CORRECTION: In the original version of this video, I accused Ana of stalking Destiny based on allegations that he had made against her. After talking to Ana myself, she showed me evidence of Destiny privately admitting to her that the stalking allegations were a lie. I would like to apologize to Ana for promoting this allegation of stalking from Destiny as if it was fact. I think this just goes to show ANOTHER example of the type of manipulation that Destiny and his community have been pushing against his victims. However, I take full responsibility for making this mistake. It is incredibly important to me that I get all of the facts right, and I am deeply sorry to Ana if me supporting this allegation from Destiny brought her any more emotional distress. After talking with Ana, we are on good terms with each other and she said that she was perfectly happy with me leaving this pinned comment and editing the stalking allegation out of the video
Ah okay so that's where the two seconds went, perfectly understandable edit there glad u and her got a chance to talk. Destiny sounds like a truly massive scumbag so not surprised he'd lie and slander with something like that. Can't trust a single thing from people like him it seems.
Thank you for making this video and compiling all of this in one place. Your point about being “old news” really struck me. For someone that works online, I am chronically out of the loop with internet drama. I really only ever knew destiny for clips where he buried Ben Shapiro or Candice Owens. Because of this I assumed he was a pretty good dude and I even went on his podcast back in the fall. This has completely changed my perspective. Any one of the instances in this video are abhorrent on their own. Combined, they are absolutely reprehensible. I will be contributing to the fundraisers you linked, in hopes that some of those wronged get the justice they deserve. Thanks again for your hard work and from a personal place, for opening my eyes to this.
I love your videos and first saw you on that podcast. I've been a casual watcher of destiny for years and I didn't know most of this. I'm done watching him. For what it's worth, I'm glad you did that show or I'd never have seen your videos
Thank you for being transparent about this! I can't lie, I was a bit disappointed when I first saw your collaboration with him before but I'm glad to know you only knew him on a surface level.
I’m involved with a case where a man shared a vid of me, w/o consent while I was unconscious, and it’s been ongoing for 3+ years. PLEASE don’t let the voices of these women be silenced. And thank you for standing up against a bully Beard ♥️
Sadly I had a man share my nud3s online when I was only 13. I got groomed into it and I thought I did good. Now Its probably floating somewhere online. I hope people speak about these things more in the future, because it got normalized real fast and people victim blamed alot back in the day.
@@csokissuti7343 I was 14 when it happened to me. He convinced me to send pics as "art reference". I feel so dumb, but I was naive, sheltered, and raised to be blindly trusting of my elders (Thanks, mom). So I did it and handed them over because it never occurred to me that he was lying, let alone that he'd do THAT.
Is Lauren Southern really a white nationalist? I know she's right-wing, but I didn't think she was racist or anything like that. Do you have proof for that, or is this a "casually tossing out accusations against right-wing people" kinda thing?
Bruh... Destiny threatening to leak the recording of Denims... doesn't that mean he just literally confessed to a crime? I guess he could say he was joking, but Denims accuses him of having an illegal recording, and he goes "Yeah maybe I should just leak that recording that I do have", so... seems like an admission of guilt to me. Police?
my jaw hit the floor like 5 minutes in and every time i went to pick it up something else abhorrent came up in the video and it just dropped even lower. Most effective takedown vid ive ever seen.
Destiny openly displaying his ignorance of "freezing" as a trauma response, suggests that HE is the one who isn't emotionally mature enough to be having sex, not the person he is trying to belittle.
THISSS. i could not fathom ever being in a sexual interaction without such basic knowledge of consent and stress responses. if you aren't mature and knowledgeable enough to recognise those kinds of non-verbal indications of discomfort, you shouldn't be having sex at all.
@@rat-gang-me a psych major who’s been in therapy since I was 13 only learned this at 23 after a rape it’s not common knowledge wtf 😂 and knowing this knowledge doesn’t make you immediately emotionally mature or immature
Serious questions: Why SHOULDN’T a victim of revenge porn pursue money for their suffering? Especially from the POS that ruined their life? Ask yourself, in what other scenarios do we demand this degree of selflessness from victims? People understand financial compensation for all other types of damages, but sex crimes are the exception. Why? I WISH after my r*pe I’d been able to afford some kind of comfort. Maybe fly to somewhere warm and sit by the ocean for a bit. Have one moment of peace and happiness in this shitty life. Instead, I worked two backbreaking jobs through my post-assault injuries and the following years of mental breakdown just to make rent. Couldn’t even afford more than a few therapy sessions. I did what these people want. I got justice. Cold comfort, let me tell you. That process was nearly as bad as the assault itself. My life is in ruins. I will never be the same and I have nothing. Pxie, do not let anyone shame you out of asking for money. You’ll get nothing else.
Because giving people financial incentive to report crimes will lead to people reporting crimes that didnt happen. tip lines dont work for a reason too.
@@turkish8969 That's very expensive for both parties involved and in these types of crimes the odds are heavily in the defendant's favor as most people experiencing actual abuse already don't extensively document exactly what was done and when with a strong methodology. So no, I don't think this is an actual concern. The bigger concern is public opinion, but even then usually the alleged abuser is the one with the platform, so again the cards are usually stacked against the accuser. I don't really follow internet drama much anymore, but from what I've seen nowadays people making false allegations are eventually exposed for doing so more often than not.
Exactly this is why the onus is on the content creator to not sleep around with everyone and their mother. They shouldn't be shocked when a clout hungry fan girl pokes a hole in the rubber or retracts their consent years later for an easy payday. He was just asking for it by being the town bicycle tbh.
@@turkish8969 This is hypothetical fear speaking. Rape is underreported. Even if what you fear was true it would take centuries of increases to even catch up to false reports of robbery.
The “he’s addressed this already” defense baffles me. Like sure, OJ addressed the whole “killing his wife” thing too but you know what tends to come up when you mention OJ?
He and Vaush have done this extensively as a defense, and I used to like Vaush and bought a lot of that stuff. He tells his fans this to keep them around and discourage they look into it because it's horrendous stuff. I assumed they HAD addressed a lot of these things properly and then later on found they were full of shit. It's more about protecting his standing with his own audience more than anything though and keeping them insulated from the truth.
Destiny implying that no woman has ever died because of rape is insane. There's countless stories of women being raped and murdered, what the fuck is he on about. What a horrible person.
@@penja1646there are terrible instances where sick perverts to that to smaller or younger people, causing the younger people to die of internal bleeding.
@@penja1646 not to defend Destiny, but you sorta had to add "DEFEND Destiny" in order for it to make sense. It's funny to try and lightly pierce an argument in order to divide the overall opinion.
@@penja1646 that's a nice gotcha and all, but people have actually died from internal hemorrhaging and other injuries caused by the assault itself so you're still wrong. And that's without even touching on the fact that violence is so commonly part of rape that to separate the two is to erase a major motivation for it, or the fact that separating violence and rape contributes to people not taking assaults seriously.
Destiny saying stealthing is "Not scary enough" to evoke a freeze response is fucking insane. A man who has a lot of control over your body at the time choosing to completely disregard your consent is terrifying. If your consent matters so little about something as simple as a condom, its terrifying to imagine what would happen next if you try to intervene. Its terrifying to try to find the right words to say to deescalate the situation when every option is like a landmine that feels like it could make it worse.
Seriously!! It is terrifying. And, even if you didn’t freeze, you might reasonably CHOOSE not to say anything for fear that he wouldn’t listen and would get angry and take what he wants violently. Like, regardless of whether the woman is having a freeze response, it might be an idea to ignore it for your own safety.
Guys like destiny always use that kind of tactic: "Me? No i could possibly SA someone. Just look at me, I'm just dainty little bluehaired femboy, I'm no threat to anyone." It's so creepy and just a way to avoid taking accountability for their actions.
I am another person who freezes when attacked or in danger! Fun fact, once on the London tube some drunk Brits were fighting and one guy started screaming that the other guy had a gun. My friends practically had to drag me off the car because I just sat there frozen lol.
Some mental health professionals actually refer to it as the fight, flight, or freeze response now. Because your body can have very different reactions to stress. Freezing up as a response to trauma is very normal. I hope you find healing.
@@wumbojethe’s still around? I never watched a video from him, but I’ve not even seen other people talk about him in years (other than mentioning old stuff) so I thought he actually did retire!
Except he's right about Pixie. She chose to behave like a whore and it bit her in the ass. Maybe not behave like a degenerate with a sexual predator? 😂
I’m honestly genuinely shocked he’s been that gross for so long. Like I just didn’t like him because he’s annoying prick. Now I don’t like him because he’s an annoying prick, AND sexual predator
I had a guy stealth me once, and I froze. I had told him multiple times to wear the condom, and when he didn’t, I think my body froze just to get it over with. The guy also whispered into my ear that he loved me despite us only meeting that day. As soon as the guy left, I curled into a ball on the floor and had one of the worst panic attacks of my life. It was an absolutely terrifying experience. I was so paranoid that I had gotten an STD. I felt so dirty. I felt so used. People like Destiny are why people are afraid to come forward and talk about their sexual assaults. If you don’t talk about it, then you’re told you’re stupid for not reporting it. If you do talk about it, you’re told that you’re a liar and probably wanted it.
Thank you for sharing your experience, I'm deeply sorry you experienced this. It's disgusting how widespread and normalised gaslighting women about what is/isn't consent has been for so, so long. Wish you all the best in the world.
@ It’s been about 3 years since that happened, and it’s helped me to talk to my friends and loved ones about their SA experiences because, unfortunately, it’s super common. I wish so badly that society was more open to SA victims and their stories because I believe that if we were more open, we could tackle the issue and help to decrease the rate of SA. And thank you so much!! I also wish you the best, and I hope that if someone that went through something similar sees my comment, they can understand that they’re not alone in their experience. SA and trauma in general can feel super isolating, and feeling alone in those moments is one of the worst feelings.
You are far too immature to be having sex. Just because you're of legal age doesn't mean you have the maturity or responsibility for casual sex. No one is excusing that guys actions, he should be arrested. But you shouldn't have been in that situation either. That's his point, and it's a pretty reasonable one. I'm sorry that you grew up in a privileged and sheltered world where everyone owes it to you to not be terrible people and you bear no responsibility in your own life which lead to that happening, but that doesn't mean you have to tell every other young woman that she bears absolutely no responsibility when it comes to casual sex and even if she's not mature enough she should just jump into it if she wants and if a guy comes along and does some rapey stuff then womp womp unlucky! Nothing you can do about it you just pulled the short straw and now you gotta live with it better luck next time!
@@toastytoonsya I think you are either mistakenly or deliberately falsifying when Hasan noted (quite rightly) that rape would not justify apartheid or genocide. Meanwhile Destiny appears here doing rape apologia and molesting/sexually assaulting someone on camera and then notes that he will be apologizing (aka totally aware of how wrong that was).
I was a fan of Destiny for over two years and I can't believe that I let him talk me into rationalizing a lot of these actions in the video so that I could continue supporting him. I got banned from his sub for daring to speak against him and then I realized that Mr Girl was right about a lot of his criticisms and accusations. I'm fucking embarrassed that it took me this long but I'm glad you compiled a video laying it all out, because hearing about all the fucked up shit he's done without his voice in the back of my head explaining it all way, I'm sick to my stomach that I actually supported this monster.
As a woman with clinically diagnosed CPTSD - I experience a freeze response as well and struggle with dissociating when I am triggered (esp in the bedroom). I have to be really mindful navigating casual and intimate relationships, but before my diagnosis I had no idea that this was what was happening to me. It resulted in situations where I was harmed and in one situation the police were involved and very helpful and lovely to me. I just want to say this for anyone who was affected by destinys comments about women having a freeze response, this is a biological thing especially when it comes to trauma and is entirely valid. It is a way to stay alive when you are uncertain of your safety. Sending love x
I deal with Depersonalization 24 / 7 where I am in the freeze response, I feel numb and out of body non stop ever since 2019 due to trauma. As scary as dissociation is, it's perfectly healthy and safe. If you feel numb, zoned out, or detached from reality do not worry and try non to panic it's a response to if lets say a tiger or bear was eating you, so you can detach from your situation. Your body is trying to help you not hurt you. Just dropping this here incase anyone else deals with dissociation to help ease the mind and to not feel abnormal or feel like you are loosing yourself. You are not and trauma can be healed
@@NcK_146 omg, tySm🥹 i have been experiencing this for a couple of years now (after getting stuck in an extremely abusive living situation) & i was thinking it was some form of agoraphobia or something but THIS is it 🙌🏼 i can not wait to tell my doctor that i actually understand what he was saying now so i can continue making progress 😅 so yeah… ty for sharing 😇 💜💜💜 🤗 *Edit: congratulations on ur own progress too 🤦🏽♀️ i got so excited i almost forgot 😂 thx again 💕
by making a bad faith dishonest video? instead of adressing the actual proven allegations he clip chimped 90% of the video about points that are not true in the slightest sad cause there's actual shit to critise destiny on and hold him accountable on, but goes on a 90 minute rant of old out of context clips, this is a sad piece of content well he admits this is going to be bad faith as he hates him, so at least he's honest about him being a bad faith commentator
@@KamilDeKerel If you can't point to any specifics here then you're just mindlessly parroting the same tired and, funnily enough, bad faith responses to criticism of Destiny.
@@landonstrong9686 Okay i see SO lets look at the intro a bunch of out of context clips that are literally one liners where you're led to believe things by shaping the intro to be him lying about the things he says in which: 1. Destiny constantly lies 2. attacks people relentlesly (by showing a tweet from 2015, one of the most edgiest periods in internet history) 3. him having secret recordings of people (which there's 0 proof of, even in this video) 4. him not talking about everything and only putting a narrative ('ill talk about everything") 5. him lying about not fucking lauren southern (what does this have anything to do with anything?) 6. Acting like destiny is being a hypocrite with NFT's while he has a very nuanced position (doesnt peddle it like a thing that will go up in value, he literally said that that shit would become worthless and people should only buy it cause of the clip it resembled (his nfts were linked to populair clips on his channel)) his position is that hyping up crypto scams to your audience and enjoying profits from rugs is unethical, he never did that with his nft's and was very explicit with his intent and what would happend 7. him saying the genocide stuff was him being hyperbole about lefties pushing the narrative onto him that supporting certain points of isreal just means he wants a genocide and palestians to leave, so he doubled down as to jokenly say well you just want to push this narrative on me i guess i just believe x and x then 8. The grooming thing is just factual, sexting minors doesnt mean grooming, its wrong in every sense and pdflic, but grooming is explicitly warming them up to be your wife by talking them into it when they're young and trying to influence them into marrying you, thats not sexting, I dont know the context apart from that, but there's literally only factual things being said, sexting can be with a grooming intent but grooming isnt just sexting 9. pulling the old rittenhouse mowing down dipsh*t protesters line, was about him not caring if people who are torching buildings at night getting shot by people trying to protect their property, which is a strong claim 10. him saying k y s, out of context, dont know every clip tho so no clue what it even was about, which is a problem on it own thats literally from the first 3 minutes if thats not a dishonest intro to a even more bad faith video, im not sure what is, im dont with this for today
I’ve literally never heard of this guy until today (I’m not really online I guess). But as a survivor, it is so painful to hear the sh*t this guy’s said-and I’m not even halfway through this video. My negative and traumatizing experiences have made it really really hard to revoke consent and fight the “freeze response,” even in situations that started off as “consensual.” This response only re-traumatizes survivors, even with partners they feel they trust. I wanted so badly to end it but froze in the face of it. My brain and body shut down and I became a spectator of the situation. It sucks and hearing people reinforce such awful opinions about women’s experiences makes the guilt and self-blame so much worse. Makes it harder and harder to cope or to come forward.
I'm deeply sorry you have experienced this, it was never your fault, we (who benefit deteriorated consent standards under patriarchy) collectively failed to listen, learn, and hold one another properly accountable. We've had decade after decade of outspoken folks (primarily women), I'd like to think the tide is turning, but it's far too little far too late. Wishing you all the more strength, and am grateful you shared your perspective here.
Yea it’s so weird destiny and his ardent fan base seem to be so awakened on every topic except consent and sex and specifically women in a heterosexual sexual dynamic(I think his opinions on BLM was also a notable blemish as well). I think it’s proof that hate can exist no matter how hard you try not to, maybe one day my former friend (just another left wing destiny fan) will see the error of his mysoginy and how blinded he is, but it seems in our cultural moment these individuals are giving into their rage and opting out of politics or even voting for the team who is weaponizing the rhetoric. It’s like the old ‘southern strategy’ has a modern equivalent, virgin single male. Virgin not being the status but that the rhetoric demonizes women so much that it will cause chronic sexlessness and unhealthy relationships, and single because, part of the rhetoric is to define yourself as hard to date. The propaganda is designed to come off smart and logical while ceding ever more ground to preconceptions which are hateful toward women, and so some people start with Shapiro some people start with destiny but they still end up enabling or supporting the policies that they would say they disagree with, because the group they hate the most is suffering, women who aren’t having sex with them.
