Texturing 3D Prints for Strength!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 พ.ค. 2024
- What do a folded piece of paper and the new texturing tool for 3D prints in IdeaMaker have in common? Texturing 3D prints is a cool new feature to add a unique look to your parts but in my opinion even more importantly can add quite some strength to prints and will allow you to generate shapes that were hardly possible before, due to warping.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction
00:40 Texturing
01:30 Bead Patterns
02:40 Bead Patterns for 3D Prints
03:30 Why 3D prints warp
04:50 Texturing in IdeaMaker
06:44 Pattern Science
07:17 Texturing to reduce warping
08:37 Texturing for strength
09:00 Summary
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Textured or smooooth? What's your preference?
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Textures hide the layers, so I would go with textured! And thanks for the video I have been vawaiting for it. Keep it up!
Its on a case to case basis, if it is needed do it
Maybe both! a smooth outer wall with a textured inner wall that protrudes to the interior of the model. Like stiffened skins on airplanes =D
I have actually been experimenting with this using SolidWorks' 3Dtexture tool, using displacement maps like this but not to increase stiffness in vase mode prints but for visual reasons, adding a pattern but also adding a noise layer on top which is extremely effective at reducing the visibility of layer lines.
Depends on your application of course. I could see uses for both.
Cuz Hexagon is Bestagon
Its funny, because its true!
Porygon agrees
Mydadsgon
I see you are a man of quality as well
@@JustTryinaDuck I see we three are people of culture
Addition to the “here” montage: folding pizza slightly so that the tip doesn’t fall down
This is the way.
This is the way.
Folding the slice in two is the most practical way to eat pizza, nothing falls and just one hand is needed. Italians eat pizza that way
@Brenden Bales I usually eat a large, so that I keep up my mass, and that won't work. Gotta quarter it.
Or hold it sideways a bit
You know you're going to have to build a thin-wall stiffness testing rig now.
I would really like to see the stiffness results using Carbon Fiber PLA and the Carbon Fiber PC of the different patterns.
Wanted to post the same comment👍
That was my thought as well. I'd be very interested to see how different patterns(on a simple plate) change the mechanical resistance
I was thinking the same thing! I would also really like to see layer adhesion, because I want to know if printing MTG boxes like this would make their walls stronger
thats just a group of 6yrds with no supervision
Oh man Stefan what would the Community do without you? That was awesome again, Thank you!
My pleasure!
@@CNCKitchen Hey Kollege!
I'm sorry but that tape example at 3:30 is GENIUS!!!!
Thanks!
Since you made dozens of videos already analyzing methods to strengthen 3D printed parts, I think it's time for a summary (maybe you could turn this into a yearly thing). Would be nice to have one singular video to reference when planning a print :D
Good idea
How are the mechanical properties of the print with the "subscribe" pattern? I'm slightly disappointed that you didn't test that. ;-)
Damn, how could I forget that!
@Alexandru Ciobanu start from 5:43
2:30 when the teacher is calling names for attendance, but you're the only person present
Me with my ability to do 50 voices at once: I AM 4 PARALLEL UNIVERSES AHEAD OF YOU
That Voron 0 is printing so clean!
Love it!
But why so slow?
@@JonS slow for vase mode.
Stefan : spends 10 mins explaining that texturing can be game changing
Also Stefan : "do you think texturing is helpful ?" 😂
I'm just ☝ one opinion.
@@CNCKitchen You demonstrated how useful this is. That's no longer just an opinion.
@@CNCKitchen as harmless said... this is facts :-) so yeah. :-)
@@CNCKitchen One opinion you may be, but with the examples and very practical demonstrations of simple facts, there is very little room for discussions of usefulness and/ or practicality... the methodology works! Now the only discussion points left are what patterns might work best for given applications or desired effects. (That glimpse of accordion bellows offers a few nifty possibilities of its own!)
wonderful video 👌😎 Slicer features like these will significantly improve the printed parts
Definitely! Thanks for stopping by!
@@CNCKitchen, yeee its a crossover episode of my favorite 3d printing peopleee
INFINITY WARS IS THE MOST AMBITIOUS CROSSOV-
OMG! this experiment was literally on my todo list this week! Thank you for doing it and saving me a ton of time Stefan
As someone whose meager 3D modeling knowledge comes from a video game development and computer graphics standpoint, it’s interesting that this method for adding rigidity and reducing warping is very similar to the idea of “bump maps”, which take simple polygonal models and make them appear detailed by simulating bumpy surfaces using a bitmap!
I love how 3d printing still has so MUCH improvement to go the future possible with it seems almost endless.
I cant wait for what more development people create for it
Great video! Really stunning quality as always. The time spent editing and getting shots is certainly worth your time, it makes these videos so engaging.
