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    Iso & Omen Theory
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  • @LodeStarYT
    @LodeStarYT 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2059

    Also when a bullet Hits ISO he looks like omen at 1:13 ISO's official trailer

    • @REVENVALORANT
      @REVENVALORANT  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +230

      I just saw it. good find. Iso is Omen 100%

    • @BaBythebestyoutuber000
      @BaBythebestyoutuber000 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      i was having doubts but this...

    • @LodeStarYT
      @LodeStarYT 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@BaBythebestyoutuber000 he also has the same purple omen has

    • @ioaza
      @ioaza 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

      you can say he IS-Omen

    • @REVENVALORANT
      @REVENVALORANT  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      that was the name of the folder I had the clues :P

  • @level99nn50
    @level99nn50 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1512

    We saw several omen-like creatures in the chamber cinematic and it was theorized that they were made by sage due to Vipers line about Sage "failed her" . Both Omen and Iso are linked ro this expirement clearly so it can be theorized that the expirement was conducted on him by Viper in order to give him powers. Omen says "Expirement complete " when killing Viper which seems to imply she was the one who tried it. Vipers expirement may have to do with interdimensional travel if Iso's ult canonically creates a pocket dimension. It seems the expirement split Li Xhao into two parts- Iso, his real self and Omen, his dimensional "shadow"- quite literally "torn apart" as Omen says. When sage tried resurrecting him it failed because he was actually in another place already (maybe pocket dimension?)leaving him a shadow between dimensions given a twisted semblance of a body by sages power. This allows him to dissapear and reappear which has been confirmed to be how he teleports by Skye. His paranoia ability is his shadow of his former self, a fragment that he still remembers but doesn't quite know how to use so instead he uses his current powers in a similar way. The final similarity is that a while back (coincidentally when fracture was the new map) omen got a model update which people assumed was simply to look better but interestingly they gave him some blue lights and a sort of armor which oddly enough resembles Iso's style, I think to hint that Omen is just a shadow of Iso, brought to "life" by Sages powers which we already know are more than just healing. Props to anyone who read all this lol.

    • @kartikeyavashisth9641
      @kartikeyavashisth9641 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

      Demn that is a crazy plot, now imagine if they put all of that in a movie!!!

    • @Kranya-v1s
      @Kranya-v1s 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      That's actually make sense

    • @xekobo9526
      @xekobo9526 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Fr tho it seems very plausible to be true and fits into the story well. I call valid👌😎

    • @sckaze777
      @sckaze777 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      *experiment

    • @holytaco239
      @holytaco239 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i read it all (:

  • @Jotunn96
    @Jotunn96 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1559

    My guess is that Omen was originally part of Iso but the incident caused him to fracture off into his own person

    • @pokex1270
      @pokex1270 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +228

      this makes me think of the omen voiceline when entering Split: "Split... they don't know the meaning of the word."

    • @ADOWAITE
      @ADOWAITE 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      @@pokex1270 holy, that can be insane

    • @FormlessVail
      @FormlessVail 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      So you can say viper likes iso and omen😏

    • @ecwtacy
      @ecwtacy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      idk maybe iso actually knows who omen is. if u look at 1:04 u can see he kinda sighs maybe they interacted b4

    • @Virues6969
      @Virues6969 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I guess also iso is a duelist while omen is controller wich are two opposites.

  • @paperguy3738
    @paperguy3738 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +518

    I'm calling it, Riot is gonna release an Omen for every role, for now we got Controller and Duelist Omen

    • @creeps946
      @creeps946 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      i mean omen is like duelist controller now iso is iniator duelist

    • @Solo_4314
      @Solo_4314 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@creeps946 if you time it correctly you can use Omen smokes to close important site entry points (such as split B site garage and haven C long) 3 times in a row. His paranoia is also a very effective way to hold enemy pushes and his tp is a great way to either wait for enemies to push on unexpected angles or to run back to safe places in site by teleporting away. His ult is also a great skill for defense, as it allows him to rotate quickly to help teamates, punish attackers for stacking at one entry point (such as split B garage) by teleporting to their spawn and crossfiring them as well as faking a teleport to get them to believe there is someone behind them and that the site is weaker. I might be wrong but I think all of this traits make him a really good defense agent, so u can say he is kind of a sentinel, but I'm probably just tripping.

    • @DalVLR
      @DalVLR 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      omen is more sentinel than duelist bud @@creeps946

    • @Kingu-Sama
      @Kingu-Sama หลายเดือนก่อน

      this aged really well

  • @cZk75137
    @cZk75137 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +433

    Another cool thing to point out is that ISO could potentially be short for isomer, which is a compound that has the same chemical composition as another compound, but different structures. This plays very well into the ISO = Omen theory, considering ISO is human and Omen is shadow.

    • @max40311
      @max40311 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      I think that ISO is short for isolate, given his ultimate ability literally isolates him and another agent to a 1v1 dimension.

    • @ignis2614
      @ignis2614 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      What if it's for both 👀

    • @maximestormflower7171
      @maximestormflower7171 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      what a terrible far take lmao

    • @BadWolfNeron
      @BadWolfNeron 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@maximestormflower7171 It's not, Riot's writers are industry gods, they are very very good at what they do. It's called threadding; you leave as much loose, dangling threads as possible 1) to hype the community 2) to make plot twists and connections later on in the story.

    • @firezera
      @firezera 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@maximestormflower7171yeah you don't know how riot writes lore lmao

  • @kyreionnn
    @kyreionnn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +204

    updated theory based off this: iso is actually omen, but he is still an octopus

    • @aaronyoung1559
      @aaronyoung1559 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      therefor iso is also an octopus and riot is gonna ship humans and fish together...

