Why does Ahsoka’s ship have such a weird design?
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We take a look at Ahsoka Tano's homeship the T6-1974 Jedi Shuttle from Slayn & Korpil. Its one of the more elegant and weird designs in the star wars galaxy.
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Can you make a theory that sabine wren maybe can create like her own lightsaber i know it isn't going to happen but what if sabine losses ezra lightsaber
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Cr90 as Ahsoka ship with practical possibility of a kyber crystal energy system and weapons (cough cough ... Jo Casta Nu Lightsaber gun and Death star super laser types ) by huyangs lightsaber knowledge and she did have a CR90 before in rebels and as Huyangs crucible was a CR90 esk ship . And it was a more capable and can be highly modified for dogfighting and knifefighting too like how Anakin used a corvette against droid fighters and kyber crystal weapon systems (maybe synthetic or purified sith crystals) or energy system ?
It also has a rear gunner, something that clone wars one did not have.
What lightsaber? The new Disney canon called them laserswords.
I would just like to point out that what ever breed it is, Alan's bird has been exposed to so much star wars over the years that it now sounds more like a blaster than a bird
Wait I have a bird?
@@GenerationTech that's not your bird going nuts in the back ground audio?
@@GenerationTechyou can really hear it starting around the 5 minute mark...
It’s probably just a bird outside
@@GenerationTech 😳
_Allan._
_Listen closely._
_Grab your nearest lightsaber..._
_... SLOWLY..._
_... and carefully leave that house._
*Don't look back.*
Well, as we can clearly see in the last shoot, the T6 from Ahsoka is modefied with an additional engine AND a rear mounted turret.
GOOD. It might actually survive some future eng-- *aaah, who am I kidding. It's getting blown up yo smithereens.*
@@MrDibara Unless they're planning declare that Ahsoka's T6 is one of the shuttles that fought at Exegol.
Hmm. I wonder what solo she could hire to heavily modify the ship for her personal needs? Ah who am I kidding, din will just point her in the way of that other mechanic.
@@dcincco Honestly plausible. Din WOULD know where to go for modding your own ship. _(R.I.P., Razorcrest_ 😭 _)_
It also seems to be a bit bigger with a slightly different cockpit
It’s nice to see more of the interior design of the T-6 shuttle. Not much screen time of the ship during the Clone Wars series
My favorite thing about the Ahsoka series so far is how Star Wars it feels. Shin using a probe droid, the music swelling as Ahsoka progresses through the temple puzzle, the opening with stone cold Baylon.
filoni took a lot of visuals from the original six movies and other media. on a more meta level, i found myself reminded of the intentional parallels between the original trilogy and the prequels. it's like poetry, it rhymes. makes me very excited for the coming episodes.
The musix was very star wars
I like it much more already than mandalorian. Part of it because star wars just is that part of mistery/ ancient beings and the force which gives it such a nice and interesting story. But also just being more of the star wars we know makes it better for me.
minor correction: it's not E.T.A. shuttle, but Eta, as in, the greek letter. Ayy-tah (sort of). Slick video, keep up the good work!
9:30 - Huyang's quarters are not a repurposed galley. The kitchen is actually the room symetrically oposite ( port side of the ship ) to Huyang's quarters. (I was in charge of modeling it in 3d for the scene where Ahsoka goes into it when Sabine first comes on board that you can see at 8:23 ).
That's sick!
So…. Where’s the bathroom? And since it was designed by insects, is it feasible for human type beings?
Are you able to shed any light on what, to me, seems to be an impossible loading ramp design? (I'm not blaming you since the design was already in place)
_edit: __4:11__ as an example; also when they make their emergency landing on the planet (not in this video)_
From what I can tell, they exit far away from the landing legs... But a humanoid, Ahsoka for instance, is basically the same height as the wing is thick; therefore, a person would have no room to walk out, as seem in some scenes. 😕
I just chalked it up to those in charge being all "Oh well, it's fiction anyways" about it, and saying it's fine. Which, that precedent was already set by Mando's N1, which CLEARLY has a protruding engine *directly* under the Droid Pod. That was fine when it was just Grogu's compartment... but when he talks R5 to Mandalore and R5 exits... 😂 Well, somehow R5 turned fluid, and made it through a tight S-bend, in order exit _aft_ of that engine! _(a good 4ft behind the droid's viewport on top)_
I don't let them detract from the show, of course, but are small oversights I found a bit surprising. 🥴
Anyways, great work on the model. There was so much beautiful detail in that scene!
