When Mary Queen of Scots Realised She Was in an English Prison?
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- Mary Queen of Scots spent more time than any other in an English prison. She didn't plan that... so when did she first realise that she was a prisoner in England? Scottish history tour guide, Bruce Fummey tells the story.
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They believed Elizabeth was illegitimate and Mary, as the descendant of Henry VIII's sister, Margaret Tudor, was the rightful heir. Elizabeth was reluctant to have her killed, so she imprisoned her instead for 19 years
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A lot of People don't realize that her first language was french and that she was Queen of France. Thanks again Bruce, you're a star in the firmament.
Her mother was French too of course and as a result many words of French origin found their way into the Scots language.
@@Nastyswimmer Thanks for that.
That complex French family connection led to 'The Rough Wooing' and the present area around Edinburgh's main hospital,still being known as 'Little France'!👍
@@MrSinclairn Wow, thanks for that.
"The Captive Song of Mary Stuart", by Jean Redpath tells the whole tale. Beautifully sung.
You are an excellent and engaging story teller, and I love your educational videos. Keep 'em coming!
My favorite words in every video are still "Let me tell you a story." 😁
Having recently visited your beautiful country, I had a chance to look at some of the needlework done by the detainee and her detainer. Bess of Hardwick was a fascinating woman, too. What an interesting time, with so many powerful women in one part of the world!
Thanks for another interesting and knowledgeable video about the beloved Mary Queen of Scots. Her and Anne Boleyn are my favorite women to read or watch documentaries about. I often wonder how it would be to live during those times. Drastically different in numerous ways but very similar at the same time regarding ppls way of thinking and corruption. As we can see that never changes with the ppl at the top unfortunately.
I always look forward to all your videos. So interesting. Scotland has such a rich history.
Glad you like them!
And, we're still evolving - much more to come. Keep watching 😊
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You are an amazing story teller thank you I love history but you make it come alive and do it with clarity .xx
I try
I feel sorry for viewers watching outside the GMT timezone because Bruce's videos always seem to pop up at the perfect time on a saturday morning)
Don't they just! ❤️
No problem. We watch them early via Xfinity TH-cam. Another great video.
The video on Queen Mary at the end of the video didn't show on my computer youtube or xfinity youtube. Also the No reaction was barely auditable.
Hey Dixon feel free to create your own content and publish it.
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Being from one of the areas mentioned quite frequently and also having Mcmillan in my blood. I can see you have little education on our history so therefore should perhaps enlighten the mind with more from Bruce.🙂
Great story Bruce, I love this particular topic. Mary Queen of Scots has always been a fascination of mine. Thank you for this and good morning from America!
Nice video. I knew of Mary's imprisonment but didn't realise the extent of ER's jigery pokery with show trials to cement the imprisonment. Living in Canada for many years now, I had forgotten about jiggery pokery, it's a great word combo that I must try to bring in to my every day chat again to confuse the locals.
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Wonder which team got their refreshments from the licking wall!! Another great story Bruce, Thanks!
It appears that over the centuries the liars, hangers-on and the jiggery-pokery of the English crown have become less lethal but just as convoluted and just as unspeakable. the more things change the more they stay the same I guess. Thanks again for a great story, Bruce.
Elizabeth was a set one. This was well done Bruce
I love hearing about my my cousin Mary
Jiggery Pokery indeed. I find it amazing that nothing changes. Thank you again. Another belter
Thanks for your endeavours to reveal the dramatic history of Scotland especially that of Mary and the scary memories she left behind. I have red before that about the time Mary would be subjected to stricter custody there was already a named banner and flags in Scotland for her return to be restored to her throne. If this is true, it is important to look into it. This will give us a better way to summarize the destiny of Mary Queen of Scots. I consider the Catholic records about Mary to be very important.
Thanks my dear brother.
Once again you educate me Bruce. Thank you 👍
Very welcome
In the late 1940s ( I can't remember the exact date) I was at school in Carlisle. To celebrate the Carlisle Centenary a show was put on for Princess Margaret, daughter of King George VL. A match of football was played on Bitts Park and I was in it. It was to commemorate the game watched by Mary Queen of Scots. I can't remember if Princess Margaret threw the ball in !
