Would love to see the VT-7 with a hard bypass. Raising the threshold as a 'bypass' obviously leaves the gain in play... But wow what a beautiful, round yet detailed sound. Incredible design.
Pardon me for responding to a three year old comment, but it would not be the same at all. The response of each frequency band in the compressor would be distinctly different from a single compressor on the full range, even one with a highpassed sidechain. This is also ignoring the fact that adding an entire circuit for another compressor would nearly double the cost of materials it'd take to make the hardware.
@@williambrewer3150 I didn't say it was the same. How could it be? It's a completely different architecture. I said it could yield the same results with more flexibility. That was the point of inventing multiband compression.
@@chansetwo It wouldn't yield the same results. Conceptually, multi-band compression takes input of a select portion of the frequency band and so it can affect a select portion of the frequency band output. High passing the sidechain of a single band compressor is essentially taking a select portion of the frequency band and affecting the entire frequency band output. While they're relatives of each other in concept, the use case for mixing and mastering varies greatly between the two.
@@williambrewer3150 It can sound the same. Every radio and television station you have heard in the last 30 years uses multiband compression. Can you tell it's multiband? No, it it is working correctly, you can't. That's the point. It's called fidelity. They can sound just like a wideband compressor or do things a WB compressor never could. You're also wrong that you have to add more compressors to make multiband compression. This isin't 1976
@@chansetwo I'm not sure what you mean by "fidelity". I haven't heard that term used in this context before. In fact, I would argue that radio and television rely partly on the lack of fidelity. if you're listening to SiriusXM, most audio is compressed (bit compression) to a very small 64 kb/s. The compression algorithm will already impart a lot of shaping and general distortion that multi-band compressors actually help directly compensate for. But they perform well because they're specifically made to function in those environments. The Fearn compressor is made to function well in tracking and mastering, which means, sans the tube's saturation, the compressor should impart very neutral tone, which multi-band compressors are explicitly designed against. You can actually hear the effects of a multi-band compressor, even when there's no compression occurring. One of the side effects of real-time band-splitting is that it adds a phase flip that cuts straight through spectrum for every band of compression you have. If you ever wondered why talkshow hosts can have such a "liquid" sound to their voice, it's in part because of that distortion to the phase. This effect is partly why multi-band compression is sometimes avoided in mastering. If someone's kick is too loose, then adding more delay to the low-end can ruin its punch. I am curious though, how would you make a multi-band compressor with only one circuit to control the audio?
The artist is French singer/songwriter Anne Legras. I obtained the track from Tom VDH, who produced it, with permission to use it in this video. Sadly, the album this song is from was never released, and Tom has lost contact with her.
@@DWFearnHazelriggIndustries Glad you responded. I think you should finish it, if you have the whole file. It's an incredible song and I'd love to hear it on my ATC's finalized with your equipment. I'm sure the artist would approve as long as you're not making money off it. Also, I'm selling a ton of my gear in order to procure a vt-2, vt-5, and vt-7 . I'm an audio engineer by trade, and songwriter by passion. I've never heard anything like this gear, and it's exactly the way I hear things in my head. I'll be going into BURL conversion, and monitoring with ATC's. I just wish it wasn't so expensive to snag your EQ!
@@thomasleahy7922 I have received permission from the producer to share this song file with you. Send me your email address and I will send you the file. Anyone else that wants to do that is welcomed. Everyone must understand that this is for their listening only. dwfearn@dwfearn.com
That excellent song choice can be found here th-cam.com/video/2Ue1CasfbDk/w-d-xo.html It doesn't sound as rich as it does going through Doug's stereo chain here!
Useful for performers “rich preformers”
Would love to see the VT-7 with a hard bypass. Raising the threshold as a 'bypass' obviously leaves the gain in play... But wow what a beautiful, round yet detailed sound. Incredible design.
beautiful ;-)
Rather than a LF link switch, why not incorporate multi-band compression? Seems like that would yield the same results and add even more flexibility.
Pardon me for responding to a three year old comment, but it would not be the same at all. The response of each frequency band in the compressor would be distinctly different from a single compressor on the full range, even one with a highpassed sidechain. This is also ignoring the fact that adding an entire circuit for another compressor would nearly double the cost of materials it'd take to make the hardware.
@@williambrewer3150 I didn't say it was the same. How could it be? It's a completely different architecture. I said it could yield the same results with more flexibility. That was the point of inventing multiband compression.
@@chansetwo It wouldn't yield the same results.
Conceptually, multi-band compression takes input of a select portion of the frequency band and so it can affect a select portion of the frequency band output.
High passing the sidechain of a single band compressor is essentially taking a select portion of the frequency band and affecting the entire frequency band output.
While they're relatives of each other in concept, the use case for mixing and mastering varies greatly between the two.
@@williambrewer3150 It can sound the same. Every radio and television station you have heard in the last 30 years uses multiband compression. Can you tell it's multiband? No, it it is working correctly, you can't. That's the point. It's called fidelity. They can sound just like a wideband compressor or do things a WB compressor never could. You're also wrong that you have to add more compressors to make multiband compression. This isin't 1976
@@chansetwo I'm not sure what you mean by "fidelity". I haven't heard that term used in this context before. In fact, I would argue that radio and television rely partly on the lack of fidelity. if you're listening to SiriusXM, most audio is compressed (bit compression) to a very small 64 kb/s. The compression algorithm will already impart a lot of shaping and general distortion that multi-band compressors actually help directly compensate for.
But they perform well because they're specifically made to function in those environments. The Fearn compressor is made to function well in tracking and mastering, which means, sans the tube's saturation, the compressor should impart very neutral tone, which multi-band compressors are explicitly designed against.
You can actually hear the effects of a multi-band compressor, even when there's no compression occurring. One of the side effects of real-time band-splitting is that it adds a phase flip that cuts straight through spectrum for every band of compression you have. If you ever wondered why talkshow hosts can have such a "liquid" sound to their voice, it's in part because of that distortion to the phase.
This effect is partly why multi-band compression is sometimes avoided in mastering. If someone's kick is too loose, then adding more delay to the low-end can ruin its punch.
I am curious though, how would you make a multi-band compressor with only one circuit to control the audio?
What song is this? link?
The artist is French singer/songwriter Anne Legras. I obtained the track from Tom VDH, who produced it, with permission to use it in this video. Sadly, the album this song is from was never released, and Tom has lost contact with her.
@@DWFearnHazelriggIndustries Glad you responded.
I think you should finish it, if you have the whole file. It's an incredible song and I'd love to hear it on my ATC's finalized with your equipment.
I'm sure the artist would approve as long as you're not making money off it.
Also, I'm selling a ton of my gear in order to procure a vt-2, vt-5, and vt-7 . I'm an audio engineer by trade, and songwriter by passion. I've never heard anything like this gear, and it's exactly the way I hear things in my head.
I'll be going into BURL conversion, and monitoring with ATC's.
I just wish it wasn't so expensive to snag your EQ!
@@thomasleahy7922 I have received permission from the producer to share this song file with you. Send me your email address and I will send you the file. Anyone else that wants to do that is welcomed. Everyone must understand that this is for their listening only. dwfearn@dwfearn.com
Your Love - Anne Legras
th-cam.com/video/2Ue1CasfbDk/w-d-xo.html
That excellent song choice can be found here th-cam.com/video/2Ue1CasfbDk/w-d-xo.html It doesn't sound as rich as it does going through Doug's stereo chain here!