@@TimPimentel3006 Keep in mind that our studio was not tasked with modeling the Whole T6 shuttle : we were only tasked to model the set extension of the kitchen for the live set and the opinions that follow are my own, not Lucasfilms, ILM or even the studio I work for :)
As a ship nerd I respect the idea of the question, but that's not something I have as an answer nor do I think anyone spent time thinking about for now.
I know that it's something that is thought about when creating ships for star citizen ( for instance ) as the ships are fully playable spaces and seen from any angles imaginable, but for something like a TV show or a movie, it's not critical to nail down at the time of making it for it to work for 99 percent of viewers to enjoy it regardless.
Think of the millennium falcon. Sure, people over the years ended up fitting a layout into the exterior shape of the ship weather it was fans or lucasfilms contracted artist. But in A new hope, it was just disconnected live action sets and a maquette of the ship. Same thing here !
Hope this helps :)
@@DUKE_of_RAMBLE Keep in mind that our studio was not tasked with modeling the Whole T6 shuttle : we were only tasked to model the set extension of the kitchen for the live set and the opinions that follow are my own, not Lucasfilm's, ILM or even the
studio I work for :)
Like I said in my comment answer to @TimPimentel3006's comment, the ship itself and any scene that goes on inside it should be understood as separate. Live action set are designed to be eazy to film in and around and maquettes are modeled to be pretty :) Hence some disparities are bound to happen.
Since I cannot speak to any decisions that were made by people at ILM or Lucasfilm's as I do not work there, I can only guess. I'd say they had to abide by established size lore from the clone wars TV show version and use that for the show. More than likely that animation model did not take into account human sized inhabitants. But again, this is just a guess on my part, not facts.
As for your : " those in charge being all "Oh well, it's fiction anyways" about it, and saying it's fine. " , I'm sure it happens/happened in the past, but I personally roll like that ! I like to give purpose and sense to everything I do when it's under my power even if it will seem insignificant to you guys ! I am convinced there is a large majority of passionate people like me working on the shows, but keep in mind it's a huge machine ( the movie making and visual/special effects process ) and time is finite resource. Oversights are bound to happen.
"Anyways, great work on the model. There was so much beautiful detail in that scene!"
Thanks but we did not do the common room ( as it was a live set ) and I doubt you saw much of the details of the kitchen itself as ahsoka covers most of it and it's quite small in frame. ( last thing I want is to steal credits ) But I hope the set designers and set crafting people who worked on it see this and take the compliment :)
I wonder about the massive VOLUME of the wings. No sophisticated modern real world aircraft fails to take advantage of wing volume for fuel or something. And these wings are massive. One would think a better design would have been to locate the engines in the wings rather than using main hull space. To me, the wings represent nothing but exaggerated vulnerability to collision or hostile fire.
Technically in Star Wars these things are sfoils and they’re basically radiators for heat
@@GenerationTech Yeah they even have big radiators on the space station irl and it is not firing turbo lasers
That would look pretty cool, even if it would be an in universe nightmare mechanically.
@@ironfist7789 I'm going to write my congressman to demand an answer for why the ISS isn't firing turbo lasers!
I'm betting the repulsors needed for atmospheric flight and landing are in the wings. As well as the shield generators.
It is an interesting detail that when the wings are vertical it brings to mind imagery of the old Hammerhead Cruisers, while having it able to rotate ties into Mandalorian designs. Inspirational and horrifying all at the same time, if it had weapons.
An elegant ship, Hera and Ashoka wondering with shock as to why an industry hired ex imperial shows they know next to nothing on how the galaxy worked. It is a shame how the NR came bringing justice to those greedy employees.
Wait till you hear about the US after ww2, NASA is the result
It also appears in Tales of the Jedi and in Obi-Wan's book "Padawan" there is mention of a T-5
Although the standard model is unarmed i refuse to believe that this particular one is. Especially with the visible rear turret.
Huyang's shop appears to be the actual maintenance shop for the ship. We see these in many Star Wars ships in this size range.
I like how the retractable table is literally the floor. Like, c'mon, you want to use that for eating and you have to clean it every single time.
It's my experience that cargo holds, not the central meeting area are for romance.
Unlike Ahsoka's brief cameos in The Mandalorian, her own show seems to require prior knowledge of the "Rebels" animated series (75 episodes + 4 shorts).