@@Mustekalan Women especially, but also humanity in general. He's a sociopathic little nihilist overall. He constantly expresses glee in being destructive to other people overtly and encourages the same behaviour in his community. He should be treated like the creep he is
He’s definitely also done weird shit vs minors, we know he shared sexual images of a 15 year old This isn’t normal and how people sort of rationalize this in internet bubbles is disturbing; I don’t care if I had internet or real life renown - a minor fangirling in her immaturity and developing years and sending me nudes would get an instant delete ( frankly I doubt I would even be comfortable receiving any selfies from a child *for the risk it might contain the explicit* ) and certainly not saving and sharing which is distribution of child sexual content and is a crime in any civilized country.
@@KamilDeKerelThe proof is destiny's admissions? Like, wtf are you on about? Watch the video that you're commenting on. Destiny has provided all of the proof himself.
@@KamilDeKerelhe literally opened discussed it saying “15 y o shared nudes her body was so hot” and we have the screencaps of his image share to chats what the fuck are you talking about, google it you idiot
26:00 also, even if they aren't "frozen", they could also be scared that trying to assert their boundaries will make the man angry and potentially lead to a much more violent experience. so many women are told their whole lives "never fight back, it just makes them angrier" in regards to men, and that is a mantra constantly repeating in their minds. i know that's how it is for me at least.
Not talking about stealthing here, since that's a blatant crossing of boundaries but in general, if you cannot express your boundaries and say if you don't like something during sex, you should not be having sex until you learn to do that.
@heythankstommy ideally yea but generally people don't know they're going to have these reactions until it happens. they also don't tend to expect to end up in situations where their boundaries are being violated. like you wouldn't choose to be with someone if you knew you were going to be not okay with it, obviously. so it's pretty inane advice to just say "well don't do it then". also, it really is not asking a lot to get verbal consent before doing anything with someone
@@heythankstommy This is literally victim blaming. “You didn’t feel safe enough to say no? Well maybe it’s your fault you got assaulted then.” I hope you meant to have more nuance with your comment otherwise this is exactly how it reads.
@heythankstommy yeah... This is why rapist go for kids or young adults, because they know those people haven't learned to set boundaries properly yet so they can gaslight the f**** out of them. Stop blaming victims.
steven: lmaoooo i treated my ex wife like shit!!! ex wife: steven treated me like shit steven: i am being slandered & have never done anything maliciously in my whole life
@@Axxilles Yeah I love calling my supposed "Friends" orbiters which is a derogatory term for people trying to either ride on the coat tails of someone elses success or for men who constantly try to get a with a women streamer they watch. Orbiter has always been an insult and good natured ribbing usually doesnt look like calling your friends mooches constantly.
Shout out to Ryan-- literally was assaulted and had a fawn response not even two or three months prior to his take going viral. And I was struggling with so much shame and anguish at the time, I stopped going outside and interacting with people because it felt like they could see it on me. And when I saw that shit go viral and so many people defending Destiny. I just shrunk back from online spaces altogether because I felt like a Disgusting Creature and like I was genuinely too stupid to interact with other people. I'm in a better place but after all this time it feels good to hear someone really breakdown and point out how fucked up that was of him to say. Thanks homie. ❤
Jesus Christ, I am so sorry. It's incredibly hard to get out of that place. Like, it low-key feels impossible while you're there. Proud of you. I mean it.
Just want to reiterate your response to a traumatic situation is not your fault. A majority of victims experience, a freeze or fawn response. It is actually the minority of victims who have a fight response. There’s nothing wrong with you and it’s not something you did wrong. I’m really proud of you, and I’m really happy you are still here today.
@ what’s the point of your comment, other than to be cruel? If you don’t care or see the point in the comment keep scrolling. I have seen multiple people commenting the same experience. It’s good when people dispel misconceptions about SA, because it helps survivors better contextualize their story. It’s good when survivors talk opening and share their experiences because it helps others realize they are not alone, and it helps combat shame surrounding the experience. It’s a good thing when survivors talk openly about their experiences.
Destiny really said, “I probably will give better sex advice to a minor than their parents would,” and then when asked how the parents would feel about a 30-something talking to their underage kid about sex he said, “I don’t know, that’s a conversation they should be having with their parents anyways.” He’s so shifty, dude can’t make a clear stance
That was genuinely where I started saying "no, stop, shut up" out loud at the screen because his mental gymnastics were about to give me a migraine. Yes, of course there are a lot of reasons a minor wouldn't be comfortable talking to their parents about sex, but I am certain you can just find some free educational resources about sex made for minors online and send a link, instead of getting into explicit details WITH A CHILD. It's not hard to figure out what the right choice there is!
@@flameshade7601 christ for real even like talking with someone from an extremely sexually repressive country who have all kinds of questions about sex, porn is banned, they haven't had sex because they're not married yet, they're like 28 or something, even then that gap in knowledge results in an extremely weird feeling power imbalance where it's like, ok you need to consult these reputable sources because i don't want to corrupt you lmao. like even then it feels like you're corrupting innocence and don't want to be responsible for it when it comes to adults when you actually have value for that state of being. you're worried that their state might penalize them for looking at material that might be banned in their country. bonerelli can't value that state of being ignorant or unaware of something because anything he perceives as a vulnerability or weakness he has contempt for. he's the guy that tells your kid that santa isn't real and uses it as the conduit to say they cant trust their parents, they can only trust him. like any groomer destiny doesn't care if the child gets in trouble with the parents, doesn't care about any of the potential or unforeseen consequences he just wants to find an excuse to not have to follow a rule everyone else follows and tries to insist he's not weird for wanting to violate the boundaries most adults understand not to cross while trying to manipulate people into thinking they ought to make an exception for him. and people like him are usually not satisfied with being able to get away with violating some boundaries, usually they just want to violate more and see what else they can get away with and how else they can manipulate people into allowing him to do it. like yes bonerelli, there's an entire history of trial and error and knowledge that predates your existence and there's reasons why the only strangers that get away with talking to children about sex have education requirements, clearance requirements, and are mandated to report any abuse that might be disclosed to them while educating a child about sex.
man I really hope this video covers the time he harassed that SA victim on twitter and his stream, realized he was mistaken the whole time, MELTED down about it, deleted everything, and pretended it never happened. that was truly despicable.
I’m always conflicted about watching these videos. What does it bring me? On one hand it makes me feel sick to the bone. On the other there’s a kind of morbid curiosity, of schadenfreude to this. And yet, it feels important. Important to show support how tiny it is, how performative it is, to someone doing the right thing exposing a horrible person. Perhaps the one good thing though I get out of it, is the educative value. Your patient, endlessly prudent but thorough and unflinching approach, is inspiring. The arguments and logical fallacies you’re able to point out from this are things I hope to integrate in my own toolbox.
It's educational since it's a good reminder for why you shouldn't watch this person, and also to pay respect to the people he has harmed so casually yet cruelly.
I agree. These videos really piss me off because I feel myself getting so angry that these type of people like destiny have a large following. It's horrible but I also agree it's important. WE need to call them out and remember their scams and tactics to be better prepared to handle others doing the same in the future.
Yeah honestly ive seen enough of destiny to know not to click on this video, bite size ammount of his shtick already makes me wanna vomit i cannot handle an hour and a half
@@CaptSoapy💯 this type of behavior is so common in people with power and people who are looking for power. I want normal people to be able to recognize core red flags and cut these people out. This also happens to be a fantastic skill for organizing. Gotta be safe; being safe together tends to be easier. What a time to be alive. I still feel sick watching this video. Having to pause a lot. 🙈
It's simple. I don't like destiny and for me it's carthatic when someone rips into him. I lean back, enjoy a cup of cocoa and bask in the knowledge that a bad person got a tiny bit of karma. (Though i have to say i already know of all this stuff, so it doesn't shock me anymore)
I mean, not to be an armchair psychologist here, but it's obvious right? The reason he reacts this way to women who have been assaulted in some way is because he does terrible stuff to women, and his coping mechanism is to blame them for not stopping him.
Exactly. It’s projection. I knew it when he was debating Aba about Drake texting a teen. He was twisting himself into a pretzel trying to defend the behavior, getting so angry, banning chat for asking good faith questions. I knew right then that Destiny was trying to rationalize past behavior.
Yep. It’s always the loudest critics who are soaked in irony. I mean this mf literally has (along with his dumb “orbiters”) hosted livestreams that rate if a girls sexual allegations are real or not, and actively try to shift blame onto the girl who was sexually assaulted or violated. This manlet incel freak is a horrible human being, and idk how anyone who isn’t mentally handicapped watches and agrees with anything he says.
@ honestly, out of all the arguments, he was kinda right here imo. I asked adults all kinds of questions when I was a kid, and it helped me a lot. Its so weird that people think they have to purposefully avoid talking to kids/teens, like what are they afraid of? Do you see yourself as a danger to them or something?
@Klayton_Nivel people who are avoiding kids usually are safe people. The people who love to talk sex with kids are the dangerous ones. Glad you were able to stay safe.
There's a huge percentage of men just like destiny. You learn that when you're a vulnerable teenage girl. With everything he's actually admitted to online I do believe he's done worse in private. I won't be shocked by anything that comes out about him now
Destiny saying that he was legitimately considering killing a kid and it’s the reason he bought a gun is quite concerning. Don’t know how I haven’t heard about this one before.
The kid that caused him lose his livelihood for a significant amount of time while he had a wife and a child to support and where negotiating with the kid's parents and authorities didn't help to stop the harassment?
I'm no Destiny stan but he has gone on record stating that this kid knew what he was doing and he had repeatedly had it out with the kid and the kid's father. He tried the police and other methods to try and deal with it but no one could or wanted to do anything. To them, he was just whining about someone effectively denying him internet access. The reality was that this was his source of income and this kid was endangering his livelihood. Whether Destiny actually was about to get tooled up and go after this kid only he knows (and I certainly don't condone such actions), but I can understand that he was at his whit's end and no one was apparently able or willing to help. And I think he uses that framing to sell how desperate he was to his audience.
This goes hard. Thanks Ryan. He shared some of the vids without consent to me years ago. Just found the logs today where we spoke about it once. He's such a pos edit: I DID send the log I found as proof to Mel and told the other chick about it, I am not a victim but I will help the victims in any way I can. I sent the proof to chud too, am looking for more but I did find enough to prove what I'm saying already. (had to get my old harddrive and now am sifting through 7 text files with the logs and over 200 gigs of memes to sort to find the actual videos) and IF my dox is leaked, yall will know why.........
I’m so sorry that happened to you ❤ hopefully there’s some healing to be found in everyone now seeing him for the horrible person he is. You didn’t deserve that violation. ❤
after the guy literally reading the tweet of the girl saying she got assaulted harder after saying no and Destiny responds by once again downplaying with the language of “she needs to stop having CASUAL SEX” is absolutely disgusting
Ok. You've swayed my opinion. I'm not a destiny super fan or anything but his content did get me out of the right wing pipeline and helped me deprogram from that shit. For that reason I had an appreciation but I can't deny this behavior. It's gross.
That’s crazy!!! This video actually taught me that I wasn’t being complacent or dumb when I froze up to being sexually harassed and assaulted in middle school, I was experiencing a common fear response.
We are not educated in this area. There’s a lot of misconceptions about this topic. It is actually the minority of victims who experience the fight response. A majority of victims of SA experience a freeze or fawn response. I’m sorry you had to carry around that pain before but I’m happy to hear that you understand that you didn’t do something wrong and that you were in fact experiencing a common response. I’m proud of you for surviving ❤
Being assaulted in that way is genuinely terrifying and there is no right way or normal way to react. The important thing is knowing it’s never your fault no matter what
If you guys really want to hurt Destiny even more, there's more shit that the public hasn't even payed attention to. Go look up how he goaded his depressed "best friend" at the time named Chris to commit sulclde. Steven had a friend named Chris who, in one of his darkest moments, reached out to Steven for emotional validation. You know what Steven's response was? He told him to jump off a bridge. He called him a coward and a "faker" if he didn't commit. Now that man is dead. Destiny has actual, literal blood on his hands, and it's so sad that Chris is the biggest victim who nobody acknowledges. If Destiny wants to be a "le epic sociopath", then everyone else should turn their backs on him. He is the last person on the planet who deserves ANY compassion or forgiveness.
I didn't know all those details. When I heard Destiny tell the story, he said that Chris confided his suicidality with Destiny and asked Destiny what he would do in Chris' shoes. Destiny says he said something to the effect of "I would do it if I had no hope it would get better." Destiny has publicly expressed regret "I probably regret that I said that" for how he responded. That story is a nightmare. I remember being shaken to my core, even hearing the lighter telling from Destiny himself. It makes his frequent use of insults along the lines of encouraging that sort of thing all the more disturbing. Those being his choice of insult would also lend a lot of credence to your telling of the tale. With no intention of trying to excuse his behavior, I wonder if this broke some fundamental parts of Destiny's emotional processing. If he starts feeling responsibility for the outcomes of his actions, he opens the floodgates of having to process that. There's very little footage of Destiny getting sad emotional. He's almost always one to resort to anger. When Mrgirl was writing the big hit piece on him, Destiny talked about how it was likely that jokes he has made about Chris and Reckful would be brought up. His voice is breaking and he's on the verge of tears, but just for a second or two. Again, nothing excuses what he's done, but I can't imagine the burden of an experience like that.
@@dahalofreeek I'm sorry, do you REALLY trust Steven's recounting of this story, knowing what we know now? Knowing that he regularly tells people to kill themselves? Look up the definition of crocodile tears.
@@dahalofreeekyeah people who've done terrible things have 2 choices, admit what they caused to themselves and work to be better and apologise sincerely. Or stick thier heads in the sand and go with the narrative that thier the victim somehow to avoid personal responsibility. I was trapped in that and the anger that builds up (mainly at yourself) is so much easier to direct it at other people than examine why you feel that way
@@dahalofreeek Nope, that's wrong. I don't know if you're a DGGer trying to spin the story to make Steven look better, or if you're just recounting it incorrectly, but that's not what happened. When Chris reached out to Steven, Steven said, verbatim, "fucklng go for it". He wasn't trying to give him any kind of advice or offer any compassion. He guided a man to his death.
By the way the woman he choked in "self-defense" was no other than Nathan's mother, who was cancer diagnosed. This is from back when Tiny was a carpet cleaner.
In my opinion, Destiny was definitely mocking people who acknowledge that stealthing is SA. More specifically, I think he minimizes SA any and every way he possibly can. No idea why he's got such a vested interest in minimizing SA and survivors 🙄
he said it himself that it is SA. he was mocking the person cause she got in the same situation very often. lets say someone gets robbed in the same street 5 times in a week. each time its a crime and is bad but after the second time, u need to find a different route. stealthing is always SA and it is bad, but when u are getting stealth this often u need to stop having casual sex.
@@Desdressreally? A woman is SA'd multiple times and the answer is she should stop having casual sex? Not that we should hold those men accountable (by whatever means) and make it publicly known that it's SA and you will be publicly shamed after being prosecuted for doing so.
Its actually genius to lable this as a Content Nuke, especially with Ethan's nuke being delayed, tons of people will probly click it, both fans and snarkers lol.
@@mattbattaglia4694 i think it derived from idubb’s content cop series where he exposed/held creators accountable for wide arrange of things- the nuke is an extreme version with the goal of laying out the entirety of someones online career for criticism, i BELIEVE coined or at least popularized by ethan klein of h3 when he dropped his keemstar nukes
Destiny saying that women shouldn't be allowed to have sex if they have a freeze response to being r*ped and stealthed, is like if you said that people shouldn't be allowed to handle money if they have a freeze response to being held at gun point and mugged. Also, he's wrong when he says that everyone survives. A lot of people have been murdered by their r*pist. (Idk if I need to censor that word or not)
@petrfedor1851 yeah and he didn't even gaf about the person who responded and said that her r*pist got angry and more violent when she kept saying no. So in his eyes, there's nothing a woman can do correctly, he will ALWAYS blame the victim.
I meeean... not to defend Destiny, I hate him as much as any sane person should, but Hasan reacted/supported this Content Nuke and spent hours commenting on it but still refuses to watch h3h3's Content Nuke about himself
@@danolive6950 That's Because ethan is crashing out and has been for the last four years. Ethan's been nothing But complaining about everyone else when he should be looking inside of his own home.
It's kinda interesting that this advice would directly apply (likely unintentionally) to every insufferable wokescold who enjoys hanging out in comment sections like these.
@isabellalarkin8859 I'm pretty sure there's a difference between making a rude/mean comment and bullying someone... although yeah, enough awful comments can make for harassment. There's something to be said if the content of the comments is like, valid and good faith criticism and all that or if it's just snide bullshit.
