RATT 'Out of the Cellar' Inside the Album w/ Producer Beau Hill - full in bloom Interview
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- The full in bloom Interview w/
Producer / Engineer
Beau Hill
Inside the Album:
RATT
'Out of the Cellar'
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People forget how Big of a band RATT was !!! These guys were selling out large arena/ stadium world tours and every record went platinum minimum from 84-92. What a run!!!
Listening to these interviews is so interesting to me. These albums and songs were absolutely my life. I can remember riding in the car with my cousin and him handing me the invasion tape and seeing the album cover and hearing Lay it down and I’m sitting here at almost 51 years old and I can feel the nostalgia of those moments as if it was the moment. Thanks to Full in bloom and guests like Beau Hill.
Lay it Down is a great hook
Beau Hill was the 6th member of RATT. Nothing sounded like that album when it came out.
The "Sound" of Invasion was killer. It still resonates today. I can't Imagine what it would of been like without Beau!
It was so cutting i bought Winger cause of beau hill produced by..holy fuck
Was it overwaxed polished crap
btrentify
I remember reading an article back then where Red Beach said every single drum and cymbal hit on that first Winger album was triggered. Imagine how tedious that was. The album was over-production in a time when doing that was a REAL pain in the rear end.
@@btrentify lol
Craig Willis
I don’t know about MC, but I specifically remember Def Leppard and that was how the “I gotta know tonight... “ parts of “Hysteria” were recorded.
It was a clean Rockman direct to the board and the individual notes for that sequence were picked on separate tracks rather than the entire chord strummed. No wonder the album (including the one false start attempt at recording with Jim Steinman) cost so damn much LOL!
@Craig Willis winger was atrocious. Not a metallica fan at all
Out Of The Cellar and especially Invasion Of Your Privacy are MASTERPIECES!!! They both still sound just as amazing to me as they did over thirty years ago when I first listened to them as a little kid.
Before I knew anything about the impact of producers on an album, I noticed this guy Beau Hill’s name on all these albums that I still love to this day. This TH-cam channel really tells the story I have been waiting to hear for 35 years!
Thank you, Philip. Beau Hill Part II coming soon....all about RATT's Invasion of Your Privacy.
I hear ya. I have just over the last several years realized how important and involved a producer is to the sounds of an album. Many producers make the band into what we all hear.
@Smith Hart SM57 by Shure
Same here. This channel gives a great in depth on old analog equipment. Before there was Pro-Tools cant mess up lol. I used to have a reel to reel to try. If you love 1980s LA glam rock / metal this is this place. Thank you Full in bloom.
I agree! These interviews are a dream come true from 35 years ago. The wait was totally worth
I got a bootleg of Out of the Cellar back in high school. I played that and Shout at the Devil several times a day.
Ratt was always a favorite of mine over Crue ! Crue made Shout and it was just a fantastic record straight up Metal and to me it their best period not a bad or boring song on Shout !! The thing about Ratt was they were consistent each Ratt record sounded like Ratt with some experimentation but it always sounded like Ratt . WIth Crue Nikki had his plan to go Metal then Glam then Biker and you cant say Crue was consistent yes Vince sounded like Vince but each record after Shout averaged 3 or 4 good songs a record the rest very forgettable !!
@@DeadShred9 I agree. Ratt was definitely more consistent with their sound compared to Motley Crue. Nikki was just so messed up during the recording of Theater Of Pain and Girls,Girls, Girls big time. Ratt also had four strong songwriters and Nikki Sixx was the main songwriter for the most part for Motley Crue. I really love the first two albums from Ratt and Motley Crue big time.
My 6th grade year I remember nothing but Out of the cellar, shout at the devil and Stay Hungry.
