used EV values tumble, sure - but that was simply the market 're-setting' since, during the latter stages of the pandemic, most used EVs were selling for near list price. Back in late 2020, I sold my 2016 Nissan Leaf for £100 MORE than I bought it for, despite having owned it for 2 years and putting an extra 20,000miles on it...! If you Google average depreciations for, for example, the typical rep-mobile BMW 320d vs the EV equivalent Tesla Model 3, then both lose approximately 40% of their value over the first 3 years.
Problem with the peugeot is driving position. Why they stick with this is beyond me. Having driven them the steering wheel feels so low as its uncomfortable. Put the steering wheel at proper height and i might consider it more
Serious q Are the seats with moulded headrests comfortable for everyone? What was wrong with, you know, 2 metal prongs to move a piece of material up or down according to personal preference?
Interesting comparison. At a time of record events in climate terms the ultimate question is, given the comparatively low CO2 impact from private cars, do you want to be a tiny part of the problem or a tiny part of the solution?
Thanks. I thought that the environmental impact should have got a mention at least. That’s a clear win for the Peugeot and for many people a key factor.
@@zidan40o0You do know google can help you do some research on how EV batteries are recycled and the fact that LFP batteries are used on many new EVs which use less rare earth elements?
The Kia Niro EV 4 would have been a more interesting comparison - Same price but more horse power 201 HP, Cable storage under the bonnet, Heads up display, Larger 64.8Kw battery, Larger boot 475 Litres, Electric memory seats, 7 Year warranty.
I would go neither, and spend a little more and get a Tesla model Y. With incentives, and if you have solar for charging, its a compelling offering, if not as luxurious as the merc. Tonnes of space for the ticket price though, to suit family duties, ferrying people around in decent comfort, as opposed to cramped rear of the merc.
Great honest review Vicky - top of the range Dacia Duster Extreme semi auto ticks my box much better at 23k odd ! I currently have a Duster Prestige 1.3 TCE and get 41mpg all the time but really fancy automatic for my old bones😅
I've owned an A200d three years ago, and the build quality was not good with interior cabin rattles. Now have a C class and proper merc quality. Wouldn't have any EV at the moment.
Horrible vehicles.. i wouldn't touch either.. I'm not an EV fan but I'm sure the Tesla 3 would be the only way to go st this price point .. Peugeot quirks like that driving position and naff steering wheel would put me off either.. At this price a hybrid Honda or Toyota is the way to go..
Different cars with different power trains......really? Get Peugeot 308 hybrid with 180 or 225 ps, add all the equipment and then compare with mercedes....
lol you quoted the range of the Peugeot, but not the Mercedes. Here it is: Peugeot with 30 miles spare in case of issues: maybe 190 miles. Mercedes: 500 miles.
It could be a premium German electric Vs a sh.ty Fiat ICE vehicle, the winner will always be ICE. ICE vehicles are less dangerous for the environment and so much better in normal conditions driving. Side note, why on earth would you want underfloor storage for your cable, it's ludicrous ! Or are you expecting to empty your boot each time you need to recharge on a long journey travel 😂
That’s why you buy a home charger with a cord and a car with a frunk. How is the ICE less dangerous for the environment? If it’s friendly, why not lead the exhaust pipe in to the cabin?
@@Harrythehunbattery mined filth needed to make disposable batteries. Everyone is now wise to the EV con so nobody is falling for the clean driving myth ..
@@Harrythehun The EVs are a disaster for the planet, for plenty of reasons! Your comment is typical, now think and analyse the situation: - rare metals and raw materials for the batteries and other electric components, their extraction, refinery, production of components, think of the amount of energy required, chemicals, water..., and their impact on the environment, not to mention social impact. - now you have for sure heard about microparticules, and their danger for us humans, guess what, the major parts of such comes from tire wear&tear. Hand you know which vehicle has the biggest tires and the heaviest weight?! EV, it has already been proven that the amount of microparticules produced by EV are superior to what an equivalent ICE does. - now think about recycling such EV, guess what, like for the supposedly fantastic wind mills, nothing has been thought and the materials used will have a bigger impact on the environment if you recycle them than just ditching them under hearth, shall they want to intend the process (energy required, chemicals needed...) So think in the long term! - finally, sure your ev does not have an exhaust, but think about how your electricity is produced and what is its impact on the environment, the problem is just displaced but still exists, and it's an even worsen situation as there is much less control over electric power plant exhausts than on normal ICE.
Peugeot is the thinking man's choice.
£40k is £20k too much for that very ordinary Merc
Absolutely spot on both there’s cars are horrendously overpriced for what they are.
Totally agree. 40k for nothing exciting at all. Far too excessive. I am a few years away from Electric until ranges increase further and charging infrastructure catches up
Both are overpriced A-B cars. Would need to be on a cheap lease deal to be remotely tempting
And you would pay over 40k for a Peugeot?