@@artistdudebro yeah that's true, I guess I was focusing more on the last part of your comment than the first part, although a lot of people here are making fallacious arguments and then trying to further morally grandstand when people correct them, implying that whatever bad thing they originally said is then being justified by the person pointing out their fallacy, thus making them a rapist, pedophile, morally bankrupt, hypocrite etc. I would consider that a type of bullying for sure, but at the very least it's dishonest and pathetic. I believe there is a heavy overlap between communities like this and Hasan viewers so it's not really surprising that people often behave like this here.
It's so weird to consider bigot in an appropriate context these days. That word has been thrown around so often to gaslight people that I no longer recognise it for its intended meaning.
@@unbearablysmug2437i commented on one other video, so idk wtf you’re talking about. and even if i was in 30 video comment sections, actually love seeing s** xual preds get taken down being a grape victim myself but I’m gonna block you now bc you seem like one too
@@unbearablysmug2437 or, perhaps, a generational Destiny hater - which, in that case, big respect. We need more generational haters of bad things and bad people.
I think the reason he likes women with BPD is because of how they make him feel. I am talking from experience here, a lot of people with BPD have very intense emotions and when we are with someone we are with them ALL the way. We are fully into them and we treat them like heroes. We are just very intense people and it can feel intoxicating to be with someone who wants you that much. But I think its weird for him being so unemotional and cold to even want to be with someone who's the exact opposite. So just my thought, either he likes them because he has low self esteem and having a woman that is so intensely into him makes him feel better, OR he likes being with someone he can emotionally bribe and bread crumb so he can feel powerful when women are begging him for attention and love while still getting that himself. I was with someone who was like that, he would be so cold and I wanted so badly to feel the love that I gave to him.
My best friend has BPD and I've been witness to pretty much all her relationships since we were 18 yo and from my outsider perspective/someone who doesn't have BPD: This is spot on. Destiny is disgusting.
His actions would indicate the latter. he wants to have power and control over people that he can abuse and use for his own pleasure, no consideration for their feelings or value or the long term consequences of his abuse. and when they stop complying with his abuse he tortures them by attempting to humiliating them. He’s not insecure, he’s fucking insane.
R*pe survivor here. Ive never heard anyone acknowledge the freeze response, and it was really meaningful and validating to hear. I went into a freeze response because I assumed he would FUCKING ASK FOR ME CONSENT, and when he didn't, and initiated "sex" anyway, I completely froze up, and ended up getting r*ped. I know i don't need an influencers permission for my experience to be valid, but goddamn is it still something. Thanks Mr beard.
if you need a 6 paragraph extremely specific hypothetical to explain why its totally normal for you to be doing whatever it is youre doing, reconsider.
I dont even onow what this is in reference to yet and yet even then this is one horrid argument. If something has nuance then it might be complicated to explain. Either the argument works logically or it doesnt, it being 6 paragraphs is unbelievably irrelevant and you would never accept this as an argument agaisnt yourself.
@@reio1951 in a spectacular 5d chessmaster move, you revealed that you didnt even pay attention to the literal first minute of the video where my man spends 6000 words writing fanfiction about the circumstances under which it would be okay for him to talk about sex with a 13 year old girl
It's less an argument of literally this many words means you're wrong, obviously hypotheticals can be helpful and depth of thought isn't bad. It's more commenting on the absurd obfuscation caused by making "debates" of relatively clear-cut cases. When something is clearly wrong through simple empathy and the like. "Does this suck to have happen to me? Yeah, so i probably shouldn't do it to others."
@@reio1951 How old are you? I can tell you're earnestly preening to try and appear intellectual, but you're not very good at it. And no, I'm, not going to bother 'engaging the substance of your REAAALLY HIGH BROW ABSTRACTIONS' until you answer the initial question. How old are you? It's not irrelevant whatsoever, or an ad-hominem. In fact, it speaks volumes as to why you operate in the way that you do.
@@reio1951 "You would never accept this as an argument against yourself" Is such an incredible argument on it's own I dunno why I've yet to hear it phrased like this before. Thanks, will remember this one
I'm so glad we're finally calling out predators. People like Drake, Diddy, and Destiny (what is with the D names?) have been openly horrible for years but people let it slide because of their fame and power, but now there's people like Kendrick and Katt Williams making it cool to go after predators and ruin their lives like they deserve
@@SuperNuclearUnicorn Hasan has been calling him Epsteiny and Diddystiny 😭 (previously, Divorcelli. There was a joke his Hasan videos were paying the child support). A rapper and youtuber named Scru Face Jean made a song (which is good) called Akadiddy (about the Akademik situation). I was going to say Akademiks was the exception but I remembered he goes by DJ Akademiks Also coincidentally K names.
@@SuperNuclearUnicorn LOL kendrick is pushing gangbangers onto the scene, but we should be okay with killers, thieves and abusers because they are "culture" ? Drake and him are weirdos, and we are not gonna stop at "files". everybody destroying their own communities should be held accountable.
@@burrybondz225 the whole point of kendrick is that those gangbangers were good kids that were misled and pressured into gang activities, and he hopes to erase the boundaries between gangs and unite them.
@@goderatorsmite2996 So you can still cheat in an open relationship if someone breaks a trust or agreement. In this case their agreement was she would know who his partners were. For example I have a friend who is poly. Her rule with her spouse is they inform and discuss the other people once it gets past a kissing stage so they can be safe and avoid jealousy. So no sleeping with someone until you all discuss and prepare. If her spouse didn't do this it would be cheating. Different people have different guidelines (just like any couple for example some couples would consider interacting with an OF account cheating and some would not).
Got introduced to Destiny when the lead singer of a band called Dance Gavin Dance was accused by multiple women of being sexually abusive and Destiny was one of the bigger voices covering the topic. Of course he defended him by talking about the concept of false allegations and whatnot and I remember being immediately turned off by his takes. It's funny how much sense his stance on that makes now.
@@Freerezervex while it is important for one to protect themselves from possibly truamatizing situations i think something that would definitely stop a freeze response from happening is if the men would stop assaulting them. You know?
The destiny fanboys trying to defend him in the comments and completely fumbling the bag is so funny to me. Like the amount of people self-reporting saying "I've only watched the first few minutes but this is completely out of context" no shit, watch the next 90 and maybe they will provide it for you Or the "the child was actually in the wrong since ddossing is very harmful". He wanted to kill a kid, whether that kid did something bad or not doesn't matter, he was planning to KILL A CHILD.
Simply gesturing at the length of the video doesn't mean anything. Context was not provided for a lot of those clips. What I don't understand is that people always have to misrepresent things instead of just drawing from the ocean of evidence against him. Why harm your own credibility for no reason?
@@seanc7990 I looked into this thing, he fails to mention he cut contact right away when he found out she was 15. It is disgusting behavior, but framing it as pedo? I dno, a 23 year old thinking a 15 year old who looks older is hot is pretty normal no? A pedo wouldn't find said person attractive because they look like an adult. The video leaves out a lot of important context. That said, I don't care. He deserves the hate for what he did to Pxie.
I mean, if we want to be entirely fair, there’s definitely footage that’s cut to change the meaning/remove necessary context. Like the bit with him being part of that troll group that saw an eight year old take their pants off on their stream. The clip of him saying that is cut the sentence right before destiny says this was what caused him to leave the stream and leave the group and never engage with them again. And, of course, Ryan says what he should have done is leave the stream. There’s a million endless things to criticize him for without purposefully misrepresenting his actions. It takes weight away from the very real, very serious things he’s guilty of.
the way he talks about assault and just women in general actually truly scares me. like he’s so crass and rude it makes me feel unsafe. thank you for this ryan, people like this really need to be addressed.
The fresh and fit guy defended him? Full right wing pivot incoming. He needs more fans with lower standards to keep him in the life he is accustomed to.
Wouldn't be that much of a pivot hes got plenty of right wing takes and just claims hes being "edgy" or "practical". Dude has accused Gazans of purposely trying to get themselves shot for a tiktok video hes fucking insane.
my ex who groomed me & assaulted me countless times was a huge fanboy of destiny and mr girl. he even spoke to mr girl on a livestream all cordially for the sake of “debate” (they literally just agreed). knowing the type of shit he’s said and done. i have been trying to regain access to an account which has evidence of his assaults for years now. the statute of limitations may prevent anything from being done, but fuck if i dont try…. my heart goes out to all of the victims of this disgusting fuck. stay strong and keep fighting. you are doing a wonderful thing by pointing out this man’s atrocious behaviours. if he doesnt face legal justice, we can, at the very least, hope enough people are aware of his actions. ryan thank you for your video! it was much needed and you did a great job with this & to all my fellow survivors of these kinds of things.. it wasnt your fault. you are stronger than you know, & if you have the strength to talk about it, never EVER be ashamed to.
Good luck getting your credentials back so you can take your ex to court. Statue of limitations for sex crimes is usually pretty high so you could still probably file a police report. P.S. mrgirl has done nothing wrong
@ziplockbaggies8707 thank you :). awhile back when i was much younger, i was told the limitation was about 3 years. in my state it seems to be 10, and i sincerely hope to at least get that creep on a list. however i staunchly disagree with the notion that mr girl did nothing wrong.. he admitted to raping a woman as well as calling 10 year olds “hot”.
One thing that maybe be worth exploring would be to see if you can get a lawyer or police detective or something similar to send the company a letter requesting the credentials and for what reason. Maybe they would send it to you or to them. If you've already tried this, sorry for the useless advice. Good luck regardless.
I’m sorry I know this is serious but I couldn’t stop giggling during the part where destiny tried to kill a kid. Like the thought of this man gathering his goons to fucking end a kids life over a little bit of trolling is so comically absurd
The kid, for absolutely no personal gain, had spent months hacking destiny's internet connection so that he couldn't make a living to support his wife and kid. I'm a minute in and this video is almost pure misrepresentation, out of context quotes where he's saying exactly the opposite of what's being construed. I've never watched videos from this channel, but at least I know what to expect from now on.
I clicked on your video out of sheer curiosity and subscribed after less than 10 minutes watching. Excellent video on a truly icky human and I look forward to checking out more of your channel!
I am an AMAB person who was SAed at 12. I tried to bury it so deep, just thinking someday the negitive ruminations and self-destructive ideations would just go away. Some 15 years later and I was still experiencing PTSD on a regular basis. I finally decided to open up about it and tell my story on social media without outing the perpetrators. Since then the emotinal turmoil has finally lessened, when I find myself accidentally looking back on that experience it is like I have put up a wall between what happened to me and myself in the now. The understanding that I got from friends, family, and community members is now what I think of when my mind wanders there again. It is very important to normalize talking about our trauma. It may not only help someone get through a hard time, but also help others who have found themselves in a similar situation.
100%. Put the shame where it belongs, which is on perpetrators, not victims. I am not ashamed of being a victim because I did nothing wrong. I will tell my story as much as I want. (Obviously, I don't trauma dump in inappropriate situations like a fun party though😂) I am not going to be ashamed of what happened to me against my consent. I am sending you love and support. Getting intensive treatment for my trauma has helped me tremendously. I hope that if you think that it may help you that you are able to access care. Sometimes the first (or first few) therapists aren't a good fit. It can get discouraging, but I promise it's worthwhile to keep looking until you find the one that you click with. I hope that your future is bright and joyous, you deserve it!❤
i'm so sorry that that happened to you and so glad to hear that you've received strong support from your close community. heart goes out you. I also hope for a bright and joyous future for you.
Not really. But I do think he will get away with it. Bc destiny is right in the sense that lefties virtue signal so hard they ignore truth and logic. The source that the person who's account got leaked was a 19 year old girl was the hacker. A person who kf will not supply the ip of, despite a subpeona, and who will not corroborate the information because they have the steeper crime of mass distributing revenge pornography. People should really make Pxie aware of this instead of the blind support or she may find herself countered. She already claimed that destiny was the one who leaked it on kf in her substack post on her intention to sue.
@@zacharyarledge6367why you bringing up “lefties virtue signal so hard they ignore facts and logic” when that’s what destiny was doing? You can find it in the video
It's wild to hear people say that Destiny is good at debating. He's almost never more knowledgable on a subject than the person he debates. He just speaks really fast. Which is why he often gets torn to shreds when engaging with non twitch streamers. Saying he can beat content creators in a debate is like saying he's the strongest kid at the polio olympics.
Incredible from start to finish. You can tell this was written with the utmost empathy for those involved. Thank you for talking about freezing, you made me feel seen.
I was floored by the rust clip of him saying a 30 year old sexting minors would not be considered grooming. Yeah, he’s in some kids dms. I’m calling it right now.
Destiny's a dude who would have serious consequences for his behavior if he was 1% less fortunate with his circumstances. Like he can debate bro all he wants about the age of consent for hours straight specifically because he's on a platform where he can virtually debate people dumber than him without getting socked in the face.
Not to be dramatic but no remotely healthy adult including those of us that don’t consider ourselves very healthy is interested in _fucking debating the age of consent._ Because we know what children are and want their humanity to be protected
I thought about separating the art from artist and hoping he can be a force for political good, but given Destiny's reactions to this from plain faced laughter, blaming or maligning victims, making himself out to be the real victim, banning any/all dissent or even simple corrections, showing no remorse and taking none of the results of his own actions seriously, I just can't anymore. I've been watching him since the bloodsports days so lord only knows how I've been so obtuse and stubborn enough to believe that he can be the nice person that Dan and Kyla keep saying he is. I've had my fill. The sight and sound of him is a constant reminder of just how manipulative and malicious he can be and I couldn't watch him again even if I wanted to.
@@thehumancondition5764 Ian was never malicious though. Edgy sure, but he never inteded to actually cause trouble apart from some of his content cops.
@@BlackJacked 100%. ian seems actually remorseful for the slurs he used to say and the edgy shit he was doing. destiny is barely even aware the shit he does is bad, because he's a terrible person.
@pedro-pascals-armpit Oh no, Steven is 100% aware. He just doesn't care. The guy is sick to the core, and I hope he just goes away indefinitely and someone else can take his place.
Bro, I didn't recognize this guy, but then you mentioned the CP artist and it all came back to me. I can't believe this dude still exists online. What tf are the rest of you weirdos watching him for?!? He should've been ignored into irelevancy then.
What is remarkable is that despite the video being well researched and an hour and half long, you only began to scratch the surface on examples of his unacceptable behavior.
The free square on nonbinary bingo is definitely "accused of faking being trans for clout". As a fellow nonbinary person, I *wish* it gave me clout instead of just giving me the joy of random coworkers grilling me about they/them pronouns not making sense grammatically lmao.
@@warrioremperor6320 Dude you're a destiny fan aren't you ? acting like a debate pervert he was referencing the horrible things Epstiny did to actual people but sure debate semantics chronically online redditor
Technically yes, but there hasn't been much done to prevent people from using intoxication as a defense. Just google it and you will find many, MANY, stories of people using intoxication as a defense.
People trying to claim the clips are "taken out of context" as if any context would paint these things in a better light and make him look less horrible. lmfao
What if the context was "I do not believe the following statement"? Because in at least three of the clips used in the opening, Destiny was stating beliefs exactly opposite as the clip makes it sound. I'm no longer a Destiny fan after what happened, but this is deeply irresponsible and hurts exactly the cause this video should be fighting for.
@@Axxilles That's fair, but honestly, litigating every time someone says the opposite of their beliefs with no on-screen disclaimer or tonal depiction that what you are saying is not your opinion is tedious.
@@joeiechristiansantana9641 Yeah, of course it is tedious. That is why bad faith documentarians will do it a lot of times so they can wear the dumb-brain people down and then they slurp up any conclusion offered.
I never watched Destiny because of his rampant transphobia, but I have had encounters with some of his acolytes and I must say they are the most aggressive and hateful fans I’ve ever encountered. Not surprised at all that he’s a creep. Guaranteed he’s gonna pivot to MAGA content to salvage his career. His fans will still worship him.
@user-lq1tp4yw3e "Please pat me on the head Steven, I've been such a good boy." Y'all spend so much time backing him up it's sad. Do something productive
Don't forget the reason such a terrible person like destiny was able to get away with it for so long is because the people around him, including his fans, are also terrible people.
Can we talk about how Destiny said everyone survives r-word around 30:00? I feel like a major part of r-word is that a lot of people are murdered after it?? Not everybody survives r-word, and it’s ignorant to say that, not to mention incredibly harmful and disrespectful?? What an idiot
it’s telling and oddly sad how he genuinely seems to believe that people that don’t feel safe in the bedroom don’t _deserve_ to and they just need to stop participating. who hurt you destiny
In the context of having casual sex, that makes sense. You should save working through that vulnerability with someone you really trust, ideally a long term partner.
@@SirLied Right, so it was actually good advice, if phrased in the most edgy and inflammatory way. Plus, it was embedded in the general sentiment "men are assholes, they'll always try to push your boundaries, and you have to be ready for it (or not put yourself in that situation)". He's talked about his experiences being bisexual and how he's noticed that men are way more aggressive and likely to push boundaries in the bedroom than women, so it's basically preparing women for that reality, rather than defending it (as it may have come across).