DeadShred999 I see your point, but even though every Motley record was different, they all had huge hits on them. Example, Theater of Pain. My least favorite Crue record and prob their worst, but it still had 2 major hits, Home Sweet Home and Smokin in the Boys Room. It also had Louder than Hell and Raise your Hands to Rock which were good songs. They always had a couple of hits on every record. The rest of the record could suck, but the hits were good enough to make the album go platinum. Motley Crue can still fill a 20,000 seat arena whenever they want. Ratt can’t and I hate that because they were a killer band
I'm sure it was a cassette tape.. I use to play them songs untill I'd wear the tape out
It's crazy how Beau remembers things like what mics he used. Great interviews.
Glad to finally hear an interview involving RATT where it's not just band members blaming each other for their own problems, like children.
You mean like KISS?
I couldn’t agree more, it’s a joke.
Ratt would have imho had more success and would (nowadays) be a far bigger band without all the drama, infighting, member changes, etc
Favorite Cellar moment: the opening count in and string grab before "Lack of Communication". You could hear the distortion/overdrive.... a coveted new heavy sound that you knew would become a powerful guitar moment.
Super distinctive ! LA at night sound.
Lot of great pre song moments on Cellar..the noises on Trouble
me too!
That is the gnarliest riff.
The interplay between guitars in Ratt really set them apart from other heavy rock bands at the time. It's really a trip on headphones how just...BEAUtiful it is.
What Beau talks about with Warren's rig (starting at 28:00) is SUCH a guitar player mentality. Priceless!
Great interview. One of my favorite albums of the era and definitely one of the best sounding production wise.
The 2 songs from the EP that made in on Out Of Cellar were 'Back For More' and 'You're In Trouble'(european release only).
Man, the version of You’re in Trouble on that Euro EP sounds awesome!
Out of the cellar was ground breaking for it's time... Change my mind
It is a MASTERPIECE
Beau Hill is a genius !!
Ha ha great interview and funny story with Warren at 29.00 in the interview buying 25 amps and heads and end Up using the one from the last album 😅👍
Hope full in bloom does this for the Dancing Undercover record. I love that record, and would like to hear how things went during the recording process.
Robbin Crosby was the best songwriter in the band.
False
He was definitely the best baseball player.
@@BaneTheAssassin So who was?
@@dgenerated Pearcy
@@BaneTheAssassin if it wasn't for fcking Crosby fcko Stephen wouldn't have written half the good shit they did.
Luv Beau and his body of work. A plethora of bands owe him a basket of gratitude.
We love Beau! this just maybe my fave interview ever!, amazing stuff
Beau Hill sounds like a completely awesome guy, and totally competent!
Great interview. Thank you so much for this. I was in the 4th grade when I heard Out of the Cellar at a friend's house and it ignited my love and hunger music and to start playing guitar.
awesome interview. this is the kind of stuff you dont think about the making of those albums.
i personally could listen all day about stuff like this. from that period
RATT was my new love after Kiss n Van Halen. Stephen Pearcy was the new cool to me. Saw em on Invasion tour, summer 85. Great show, so much fun. Bon Jovi opened- 7800° F tour- they were really good, too
Saw that same tour in Texas.
Dude Kiss and Van Halen and ratt were my 3 loves
This is a excellent interview! So interesting to hear the behind the scenes stuff from that record. Beau really helped shape their sound.
I love hearing these stories.
I'm with you
Thank you so much for doing these interviews.
hill sounds like a great producer. Seems like a good guy too. He is upfront and honest. A real producer like him wont just sit back and just say “yeah thats fine, yea whatever its cool, close enough”, nope a real producer will get involved and help the band and bring the best out. Im sure he did some things that could have pissed off the band, but he is honest with that. I like how he isnt talking bad about the guys. Im a ratt fan, i listened to all the albums and i like a couple songs off the EP and first 3 records, after “Dancing Undercover” it was just some mediocre singles, after ‘86 ratt was more of touring band. Wouldn’t mind if they stopped making records and just toured. Robbin was the heart of ratt. Hill brought the best out of ratt. I miss the original lineup. The production on out,invasion and dance was amazing. Hill is a great producer.