@@SneakyGenius hell no! I wouldn’t pay
More than £18k-£22 for either of them way too Overpriced for what they are.
Peugeot is doing well
Very dishonest review. Merc has the better interiors, you say? Sorry, I couldn't disagree more. I would go for the Peugeot. That Merc is way too costly for what it is. Be honest: that Merc is totally ordinary. The Peugeot looks fantastic, has great interiors, drives really well.
Now, review EV Peugeot E-308 vs EV MercA200 : the Peugeot on same level, still looks better but costs 20.000 less than the Merc.
The test didn't mention the Mercedes's much superior range of 400 miles plus vs the Peugeot's test range of 200 miles. And that's not to mention the Merc needing only 3 minutes to fill up, instead of the 40 minutes plus time need for the Peugeot's just to get to 80% charge. Either way, both cars are way too expensive.
Statistically, you're absolutely right.
However, in actual use, no-one would (should...) drive the 400 miles that the MB is capable of in one go - at the average recorded UK motorway speed of 59mph, that'd be over 6 1/2 hours non-stop driving, the equivalent of driving from London to Edinburgh without a pee-break...!
So, in reality, most people would drive maybe 3 hours / 180ish miles then take a 30 minute comfort break to grab food, coffee, catch up on emails etc etc
Whilst the MB driver would have their car sat idle in the the car park, the Peugeot driver would have plugged their car in to a rapid charge point to let it 're-fuel' whilst they're inside the services doing exactly the same as the MB driver during that 30 minute break - then, both would set off again for the next 180ish mile leg of their journey.
It just takes a change of mind-set to drive an EV...
👍
Fair points. One other point about car with a bigger range is the fact it needs fewer times to fill up/charge, whbich means less hassel. Of course, if you're an EV driver and lucky enough to have a home charger, driving mainly short distances, then that's not much of an issue.
I was offered £17000 off the 308sw in my local Peugeot dealer a few weeks ago ! They can’t sell them .
1. Both a ridiculous price when you consider what that sort of money could buy. 2. Go on a road trip in each and you'd soon realise the Mercedes is a much more interesting drive. 3. Spend 2/3 the amount of money and get even more agility in a Fiesta or Focus. But you can't buy a Fiesta you might say. That's OK you can get a 2nd hand Fiesta for even less money and have a lot of money left over for even more fun doing other things. 4. When ever I've driven EV (which is not much) I find half the charging units are faulty. No I wouldn't buy either.
£40k !!!! I wouldn't touch either for bloody silly money, far better options out there than either car 🚗 🎉
Or just buy one when it is few or so years old for half price (or less). Half price still isn't cheap really.
I got my 2018 68 a class start of 2020 14000 cheaper than a brand new one. A200 Amg line (executive) £19,995
And do not forget the incredible EV depreciation .
Pick up a bargain!
Exactly
These last 12 months or so have seen used EV values tumble, sure - but that was simply the market 're-setting' since, during the latter stages of the pandemic, most used EVs were selling for near list price.
Back in late 2020, I sold my 2016 Nissan Leaf for £100 MORE than I bought it for, despite having owned it for 2 years and putting an extra 20,000miles on it...!
If you Google average depreciations for, for example, the typical rep-mobile BMW 320d vs the EV equivalent Tesla Model 3, then both lose approximately 40% of their value over the first 3 years.
Good shout@@jonathantaylor1998, it's almost like many have forgotten the depreciation levels of ICE cars prior to 2020.
Problem with the peugeot is driving position. Why they stick with this is beyond me. Having driven them the steering wheel feels so low as its uncomfortable. Put the steering wheel at proper height and i might consider it more
This might blow your mind but you can adjust the steering wheel height and length 🤯
Still too low after test driving it so it did not blow my mind as you say
Rented a 3008 Bristol to Manchester and back not a problem and I’m quite tall (6ft)
I really like the 308. Great looking car inside and out but would avoid the EV version in favour of the ICE model. The A Class does nothing for me.
Peugeot is killing it
Serious q
Are the seats with moulded headrests comfortable for everyone? What was wrong with, you know, 2 metal prongs to move a piece of material up or down according to personal preference?
I choose the stylish Peugeot with French flare over bland German cars
Interesting comparison. At a time of record events in climate terms the ultimate question is, given the comparatively low CO2 impact from private cars, do you want to be a tiny part of the problem or a tiny part of the solution?
42k and you get the range of a base model Diesel Corsa with 17 quid in the tank, You would have to be nuts.
Thanks. I thought that the environmental impact should have got a mention at least. That’s a clear win for the Peugeot and for many people a key factor.
EV cars are horrible for the environment. Batteries just use way too many rare earths and we still have no idea how to recycle these properly.