@@SirLied I think I’m reading this wrong, are you implying that in the scenario of casual sex that if one party feels unsafe they don’t deserve to feel unsafe because it’s casual sex???
Former Destiny fan here. I will say this is some of the most fair responses I've seen to a person's allegations, ever. As much as I liked the dude's political analysis, the new allegations, unless somehow proven completely false (which i don't think will happen), are all I need to see to dip out entirely. Especially considering his response to the situation, which is nothing short of morally bankrupt. Very little accountability, after how many times he would harp on people for their own lack of accountability, is just disgusting to see, and really makes me question his morals beforehand, or whether his political analysis was just an obsession with consistency stemming from the lack of his own. I had always been apprehensive of his edgy side, but as a former edge boy myself, I didn't think to much of it; but the sharing of nudes without any appearance of remorse, joking about the matter, and demonstrating a lack of understanding to those who would not want to associate with him afterwards, makes it quite clear this dude has issues that he is completely unwilling to address, and deserves what is coming now. I hope the victims are able to find some justice in the matter, they deserve it, but honestly who knows if that will happen given how our legal system works. Edit: clip at 52:05 is exactly what I'm talking about. Just gross.
@@VoltaVoid Your life will be all the better for this realisation. Congratulations on getting out of that toxic community and standing on your own feet.
Same, I’ve watched him for YEARS. Some of the nonsense he’s done were on the line for me but he’s officially crossed it. He started getting on my nerves a few weeks ago when his employee made a comment to an orbiter that he knows she wished she was raped. Steven’s response was “I don’t pay attention to everything said in every channel. Not my problem” even though it was his literal employee that said it
Why would the allegations being false even change your mind at this point? Clips like 26:23 should be enough to say that this guy’s immoral and immature to an insane degree.
It's beginning to dawn on me that the fundamental core underlying thing separating Destiny fans from the rest of the online left, or even online center-left, might be that Destiny fans all hate women to some extent.
Destiny is right wing. He is A) Pro murdering protestors. B) Anti palestinian emancipation C) Pro neoliberal status quouo economics & pro capitalism D) Pro US imperialism E) regurgitates US state department propaganda F) has promoted several conspiracy theorists G) Has promoted literal nazis lick Nick Fuentes and Lauren Southern. No serious "center-left" person would do any of these things. And you just discovered J) He hates and doesn't respect women and NOW came to the realization that he is somehow "different" than the rest of the online left?
“Everyone survives rape” Wtf does this mean? What was his point here? If you’re not killed after you’re raped, yes you’re a rape survivor. I’ve personally never been raped so I am not a rape survivor. I don’t think he even had a point, just wanted to argue and be angry about women not wanting to be raped
He was downplaying rape compared to being murdered or some kind of bodily injury or something in that vein. He was basically saying "you can be raped, survive, and get over it".
I believe what he was saying is if you have been raped, and your life seems to be over, you can get help to fix it, and believing that you can get help and that you can overcome it is very important to overcoming it
@@dillonferreira3529Im literally disabled from the trauma alone and Im not the only one: cptsd disabled me at more than 80%. Rape is one of the most traumatising experiences a human being could ever go through and it's tragedy, that we literally live in a culture that enabled it so much.
He also then uses as examples of things you can apparently survive as "murder", "beheading" and the real kicker "fatal car crash"... HE SPECIFIES FATAL. IF YOU SURVIVE IT'S NOT FATAL. We have yet to make enough process in the field of psychology to formulate a term that describes the depth of mental ineptitude.
Had to pause at the whole stealthing section because I was so angry hearing his pathetic response. Its obvious to me, as obvious to so many, that if a man is capable and willing to stealth rape someone, then hes likely capable of further uses of force for his own benefit. When you're under threat and vulnerable, you do whatever you think will get you out of the situation in the safest and quickest way. Ffs this is why we have to talk about these things so publicly, because even people who believe they've never done anything wrong in sex ever are so willing to reduce victims down to 'well you let it happen, you didnt speak up, so its your fault' - im so angry, i swear to god
its so baffling to me it hurts, i cannot believe that the defenders of his are so easily able to defend rape?? its just a cesspool of potential rapists
@@snoozebugsThe number of people who unironically think stealthing isn't rape and turn it back onto the victim instead of the perpetrator is so disheartening
It really goes to show how many men don't empathize with the power they have over a woman in the moment. They never picture themselves in that situation because to many of them they think they'll overpower and harm another man for doing that. Alot of women could not physically overpower/stop a man if they wanted to especially in a vulnerable position like that.
If someone straight up waltz over your preestablished boundaries what other are they willing to cross. Letting something bad happens can be better than escalate to terrible.
I'm not so sure this is true Like, if someone is shoplifting are they also willing to stick up the cashier? The point of shoplifting is secrecy, that's why if they get caught by another customer they run instead of trying to fight the customer or argue about it
@@cosmictraveler1146 kind of sad people like you are using actual tangible victims that you can hold him to account for his blatantly disgusting actions to try and peddle lies lmao.
@@Freerezervexdid you have a stroke while writing this? Not only is that gibberish, the guy you're responding to didn't even say anything provocative.
I would love to be representing her! Getting paid to dismantle that scumbag would be a reason to wake up in the morning. majority of the time it's two scumbags trying to dismantle each other and the firm profits somewhere along the way.
@@TheTH-camUser69this is a fact. Discovery goes both ways and women in these type of cases are frequently painted in very bad light. If this actually gets litigated it will be a shit show.
Man, this is a well made video laying out the malicious acts. I appreciate that you clearly took time with everything, and even gave things their full context. Shows how doing that is fully possible without needing to back away from an overall criticism of someone’s horrible actions. It makes it far harder for someone to dismiss the entire video
I wish he didn't use every single thing ever said about him to make 1 video. Most of the things are out of context and can be explained away. The only thing that is irredeemable is the Pxie stuff.
@@dillonferreira3529 and the fan chasing, and the incessant repeating of hot kids, the unconsented recordings and sharing, the downplaying of survivor's experiences... Consider pounding sand?
This is one of the better video essays I have seen. Most of the time, when I see a 'this creator is bad' video, it's riddled with big logical jumps, confusing conclusions, and bad framing of the supporting evidence. I think this video is especially effective because Ryan takes the time and care to caveat and contextualise all the supporting evidences. I'm sure Ryan had troves more Destiny clips where Destiny looks bad, but the selections used for the video are always relevant to the central thesis that Ryan is building towards. It's so clean. Other TH-camrs should watch and learn from Beard's example.
@@dahalofreeek I agree! The nuance and conditional charity goes a far longer way than just jumping to assumptions and throwing around pejoratives. If you’re just pejorative and depend on indulgent editing, then your points look like they’ve motivated by personal grudges and seem far less reliable (see Ethan’s “Content Nuke of Hasan”)
there's a lot more garbage he could've aired out from Destiny, like his harrassement campaign on Hasan, his harrassement of smaller streamers, his racism, his pro-police takes and generally being an asshole
As someone who has a freeze and fawn response to trauma, I had to stop the video at the r*pe apologia. I’m a trans woman who was SAd multiple times long before transition, but I didn’t have the knowledge or capacity to process it as such until many years later. My body was present, but my mind was not, giving in to what I was “supposed” to do to make it all go away sooner. This man is despicable. I had heard his name, but never knew who he was. I’m disgusted that people like him can become so popular while spouting off such abhorrent shit
For always being the smartest guy in the room, Destiny is remarkably dense about how r*pe accusation statisticly goes NOWHERE if you report it to the cops. Coming out public is the best way for the perpetrator to get any repurcussion for their actions.
CORRECTION: In the original version of this video, I accused Ana of stalking Destiny based on allegations that he had made against her. After talking to Ana myself, she showed me evidence of Destiny privately admitting to her that the stalking allegations were a lie.
I would like to apologize to Ana for promoting this allegation of stalking from Destiny as if it was fact. I think this just goes to show ANOTHER example of the type of manipulation that Destiny and his community have been pushing against his victims.
However, I take full responsibility for making this mistake. It is incredibly important to me that I get all of the facts right, and I am deeply sorry to Ana if me supporting this allegation from Destiny brought her any more emotional distress.
After talking with Ana, we are on good terms with each other and she said that she was perfectly happy with me leaving this pinned comment and editing the stalking allegation out of the video
Good on you.
Goood af on you
You called me princess!
Ah okay so that's where the two seconds went, perfectly understandable edit there glad u and her got a chance to talk.
Destiny sounds like a truly massive scumbag so not surprised he'd lie and slander with something like that. Can't trust a single thing from people like him it seems.
@ Ana is a total psychopath btw.
Thank you for making this video and compiling all of this in one place. Your point about being “old news” really struck me. For someone that works online, I am chronically out of the loop with internet drama. I really only ever knew destiny for clips where he buried Ben Shapiro or Candice Owens. Because of this I assumed he was a pretty good dude and I even went on his podcast back in the fall.
This has completely changed my perspective. Any one of the instances in this video are abhorrent on their own. Combined, they are absolutely reprehensible.
I will be contributing to the fundraisers you linked, in hopes that some of those wronged get the justice they deserve.
Thanks again for your hard work and from a personal place, for opening my eyes to this.
I love your videos and first saw you on that podcast. I've been a casual watcher of destiny for years and I didn't know most of this. I'm done watching him. For what it's worth, I'm glad you did that show or I'd never have seen your videos
Destiny drives me googledebunkers.
Real talk fuck him and his genocide denying ass
Thank you for being willing to hear me out and hold him accountable. I also just wanted to say I’m a big fan of your content. Keep up the good work :)
Thank you for being transparent about this! I can't lie, I was a bit disappointed when I first saw your collaboration with him before but I'm glad to know you only knew him on a surface level.
It's commendable to see other creators doing this. Pondering politics will not comment about anything regarding his "friend of the show"
He admitted to things on stream that no one could ever waterboard out of me
that's hopefully because you wouldn't do them
@pedro-pascals-armpit right, I meant If I would've done all those things
I thought this comment was a joke but omg I'd have to be near death to admit half these things 😭😭😭
@@pedro-pascals-armpit I think the joke is, that people admitted a bunch of horrible made up shit while being waterboarded.
Homelander couldn't get me to say that stuff
I’m involved with a case where a man shared a vid of me, w/o consent while I was unconscious, and it’s been ongoing for 3+ years. PLEASE don’t let the voices of these women be silenced. And thank you for standing up against a bully Beard ♥️
I'm sorry that you experienced and continue to experience this. I hope you find justice and peace soon.
Sadly I had a man share my nud3s online when I was only 13. I got groomed into it and I thought I did good. Now Its probably floating somewhere online. I hope people speak about these things more in the future, because it got normalized real fast and people victim blamed alot back in the day.
What do you specifically should be the punishment/result for such an offense?
@@csokissuti7343 I was 14 when it happened to me. He convinced me to send pics as "art reference". I feel so dumb, but I was naive, sheltered, and raised to be blindly trusting of my elders (Thanks, mom). So I did it and handed them over because it never occurred to me that he was lying, let alone that he'd do THAT.
@@JohnDorian-j7x castration
That stuff with him Tweeting at women who've been raped... holy. That is unhinged. What is wrong with this man.
Is Lauren Southern really a white nationalist? I know she's right-wing, but I didn't think she was racist or anything like that. Do you have proof for that, or is this a "casually tossing out accusations against right-wing people" kinda thing?
Bruh... Destiny threatening to leak the recording of Denims... doesn't that mean he just literally confessed to a crime? I guess he could say he was joking, but Denims accuses him of having an illegal recording, and he goes "Yeah maybe I should just leak that recording that I do have", so... seems like an admission of guilt to me. Police?
ALSO YOUR NAME IS RYAN BEARD. WHY DO YOU HAVE NO BEARD.
@@Skater901 they can't grow a beard.
@@Kai-u9n :(
my jaw hit the floor like 5 minutes in and every time i went to pick it up something else abhorrent came up in the video and it just dropped even lower. Most effective takedown vid ive ever seen.
Dudes a piece of work.
I never did a thorough deep dive on his lore but I now understand why people have said he’s uncancelable. No wonder he acts untouchable.
same experience here. what a fantastic takedown of such a huge POS.
This video makes me so glad I trusted my gut about Vaush and Destiny honestly, but it does shock me how Destiny still has an audience.
@@kennyl4699Probably similar reason to why Trump still has supporters
50:41 I think the phrase "destiny's 19-year-old egirl discord kitten" took years off of my life
Hearing everything Destiny said after not hearing his voice in years has probably wanting me to self deafen my ears permanently, holy fuck.
Thanks for the warning. I didn't need that phrase in my life
The clip of him a few years back saying “dating a 19 year old is as weird as dating a 15 year old” aged so bad hah 51:45
Destiny openly displaying his ignorance of "freezing" as a trauma response, suggests that HE is the one who isn't emotionally mature enough to be having sex, not the person he is trying to belittle.
The call is coming from inside the house with a lot of these things
THISSS. i could not fathom ever being in a sexual interaction without such basic knowledge of consent and stress responses. if you aren't mature and knowledgeable enough to recognise those kinds of non-verbal indications of discomfort, you shouldn't be having sex at all.
please do yourself a favor and never have sex. You're not ready for it.
@@rat-gang-me a psych major who’s been in therapy since I was 13 only learned this at 23 after a rape it’s not common knowledge wtf 😂 and knowing this knowledge doesn’t make you immediately emotionally mature or immature
Like the comment under you with 900+ likes is a thread of people barely finding out people freeze 😂
Serious questions: Why SHOULDN’T a victim of revenge porn pursue money for their suffering? Especially from the POS that ruined their life?
Ask yourself, in what other scenarios do we demand this degree of selflessness from victims? People understand financial compensation for all other types of damages, but sex crimes are the exception. Why?
I WISH after my r*pe I’d been able to afford some kind of comfort. Maybe fly to somewhere warm and sit by the ocean for a bit. Have one moment of peace and happiness in this shitty life. Instead, I worked two backbreaking jobs through my post-assault injuries and the following years of mental breakdown just to make rent. Couldn’t even afford more than a few therapy sessions. I did what these people want. I got justice. Cold comfort, let me tell you. That process was nearly as bad as the assault itself. My life is in ruins. I will never be the same and I have nothing.
Pxie, do not let anyone shame you out of asking for money. You’ll get nothing else.
Because giving people financial incentive to report crimes will lead to people reporting crimes that didnt happen. tip lines dont work for a reason too.
BINGO!
@@turkish8969 That's very expensive for both parties involved and in these types of crimes the odds are heavily in the defendant's favor as most people experiencing actual abuse already don't extensively document exactly what was done and when with a strong methodology.
So no, I don't think this is an actual concern. The bigger concern is public opinion, but even then usually the alleged abuser is the one with the platform, so again the cards are usually stacked against the accuser. I don't really follow internet drama much anymore, but from what I've seen nowadays people making false allegations are eventually exposed for doing so more often than not.
Exactly this is why the onus is on the content creator to not sleep around with everyone and their mother. They shouldn't be shocked when a clout hungry fan girl pokes a hole in the rubber or retracts their consent years later for an easy payday. He was just asking for it by being the town bicycle tbh.
@@turkish8969 This is hypothetical fear speaking. Rape is underreported. Even if what you fear was true it would take centuries of increases to even catch up to false reports of robbery.
The “he’s addressed this already” defense baffles me. Like sure, OJ addressed the whole “killing his wife” thing too but you know what tends to come up when you mention OJ?
Ah yes OJ Simpson's successful NFL career, and gloves for some reason
All the jokes Norm MacDonald made about OJ killing his wife?
He and Vaush have done this extensively as a defense, and I used to like Vaush and bought a lot of that stuff. He tells his fans this to keep them around and discourage they look into it because it's horrendous stuff. I assumed they HAD addressed a lot of these things properly and then later on found they were full of shit. It's more about protecting his standing with his own audience more than anything though and keeping them insulated from the truth.
only racists think oj was guilty
OJ should’ve just made an apology vid
Destiny implying that no woman has ever died because of rape is insane. There's countless stories of women being raped and murdered, what the fuck is he on about. What a horrible person.
@@penja1646there are terrible instances where sick perverts to that to smaller or younger people, causing the younger people to die of internal bleeding.
@@penja1646 "no one has ever died of a car accident, they died of blood loss/impact" That's your logic, idiot.
@@penja1646 not to defend Destiny, but you sorta had to add "DEFEND Destiny" in order for it to make sense. It's funny to try and lightly pierce an argument in order to divide the overall opinion.
In the rape of Nanking, women were literally raped to death
@@penja1646 that's a nice gotcha and all, but people have actually died from internal hemorrhaging and other injuries caused by the assault itself so you're still wrong. And that's without even touching on the fact that violence is so commonly part of rape that to separate the two is to erase a major motivation for it, or the fact that separating violence and rape contributes to people not taking assaults seriously.
