I was stopped by snow at Dead Horse Pass once and had to turn around. I am also old enough to remember when you could drive over Hart’s Pass, down to Ruby. :)
@ferratilis yes, we have experienced the gates. Ditching, piles of dirt. We are surrounded by green diamond, husband work for them 40 years and we have to buy permits to step onto their land. A little bitter, but understand why. Our 4 wheeling days are over now except on you tube.
These are gorgeous views. I need to go see this place in the Spring or Summer. I hope it's not crowded with people. It's like everyone wants to go camping at the same time as me. Very annoying.
I really like outdoor videos that focus on cooking and have shots of the food cooking. This is one of the most important things to include in any outdoor related video. Cooking, cooking, cooking. Could watch it for hours. Often renders the main content irrelevant and stupid. Excellent video.
@@justindozone2160 one of my favorite things to do is try to make a legitimate gorme meal in the backcountry. It turns a good experience into a memorable experience.
Think the road was a little improved the second time I went up there, first time was very freaky - passing a big truck at the worst spot, inches from the side. Pretty wild driving up top too to that tiny parking area over 7000 feet
I took this trip for the first time in the late 50's. The road was very dangerous and the lookover at Dead Horse Point was scary as hell. In those days the remains of the wagon were still visible. Spent a week at a camp that you could drive to (no longer the case) down on the river. did this 2 or 3 times. I won't name the area because I don't wish to advertise it. Stunningly beautiful with fishing from a time long past. My neighbor was up there serval times a decade or so ago. They had to take 4 wheelers down to the old miner shacks (now gone). I don't know if that is even possible now by 4 wheelers. As far as the lower 48 go... this is remote. DO NOT go if not fully stocked.
Washington must have been great in the 1950s. I've tried to find some old footage of the state from around then but can't find too many videos. WA is still a great place but a lot of changes have hurt the state, which is a shame because it is truly a great one. Maybe even the best.
Yep, did it years ago and it is indeed a tad scary, but you just hug the uphill side and it actually is fine (or WAS fine). Maybe it has changed over the years?
That looks like a really scary and treacherous road, which does force people to slow down and use extreme caution. In terms of the number of fatalities per vehicle miles traveled it’s not high on the list (thankfully). The most dangerous road in WA is US-101 through Shelton (fatalities/VMT) followed closely by I-5 through Seattle.
I would think if you looked at it from the standpoint fatalities compared to cars traveled...it'd be quite a bit higher than either of those roads. Just a thought.
I have a good hunch why 101 is most dangerous. There’s this place right off of it called “rock candy” it’s a place where huge groups of teens and young adults go and party up in the mountain side a ways off the highway. About everyone there gets plastered then drives home or street races early morning 1-3 am
Great video, I thrive going to the Olympics, that road looks familiar, what's the elevation? Beautiful scenery by the hecway, it's almost like duckabush, I actually dream to live there, (the olys)
I was just out that way not too long ago. I made a few videos of that general area. The elevation of NF-5400 (in the North Cascades) is the highest elevation road in Washington, eventually coming to 7,887ft (2404m) at its highest point. www.alltrails.com/trail/us/washington/the-hart-s-pass-road-5400
No way, Jose. Some of those pullouts have nearly nothing underneath to support them and they erode with the passage of the seasons. But, they say it ain't the fall that kills ya, it's the sudden stop at the bottom.
Took my 2002 Hyundai Accent (subcompact) up this about 20 years ago. It's not too bad if rain isn't bringing down rockfall. Sad to see how much of the forest has burned.
Oh goodness! With a fear of heights, it's hard to even watch this video. Wow..... I was born and raised in Seattle. I can't recall ever going on this road. Yikes! Can't imagine a car coming the other direction. Who is the one to back up? No pull outs. Yikes!
For someone who has driven on the many backcountry 4WD roads in Colorado, this looks very tame. But then, running into a bridge abutment on a modern highway or head-on into a semi on a two lane road is even worse. Margins of error are about the same.
It has one spot that's quite spooky. Probably different when you are actually there. Very few roads to the high country in Washington because the mtns are so steep, unlike Colorado where the mtns are tamer. I've been all over both states, and both are amazing. I prefer oxygen though.
