A COGIC Elder address the Pentecostal Church and Homosexuality.

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  • When you decide you want to preach like Paul or use harsh terms like Jesus did to the Pharisees, you must also prepare to stand by your every word and don't retreat. Just because you CAN, don't mean you SHOULD!!

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  • @BishopL.J.Rivers-D.Min-ThD
    @BishopL.J.Rivers-D.Min-ThD 9 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Holiness Must Be Preached !!!!!!!!!
    Preachers Must Live Holy And Properly Represent The God They Preach About!!!! Instead of prosperity, blessings, and materialism, repentance from sin must be preached! Hell must be preached! Judgment must be preached! The lake of fire must be preached! Eternal life must be preached! The signs of the times must be preached! Holiness must be preached! Instead of the watered down trash they are preaching today! God is not playing games with people. The church in America is about to have a rude awakening and God doesn't care if you are offended by it because He is Holy and He will always punish sin!!! The bible says the soul that sins, it shall die!!!!

    • @yawilliams63
      @yawilliams63 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Amen Apostle it's holiness or hell that's it

    • @shoeladyt
      @shoeladyt 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yolanda williams That's my churches theme Holiness or Hell it's tight but it's right
      Trying to get my "Well Done"

    • @ANTCHELL10
      @ANTCHELL10 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      AMEN

    • @csneaky
      @csneaky 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Calling ppl sissies and wanting them to bleed out the butt is not preaching the word of God it's called bashing making fun of, might work back in ur day cause u was force to go to church but growing the kingdom now for new Christians is not gonna work today

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Apostle L.J. Rivers My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @rainyhollowell2280
    @rainyhollowell2280 8 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Elder, the reason we should be terribly concerned about homosexuality is because once a sin becomes legalized, people start accepting it as no longer sin. People still see lying as sin. They still see cheating as sin. They still see stealing as sin. Why? These sins have not been legalized. There is a difference. Maybe the reason people don't speak against gluttony is because it is legal to eat as much as you want to. Let's not let this happen with homosexuality like we did abortions and people shacking up. Most people don't see these sins as sin any more. It happens. It's how Satan works.

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Rainy Hollowell My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

    • @rainyhollowell2280
      @rainyhollowell2280 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're very convincing. Thanks!

    • @kevinboone2178
      @kevinboone2178 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I disagree, Mr. Hollowell, on several fronts. 1. To God, and Caesar, theirs. The U.S. isn't a theocracy. Our Constitution claims "all men are created equal." Either it's true, or not. There are NO good reasons why homosexual human beings should be treated differently than heterosexuals --- and every endeavor open to YOU PEOPLE ought be open to THOSE PEOPLE. They can do everything thing you can do, and they can do it better, maybe; and I'm being somewhat facetious.
      2. My religious tradition doesn't believe in devils. Human beings must take responsibility for their actions. For transgressions adjudicated in court, one can't state, "The devil made me do it." Satan's a side-show. And if you see him, tell him to "go to hell."
      3. In constitutional democracies, It's the duty of families and religious institutions and some others, using moral suasion, to teach and preach against adultery, hate, pedophilia, promiscuity, gluttony, lying and cheating, for instance. Why so many have abdicated this to the "wind" is sad.The common good and families benefit when we do the right thing. Let's not wait for others to do what we must.
      4. Civil unions and/or marriages in most western democracies, including some in Africa, are available to all citizens regardless sexuality. And religious bodies have every right to marry whom they wish. Good. You blame "Satan." But it isn't a question of blame. Many in modernity understand that two adults in a loving, committed relationship, one sanctioned in law, benefits those involved (and society), in many ways, particularly ones who have children, and a good number of homosexuals do. This should be encouraged, not rejected. Most heterosexuals won't get married and gays want to. It's ironic to state the least.
      5. Homosexuality and heterosexuality embodies one's mind, body & soul, something biology informs. We don't get to dispute this, we do get to be sadly mistaken, if not ignorant. Ask someone why they are a particular sexuality and, invariably, they state, "I just am." Excepting those with their eyes closed ---- some using holy books and their heterosexual sensibilities as proxies----- it's clear sexual-orientation is a state-of-being. It's why the mental health professions and religion have failed to reverse patient's same-sex attractions. The best --- or worse, depending on your point of view --- one can do is help folk SUBLIMATE (s), for whatever reason/s, their desires, which isn't the same as erasing them. And many of these folks are talked into sham marriages despite those same sex feelings being ever present in the overwhelming majority of cases.
      To the extent environment plays a part, it's to specific attractions/fetishes ---- to big butts, small breasts, underwear or feet, for example. Social and/or family dynamics have no demonstrable sway in the formation of homosexuality. Every notion offered thus far has failed scrutiny. Offer one, and if I have the time I'll respond. Who knows...maybe you've discovered something.
      So what are we to do with the homosexuals in our midst? Prayer and psychiatry hasn't done the job. Is celibacy the answer --- it doesn't work for the overwhelming majority of healthy folks? Excepting platitudes and sloganeering, what can one do? Should we do anything? Jesus never mentions them. He said everything good we ought to know. And evidently it's not good enough for most of us. Sin and judgement occupies many a "christian" mind. And "hypocrite" defines too many. It's sad. Sometimes I think there are more brothers studying astrophysics than folks who'll get to Heaven.

    • @rainyhollowell2280
      @rainyhollowell2280 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Forgive me for not reading beyond, "The Constitution says all men are created equal...," Mr. Boone. The Constitution is not the Word of God, nor will it ever be. It can be amended to suit man. The Word of God, on the other hand, is the same yesterday, today, and forevermore. God does not change His word to please man. His Word says pride, homosexaulity, lying, stealing, fornification, adultery, etc. are sins. it also says those who don't repent of these sins will end up in hell. I believe God's Word. Do you?

    • @rainyhollowell2280
      @rainyhollowell2280 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      God hates sin. He has nothing against ANYONE doing anything as long as what they'll doing is not sin. Anyone (heterosexual or homosexaul) can work, eat, sleep, sing, walk talk, play, etc. without sinning, but a man having sex with another man is not just sin. It's an abomination... a sin that God absolutely detests. The Constitution can try to make homosexauality good if it wants to, but a holy, righteous God never will.

  • @thomasyoung5680
    @thomasyoung5680 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This one of the most powerful teachings I have heard in a looooooong time just a practical Bible teaching

  • @klg4life826
    @klg4life826 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you Brother Elder for your transparency..And you are so right when you say if you are not a believer you will not understand this..

  • @thomasyoung5680
    @thomasyoung5680 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a great message I have been in holiness 42 years now and I try to stay
    Current and this is 100 % truth 100% truth thank you sir

  • @NatalieBrown-uf3uf
    @NatalieBrown-uf3uf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great teaching boldness 😢 concern for souls sin is sin all . I witness the service. God bless you 🙏🏾

  • @mylifetotaly
    @mylifetotaly 9 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    All types of people attend large churches because of sugar-coated preaching.

