Love this. Frans raises such an important point that is easily missed: the role of the legacy media in shaping public opinion. I hope the editors of the legacy media are watching.
I feel furtunate to see the end of Apartheid, the dawn of democracy and now how our country is coming together and being ruled with the outlook for everyone regardless of culture. Im proud to be South African and what we can achieve when we stand together. I'm not diselusi9ned that we still have problems yes but this is the beginning. The seed for this tree to grow which we now can nurture to become strong and stay healthy. ❤❤❤
Most valid point here.... Zuma did not attract support due to his radical policies it was due to his perceived persecution. Very important point going forward.
First time listening to this man,but he has to be my favourite guest. Objective and Pragmatic. 🔥🤝 I wonder how does Mike feel sitting next to such a wise man.
Well done to the ANC and the DA, plus the other GNU parties, for making this thing work. We needed mature leaders and we thank God that this is what we got
Great idea. Things are a lot more positive than many of us think, which this short highlights so well. The "radicalization of society" is a real threat though, it's everywhere.
One of the best things about our Constitution (in my opinion) is that it requires or gives only 2 weeks to form a government after an election and where there is a proportional system that we have. The worst thing could be the kind of time given to political parties in Europe to form their coalitions.
@@Anonuser1895 @MediaCentre-cy1tf @mthulisidube5502 The issue of Mashatile and Lesufi is obviously in play. Lesufi would not be behaving the way he is if Mashatile hasn't sanctioned it. The ANC always gets itself into trouble by appointing a deputy president from the opposite faction. This attempt at unity always ends up in a bad outcome for the ANC. Think of Zuma as deputy to Mbeki, Ramphosa as deputy to Zuma and now Mashatile as deputy to Ramaphosa. We are in a honeymoon period but the Mashatile faction will poke the bruise until the ANC has to make a choice. This could derail the GNU project, but it could also spell the end of the ANC as I don't believe that the ANC carries the political capital it used to have to survive another public death battle. The only question is whether this will happen at the next ANC elective conference in 2027 or if it will happen before then.
I have read that the ANC MP’s are worried that their coalition partners in the GNU are starting to already show them up by doing a more competent and diligent job in the positions given to them by President Ramaphosa. South Africans will be looking at the performance of the various departments and which political parties lead them ! This will most definitely influence the outcome of next elections in 5 years time as has happened in 2024. Also the EFF and those parties which also have disruptive and dividing politics (which have added to their declining appeal to the vast majority of people in SA )will also see the consequences of their wrongdoings for the good of this country continue in being relevant for sure.
Every party declined. The DA also declined in overall numbers. The growth percentage wise because of the low voter turnout. The ANC under ramaphosa is dividing itself. Ramaphosa won't last in the 2027 elective congress if the anc continues to loose support in the next municipal elections in 2026. The ANC doesn't need the DA to be in government. The mk anf eff party's are more popular than the DA. If ramaphosa is gone I personally don't see this da and anc coalition lasting. The eff is a necessary voice in South Africa. Alot of what they saying is true in my opinion.I personality dislike many DA parties like scrapping nsfas, scrapping minimum wage etc. Looking at the ministries, the DA is in control of ministries that aren't very visible.agriculcuture and public infrastructure. Most voters might not notice any policy changes here. Or even feel them in their day to day life. Gwarube seems to be having the Bela bill over her head. With the support of the unions and prominent politicians pushing it. I think ramaphosa will sign it. Looking at this election it is clear that black people would rather not vote then vote DA. The huge looses for the anc was because of mk and pa then the DA. The moonshootpact failed to even get 27 percent. The ANC has one last chance to do good. If they don't take it. More factions will brake away and kill the anc even more
The dark horse in the GNU is Paul Mashatile and his Gauteng gangsters. Seems it's with Mashatile's silent approval that Lesufi denies the national ANC policy directive for the GPU. Both Mashatile and Lesufi seems to have a secret (love) affair with the EFF?
I think RSA needs to focus on next election. If Cyril Ramaphosa leaves Paul Mashitile will become President. This will result in a MK, EFF and ANC in GNU.