@@zidan40o0You do know google can help you do some research on how EV batteries are recycled and the fact that LFP batteries are used on many new EVs which use less rare earth elements?
The Kia Niro EV 4 would have been a more interesting comparison - Same price but more horse power 201 HP,
Cable storage under the bonnet, Heads up display, Larger 64.8Kw battery, Larger boot 475 Litres, Electric memory seats,
7 Year warranty.
Sadly niro isn’t a hatchback
for £40k I could pick up 1 year year old M340i with 10k miles on it wtf
Very weird to compare a petrol merc against the EV PGT.
I would go neither, and spend a little more and get a Tesla model Y. With incentives, and if you have solar for charging, its a compelling offering, if not as luxurious as the merc.
Tonnes of space for the ticket price though, to suit family duties, ferrying people around in decent comfort, as opposed to cramped rear of the merc.
Great honest review Vicky - top of the range Dacia Duster Extreme semi auto ticks my box much better at 23k odd !
I currently have a Duster Prestige 1.3 TCE and get 41mpg all the time but really fancy automatic for my old bones😅
I've owned an A200d three years ago, and the build quality was not good with interior cabin rattles. Now have a C class and proper merc quality. Wouldn't have any EV at the moment.
Here in Australia 🇦🇺 the pug is over $80,000 way to expensive for a French 🇫🇷 car that’s why u never see them on the road 😂
Peugeot e-308 😍
Horrible vehicles.. i wouldn't touch either.. I'm not an EV fan but I'm sure the Tesla 3 would be the only way to go st this price point .. Peugeot quirks like that driving position and naff steering wheel would put me off either..
At this price a hybrid Honda or Toyota is the way to go..
Gotta be the Peugeot. The Merc is starting to look a bit bland and dated!
And which one will be worth more in 3 years, cheaper to insure, more convenient, as well as being cheaper to buy.....
Since when do you compare Merc with Peugeot? :) And why is the presenter dressed up like she just finished cleaning the living room? :)
Yeah I was thinking the same. The 308 is much nicer.
£40 for a renault megane branded mercedes? Nah
A bit of a random test really.
40 grand for that poorman merc is insanity 😂 You can literally buy a brand new a35 amg from mercedes for 35k ffs
dont even try to compare peugeot with the king mercedes. i have 2023 model peugeot 308, rattle noises already coming from the dashboard :)
Different cars with different power trains......really? Get Peugeot 308 hybrid with 180 or 225 ps, add all the equipment and then compare with mercedes....
I prefer other cars with Auto-Hold
Mercedes should only make the C, E & S Class.... and the SL.
That (G) A (Y) Class is not a proper Merc 🤨
German ice takes the win 😊
If you have to defend your video while you're doing it, do a different video
lol you quoted the range of the Peugeot, but not the Mercedes. Here it is: Peugeot with 30 miles spare in case of issues: maybe 190 miles. Mercedes: 500 miles.
Peugeot is overpriced. I would go for the Tesla model 3 over both of these!
For what Peugeot actually deliver, now in 2023, no I don't find them overpriced.
It could be a premium German electric Vs a sh.ty Fiat ICE vehicle, the winner will always be ICE.
ICE vehicles are less dangerous for the environment and so much better in normal conditions driving.
Side note, why on earth would you want underfloor storage for your cable, it's ludicrous ! Or are you expecting to empty your boot each time you need to recharge on a long journey travel 😂
That’s why you buy a home charger with a cord and a car with a frunk. How is the ICE less dangerous for the environment? If it’s friendly, why not lead the exhaust pipe in to the cabin?
@@Harrythehunbattery mined filth needed to make disposable batteries. Everyone is now wise to the EV con so nobody is falling for the clean driving myth ..
@@Harrythehun
The EVs are a disaster for the planet, for plenty of reasons! Your comment is typical, now think and analyse the situation:
- rare metals and raw materials for the batteries and other electric components, their extraction, refinery, production of components, think of the amount of energy required, chemicals, water..., and their impact on the environment, not to mention social impact.
- now you have for sure heard about microparticules, and their danger for us humans, guess what, the major parts of such comes from tire wear&tear. Hand you know which vehicle has the biggest tires and the heaviest weight?! EV, it has already been proven that the amount of microparticules produced by EV are superior to what an equivalent ICE does.
- now think about recycling such EV, guess what, like for the supposedly fantastic wind mills, nothing has been thought and the materials used will have a bigger impact on the environment if you recycle them than just ditching them under hearth, shall they want to intend the process (energy required, chemicals needed...) So think in the long term!
- finally, sure your ev does not have an exhaust, but think about how your electricity is produced and what is its impact on the environment, the problem is just displaced but still exists, and it's an even worsen situation as there is much less control over electric power plant exhausts than on normal ICE.
308 is not nice looking, bring back the 306 please.
the peugeot looks like a premium brand and the merc looks like cheap chines dull car
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