Here’s my superstitious belief, when you drive that truck make sure you pray fist like it’s you’re last , and make sure all the tires and brakes are touch notch then it’s all up to you to tackle the day ahead and go home in one piece 😮
Try shoestring trail from manastash campground toward cliffdell. 4x4 needed. You start by a campground, you see a sign that indicates jeeps and orvs, then you see where it starts, you have to put your rig in low range and it's like you're sitting on a rollercoaster about to go up at a crazy steep angle, so you start up and right away you have to make a sharp right which puts your vehicle sideways on a steep hill, go between a few trees that have ford, Chevy, jeep, dodge colors on them from folks who slid into the trees with their vehicles because of loose rock and gravity and that just the first few yards. To be fair, this is a jeep trail not a road. Extreme off-road trails are fun, but know before you go. If your gut tells you don't try it, then please listen to your gut. Study, practice, then gradually increase your off road skills but do it without hurting your equipment or you. Good luck.
Is it worse than the Fortune Creek trail that goes up to Gallagher Head Lake? I took my truck up there earlier this year and it was definitely a white knuckle drive up. Slamed the bottom of my truck a few times on the rocks. Thankfully I didn't destroy my truck, but it definitely made me pucker several times.
Wss this an old RR grade. I was raised in Colorado and my mom had a copy of Stampede to Timberline. Thus was a book about Colorado mining towns that we visited for the history and experiencing of the old railroad grades that reached into these old company towns. The way this road appears to me is as a nerrow gauge RR grade. A lot of explosives had to be used for this no dozer operator would be crazy enough to, or could cut that in.
If you don't drive out of your lane on the interstate, why would you think you are going to go over the cliff on a road like this? Biggest problem is encountering a car coming the other way but that can usually be worked out.
The drop offs certainly look sketchy… but on this and others like it, have cars ever really gone off the road and off the cliff? Seems to be something we never really hear of.
I have turned a car and trailer around on roads narrower than that.... and without uncoupling them either. That road was flat as a highway. I could have taken my Mini up that.
Ah yes. The road to Harts Pass and Slate Peak. Not dangerous, just scenic. As long as you pay attention to the road. I could almost smell the breakfast as it sizzled.
'Interesting' how you placed the camera to make the road seem worse than it really was. Dramatic effect, I guess. In the few times you actually showed the road, it's like a freeway compared to some in other states especially since one could drive it in a passenger car!
Idaho drivers are the worst. Not a contest. Now if we were talking stupid drivers you might have a point there. I see some stupid drivers on a daily basis, not dangerous, just dumb
Came down that road in a 1981 Oldsmobile omega with the brakes giving out 3/4 the way up. Dad didnt tell us until we got down.
Great video! But I think Aurora Ave when the bars close might be more dangerous.
Can't argue with that
I was stopped by snow at Dead Horse Pass once and had to turn around. I am also old enough to remember when you could drive over Hart’s Pass, down to Ruby. :)
What was that like?
Many happy memories exploring the Ruby mines and fishing at the river. Memories in that 76 CJ7 that will live on with my children until the end.
maybe save the griddle pan for steak and use a smooth cast iron pan for eggs
Yeah, I didn't want to say anything so thanks....😅
If ya scramble them, why dirty another pan? 😂
@@joanfraser6500 Yeah that works too.....lol
Try driving it in Reverse! We went most of the way and discovered an uncleared rockslide and had to back down quite a way till we could turn around.
If you we're riding fiat I'd really need too see it!
We have two mountain ranges here in Washington state. Hundreds of logging roads, hundreds wash outs,and slides.
@@virgiepaul4578 even with a shit ton of rocking
@@virgiepaul4578 Also hundreds of barricaded, gated and locked up, and more being locked everyday.
It's not what it was anymore.
@ferratilis yes, we have experienced the gates. Ditching, piles of dirt. We are surrounded by green diamond, husband work for them 40 years and we have to buy permits to step onto their land. A little bitter, but understand why. Our 4 wheeling days are over now except on you tube.
WoW, that overhanging cliff was something. Nice drive.
It's really one of a kind. Thanks for your comment.
Imagine the crazy bastard that built that road with his dozer
No doubt.....
Most likely steam powered dozer, the size of a 2 car garage
Definitely a thumbs up video 👍.
I will have to put this on my bucket list of roads.
These are gorgeous views. I need to go see this place in the Spring or Summer. I hope it's not crowded with people. It's like everyone wants to go camping at the same time as me. Very annoying.