The point about Zuma is well made, and is born out by the much poorer showing by MK at subsequent local elections, where service delivery is, perceptually, a much more important issue
What are you talking about. The mk has only be existing for 7 months. They have never participated in a local election. The local elections are in 2026
ANC should move a way from a liberation party and loyalty to old party members. If they cannot adapt they will die. If they now, in the GNU start to deliver to the people they may survive. There for the ANC must get rid of ministers who is still in their comfortable do-nothing zone and replace them with doers, stop talking as talking is cheap.
I have grown to understand that if you have a strong supporter base, you cannot just ditch them. The DA discovered this when they had Mmusi in charge, so they retreated quickly. Don't think that the ANC will ditch the liberation movement tag anytime soon. On the issue of useless ministers, I think that this has already started but will have to gather pace or it could be disastrous for the ANC.
Scary to think of Paul mashatile as our president. Only God can help us if this takes place. We need to keep Mr Ramaphosa in as our president. Mr mashatile would definitely form an mk eff and anc coalition.
I dont know. Didnt Mashatile come out the other day and say that SAA must be sold to the private sector? If he was a real communist like EFF and MK, why would he say that?
I listen to this articulate, intelligent and data driven commentator attribute his own thinking to the ANC. I struggle to understand how this is NOT projection on his part given the abysmal and F grade bunch who populate the ANC. Are they really as deliberate in their thinking as “let’s reflect on what Lenin would do?” or do they just see the DA with their non competing voters, as simply as the most likely extension of their meal ticket and bludgeon on accordingly?
I think that both are true. The only thing that you can be sure of is that the ANC leaders don't want to lose their income streams, which are threatened by a loss of power. They also realise that they can only preserve their power by doing their jobs better and getting more votes.
If you're on my social media platforms, follow me, and I will unpack this guy further because he makes a lot of sense, I hope the host will learn one or two things from him😮.
I’m listening to this articulate, intelligent and data driven commentator attribute his own thinking to the ANC. I am struggling to understand how this is NOT projection on his part given the abysmal and F grade bunch who populate the ANC. Are they really as clever in their thinking as “reflecting on Lenin” or do they just see the DA as simply as the most likely extension of their meal ticket?
A description of the ANC revolutionary strategy by Mr Cronje demonstrates why the ANC will continue to lose votes in favour of the EFF and MK. I wish 2026 was 2029.
If we find ourselves in a situation where the GNU holds, Dr. Cronje intimated this could be the status quo for a very long time to come. However, if we assume that the South African public remain moderate and we continue to have an uptick in the economy with more jobs, higher living standard etc., is there not a risk that with the decline in these populist parties like EFF and MK that the ANC could recover their lost votes, regain their majority and we start from square one all over again?
Hopefully in that scenario the ANC will have learned from its mistakes and transformed into a modernised, “renewed” party. Also, by that time, the voters who would have returned to the ANC would be much less loyal, meaning the ANC wouldn’t just be able to run the country badly and expect large support
Lesufi is the face of corruption. Using racism charges as a smokescreen. We see him. Rhamaphosa is like TV homicide detective Columbo who uses his humble ways and ingenuous demeanor to winkle out what is on the go and the way out. A bit like Zuma as well. Which means he knows and is wary of Lesufi, Paul and other MK Trojans.
I think that Trump and Zuma they are geniuses at building their cults and deserve the credit for doing this devious work. If it was that easy to do, all politicians would do it but they don't have the skills to do it. Underestimate Trump and Zuma at your peril.
It seems that anc did not understand how mk was operating, he loves the media so his popularity will grow. We should give him no attention at all in future
Nho, Ramaphosa is nothing but a swindler man, 😅😂. I think the success of the coalition depends on who has what, if I was an entrepreneur and my products in the market during the duration of the coalition do well _ that would be success, same as the poo that runs in streets of poor communities is gone during this coalition, that would be success, the job numbers etc. The electricity issue I think loadshedding was just mischievous management and wrong appointments otherwise the skill has been there to get it under control. For me the best coalition would have been between DA and Eff but they don't have numbers, mainly because whatever would be implemented would be as a consequence of strong lobbying and discussions and compromise, this coalition is a Capitalists agenda, nothing else.
The MK will get stronger, it is getting more backing, and will do well on LGE, and is building strong. You needed intellectuals in Parly, so MK can strategies and talk with information. Dr Hlophe is best to lead MK in Parly, & learn the political ropes from Zuma.