Not mainily for vase mode, but Cert useful to make vase mode prints stiffer or even printable.
its not any kind of gimmick , having had vase warping issues over the last week its handy to find this info, also really cool to see the Voron at work.
Excellent, you get better and better. It's a joy to listen and watch your explanations! Rare to see that laid out with such methodology like you do. Thank you!
Patterns to achieve more strength. I had no idea that this concept existed! Very nice.
The prints of your voron look great! Would love to see more of it!
Genious.
Where are the people, who find this video very helpful?
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IVE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO THINK OF THIS!!! kudos to you!! i would like to see more on this!
I still have yet to try my first 3D print, but this is probably the 15th video I've watched from Stefan. Thank you for your efforts and amazing content, Stefan!
Would be neat to be able to texture the interior wall only
So a cylinder would have a smooth exterior but a matching inner cylinder with the waffle pattern
I wonder if you could overlap a smooth one and a textured one just enough to get one that's smooth on the outside and textured inside
You could also use that kind of thing for lithography since you'd have varying thickness
@@castleboat duplicate it
Set 1 to print normal
Shrink the x and y on the other and texture it
I wonder if one slicer could implement something like this only for the innermost wall of a print.
Or use Blender for the modell. There bump Maps have been used forever...
@@AndersJackson Blender user here as well (since 2.49b). I was thinking more about having the pattern as the innermost or maybe 2 (maybe you could alternate the pattern) innermost walls, just before the infill. That kind stuff wouldn't be possible to change inside Blender because you can only change the shape, but not how it's sliced.
I mean even if you added the pattern in Blender (through the displacement modifier) to the inner side of let's say a cilinder, it would have to be hollow and thus the infill wouldn't be inside the model, but maybe just a really thin layer.
Agreed, hide this on the inside and allow the infill patterns to overlap...man, PLA wet could be strong...
What you're requesting makes no sense. Your print would be full of gap-filled areas where the bumps are.
Also a new N-Layer Vace mode would let you decide on the strength and set them separately for inside and outside.
This is the slicer setting I didn't know I needed... Have been thinking a lot about how to manually add strengthening patterns to models but that's a lot of work.
Amazing new feature, thanks for sharing! I am downloading the software now and can't wait to try it out! The ability to add strength is great but I think the ease of making a print not look "boring" is even better.
Would be interesting to try a perlin noise / randomised pattern. This should also help to distribute stresses that come from more regular repeating patterns. It should also give a more natural surface texture.
Damn thats just insane bro. I was wondering if there is some kind of software that can do such things and there you go! I can clearly see that the universe is hearing me all the time! Thank you so much, literaly SO MUCH. That feature will solve my problem. If you will ever wonder "Why am i recording this stuff, do i even help anyone?" Just remember me.
Most 3D modeling software can already do this, it's usually called something like displacement mapping or surface displacement.
The relative success of the vertical line pattern reminds me of serpentine brick walls. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crinkle_crankle_wall
They use far fewer bricks than a double-thickness wall, but are also much stronger than a single-thickness wall.
That's super cool.. I've never seen anything like that in person.
It seems like a great way to be practical and add some style to an area at the same time. I like that kind of creative thinking in public projects and architecture.
Definitely want to see some tests done on differently textured parts and I think you’re the perfect person for that!
I gotta say it's really cool that you mention area moment of inertia cause that's what I learned about in school recently and have a test on in a few days and have been having trouble with. Didnt think I would see it talked about in a 3d printing video.
This is a cool feature to add. I'd like to see transition options added to surfaces so that you could set inset distances where the texturing would start, and maybe add a fade in option. Would be nice to have this as a separate feature from the specific image file, so one file would be adaptable to a variety of prints.
Combined with a new N-Layer Vace mode you could get incredible strength in a couple layers.
Love the intro song!
Me, too 😍
Ich finde es immer wieder erstaunlich wie gut und anschaulich du Probleme oder neue Möglichkeiten analysierst und erklärst. Tolles Video :) mach weiter so
Vielen Dank, freut mich zu hören!
You are so skillful in presentation especially how you made tape as an example to show wrapping in 3:44 cue time. Great work and love to watch your video 👍🏻
7:37 Bestagons! Bestagons everywhere!
Hexagons are the bestagons!
Holy moly you could use this to add automatic dimpling to aircraft wings, simultaneously adding strength with minimal weight. The golf ball theory of aerodynamics.
Yes!
Plus dimples act as vortex generators, leading to softer stall (but worse cruise performance). Want to try this for stiffness though!
@@bob2859 if you can figure out a way to print it with an itty bitty hole in the middle of each dimple, then duct a little bit of thrust into each wing, the extra pressure would add stiffness, with the positive pressure making the dimples as slippery as snot on a slip and slide. Make the duct actuated, and get best of both.