    • @Mabelost
      @Mabelost 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aaronyoung1559 Seems like something Riot would do

    • @kyreionnn
      @kyreionnn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aaronyoung1559 furthermore, every other agent is actually an octopus and it turns out that everyoen in the wrold that plays val is actually schizo not realizing that we have been playing as octopus characters with special abilities

  • @Phoenixx1212
    @Phoenixx1212 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +109

    I think Omen is all the Spirits of the Scientists combined that got ripped apart during the first light, that would explain the voicelines: "i'm hearing so many things" or "how many times did i get ripped apart". Its like the parts of the Scientists within him all talk at the same time or their memories cross over, which could be the reason he can't remember his past bc its too many different memories from different lives.

    • @hotdogman7442
      @hotdogman7442 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Possible, what we do know is that Omen before beibg ripped apart was a scientist, Iso is hunting all the scientists that were involved in the experiments with radianite

    • @Phoenixx1212
      @Phoenixx1212 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Which could mean he's getting a few in one Person if he killed Omen...
      But then the question is, who tells iso who to kill and what else do they know about omens past?

    • @terrenceisaacs7018
      @terrenceisaacs7018 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Those voicelines would also be explained by his past memories flooding his mind sometimes which he said does happen, and him being torn apart likely means when he teleports. Sage said that his teleportation is him ripping himself apart down to his very soul then reappearing which Skye also confirmed explaining that omens entire life force leaves when he teleports. Also he is just a walking mass of tattered shadows so he is probably being torn away inside while trying to hold himself together.

  • @wolfy0939
    @wolfy0939 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    One more thing that matches would be the fact that is hard for Omen to focus due to the fact that he hears so many things at the same time but he never specified that he hears voices or people, and Iso always listens to music (U can see he always wears the earpods, even in the ingame model) so it would kinda make sense for Iso to be Omen's past from this theory, assuming it was a failed ressurect attempt from Sage, causing memory loss and depending on where Omen got shot the impact could've caused a trauma that would mix with the music he was listening to, it also would make sense why Sage feels so bad about what happened to Omen and calls him his friend and considers him very close, She doesn't have that kind of relationship with any agent in the game, which would fit the profile of Omen being chinese

    • @WhoKnowsIt00001
      @WhoKnowsIt00001 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's only one problem with that, at the end of the cinematic called "Shattered" there's a statue from four agents including Omen, and the map Pearl is on omega earth (while alpha earth also has Omen).

    • @wolfy0939
      @wolfy0939 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      but what's the problem? both earths will have ISO anyway, this is prob something that has to do with time travel, rather than the problem between the 2 worlds, at the same time, Omen and ISO could just be the same person with different outcomes from the same experiment, like how there is a split personality, it could've been an experiment to clone who Omen was b4 but it ended badly, Omen being the broken shadow with no soul (prob being given a soul/life from sage) while Iso being the part of Omen that lives a *normal* life

    • @WhoKnowsIt00001
      @WhoKnowsIt00001 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wolfy0939 So if I'm right, you're saying that there are both Omen and his past self (Iso) on both alpha and omega earts?

  • @justjuniorjaw
    @justjuniorjaw 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +536

    Considering both has a lot of similar abilities, imagining Omen and Iso as the same character isn't too farfetched.

    • @Steveo_j8
      @Steveo_j8 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      His fragile effect move does have the exact same range and hit box as omens blind

    • @CorvexThe1st
      @CorvexThe1st 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      OH MY GOD THE *LORE* , this is a pretty good theory (still a theory)

    • @LOCALTAHOENJOYER
      @LOCALTAHOENJOYER 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Aside from the blind and fragile what other abilities do they have in common?

    • @soysauce6774
      @soysauce6774 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      ​@@LOCALTAHOENJOYERnone.

    • @LOCALTAHOENJOYER
      @LOCALTAHOENJOYER 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@soysauce6774 exactly

  • @CloudO-O
    @CloudO-O 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +457

    Riot need a series ASAP

    • @justNixthings
      @justNixthings 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Riot is making a Valorant film soon.

    • @vx1p3r
      @vx1p3r 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Not true at all@@justNixthings

    • @IGNSHIN
      @IGNSHIN 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@vx1p3r they are? wtf are you saying

    • @iggobomb6874
      @iggobomb6874 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Idk but we all need a film sooner than later

    • @iSa_Ach
      @iSa_Ach 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I'm not tracking Valo's Lore quite well but as an outsider looking in... It feels like the Lore part is not that yet big enough for a series.. Sure there are missing pieces and mysteries but as a coherent storyline? I'm not convinced yet... It's only my opinion.

  • @NovaaTheGreat
    @NovaaTheGreat 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +365

    I was gonna say maybe iso is omega version of omen. Maybe in the alpha universe iso had an accident and he turned into omen but in the omega universe nothing happened to iso. However, theres already a version of omen in both alpha and Omega universes so this theory is wrong.
    edit: the amount of people who didnt even read my comment and see that i already said that i know theres an alpha and omega omen is crazy

    • @blueleopard6339
      @blueleopard6339 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      shut up

    • @mxdicineYT
      @mxdicineYT 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Lol we have the same pfp 😊

    • @mxdicineYT
      @mxdicineYT 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Also yk how kay/o is from the future

    • @mxdicineYT
      @mxdicineYT 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well it could be from the past

    • @NovaaTheGreat
      @NovaaTheGreat 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@mxdicineYT yea we got same pfp lol. Also Kayo is from future

  • @alezarlaufeyson7191
    @alezarlaufeyson7191 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +114

    People (?) the "name thing" is already explained by Fade when she tried to blackmail Omen, Omen previous names was John, Fred, Marcus, Yohan and Dimitri. There is also the same voiceline of Viper saying "Fred--I mean, Omen."
    As Fade said, Omen maybe was already a "monster" before the first light: he was also a mercenary, it could be that they worked for the same person or Omen did something to ISO previous boss.