Destiny saying stealthing is "Not scary enough" to evoke a freeze response is fucking insane. A man who has a lot of control over your body at the time choosing to completely disregard your consent is terrifying. If your consent matters so little about something as simple as a condom, its terrifying to imagine what would happen next if you try to intervene. Its terrifying to try to find the right words to say to deescalate the situation when every option is like a landmine that feels like it could make it worse.
Seriously!! It is terrifying. And, even if you didn’t freeze, you might reasonably CHOOSE not to say anything for fear that he wouldn’t listen and would get angry and take what he wants violently. Like, regardless of whether the woman is having a freeze response, it might be an idea to ignore it for your own safety.
I mean, I get a freeze response during jobs interviews. It’s not even a life-threatening situation. 😅
Guys like destiny always use that kind of tactic: "Me? No i could possibly SA someone. Just look at me, I'm just dainty little bluehaired femboy, I'm no threat to anyone."
It's so creepy and just a way to avoid taking accountability for their actions.
Not to mention the strength difference
The way he mocks it is so nauseating.
I just want to say thank you. I did not know other people froze when attacked and this makes me feel less insane. Thank you.
I am another person who freezes when attacked or in danger! Fun fact, once on the London tube some drunk Brits were fighting and one guy started screaming that the other guy had a gun. My friends practically had to drag me off the car because I just sat there frozen lol.
Some mental health professionals actually refer to it as the fight, flight, or freeze response now. Because your body can have very different reactions to stress. Freezing up as a response to trauma is very normal. I hope you find healing.
I had someone break into my house and I was frozen. It really sucked that my flight response didn't kick in
@@haleyselene and fawn, too. Fight, flight, freeze or fawn
I also default to the freeze response, you aren't alone there 💜
I feel like Myron from Fresh and Fit is the new keemstar dude like if he agrees with you in any conflict you are guaranteed wrong lmao
To be fair, Keemstar is still that lmao
To quote Kurtis Conner
“If Keemstar went on and said to get a healthy sleep and drink water, get a casket, because I’ll be dead soon.”
@@wumbojethe’s still around? I never watched a video from him, but I’ve not even seen other people talk about him in years (other than mentioning old stuff) so I thought he actually did retire!
@@jaybee4118 his accounts are still drama farming daily and I believe whoever runs the TH-cam channel still posts.
Except he's right about Pixie. She chose to behave like a whore and it bit her in the ass. Maybe not behave like a degenerate with a sexual predator? 😂
I'm glad you included him assaulting that girl, im shocked its not more known
He also groped Hasan like this, multiple times.
Which time? 💀
I’m honestly genuinely shocked he’s been that gross for so long.
Like I just didn’t like him because he’s annoying prick. Now I don’t like him because he’s an annoying prick, AND sexual predator
@@xmwbrah?
If she was so bothered by it why not launch a police complaint a bit weird if you had iq to think about it
I had a guy stealth me once, and I froze. I had told him multiple times to wear the condom, and when he didn’t, I think my body froze just to get it over with. The guy also whispered into my ear that he loved me despite us only meeting that day. As soon as the guy left, I curled into a ball on the floor and had one of the worst panic attacks of my life. It was an absolutely terrifying experience. I was so paranoid that I had gotten an STD. I felt so dirty. I felt so used. People like Destiny are why people are afraid to come forward and talk about their sexual assaults. If you don’t talk about it, then you’re told you’re stupid for not reporting it. If you do talk about it, you’re told that you’re a liar and probably wanted it.
Thank you for sharing your experience, I'm deeply sorry you experienced this. It's disgusting how widespread and normalised gaslighting women about what is/isn't consent has been for so, so long. Wish you all the best in the world.
@ It’s been about 3 years since that happened, and it’s helped me to talk to my friends and loved ones about their SA experiences because, unfortunately, it’s super common. I wish so badly that society was more open to SA victims and their stories because I believe that if we were more open, we could tackle the issue and help to decrease the rate of SA. And thank you so much!! I also wish you the best, and I hope that if someone that went through something similar sees my comment, they can understand that they’re not alone in their experience. SA and trauma in general can feel super isolating, and feeling alone in those moments is one of the worst feelings.
You were too young or too immature to have such relations in a responsible manner.
You are far too immature to be having sex. Just because you're of legal age doesn't mean you have the maturity or responsibility for casual sex. No one is excusing that guys actions, he should be arrested. But you shouldn't have been in that situation either. That's his point, and it's a pretty reasonable one.
I'm sorry that you grew up in a privileged and sheltered world where everyone owes it to you to not be terrible people and you bear no responsibility in your own life which lead to that happening, but that doesn't mean you have to tell every other young woman that she bears absolutely no responsibility when it comes to casual sex and even if she's not mature enough she should just jump into it if she wants and if a guy comes along and does some rapey stuff then womp womp unlucky! Nothing you can do about it you just pulled the short straw and now you gotta live with it better luck next time!
@@MrYellyYou shouldn't be glazing a pro-rapist cuckold.
Destiny: “God I used to be such a horrible person”
*3 years later*
Destiny: “God I used to be such a horrible person”
Lmaooo
"I still am, but I used to be too."
@@michaeljames6817Rice is great for when you’re really hungry and you want 2000 of something
New perceived societal standards, no new personality
😂😂😂
Holy shit… this was a READ for the AGES! 😮
jesus i know
you know it’s good when Paige is here
Omg hi paige 😍
@@lilliputianhitcher3808her content isn’t what it used to be unfortunately
@@lesauberginesdamn maybe it’s fcking tiring mentally, to cover stories that are about the most bottom of the barrel people in the world.
I don't think I've ever seen someone say such viscerally disgusting and hateful things about rape survivors until this dude. Good lord.
Wait till you find out about this guy called Hasan 💀
@@toastytoonsya Don't pivot too hard, you'll hurt yourself.
@@toastytoonsya its always these libs/leftists, they're no better than who they critic for clout and people keep defending them
The amazing atheist has said worse, believe it or not. He did take accountability and apologize tho.
@@toastytoonsya I think you are either mistakenly or deliberately falsifying when Hasan noted (quite rightly) that rape would not justify apartheid or genocide.
Meanwhile Destiny appears here doing rape apologia and molesting/sexually assaulting someone on camera and then notes that he will be apologizing (aka totally aware of how wrong that was).
I was a fan of Destiny for over two years and I can't believe that I let him talk me into rationalizing a lot of these actions in the video so that I could continue supporting him. I got banned from his sub for daring to speak against him and then I realized that Mr Girl was right about a lot of his criticisms and accusations. I'm fucking embarrassed that it took me this long but I'm glad you compiled a video laying it all out, because hearing about all the fucked up shit he's done without his voice in the back of my head explaining it all way, I'm sick to my stomach that I actually supported this monster.
aye at least you got there eventually man! That's awesome, proud of you bro :)
Good on ya 👏🏼 It's not easy to untangle that kind of contrarian thinking 😵💫
Wait, when did you get banned from his sub?
Nothing wrong with realizing you were believing hot bullshit. Learning and being better is a life long journey.
@@JeyPeyy just the other day
As a woman with clinically diagnosed CPTSD - I experience a freeze response as well and struggle with dissociating when I am triggered (esp in the bedroom). I have to be really mindful navigating casual and intimate relationships, but before my diagnosis I had no idea that this was what was happening to me. It resulted in situations where I was harmed and in one situation the police were involved and very helpful and lovely to me. I just want to say this for anyone who was affected by destinys comments about women having a freeze response, this is a biological thing especially when it comes to trauma and is entirely valid. It is a way to stay alive when you are uncertain of your safety. Sending love x
And abusers do target vulnerable people.
Thanks for this 💜
I deal with Depersonalization 24 / 7 where I am in the freeze response, I feel numb and out of body non stop ever since 2019 due to trauma.
As scary as dissociation is, it's perfectly healthy and safe. If you feel numb, zoned out, or detached from reality do not worry and try non to panic it's a response to if lets say a tiger or bear was eating you, so you can detach from your situation. Your body is trying to help you not hurt you.
Just dropping this here incase anyone else deals with dissociation to help ease the mind and to not feel abnormal or feel like you are loosing yourself. You are not and trauma can be healed
Jeez you sound like a lot of fun....yikes. If you ever meet anyone starting a sentence with "as a *** with ****" ....run.
@@NcK_146
omg, tySm🥹
i have been experiencing this for a couple of years now (after getting stuck in an extremely abusive living situation) & i was thinking it was some form of agoraphobia or something but THIS is it 🙌🏼
i can not wait to tell my doctor that i actually understand what he was saying now so i can continue making progress 😅 so yeah… ty for sharing 😇 💜💜💜 🤗
*Edit: congratulations on ur own progress too 🤦🏽♀️ i got so excited i almost forgot 😂 thx again 💕
Funny how Destiny calls a 16 year old DDOS boy "kid". But not the 15 year old girl he found hot.
15 year old WOMAN! Pls stop using destinyphobic language, thanks.
xd @@yungvarg2301
Well it's cause he is 36 year old boy.
@@yungvarg2301 15 is the age of consent in Germany and European countries snowflake
@@yungvarg2301 15 is literally the age of consent in Germany and other European countries snowflake
appreciate you calling out this behavior, this is vile
by making a bad faith dishonest video? instead of adressing the actual proven allegations he clip chimped 90% of the video about points that are not true in the slightest
sad cause there's actual shit to critise destiny on and hold him accountable on, but goes on a 90 minute rant of old out of context clips, this is a sad piece of content
well he admits this is going to be bad faith as he hates him, so at least he's honest about him being a bad faith commentator
@@KamilDeKerel If you can't point to any specifics here then you're just mindlessly parroting the same tired and, funnily enough, bad faith responses to criticism of Destiny.
@@KamilDeKerel🐔
@@landonstrong9686 Okay i see
SO lets look at the intro
a bunch of out of context clips that are literally one liners where you're led to believe things by shaping the intro to be him lying about the things he says in which:
1. Destiny constantly lies
2. attacks people relentlesly (by showing a tweet from 2015, one of the most edgiest periods in internet history)
3. him having secret recordings of people (which there's 0 proof of, even in this video)
4. him not talking about everything and only putting a narrative ('ill talk about everything")
5. him lying about not fucking lauren southern (what does this have anything to do with anything?)
6. Acting like destiny is being a hypocrite with NFT's while he has a very nuanced position (doesnt peddle it like a thing that will go up in value, he literally said that that shit would become worthless and people should only buy it cause of the clip it resembled (his nfts were linked to populair clips on his channel)) his position is that hyping up crypto scams to your audience and enjoying profits from rugs is unethical, he never did that with his nft's and was very explicit with his intent and what would happend
7. him saying the genocide stuff was him being hyperbole about lefties pushing the narrative onto him that supporting certain points of isreal just means he wants a genocide and palestians to leave, so he doubled down as to jokenly say well you just want to push this narrative on me i guess i just believe x and x then
8. The grooming thing is just factual, sexting minors doesnt mean grooming, its wrong in every sense and pdflic, but grooming is explicitly warming them up to be your wife by talking them into it when they're young and trying to influence them into marrying you, thats not sexting, I dont know the context apart from that, but there's literally only factual things being said, sexting can be with a grooming intent but grooming isnt just sexting
9. pulling the old rittenhouse mowing down dipsh*t protesters line, was about him not caring if people who are torching buildings at night getting shot by people trying to protect their property, which is a strong claim
10. him saying k y s, out of context, dont know every clip tho so no clue what it even was about, which is a problem on it own
thats literally from the first 3 minutes
if thats not a dishonest intro to a even more bad faith video, im not sure what is, im dont with this for today
@@numnut154 here i did the first 3 minutes which are 10 out of context clips to produce a narrative, look at my previous comment
I’ve literally never heard of this guy until today (I’m not really online I guess). But as a survivor, it is so painful to hear the sh*t this guy’s said-and I’m not even halfway through this video. My negative and traumatizing experiences have made it really really hard to revoke consent and fight the “freeze response,” even in situations that started off as “consensual.” This response only re-traumatizes survivors, even with partners they feel they trust. I wanted so badly to end it but froze in the face of it. My brain and body shut down and I became a spectator of the situation. It sucks and hearing people reinforce such awful opinions about women’s experiences makes the guilt and self-blame so much worse. Makes it harder and harder to cope or to come forward.
I'm deeply sorry you have experienced this, it was never your fault, we (who benefit deteriorated consent standards under patriarchy) collectively failed to listen, learn, and hold one another properly accountable. We've had decade after decade of outspoken folks (primarily women), I'd like to think the tide is turning, but it's far too little far too late. Wishing you all the more strength, and am grateful you shared your perspective here.
That brother HATES women and I cannot be convinced otherwise
Yea it’s so weird destiny and his ardent fan base seem to be so awakened on every topic except consent and sex and specifically women in a heterosexual sexual dynamic(I think his opinions on BLM was also a notable blemish as well).
I think it’s proof that hate can exist no matter how hard you try not to, maybe one day my former friend (just another left wing destiny fan) will see the error of his mysoginy and how blinded he is, but it seems in our cultural moment these individuals are giving into their rage and opting out of politics or even voting for the team who is weaponizing the rhetoric. It’s like the old ‘southern strategy’ has a modern equivalent, virgin single male. Virgin not being the status but that the rhetoric demonizes women so much that it will cause chronic sexlessness and unhealthy relationships, and single because, part of the rhetoric is to define yourself as hard to date. The propaganda is designed to come off smart and logical while ceding ever more ground to preconceptions which are hateful toward women, and so some people start with Shapiro some people start with destiny but they still end up enabling or supporting the policies that they would say they disagree with, because the group they hate the most is suffering, women who aren’t having sex with them.
"I cannot be convinced otherwise" is the decree of suicide bombers.
28 minutes in and I completely agree.
exactly, he is gay and homophobic so it causes him to irrationally hate women
@@Mustekalan Women especially, but also humanity in general. He's a sociopathic little nihilist overall. He constantly expresses glee in being destructive to other people overtly and encourages the same behaviour in his community. He should be treated like the creep he is
It's really gross how he tries to act like he's a victim of all these hot children.
lmaooo
He’s definitely also done weird shit vs minors, we know he shared sexual images of a 15 year old
This isn’t normal and how people sort of rationalize this in internet bubbles is disturbing; I don’t care if I had internet or real life renown - a minor fangirling in her immaturity and developing years and sending me nudes would get an instant delete ( frankly I doubt I would even be comfortable receiving any selfies from a child *for the risk it might contain the explicit* ) and certainly not saving and sharing which is distribution of child sexual content and is a crime in any civilized country.
@@KamilDeKerelThe proof is destiny's admissions? Like, wtf are you on about? Watch the video that you're commenting on. Destiny has provided all of the proof himself.
@@JohnVermassen-d9n saving means you are a pedo, but sharing means you must be stupid af lmaoo
@@KamilDeKerelhe literally opened discussed it saying “15 y o shared nudes her body was so hot” and we have the screencaps of his image share to chats
what the fuck are you talking about, google it you idiot
26:00 also, even if they aren't "frozen", they could also be scared that trying to assert their boundaries will make the man angry and potentially lead to a much more violent experience. so many women are told their whole lives "never fight back, it just makes them angrier" in regards to men, and that is a mantra constantly repeating in their minds. i know that's how it is for me at least.
Not talking about stealthing here, since that's a blatant crossing of boundaries but in general, if you cannot express your boundaries and say if you don't like something during sex, you should not be having sex until you learn to do that.
@heythankstommy ideally yea but generally people don't know they're going to have these reactions until it happens. they also don't tend to expect to end up in situations where their boundaries are being violated. like you wouldn't choose to be with someone if you knew you were going to be not okay with it, obviously. so it's pretty inane advice to just say "well don't do it then".
also, it really is not asking a lot to get verbal consent before doing anything with someone
Thats not what the conversations about. Its about people crossing explicit set boundaries @heythankstommy
@@heythankstommy This is literally victim blaming. “You didn’t feel safe enough to say no? Well maybe it’s your fault you got assaulted then.”
I hope you meant to have more nuance with your comment otherwise this is exactly how it reads.
@heythankstommy yeah... This is why rapist go for kids or young adults, because they know those people haven't learned to set boundaries properly yet so they can gaslight the f**** out of them. Stop blaming victims.
steven: lmaoooo i treated my ex wife like shit!!!
ex wife: steven treated me like shit
steven: i am being slandered & have never done anything maliciously in my whole life
It's very telling that he doesn't even call his friends "friends" but refers to them as orbiters. 😂
@@dru70292 he calls them orbiters when it's relevant that they are both friends and content creators.
In the very intro of this video he referred to multiple people as his friends? Lol
He calls them friends. I don’t think he coined the term, it was just adopted after people starting using it.
His "friend" Aba also refuses to call preach his friend, he's a psycho too, just not as sloppy.