The further north I traveled in Scotland the more pro Mary people seemed to be, are my impressions correct? Thanks Bruce for this encapsulation of Mary’s story, endlessly fascinating ❗️
Catholicism was more rural and spread out
Once again a very informative video, a pleasure to watch and a lot to learn from...
Oh what a tangled web they weaved.
Thank you Bruce and camera person.
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Early Saturday morning, nice cup of dark roast and another great video. Life is good.
That was brilliant and gave me a better understanding of this part of her sad story.
For anyone in the Edinburgh area, the silver box that supposedly held the casket letters is on display at the National Museum of Scotland, in the Kingdom of the Scots gallery.
LOVE YOUR VIDEOS. I learn so much. Makes a lot of what goes on today more understandable.
I'm so glad!
Thank you for defining "jiggery pokery" as "jiggery pokery." That was very helpful. Also, that was an interesting choice of stock imagery at 14:59. The anonymous person was stuffing American bills into the handbag. I assure you that we Americans had nothing to do with Mary's death! I can't say whether anyone that were involved had descendants who eventually became Americans, though.
I think jiggery-pokery falls somewhere on the scale between hanky-panky and skullduggery...
@@Lucius1958 That's a good one! well put.
I prefer "Geti upye" and "2pints prick" 🤣😂🤣 sorry i couldn't resist. Just love that show
"deceitful or dishonest behavior" is how google defines it.
Thanks Bruce and Family! Another well done episode.
"Although this is nice" he says, standing on a south facing slope in Wensleydale, one of the most beautiful places you're ever likely to see. 😄
Great video Bruce, your storytelling is amazing. It was so nice to meet you, thanks for the cameo!
the galloping at 8:50 … amazing!
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Keep them coming and I'll keep watching.
I love the history of Mary Queen of Scots. Thank you for posting this
Absolutely love Scottish history, this channel is a gem
Lord Bruce! Another intriguing tale of deceit, trickery and arrogance! Loved the castle scenes! Give us the lowdown on who actually murdered Mary’s husband!
Now there's a twisted tale
and the lesson to be had is a verbal promise isn't worth the paper it is printed on.
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I'm happy to see, you've been practicing your Monty Python-esque galloping Bruce. Well done!
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All that was missing was someone behind him with a couple of coconut halves. 😂
@@DH.2016 ha ha ha!
Another excellent story of our past. Thank you Bruce! 😊 I sure hope we can come over the drink someday to 👀 a sight or two with you!
Many thanks Bruce , I enjoyed that, Mary Stuart seems to have trusted people too easily. And she forgot Elizabeth was her fathers daughter and quite ruthless .She also did not take into account that she was considered pretty and Elizabeth certainly was not. People had emphasized Mary stature and comely features to Elizabeth ,
and it was not well received.
This Scots ex-pat loves Saturday mornings .First thing to is to check Bruce topic, make a cup of tea, watch Bruce, then Bill Mahar, and my Ancestry matches.
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The bard of Scotland. 👍
As always why oh way are you not on TV ..😂p.s loved the horse 🐎never change your ways .. unique💚
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Very nice to meet you Bruce! Such a privilege to be in the right place at the right time! Amazing video! 😊
Ah the sad story of Mary, a lovely lass that was led astray by love.
Did I see you in a trailer for some drama series??
While Galloping around 8:42 i imagined someone with coconuts making the sound somewhere off in the background....
That's EXACTLY what I wanted you to imagine😂
Excellent and informative "story" as always.
I’ll bet those tourists sure got a chuckle watching you “Gallup” about in that field! LOL. Thanks for the history lesson. Tom KC3QAC
Guess Bruce is a Monty Python fan. It was funny.
Kicking the mud and dust from a complex subject - with modern-day references! - is something you do so well, and Thank You! 🤔
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Mary was a tragic Female Renaissance Vassel and kept as a pawn. My direct ancestor Sir James Balfour, Mary's sectretary and who helped organise Darnley's murder, knew Mary was innocent. Thank you Bruce for such a great telling of her story.
Blood Mary is what the soldiers said and Knight said and I like watching your videos keep up with the good work
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Really interesting, I can see why Liz didn’t want Mary roaming around England, there were two many Papists in England looking for a figurehead.