    • @NesifoX
      @NesifoX 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I think that the "event" created several fragments of omen, perhaps that's why fade gave several other names

    • @victor9939
      @victor9939 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      The theory of Iso being Omen doesn't make any sense to me, specially the audio of Viper calling Omen "Jo", it doesn't sound like Iso's name at all. People is now saying that in the trailer Iso looks like Omen for a second, all i can see is Iso being covered in purple light shields. Also the hourglass simbol doesn't seem to belong to Iso, it's probably the logo of an organization. In the last scene we see more hourglass simbols, which can confirm us it's the logo of an organization that knew Omen and wants to kill him now.

    • @knownpretzel6938
      @knownpretzel6938 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@victor9939 She could be saying Zhao which is his name

    • @swordzanderson5352
      @swordzanderson5352 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@knownpretzel6938 jo and zhao are DRASTICALLY different in pronunciation, even if you say it the American way.

    • @victor9939
      @victor9939 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@knownpretzel6938 Zhao sounds like "Jo"??? Mate you need to stop reading chinese names with american accent. And no, Viper mispronouncing his name is not a possibility, all their lines are correctly pronounced, even the names.

  • @cagricakir20
    @cagricakir20 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    My theory: Omen's past self was killed by ISO and now he is back to finish the job since Omen was revived unsuccesfully

    • @barbijudge
      @barbijudge 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      nah, I mean if someone dies, cant be a shadow monster :o Bc dont have shadow anymore XD Maybe hee's ISO's shadow... or something ._.

    • @darklord4531
      @darklord4531 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Omen died bcs of experiment

    • @heyluckilysam1904
      @heyluckilysam1904 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was thinking the same but i cant remeber how he died, i think it was a laboratory incident maybe...

    • @heyluckilysam1904
      @heyluckilysam1904 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i started to look again at the trailer for iso and the guard says anyone connected to this research so maybe omen was on of them and his death was covered as an accident while in reality it was ISO

  • @jamazzle
    @jamazzle 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

    In the Iso Official Music video, the title is Renegade, which means a person who deserts and betrays an organization. In the Iso Animated Trailer, he kills everyone who is connected to the research. As far as we know, Viper knows Omen in his human form, and Viper works as a scientist. Therefore, there is a high probability that Omen is also a researcher/scientist. So, what I'm saying is that Omen may have failed the catastrophe and become the shadowy monster we know, while from the other side, Iso, he may have prevented it and become a renegade.

    • @anasazhari4498
      @anasazhari4498 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah but you forget. According to Fade, Omen is a man of many names. Having many names implied that he had lived many lives and taken many identities before he became Omen. So it's less likely that he was a researcher or a scientist than he was objectively a spy.

    • @NovaaTheGreat
      @NovaaTheGreat 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I was thinking something similar to this but theres already two versions of omen in alpha and omega universe so it cant be true that one iso stayed the same and one turned into omen

    • @visstonewalker
      @visstonewalker 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NovaaTheGreat isnt omen only in one version? i thought it was like that

    • @jamazzle
      @jamazzle 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@visstonewalker I thought so too but lazy to check each Animated Videos of Valorant but iirc Omen rarely show up and if he do, only 1 side of the team, just don't know if its Alpha or Omega

    • @AllenCasimero
      @AllenCasimero 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​@@jamazzlehe appeared one time in omega earth and none in alpha iirc.

  • @Mampato101
    @Mampato101 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Ya'll really need a series like Arcane. I bet it'd do so well

  • @crayonator44
    @crayonator44 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I think its also supported by the fact that ISO's destablizing move that gives enemies the vulnerable effect works the same as omens Paranoia, having the same sort of shape and the ability to pass through walls.

  • @zee-we5bx
    @zee-we5bx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Viper was about to call Omen John not Zhao. John is one of 5 names Omen has been referred to and these names are implied to be from remnants of his memory's. The other names are Shin, Marcus, Yohan, Fred and Dimitri. I have had a theory for a while these names relate to people of omens past rather then himself but considering Viper (The only one who actually new omen before the "accident") called him John, John is probably his actual name well the others are figures from his past. TLDR I do not think Iso 'IS' Omen but he definitely has some sort of connection to him.
    Also, here is all the known Omen lore for those out of the loop: Omen was a normal human who scientist attempt to turn into a radiant via artificial means, but something in the experiment went wrong and he ended up "dyeing" although not completely. The experiment was partially a success and he remained as a sort of undead literal shadow of himself with barley any memory's of who he was and what happened to him. The only person who knows the whole truth is one of the scientist involved in the project and a close friend of Omen Sabine Callas call sing Viper. Different characters have called Omen different names. Viper has called him John, Fade called him Shin and I think Fred was something Cypher dug up (I don't remember who has called him by the other names just reading the list off the wiki)

    • @sleepy.timaeus.arts.
      @sleepy.timaeus.arts. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      !!! man this is so interesting 👀 i havent really looked at valo lore since the earlier days. very nice coming back to it now and seeing all these developments 😁

    • @hexterzerda
      @hexterzerda 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      this did not aged well

    • @jeongjae-oh9749
      @jeongjae-oh9749 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@hexterzerda clownery whaha

    • @tomodacho.
      @tomodacho. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Viper called Omen Fred before Valorant updated it to Joh (which you can argue it is John), but Zhao is pronounced with a "J", so it can also be arguable. Now we know Omen was not a "normal" human, he was an assassin from the hourglass company just like ISO. The way the people in the ISO trailer express about him seems like the same way they were expressing about Omen. I'm not believing this theory too much but it I can see how it makes sense.