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +mylifetotaly My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @tippingti85
    @tippingti85 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I thanks the Lord that some one finally address this issue that finally says we all come short but God loved us all

  • @charlesholsey6338
    @charlesholsey6338 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for being peculiar.With love and kindness have I drawn thee.❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️God is Love❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️C.O.G.I.C. Love ye One Another(Unconditionally)❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️Thank God for you SirWalter!❤️❤️❤️❤️Transparency looks very good on you my brother. The world can hear you because you speak a language they can understand it’s real it’s mutual and it’s relevant for such a time as now!Speak life❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @mindyourbusiness4369
    @mindyourbusiness4369 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank You, Elder for being spiritual clarity on repentance, biblical knowledge of the Holy Spirit, 107th COGIC Convention, and homosexuality and your own personal testimony. Thank you for showing the love of the Lord Jesus Christ. You are a true Man of God...

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +focus thought My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @thomasyoung5680
    @thomasyoung5680 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We all Better listen to this message

  • @shonabram
    @shonabram 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'll say this... I am over the COGIC church and every other church. I know and trust God because God has been there for me. Though I do believe there are people who love Christ in the church, the COGIC is no different the Catholic Church. I've had ministers, "men of God", who have molested me during the week, yet preached against homosexuality on Sunday and the pastors know. With that said, Know God for yourself and learn to hear Gods voice... I told God I want to know you and your voice and I will be honest with you about everything since you know my heart and the blessings have not stopped. I have forgiven those who hurt me and ignored me when I went to them but I'm not stupid to believe anything that comes out of the mouths of these men and women when for years they've knowingly allowed young boy and girls to be raped! The truth hurts all across the board in the world of Christianity... Hopefully one day the church will focus on Christ and accept people as they are with love and know that all of us can end in the lowest valley or on the highest mountain top. Come just as you are...

    • @quindelldoyle2487
      @quindelldoyle2487 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      In every church body, there are hypocrites and liers. They will have their day when they come down to be judged. Don't allow the ugliness of people stop you from attending church. COGIC is like any other church body.

  • @michaelwhitfield2303
    @michaelwhitfield2303 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Bro. Walter I'm 32yrs now, I got born-again @ the age of 24. I only stated that to say I've seen a little bit. Your absolutely right about the old Cogic mothers, I was tarying for deliverance and sure nough after praising, she said something to the tune of u ain't got it or something like that. But I was somewhat surprised she said it. But I knew they were they real deal. I pray the church can get more spiritual decerning a lot thing would not pass in The church of God in Christ.

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mike Whit Amen Mike, I was blessed by your comment

    • @quindelldoyle2487
      @quindelldoyle2487 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @JEROME BURNETT Kenneth Hagin. Smith Wigglesworth, Katheryn Kauman, Lester Summerall and John G. Lake were just a few of the great men and women of God.

  • @robertawhitfield2414
    @robertawhitfield2414 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    @ 28:57...“Man has lost his ever loving mind” 🤣🤣🤣; l thought it right before you said it...How true that statement it, but Jesus is the only answer for the world today 🙏🏽!!!

  • @FelixBrown25
    @FelixBrown25 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I so appreciate this presentation and I’m proud to belong to this church and that you exist! Thank you!

  • @damianevans102
    @damianevans102 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm not COGIC, but I will be within the next few months and I believe it's God's will for my life!

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Damian Evans My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @mindyourbusiness4369
    @mindyourbusiness4369 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank You, Elder for bring spiritual clarity about repentance, the Word of God. You are a positive example of a Man of God...

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +focus thought My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @joycecarlisle3200
    @joycecarlisle3200 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir Jones the church leaders saw the dust but didn't pay attention because the leaders thought would go away but instead the matter grew.

  • @Johnthjr
    @Johnthjr 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    CRY LOUD AND SPARE NOT !!!!!!!! Thats BIBLE !

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +jt theman My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @tawllms3
    @tawllms3 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really enjoyed your message and you are so correct in all of your statements!

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +T.A. Williams My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @lyndamcswain9603
    @lyndamcswain9603 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This what I'm talking about preaching the love and compassion of God Honey draws flies not vinegar. God bless you.

  • @dianeburton9066
    @dianeburton9066 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    amen sir you have said it all it is so sad that it's come down to this point I wish you would have made this video a couple of years ago Bishop Earl Carter and a couple of other ministers have really crushed Christian Community you got people that don't even want to go to church and after they heard that a bishop Carter it got worse none of us are perfect and we're all trying to get to heaven and you're right we need to pray for Bishop Carter and those that act like him that's the only way we're going to reach out to non-believers and the presiding Bishop should have put a stop to it when it first started he should have nipped it in the bud and is still going on thank you for making this video I really enjoyed it you told the whole truth and nothing but the truth May the peace and the blessings of God forever be upon you sir love your message

  • @reoandbert
    @reoandbert 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    a girl friend of mine invited me to come to church with her on a Wednesday night upon arrival I sat in the back to observe well after doing choreography of the united up and down clapping amen in unison...I was ushered up front of the meeting and hands was layered on me and was told to “review the Holy Spirit and upon receiving the Holy Spirit I would demonstrate the evidence of his presence by “SPEAKING IN TONGUES!!” It was a chanting by all in the room... so rolled my RRrrrrrshrrrrah!!!! and I was greeted as a brother and every one in the whole room erupted into new dance unlike the first one was up and down in the chair stand and sitting kneeling standing you get it... so I has to study to show myself approved...Luke dissipation note that like to day in NewYork City on a given block you could ha people of different nationality and cultures speak different languages and here upon hearing a tornado entering that house and the apostles exit the spoke to those there on the street marvel Hebrew ....speaking my tongue of Swahili with an accent sounds native people,!,” that’s what Luke told ...Paul said if it’s your gift be discreet about it and if you find that you have to express your self in the assembly::: TRANSLATION would be in order... I have been in worship services prayer meetings and it done continuous for least 15 minutes then one person will get up and pray and another person to get up and pray another person to pray I need to pray over you about an hour or 15 minutes of prayer repetition and continuous repetition and then in between there is this speaking in tongue thing and a whole service will continue like that for hours dancing and speaking in tongues...I have evidence that the Spirit of Jesus have a very profound relationship and I am led to find the answers to a question that I would ask the answer is found in his written WORD!

  • @gailboyle9741
    @gailboyle9741 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Because for so long this church as refused to address the issues. So you are having an issue with choice of words. We so speak about gluttony and other issues and it is acknowledged. The truth is the homosexual spirit is rampant in this church. Are you making this video for what true reason.

    • @jeanniedillard8827
      @jeanniedillard8827 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bruce Roberts; God is calling for us to be holy for God is Holy! 2 Corinthians 7:1 Since we have these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from every defilement of and spirit, bring holiness to completion in the fear of God. 1 Corinthians 6:19 or do you not know that your body temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, 20 for you are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s

  • @keithboyce42
    @keithboyce42 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I want to address this issue. I was born and raised Baptist and I have family members that were Church of God in Christ. I am so sick and tired of Church of God and Christ people blaming Baptist for the downfall of the music department. now I can admit that Baptist people did things out in the open but Church of God in Christ people did things under cover. We all fall short it doesn't matter what are our denomination is. this issue needs to be addressed like every other issue in the body of Christ that is causing separation from God. When we as a people would stop trying to blame everybody else for our own problems we will become great. You are in your situation because you allowed yourself to get involved, you might have had some influence but they didn't put a gun to your head. Christians it is time to grow up and come out the closet and stop blaming everybody else. I am proud to say that I am Church of God in Christ now!

