OBE for services to rehabilitation of offenders in 1996, perish the thought our quangos are created for the career paths of their inventors.... NUS Scotland chair in 1979(clever start), political career with Labour 1990s, Labour for Independence 2012. Ideologist or careerist? The question is, has she given it back/can you give these things back?
@@anniethenoo Of course, you can give it back but it doesn't look like she has. Dougie MacLean's another one. I mean, Dougie MacLean... Aw, man. Just out of curiosity, was this mentioned in the video?
Caught this episode late. It was worth waiting for. She who can't be named should resign and take Swinney and the other traitors with her. They are all bereft of morals and principles! Wish I could redact the lot of them.
Thank you for the straight talking. Opened up my eyes.yes why dont Scotland export all your goods, instead of letting your goods being handled by the english. 😢 Shocking discussion, what England is doing.its like apartheid against our humanity 😢
so sad to see, I left New Zealand to come over to Scotland to canvass for the YES team in Aberdeen, 5 weeks before the independence vote, WHY THE FUCK DID I BOTHER??
Great debate Prism team exposing rundown of Scots Industry and routeing our Exports via England to benefit England. Also Alan hit nail on head about the many other Holocaust victims who were from oppressed minorities! 👏
If Sturgeon is now saying that she couldn’t have done any more to achieve independence for Scotland, then she should retire from Scottish politics completely. Unless of course, she decides to join a unionist party, where I’m sure she would be much happier. And God help them.
This freeport business is a dystopian nightmare in the making. I encourage everyone to watch Plastic Pills' (a philosophy channel) video on the subject - "it's cheaper to buy a political party than it is to buy a Rembrandt." Previous comment didn't post so apologies if this appears twice.
All she could have done under British rules. To hell with British rules. Scottish rules are the only rules you have to obey. Just to add you guys know your stuff. Get angry get it done.
I am a patriot through and through until my dying day, but fighting amongst ourselves is what we are good at, I will never see my country free, hard truths need to be spoken about, how do you get out of a hostage situation when your hands are tied, what could Nicola do half the country feel they need Daddy England to support them, how could she feel confident in that? My self included we are all so perfect after the event, you need a mass movement of people every week to wave the flag, we are being held hostage against our will we need to shout very loudly for help from our people, set up a crowd funder for our own media company that tells the truth, a media company that will not talk down our country, is it me or hearing about trans and alcoholic issues are the only news we get from the BBC, we need positive not negative. Oh and across the screens everyday 'Our country is being held hostage'.
Sorry to pour cold water on your idea however Westminster reserved broadcasting they would never grant a licence to a pro indy media outlet. Everyone sharing this podcast would be a good start
For years the threat of Scots leaving the union has been a leaver politically to squeeze investment from England to Scotland. Since Scots voted for the union. They are losing out on future investments.. Too late, too scared. And still playing Scotland the brave and waving flags..Why
lets unite agaist the SNP as they have done with us with Westminster Unite with only Independence seeking Candidates outwith the Scottish Numpty Party isolated them, the SNP will go down very fastly also back Salvo with a crowd funder move your donations and memberships to Salvo who have the plan for Independence
Well done lads n lassies… your arguments against the SNP will surely help Labour regain control in Scotland !…….Whether you like it or not the SNP is the Party that is keeping ordinary voters connected with the idea that Independence is possible & achievable… whether they’re capable or not !…..not everyone is ‘politicised’ or as well informed as you folks think you are & can change their vote with the wind !…….If Salvo has a plan .. is it out with of being put in place by the Scottish Parliament ?…if so let’s do it !…….. As for the continuous attacks on NS & all the things she could’ve n should’ve done…well fine….but why were they not done pre NS under Salmond ? No disrespect intended here….I’m pro Independence but for day to day living I’ll happily stick with the SNP at this time & stop the Unionists Partys taking over control once again in Scotland !……. Show me the path to Independence away from the SNP & how it’s achievable & I’ll be onboard……. In the meantime I’ll continue to fight our real enemies in the Tories…red or blue !…….. Forward to an Independent Scottish Socialist Republic ✊🏻🏴🇵🇸✊🏾
Hello indy team, gid win yesterday, but a big game next week..where a will be attending. But am stuck in hospital in Kirkcaldy the noo... Hopefully oot tomorrow.. Liebor say NHS, BAD IN SCOTLAND, empty beds on ma ward and empty around the xray and ultra scans where I am now waiting. So a canny see this scottish nhs bad in any way...was brought Thursday night and went straight to a bed.. Liebor talking pish as usual..