@@Axxilles Yeah I love calling my supposed "Friends" orbiters which is a derogatory term for people trying to either ride on the coat tails of someone elses success or for men who constantly try to get a with a women streamer they watch. Orbiter has always been an insult and good natured ribbing usually doesnt look like calling your friends mooches constantly.
Shout out to Ryan-- literally was assaulted and had a fawn response not even two or three months prior to his take going viral. And I was struggling with so much shame and anguish at the time, I stopped going outside and interacting with people because it felt like they could see it on me. And when I saw that shit go viral and so many people defending Destiny. I just shrunk back from online spaces altogether because I felt like a Disgusting Creature and like I was genuinely too stupid to interact with other people.
I'm in a better place but after all this time it feels good to hear someone really breakdown and point out how fucked up that was of him to say. Thanks homie. ❤
Jesus Christ, I am so sorry. It's incredibly hard to get out of that place. Like, it low-key feels impossible while you're there.
Proud of you. I mean it.
Also, how long before Destiny flees to Israel? They have a big long history of accepting sex criminals.
Just want to reiterate your response to a traumatic situation is not your fault. A majority of victims experience, a freeze or fawn response. It is actually the minority of victims who have a fight response. There’s nothing wrong with you and it’s not something you did wrong. I’m really proud of you, and I’m really happy you are still here today.
Ok?
@ what’s the point of your comment, other than to be cruel? If you don’t care or see the point in the comment keep scrolling. I have seen multiple people commenting the same experience. It’s good when people dispel misconceptions about SA, because it helps survivors better contextualize their story. It’s good when survivors talk opening and share their experiences because it helps others realize they are not alone, and it helps combat shame surrounding the experience. It’s a good thing when survivors talk openly about their experiences.
Destiny really said, “I probably will give better sex advice to a minor than their parents would,” and then when asked how the parents would feel about a 30-something talking to their underage kid about sex he said, “I don’t know, that’s a conversation they should be having with their parents anyways.” He’s so shifty, dude can’t make a clear stance
That was genuinely where I started saying "no, stop, shut up" out loud at the screen because his mental gymnastics were about to give me a migraine.
Yes, of course there are a lot of reasons a minor wouldn't be comfortable talking to their parents about sex, but I am certain you can just find some free educational resources about sex made for minors online and send a link, instead of getting into explicit details WITH A CHILD. It's not hard to figure out what the right choice there is!
Rules for thee, but not for me
He really just wants to talk about sex with kids, that's all.
What advice can he even give an ADULT about dating? Does he have any record of a healthy marriage or dating life?
@@flameshade7601 christ for real even like talking with someone from an extremely sexually repressive country who have all kinds of questions about sex, porn is banned, they haven't had sex because they're not married yet, they're like 28 or something, even then that gap in knowledge results in an extremely weird feeling power imbalance where it's like, ok you need to consult these reputable sources because i don't want to corrupt you lmao. like even then it feels like you're corrupting innocence and don't want to be responsible for it when it comes to adults when you actually have value for that state of being. you're worried that their state might penalize them for looking at material that might be banned in their country. bonerelli can't value that state of being ignorant or unaware of something because anything he perceives as a vulnerability or weakness he has contempt for. he's the guy that tells your kid that santa isn't real and uses it as the conduit to say they cant trust their parents, they can only trust him. like any groomer destiny doesn't care if the child gets in trouble with the parents, doesn't care about any of the potential or unforeseen consequences he just wants to find an excuse to not have to follow a rule everyone else follows and tries to insist he's not weird for wanting to violate the boundaries most adults understand not to cross while trying to manipulate people into thinking they ought to make an exception for him. and people like him are usually not satisfied with being able to get away with violating some boundaries, usually they just want to violate more and see what else they can get away with and how else they can manipulate people into allowing him to do it. like yes bonerelli, there's an entire history of trial and error and knowledge that predates your existence and there's reasons why the only strangers that get away with talking to children about sex have education requirements, clearance requirements, and are mandated to report any abuse that might be disclosed to them while educating a child about sex.
man I really hope this video covers the time he harassed that SA victim on twitter and his stream, realized he was mistaken the whole time, MELTED down about it, deleted everything, and pretended it never happened. that was truly despicable.
YES RYAN YES THANK YOU YESSSS
“Watch your character, for it becomes your Destiny.”
The dude really ruined an entire English word 😭 can’t say that shit ever again
@@GuntWastelander I hope they don't make a Destiny 2... OH DEAR LORD!
@@GuntWastelander i always found it comical he named himself that because Destiny sounds like a stripper name to me 😂
Insert the gif of the guy writing fire on the paper
@@GuntWastelander nah all we gotta do is rename him and take that word back. He doesn't deserve it. Lets call him destideez nuts
I’m always conflicted about watching these videos. What does it bring me? On one hand it makes me feel sick to the bone. On the other there’s a kind of morbid curiosity, of schadenfreude to this.
And yet, it feels important. Important to show support how tiny it is, how performative it is, to someone doing the right thing exposing a horrible person.
Perhaps the one good thing though I get out of it, is the educative value. Your patient, endlessly prudent but thorough and unflinching approach, is inspiring. The arguments and logical fallacies you’re able to point out from this are things I hope to integrate in my own toolbox.
It's educational since it's a good reminder for why you shouldn't watch this person, and also to pay respect to the people he has harmed so casually yet cruelly.
I agree. These videos really piss me off because I feel myself getting so angry that these type of people like destiny have a large following. It's horrible but I also agree it's important. WE need to call them out and remember their scams and tactics to be better prepared to handle others doing the same in the future.
Yeah honestly ive seen enough of destiny to know not to click on this video, bite size ammount of his shtick already makes me wanna vomit i cannot handle an hour and a half
@@CaptSoapy💯 this type of behavior is so common in people with power and people who are looking for power. I want normal people to be able to recognize core red flags and cut these people out.
This also happens to be a fantastic skill for organizing. Gotta be safe; being safe together tends to be easier.
What a time to be alive.
I still feel sick watching this video. Having to pause a lot. 🙈
It's simple. I don't like destiny and for me it's carthatic when someone rips into him.
I lean back, enjoy a cup of cocoa and bask in the knowledge that a bad person got a tiny bit of karma.
(Though i have to say i already know of all this stuff, so it doesn't shock me anymore)
I mean, not to be an armchair psychologist here, but it's obvious right? The reason he reacts this way to women who have been assaulted in some way is because he does terrible stuff to women, and his coping mechanism is to blame them for not stopping him.
Exactly. It’s projection. I knew it when he was debating Aba about Drake texting a teen. He was twisting himself into a pretzel trying to defend the behavior, getting so angry, banning chat for asking good faith questions. I knew right then that Destiny was trying to rationalize past behavior.
Yep. It’s always the loudest critics who are soaked in irony. I mean this mf literally has (along with his dumb “orbiters”) hosted livestreams that rate if a girls sexual allegations are real or not, and actively try to shift blame onto the girl who was sexually assaulted or violated.
This manlet incel freak is a horrible human being, and idk how anyone who isn’t mentally handicapped watches and agrees with anything he says.
@ honestly, out of all the arguments, he was kinda right here imo.
I asked adults all kinds of questions when I was a kid, and it helped me a lot. Its so weird that people think they have to purposefully avoid talking to kids/teens, like what are they afraid of? Do you see yourself as a danger to them or something?
Didn't he talk about his mom being terrible once?
@Klayton_Nivel people who are avoiding kids usually are safe people. The people who love to talk sex with kids are the dangerous ones. Glad you were able to stay safe.
There's a huge percentage of men just like destiny. You learn that when you're a vulnerable teenage girl. With everything he's actually admitted to online I do believe he's done worse in private. I won't be shocked by anything that comes out about him now
Completely agree on the fact he has probably done worse in private. The guy is a POS.
Destiny saying that he was legitimately considering killing a kid and it’s the reason he bought a gun is quite concerning. Don’t know how I haven’t heard about this one before.
Probably should be reported to someone who cares about that kind of stuff
The kid that caused him lose his livelihood for a significant amount of time while he had a wife and a child to support and where negotiating with the kid's parents and authorities didn't help to stop the harassment?
@@sugartoothYTI think your copy paste didn’t make it, it just cuts off for me. Either way, it reads like you are actually defending what he said/did?
Are you...justifying a grown man buying a gun and devating on murdering someone?@@sugartoothYT
I'm no Destiny stan but he has gone on record stating that this kid knew what he was doing and he had repeatedly had it out with the kid and the kid's father. He tried the police and other methods to try and deal with it but no one could or wanted to do anything. To them, he was just whining about someone effectively denying him internet access. The reality was that this was his source of income and this kid was endangering his livelihood.
Whether Destiny actually was about to get tooled up and go after this kid only he knows (and I certainly don't condone such actions), but I can understand that he was at his whit's end and no one was apparently able or willing to help. And I think he uses that framing to sell how desperate he was to his audience.
This goes hard. Thanks Ryan. He shared some of the vids without consent to me years ago. Just found the logs today where we spoke about it once. He's such a pos
edit: I DID send the log I found as proof to Mel and told the other chick about it, I am not a victim but I will help the victims in any way I can. I sent the proof to chud too, am looking for more but I did find enough to prove what I'm saying already. (had to get my old harddrive and now am sifting through 7 text files with the logs and over 200 gigs of memes to sort to find the actual videos)
and IF my dox is leaked, yall will know why.........
I’m so sorry that happened to you ❤ hopefully there’s some healing to be found in everyone now seeing him for the horrible person he is. You didn’t deserve that violation. ❤
When you say shared some of the vids without consent to you, do you mean "to you" or "of you"? That little word makes a big difference
@@justinbrandt8415
P sure she means sent to her not of her, otherwise the phrasing would probably be more serious.
Post the logs or step aside
@@MS-wh7ecI think he shared videos without consent TO her, not OF her.
after the guy literally reading the tweet of the girl saying she got assaulted harder after saying no and Destiny responds by once again downplaying with the language of “she needs to stop having CASUAL SEX” is absolutely disgusting
@@JamyamIndustries WHILE LAUGHING LIKE A MANIAC!!!
coming from the guy who constantly has casual sex too lmao
@@JamyamIndustries Plus laughs about it maniacally.
@@802Garage yes wtf is with this laughs. i hate when people ask serious questions, gets serious answers, and laughs.
@rogue_carlisle6167 I think it's called being a self centered psychotic serial abuser. But that might just be my opinion.
Does DGG stand for “Destiny’s Grooming Gang”?
Ok. You've swayed my opinion. I'm not a destiny super fan or anything but his content did get me out of the right wing pipeline and helped me deprogram from that shit. For that reason I had an appreciation but I can't deny this behavior. It's gross.
There are a million times better creators who can do that out there
@gabegillespie8172 wish they'd do a lot more of it then.
@@gabegillespie8172Great, name a few of them for future commenters. Unless the only purpose of your comment was to demean someone admitting fault.
Glad you got out, doing so is a testament to your character.
@@imagineifcrazy D'Angelo Wallace is a favourite of mine, FD Signifier as well
That’s crazy!!! This video actually taught me that I wasn’t being complacent or dumb when I froze up to being sexually harassed and assaulted in middle school, I was experiencing a common fear response.
We are not educated in this area. There’s a lot of misconceptions about this topic. It is actually the minority of victims who experience the fight response. A majority of victims of SA experience a freeze or fawn response. I’m sorry you had to carry around that pain before but I’m happy to hear that you understand that you didn’t do something wrong and that you were in fact experiencing a common response. I’m proud of you for surviving ❤
@ thank you ❤️ that was a really kind thing to say
Being assaulted in that way is genuinely terrifying and there is no right way or normal way to react. The important thing is knowing it’s never your fault no matter what
If you guys really want to hurt Destiny even more, there's more shit that the public hasn't even payed attention to. Go look up how he goaded his depressed "best friend" at the time named Chris to commit sulclde. Steven had a friend named Chris who, in one of his darkest moments, reached out to Steven for emotional validation. You know what Steven's response was?
He told him to jump off a bridge. He called him a coward and a "faker" if he didn't commit. Now that man is dead. Destiny has actual, literal blood on his hands, and it's so sad that Chris is the biggest victim who nobody acknowledges.
If Destiny wants to be a "le epic sociopath", then everyone else should turn their backs on him. He is the last person on the planet who deserves ANY compassion or forgiveness.
I didn't know all those details. When I heard Destiny tell the story, he said that Chris confided his suicidality with Destiny and asked Destiny what he would do in Chris' shoes. Destiny says he said something to the effect of "I would do it if I had no hope it would get better." Destiny has publicly expressed regret "I probably regret that I said that" for how he responded.
That story is a nightmare. I remember being shaken to my core, even hearing the lighter telling from Destiny himself. It makes his frequent use of insults along the lines of encouraging that sort of thing all the more disturbing. Those being his choice of insult would also lend a lot of credence to your telling of the tale. With no intention of trying to excuse his behavior, I wonder if this broke some fundamental parts of Destiny's emotional processing. If he starts feeling responsibility for the outcomes of his actions, he opens the floodgates of having to process that.
There's very little footage of Destiny getting sad emotional. He's almost always one to resort to anger. When Mrgirl was writing the big hit piece on him, Destiny talked about how it was likely that jokes he has made about Chris and Reckful would be brought up. His voice is breaking and he's on the verge of tears, but just for a second or two. Again, nothing excuses what he's done, but I can't imagine the burden of an experience like that.
@@dahalofreeek I'm sorry, do you REALLY trust Steven's recounting of this story, knowing what we know now? Knowing that he regularly tells people to kill themselves? Look up the definition of crocodile tears.
@@dahalofreeekyeah people who've done terrible things have 2 choices, admit what they caused to themselves and work to be better and apologise sincerely. Or stick thier heads in the sand and go with the narrative that thier the victim somehow to avoid personal responsibility. I was trapped in that and the anger that builds up (mainly at yourself) is so much easier to direct it at other people than examine why you feel that way
But Jesus's christ I didn't goad someone I was close to into suicide idk how he sleeps at night
@@dahalofreeek Nope, that's wrong. I don't know if you're a DGGer trying to spin the story to make Steven look better, or if you're just recounting it incorrectly, but that's not what happened. When Chris reached out to Steven, Steven said, verbatim, "fucklng go for it". He wasn't trying to give him any kind of advice or offer any compassion. He guided a man to his death.
By the way the woman he choked in "self-defense" was no other than Nathan's mother, who was cancer diagnosed. This is from back when Tiny was a carpet cleaner.
wow the lore just gets even worse. this was kind of just the tip of the iceburg it seems.
In my opinion, Destiny was definitely mocking people who acknowledge that stealthing is SA. More specifically, I think he minimizes SA any and every way he possibly can. No idea why he's got such a vested interest in minimizing SA and survivors 🙄
He really is the poster child for the whole "I only deal with my issues through denial and projection" phenomenon.
he said it himself that it is SA. he was mocking the person cause she got in the same situation very often.
lets say someone gets robbed in the same street 5 times in a week. each time its a crime and is bad but after the second time, u need to find a different route. stealthing is always SA and it is bad, but when u are getting stealth this often u need to stop having casual sex.
@Desdress get out of here you dweeb ass apologist
@@Desdressreally? A woman is SA'd multiple times and the answer is she should stop having casual sex? Not that we should hold those men accountable (by whatever means) and make it publicly known that it's SA and you will be publicly shamed after being prosecuted for doing so.
@@Desdress oh thank god he's not minimizing SA, he's only victim blaming 😌
Its actually genius to lable this as a Content Nuke, especially with Ethan's nuke being delayed, tons of people will probly click it, both fans and snarkers lol.
I'm here to get the nuke fix I was expecting today.
what's a content nuke
@@mattbattaglia4694Basically the extensive reaming out of a content creator and what they do.
@@mattbattaglia4694 i think it derived from idubb’s content cop series where he exposed/held creators accountable for wide arrange of things- the nuke is an extreme version with the goal of laying out the entirety of someones online career for criticism, i BELIEVE coined or at least popularized by ethan klein of h3 when he dropped his keemstar nukes
U don't have to add the snark people, just some weirdos
Destiny saying that women shouldn't be allowed to have sex if they have a freeze response to being r*ped and stealthed, is like if you said that people shouldn't be allowed to handle money if they have a freeze response to being held at gun point and mugged.
Also, he's wrong when he says that everyone survives. A lot of people have been murdered by their r*pist.
(Idk if I need to censor that word or not)
Freezing in situation when freeze is option with the lowest chance of getting hurt more is so immature acording to Destiny
@petrfedor1851 yeah and he didn't even gaf about the person who responded and said that her r*pist got angry and more violent when she kept saying no. So in his eyes, there's nothing a woman can do correctly, he will ALWAYS blame the victim.
doing a risky action with someone that freezes puts other people at a liability, it's for their safety and the safety of others
@ogfemto "the safety of others" what others? The rapist? You're concerned about the safety of the rapist?
@Tera_totally possibility of a misunderstanding, should be obvious but common sense isn't quite common.