Of course
I really enjoy your videos. Please could you do one on The Meikleour Beech Hedge? I drive past this on my way to munros and just find it completely fascinating.
I'm not sure the audience would be as wide as they are highpp😅
@@ScotlandHistoryTours my now wife didn't believe me about the hedge, took great delight in showing her... she still doesn't quite get the excitement 😂
Awesome. Video Bruce! Learned some new history on Mary. Good history lesson as always. Thank you.
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_congrats on getting 100k all the way from Detroit bro. love the channel. Had to download this for my future kids to watch. __#respectbro__ ._
No you didn't. In fact you're not supposed to
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The first thing that came up in my mind when i read the title: "Yer in clink ma'm"
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I live in Derbyshire Bruce, and I’ve heard and used the phrase jiggery pokery 👍
Good lord, had no idea poor Mary was railroaded so openly
If you have a chance to come to Carlisle the castle is an excellent way to spend time 900 years of blood and stone, and 2000 years of military importance.
Very interesting and entertaining, as all your videos are. Loved the "galloping" - I immediately thought of Monty Python and the Holy Grail! All you needed was the coconuts! 🤣🤣🤣
I find this era of English Scottish conjoined history most interesting. There are so many facets that contribute and lead towards events of the Jacobite and Georgian era which moulded what became our modern form of government. I hope you don't forget to mention that Elizabeth had herself been under a cloud of possible execution when her elder sister Bloody Mary was on the throne and that may have influenced her prevarication in signing cousin Mary's death warrant. Also it is important to mention cousin Mary's rightful claim to the English throne.
Untanglingling the mass of fact and events during this period is arduous good luck.
BTW Once again the French let the Scottish down with their part in the so called alliance.
Her Death Mask is in Lennoxlove House Haddington East Lothian (Home of Duke of Hamilton) Ps also has Rudolf Hess’s flying suit !.
Love your videos, so informative 🏴
class as always 😁
Interesting info ...
More footage of Bruce galloping please. I don't even care if it's out of context, it's just wholesome
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8:46 Where is your coconut percussion assistant?😉
It's worth noting that Mary was a member of France's powerful and ultra-Catholic Guise family, who were rivals for power of the ruling Valois dynasty. At the time all this was going on, Elizabeth was actually involved in negotiations to marry either Charles IX of France, or his younger brother Henry, (who went on to become king himself), as well as their cousin Henry of Navarre, a leader of the Protestant faction in France (also later king of France- everybody in this period of French history is called Henry for some reason).
Sending Mary back to France would potentially have given the Guise family an extra 'card' to play, and strengthened their ability to influence French, English and Scottish politics, at the expense of both Elizabeth and her potential French and Scottish allies. Politics in the 16th century was an even murkier business than today, and Elizabeth wasn't just acting out of spite when she imprisoned Mary, and Mary was a smart enough politician that she might well have done the same had their roles been reversed.
Also, although I agree that much of the evidence against Mary for murdering her husband may have been fabricated, I'm not entirely convinced she was innocent of involvement- he was a pretty vile character and she certainly had plenty of motive to want rid of him.
She HAD been trying to secure a papal divorce from Henry, Lord Darnley (the king consort) almost as soon as her son and heir James was born but it seems the Pope wasn't eager to hand it out. However Mary STILL wanted to end her unhappy 2nd union and was known to leave the spot that her husband had been ailing from smallpox just minutes before it blew up! Even so her having an heir would be Mary's ONLY lasting triumph from this marriage and her return to Scotland (and, of course, every single monarch of Scotland and England since then has been her direct descendant ).
As to Elizabeth's marriage negotiations with the French king and heirs? She wasn't about to leave HER homeland much less relinquish (or share) her monarchial clout but she liked to play these Continental suitors against each other to get the most favorable deals possible for England. It's not for nothing that she was considered the model for the 'cat [who]played the fiddle' (or toyed with a target mouse) in the 'Hey Diddle Diddle' nursery rhyme!
Thanks for that bit of history.
When she ended up in Carlisle castle and they were talking properly.