My friends and I won our 12th grade air-band contest with Round and Round. Could never imitate that reverse vocal before the chorus, now I know why.
thank you for putting this up for us to hear. I can listen to these every day....totally in my wheelhouse
I had a chance to speak to Warren at NAMM about a 12-13 years ago. I had a chance to ask questions about the recording of OOTC. Warren said they used the Fender Champ for everything, there was no other amp. If you listen to OOTC and IOYP, you can definitely hear the difference in guitar sounds. Interestingly, Warren also told me they used Laney heads with Marshall cabs for IOYP. If you fast forward to Detonator, he used his 1973 Plexi for that album...just a wicked tone with his Charvel.
For OOTC, the fact that Blotz was playing the Simmon's electronic drums for toms, and Warren and Robbin playing those little Fender Champ amps....you would never have thought this album would have sounded so good. That's what happens when you're on a budget.
Thats very interesting lol!! That very Fender Champ amp is also shared by George Lynch among other "things" him and Warren shared. George can be seen using a Fender Champ amp in the Dokken home video Unchain The night where hes warming up backstage.😅
It’s funny hearing Beau breakdown some of his recording process, & somewhat confirms a suspicion I had.
In 97’ my band recorded at Juan Croucier’s house with Juan producing & engineering, this was shortly after Jake E. Lee recorded “Fine Pink Mist” there.
We didn’t have a huge budget, so we recorded and mixed at Juan’s in only 2 weeks.
I always suspected that Juan had basically learned from Beau, so much so, I bet when Beau’s recording to 2” tape he puts the Bass guitar on Track 1?
Juan was complimentary of Beau (the producer they worked with after Beau is an entirely different story).
Here’s a link to my Band’s stuff we recorded with Juan, back in the day, nothing much ever happened with it, the singer left the band shortly after the recording, we still eventually self released it, to try to recoup something, since we had sunk a good deal of money into it, even though the band was much different at that point.
th-cam.com/play/PLjbt2kxcqDc7YGrWmRV8YQsRCLMdcceeT.html
Sounds like ao many bands go through the same thing. I was so sick of the whole thing i didn't even open the guitar case let alone play for a couple years. We work our ass' off to get it out there and the singer quits!
Just had a listen to your material. There's a few songs that grabbed my attention. Sounds Good.
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Excellent interviews, Thank You for posting these 👍🏼
thanks for posting this stuff! Finally some in depth interviews.
awesome interview and awesome trigger to amazing memories!!!
Amazing information, sir. One of my all time favorite albums and one of my all time favorite guitar tones. Robbin Crosby RIP, what a legend.
The guy in the studio that made Stephen Pearcy sound like he could sing. I don’t think they had auto tune back then. Very impressive 😂
LOL.. agreed.
I would agree 100% and then I heard the Unplugged session of Ratt. Damn, Pearcy sounded just like the record there. He was awesome. Now, was that a fluke?
@@chadhero37 They did a lot of work on that in the studio.
I got to know the entire band over the years. All 5 members of the Out of the Cellar era. Stephen CAN sing, but it depends what mood he's in. TBH he is quite lazy and doesn't respect his audience. There are those rare days where is is pumped up and really wants to be there and wants to sing. on those days (MTV Unplugged is a great example) is he on fire and sounds just as good, if not, better than the recordings. Then there are those day, where he simply doesn't give a shit. He just wants to party, drink and fuck the chicks. Basically he just wants the gig to be over, get paid and party. I saw NUMEROUS shows (I knew some roadies back then) on the Reach for the Sky tour. At that point, the band was royally fucked. It was quite obvious Robbin had some serious problems and the band was falling apart at the seams. This was a case of a rock n roll band pushed to it's limits and was totally burned out, just on the road because the record company wanted to make their money before the band completely imploded....which it did.