    • @curlyhole8861
      @curlyhole8861 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tomodacho. why is zhao J💀

  • @user-tv4ih2kq6r
    @user-tv4ih2kq6r 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    He could be from where Kayo is from (future), where Omen could've been cured.
    Although, I still doubt the idea that they're the same person since the old members of Valorant protocol should've recognized him already or at least show a nostalgic interaction with him.

    • @wattson2840
      @wattson2840 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How Omen became how he is is also shrouded in mystery, the most plausible cause would the first light. So if we go with that then there would be no way the others would recognize him since they all joined the valorant protocol after the first light. (Unless it's Viper, since she seems to know a lot about Omen before he became the way he is).

    • @spookythebadplayer4832
      @spookythebadplayer4832 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      kayo isn't just from the future but a completely different timeline, so what happens in the future from kayo's timeline, is different because it could not end up like kayo's timeline at all.
      In the future but in a different timeline, because in Kayo's timeline, Valorant didn't seem to be a thing neither was the whole alpha and omega worlds.

    • @user-tv4ih2kq6r
      @user-tv4ih2kq6r 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@spookythebadplayer4832 Kayo's world is still about Humans vs Radiants. All the characters in the default world also exist and play same roles in Kayo's world. My point on signifying "future" is simply, the events happening there is something non-existant yet in the default world. Implying Omen there could've been someone different.

    • @spookythebadplayer4832
      @spookythebadplayer4832 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-tv4ih2kq6r im just saying it's not just the future but an alternative timeline, iso could also be from a different timeline and not just the future. Iso could also just be someone from the past in either timeline. I'm not invalidating whatever you said, it's just the alternative timeline is an important aspect so what could happen doesn't mean actually will happen in this timeline.

    • @user-tv4ih2kq6r
      @user-tv4ih2kq6r 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@spookythebadplayer4832 I know that Kayo's timeline is an alternate one. Nonetheless, the idea doesn't conflict to anything.
      In fact, the idea of him being in an alternate timeline would even be better proof to this case.
      Kayo didn't exist in prior timeline (default one), he only time travelled to get to the prior timeline. In this case, Iso and Omen could be the alternate existence of both timelines. Since, only Reyna and Brimstone (other than Kayo's) whereabouts in Kayo's timeline is disclosed.

  • @TheBashfullBloom
    @TheBashfullBloom 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Split... they don't know the meaning of the word." I got feelings that this speech has something to do with it

  • @THawkMedia
    @THawkMedia 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    My theory is that Omen isn't a single person, and is some sort of entity brought to life. We've heard him referred to as multiple names, and he talks about hearing different voices.

  • @anyhow8174
    @anyhow8174 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    And if you remember the REVELATIONS trailer, Omen was shown helping Sage using a sheriff, the same weapon that ISO used in his trailer

    • @dramaticreaper
      @dramaticreaper 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is a good point, omen usually never uses his abilities in the lore as well since it rips him apart, but he does that much for sage?

    • @carinag4635
      @carinag4635 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      woahhh

  • @fthememer
    @fthememer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Also ISO'S Q ability is similar to omen's blind

  • @nugget1757
    @nugget1757 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Cypher knows omens past, cypher was trying to recruit iso, kayo is from a different timeline and good storytelling has good foreshadowing

  • @nlchtdu
    @nlchtdu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Bro the voicelines between Omen and Iso will be soooo important for these theories here

  • @akatlas
    @akatlas 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    Crazy theory, but i cant get over the fact, their voices are pretty different, which I'm sure wouldn't be that much of a deal breaker, but still. Maybe Iso is a relative... Who knows?
    Edit: Maybe due to the memory loss, omen forgot about his chinese language, accent and more. So it is still possible that they are the same. And he does have the similar paranoia ability, but i guess we'll have to wait and see...

    • @herecomespatsky
      @herecomespatsky 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      One thing of course is the fact that omen is a literal shadow

    • @hoangduy9802
      @hoangduy9802 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Omen is not a human being, so maybe he can even change the voice how he like

    • @victor9939
      @victor9939 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's not possible, it's just a theory. We can find enough proof in the trailer and in-game to know they are not the same.

    • @WhoKnowsIt00001
      @WhoKnowsIt00001 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There's only one problem with that, at the end of the cinematic called "Shattered" there's a statue from four agents including Omen, and the map Pearl is on omega earth (while alpha earth also has Omen).