I know NASA tried something like this. The project was considered highly successful technically, but was killed by maintenance problems. Cleaning out all the little holes was prohibitively expensive on a full size jet wing. At a small enough scale you could just detach the wings and toss them in the dishwasher and/or ultrasonic cleaner.
Edit: ducking speech to text.
amazing works as usual : thanks to inspiring us to go further
Great video, love seeing your V0 in use, would love another video as I’m planning to get one!
V0 is looking good!
It does 😎 Printed the bed parts out of CFPETG which performed way better so far.
Yes, another CNC Kitchen video!!!
More to come!
Thanks, Stefan. This made sense of some things I've already seen like corrugated culverts.
Have done this kind of thing in 3d software like 3ds Max and Blender. Its the same method but dumbed down a bit and made easier to use.
I put nice leather pattern onto a file for someone a few years ago and they were really happy with the results.
Same principal as a lithophane.
They might have also seen Billierubens posts about this on twitter in the past as well, so its by no means a new or even original idea but to give them their due, integrating into ideamaker was a great move so congratulations and thanks for the video Stefan, its always a joy to see that you have posted a new video. I don't think I've missed one but may have cut one or 2 short as they didn't hold any interest for me
my first thought was not a washing machine but origami :D
Cura should have this
Personally I'm a fan and user of PrusaSlicer (since I have a Mk3s). I wouldn't mind this feature either in PrusaSlicer or in my CAD program of choice (FreeCAD). The advantage of putting this in CAD would be to easily put patterns only on parts of your model with high precision.
@@VorpalGun +1 for adding this to FreeCAD
@@marcus3d If you mean me implementing this as a script (which I considered briefly) that would rely on me finding time for this, which is unlikely now that I'm doing a PhD.
Great video with outstanding visual demonstrations
They've added normal maps! great!
This is a significant improvement for at least 3 reasons:
1. reasons shown in this video
2. easy custom logo'ing or labelling
3. In the computer modelling world Normal/Bump maps are often used to add fine detail to a more simple geometry model. So adding normal maps to printing software allows those to be used natively, rather than having to make everything in geometry.
*this is doubly great for making variations (EG character with or without scars, grippy handle or smoother version, etc) or fast modifications to existing designs.
I was waiting for a test the whole video.
me too!!
"Texturing" 3D prints like this is certainly useful. Doing it in the slicer, however, seems kind of gimmicky. I'd always opt to do it in the design phase, where I have as much control as possible.
Not everyone only prints parts they designed themselves
I honestly love ideamaker, it's been ablebto give me any setting I've ever needed and then some. Now with this I could make even cooler parts in the future!
Your channel is so good. Thanks for all your videos
For the airplane surface you mentioned early in the video they should use the golf ball texture to the surface.
ooh. this could be interesting!
i'm afraid that the golf ball texture makes it easier for the flow to detach from the surface, which is beneficial for the ball's flight... but is the exact opposite for an airplane, as it makes it stall easier (stall is caused by the flow above the wing detaching from the surface of the wing, reducing lift dramatically).
i wonder how much of a difference this would make on your usual filament tests. i know you said it’s mainly for vase mode prints, but maybe you’d get some interesting results
I think the proportional increase in dimension from a thin wall to textured wall is significant enough to make a difference whereas a solid print having a bit of texturing is only a small proportional change in dimension. So it probably wouldn't have much of an impact on solid pieces
@@arax20 "solid" pieces are just a collection of "thin" pieces when comes to 3D printing. This could be huge.
Learned so much! Thanks for all the great work!
Been toying with the idea of getting into 3d printing but it always seemed a bit daunting. Your videos are so informative and fun to listen to that I think I may go for it.
You should put this in a book, or a playlist with other tips.
He should. In the meantime, I put together a playlist of different videos regarding designing for 3D printing. I just added this video to it. th-cam.com/play/PLqvAdcudOOPsWwG-IPbB5byuk-zkXWKik.html
Thanks!
@@pup4301 You're welcome. Here is another playlist covering 3D printing itself, basically everything besides the design of the part itself. th-cam.com/play/PLqvAdcudOOPv_C34OrmY1RNq4LLMVFFed.html
@@Austin1990 Thanks again. Also do you have any playlist on resin printing.
@@pup4301 I have watched quite a few videos on resin printers, but it looks like I didn't save any of them. It looks like I didn't save many videos regarding the safety of FDM printing either; I should have.
The resin is extremely hazardous. If it gets onto your skin, the resin will soak into your skin, and it will harden inside your body when your skin is exposed to UV light. This causes severe health issues related to the immune system that I don't recall off the top of my head. This toxicity is irreversible, only building up with every exposure.
3D printing resins have all the health risks of traditional resins plus far more serious risks. With how messy the resin is, keeping it completely off your skin is not a trivial task. And, the vapor is very toxic on top of this. While the results are amazing, I don't suggest resin printing. To do it safely, you need a proper full-face mask, long disposable gloves, and a multi-station workspace with great ventilation.