I really like outdoor videos that focus on cooking and have shots of the food cooking. This is one of the most important things to include in any outdoor related video. Cooking, cooking, cooking. Could watch it for hours. Often renders the main content irrelevant and stupid. Excellent video.
I have many videos of me cooking. Some of them specifically focused on cooking.
@@justindozone2160 All according to plan.
@@justindozone2160 Nah keeps you alive, along with oxygen. Do you not breath that stuff either???
@@justindozone2160 one of my favorite things to do is try to make a legitimate gorme meal in the backcountry. It turns a good experience into a memorable experience.
Hello newest friend! This so gorgeous...but is a TERRIFYING road! U certainly look very close to the edge!! 🥴 Stay safe. LUCRETIA
Before I-90 was built the old canyon road that went to Yakima scared me when I was a kid.
I'm assuming that is Hart's pass road? Not sure why you wouldn't state that in the video?
Cool! Looks like almost every logging road in this part of the Kootenay region of BC
Reminds me of my log truck driving days . . . God was my co-pilot. 🙏
Pucker factor 10/10
@@DansBackcountry Especially during winter. We had some hauls requiring chaining up for snow. 😱
I agreed ,
Think the road was a little improved the second time I went up there, first time was very freaky - passing a big truck at the worst spot, inches from the side. Pretty wild driving up top too to that tiny parking area over 7000 feet
I took this trip for the first time in the late 50's. The road was very dangerous and the lookover at Dead Horse Point was scary as hell. In those days the remains of the wagon were still visible. Spent a week at a camp that you could drive to (no longer the case) down on the river. did this 2 or 3 times. I won't name the area because I don't wish to advertise it. Stunningly beautiful with fishing from a time long past. My neighbor was up there serval times a decade or so ago. They had to take 4 wheelers down to the old miner shacks (now gone). I don't know if that is even possible now by 4 wheelers. As far as the lower 48 go... this is remote. DO NOT go if not fully stocked.
Washington must have been great in the 1950s. I've tried to find some old footage of the state from around then but can't find too many videos. WA is still a great place but a lot of changes have hurt the state, which is a shame because it is truly a great one. Maybe even the best.
@@j-555 Here is a brief look at Lake Chelan when I first moved there in the mid 50s. I was 5.
th-cam.com/video/TnBWMyQZbfE/w-d-xo.html
@@snuffyballparks6501 great footage. I want to go there now!
So you won't name the place because you don't want anyone else to enjoy it. 🤔 in other words, you're a selfish ahole!
Glad you drove it. I would have problems just walking it. No head for heights.
Video doesn't do the location justice. I plan on going back this summer and revisiting it using my drone.
@@DansBackcountry I’ll watch for it!
@@susansmart8086 will have to wait for summer because this road is still completely blown out by snow this time of year.
@@DansBackcountry Know what you mean. I’m just shy of 2700’ on the edge of the Palouse and still have snow in shady areas.
I love the old 70 road from greenwater to naches I grew up hunting and camping that whole area
Beautiful scenic shelf road!
Great video, but it would be helpful if you included a page # of location in the Delorme Atlas.
What brand camp stove were you using? I haven't seen a one pound fuel bottle used with a small (backpack) stove.
I bought an adapter for it
Yep, did it years ago and it is indeed a tad scary, but you just hug the uphill side and it actually is fine (or WAS fine). Maybe it has changed over the years?
I did this video 3 years ago and most people just don't look over the side.
I love this
Getting both slow rolling along
Ease of car camping
And out in heck of nowhere
I wish I could of some of this
It is Hart's Pass. Easy even for a small crossover!
I have seen more dangerous roads than that in Washington.
Like the I-5?
That looks like a really scary and treacherous road, which does force people to slow down and use extreme caution. In terms of the number of fatalities per vehicle miles traveled it’s not high on the list (thankfully). The most dangerous road in WA is US-101 through Shelton (fatalities/VMT) followed closely by I-5 through Seattle.
I would think if you looked at it from the standpoint fatalities compared to cars traveled...it'd be quite a bit higher than either of those roads. Just a thought.
I have a good hunch why 101 is most dangerous. There’s this place right off of it called “rock candy” it’s a place where huge groups of teens and young adults go and party up in the mountain side a ways off the highway. About everyone there gets plastered then drives home or street races early morning 1-3 am
Where is it ?