"The guys" name is Beau Hill. You're some part-time wannabe talking out of your ass.
Well, Beau didn't work on the EP and there is nothing wrong with the vox.
Plenty of old performances where he sounds just like the lp.
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Thats pretty impressive in regards to his arrangement of Round and Round. No protools back then to easily do edits and experiment. Just a mixer, some outboard gear, and tape machines.
This is so great hearing this end of music production. I always learn so much, Thanks!
Great interview, please do more of these! The technical details are extremely interesting....
For sure worth taking in this video. So educational in the Nerd world of the studio work! Anyone that's ever been in a studio for even one song will get this!
RATT was one of the bands I gravitated toward in my youth (13 years old ) when I made that transition from listening to what was then classic rock radio and my parents music and finding my own taste and purchasing my own music. Out of the Cellar was one of the 12 cassettes I got for a penny when Columbia House used to have the music club.
RATT, Mötley Crüe, Def Leppard, Dokken, & Whitesnake among a few others were the soundtrack to my teens for sure but Def Leppard was the only one from that list and Crüe to an extent were the only ones that really stood the test of (my) time and I carried them to this day. I quit listening to RATT as much after Invasion of your Privacy and incidentally is my favorite album from those guys. IMO was their peak in songwriting, delivery and production.🔥
This sounds a lot like my experience. My first concert was Cheap Trick and Ratt Dancing Undercover tour.
Out of the cellar, shout at the devil, W.A.S.P.'s self-titled, Stay Hungry, Metal Health, Lick It Up, Bark at the Moon, Pyromania,
Damn, '83-'84 was the pinnacle of true gritty rock for the era. No other period was as magical or raw as this time. Seems 1985 was the last year of such monumental albums.
In comes '86, and this is where things get a little cluttered with popping up the albums and also for every Poison, there was 10 Warrant shitty Warrant., for every Cinderella, we had 20 Britny Foxs and nothing was as raw and true again. And, no GNRs debut cannot touch any albums that I named above
Ace of Scorps Tarot and Oracle ; Britney Fox blows Cinderella away. Although they are both too cool hard rock bands from Philly!
Britney fox was great much better that Cindirella That just have the first 2 good albums
I agree ! 83 / 84 was the pinnacle. Imagine what LA was like then !
You’d need the world to be destroyed by a nuclear war -
And wait two thousands years - for that brief moment to strike again.
Dokken tooth and nail
I agree to disagree with you son
Great Interview...Thanks!
This is so awesome!!!! I love hearing about what goes on during a making of an album. Beau Hill did a phenomenal job on every album he produced back in the 80's. I love albums like Ratt's first four studio albums, Twisted Sister's Love Is For Suckers, Winger's first two studio albums, Kix's Midnight Dynamite album, and Europe's Prisoners In Paradise album alot. As much as I love Ratt's Out Of The Cellar album it is a MASTERPIECE and my second favorite Ratt album. Invasion Of Your Privacy is my all time favorite Ratt album. It is the first Ratt album I ever listened to back in 1988 at barely 10 years old, and I fell in love with it big time. As much as I do love the sound on Ratt's first four albums, I do understand why after they did replace Beau Hill because they did start to sound too similar in sound after Invasion Of Your Privacy. I just wish that it wasn't Desmond Child because he is too much of a pop producer and Detonator is a decent album, but it is soft sounding compared to their first four albums.
This was great, thanks for posting.
R.I.P. to ROBBIN CROSBY who passed away 20 Years Ago Today at Age 42
Beau Hill was an amazing producer, top-tier in rock. Back in 1984, when I was a teen, the two cassettes that got wore-out on my Walkman were Def Leppards ' Pyromania' & Ratt's 'Out of the Cellar' The sound on both were stellar & HUGE! The ear-test does not lie. But obviously, Beau made much more with much less time & $. The guy is super talented & a musical savant. His established work shows this to be true. Such a fantastic insightful interview- In Bloom is the bomb!