You really nail down improvements in print tech quickly & simply!
Happy to hear that!
This is an incredible game changer! I will have to start using the IdeaMaker slicer
What am I doing here, I don't even have a 3d printer
Jet
jet 😂
"10 x stiffer‼️"
For a moment there I thought this was about something else
Not talking about the blue pills...
🤣
@@CNCKitchen Never realized until now what Morpheus was offering
This is such a great idea! Amazing!
Best way to create corrugated metal sheet props for my wargaming needs. Thanks for the video!
I hope prusa slicer picks up this feature
This is how I’ve been making project enclosures. I use it exactly like extruded aluminum cases. The body of the case, which is what usually would take the longest to print, is printed in vase mode using 0.8 line width. Vertical lines give it stability while also letting me slot in a component sled. The end caps have grooves in them for the body. I’ve also figured out a way to print vents and screw holes for the end caps. All in vase mode.
And that is exactly the contemporary reason why you subscribe to a TH-cam channel these days, pure value, practical and helpful knowledge! Thank you, you are on my most important list of information channel!
Brilliant formulation, excellent illustration and comprehensible examples! Exceeded expectations!
Thanks, highly appreciated!
very interesting, as usual ! thanks for your work, so inspiring
Muchas gracias Stefan, siempre aportando conocimiento en ingeniería e impresión 3d, eres el mejor, saludos desde Colombia
Thank you very much for this video! I believe this will help me a lot in one of my projects.
This is actually quite helpful I'll probably use this in this design for the centrifuge rotor I'm designing.
Dude this is awesome! Haven't used ideamaker for a while, now to jump back into it!
I was considering getting into 3d printing so this is so helpful
Can't smash the like button enough! Thank you for such a efficient method of improvement.
thanks for the up. its no surprise to me that the honeycomb works great. by nature its the perfect pattern
Thanks!
One of the many design features that make jerry cans so effective is the folding on the large faces.
Thanks Stephen. That's a really good explanation, which is really over look by people (well certainly me) when we want to print a object. I be saving this video as a reminder
Chill review. I think texturing of walls is a great idea for reducing wall thickness, and playing further with the flex and rigidity of a print - very good stuff.
Great that you hopped on the new ideamaker feature! I am using texturing for grip at climbing holds :)
I was thinking the patterns would be nice for handles and such to offer grip! Do you notice a big difference or is it more subtle?
@@StumblingBumblingIdiot I haven't tested it enough to give you an direct answer but I would definitely say that the difference it makes is noticeable. The best pattern until now is a black and white triangle combination.
Looking forward to giving this a try. Thanks.
Super feature! I had to try this and darn, YESSS I love it. Thank you very much for this great tip Stefan! Vielen Dank! ;-)
Excellent Stefan! Danke !
I've used that type of feature in modeling for many years, mostly for cosmetic purposes, but I'd find this all kinds of useful having this directly in a slicer. IdeaMaker continues to be one of my go-to programs even though I don't print directly out of it, it's built-in repair algo's are really decent, and dissecting things on the fly is super useful if you don't need it keyed.
You have educated and entertained me! You are awesome!
Incredible! I usually print structual parts so this video gave me a lot of ideas. And you are right..Ideamaker is not an easy slicer tool but when you get used to it it offers sooo many interesting features.
actually i think ideamaker its very easy and the other ones are the difficult.
The past week i tried cura and prusaslicer for a while and i'm going back to Ideamaker
One stupid thing in cura its the "vase mode" every time i have to go to the internet to remember the name that they use.
I just learned that trick of using a jpeg as a displacement for a mesh creating a texture. Not only does it make it stronger, but gives it a very nice finish at the end which could mask some of the printing imperfections
So much useful!!! Very thanks from Argentina!
Thanks Stephan !!! that was incredibly useful !!!
Learning cool new things every day. Thank u
Quite honestly, thank you for this lesson!
Brilliant! I knew about the concept, but applying to 3d prints is great. Hope it makes its way to prusa slicer
Thank you, I was getting comfy with Cura and Superslicer. Now this is something that I really miss in both of the programs.
Thank you Stephan, good job. Un véritable apport a l'impression 3D.
とても聞き取りやすい、丁寧に説明してくれてありがとう。
英語は得意ではないけど、詳しく教えてくれるから理解できた。
Thankyou
Thanks, never think about it before
This is really useful. I created a pull rod handle for my mother's curtains, and added some grip to it with the coil tool in fusion 360, but this texturing feature is exactly what I was looking for to add some grip to the handle which would be just a plain cylinder otherwise.
Very cool will try it
Very cool! Thanks for the video.
Thanks for the info.
Great content, keep up the great work!!!
Dang this is smooth