  • @FrancisBonk-oo6gm
    @FrancisBonk-oo6gm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I'm excited to see the voicelines they'll have together when Iso gets released

    • @TopHat_
      @TopHat_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They have no interesting or lore voicelines

    • @minicat4711
      @minicat4711 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yet... riot keeps updating the voicelines of agent@@TopHat_

  • @just.kyberr
    @just.kyberr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    I think, since it’s been theorized that the missing Agent 8 is ISO, this could explain why they scratched it off. Since iso and omen are split beings, this could explain why they scratched off and forgot about Agent 8. They most likely couldn’t work with both Omen and ISO together, or maybe iso got lost, or left because of the incident and the current omen stayed loyal. ISO and omen are the same person, but after their split, they probably gained different beliefs and ideas, leading to iso leaving because his consciousness is aware of how he split and doesn’t like the valorant team anymore. Omen however, stays loyal because it’s a shadow of his past self, and since his voice lines hint he doesn’t know about his origin, he probably has no recollection of the incident, which is why he stayed loyal. This is just a theory. Hopefully riot will capitalize on this lore opportunity to “somewhat” help the game in its dying my state

    • @just.kyberr
      @just.kyberr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @sleepfeelssogood it’s theorized that he’s agent 8

    • @Dragon_Island
      @Dragon_Island 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@just.kyberr Fade is looking for Agent 8. It is implied in the Cypher interrogation with her. When Cypher asked Fade how much she knew about Valorant she spilled everything she looked at "and the leave requests for every agent that bothers to file them." Meaning Agent 8 did not make a request to leave the Valorant Protocol, he is missing. I could be mistaken but why would she look through the leave requests if she weren't looking for "him"? Just wanted to put that out there.

  • @NovaaTheGreat
    @NovaaTheGreat 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    Riot made a community post showing isos card and it says "such a pleasure to meet you Li Zhao Yu. Please do give us a call". What if the hourglass token is a card that some organization gave to iso and hes working as an assassin for them?

    • @sillygoose42069
      @sillygoose42069 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ….we know he’s a hitman.

    • @CrustyJunior
      @CrustyJunior 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that's not new news lol, that's the main message they were sending. so no secrets there LOL

    • @NovaaTheGreat
      @NovaaTheGreat 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CrustyJunior i just said an interpretation of the post

  • @thewhatofweird2216
    @thewhatofweird2216 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    There is one issue i have with this: the hourglass was handed to Iso by someone so it wasnt his. as you see in the community image from valorant the hourglass is being handed to Iso like a business card and the tag says "nice to meet you li zhou yu. you should give us a call." Iso and Omen might be connected but its likely that either: a) iso is the reason omen became fragmented, b) Iso and Omen were approached by a similar agency recruiting or studying their abilities of teleportation, or c) Iso is supposed to kill omen but the reflection shows that Iso knows about omens past in the hourglass organization.

    • @darshgupta6276
      @darshgupta6276 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly! I doubt that they're the same as well

  • @hkimagineering5339
    @hkimagineering5339 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    And ISO in camera is a value that controls the amount of light your camera lets in, if Omen is related to shadow. 👀

  • @iron4517
    @iron4517 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    00:43 in chinese culture they call peoples names through the last 2 of their full name so it might be possible that his name is infact zhao yu but its just a theory

  • @aleksandrdz5587
    @aleksandrdz5587 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    It's Secretly Omen. AHAHAHHAHAHA even the name reveals a little if you think about it

    • @Bakashi
      @Bakashi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      I = Is
      S = Secretly
      O = Omen

    • @anxarts7424
      @anxarts7424 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      isomen

  • @Shawfide
    @Shawfide 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    one of omens voice lines says "dont let the spike explode, radianite explosions are...... complicated." maybe meaning that his past maybe had something to do with radianite explosion

  • @darklord4531
    @darklord4531 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think chamber is the person who iso communicate from the phone. Bcs in chmabers trailer we saw he practicing with omen statues. Plus, there is strangely no voice lines between omen and chamber.

  • @jbirdbombplayz1258
    @jbirdbombplayz1258 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    YO, when iso talks to omen in voice lines, he says the same thing the people said about him in his trailer. When he took a contract, people couldn’t escape or somthing

  • @BentoBoxxy
    @BentoBoxxy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Well, it is interesting as well that ISO is the first agent in Valorant to have an ethnicity that is the same as another’s (sage). It’s known that sage and omens lore are heavily connected as well so I wonder if ISO is linked with Sages lore then. I think it’s significant that this is the first time an agent has the same ethnicity as another since riot are pretty adamant on giving us characters of different backgrounds.

    • @ARClegend
      @ARClegend 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Well, there are two Americans already (Viper, Brimstone)

    • @hyysonin
      @hyysonin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ARClegendand Gekko

    • @BentoBoxxy
      @BentoBoxxy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      true true but american isn't really an Ethnicity. Gekko is from L.A which makes him American but he is Mexican. He has the same ethnicity as Reyna but being born in L.A. gives him differential from Reyna who is Mexican AND from Mexico. Which yeah I guess i forgot about them to be honest lol but they're still quite different. Gekko is to Reyna what Canadiens* are to the French lol. The same but very different. ISO being Chinese is very interesting though, since I really do think there might be a significance to sage since there's a significance to Omen. Either way I enjoy the lore and the theories aha

    • @carinag4635
      @carinag4635 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ARClegendamerican isn’t an ethnicity. it’s a nationality

  • @Kwadratowy0119
    @Kwadratowy0119 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "There is... another of me?"

  • @g9r0catucod72
    @g9r0catucod72 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    all i know is omen is a octopus and thats it for me
    edit: the thing that bothers me is that omen is how will omen and iso react seeing each other

  • @bingbong6474
    @bingbong6474 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow this is the first time ive seen that viper voice line. Im now 100% on board with this theory.