@allanalba aye feeling a lot better than a was, but seeing an speaking to the nurses, they say the opposite of what the english liebor party are saying in Scotland..just shows the pure contempt to all things scottish
The ripping given to sturgeon and the SNP from an independence supporter is a breath of fresh air. As a unionist you guys could talk alot of us round to your cause. As a unionist the SNP have become an own goal and thankfull weight round the independence movements neck.
You think Labour and Starmer are left wing? You think the tories are left wing? The English BBC.. MSM will subtly promote and give a voice to both of these and moreso will continually covertly and overtly undermine Scotland. Gee your heed a shak. If your Scottish..your the epitome of the Scottish cringe.
This upload reminds me of the many meetings I attended in the IS / SWP….. lots of anger n tub thumping from self proclaimed intellectuals on the need for Revolutionary Socialism & the rejection of the reformist ideology….& yes I bought into this wholesale for a very long time…..it became clear however that a Workers Revolution wasn’t waiting around the corner & day to day living wasn’t improving for us as a Class…..change was needed in the here n now so put more effort into the organising within the TUs that included working closely with the Labour Party…… apart from a few good Socialists within the Party it quickly became clear that Labour & their ‘plants’ in the TUs did not hold our interests nor Scottish interests to the fore…….The pro Independence SSP seemed the better n more obvious choice…. but as usual the knives came out as factions within fought to gain Party control..often siding with our opposition to discredit/destroy certain groups or individuals…….what a shame & a missed opportunity……..seeing this repeated again in this ‘debate’ ?!….. Watched this three times now hoping that I may have missed something where a clear roadmap is explained on achieving Independence….or the ‘plan’ that Salvo has is set out in simple terms ….unfortunately not….just the usual SNP bad & hateful attacks on NS…..I’m all for debate & don’t shy away from holding people accountable within the movement…. but all your actions are going to achieve is a fragmented movement lacking in unity & causing disassociation amongst ‘ordinary’ voters !…. Leaving an open door to the Tories…red or blue !….. It’s no wonder the SNP & other pro independence parties treat with caution & reject offers to join with your likes to create a United ? Front…..when you have colluded & conspired with Labour n the Tories..the Police n the Courts…. the msm…& ultimately…the State ! in your pursuit to discredit n destroy the SNP & individuals within !…… This isn’t progressive debate & just gives more strength to our opponents imo…. ✊🏻🏴🇵🇸✊🏾
@@papajahko7121 it's the SNP who have been colluding with the courts, police and now Brit Liebour. Look at the way they treated the main architect of Indy, AS and his defender CM! That's why so many former SNP Members including myself are sick of SNP Leadership power grab from members, refusing overtures of unity and puting party and niche policies before Indy!
@ Just to remind you, the SNP, love them or hate them, are the Party of Government in Scotland, they have to govern as well as pushing the Independence agenda !….. like it or not, England is our biggest trade partner & dealing with the Westminster mob is a necessary part of Government, as it will be when we gain Independence !…..Salmond was no different when leader of the Party… deals were made & broke under his leadership, notably his dealings with Cameron to get permission for IndyRef !… nothing new here ! May I also remind you of the hateful attacks on the Party & in particular NS by the British State, supported by all Unionists Partys, the MSM & shamefully by ex SNP members who colluded with the Police to bring charges against Party members !…..well orchestrated to bring down the Party & especially NS while the Westminster mob were robbing us blind ! A disgraceful act of treachery by a disgruntled few who were more concerned with fan boying AS while joining in with the forces that oppress our Nation ! As I say……Shameful ! ✊🏻🏴🇵🇸✊🏾
Wheesting for independence is over allowing those who have little to no interest in getting us independence is damaging to the movement and they have to be removed, this isn’t about indy fighting indy it's exposing those false indys damaging the movement
I'm with Kate. There might be some valid point hidden in here somewhere but until you've gone to school and learned to write the odd word, let alone moved onto something advanced like constructing an entire sentence, you're doing yourself no favours.