Are they. Let look at the by-elections. Nope. Evan during Thier hype off the national election they are losing support in the by-elections. 🤔🤔🤔🤷🏽. Want could that mean🤔🤔🤔🤷🏽. I don't know 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔....
Funny how Cronje doesn't mention the methods the ANC employed to attain those figures under Mbeki. Yes, it looks nice on paper, but was done behind the scenes, could well be one of the corner stones of the fall of the country.
I hope the interviewer is a multi millionaire as he like positioning himself as the face of business... But by just mere review, he's not shrewd enough to run any successful business that can qualify to be called "the business community". A class issue is a real thing. Is not what you aspire to be. If you not in those boardroom that where Rand shifting decisions are made my guy you just a wannabe spectator.
The interviewer is a normal oke with a normal life. By your judgment my shrewdness leaves a lot to be desired, so I will leave it to senior board members at large corporations who have never started a business or taken a risk to represent business. I will just, luckily enough, be able to ask the right questions despite my lack of "shrewdness". I am just a sad wannabe spectator.
After Frans spent a few minutes outlining why we should not underestimate Zuma and how savvy he is, Mike says "Yeah, he's made a career out of being a victim". I call these Mikesims😂😂😂
He forgot to say 'why the GNU will work for us'. The is you got your man Ramaphosa in the ANC now you got your racist DA party in government, a good package for you racists
We are about to get some decent growth, lower interest rates and decreased unemployment by the end of this year. Improved prosperity is where the "GNU will work for us".
You must get up and move on...stop sit and sulk about racism..racism...SA is moving forward...and you are left behind thinking DA is racist....must fight must fight..racism racisim ...get away from loosers eff and move forward in life...
Always pragmatic, positive and never afraid to go against the tide. Keep it up Dr. Frans.
Yay!!! I’ve been waiting for someone to chat to Dr Frans Cronje since the elections. Thanks so much Mike!!
It is always a treat to speak to Frans Cronje!
@@mikesham3204 thanks for arranging it. I can listen to him daily - perhaps you can twist his arm. Even if it’s just about commenting on news events 😉
Finally! Been waiting for Dr Cronje's analysis and it dropped. Good stuff. Pay attention to this man.
I fully agree with your comments, Frans Cronje is a legend.
Thank you Mike and Dr Cronje. That is positive. The GNU feels right barring the other gremlins. I hope it continues as our trajectory in perpetuity.
It was our pleasure, it is always great to hear from Frans Cronje.
Thank you Mr Sham I am so pleased to see Mr Cronje on your show. Mr Cronje your words of wisdom are welcome! God bless our country
Love this. Frans raises such an important point that is easily missed: the role of the legacy media in shaping public opinion. I hope the editors of the legacy media are watching.
MSM always trying to control the narrative and the most destructive force in the whole world. I switched off long ago!
I feel furtunate to see the end of Apartheid, the dawn of democracy and now how our country is coming together and being ruled with the outlook for everyone regardless of culture. Im proud to be South African and what we can achieve when we stand together. I'm not diselusi9ned that we still have problems yes but this is the beginning. The seed for this tree to grow which we now can nurture to become strong and stay healthy. ❤❤❤
Stay positive!
Thank you Frans Cronje on your show . Have been listening to him for a couple years. Never wrong and to the point.
This was the best and positive analysis by far… Dr Cronje
Been waiting for this one !!! 🎉🎉🎉
Most valid point here.... Zuma did not attract support due to his radical policies it was due to his perceived persecution. Very important point going forward.
@@markwinter7511 🎯
Imagine multiplying that by every black person in the country as with the perception that black people can't govern will do to the DA. A fatal mistake
@sabeloshabangu1485 he wasn't persecuted by the da and, well to be honest, we're still waiting on the governance issue.
When Mandela said it doesn't matter if the cat is black or white, as long as it can catch mouse.....he was talking about Dr Fran's
Dr Cronje, please do a poll after 100 days to compare to the election results
Love listening to Dr Cronje and hearing his insights.
Thanks Mike and Dr Cronje. I'm not going to write an essay. It was a very illuminating interview for me. I look forward to hearing more.
As always, Dr Frans Cronje delivers brilliant insights.
Been waiting forever for Frans to quash all the rumours
Dr Frans Cronje is a legend!
Yet again our country avoided bloodshed. I have renewed hope
Bloodshed from wat?.who would be fighting
@@Tebogo16v bloodshed from political violence after the election results, which thankfully has not occured (yet).