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Keith Boyce My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @ms.foster8532
    @ms.foster8532 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was good information. Thank God for your word for knowledge of homosexuality. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

  • @jonseyjones7941
    @jonseyjones7941 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good teaching. The First time I saw the Delivert service, I immediately knew he was not delivered. It appeared to me Andrew used them for attention. He wants to be loved.And those holding the alter call used him for entertainment. There is as always this underlining element of an entertainment show in the modern church building. But I appreciate your balanced approach to the issue.

  • @4SeaSonS1435
    @4SeaSonS1435 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow! This message is still being heard - Jan 2024 👏🏽🙌🏽👏🏽🙌🏽

  • @rere065
    @rere065 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    OMG, I had to stop this 13 minutes in. I just knew you were going to have the opposite opinion and am pleasantly surprised by your stance. You are speaking the sho nuff TRUTH!! I agree with EVERY single point you have made thus far. Why would anyone want to join a church that insults them and does not show love? God's word is sufficient to do the work it was created to do, without the extra emotionalism in the church. We are so busy trying to get that Shout, that we missed the voice of God and what he is trying to teach us. Glad I stumbled on your channel, good stuff. Ok, back to the video, lol

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Renee Jones My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

    • @rere065
      @rere065 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      If u are going to insult someone, u should learn how to spell!!

  • @kelvinlyons3401
    @kelvinlyons3401 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He is right on point... Thank You Sir! I heard YOu!

  • @rainyhollowell2280
    @rainyhollowell2280 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    No one is TAUGHT how to receive the Holy Ghost. We receive Him after we repent and accept Christ as Lord and Savior.

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Rainy Hollowell My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

    • @tinawilliams6974
      @tinawilliams6974 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Rainy that's the problem, a lot of people think they can teach others to speak in tongues and I'm telling you God is watching that mess.....

    • @rainyhollowell2280
      @rainyhollowell2280 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes, He is.

  • @danmarley2886
    @danmarley2886 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have known for some time that the church is for saved people. Thank you for the history of the altar call. Holiness is the standard for the church and separation from sin and the world.
    But there is a mistaken notion that all and sundry should be welcomed into our congregations. What it has wrought is similar to the mixed multitudes that followed Israel out of Egypt. They only hindered the people of God from fulfilling the plan and purpose that God had for them. Not only that, they have polluted the churches and in some cases completely taken over. Who is on the Lord's side?
    Having done all to stand, stand therefore.
    Exercise the authority given for edification and rewarding disobedience with a just recompense and God will back up your authority. Put away the impenitent from among us for a little leaven, leavens the whole lump.
    We are not called to reform the world but to be transformed by the renewing of our minds. Grace and Peace!

  • @PastorMik
    @PastorMik 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Praise God for you. And blessings for taking time to tell a well-balanced, thoughtful and transparent perspective on this very unfortunate event. Had there been someone a little discernment in charge this whole thing would have ended so different. All are in my prayers.

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Pastor Mik Wade My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

    • @PastorMik
      @PastorMik 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      You certainly took your time getting your message out. Good stuff. Bless you for speaking out in truth. The church needs to get to doing what Jesus left us here to do.

  • @dionbell2005
    @dionbell2005 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    may God continue to keep and bless you

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Dion Bell My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @hershelhunt3390
    @hershelhunt3390 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    the time has come as the word say turn what is good evil and what is evil is right

  • @Trudy896
    @Trudy896 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I somehow thing I understand this man Mr. Walter Jones but he really needs to learn how to speak more clearly. Who cares who your pastor, bishop or whatever is! You COGIG people need to know how to Praise Jesus and God more instead of all of your Pastors, Apostles, Bishops, and Prophets! You give tooooo much credence to people than ever you give to God and Jesus Christ! And you need to Stop It; Just Give God and Jesus His Due Praise instead of all of your clergy! It's called Pride, Self Righteousness, Arrogance, and you need to leave off all of those High Potentates and Presiding Bishops and all that MESS!

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Trudy896 My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @ronb3913
    @ronb3913 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I knew Bishop Moody. My father was Missions President Region #6 Supt Garlin Bluford. We spent alot of time with Bishop Corliss Moody and the missionaries.

  • @ms.thomas918
    @ms.thomas918 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well spoken! Where are The Prayer Warriors. The song came to mind...Somebody Prayed for Me had Me on Their Mind and Took The Time To Pray for Me! We
    All must be so Very Careful in what we say and how we say it. The Power of Life and Death are in Our Tongues. Be angry BUT Sin Not!!! GOD will Judge all intentions, GOOD, BAD and Well Meaning!!! Those who are without any particular Sin will PRAY
    and not CAST STONES!
    The One We Serve said...
    John 13:34-35 and Luke 6:37. GOD Bless You Family💞

  • @dontlookatmypfp4987
    @dontlookatmypfp4987 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    God bless you for your response to this matter. I also feel that it is appropriate, well-balanced and truthful. I as well am 4th generation COGIC and love the church although I no longer attend. I am so pleased that someone has been able to respond to this situation from a spiritual yet logical place.

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Erica Johnson My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @aprilmoffett9780
    @aprilmoffett9780 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im cogic and grew up cogic and have noticed these things at 20 years old im grateful i ran across your show. You. Cleared up alot of confusion. Thank you and God bless

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +April Moffett My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @albertdurden4209
    @albertdurden4209 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brother, I enjoyed your segment. Here's what the Holy Ghost wants all men to do, "hear my voice and harden not your heart during these troubled times (Hebrews 3:7-17). Jesus said, "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. Unfortunately, we are living in the last days and there is no time for sugar coating the word of the Almighty God [Jesus]. Leaders of the church have fallen asleep and sin is running rampant, because they did not address sin (Isa 56:10-11).
    Jesus' solution to all men is this, "If my people, which are called by my NAME, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land (II Chronicles 7:14). Because the sinful nature of man, they have worked to remove God [Jesus] as our leader, provider and protector. This land is very sicken to sin. Apostle Peter stood up on the day of Pentecost and declared men "everywhere" to "repent" and be "baptized" in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ for the "remission" of sin and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost (Acts 2:38), because it is a promise. In order to insure sin has been removed...we all must repent and be baptized in Jesus Name; otherwise, there is no remission for sin. This is the word of God spoken...
    Once men have repented, we are to "prove" our love to HIM [Jesus] by the keeping of all His commandments, and his commandments are not grievous [burdensome]...I John 5:3. To know God [Jesus]...one is "required" to keep His commandments -- all ten! If someone claims, "I know God", but don't obey God's commandments, that person is called a liar for not living in the truth (I John 2:3-4). Our precious Savior [Jesus Christ] gave all men instructions by instituting this saying, "if you love ME...keep my commandments (John 14:15)." By keeping the commandments of the Almighty God [Jesus, HE WILL LOVE YOU FOR OBEYING them (John 14:21-23). That's good news to know that the Creator of the Universe [Jesus] love lit'l ole me for keeping and obeying his commandments; especially, the Seventh-Day Sabbath.
    Stay prayerful brother, because Jesus see your heart to compel men to HIM concerning the truth, but we are to keep his commandments; especially, the Seventh-Day Sabbath, as it was instructed by him. If man break his holy commandments (Ex 20:1-17)...they are sinning (I John 3:4). James said, if a man is guilty in one point, he is guilty of breaking all the commandments (James 2:10). For the keeping of God's Commandments, there are 10 blessings awaiting his people (Deut 28:1-14). If they don't obey God's commandments, they will be cursed (Deut 28:15-68) and this is what we are experiencing in this country.
    Will you pray with me while we have a chance for God to turn it around? My comments are not to hurt, or say curl things about anyone. I am commanded by Jesus to love EVERYBODY...regardless of their background and status (Matt 22:39). And, to help sanctify those for Kingdom Building through truth (John 17:17). The Holy Ghost is intelligent and he will help us to witness and say the right thing (Acts 1:8).
    To our Savior be the Glory for the good things HE has done (Phil 4:20), In Jesus Name.