The fact destiny hasnt responed to this but responed and suppoert ethan video on hasan is why no one takes destiny seriously except his fans
He has pending litigation, he will be speaking on it once that runs its course
I meeean... not to defend Destiny, I hate him as much as any sane person should, but Hasan reacted/supported this Content Nuke and spent hours commenting on it but still refuses to watch h3h3's Content Nuke about himself
@@danolive6950 That's
Because ethan is crashing out and has been for the last four years. Ethan's been nothing But complaining about everyone else when he should be looking inside of his own home.
If someone bullies you, I think you are probably justified in being biased against them. Especially if they're a dirty hypocrite, bigot, or both.
It's kinda interesting that this advice would directly apply (likely unintentionally) to every insufferable wokescold who enjoys hanging out in comment sections like these.
@isabellalarkin8859 I'm pretty sure there's a difference between making a rude/mean comment and bullying someone... although yeah, enough awful comments can make for harassment.
There's something to be said if the content of the comments is like, valid and good faith criticism and all that or if it's just snide bullshit.
@@artistdudebro yeah that's true, I guess I was focusing more on the last part of your comment than the first part, although a lot of people here are making fallacious arguments and then trying to further morally grandstand when people correct them, implying that whatever bad thing they originally said is then being justified by the person pointing out their fallacy, thus making them a rapist, pedophile, morally bankrupt, hypocrite etc. I would consider that a type of bullying for sure, but at the very least it's dishonest and pathetic. I believe there is a heavy overlap between communities like this and Hasan viewers so it's not really surprising that people often behave like this here.
@@isabellalarkin8859 wokescold? go outside pls I'm begging you
It's so weird to consider bigot in an appropriate context these days. That word has been thrown around so often to gaslight people that I no longer recognise it for its intended meaning.
the quotes he says at the beginning are INSANE considering what he was actually doing. you wasted no time in getting straight to the point.
It really shows he has no opinions or ideals that he will not drop when it becomes convenient for him.
I see you in every comment section regarding Destiny, I think you might be his number 1 fan
@@unbearablysmug2437i commented on one other video, so idk wtf you’re talking about. and even if i was in 30 video comment sections, actually love seeing s** xual preds get taken down being a grape victim myself but I’m gonna block you now bc you seem like one too
@@unbearablysmug2437 or, perhaps, a generational Destiny hater - which, in that case, big respect. We need more generational haters of bad things and bad people.
@@MysteriousSignal hey man they're in love or something and too ashamed to admit it
I think the reason he likes women with BPD is because of how they make him feel. I am talking from experience here, a lot of people with BPD have very intense emotions and when we are with someone we are with them ALL the way. We are fully into them and we treat them like heroes. We are just very intense people and it can feel intoxicating to be with someone who wants you that much. But I think its weird for him being so unemotional and cold to even want to be with someone who's the exact opposite. So just my thought, either he likes them because he has low self esteem and having a woman that is so intensely into him makes him feel better, OR he likes being with someone he can emotionally bribe and bread crumb so he can feel powerful when women are begging him for attention and love while still getting that himself. I was with someone who was like that, he would be so cold and I wanted so badly to feel the love that I gave to him.
Yep, them having BPD gives him more control over them precisely because of the symptoms of their disorder.
My best friend has BPD and I've been witness to pretty much all her relationships since we were 18 yo and from my outsider perspective/someone who doesn't have BPD: This is spot on.
Destiny is disgusting.
That and he can always call them crazy when he's done with abusing them
That sounds unbearable, I'm sorry you had to go through that. Hope you're doing better now.
His actions would indicate the latter. he wants to have power and control over people that he can abuse and use for his own pleasure, no consideration for their feelings or value or the long term consequences of his abuse. and when they stop complying with his abuse he tortures them by attempting to humiliating them. He’s not insecure, he’s fucking insane.
R*pe survivor here. Ive never heard anyone acknowledge the freeze response, and it was really meaningful and validating to hear. I went into a freeze response because I assumed he would FUCKING ASK FOR ME CONSENT, and when he didn't, and initiated "sex" anyway, I completely froze up, and ended up getting r*ped.
I know i don't need an influencers permission for my experience to be valid, but goddamn is it still something. Thanks Mr beard.
if trump can pardon jan 6 traitors, then i can pardon destiny
if you need a 6 paragraph extremely specific hypothetical to explain why its totally normal for you to be doing whatever it is youre doing, reconsider.
I dont even onow what this is in reference to yet and yet even then this is one horrid argument.
If something has nuance then it might be complicated to explain. Either the argument works logically or it doesnt, it being 6 paragraphs is unbelievably irrelevant and you would never accept this as an argument agaisnt yourself.
@@reio1951 in a spectacular 5d chessmaster move, you revealed that you didnt even pay attention to the literal first minute of the video where my man spends 6000 words writing fanfiction about the circumstances under which it would be okay for him to talk about sex with a 13 year old girl
It's less an argument of literally this many words means you're wrong, obviously hypotheticals can be helpful and depth of thought isn't bad. It's more commenting on the absurd obfuscation caused by making "debates" of relatively clear-cut cases. When something is clearly wrong through simple empathy and the like. "Does this suck to have happen to me? Yeah, so i probably shouldn't do it to others."
@@reio1951 How old are you? I can tell you're earnestly preening to try and appear intellectual, but you're not very good at it. And no, I'm, not going to bother 'engaging the substance of your REAAALLY HIGH BROW ABSTRACTIONS' until you answer the initial question. How old are you? It's not irrelevant whatsoever, or an ad-hominem. In fact, it speaks volumes as to why you operate in the way that you do.
@@reio1951 "You would never accept this as an argument against yourself" Is such an incredible argument on it's own I dunno why I've yet to hear it phrased like this before. Thanks, will remember this one
"These predators move in flocks"
I'm so glad we're finally calling out predators. People like Drake, Diddy, and Destiny (what is with the D names?) have been openly horrible for years but people let it slide because of their fame and power, but now there's people like Kendrick and Katt Williams making it cool to go after predators and ruin their lives like they deserve
@@SuperNuclearUnicorn Hasan has been calling him Epsteiny and Diddystiny 😭 (previously, Divorcelli. There was a joke his Hasan videos were paying the child support).
A rapper and youtuber named Scru Face Jean made a song (which is good) called Akadiddy (about the Akademik situation). I was going to say Akademiks was the exception but I remembered he goes by DJ Akademiks
Also coincidentally K names.
@@SuperNuclearUnicornand them actually having die-hard defenders is amazing. Way to say you ignore or enable such behaviors
@@SuperNuclearUnicorn LOL kendrick is pushing gangbangers onto the scene, but we should be okay with killers, thieves and abusers because they are "culture" ? Drake and him are weirdos, and we are not gonna stop at "files". everybody destroying their own communities should be held accountable.
@@burrybondz225 the whole point of kendrick is that those gangbangers were good kids that were misled and pressured into gang activities, and he hopes to erase the boundaries between gangs and unite them.
how is cheating on ur wife with a white supremacist somehow not in the top 5 worst things this guy has done wtf
Omg because its a lie , destiny has done real bad stuff , we dont need to lie to dunk on nick
@@MWMTEE.... He fucked lauren southern and on pixies substack it shows Destiny admitting he fucked nick
cheating? they were in an open relationship lol
@@goderatorsmite2996 So you can still cheat in an open relationship if someone breaks a trust or agreement. In this case their agreement was she would know who his partners were. For example I have a friend who is poly. Her rule with her spouse is they inform and discuss the other people once it gets past a kissing stage so they can be safe and avoid jealousy. So no sleeping with someone until you all discuss and prepare. If her spouse didn't do this it would be cheating. Different people have different guidelines (just like any couple for example some couples would consider interacting with an OF account cheating and some would not).
@@MWMTEE Not a lie given that nick said hes also a victim in epstinys s3x crimes.
Got introduced to Destiny when the lead singer of a band called Dance Gavin Dance was accused by multiple women of being sexually abusive and Destiny was one of the bigger voices covering the topic. Of course he defended him by talking about the concept of false allegations and whatnot and I remember being immediately turned off by his takes. It's funny how much sense his stance on that makes now.
Destiny will say "Trust the science" until the science says women have freeze responses.
? Do you think a women who is especially prone to freeze responses should be engaging in hook up culture without fail safes?
@@Freerezervex Keep question marks at the end of questions, not at the start.
@Freerezervex Fail safes for what? Sexual assault?
Yes, women should be free to live their lives while violence against them continues.
@@Freerezervex while it is important for one to protect themselves from possibly truamatizing situations i think something that would definitely stop a freeze response from happening is if the men would stop assaulting them. You know?
@@FreerezervexI find it crazy how many times I've seen your name in these comments. Why is it so important for you to defend sex pests?
The destiny fanboys trying to defend him in the comments and completely fumbling the bag is so funny to me.
Like the amount of people self-reporting saying "I've only watched the first few minutes but this is completely out of context" no shit, watch the next 90 and maybe they will provide it for you
Or the "the child was actually in the wrong since ddossing is very harmful". He wanted to kill a kid, whether that kid did something bad or not doesn't matter, he was planning to KILL A CHILD.
Simply gesturing at the length of the video doesn't mean anything. Context was not provided for a lot of those clips. What I don't understand is that people always have to misrepresent things instead of just drawing from the ocean of evidence against him. Why harm your own credibility for no reason?
@-47- it was a hook, to get people interested in watching the rest of the video. every single one of his actual points have context and clips.
@@-47- what are you talking about? Most of the clips have context with destiny himself giving the context about the 15 year old who he chatted with
@@seanc7990 I looked into this thing, he fails to mention he cut contact right away when he found out she was 15. It is disgusting behavior, but framing it as pedo? I dno, a 23 year old thinking a 15 year old who looks older is hot is pretty normal no? A pedo wouldn't find said person attractive because they look like an adult.
The video leaves out a lot of important context.
That said, I don't care. He deserves the hate for what he did to Pxie.
I mean, if we want to be entirely fair, there’s definitely footage that’s cut to change the meaning/remove necessary context. Like the bit with him being part of that troll group that saw an eight year old take their pants off on their stream. The clip of him saying that is cut the sentence right before destiny says this was what caused him to leave the stream and leave the group and never engage with them again. And, of course, Ryan says what he should have done is leave the stream.
There’s a million endless things to criticize him for without purposefully misrepresenting his actions. It takes weight away from the very real, very serious things he’s guilty of.
the way he talks about assault and just women in general actually truly scares me. like he’s so crass and rude it makes me feel unsafe. thank you for this ryan, people like this really need to be addressed.
I've been following you for a while, Ryan. You inspire me. Thank you for making this.
The fresh and fit guy defended him? Full right wing pivot incoming. He needs more fans with lower standards to keep him in the life he is accustomed to.
Nah he'll be like Tim pool.
@@gypsylee333 so full right wing pivot then?
I don't think he'll turn right wing
@@gypsylee333 So you mean a grifting right winger?
Wouldn't be that much of a pivot hes got plenty of right wing takes and just claims hes being "edgy" or "practical". Dude has accused Gazans of purposely trying to get themselves shot for a tiktok video hes fucking insane.
my ex who groomed me & assaulted me countless times was a huge fanboy of destiny and mr girl. he even spoke to mr girl on a livestream all cordially for the sake of “debate” (they literally just agreed). knowing the type of shit he’s said and done. i have been trying to regain access to an account which has evidence of his assaults for years now. the statute of limitations may prevent anything from being done, but fuck if i dont try…. my heart goes out to all of the victims of this disgusting fuck.
stay strong and keep fighting. you are doing a wonderful thing by pointing out this man’s atrocious behaviours. if he doesnt face legal justice, we can, at the very least, hope enough people are aware of his actions.
ryan thank you for your video! it was much needed and you did a great job with this
& to all my fellow survivors of these kinds of things.. it wasnt your fault. you are stronger than you know, & if you have the strength to talk about it, never EVER be ashamed to.
Good luck getting your credentials back so you can take your ex to court. Statue of limitations for sex crimes is usually pretty high so you could still probably file a police report.
P.S. mrgirl has done nothing wrong
@ziplockbaggies8707 thank you :). awhile back when i was much younger, i was told the limitation was about 3 years. in my state it seems to be 10, and i sincerely hope to at least get that creep on a list.
however i staunchly disagree with the notion that mr girl did nothing wrong.. he admitted to raping a woman as well as calling 10 year olds “hot”.
if he was a fan of mrgirl i dont think he was a fan of destiny lil bro
One thing that maybe be worth exploring would be to see if you can get a lawyer or police detective or something similar to send the company a letter requesting the credentials and for what reason. Maybe they would send it to you or to them.
If you've already tried this, sorry for the useless advice. Good luck regardless.
@@necessary_this is a weird/silly thing to call out pipe down
I’m sorry I know this is serious but I couldn’t stop giggling during the part where destiny tried to kill a kid. Like the thought of this man gathering his goons to fucking end a kids life over a little bit of trolling is so comically absurd
Destroying someone's entire livelihood when they have a wife and baby to feed is a little more than trolling I'd say but aight I guess lol
@@firulice7000 the cult has been signaled
you don't get to kill children when they ddos you, sorry
The kid, for absolutely no personal gain, had spent months hacking destiny's internet connection so that he couldn't make a living to support his wife and kid.
I'm a minute in and this video is almost pure misrepresentation, out of context quotes where he's saying exactly the opposite of what's being construed.
I've never watched videos from this channel, but at least I know what to expect from now on.
its even embarrassing when destiny is a grown ass man. disgusting
@Axxilles that was a child doing a childish action. a grown man tried to end their life. your view?
"yeah, they are equal"
I clicked on your video out of sheer curiosity and subscribed after less than 10 minutes watching. Excellent video on a truly icky human and I look forward to checking out more of your channel!
I am an AMAB person who was SAed at 12. I tried to bury it so deep, just thinking someday the negitive ruminations and self-destructive ideations would just go away. Some 15 years later and I was still experiencing PTSD on a regular basis. I finally decided to open up about it and tell my story on social media without outing the perpetrators. Since then the emotinal turmoil has finally lessened, when I find myself accidentally looking back on that experience it is like I have put up a wall between what happened to me and myself in the now. The understanding that I got from friends, family, and community members is now what I think of when my mind wanders there again. It is very important to normalize talking about our trauma. It may not only help someone get through a hard time, but also help others who have found themselves in a similar situation.
100%. Put the shame where it belongs, which is on perpetrators, not victims. I am not ashamed of being a victim because I did nothing wrong. I will tell my story as much as I want. (Obviously, I don't trauma dump in inappropriate situations like a fun party though😂) I am not going to be ashamed of what happened to me against my consent. I am sending you love and support. Getting intensive treatment for my trauma has helped me tremendously. I hope that if you think that it may help you that you are able to access care. Sometimes the first (or first few) therapists aren't a good fit. It can get discouraging, but I promise it's worthwhile to keep looking until you find the one that you click with. I hope that your future is bright and joyous, you deserve it!❤
i'm so sorry that that happened to you and so glad to hear that you've received strong support from your close community. heart goes out you. I also hope for a bright and joyous future for you.
I’m really glad you got support. I had a similar experience after sharing about my assault with my community.
there’s still a huge amount of destiny fanboys defending him for this too 🤢
Not really. But I do think he will get away with it. Bc destiny is right in the sense that lefties virtue signal so hard they ignore truth and logic. The source that the person who's account got leaked was a 19 year old girl was the hacker. A person who kf will not supply the ip of, despite a subpeona, and who will not corroborate the information because they have the steeper crime of mass distributing revenge pornography. People should really make Pxie aware of this instead of the blind support or she may find herself countered. She already claimed that destiny was the one who leaked it on kf in her substack post on her intention to sue.
Key word: boys
@@zacharyarledge6367dickrider detected.
@@zacharyarledge6367why you bringing up “lefties virtue signal so hard they ignore facts and logic” when that’s what destiny was doing? You can find it in the video
and some are in this very comment section..
It's wild to hear people say that Destiny is good at debating. He's almost never more knowledgable on a subject than the person he debates. He just speaks really fast. Which is why he often gets torn to shreds when engaging with non twitch streamers. Saying he can beat content creators in a debate is like saying he's the strongest kid at the polio olympics.
Who do you believe "tore destiny to shreds"?
@@BillMayonaise oh idk how about Finklestein
@@buckduckitthat was so satisfying seeing him get called a moron over and over again
@@buckduckit The guy who didn't know the definition of genocide? You call that a win? Lol
@@BillMayonaise You mean Destiny doesn't? Because thats true.
Incredible from start to finish. You can tell this was written with the utmost empathy for those involved. Thank you for talking about freezing, you made me feel seen.
I was floored by the rust clip of him saying a 30 year old sexting minors would not be considered grooming.
Yeah, he’s in some kids dms.
I’m calling it right now.
That´s hairspliting that would make sense only as reading thing absurdly literaly for comedic purposes. And I don´t thing that´s the case here.