I lived through all those years. But never had the knowledge that I have now about the industry, thanks to your show. Thanks dude.
Great interview,, he did a great job on those records, they still hold up and sound great today.
Loved this interview...
Love this interviews.
Great interview, I really appreciate the "techy" questions.
I have heard so much rock from this album over the years. More rock than I could ever have imagined.
The sound of Invasion's guitar amps are TOTALLY different in tone than Cellars'. I have a Laney 100 watt AOR head that sounds just like Invasions' guitar sound! Bea said they used the same Marshall for Warren AND Crosby for Cellar. It sounds absolutely true. But, Invasion's guitar tone I love, because it is warmer and a LOT less bright and edgy. Cellar's guitar sound is great, but I get "listener fatigue" after hearing it in it's entirety. I can listen to Invasion in it's entirety over and over again. I absolutely love everything about Invasion....
RATT ruled the roost,
They were so refreshing on each album
KIX was a really fun band. Saw them on the Midnight Dynamite tour. Exciting.
RATT was special. Like a shooting star. A crash and burn element. Two super albums.
I thought the mix on Out of the Cellar was just so killer. The opening riff of Wanted Man just sounds SO powerful
Guitars and band wow i remember when these albums tapes came out
One of the greatest!
Very cool 👍🏻
does anyone know/have Mr. Hill's Instagram or Twitter?? I NEED to congratulate him for the absolutely amazing job he has done with the remixing of KIX's Fuse 30 anniversary. I'm in tears! (of joy).
After I read this comment , I went on eBay and ordered the Fuse 30 Reblown album. I have always loved Kix's Blow My Fuse album and I would love to hear it with the best sound possible. Thanks
This is cool!
The EP is still my favorite
So interesting.
This is such an amazing walk down memory lane. Great interview and is it me or does Beau sound just like bob costas?
I’m shocked, shocked I tell you, that Beau had a hard time working with Bobby Blotzer 🤣🤣🤣🤣
One of my favorite interviews,,,, bit about Robbin’s comment “good thing the girls think Steven’s sexy cause he sure can’t sing”!!
Absolutely 😂🤣😅😂
Great album, personally I prefer invasion but it's a superb record. Such an underrated band too.
Absolutely!! Out Of The Cellar is a phenomenal album, but Invasion Of Your Privacy in my opinion is their MASTERPIECE! It is still one of my favorite albums of all time.
Beau was at the same level as Ted Templeman - who produced Van Halen's first 6 albums. After Ratt's first album, the band should have begging Beau to come back and produce thejr second album it was so good.
cool!
Great interview and just enough tech info so as not to lose people!
I can't believe they didn't want Beau after OOTC because that album sounds killer. One of the best sounding albums of that era.
Robbin Crosby was 🐀 RATT 🐀. If you look at the credits, he wrote all the intricate riffs!
Just saw Ratt, Kix, Warrant, and Firehouse last summer. Killer show! Warren is irreplaceable, but the kid they hired, Jordan Ziff, is a VERY accomplished, in-the-pocket player. I was 15ft from him for the whole show and he flubbed NOTHING!
I've been a Ratt fan since the 80's. I was listening. Jordan was PHENOMENAL!
Jordan is a great player, he also plays in Marty Friedmans band. It probably took him about a week to learn the whole Ratt catalog note for note. But it’s still not Ratt without Warren.
You’re In Trouble was the other song taken and rerecorded from the EP.
I have that KIX FUSE 30 Reblown Disc that I picked up at the M3 Festival- its great!!! So much better!!!
Ratt best album ever
their best album
No doubt.
Would love to see Beau Hill put on a masterclass for producing. Or, even a simple A-Z class...what gear he uses, preamps, etc. I'd pay a lot of money to know exactly how he got that sound on Invasion. The entire album has a killer ambience to it, and the instruments sound spectacular (short of the drums...they sound a bit too processed).