Yep
Not really. Ahsoka is in the rebel series only a handful of episodes. You need to know it nor to understand Sabine maybe but it looks like they're changing her character enough that her backstory in Rebels is not as relevant. I think it was quite a shock for people to see ahsoka in mandalorian especially with Luke. Anyone who just watched the movies assumed there were no Jedi besides Luke after return of the Jedi. But now there's this very strong, older and wiser force-weilder around to give him advice and support? Where the heck was she after Empire?
@@JenniferKokoski I have now watched all the Rebels episodes, and yes, you do need to see it to understand Sabine, Ezra Bridger and Thrawn. It also explains who Hera is to the group.
There are a lot of questions, like why Sabine lives on Lothal, and not with Hera, Bo-Katan or Clan Wren? When and why did Ahsoka Tano take on Sabine as a padawan, and does Sabine have some Force abilities? During Rebels, Sabine showed no Force abilities that Kanan Jarrus recognized even during Dark Saber training, but she was very undisciplined.
The bouncing ball ejection seats were, irl, most likely inspired by the landing system of the Spirit and Opportunity Mars rovers, which inflated and bounced like beach balls when they hit the surface of Mars.
I would note, compared to the original during the Clone Wars, Ahsoka’s has a 4th engine, increasing its speed and maneuverability, a tail gun, allowing for some defensive return fire, and better shielding, as it was able to withstand the fighter attack AND turbo lasers during the mission on Denab. So Ashoka obviously remembered her experiences on previous missions using older versions and installed some much needed upgrades.
I loved this ship from the start when I saw it in the clone wars. It’s just so elegant
It's as non-elegant as a walrus... What about adding purposeless bulk and mass to a ship for no reason makes it elegant?
@@DrTheRich yeah, admittedly it has quite a bit of bulk to it, but the way it moves and the presence of the ship more than makes up for it
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My pleasure all the very best to you and your team 🇬🇧
With the engines, main quarters and cockpit being in the center fuselage... the wings don't look to serve much purpose. I guess similar to the Lambda-class Imperial Shuttle and the U-Wing, the wings could house the repulsors needed to get the ship off the ground and the shield generators needed for defense.
it's the rule of cool taken to the ridiculous... all these things you mention are shown to be able to fit in way smaller packages... To me this is one of the worst ship designs in terms of sensibilities...
Sounds like a tiny AT-AT battle going on outside and it just adds to the video!
I love your videos. I know you said t6 has no weapons and ahsoka t6 has ball turret just above the engine so that after market upgarde.
Ship makes me think of the MISC Reliant, especially that rotating wing.
The Reliant does have an unique look to it. I honestly would love to own a Millennium Falcon level modified Tana in real life.
If you need an idea for a video could you do a comparison between Morgan Elsbeth and Meirin from Jedi: Survivor. Both night sisters and both survived the massacre, one used the pain of that tragedy to inflict pain on others while the other chose to try and stop anyone from experiencing what she did.
it not having weapons kinda makes sense for jedi before the clone wars or even ambassadors they aren't there to end lives or cause problems also times were more peaceful for the most part. i also just noticed that there is a turret on the back in the last few clips you showed from the ahsoka show so it seems it's been modified to have defenses.
Judging by the pictures of the official LEGO set (called "LEGO® Star Wars 75362 Ahsoka Tanos T-6 Jedi Shuttle") it also has two canons mounted on the wings right next to the cockpit, but the prior iteration "LEGO Star Wars T-6 Jedi Shuttle 7931" which looks like it's meant to be the shuttle that Anakin crashed also included two rocket launchers as part of the main hull so the new LEGO set including those canons must be taken with a grain of salt
I once had an '87 924s. Loved those pop-up headlights. Yeah, it was red.
This ship reminded me of the Diamond Class cruiser of the CIS. 😁
The rebels Vader design is also based off the OG drawings.
5:20 there is a large discrepancy between the mass of the cockpit and the wings. it would make sense for a cockpit which might only include armour, electronics and the pilot, with everything else in the body of the starfighter, but wings which probably include fuel, cargo, radiators, are different. not to mention it being longer which means more force needed to rotate the damn thing.
Wonder if the Rusty Eagle (Rebel infantry transport) from SW: Force Commander was also designed by Slayn & Korpil
I'd love it if you would do a video on the Stinger Mantis from Jedi Fallen Order and Jedi Survivor. That has some neat features as well.
I wanted to make an interactive 3D model of Ahsokas T6 ship. It’s not the best looking inside but I managed to make.