First time listening to this man,but he has to be my favourite guest.
Objective and Pragmatic.
🔥🤝
I wonder how does Mike feel sitting next to such a wise man.
Always much wisdom from Frans
And the host!
My favorite political analyst.
The best in the country. He has been right for 15 years.
Excellent discussion, thanks Gents
Thank you so much, it is wonderful to hear from Frans Cronje.
Mr cronjie love your comments ,truly a person who knows what's going on thanks
Great interview. Frans Cronje is the go to opinion regarding politics. Very interesting.
Thank you and I agree with you about Frans!
Fantastic insight and analysis by Frans Cronje - thank you !
That man is cooking! Let him cook!🔥🔥
This guy is brilliant
Always interesting perspectives from Dr Cronjé. I think if the ANC know what they are doing then their playbook is screwed up.
Much respect Frans ☀️🌴
Been waiting for this interview with Frans Cronje an opinion i trust and am interested in
Your patience and trust have been rewarded. I hope that you enjoyed this discussion as much as I did.
@mikesham3204 thank you Mike great interview
Thanks Mike for another great interview!! 💯✅👍
Thank you for your comment
Good one.
Checked watch as soon as I saw Frans' name
You should do that with all of our interviews!
@@mikesham3204 i admit I do...
Well done to the ANC and the DA, plus the other GNU parties, for making this thing work. We needed mature leaders and we thank God that this is what we got
Great analysis, thank you gentlemen!🎉🎉🎉🎉❤
Really enjoy listening to Dr Frans Cronje. Thank you for bringing him on. BTW good short between 36.40 to 38.33 ( @ speed 1.25x)
Thank you for the feedback, we will cut that short!
Great idea. Things are a lot more positive than many of us think, which this short highlights so well. The "radicalization of society" is a real threat though, it's everywhere.
One of the best things about our Constitution (in my opinion) is that it requires or gives only 2 weeks to form a government after an election and where there is a proportional system that we have. The worst thing could be the kind of time given to political parties in Europe to form their coalitions.
Political maturity!!!
Look at how Frans reserved his comments on the Deputy President, very wise move compared to the careless utterances of most in the far right!
I tried to get him to comment but Frans wouldn't bite.
Why did Frans refuse to comment on Mashitile? I don’t understand why he was so tight-lipped?
We know Paul by his track record - Alex Mafia comes to mind - and why Lesufi is so emboldened.
@@Anonuser1895 @MediaCentre-cy1tf @mthulisidube5502 The issue of Mashatile and Lesufi is obviously in play. Lesufi would not be behaving the way he is if Mashatile hasn't sanctioned it. The ANC always gets itself into trouble by appointing a deputy president from the opposite faction. This attempt at unity always ends up in a bad outcome for the ANC.
Think of Zuma as deputy to Mbeki, Ramphosa as deputy to Zuma and now Mashatile as deputy to Ramaphosa.
We are in a honeymoon period but the Mashatile faction will poke the bruise until the ANC has to make a choice. This could derail the GNU project, but it could also spell the end of the ANC as I don't believe that the ANC carries the political capital it used to have to survive another public death battle. The only question is whether this will happen at the next ANC elective conference in 2027 or if it will happen before then.
@@mikesham3204 I agree with your views 100%, but do you know why Dr. Cronje refused to comment on it?
Dankie Dr Frans jy maak soveel
“ sense”
I like how Dr Frans Cronje analyses 👌🏾
We all do!
I have read that the ANC MP’s are worried that their coalition partners in the GNU are starting to already show them up by doing a more competent and diligent job in the positions given to them by President Ramaphosa. South Africans will be looking at the performance of the various departments and which political parties lead them ! This will most definitely influence the outcome of next elections in 5 years time as has happened in 2024. Also the EFF and those parties which also have disruptive and dividing politics (which have added to their declining appeal to the vast majority of people in SA )will also see the consequences of their wrongdoings for the good of this country continue in being relevant for sure.
This is a massive issue that could threaten the GNU.
Every party declined. The DA also declined in overall numbers. The growth percentage wise because of the low voter turnout.
The ANC under ramaphosa is dividing itself. Ramaphosa won't last in the 2027 elective congress if the anc continues to loose support in the next municipal elections in 2026.