AWESOME !!!😁🎈😁🎈😁🎈😁🎈😁🎈😁🎈😁🎈😁🎈😁🎈😁🎈
Love those Avalon's
Did Beau Hill indicate how Robbin and Warren decided who performed the primary lead on the songs? It's really evident who does what if you are Ratt fan, there are patterns / styles that each has that makes them identifiable, but curious how they determined it. I was also curious about Blotzer's drum sound on Out Of The Cellar, his toms have almost a Simmons electronic drum sound. I know in one of the videos (Back for More?) you can clearly see Blotzer has Simmons toms, but I'm not sure if they were used on any of the songs. Any idea?
I don't know if I could have worked with a producer. They're always changing things up.
MIDNIGHT DYNAMITE SOUNDS KILLER
Agreed. I just talked to Beau today and, once again, I told him how much I loved that album.
Sounds like electronic drums on Ratt records?
Best - to blast in the car - during October nights in New England !
he sounds like the robot voice on the weather radio.
what would you like him to sound like???
who said I didn't like it?@@mikalo05
@@mikalo05 .....Morgan Freeman?
He does LMAO!!
Working with myself as a vocalist, I usually keep 75percent of take 2 or 3. Then I usually fix one line in the third verse. I never complain.
I swear young Warren looks like my girlfriends super hot mom
is there this version with the hole/stop available on ytube??
funny RATT's manager was Milton Berle's nephew, explaining how Milton Berle was on their video,
Beau was like a baby sitter dealing with guys getting them to go along for their own good, sounds funny but must have been stressful to deal with
Marshall was a creepy dude. Just really uncomfortable vibe. I dunno, it was probably just me.
When Beau was talking about remixing Kix's album Midnight Dynamite? The former leader of Kix was no longer with the band. Was he referring to Donnie Purnell? He never gave up the name.
Yes.
he re did Blow My Fuse...which he did not originally do...get your facts straight
he did produce Midnight Dynamite
Correct. Bring from Baltimore, they got a big break to open for David Lee Roth on EEAS tour if I recall as a one-time favor gig in front of their hometown, and Whiteman blew it and completely pissed off the DLR camp by playing attempting to play way over allotted time an opening act.
I don't know if the show was hinging on Kix getting the rest of the tour, but if I recall they pulled the plug on Kix at that Capital Center show in Largo, MD, literally.
Amateur move on Kix's part regardless of it being their hometown fans. 👎
Remember records? Sad but true
Mike Slamer worked vigorously on the first two Warrant albums, and Reb Beach did the same on Twisted Sisters Love is for Suckers album. Do Beach and Slamer get royalties for their work?
I'm not sure if they received residuals...maybe a performance royalty, but I don't know for sure. I'm talking to Beau next week, and I'll ask him.
@@fullinbloom Thank you. I remember hearing about Slamer on the Classic Metal Show a couple of years ago. He played some amazing solos on both Warrant records.
Tapes and albums. Cheers everyone.
What's the buffer music in these interviews with Beau? It's a great song.
It's by a group called Fool of Fate
@@fullinbloom Thanks! It's a great track!
no wonder Bobby was so pissed.
Out of the Cellar had a lot in common soundwise with 1984 and Pyromania, electric and acoustic drums with Paiste 2002s, the guitars had that EVH sheen to them, big harmonies...It was a great time for fresh, new rock sounds. By the time Guns n Roses hit, bands were either retro purists or completely fabricated in the digital realm. OOTC and Invasion were really innovative.
@25:20 "everybody wanted to make sure their part was distinguishable as them"...haha...everyone knows we were all listening to Warren.
white socially awkward athletic guitar geeks listened to warren. everyone else listened to the MUSIC.
Robbin Crosby was RATT. He was the soul of that band.
About the opening "OH Yeah!!!!!!!" of You're In Trouble. Is that Juan and whose idea was that?