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +albert durden My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @bolachurch
    @bolachurch 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I couldn't bear watching this video anymore cos I got disgusted that this so called man of GOD would insist that we shouldn't offend those whose act are an abomination unto GOD!!!! James said 'friendship with the world is enmity against GOD' (James 4:4). How long are we going to sit back and let the devil take over the church and the pulpit cos we're so concerned about reaching the community and multiplying the numbers rather than preaching the gospel of deliverance?

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You apparently didn't hear ANY of the part of the video where I said to PREACH AGAINST SIN... (Hit rewind)

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +bolachurch My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @josephalston4028
    @josephalston4028 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    No man is not perfect but God is perfect. I do understand your struggles i have been there. Thank God for the delivering powering of God.

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +joseph alston My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @klg4life826
    @klg4life826 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Preach and teach Elder

  • @mypersonalmoneybiz4717
    @mypersonalmoneybiz4717 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very enlightening, I had a preacher that got away with molesting me and I didn't do nothing about it. And he is still preaching today. Lust is so strong, but still how can you get before God's people and pretend you so saved?

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Mypersonalmoney Biz My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

    • @quindelldoyle2487
      @quindelldoyle2487 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sirwalterj You can what you want but Gino Jennings is good at preaching on sin and they don't attempt to fight him the way they will the COGIC. You know why? The church allowed homosexuality to run rampant in the church body along with fornication, adultery, pornography, lying and stealing.

  • @hettieyarbrough3042
    @hettieyarbrough3042 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We need to repent daily!

  • @ladybookworm1635
    @ladybookworm1635 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    VERY INTERESTING VID & INFO🤔🙄😒thank you Elder Jones for breaking it all down! I learned some things that I did not know...again THANKS and continued BLESSINGS 🙏🏽👏🏽🙏🏽

  • @jesusrules7241
    @jesusrules7241 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Speaking in tongues is not a prerequisite to being filled with the holy spirit.

    • @martindennis6837
      @martindennis6837 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you

    • @damonsullivan5525
      @damonsullivan5525 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is?????

    • @Steve7ten
      @Steve7ten 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No its the evidence

    • @Steve7ten
      @Steve7ten 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Bruce Roberts Bro you must continue to read through the rest of the book. Dont just stop at chapter 2. Everytime someone receives the Holy Ghost in the book of Acts, they spoke in tongues. Why do you feel that its different for us today? And where did it stop?

    • @calba24
      @calba24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! I speak in tongues because I was “filled” one Sunday at the altar on my own accord, but I don’t look down on others who don’t speak in tongues. They tried that tarrying with me a couple of times at a COGIC church, but I was raised Baptist and I was taught you don’t play with God. I told them when I get myself right, He will come and He did one Sunday at the altar when I was praying by myself. I can’t hold back my speaking at times when I worship God, but I don’t speak in tongues 24/7 because I know I am not always in the “spirit “ if I am not in worship. I work a job, and sometimes speaking in tongues is the last thing on my mind. Some people fake too much with the Holy Ghost, and try to say that those who aren’t “filled” don’t have him. It is the evidence, but the Holy Ghost dwells in each of us because he is everywhere in this world. He is a He because He is God’s spirit. I can’t stand to hear someone call the Holy Ghost an “it”. He is real, and I believe that we all who love the Lord he will dwell with us no matter the denomination or doctrine.

  • @claybennett2540
    @claybennett2540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Doc give it up. Stop taking up for homesexuality

  • @srobearl
    @srobearl 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great balanced message Pastor. And great truth you telling. Great discernment.

  • @louisaccardi6808
    @louisaccardi6808 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Matthew 17: 21 is not even in many of the modern newer translations. Some translation put that verse in a footnote. However, I have taught that verse in the KJV and used it and know that there is power in prayer and fasting because I tried it over and over. We need to get back to that practice as a church and people of God.

  • @judahsue1219
    @judahsue1219 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Most High and Christ dealt with, and deals with, (the lineage of Jacob or Israel) the Nation of Israel (12 Tribes of Israel) NOT RELIGION. The POWER is not there because men in High Places are not able to discern what the Truth of the Word is saying to the Body of Christ ( Jews & Gentiles alike). Shalawam...

  • @joeannwhite8746
    @joeannwhite8746 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The follow-up and follow through is most important for relationshipsr in the body of Christ Amen

  • @haroldbarnes182
    @haroldbarnes182 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This comment is for The Sir Walter Jones Show. I heard you say in the video that you are in First Jurisdiction of IL with the Bishop Ocie Booker. I feel led to join that Jurisdiction for a few reasons but I am not sure what local church should I attend. Please give me your opinion of some churches I should check out. I live in the western suburbs of Chicago. I need your help please respond to this comment when you have the chance.

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      God bless you brother Harold, its great having you here. There are several churches in 1st, all of which have different worship experiences. But since you live West (suburbs), the closest church I know is Emanuel COGIC, Pastor Michael Richardson off of I290 and Kedzie. Its a small church but don't let that fool you... they are very active in the Community and in the Jurisdiction and if you have any young people in your home, Pastor Richardson is the State AIM Chairman.
      Email me at giftedfriends@aol.com

  • @horaceburns4614
    @horaceburns4614 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is not the first time earl carter preached this way or said these things...They knew what they were getting when they put him up...Beside it was not just earl carter all the people in the audience were clapping and cheering him on..

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +horace burns My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @vladyline42
    @vladyline42 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What that minister said was wrong. It was offensive to anyone who knows and follower Christ. But all issues should be addressed in the church. This is the problem, our religious liberties are at stake, and acting as if the church is suppose to accept mess is unacceptable. All people are welcome in the body of Christ, but if a perverted spirit is in the church for the wrong reason, and you allow it to run through and make it the normal. This is a problem. That spirit is mad at God and His people. This this is the reason that spirit exists. It is trying to make a mockery of what God has established. See the individual in Love, but see what's really going on. There is a time to fight. This means with our voices in the synagons, in Washington DC, against this spirit that wants us to go against our beliefs in Christ. They are not playing and neither should we. Open your eyes.