Ponderosa ranch ?
I leaned away from the drop off clasping the passenger side headrest. Like that would help. 😅😮😂
Im thinking where?
The north Cascades are beautifully rugged
That they are!
Yes I and my family have been on that road to camp and hunt. It's a scary long way down. Don't look out the passenger window!
Beautiful drive for sure!
Played at X2 speed a fun ride!
Imagine building this road…
It would be nice to know approximately where in Washington State you are.
Like where I go or where I dwell?
Can you hunt in that area?
There is hunting out in the area. Make sure you're checking local hunting regulations as they can vary.
Yes.
Great video, I thrive going to the Olympics, that road looks familiar, what's the elevation? Beautiful scenery by the hecway, it's almost like duckabush, I actually dream to live there, (the olys)
I was just out that way not too long ago. I made a few videos of that general area. The elevation of NF-5400 (in the North Cascades) is the highest elevation road in Washington, eventually coming to 7,887ft (2404m) at its highest point.
www.alltrails.com/trail/us/washington/the-hart-s-pass-road-5400
No more dangerous than any other high up forest service road.
Is that near Mt Baker?
maps.app.goo.gl/yeW9CDy5y3MoxojT9
While breakfast looked delicious, that road will be the catalyst for my next falling dream, thanks a bunch 😂
Glad to be here, happy to support.
No way, Jose. Some of those pullouts have nearly nothing underneath to support them and they erode with the passage of the seasons. But, they say it ain't the fall that kills ya, it's the sudden stop at the bottom.
Beautiful views but what a frightening drive! No thank you!😅
Took my 2002 Hyundai Accent (subcompact) up this about 20 years ago. It's not too bad if rain isn't bringing down rockfall. Sad to see how much of the forest has burned.
Lat time I've been there was about 24 years ago. Still looks the same.
Oh goodness! With a fear of heights, it's hard to even watch this video. Wow..... I was born and raised in Seattle. I can't recall ever going on this road. Yikes! Can't imagine a car coming the other direction. Who is the one to back up? No pull outs. Yikes!
Imagine rallying up this road. Spooky stuff right there!
I’ve packed mules in the Salmon river country in Idaho where you literally could not see the bottom…
Imagine that road was probably put in for logging and mining 😮
Looks like a typical logging road
I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to be driving up there when the sudden thunderstorm opens up
ya that would not be fun.
For someone who has driven on the many backcountry 4WD roads in Colorado, this looks very tame.
But then, running into a bridge abutment on a modern highway or head-on into a semi on a two lane road is even worse. Margins of error are about the same.
It has one spot that's quite spooky. Probably different when you are actually there. Very few roads to the high country in Washington because the mtns are so steep, unlike Colorado where the mtns are tamer. I've been all over both states, and both are amazing. I prefer oxygen though.
Here’s my superstitious belief, when you drive that truck make sure you pray fist like it’s you’re last , and make sure all the tires and brakes are touch notch then it’s all up to you to tackle the day ahead and go home in one piece 😮
Imagine driving this road if you didn't have eye balls
Hurricane ridge , are one of the most feared, no guard rails to hold you back 😮
Hart’s pass? I don’t remember it being dangerous. Nice video though.
It's not. Been going up there for fifty years.
Try shoestring trail from manastash campground toward cliffdell. 4x4 needed. You start by a campground, you see a sign that indicates jeeps and orvs, then you see where it starts, you have to put your rig in low range and it's like you're sitting on a rollercoaster about to go up at a crazy steep angle, so you start up and right away you have to make a sharp right which puts your vehicle sideways on a steep hill, go between a few trees that have ford, Chevy, jeep, dodge colors on them from folks who slid into the trees with their vehicles because of loose rock and gravity and that just the first few yards. To be fair, this is a jeep trail not a road. Extreme off-road trails are fun, but know before you go. If your gut tells you don't try it, then please listen to your gut. Study, practice, then gradually increase your off road skills but do it without hurting your equipment or you. Good luck.
Is it worse than the Fortune Creek trail that goes up to Gallagher Head Lake? I took my truck up there earlier this year and it was definitely a white knuckle drive up. Slamed the bottom of my truck a few times on the rocks. Thankfully I didn't destroy my truck, but it definitely made me pucker several times.
I drive 18 wheelers up that road !
Please be careful driving. It’s so dangerous and beautiful at the same time.