If, however, you've suffered a technical problem, I apologise. But my last point still stands, there's no credibility when you produce worse than gobbledygook.
Independence requires great grammar and petty pedantry not any kind of unity in approach. The collapse of Labour in Scotland is happening but let's not exploit that. And the fundamental reason we get shit politicos is the way they are selected and elected. Radical change is needed not in how politicians are scrutinised but in how they are selected. The strangle hold political parties have on who gets elected needs to be broken. But sadly tragically even, that ain't going to happen. Let's not talk anymore about Nicla but then waste a whole lot more time lambasting her. Independence is the only goal? So forget, or at least tone the fuck down the relentless left wing rhetoric. Of course the Nationalist movement cannot be unified, but not just because good leadership isn't in place. (or exist). But because there is no true breadth of political opinion in what passes for the Nationalist movement. And this obsession with Referendums overlooks the basic fact that they would most likely not be won.
Jeane Freeman - OBE, that’s outrageous! Why would she accept that? Why? That’s not a Scottish thing to do!
What? I didn't know that. She's gone right down in my estimations.
She was in the Labour Party and a very senior advisor to FM Jack the lad McConnell
Disgusting.
OBE for services to rehabilitation of offenders in 1996, perish the thought our quangos are created for the career paths of their inventors.... NUS Scotland chair in 1979(clever start), political career with Labour 1990s, Labour for Independence 2012. Ideologist or careerist? The question is, has she given it back/can you give these things back?
@@anniethenoo Of course, you can give it back but it doesn't look like she has.
Dougie MacLean's another one. I mean, Dougie MacLean... Aw, man.
Just out of curiosity, was this mentioned in the video?
Completely spot-on Phil! The ferry help offered by Stuart Ballantyne and refused by Sturgeon was an absolute travesty.
Caught this episode late. It was worth waiting for. She who can't be named should resign and take Swinney and the other traitors with her. They are all bereft of morals and principles! Wish I could redact the lot of them.
If voting changed anything they wouldn't let you do it.
They want to stay in power at all costs
Your shows are a joy every week,thanks guys.
Thank you
Thank you 🏴
Thank you for the straight talking. Opened up my eyes.yes why dont Scotland export all your goods, instead of letting your goods being handled by the english. 😢
Shocking discussion, what England is doing.its like apartheid against our humanity 😢
SNP failed to harness the power and momentum of the YES movement but instead fed their own egos achieving nothing.
And stole from the very same, anyone gone to prison yet ?.
That's understatement of the millennium
so sad to see, I left New Zealand to come over to Scotland to canvass for the YES team in Aberdeen, 5 weeks before the independence vote,
WHY THE FUCK DID I BOTHER??
Great debate Prism team exposing rundown of Scots Industry and routeing our Exports via England to benefit England.
Also Alan hit nail on head about the many other Holocaust victims who were from oppressed minorities! 👏
If Sturgeon is now saying that she couldn’t have done any more to achieve independence for Scotland, then she should retire from Scottish politics completely. Unless of course, she decides to join a unionist party, where I’m sure she would be much happier. And God help them.
Awesome. Actually watch it later. Brilliant content.
This freeport business is a dystopian nightmare in the making. I encourage everyone to watch Plastic Pills' (a philosophy channel) video on the subject - "it's cheaper to buy a political party than it is to buy a Rembrandt."
Previous comment didn't post so apologies if this appears twice.
The Hanseatic League had links with Scotland, including Shetland.
All she could have done under British rules. To hell with British rules. Scottish rules are the only rules you have to obey. Just to add you guys know your stuff. Get angry get it done.
I don't see why they can't just hold a referendum. They could have done this after the Brexit result.
I am a patriot through and through until my dying day, but fighting amongst ourselves is what we are good at, I will never see my country free, hard truths need to be spoken about, how do you get out of a hostage situation when your hands are tied, what could Nicola do half the country feel they need Daddy England to support them, how could she feel confident in that? My self included we are all so perfect after the event, you need a mass movement of people every week to wave the flag, we are being held hostage against our will we need to shout very loudly for help from our people, set up a crowd funder for our own media company that tells the truth, a media company that will not talk down our country, is it me or hearing about trans and alcoholic issues are the only news we get from the BBC, we need positive not negative. Oh and across the screens everyday 'Our country is being held hostage'.