Just wondering, do you think a 18 year old sexting a 19 year old is grooming? why or why not?
@@Freerezervex bro, what's wrong with you?
@@Freerezervexbut destiny isnt 19. He’s like 40.
Its not tho, its just definitionaly a different thing that's just as bad
Destiny's a dude who would have serious consequences for his behavior if he was 1% less fortunate with his circumstances. Like he can debate bro all he wants about the age of consent for hours straight specifically because he's on a platform where he can virtually debate people dumber than him without getting socked in the face.
He was in a perfect position. Not a big enough celebrity for normies to care, big enough to use barely legal women with no career and mental issues.
I can see that. Honestly, that might describe a lot of online influencer/microcelebrity types who get caught doing something horrible.
@@mpv7575 nah destiny community is different. They saw this man 10 yrs ago grope a women chest without consent and called it based.
Not to be dramatic but no remotely healthy adult including those of us that don’t consider ourselves very healthy is interested in _fucking debating the age of consent._ Because we know what children are and want their humanity to be protected
The things he freely admits to are so insane, it’s scary to think about what he’s keeping a secret.
God, you're right... You couldn't waterboard this shit outta me if I was a depraved horrific person like that, yet he's out here going on and on
I thought about separating the art from artist and hoping he can be a force for political good, but given Destiny's reactions to this from plain faced laughter, blaming or maligning victims, making himself out to be the real victim, banning any/all dissent or even simple corrections, showing no remorse and taking none of the results of his own actions seriously, I just can't anymore. I've been watching him since the bloodsports days so lord only knows how I've been so obtuse and stubborn enough to believe that he can be the nice person that Dan and Kyla keep saying he is. I've had my fill. The sight and sound of him is a constant reminder of just how manipulative and malicious he can be and I couldn't watch him again even if I wanted to.
Destiny is one of the few online people I’m genuinely super embarrassed I used to like.
it’s ok it takes character to reevaluate and change your mind like that. respect for growing out of it
Idubbbz is that for me. Still like his new stuff but I used to like his old content way too much.
@@thehumancondition5764 Ian was never malicious though. Edgy sure, but he never inteded to actually cause trouble apart from some of his content cops.
@@BlackJacked 100%. ian seems actually remorseful for the slurs he used to say and the edgy shit he was doing. destiny is barely even aware the shit he does is bad, because he's a terrible person.
@pedro-pascals-armpit Oh no, Steven is 100% aware. He just doesn't care. The guy is sick to the core, and I hope he just goes away indefinitely and someone else can take his place.
Bro, I didn't recognize this guy, but then you mentioned the CP artist and it all came back to me. I can't believe this dude still exists online. What tf are the rest of you weirdos watching him for?!? He should've been ignored into irelevancy then.
Unfortunately online "communities" love predators.
As we've seen with the Paul brothers.
What is remarkable is that despite the video being well researched and an hour and half long, you only began to scratch the surface on examples of his unacceptable behavior.
The damage he's done to not only his community but literally anyone even a fraction close to them is insane.
The free square on nonbinary bingo is definitely "accused of faking being trans for clout".
As a fellow nonbinary person, I *wish* it gave me clout instead of just giving me the joy of random coworkers grilling me about they/them pronouns not making sense grammatically lmao.
Except it does make sense lol
@blueberrymuffin_144 I'm literally genderflux and demisexual. I don't think you understood me
@@blueberrymuffin_144 I mean it makes sense... grammatically. You misunderstood. Singular use of "they" has been used as far back as the 14th century.
@@Vincisomething Ohhhhhh. Sorry I thought you were one of the Destiny fans 😔 have a nice day
Use of singular 'they' actually predates the use of singular 'you;' fun fact!
This guy is honestly just a monster; true embodiment of a Sociopath
This is what i wanted to say but they won't let me lol
Are you a psychologist how did you come with this diagnosis also it’s anti social spectrum learn the facts ok
He's a manipulative narcissist sociopath that deserves to be out under
@@warrioremperor6320 Dude you're a destiny fan aren't you ? acting like a debate pervert he was referencing the horrible things Epstiny did to actual people but sure debate semantics chronically online redditor
In Canada you're actually not allowed to use inhebriation as a defence for sexual assault in a court of law anymore
I believe the landmark case was a man who raped an elderly woman in a wheelchair and then tried argued in court that he was super drunk.
@@DemxnTheyThem"well that wheelchair lady couldve said something! Cant have casual walks outside if you're not ready to say no"
Technically yes, but there hasn't been much done to prevent people from using intoxication as a defense. Just google it and you will find many, MANY, stories of people using intoxication as a defense.
Didn’t know that and I’m Canadian. Good, it’s such a dumb defense
When you have to explain the difference between the philias, you have already lost
People trying to claim the clips are "taken out of context" as if any context would paint these things in a better light and make him look less horrible. lmfao
What if the context was "I do not believe the following statement"?
Because in at least three of the clips used in the opening, Destiny was stating beliefs exactly opposite as the clip makes it sound.
I'm no longer a Destiny fan after what happened, but this is deeply irresponsible and hurts exactly the cause this video should be fighting for.
@@Axxilles That's fair, but honestly, litigating every time someone says the opposite of their beliefs with no on-screen disclaimer or tonal depiction that what you are saying is not your opinion is tedious.
@@joeiechristiansantana9641 Yeah, of course it is tedious. That is why bad faith documentarians will do it a lot of times so they can wear the dumb-brain people down and then they slurp up any conclusion offered.
@ That is on Beard for intentionally leaving out context to give the absolute worst possible impression in this video.
@@Axxilles Name the clips then genius.
I never watched Destiny because of his rampant transphobia, but I have had encounters with some of his acolytes and I must say they are the most aggressive and hateful fans I’ve ever encountered. Not surprised at all that he’s a creep. Guaranteed he’s gonna pivot to MAGA content to salvage his career. His fans will still worship him.
rampant transphobia?
Leftoids been saying he's gonna do a "why i left the left" arc for years now lol
@@FilzupBilburpno chance
>i've never watched destiny
>rampant transphobia
lol
@user-lq1tp4yw3e "Please pat me on the head Steven, I've been such a good boy."
Y'all spend so much time backing him up it's sad. Do something productive
Don't forget the reason such a terrible person like destiny was able to get away with it for so long is because the people around him, including his fans, are also terrible people.
Predators move in flocks
@@et_puisI don’t think that’s true. And all these predators sit alone in their streaming rooms.
@@noelgrassy4278 it is absolutely true, and flocking together online still counts as flocking.
@@noelgrassy4278 are you deliberately missing the point, or do you actually think a flock is only a physical gathering of people?
@Nizzzlerhe’s making a joke taking a dig at these losers
Can we talk about how Destiny said everyone survives r-word around 30:00? I feel like a major part of r-word is that a lot of people are murdered after it?? Not everybody survives r-word, and it’s ignorant to say that, not to mention incredibly harmful and disrespectful?? What an idiot
it’s telling and oddly sad how he genuinely seems to believe that people that don’t feel safe in the bedroom don’t _deserve_ to and they just need to stop participating. who hurt you destiny
More like who did he hurt? And from the video it seems, many
I dont think it's a consequence of him being hurt. I think he was just born a sociopath.
In the context of having casual sex, that makes sense. You should save working through that vulnerability with someone you really trust, ideally a long term partner.
@@SirLied Right, so it was actually good advice, if phrased in the most edgy and inflammatory way. Plus, it was embedded in the general sentiment "men are assholes, they'll always try to push your boundaries, and you have to be ready for it (or not put yourself in that situation)". He's talked about his experiences being bisexual and how he's noticed that men are way more aggressive and likely to push boundaries in the bedroom than women, so it's basically preparing women for that reality, rather than defending it (as it may have come across).
@@SirLied I think I’m reading this wrong, are you implying that in the scenario of casual sex that if one party feels unsafe they don’t deserve to feel unsafe because it’s casual sex???
Former Destiny fan here. I will say this is some of the most fair responses I've seen to a person's allegations, ever. As much as I liked the dude's political analysis, the new allegations, unless somehow proven completely false (which i don't think will happen), are all I need to see to dip out entirely. Especially considering his response to the situation, which is nothing short of morally bankrupt. Very little accountability, after how many times he would harp on people for their own lack of accountability, is just disgusting to see, and really makes me question his morals beforehand, or whether his political analysis was just an obsession with consistency stemming from the lack of his own. I had always been apprehensive of his edgy side, but as a former edge boy myself, I didn't think to much of it; but the sharing of nudes without any appearance of remorse, joking about the matter, and demonstrating a lack of understanding to those who would not want to associate with him afterwards, makes it quite clear this dude has issues that he is completely unwilling to address, and deserves what is coming now. I hope the victims are able to find some justice in the matter, they deserve it, but honestly who knows if that will happen given how our legal system works.
Edit: clip at 52:05 is exactly what I'm talking about. Just gross.
@@VoltaVoid Your life will be all the better for this realisation. Congratulations on getting out of that toxic community and standing on your own feet.
Same, I’ve watched him for YEARS. Some of the nonsense he’s done were on the line for me but he’s officially crossed it. He started getting on my nerves a few weeks ago when his employee made a comment to an orbiter that he knows she wished she was raped. Steven’s response was “I don’t pay attention to everything said in every channel. Not my problem” even though it was his literal employee that said it
Why would the allegations being false even change your mind at this point? Clips like 26:23 should be enough to say that this guy’s immoral and immature to an insane degree.
Welcome to the right side of history, brother.
You liked the guy who openly supports war crimes??
It's beginning to dawn on me that the fundamental core underlying thing separating Destiny fans from the rest of the online left, or even online center-left, might be that Destiny fans all hate women to some extent.
Destiny is right wing. He is A) Pro murdering protestors. B) Anti palestinian emancipation C) Pro neoliberal status quouo economics & pro capitalism D) Pro US imperialism E) regurgitates US state department propaganda F) has promoted several conspiracy theorists G) Has promoted literal nazis lick Nick Fuentes and Lauren Southern.
No serious "center-left" person would do any of these things. And you just discovered J) He hates and doesn't respect women and NOW came to the realization that he is somehow "different" than the rest of the online left?
@@collaide wow took everything out of context, good job! most dishonest message ive seen in my entire life
@@KamilDeKerel nice rebuttal loser
This is really great & much needed Ryan, thank you
“Everyone survives rape”
Wtf does this mean?
What was his point here?
If you’re not killed after you’re raped, yes you’re a rape survivor.
I’ve personally never been raped so I am not a rape survivor.
I don’t think he even had a point, just wanted to argue and be angry about women not wanting to be raped
He was downplaying rape compared to being murdered or some kind of bodily injury or something in that vein. He was basically saying "you can be raped, survive, and get over it".
I believe what he was saying is if you have been raped, and your life seems to be over, you can get help to fix it, and believing that you can get help and that you can overcome it is very important to overcoming it
@@dillonferreira3529Im literally disabled from the trauma alone and Im not the only one: cptsd disabled me at more than 80%. Rape is one of the most traumatising experiences a human being could ever go through and it's tragedy, that we literally live in a culture that enabled it so much.
There's also the psychological damage of suffering something like that, which drives many victims to take their lives.
He also then uses as examples of things you can apparently survive as "murder", "beheading" and the real kicker "fatal car crash"... HE SPECIFIES FATAL. IF YOU SURVIVE IT'S NOT FATAL.
We have yet to make enough process in the field of psychology to formulate a term that describes the depth of mental ineptitude.
Had to pause at the whole stealthing section because I was so angry hearing his pathetic response. Its obvious to me, as obvious to so many, that if a man is capable and willing to stealth rape someone, then hes likely capable of further uses of force for his own benefit. When you're under threat and vulnerable, you do whatever you think will get you out of the situation in the safest and quickest way. Ffs this is why we have to talk about these things so publicly, because even people who believe they've never done anything wrong in sex ever are so willing to reduce victims down to 'well you let it happen, you didnt speak up, so its your fault' - im so angry, i swear to god
its so baffling to me it hurts, i cannot believe that the defenders of his are so easily able to defend rape?? its just a cesspool of potential rapists
@@snoozebugsThe number of people who unironically think stealthing isn't rape and turn it back onto the victim instead of the perpetrator is so disheartening
It really goes to show how many men don't empathize with the power they have over a woman in the moment. They never picture themselves in that situation because to many of them they think they'll overpower and harm another man for doing that. Alot of women could not physically overpower/stop a man if they wanted to especially in a vulnerable position like that.
If someone straight up waltz over your preestablished boundaries what other are they willing to cross. Letting something bad happens can be better than escalate to terrible.
I'm not so sure this is true
Like, if someone is shoplifting are they also willing to stick up the cashier? The point of shoplifting is secrecy, that's why if they get caught by another customer they run instead of trying to fight the customer or argue about it
I’ve never liked destiny from the slurs and stuff but holy shit I had no idea how evil he is
Same didn’t even know half of this heinous stuff happened
@@cosmictraveler1146 kind of sad people like you are using actual tangible victims that you can hold him to account for his blatantly disgusting actions to try and peddle lies lmao.
@@Freerezervexdid you have a stroke while writing this? Not only is that gibberish, the guy you're responding to didn't even say anything provocative.
Thank you for calling out Destiny!! Commenting to boost this in the algorithm!
Pixie's lawyer is gonna have a field day dismantling Destiny's character with these clips in court😂😂😂
I hope so
I would love to be representing her! Getting paid to dismantle that scumbag would be a reason to wake up in the morning.
majority of the time it's two scumbags trying to dismantle each other and the firm profits somewhere along the way.
@@AdamOwenBrowning literally only lawyers win in these preceedings
@@TheTH-camUser69this is a fact. Discovery goes both ways and women in these type of cases are frequently painted in very bad light. If this actually gets litigated it will be a shit show.
@@jenniferlwinkler omg both @ssholes get to be destroyed, what a glorious day XD
May this be the last I ever learn something new about Steven Bonaducci Bonnell 🙏
mister bonelli
(the second)
Mr Bordelli
Mr morelli
bonerelli: a fantastic moron.
Man, this is a well made video laying out the malicious acts. I appreciate that you clearly took time with everything, and even gave things their full context. Shows how doing that is fully possible without needing to back away from an overall criticism of someone’s horrible actions. It makes it far harder for someone to dismiss the entire video
I wish he didn't use every single thing ever said about him to make 1 video. Most of the things are out of context and can be explained away. The only thing that is irredeemable is the Pxie stuff.
@@dillonferreira3529 and the fan chasing, and the incessant repeating of hot kids, the unconsented recordings and sharing, the downplaying of survivor's experiences... Consider pounding sand?
@ What is the repeating of hot kids and downplaying survivor experience?
Here from H3 Family! Heard your video is great! Excited to see your editing style!
H3, the Destiny subreddit fiend who sourced his "nuke" from that sub filled with doctored content and outright lies
This is one of the better video essays I have seen. Most of the time, when I see a 'this creator is bad' video, it's riddled with big logical jumps, confusing conclusions, and bad framing of the supporting evidence. I think this video is especially effective because Ryan takes the time and care to caveat and contextualise all the supporting evidences. I'm sure Ryan had troves more Destiny clips where Destiny looks bad, but the selections used for the video are always relevant to the central thesis that Ryan is building towards. It's so clean. Other TH-camrs should watch and learn from Beard's example.
@@dahalofreeek I agree! The nuance and conditional charity goes a far longer way than just jumping to assumptions and throwing around pejoratives. If you’re just pejorative and depend on indulgent editing, then your points look like they’ve motivated by personal grudges and seem far less reliable (see Ethan’s “Content Nuke of Hasan”)
there's a lot more garbage he could've aired out from Destiny, like his harrassement campaign on Hasan, his harrassement of smaller streamers, his racism, his pro-police takes and generally being an asshole
What a banger. Glad you hit on his weaponization of mental illness and pattern of crazy-making ex partners.
As someone who has a freeze and fawn response to trauma, I had to stop the video at the r*pe apologia. I’m a trans woman who was SAd multiple times long before transition, but I didn’t have the knowledge or capacity to process it as such until many years later. My body was present, but my mind was not, giving in to what I was “supposed” to do to make it all go away sooner. This man is despicable. I had heard his name, but never knew who he was. I’m disgusted that people like him can become so popular while spouting off such abhorrent shit
For always being the smartest guy in the room, Destiny is remarkably dense about how r*pe accusation statisticly goes NOWHERE if you report it to the cops. Coming out public is the best way for the perpetrator to get any repurcussion for their actions.
It's not being dense if your intent is to diminish what they're saying- that's the goal.
hes talking like almost half of cops arent domestic abusers themselves 😭
@@TheGIGACapitalistyep. It's always on purpose. Then they're like, whaaa? How me suppose to know?? And a bunch of people make excuses for them
Or how the cops themselves retraumatise victims during the interview.
I'll advise if one's in that situation to file a police report first, AND THEN make public accusations, for credibility purposes.