Wss this an old RR grade. I was raised in Colorado and my mom had a copy of Stampede to Timberline. Thus was a book about Colorado mining towns that we visited for the history and experiencing of the old railroad grades that reached into these old company towns. The way this road appears to me is as a nerrow gauge RR grade. A lot of explosives had to be used for this no dozer operator would be crazy enough to, or could cut that in.
The only thing that was 'dangerous' about this vid was the eggs (I have a story about that!! LOL) ...The views are beautiful and breathtaking!
Looks like have a Honda. Passport?
AWD CR-V EX-L with a 2" lift and 31" tires
@@DansBackcountry Passport. 2 inch lift kit. 30 inch tires on 18 inch rime. Skid plates and ready to go.
@@christinel6616 ready to go where? 30" tires on 18" wheels not very ideal for off pavement use.
Really enjoying your videos
Hmmmm I don't see any Tesla charging stations?
There's also only one gas station within like 50 miles of this place located in Mazama. So don't forget to fill up.
NO X say there is no nf-4500
If you don't drive out of your lane on the interstate, why would you think you are going to go over the cliff on a road like this? Biggest problem is encountering a car coming the other way but that can usually be worked out.
You are making it look like it goes for a long ways, its only a quarter mile with the steepest parts. Talk about click bait!!
The drop offs certainly look sketchy… but on this and others like it, have cars ever really gone off the road and off the cliff? Seems to be something we never really hear of.
Ever hear of black bear pass? Look it up.
must have relayed that 100 yard stretch 20 times with different camera angles.. lol
The part that’s single lane on the side of a cliff is disturbing. Especially if somebody is coming the other way cuz there is no place to pass.
Been up there many times. Dead horse will scare the crap out of you. Pray you don’t meet a car coming up it at the same time you’re going diwn.
@@RobWastman most certainly
I could do donuts in my jeep at one of those pullouts😂
Almost as scary as Moab!
I have a problem with vertigo, so I will "pass" on this one.
You can drive it in a two wheel drive. Dangerous?
I have turned a car and trailer around on roads narrower than that.... and without uncoupling them either. That road was flat as a highway. I could have taken my Mini up that.
Ah yes. The road to Harts Pass and Slate Peak. Not dangerous, just scenic. As long as you pay attention to the road. I could almost smell the breakfast as it sizzled.
How about a thing called MAP, so we know what we are looking at.
been there, done that . . . Yes, scary.
That is not as bad as the road to Slate peak that fucker is scary, but maybe wait till August
If you drove on the right side of the road it wouldn't be as scary!!!
'Interesting' how you placed the camera to make the road seem worse than it really was. Dramatic effect, I guess. In the few times you actually showed the road, it's like a freeway compared to some in other states especially since one could drive it in a passenger car!
imagine runout of gas
imagine being stupid enough to go out on that forest road with not a full tank of gas.
This is not what I want to travel on
One of the most filmed roads.
You show us the most dangerous road and purposely drive on the very edge. Was that for dramatic effect or do you have a death wish?
Can it be both?
It can be both.
IEEEEE!!!
Dangerous? Only if you don't stay on it.
Really man!!!! Really!
P.S... NEW FRIEND here. Safe & blessed travels. LUCRETIA 🇺🇸
Pair this road with the worst drivers on the planet and you have an idea of how it is to drive in Washington.
Oregoons are even worse
Worst drivers? Apparently you have never been to Atlanta. 😹
Idaho drivers are the worst. Not a contest. Now if we were talking stupid drivers you might have a point there. I see some stupid drivers on a daily basis, not dangerous, just dumb
@@Ryno-fp7pm No, but I've driven in Boston....
That is a flat non rocky road that any car can go on. Take the edge and drop off away and there’s nothing to that road.
Maybe if you'd stay off the road edge it wouldn't be so dangerous!
Bawahhhhaaaa, yep!
No way I am good!
It's even better when there's snow...
The passing bumps would erode much slower if people weren't driving on them unnecessarily.
LOL, you don't get out much if this is dangerous.
Looks like a 3rd world country road
almost like Kolyma road in so-called 'russia'😀
Not a particularly dangerous looking road..
Nothing dangerous here. I could drive that in my wife's CRV.
What a coincidence, I filmed this in a CRV that only had a 2" lift and bigger tires.
that would be 2nd and washington st downtown seattle.