Sorry to pour cold water on your idea however Westminster reserved broadcasting they would never grant a licence to a pro indy media outlet. Everyone sharing this podcast would be a good start
Shysterism 😂 great show today everyone
And some folk are holding tight onto the blinkers.....🤦♀️
For years the threat of Scots leaving the union has been a leaver politically to squeeze investment from England to Scotland. Since Scots voted for the union. They are losing out on future investments.. Too late, too scared. And still playing Scotland the brave and waving flags..Why
lets unite agaist the SNP as they have done with us with Westminster Unite with only Independence seeking Candidates outwith the Scottish Numpty Party isolated them, the SNP will go down very fastly also back Salvo with a crowd funder move your donations and memberships to Salvo who have the plan for Independence
Well done lads n lassies… your arguments against the SNP will surely help Labour regain control in Scotland !…….Whether you like it or not the SNP is the Party that is keeping ordinary voters connected with the idea that Independence is possible & achievable… whether they’re capable or not !…..not everyone is ‘politicised’ or as well informed as you folks think you are & can change their vote with the wind !…….If Salvo has a plan .. is it out with of being put in place by the Scottish Parliament ?…if so let’s do it !……..
As for the continuous attacks on NS & all the things she could’ve n should’ve done…well fine….but why were they not done pre NS under Salmond ?
No disrespect intended here….I’m pro Independence but for day to day living I’ll happily stick with the SNP at this time & stop the Unionists Partys taking over control once again in Scotland !…….
Show me the path to Independence away from the SNP & how it’s achievable & I’ll be onboard…….
In the meantime I’ll continue to fight our real enemies in the Tories…red or blue !……..
Forward to an Independent Scottish Socialist Republic ✊🏻🏴🇵🇸✊🏾
Another educational program, many thanks
Another brilliant thought provoking programme. I'm bereft and racing in equal measure at SNP's betrayal of Scotland.
Hello indy team, gid win yesterday, but a big game next week..where a will be attending. But am stuck in hospital in Kirkcaldy the noo...
Hopefully oot tomorrow..
Liebor say NHS, BAD IN SCOTLAND, empty beds on ma ward and empty around the xray and ultra scans where I am now waiting.
So a canny see this scottish nhs bad in any way...was brought Thursday night and went straight to a bed..
Liebor talking pish as usual..
Hope you have a speedy recovery
@allanalba aye feeling a lot better than a was, but seeing an speaking to the nurses, they say the opposite of what the english liebor party are saying in Scotland..just shows the pure contempt to all things scottish
Get well soon.
Infultration that's the real reason.
Quite right about exports via English ports but don’t forget potential for transfer pricing.
Same old shit another day🤬
Catch-up time. Hi all.
The ripping given to sturgeon and the SNP from an independence supporter is a breath of fresh air. As a unionist you guys could talk alot of us round to your cause. As a unionist the SNP have become an own goal and thankfull weight round the independence movements neck.
If you appreciate what's been said ie the power of Scotland..the best you can do is start to promote this show and it's info.
Lloyd Quinan seriously thinks the BBC & ITV are Right Wing , give us strength.😂
You think Labour and Starmer are left wing? You think the tories are left wing? The English BBC.. MSM will subtly promote and give a voice to both of these and moreso will continually covertly and overtly undermine Scotland. Gee your heed a shak. If your Scottish..your the epitome of the Scottish cringe.
Have you ever worked for them ?
@@LloydQuinan-t5o You have.
Vote will be split next year, not sure i can vote for any of them
Raging, no racing!😂
This upload reminds me of the many meetings I attended in the IS / SWP….. lots of anger n tub thumping from self proclaimed intellectuals on the need for Revolutionary Socialism & the rejection of the reformist ideology….& yes I bought into this wholesale for a very long time…..it became clear however that a Workers Revolution wasn’t waiting around the corner & day to day living wasn’t improving for us as a Class…..change was needed in the here n now so put more effort into the organising within the TUs that included working closely with the Labour Party…… apart from a few good Socialists within the Party it quickly became clear that Labour & their ‘plants’ in the TUs did not hold our interests nor Scottish interests to the fore…….The pro Independence SSP seemed the better n more obvious choice…. but as usual the knives came out as factions within fought to gain Party control..often siding with our opposition to discredit/destroy certain groups or individuals…….what a shame & a missed opportunity……..seeing this repeated again in this ‘debate’ ?!…..