    • @DeaconHulk
      @DeaconHulk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I totally agree sister see God works in the unseen and the people are scared because they see what's happening through sightAbsolutely no faithYou can't believe in God but then don't trust his word.

  • @theone5404
    @theone5404 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brother, the word will drive you or draw you. You need to feel convicted of your sin. Period.

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +The One My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @anng7514
    @anng7514 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jesus, never beat up on people struggling with sin. He loved sinners but hated sin. He addressed/rebuked sin (the woman at the well) but never was unkind to the individual. He was only tough with the Pharisees because they knew better and oppressed the people with religious bondage. Jesus was never unnecessarily harsh even with the pharisees but tried every method to get them to see their need and condition. Jesus loved the pharisees and even those that put him on the cross. Let us love like Jesus. No sin is too big for Jesus. We are all sinners saved by grace.

    • @soundjudgement3586
      @soundjudgement3586 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely correct. All devote believers despise sin in themselves and in others. Jesus did not come to condem ( a person's soul ) but to save. Too many comments are deeply rooted on self hate on here. Yes self hate and bigotry yet they claim they are born again. Hate the sinbut live the person. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples that ye love ( not spew hate ) one another.

  • @alexandermcbride2871
    @alexandermcbride2871 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about the Churches that allow Women Pastors and the Bible clearly condemns this...Because just like people are getting used to Homosexuality, they got used to disobeying Scripture and ordaining women preachers...

  • @pwalker69
    @pwalker69 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I paused when he kept saying "I'm proud" Pride is not of God. There's no scriptures that support being proud is of God. God, of course can be "pleased" but not proud. Power of words are important.

    • @soundjudgement3586
      @soundjudgement3586 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, but you're not accurate. The use of the word " suffer " in biblical directives can mean: 1.to totally disallow., e.g., Psalm 121:3-5 He will not suffer thy foot to be moved or 2. God grants / allows something to manifest from suffering.,
      And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou. Hence, Pride can be used either as self glory ( sin ) or admiration for something good. The Elder expressed the latter in his presentation.

  • @Untilhecomes85
    @Untilhecomes85 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is still revelant in 2020

  • @rwcolquitt5382
    @rwcolquitt5382 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hallelujah! Try God and He will show Himself great!

  • @hectorroach6946
    @hectorroach6946 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Where in the bible does it talk about having an altar call?

    • @keepingitrealandtruthful.5081
      @keepingitrealandtruthful.5081 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Altar call came about in the late 1800s. It's not in the bible.

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Hector Roach My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @truevictory6618
    @truevictory6618 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    My experience and observation is this: Whatever the people in the church see about a person by the means of revelation spiritual gifts; they take that information, and they spread it all over the church and all over town about the person.

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +True Victory My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @fehoward1900
    @fehoward1900 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sorry friend. You're in a battle you can't win.

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Frank Howard My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @rbutler92go
    @rbutler92go 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your message was well spoken. However, there is a culture of ignorance that have ingrained itself deep in the church. Why do you think people felt it was alright to release that video about that man saying "he don't like mens no more. He like women, women , women. Because it is part of the show. The church is over 100 year old, where are the hospitals, the universities, and financial institutions. The churchz's culture is sick. Believe it or not if Mason was alive he would not be welcome to preach in most Church of God and Christ pulpits. First thing they would say that he is old fashion, he not educated, and he moans to much.

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are actually correct Rickey!

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +rickey b butler My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @92lovinHim
    @92lovinHim 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I grew up in the COGIC, and never have I heard anyone actually TEACH before I heard you speak. That is what the church lacks, is SOUND TEACHING. What I saw at the 107th convention (via video on TH-cam) was a mockery. I am gay. I don't have any shame in that, and it took me years to come to understand God, and His purpose for me to fully be able to say that. For me, God is COMPLETE love, meaning His love extends beyond your faults, "flaws", or actions. Being gay can't cancel God's love, being a liar can not cancel God's love. I don't believe there is anything God detests more than a closed, hardened, and unwilling heart. Had Andrew Caldwell, and even the "evangelist" that was "convicting his spirit" been TAUGHT what the Lord can do with a WILLING and OPEN heart, that incident would not have happened. I believe that God can do ALL things through the heart of a man or woman who WILLINGLY allows Him in to do His work. Not only that, but He gives us (through the shed blood of Christ) the POWER to work WITH HIM in doing the work. That is what the "evangelist" missed. That is the teaching that Andrew missed. Your teaching here, I believe, will open hearts of those who do not feel being homosexual is a part of the life that God has planned for them. What I can't agree with, though, are some facts you presented around being a part of the gay community and it being tantamount to a "gang". Just as salvation is personal, so is deliverance. And if one's deliverance is real, then the reprimand and backlash from the world should not be enough to make someone back slide. Overall, thank you for this message you've shared and the spirit of love you exude. It is greatly appreciated!!

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      D. Walters I was moved by your words D. Walters... Thank you

    • @TB473
      @TB473 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes God still loves you. God loves everyone. But hates sin. Just because God loves you dosent mean your gonna be able to willfully sin and not seek deliverance from homosexuality and still make it to heaven. Dosent work that way. God said be holy for I am holy. And as much as God loves us. He also let us know that he is angry with the wicked everyday. Sin angers God. Without holiness. No man shall see the lord.

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Umm, WHERE in the video did I say that Homosexuality was ok? I condemned it like I did all the OTHER sins.

    • @TB473
      @TB473 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +The Sir Walter Jones Show I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to the man who commented above you

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry about that, I apologize!

  • @jimmyarmijo792
    @jimmyarmijo792 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you do God's will, you are perfect.
    Jesus said " Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect.".
    Too many people make excuses to justify sin.
    When you do God's will your perfect.
    You better be found doing God's will when Jesus comes in the Rapture.
    The reason you struggle like you do, are you really born again?
    Jesus said in John three verse 1-8, that we must be born again.
    See Acts 2:38. You must be baptized in Jesus' name and be filled with the Holy Ghost.
    Jesus died for one sin only; Adam's transgression. He restored fellowship between God and man. Now the blood of Jesus cleanses us from all sin. That's when you repent.
    No baptism in the name of Jesus, NO remission of sins.

    • @soundjudgement3586
      @soundjudgement3586 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Correct, there is no excuse for sin, but, John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
      John 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
      Matthew 3:8-10 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:

  • @cedricro.9909
    @cedricro.9909 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The minute he said, "The church is perfect." I stopped listening. The church is the people, no perfect people go to church. There is no such thing as a "perfect church.' We all strive to be faithful and live up to the word. Sexuality and gender are two different things. Gender is your biological assignment sexuality is who and what you respond to. What preachers of every denomination should do is call all of the homosexuals and bisexuals (if they'll come) up to the front of the church and refund all of their tithes and offerings, then put them out. Guaranteed you'd have an almost empty and financially strapped church. Next call out the gossipers, adulterers, liars, alcoholics, drug addicts, judgement passers, etc. Seems like the church could use a healing.

    • @Steve7ten
      @Steve7ten 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well who is Jesus coming back for? I believe He said a Church without spot or wrinkle.