However my problem was that I couldn’t understand how she had all the interior space and I’m trying to fit everything in a narrow space.
What I didn’t understand is that her ship is different than the typical Jedi T6/T9. The one I made has the wings attached to the rear and thrusters while ahsoka wings are attached to the neck, allowing the rest of the body to be expanded.
The shuttle Palpatine used was not the Eta-class, it was a Theta-class T-2c shuttle. It just shares a similar design because it was made by the same manufacturer as the Lambda and Eta (as well as Sentinel, Nu, and Omicron).
If it were up to me , Ahsoka Would have had a highly modified customised CR90 , with star fighter like capabilities and role than a Cargo corvette role . With a Hanger ofcourse for Ahsokas Starfighter and gunships and shuttles , mostly a newer specially designed stealth (not cloaking) heavy Jedi starfighter , An Nubian fast attack craft (gunship) and some other capable starfighters (x wing ) and a squadron of modified tri droids , a synthetic kyber crystal beam laser at prow , and a effective laser ion defence and offensive Torpedoes missile systems etc , and dark mode too
Lol what? That's way too much for a personal craft what you described sounds like a flagship 😂
love the idea of people walking all over mytable and seats, very hygienic
I hope Alan makes multiple videos per episode, it will help get me to the next episode in the series.
Having been a Star Wars fan practically my whole life, I have never understood the design of a lot of the ships. If this ship was horizontal, and not vertical, I would really dig it. However, this (like the B-wing) is just weird
And WHY the variable wing position?
Oh, to confuse its enemy. (SERIOUSLY?)
No, yea, no... for greater lift during atmospheric re-entry. (Then why not keep the wings in that position permanently - as wings in space make no sense.)
Oh, well, that's because it is a MYSTERY SHIP. (Come on - MAN! Don't get dementia on me in the middle of the conversation...)
REAL REASON: It loos cool to see it spin, man.
A retractable table.. the idea is really cool... but, the germs and dirt and other things creatures of all sorts would bring in on the soles of footwear would be gross. Maybe the table has some sort of invisible shield on it to protect it against floor gunk. Or, use the force to wash it clean before use.
The T6 seems to have the flaw that the inside is way bigger than the outside allows. (time index 3:46) The U-wing was no big ship, not even having separate crew quarters. That meeting room is huge in the cut-scenes. Compare the size of the cockpit to the meeting room. It's shows well that the ship would not fit its interior.
The rotating wing does still seem like overcomplicated design without much reason, but I suppose Star Wars has a lot of that and it is a cool design.
Me and the Jedi goon squad: out committing war crimes
T-6 S Foils get stuck: another happy landing
Well made video !
A few heavy blaster cannons or lasers would be very useful... ambassador ship or not.
4:30 no way that air locked at the bottom lol it’s on a lip of the ship
Why make the wings so big then decide to rotate because they block vision.
I like all the walking and looking at stuff in the series...gives it that Bert I. Gordon feel...walking and looking the tv show.😂
Reminds me of the B-wing that Hera flew in rebels
Those rotating wings would be a maintenance nightmare.
I’ll admit to not being a huge SW nerd, so forgive what’s likely a dumb question lol. But why does this ship not have a dedicated astro-mech? Do ships of this size not need them?
Yea basically astromechs are for calculating hyperspace jumps and on smaller starfighters you usually don’t have large nav computers installed, some fighters don’t even have hyperdrives. This shuttle is built for transport so it most likely has a powerful ship computer
I think we have seen enough light-saber stab wounds to merit a comparison and if they were survivable or not. I'd love to see an analysis of the stabby deaths in Star Wars, ie. Qui-Gon, the inquisitor, Reva and now Sabine. To me it seems like consistancy is out the window. again.....
consistency? in my science fantasy space fairytale about space wizard-knights? i think not!
Disney does have a consistency problem. They’re consistently bad.
The thing I don't like about this ship is the size of that wing. It's only the script that allows the pilot to find a space to land. Traffic has to be routed around it so other people can find parking spots.
I don't think ships in Star Wars factor in lift when it comes to flying. Especially considering that ships can essentially just hover. Like when you showed her ship docked in the vertical configuration
I need to see a schematic of the T6, idk how they have all that room.
I always assume that the backwater planets jedi generally do their business on have scrapyards where they use the force to assemble hodgepodges of hulls and engines, obviously she started with a T6 and had to modify it to get it running.