Watched this three times now hoping that I may have missed something where a clear roadmap is explained on achieving Independence….or the ‘plan’ that Salvo has is set out in simple terms ….unfortunately not….just the usual SNP bad & hateful attacks on NS…..I’m all for debate & don’t shy away from holding people accountable within the movement…. but all your actions are going to achieve is a fragmented movement lacking in unity & causing disassociation amongst ‘ordinary’ voters !…. Leaving an open door to the Tories…red or blue !…..
It’s no wonder the SNP & other pro independence parties treat with caution & reject offers to join with your likes to create a United ? Front…..when you have colluded & conspired with Labour n the Tories..the Police n the Courts…. the msm…& ultimately…the State ! in your pursuit to discredit n destroy the SNP & individuals within !…… This isn’t progressive debate & just gives more strength to our opponents imo….
✊🏻🏴🇵🇸✊🏾
I would disagree
British leftism is an infantile disorder…VI Lenin
@@papajahko7121 it's the SNP who have been colluding with the courts, police and now Brit Liebour.
Look at the way they treated the main architect of Indy, AS and his defender CM!
That's why so many former SNP Members including myself are sick of SNP Leadership power grab from members, refusing overtures of unity and puting party and niche policies before Indy!
@ Just to remind you, the SNP, love them or hate them, are the Party of Government in Scotland, they have to govern as well as pushing the Independence agenda !….. like it or not, England is our biggest trade partner & dealing with the Westminster mob is a necessary part of Government, as it will be when we gain Independence !…..Salmond was no different when leader of the Party… deals were made & broke under his leadership, notably his dealings with Cameron to get permission for IndyRef !… nothing new here !
May I also remind you of the hateful attacks on the Party & in particular NS by the British State, supported by all Unionists Partys, the MSM & shamefully by ex SNP members who colluded with the Police to bring charges against Party members !…..well orchestrated to bring down the Party & especially NS while the Westminster mob were robbing us blind !
A disgraceful act of treachery by a disgruntled few who were more concerned with fan boying AS while joining in with the forces that oppress our Nation !
As I say……Shameful !
✊🏻🏴🇵🇸✊🏾
@@LloydQuinan-t5o I agree….. but infantile rants by angry wee men & woman who think they ken better are better ignored !
Nuff sed 🙄
Innumerable times you can take the you know what out of the Scots
Better late than never at 16:50
Glasgow airport?
new petition to remove John Swinney starts 4th Feb 2025 in my name find on 38 degrees
Ib shut up q d stop attacking each other we will never achieve independence 2hile qll ypu half wits keep arguing FFS
Wheesting for independence is over allowing those who have little to no interest in getting us independence is damaging to the movement and they have to be removed, this isn’t about indy fighting indy it's exposing those false indys damaging the movement
And meanwhile, you can't even write a comprehensible sentence. What on earth did you say?? Never mind, I'm sure it was a lot of rubbish. 😂
I'm with Kate. There might be some valid point hidden in here somewhere but until you've gone to school and learned to write the odd word, let alone moved onto something advanced like constructing an entire sentence, you're doing yourself no favours.
If, however, you've suffered a technical problem, I apologise. But my last point still stands, there's no credibility when you produce worse than gobbledygook.
Independence requires great grammar and petty pedantry not any kind of unity in approach.
The collapse of Labour in Scotland is happening but let's not exploit that.
And the fundamental reason we get shit politicos is the way they are selected and elected.
Radical change is needed not in how politicians are scrutinised but in how they are selected.
The strangle hold political parties have on who gets elected needs to be broken. But sadly tragically even, that ain't going to happen.
Let's not talk anymore about Nicla but then waste a whole lot more time lambasting her.
Independence is the only goal?
So forget, or at least tone the fuck down the relentless left wing rhetoric.
Of course the Nationalist movement cannot be unified, but not just because good leadership isn't in place. (or exist).
But because there is no true breadth of political opinion in what passes for the Nationalist movement.
And this obsession with Referendums overlooks the basic fact that they would most likely not be won.