    • @danmarley2886
      @danmarley2886 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Steve7ten You took the words right out of my mouth!
      The reason for the new covenant is because of sin.
      Jesus came to take away our sin. We are to become perfect and holy even as God is perfect and holy.
      If we don't know the truth then how can we be made free, free from the bondage of sin.
      I am full of this matter. You made my day. Grace and peace!

  • @Qvokal
    @Qvokal 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So let me address this and to all other pastors/preachers who have shared their views on being a real man. You rather all men be straight, ignore all there feminine traits such as so-called emotions, tenderness, loving but to project this masculinity at all times, be that angry black man who thinks everything is unfair or that everyone is against them because they are living a life of masculinity, this person whom you are told to be ? I’ll pass, all those men who wanted to prove their masculinity are in jail, dead-beat fathers and unsuccessful men, since being educate, articulate, smart, or expressive are a feminine trait? I am a successful young black man and my parents always taught me to be SOMEONE and as long as GOD is my foundation, that’s who will lead me on and not MAN and their philosophies, their theories on being a man when you were born a beautiful man and the talking down to other men (with names on the pulpit?) really. More men like me need to be out-spoken and stand up to this and educate these pastors/preachers. Generation NeXt! RJ

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Qvokal My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @blackberrylady6025
    @blackberrylady6025 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are different Pentecostal churches...Some dont believe in holiness..The lives without holiness....But I know and in a APOSTOLIC PENTECOSTAL CHURCH where u lives the old time Holiness....We lives and dress holiness....Big difference.... Honey come to my church....There is real discernment.. There are a unity, and I agree my pastor preaches the whole bible and sins....🖐🏽🖐🏽🖐🏽🖐🏽🖐🏽🎖🎖🎖🎖🎖

  • @nieciebee2
    @nieciebee2 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    YOU TELL THE TRUTH AND SHAME THE DEVIL WALT MAN!!

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Denise Mckenzie Spencer My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @davidrectorthesinger
    @davidrectorthesinger 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The church/religion uses Scripture to justify hatred, prejudice and bigotry. The church should be about three things: worship, praise and service. All that other "BS! is a terrible misuse of man's relationship with God and the church/religion should be ashamed of what the church/religion is doing to hurt people.

  • @creoleladee
    @creoleladee 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Separation of church and state", is why the law has been expanded in many states to include those who are gay/lesbian. The Constitution protects those who are. A large part of the US population are neither Christan or COGIC. Many support this law.
    My question to you and the Black church is why aren't y'all focused on the low rate of marriage amongst HETERSEXUAL men/women?
    Now a days even those who tell everyone else they are saved and walk close to the lord, have babies out of wedlock and live with their gf/bf.
    Now, I know this is not new and occurred "back in the day" but not to the extent it is now. It so pervasive in the Black community as it is now common place.
    Most Black families consist of a single female with children. Why aren't you focused on that?
    Also, why hasn't the Black church taken on the issue of the high rate of incarceration of young Black men? Many of them did not have fathers in their lives. Many also did not do well in school. Why doesn't the Black church provide tutorial classes for those in their community?
    There is a lot of dysfunction rampant in the community that the Black church seems to filed in the "too hard" file.
    Instead, of teaching responsibility, and self respect, the Black church stays silent.
    Why are you ignoring the elephants in the room (the disintegration of the Black family) ?
    Focusing on the JUST the sin of homosexuality (your words) makes the church seem myopic and paranoid.

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +creoleladee My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @yoshluv7
    @yoshluv7 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well spoken and taken.

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +yoshluv7 My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @kevinboone2178
    @kevinboone2178 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will not be a bystander. I will not be a perpetrator. You know my name. Say your name. And call theirs.
    This was a commentary I recently posted on a site with Kirk Franklin speaking on this subject.
    Many here have commented on our brother, Kirk, as if they know him or with whom he sleeps. And they've taken for themselves one of God's prerogatives, judging, as if they knew Mr. Franklin's heart, which places them in mortal danger. In Heaven's Court, when Eternity Beckons, will their Glass Houses shatter?
    I want to address the anti-homosexuality Biblical scriptures often cited. Because my purpose is to educate, the length of my commentary's longer than usual for You Tube. Some might appreciate thoughtful responses, others not so much; but such is life, and I harbor no illusions.
    Many folks have read the Bible. And they "know" what it states about their homosexual brethren/thank you. "Fronting" like eminent theologians, prominent doctors of ministry and/or celebrated Ancient History scholars, they riff like Miles would his trumpet on what the Bible says about THOSE PEOPLE. Well I've read several books on health and medicine. Call the "poe-leese", alert the press, then run away as fast as you can when you see "Kevin Boone, M.D." on some medical shingle.
    Why are the "men lying with men" verses in the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) and New Testament. Understanding how sexuality and inhospitable behavior manifested itself in the nations and peoples covered by the anthology of stories in the Bible would mean we need to stop condemning homosexuals. And by looking in the mirror we'd see our hypocritical selves.
    My summary will show how homosexual and homosexuality, the person and the act, are not necessarily the same. For demonstrating it, context is necessary, something egregiously missing in traditional Biblical interpretation and translation.
    More than a few women in antiquity avoided sexual relations. Some died when pregnant and numerous others while giving birth or shortly thereafter. (context)
    Numerous babies died in-utero or during or shortly after being born. And many children died before puberty. (context)
    Unlike today with advances in medicine and nutrition, females and babies lives then were precarious. Women thought hard before engaging sexually. (context)
    The Ancient Near East, the Roman World and Greece, areas in which Biblical stories take place, were interesting places for many reasons, especially sexually. Individuals were having sexual relations with the opposite sex and their genders, in many instances for reasons in addition to pleasure. Because of cults, the cult of temple prostitution, for example, for ceremonial reasons, for men vanquished by war or violence, for dominance, for the acceptance of pederasty (boy-man love), etc., heterosexual folk were having sexual relations (anal sex) with their own genders, They were heterosexuals engaging in acts of homosexuality. An ax murder is not about the ax --- and those Biblical scriptures are not about homosexuals. (context)
    While many married women and others weren't "giving it up" (so to state), there were a few women engaged in prostitution and/or orgies; rape played a prominent role as well. (context)
    God and the prophets understood if heterosexuals engaged in homosexuality, the human population, nations and cultures couldn't survive. (context)
    Consider homosexuality in men's prisons. The overwhelming majority of those engaging in sexual relations with their genders are heterosexual. I understand many would say those men are really homosexual, but I don't think so. Those men engage in same-sex relations for pleasure, dominance and for the absence of women. But their minds, bodies and souls are still primarily oriented to females. They remain heterosexual. Here "homosexual" and "homosexuality" are distinctions with a difference. (context)
    To understand the "men lying with men" (MLWM) scriptures folk have to do more than focus on words. As important is to know something about the histories, cultures and traditions and legal systems, ancient languages (and problems of translation), etc., of the places in which Biblical stories take place. You won't otherwise get the context.
    Why were some of those MLWM verses added to the King James* Bible/KJB (and some lesser ones) in the 1940s? Go do some work, folks. Find out the roles played by hysteria, homosexuality, circumcision, masturbation and Kellogg's and Post breakfast cereals and "graham crackers" (White-oriented Black folks? Oh, no!). (*His HIGHNESS was a notorious drinker and homosexual; Sir Walter Raleigh in letters often referred to him as "Queen James.")
    Consider the (loaded) term "abomination": All of us are "abominations unto the Lord," at least according to the Bible.
    ABOMINATION" is a woefully inaccurate translation of the original Hebrew terms "toevah" and "sheketz," words used to describe some failing (moral or ethical), cult behavior, or idolatry practiced by other peoples; and these are something to be avoided by the Ancient Israelites, as they are "taboo" (toevah/shekketz). The Old English word "abomination" is a corruption. According to the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament), wearing certain clothing, eating particular shell-fish and meat, lying, remarriage, not keeping kosher, fornication, adultery, misbehaving children, lewd sexuality in a cultic fashion, male homosexuality, worshiping idols and false gods, practicing witchcraft, etc., are all considered toevah (taboo) / sheketz. Why are we singling out one class of people, homosexual human beings, as the personification of the term? (context)
    If you want to preach something about healthy relationships, preach the truth: Each one must be centered in LOVE absent adultery, hate, coercion, promiscuity or pedophilia. THOSE PEOPLE and YOU PEOPLE need to preach, teach and practice that moral-ethic. Individuals, families, communities and nations suffer when we don't.
    If responding, don't quote "chapter & verse," as I know them. I respect your literal reading of the Bible, as you have every right to believe what you will. I understand the difference between the "God of Faith" and the "Historical Jesus," and they're not synonymous (not the same things).
    I use a historical-critical method of interpretation, one informed by various disciplines, including the history of human sexuality, a relatively new field of inquiry. An understanding of the problems of translation and transcription has been helpful as well.
    Evangelical and fundamentalist brethren are aghast at this iconoclasm. Non-superlatives like "evil," "reprobate mind," "devil" and, my absolute favorite, "abomination," are hurled like so many stones. Many believe descending into Hell and into Satan's warm embrace is my fate. Many would do well to look in the mirror for who might go to hell.
    I sleep well at night, as God understands me, knows my heart. He's always been there for me, and mine, and I will never abandon Him. He's the "light of my light." And you can't touch that. I know a lie can't live forever. And "to everything its season under the heavens." Shalom, sisters and brothers. (KFB, 6.14.16)