  • @randycarizo6329
    @randycarizo6329 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Iso’s ult looks likes omens smoke world thing and also is Iso’s vulnerable is also like omens paranoia and also ISO stands for Im Secretly Omen in also Iso’s trailer in 1:13 he looked like omen
    Same color scheme as omen too
    edit : i say also too much

    • @YTMifu
      @YTMifu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      trust me bro

    • @elijahokafor4775
      @elijahokafor4775 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah and iso also talks like omen... they literally the same

  • @ImMigrant98086
    @ImMigrant98086 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Then there is the ability of paranoia which is similar and their ults teleporting is also similar.

  • @delicorias
    @delicorias 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    theory: omen/zhao used to work on the reseach zhao is protecting with viper until an accident occured that caused apart of him to split into 2. he kills anyone who is trying the same research because he beleives its too dangerous

  • @vorvxwiz7739
    @vorvxwiz7739 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When you think about it Omen and ISO have very similar abilities too. Omens paranoia and ISO's Contigency is very similar no?

  • @wiggleman1219
    @wiggleman1219 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    well there is a high chance this happen if you just look at the skill set, iso ultimate tele him and oponent into a pocket dimension so probably omen ult is also iso ult but evolve into tele in real maps (and omen before go real map also stay in a pocket dimension form), the vulnerability straight up paranoid, wall skill now smoke but apply a bit more of that teleport theme of omen

  • @iwillgowiththatcat3697
    @iwillgowiththatcat3697 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One cool detail (maybe) Iso has a little pocket dimension and omen seems to almost have a little dimension of his own shown to be completely lifeless (you see it when placing smokes down).

  • @justsomeguythatwantssometh9986
    @justsomeguythatwantssometh9986 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    No wonder viper is simping on him

  • @juliustatar6330
    @juliustatar6330 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    THE HYPE WITH THE MUSIC JUST MADE THIS VIDEO 10 TIMES BETTER

  • @leiuwu3965
    @leiuwu3965 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    i refuse to believe omen used to be a chinese eboy looking assasin drinking boba teas

    • @yymei
      @yymei 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂

    • @carinag4635
      @carinag4635 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he looks like a normal chinese/hong kong uncle tbh. y’all are just chronically online

  • @anthonybyfield6975
    @anthonybyfield6975 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Viper probably know something of omen past just not telling him

  • @baboolpop6522
    @baboolpop6522 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    wait wait wait. One of isos voicelines is "Omen, they say once you took a contract, their death is inescapable. Anyway, I'm glad we're friends." WHAT!! Could that mean omen was a bounty hunter like iso? is that why omen remembers the hourglass symbol? is that why they want omen killed? did they try to kill omen themselves but it failed so they tried to bring iso to finish the job off? and also: "Omen, everything they say about you is true" who is they? coworkers? the hourglass dude? And: "i know what that omen is capable of." maybe bcause he's you?! These voicelines with omen hint at so much...

  • @aritrapatra8523
    @aritrapatra8523 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My theory is that omen and iso are brothers as in Chinese one brother can be names Li Zhao Yu and other can be Lin Zhao Yu( I don't know chinese). As them being same is more unrealistic.

    • @carinag4635
      @carinag4635 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      so real

  • @xennnyu8664
    @xennnyu8664 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Valorant lore is so interesting. If there was even a book narrated by riot I’d read it😭

  • @nancuyyy
    @nancuyyy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    its crazy knowing they have 1 similiar skill, if iso is past omen, how he can live in the same timeline as omen.

    • @nlchtdu
      @nlchtdu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I mean Kay/O is also from the future so we know that it's possible. And also who knows if he's not from the parallel universe?

  • @saubhadrsamod1040
    @saubhadrsamod1040 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    if only viper would speak clearly and we would get to know what shes saying

    • @justjuniorjaw
      @justjuniorjaw 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      "Zha- I mean Omen. Keep yourself together. You're still needed."

    • @rxxalyz3071
      @rxxalyz3071 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@justjuniorjawyo?

    • @tylink99
      @tylink99 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@justjuniorjaw she said john

    • @barbijudge
      @barbijudge 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Guys she said Zhao!!! Omen is ISO :o

    • @berry_ramune
      @berry_ramune 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tylink99it zhao you can make zh in a j sound

  • @squeakykurrykid
    @squeakykurrykid 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Also the agents' abilities are pretty similar, like-
    omen's smoke is kind of similar to iso's contingency i.e it gives cover (much more similar to other agents but still)
    omen's paranoia is very similar to iso's undercut (very similar to each other down to the way they travel)
    omen's shrouded step is kind of similar to iso's double tap i.e it gives an opportunity to get into a new position or get away
    and finally omen's ult is similar to iso's ult where it transports them to another place (see that where iso is force to return to his old position, omen is not forced)
    all of this is my opinion and it is a bad one but I feel that they are similar.

    • @squeakykurrykid
      @squeakykurrykid 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kidhipsterx9492thanks and yeah my idea was far fetched :D

  • @Beingyun
    @Beingyun 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    also, the map does the wavy black smoke ghost thing from omen's ult when iso uses his ult,

  • @AnViiiiiiiiiiii
    @AnViiiiiiiiiiii 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    isnt omen from america since him and viper used to be co workers so that means she was js saying "john" since its a common name

  • @joshglez369
    @joshglez369 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This makes sense and it would be a mindblowing plot twist. Nice video!

  • @jibberwocky4054
    @jibberwocky4054 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    yeah nah theories aside this just doesnt work
    We know the Viper voiceline says John, and it was later updated to say “Fred” (or vice versa) because those are in the list of names Fade found when trying to blackmail Valorant Protocol
    All the shadows and reflections, if they symbolise anything at all, are most likely their connection to eachother and the hourglass symbol

  • @johnsteve3765
    @johnsteve3765 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    cant wait to hear their connection in game via voice lines

  • @Sg190th
    @Sg190th 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ah these voicelines really do come back into memory. I actually thought she called him "John" until Iso came out.... now this adds more into this lore....