Hello again. Great stuff as usual but can you push the volume up on your vids. Struggling to hear you on my phone. Thanks 😊
loving the content. Ever walked any of Scotland's beautiful trails? Spey River trail, southern upward way e.t.c I'd always wanted to try it and spend a night in a bothy too. Watching Iain Robertson rambles really got me in the mood for it, would rather do it with someone than myself though, I'm a big feerty at night 🤣🤣🤣
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I always said Mary hoor a Scott's was much like the roads around Perth.
At least in the sense every road has a massive hole, and constantly seeks to be filled.
She used the 1 o'clock cannon Big Bertha as a sex toy.
I think there's a tune called Jiggery Pokery. Or is that a band?
Made ma day Bruce, liking the additional graphics but next time you need a horse find a swallow and harvest the coconut 🤣
Thank you fer a braw video,
You do more fer oor history than most historians except fer sir Tom Devine, but yer getting close....
5/5 from me. Neebz
Another great and interesting video Bruce and I have to say good voice over by I presume Mrs Fummey with another NO, GET ON WITH IT. You make these videos fun and interesting which keeps me coming back for more. Look forward to the next one.
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Bruce, I've often pondered, what would have happened if Elizabeth had just aided an hurried Mary back to France. She could have settled her in some minor duchy or earldom, and the later machinations would have been everted.
Mary wasn't welcome at the French Court, but Charles IX might have been persuaded to settle her somewhere far from court. By imprisonning her only real rival to the English throne, Elisabeth set in motion the very circumstances that would end in the Babington plot.
The Casket Letters have always bothered me, as it seems obvious they were added to by another hand (Bothwell?).
Walsingham was a right wee evil Bastard.
Tha mi an dòchas gum bi latha math agaibh cuideachd!! Dear cousin and family
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I've always felt quite sorry for Marry queen of Scots she had a pretty raw deal when she landed back home and she died with dignity
Agreed
Her life was truly tragic, a woman of grace who wasn't the brightest and naive, falling victim to politics and manipulation. She faced her execution with dignity, but even that was horribly botched.
i'd love to be back in school, especially if it was you teaching history
But the saddest irony is that the land the Queen of Scots truly loved and considered her home wasn't her domain and birthplace of Scotland where she'd left as a child but instead was France where she came of age. During that time, she had considered Scotland to have been her personal cash cow (and the source of her title of queen regnant which she never let her onetime mother-in-law Catherine de Medici meant she outranked even HER- the French queen consort and queen mother). She had even known to call Scotland 'my savage kingdom' and never entirely shook that belief- even after her forced return.
Of course, she should also never let Queen Elizabeth forget that she was still upset that she had NOT been granted safe passage at sea from France and had had to essentially sneak her boat around English waters to return. However, Elizabeth herself never forgave the Queen of Scots that, as soon as her own half-sister Mary had died, her cousin (and her first husband Francis II of France) had openly claimed the English throne and proclaimed themselves Queen and King Consort of England! IOW, the Queen of Scots had no reason to think that the Queen of England had any reason to trust her much less like her or think that she had to support her as a sister queen regnant!
Yeah, I was going to say something like that. She makes a good story, but a deft political hand, she was not.
@@johnmurray2995 And given the amount of proverbial bullets Elizabeth had had to dodge since Henry VIII's death and would continue to dodge during her reign there was no way she was going to let a potential rival run free and continue to cause trouble.
@@richardarcher7177 Elizabeth had been dodging proverbial bullets from the time she was three (!) when Henry VIII had her mother Anne Boleyn beheaded and she herself got bastardized. The already shrewd toddler was heard to say 'Why hap yesterday I'm called Lady Princess and today Lady Elizabeth?'. That she didn't die of neglect or even outright murder during the bad tempered Henry VIII's reign (and had NO ONE besides a few easily replaceable servants helping her- the surviving Boleyns had little if anything to do with her afterwards) is a testament at how determined and resourceful she learned to be from an early age! And then surviving the chaos and intrigues of Edward VI and lastly the paranoia of Mary I's reign she wasn't about to chance any rivals or claimants- going so far as to never marry or even name her successor until her literal deathbed! Yep, the Queen of Scots was outmatched in the wits department from the start even if she WAS more attractive and had borne (as it turned out) the heir to BOTH their kingdoms.