  • @lynnbussey8951
    @lynnbussey8951 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    first of all, the first covenant was based on performance based acceptance, and all of the preordained blessings of God would be applied to your life. if you keep all of the commandments on a consistant bases you was accepted by God.Jesus was the only one who was able to do that because He was without sin. when you become born again you are identified in Christ, we are one with Him because of His obedience. thank you Jesus.

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Lynn Bussey My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @dorrisharris666
    @dorrisharris666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep his commandments

  • @larrycooper5388
    @larrycooper5388 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I WOULD LOVE TO MEET YOU IN PERSON. I AM AN ELDER IN ARKANSAS BUT CAME FROM TEXAS SOUTHEAST FIRST JURIDICTION UNDER BISHOP ROBERT E WOODARD HOUSTON..I AM NOW PLAYING ORGAN AT GOLD HILL BAPTIST CHURCH IN ATKINS.

  • @toloutoo
    @toloutoo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the Church of God in Christ……..
    I can’t take much more. I have to say something. First of all let me say that I love the Church of God in Christ. I love what it stands for and what it stands against. I love the Doctrine, the History, the Founder, the past leaders, and the current one. I was born into the natural side of this church on 8/8/1964 (4th-generation GOGIC), and the spiritual side on 1/25/1976. I have been running for Jesus a long time and yes, there have been times that I have gotten tired of running. Have I been perfect since my spiritual birth? No! I have made some innocent mistakes, and some bad choices. The innocent mistakes that I made were before hearing the Word of God (I didn’t know any better); and the bad choices that I made were after hearing the Word of God (I knew better, but the lust of the flesh was greater than my love for the Word). My bad choices led to me backsliding, which led to sins that I never imagined that I would commit. Oh, the shame that comes with sin. But God, and the Grand Old Church of God in Christ! When I was beaten down in sin, living a sinful lifestyle, and thought that I could not get back to God, I got up one Sunday morning and went to church. I was miserable in sin. I heard the anointed Word of God that day, repented of my sins, God reclaimed me, and I have never looked back. This Church (COGIC) is not perfect, but our God is! This Church is not without spot or blemish, but the church that Jesus Christ is going to rapture is! Therefore, let the world see God in us, not just church! Every saint of God has a charge to witness. Acts 1:8. The purpose of witnessing is to win souls for the kingdom. And we must be wise to do that! Prov. 11:30. How can the world accept our witness if they see us fighting each other? Calling each other horrible names! Accusing each other in front of people who are not yet saved! Launching evil attacks against leadership! Launching attacks against our brethren! Galatians 6:1-2. My heart is broken and saddened for my church; the love of my life, the apple of my eye, my birthright, my safety net. I know offenses, disputes, disagreements, fights (whatever you want to call what is going on right now on TH-cam), will come, but, do we have to do it in the eyes of the world? Do we? Do we C.O.G.I.C. folks? Shame on us! Shame on us! Shame on us! Shame on us! Daniel 9:7-14. There is a way, a godly and Christian way to handle and resolve this catastrophe that is devastating this denomination. (Read 2 Samuel 12:1-24, Acts 15: 1-29). Sirs, please stop these attacks, in the name of Jesus. Please! Not for those of us who are already born again, but for the souls whom we have been assigned to win for Christ: up to and including the homosexual, the lesbian, bi-sexual, gay, transgender, queer, liar, pedophile, murderer: by man-made weapon (gun, knife, ect…) or that dreaded man-born weapon (the tongue), thief, idol mind, robber, drug dealer, drug user, false prophet, hypocrite, adulterer, fornicator, idolaters, sorcerers, doubters, etc…. You see, we were all guilty of something according to Romans 3:23. Not by choice, but by birthright! That came from the first Adam. But, thank God for the second Adam! Jesus Christ! And thank God for the blood of Jesus. Not only does the blood still work, but the blood does not discriminate! The blood of Jesus washes away sin. My sin. Your sin. All sin! Whatever the sin; omission (sin), commission (sin), abomination (sin), intentional (sin), secret (sin), whatever the sin. And one final note. The church (blood washed souls in Jesus Christ) is the Lamb’s Bride. Be careful how you treat this bride. St. Matthew 16:18; 18:6.

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +patrecia simpson My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @PbwWllms-md2vu
    @PbwWllms-md2vu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was there that night, I left after the message

  • @Grapho137
    @Grapho137 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well said. Great video

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +ttb2857 My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @classylass5472
    @classylass5472 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What happened to the Pentecostal church? They joined Rome. Your outfit is Roman. Now ask the people, what happened to the church? Money, power, Rome. It's not their fault, it's yours.

  • @craigallums8220
    @craigallums8220 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir walter jones have you heard of jesus calli v book. By sara young A ny way A.VERRY GOOD BOOK IT. WILL E
    BLEESS YOU

  • @jevans6079
    @jevans6079 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AMEN!