  • @runngun8067
    @runngun8067 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it may can be shadow of iso which came in contact with radianite while it exploded
    and while Ressurecting everyone sage resurrected the shadow by mistake or in confusion maybe
    or may be while radnite exploded ISO USED his sheild to protect him but was unable to save his shadow and then his shadow became omen after being resurrected by sage

  • @ItsKarma32
    @ItsKarma32 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My theory is, Omen and Iso where related before all that happened to omen, Iso seems kind of sad that Omen is his target

  • @neil2t628
    @neil2t628 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think omen in an "Anomaly" in this universe because Riot introduced "Time Travel and Parallel world "in the story So think about it omen is a result of an experiment of space -time distortion causing him to be a "partially a singularity" and in SHATTERED // Episode 5: DIMENSION Cinematic , KILLJOY mentions about a "reality stabilizer " and in OMEN VOICE LINE
    "There is another of me. How many times did I get ripped apart? How many times did I die?"

  • @ghoulboss7848
    @ghoulboss7848 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I dont think Iso and Omen are linked in being the same person, but from different times, or being torn apart. I think they are linked because Iso had a hand it turning omen into what he is today.

    • @jessicacs5354
      @jessicacs5354 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is supported by the look of iso’s face when being shown his next target

  • @mitjust5792
    @mitjust5792 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If Iso and Omen is one person split into two
    I just wonder how rito gonna explains the timeline cause it gonna fuck all the timeline up completely

  • @ominously2574
    @ominously2574 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ISO’s second ability is the same as omen’s second ability… and he can tp just like omen

  • @corpik5380
    @corpik5380 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    iso might just be the reason omen is the way he is

  • @t_raywen8750
    @t_raywen8750 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Didn’t riot also say something like we will get a character that we already know this year? Maybe they referred to iso being omen

    • @nlchtdu
      @nlchtdu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Could be true, but they could have meant that it's just agent 14 (I'm not sure which agent it was but there was one who was in the Valorant Protocol earlier on and something happened that nobody talked about. Maybe he left the Valorant Protocol (would make sense because his theme song is called renegade) And since we knew that one guy was there it is a agent we somehow already know. But I like your theory

    • @t_raywen8750
      @t_raywen8750 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nlchtdui think they specifically said that it’s not going to be agent 14. But i am not sure id these are just rumors to begin with

  • @pyrotheparasaurolophus
    @pyrotheparasaurolophus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    when he looks at the phone the folders have hourglass symbols on them and at the top there is one too

  • @ItsXentaur
    @ItsXentaur 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    WAIT: ISO - IS OMEN; so, "IS OMEN" if you cut a part off (men) it spells iS O which spells iso which further proves iso is omen

  • @blank9493
    @blank9493 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For the viper voice line she was about to call him “John” because omen used to go by the name of john

    • @misakunn6458
      @misakunn6458 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no, it's just a theory, that he is john. It is possible but this theory is better

  • @escorpianoyqueee
    @escorpianoyqueee 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Adding you another hint, In a previous video, omen is snipping a bonsai, which is something very Assian to do. You can see this also in the card called "Scars that bond" which is very strange name also... bond with whom?... and the most obvious... when accessing split map... omen says "Split, they don't know the meaning of the word."

    • @kizu5234
      @kizu5234 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very Asian to do 😭

    • @escorpianoyqueee
      @escorpianoyqueee 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kizu5234 why you cry?

    • @abu5ive
      @abu5ive 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@escorpianoyqueee cultural systematic racism

    • @escorpianoyqueee
      @escorpianoyqueee 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@abu5ive so you basically dismiss a 1800 years tradition from Asians with the idea that is "racism".... you are cultural-systematic destroyers of humanity, only time will tell the damage that woke culture like yours made to the world. Sad.

  • @olaipawkdd7024
    @olaipawkdd7024 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think maybe in the voice line that omen didn't hear viper because he didn't use the hearing aid the things that Iso wear is his ears

  • @yonatan99
    @yonatan99 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    BTW the teaser in sunset look like omen tp

  • @renaldifauzipratama7097
    @renaldifauzipratama7097 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Omen could be member of the "Hourglass" org and become a defect. That's why the org wants Omen dead cuz he knew something important about the org and also, Iso probably close to Omen when he's still in the org, that's why Iso looked sad in the phone reflection and he knew the time has come to finally kill his brother in hood.

  • @dedayudi1739
    @dedayudi1739 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They are from the same family (twins maybe) but once they grew up, they split paths never talking to each other again. The hourglass symbol is probably something to do with their family.

  • @lovelyjuliexo
    @lovelyjuliexo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    if Iso is Omen from the past then wouldn't Viper have recognized him seeing as she knew Omen BEFORE the incident happened?
    but the part with the name... what if Omen and Iso are related?
    it would explain why Iso hasn't tried to get rid of Omen, even though Omen is meant to be his next target... 🤔

  • @lemooniii835
    @lemooniii835 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    viper really just knows so much stuff

  • @ariviovae7966
    @ariviovae7966 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thats some cinematic storytelling if ive ever seen it

  • @_ZEROtheRENEGADE
    @_ZEROtheRENEGADE 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When is VALCANE going to be released again?