Elizabeth: A Scot on my throne? Over my dead body!
Everyone else: AGREED!!!
@@myparceltape1169 True but no one wanted to prop up any of Lady Jane Grey's surviving sisters or even more distant relatives! Regardless, James VI soon found out for himself that Elizabeth was a tough act to follow!
A'reyt Bruce. Welcome back to England for another cracking tale and great backdrops. Are those your English roots showing whilst admiring our Yorkshire views?
You will be saying again that all of Northumbria should be Scottish?
I live for your dramatic re-enactments.😅
Could you talk about what the stone of destiny is all about and why it is so important to Scottish people ? I just learned of it today but I still don’t really understand it
G'day Bruce. I have been watching your back catalogue of videos for a while now, and I may have missed it, but can you please tell me what the English translation is of your goodbye at the end of the videos.
Thanks mate 🇦🇺
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Mary Livingston was my great, great, great, ( not sure how meny more greats , grandmother, her husband was William semples, , and Mary was one of the four Mary's
She probably released that she was in an English prison whe she had to pay for her own prescriptions at the pharmacy 🤣
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What was the score between Scotland and France in Carlile?
I'm not far from Bolton Castle. Apparently the village of Castle Bolton didn't exist before Mary was there. Houses were built around the castle to house Mary's entourage
Lovely wee place
US Supreme Court Justice Anthony Scalia used the phrase "jiggery pokery" in a Supreme Court opinion.
A man of erudition
I'm guessing it's Sheffield next?
I use jiggery pokery and I am in Canada. So perhaps it has spread. :)
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we use "jiggery pokery" here in NZ too, had no idea it was Scottish! I'd really like to feel sorry for Mary, she being my beloved Charles 1's grannie and all, but I just can't, she's a drip. Whoever did murder Darnley deserves a prize though.
Do you do a line in those hoodies Bruce?
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Bruce, are you going to film in Tutbury or have you already been there?
Ah I have a tale about those BASTARDS
Her son turned out to be everything she resisted how ? Was the movie even close ?
From Merriam-Webster: "Jiggery-pokery comes from Britain, as does most of the finest rhyming slang and spicy mustards, and has long been thought to have originated at the end of the 19th century. However, recent research has indicated that it is older than previously thought. The earliest known use of the phrase comes in 1845, in an article of December 27th from the Berkshire Chronicle (a newspaper from Reading, England), entitled Protection to Agriculture: "...under the present law, the averages were made up so faithfully and fairly as to prevent any jiggery-pokery."
Jiggery Pokery is a great song by The Duckworth Lewis Method about the ball bowled by Shane Warne to Mike Gatting but I am sure you all knew that.
Bruce hi
If you go to Kielder Castle there is a plaque showing the 1st international match was in 1790 between the Dukes of Northumberland and Buccleugh
The couldn’t do any grouse shooting due to a bird disease so the organised a football match instead
There was unlimited numbers and the game kicked off at breakfast time and at the end of the game , teatime . England had won 2-0
But 8 players where found dead and several more died within 2 weeks
An annual match is still held in the Park of Alnwick Castle , the Dukes ancestral home , the site of the original match is now the home of Border Park Rugby Football Club
Would you consider being crowned the "Scottish David Attenborough"?
Got my vote
I love your comparison between Mary Queen of Scots and today’s asylum seekers. As an Australian it particularly resonates as, much to this country’s shame, we started locking up asylum seekers arriving boats over 20 years ago. You need to tell the story of someone well known like MQOS to make the point these people are seeking help.
@@dixonmcmillan1885 Actually most Australians are not. Only a few of us can claim convict heritage.
Further, only people completely ignorant of Australian history would consider it something to be ashamed of. The vast majority of convicts were sent here for petty crimes. I am no more embarrassed by my convict heritage than I would suggest many Black Americans would be in having slave heritage.
Our respective ancestors were transported in chains, endured the lash and their blood, sweat and tears built the land. Why would anyone be embarrassed by that.
The biggest difference is my ancestors’ suffering ended after a few years and then they went free. Slaves did not.
@@brontewcat I agree. Also quite a few of the convicts were actually political prisoners.
@@alicemilne1444 That’s true