  • @brendaalexander5816
    @brendaalexander5816 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    how do you become the very thing you HATE i don't get it.

  • @chrisford3414
    @chrisford3414 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is a difference in fighting/battling something and then just being overtaken by it. If someone is fighting/battling something, that means that they are not wanting to be a part of it. They are wanting out. But if some one is letting that thing overtake them, that's a whole other thing. When you are overtaken by something, you are willfully indulging in it. Homosexuals that want to be delivered(that are fighting/battling that thing,) they will be helped. But when are want to willing stay in an abomination and blaspheme God Himself, the Holy Ghost in the man of God is not going to sit idly by and let it happen. The Bible instructs the watchman to cry loud and spare not. He obeyed the Holy Ghost when he spoke against the homosexuals that like what they are into and don't want to come out of it. If anyone wants to bash and attack that then, I pray the very mercy of God on you. Because you have just attacked the Holy Ghost. The man didn't say of that, the Holy Ghost did.

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Chris Ford My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @christdiscoverychannel2334
    @christdiscoverychannel2334 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Obey Acts 2:38!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @jmacjones1296
      @jmacjones1296 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      COGIC don't do Acts 2:38!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not one verse in the Bible from Acts-Revelation show the Apostle or anyone else for that matter baptizing in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost!!!! Those Apostles were disobedient to Jesus.....Right???? How is it that Apostles who walked with Jesus for 3.5 years day and night then received the outpouring of the Holy Ghost to do ministry right, after being filled, come right out the gate and baptize wrong???? This is what COGIC and other denominations says. Then us Gentiles come along and say they Apostles baptized wrong.......REALLY????? OR did the Apostles understood that Jesus meant tsomething else in Matthew 28:20. That's what really happened. The Apostolic faith baptize according to scripture but their reason being that bcuz it's "Jesus Only" is wrong.

    • @chood2833
      @chood2833 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amen. . .

    • @chood2833
      @chood2833 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So, do you understand what baptism is about? Explain....

  • @hollingsworthjuan
    @hollingsworthjuan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not going away

  • @hettieyarbrough3042
    @hettieyarbrough3042 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Teach ❤️ love

  • @Johnthjr
    @Johnthjr 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isaiah 58 King James Version (KJV)
    58 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +jt theman My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @haroldbarnes182
    @haroldbarnes182 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just finished emailing you and I look forward to hearing from you.

  • @mariowhiteside2029
    @mariowhiteside2029 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    PTL, what happened at CTAFC?

  • @dwightgavin2805
    @dwightgavin2805 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I Love the lord, I love the COGIC. Its leadership. This mess that going on with those who claiming salvation. Name who slept with who ITS NOT OF GOD. Let God arise and his enemy be scattered

  • @cj-zn9lg
    @cj-zn9lg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amen amen amen

  • @hettieyarbrough3042
    @hettieyarbrough3042 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are humble!

  • @Johnthjr
    @Johnthjr 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did not Jesus himself call the Pharisees and Sadducees vipers, ect ! When he got fed up with their ways he did not cut corners . Constantly calling them out and revealing who they were and what they were doing many times . When God told Jonah to go preach in Nineveh , he told him to go tell them about their wicked ways , to CRY OUT AGAINST IT . That does not mean be sensitive to their situation ! How were you converted ! Someone had to at some time cry out against the sins you were committing . Sins I was committing ! I know Jesus said that through love and kindness have I drawn thee , but he hates sin ! Did not Jesus whip those people out of the temple for selling trading , buying , Did he not flip the money table over in anger at what they were doing in his house of prayer !

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jt, you apparently didn't LISTEN to the entire video... Hit the REWIND button and see where I called a Spade a Spade :-)

    • @daloaded1
      @daloaded1 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the video, it helps to have a balance vue on the subject. I've found this video insightful, as a young preacher myself I believe in law to the proud and grace to the humble. As you rightly said pastor, a large part of the problem is most churches don't have a firm or clear stand on this issue aswell as other similar problems, and we don't really create a forum for it. People have two extremes, either they turn a blind eye (which I believe that's what the sermons intent was about at the 107th) or they completely give no home to the homosexual. That being said there is a difference between the lost who want help and want deliverance and the proud who wan t to stay the way they are and not only be accepted but glorified. I work in a school and when it comes to bad behavior there are some you need to be harsh with and some you have to be so gentle with. Don't be soft with blatant, habitual sin that is destroying the life of its practitioner and the on lookers, rebuke, reprove, exhort with all longsuffering! Law to the proud and grace tonthe humble.

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      AMEN Joel Brown! I enjoyed that

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +jt theman My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

  • @tru-shushu.8703
    @tru-shushu.8703 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    what about Leviticus 19:27, 21:5 & Numbers 15:38 are commandments. Ezekiel 22:26 is why christianity/religion is over. Love is keeping the commandments of The MOST HIGH st.John 14:15. there is no fear in love 1John 4:18. you should cry aloud and SPARE not and show our people their sin Isaiah 58:1

  • @godschild928
    @godschild928 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    FOR one thing you don't have to tarry my brother,the mothers were wrong in doing this,and many went into judgement cause they really had the Holy Ghost yet were told they didn't,then back slid and died that way,a lot of mothers will have to answer to God,Bishops as well...

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Joseph Nether My Final Answer on Earl Carter, Please Watch - th-cam.com/video/YUD7De2GCJI/w-d-xo.html

    • @godschild928
      @godschild928 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      didn't even watch it,why? cause thy very homosexual you all maligned him over has not only gotten rich,but is now famous all the while has made a complete fool of cogic and its head apostate so called bishop blake,God already covered Dr carter and all who stood with him

  • @Allnationsworldwide
    @Allnationsworldwide 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I understand what your saying brother and i agree with some of your points, but I'm concerned about how your trying to say a holiness preacher that is moved by the spirit of God to say what's on his heart and PEOPLE get saved and delivered that your saying he should have used different language. we should leave it alone.Jesus and Paul and many of the old testament prophets said very harsh words to the people who were lifted up with religious pride.I believe that's where Pastor Carter was coming from. True Holiness (living free from Sin)is right all by itself and God don't need you or me to say anything about how he uses his servant.It's still holiness or hell for us all.

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most people, AFTER observing the sermon days later, saw the FLESH in that message.. which is why it caused more DIVISION than anything. Many homosexuals struggle with this stronghold and you can't preach to them in such exclusivity.. they are not the Pharisees of Jesus day.

    • @Allnationsworldwide
      @Allnationsworldwide 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So this means that most of the people and Bishops in attendance were in flesh that were screaming in support at what he was saying.The truth is there was a anointing in the message because Yokes were destroyed.It only caused Division among people who are under the influence of a Carnal secular society that want to make end roads in the church.The Holiness Preach has always been controversial because he preaches against SIN..

    • @sirwalterj
      @sirwalterj  9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      All Nations COGIC Richmond, Ca WHAT yokes were destroyed? Who did the follow-up?Rewind the video, I also preached against SIN.. even my OWN sin. But where was the FRUIT of that night? Can we get some testimonials?