Isn't it the ship Dooku and Qui Gon used in TOTJ
Who designed the B-Wing, again?
Joint venture between the mon cala designer quarrie and slayn & korpil for the manufacturing
Ahsoka would of done massive upgrades to the ship she would of learned it from her master
I thought it was because the StarWars Universe exist in a pouch on Batman’s utility belt.
Doing something just because of how it looks is one thing but taking into account the species of the designers is why people love lore so much.
I constantly go back to Conan and Robert E Howard. He wrote a universe and creation story for the planet and people before the story. This is going along the same lines. It is sad that creators don't understand this.
I fly a ship like this in Star Citizen
ALLAN YOU ARE POO DOO SNIFFER !
I mean to be fair, most original designs of the filoni-verse are pretty silly looking, and most exceptions are holdovers from the EU. There's at least a part of the lucasfilm studio that feels obligated to put as many moving parts and exposed wires on stuff as possible like they have to one-up the B-Wing and V-19 Torrent at every turn.
I like it aerodynamic
An idea for a future video might be how/why Huyang now works for/takes orders from Ahsoka since she now has no official ties to the order and thus no authority to ask anything of it (Heck, technically Baylon might actually have that kind of authority). It might also be fun to discuss what would happen if it underwent a routine memory wipe too.
Huyang has never had his memory wiped in over 500 years
Well maybe he just thought about it and placed Ahsoka as as close to the jedi as they come nowadays
Star Wars ships almost always seem silly in their design. I wonder if the table and chairs are self cleaning since you walk on top of them in their down position.
Anyone hear the bird at 6:47
9:52 i think i see a rear-facing turret (twin laser?)
Anyone else hear that bird chirping in the background 😂
ok the actual Ewing looks a lot better than that weird legends one with the third barrel like a lot
but if they wanna use a 2 gun ship... modernised Z95? no?
i like the coment about the pop up lights in cars that msde me laugh
Katana wakizashi style
The rotating wing is completely nonsensical. There's no "vertical" in space, and the ships have artificial gravity. And why doesn't it fly with the wing horizontal in atmosphere? Maybe there's a reason, but the vertical wing makes it a much bigger weapons target in atmosphere. Silly.
This ship feels way too big to be a shuttle. It has the size of a small freighter or yacht.
without the cargo space or living space...
It has aft guns.
I'm always amazed by the level of detail involved in what is complete make believe. This is all fiction. The commentator speaks so seriously as if he believes what he's saying.
I will definitely buy the new T6 shuttle of LEGO.
Has anyone got a interior layout of the T6 shuttle?
Looks kinda like someone jumped on a banana but left a gap between their feet in the middle.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they stole it straight off Deviant Art.
I know you won't any time soon but
Day 152 PLEASE DO MORE TACTICS VIDEOS AND STRUCTURES LIKE THE CIS NAVY STRUCTURE AND RANKS
You spelled Ahsoka wrong in the title.
there is only the x70b phantom
the rotating wings make no sense
That rotation is stupid.
Ahhhhhh I bought a replica saber a month ago lol
You just had to mention pop up headlights. Those things never should have existed at all, stupid, useless, always get jammed, dimming and wires issues...they devalue classic vehicles, a 1964 Corvette Stingray with popups is worth $10,000 less than a standard '64 Stingray with the lights behind a glass shell and matches the aesthetic of the 6 rear lights. My advice to anyone buying a classic muscle car with popups, replace them immediately with LED standards, it's an upgrade worth paying for, so is replacing a 4 speed auto transmission for a 6 speed manual one. Trust me, you won't regret it.
It has a weird design? I mean after the Twilight i think any ship design looks fine.
To sell more toys. Can't sell a billion dollars worth of toys if they're all the same shape.
Didn't we see these ships in the clone wars?
Yes. It's a T-6 Shuttle. The red-colored shuttle was last seen in the final episode of Star Wars Rebels and in the first episode of Ahsoka, which takes place soon after.
@@dougadams9419 exactly so idk why people are saying they never seen that ship before
the birds agree
Royalties!!! Duh...
Since when is the bwing not Made by moncals?
Yeah; that is interesting. ;-;
ashoka's ship is not weird, it looks very similar to the one she/anakin used in clone wars cartoon
FLORIDA. This guy is from florida
One of the Artists on Ashoka was playing Homeworld, got high, and did the design overnight.
The east german Trabant 601 deLuxe was the best transportation vehicle ever created by mankind and far superior to anything the Empire or Republic ever created.