  • @mehulverma1132
    @mehulverma1132 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As we all know there is an episode named evolution were riot shows that there is parallel universe .... and the tp shown in sunset trailer .... i think when the tp was broken by deadlock , from there ISO returned to kingdom... ISO , a human form of OMEN

  • @lem2004
    @lem2004 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When iso dies in DOMAIN EXPANSION, he turned into omen

  • @zswordlol6343
    @zswordlol6343 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i personaly think iso is the past or maybe the omega version of omen since omen have a memory about the hour glass just dont remember what it is and viper called almost omen zhao and in the trailer iso is kinda likea shadowy character with glowing eyes might be riot hinting at us something

  • @ottersaurus
    @ottersaurus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We never saw two universes’ omen on screen at the same time. Maybe ISO is just omen but a success

  • @gaminghighpriest5293
    @gaminghighpriest5293 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    incredible theory... another possiblity:
    We all know that in chinese names the first syllable is the family name (or surname) and the last two syllables r the person's given name
    but also according to wiki:
    "Most family names are just one Chinese character. A few have two characters. Most given names have two characters, some have one, and very occasionally three are used."
    what if Li zhao the entirety of it is their family name and that only Yu is iso's real name and maybe omen is his brother and has the name "li zhao ___"
    he sighed like he saw somebody he knew when he got omen on his hitlist. it could be himself sure cuz he knows of himself, but it could also be a family member, u know
    so thats my pitch

  • @seeedey
    @seeedey 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When omen gets revived he says that he lost focus implying that hes bulletproof to some extent

    • @seeedey
      @seeedey 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no the voice line for sage reviving omen omen says i lost focus for a second@Alticulation

  • @DrDoom2345
    @DrDoom2345 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the fact that almost everyone knows about omens past but are too afraid of him and what he could potentionally do

  • @js.josippp
    @js.josippp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this would actually be such a riot thing to do, they already did this foreshadowing kinda stuff with league of legends.

  • @cikiface13
    @cikiface13 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    omen is not iso, omen is Iso's brother. He gave him the pendant with the hourglass before his experiment with viper.

    • @nlchtdu
      @nlchtdu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But why would Iso have Omen as target then? Well it didn't say that he has to kill the target but still...

    • @gabepano
      @gabepano 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Omen is not Asian, he's an American, and he ain't his brother, because Brimstone, Viper, Omen and Iso used to work together before...

  • @darshgupta6276
    @darshgupta6276 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I first saw this, and yes I'm familiar with all the lore in VALORANT up to this point, I thought that Iso is a member of some sort of assassin's organization, because he was asked to carry out a hit on whoever those people were in the cinematic, and he got an order to kill Omen, who I'm sure was associated with this organization, whose symbol is the hourglass, in some way or another. This organization must have learnt about Omen's existence and his "new life" in the VALORANT protocol and decided that he was a loose end to tie up before he spilled anything of importance when his memory returned.
    I think I saw this in Brimstone's room in an email he received from Deadlock. I could be wrong about the source but I clearly remember seeing an email like this, in which Deadlock says that she found a new recruit (Iso) that is willing to work for the Protocol in exchange for protection from his employers. Considering Iso is said to be a hitman for hire that can take out entire squads by himself, it's quite interesting to note that he needs the protection of the Protocol by his side to be safe from his employers. 😳
    I personally don't think it's possible that Iso is Omen because they both are radiants. It's kind of like eating a devil fruit or having a Stand. You can only have one specific set of powers and you cannot acquire more ones that are different from your own set. I mean Omen was initially a human but it's theorized that he was ripped apart completely during the First Light and Sage had to resurrect him but failed to do so completely because of how scattered and split apart every cell of his body was. I think Omen's real name is John though. In Fade's dossier about Omen I'm pretty sure Zhao or any other Chinese names weren't in the list. John was though. So even though this theory is interesting. I'm still not convinced that Iso is Omen.

    • @hakankaya1801
      @hakankaya1801 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Iso'nun işverenlerinden korunma talep etmesi ilginç değil mi?Çok güçlü bir seri katil gibi duruyor oysa

  • @Jebartinola
    @Jebartinola 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Omen could potentially just be ISO's shadow trying to reflect his image

  • @andriyrio
    @andriyrio 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Recently in game Omen’s smokes have been giving off triangle particles which Iso’s abilities give off too

    • @TheRegularBoy
      @TheRegularBoy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thats all smokes, its an update

  • @NVGhost05
    @NVGhost05 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    logicly iso and omen cant be the same person unless they are from a different universes but they are not so that mean he might be connect to omen in some way

  • @Gigabot3009
    @Gigabot3009 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And for no reason he’s wearing a bandaid and as you all know omen has tons of bandages on him. I can’t remember if raze has a bandaid too but her reason is she’s raze I mean she’s a mess

  • @thedotylil_8176
    @thedotylil_8176 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    and the domain expansion is where he fcked up and got revived by sage

  • @Lone_Rocket
    @Lone_Rocket 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They are definitly related somehow, but im not sure they're the same person. This might turn into a looper situation tho.

  • @ip1335
    @ip1335 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Or, Iso is the alternate version of omen who gained radianite powers without the severe backlash of existing in two planes. Like how Kay/o says that sage is a weapon in his universe

  • @sturicky2105
    @sturicky2105 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think it’s just correlation cuz it’s been inferred omen was a scientist and iso is a hitman

  • @sAn_wRk
    @sAn_wRk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wait, so we can consider Omen & ISO are the same person but separed because of the experience???? That's why they're related?
    ISO being Omen from the past is too big i think. But it could be the same but "clones" if you know what i mean.