The ANC doesn't need the DA to be in government. The mk anf eff party's are more popular than the DA. If ramaphosa is gone I personally don't see this da and anc coalition lasting.
The eff is a necessary voice in South Africa. Alot of what they saying is true in my opinion.I personality dislike many DA parties like scrapping nsfas, scrapping minimum wage etc.
Looking at the ministries, the DA is in control of ministries that aren't very visible.agriculcuture and public infrastructure. Most voters might not notice any policy changes here. Or even feel them in their day to day life. Gwarube seems to be having the Bela bill over her head. With the support of the unions and prominent politicians pushing it. I think ramaphosa will sign it.
Looking at this election it is clear that black people would rather not vote then vote DA. The huge looses for the anc was because of mk and pa then the DA.
The moonshootpact failed to even get 27 percent.
The ANC has one last chance to do good. If they don't take it. More factions will brake away and kill the anc even more
And yet, we in Roodepoort had no power for 4 hours on Monday . No power for more than 12 hours yesterday.
And that's only this week
Yes, I heard you are having problems over that side. Did you find out why? It definitely wasnt load shedding..
Great discussion
I would have preferred he answered your question on Paul Mashitile.
Yes me too.
Maybe a sign that PM is not as extreme as some think he is...
Very clever man indeed
I couldn't agree with you more!
The dark horse in the GNU is Paul Mashatile and his Gauteng gangsters.
Seems it's with Mashatile's silent approval that Lesufi denies the national ANC policy directive for the GPU.
Both Mashatile and Lesufi seems to have a secret (love) affair with the EFF?
So what's wrong with them bring close to the eff?
I think RSA needs to focus on next election. If Cyril Ramaphosa leaves Paul Mashitile will become President. This will result in a MK, EFF and ANC in GNU.
Mashatile should NEVER have superceded the IFP leader, supported by 11 parties as their Presidential nominee. MASHATILE MUST GO (gwede too)
@@ReachforRecoveryStellenboschSothe anc is still the biggest party, the eff and mk are still bigger that the DA
I agree with a lot. But disagree with a lot. E.g. ANC does not have the calibre of people of the first 10 years. Mandela, Mbeki, Manuel and others.
The point about Zuma is well made, and is born out by the much poorer showing by MK at subsequent local elections, where service delivery is, perceptually, a much more important issue
What are you talking about. The mk has only be existing for 7 months. They have never participated in a local election. The local elections are in 2026
I would like to know what happens should Zuma expire he is getting on in age. Does the MK party expire as well
Very likely. Current by-elections show this
Yes
We discussed this in the interview and Frans was clear that MK will expire with him.
@@mikesham3204 I don't think anyone with oxygen going to their brain could even doubt this
ANC should move a way from a liberation party and loyalty to old party members. If they cannot adapt they will die. If they now, in the GNU start to deliver to the people they may survive. There for the ANC must get rid of ministers who is still in their comfortable do-nothing zone and replace them with doers, stop talking as talking is cheap.
I have grown to understand that if you have a strong supporter base, you cannot just ditch them. The DA discovered this when they had Mmusi in charge, so they retreated quickly. Don't think that the ANC will ditch the liberation movement tag anytime soon. On the issue of useless ministers, I think that this has already started but will have to gather pace or it could be disastrous for the ANC.
Scary to think of Paul mashatile as our president. Only God can help us if this takes place. We need to keep Mr Ramaphosa in as our president. Mr mashatile would definitely form an mk eff and anc coalition.
Yep and Paul supports Lesufi - Alex Mafia.
Mashatile must go....there's enough dirt to get him tossed put.
I dont know. Didnt Mashatile come out the other day and say that SAA must be sold to the private sector? If he was a real communist like EFF and MK, why would he say that?
@@MediaCentre-cy1tf have u ever set foot in Alexander?
Wats wrong with the coalition. The people also voted for them moss
Lekke Frans…jou Yster
Frans Cronje…..brilliant and ever the measured diplomat……sidestepped the question about Paul Mashitile, and I’m curious???
I listen to this articulate, intelligent and data driven commentator attribute his own thinking to the ANC. I struggle to understand how this is NOT projection on his part given the abysmal and F grade bunch who populate the ANC. Are they really as deliberate in their thinking as “let’s reflect on what Lenin would do?” or do they just see the DA with their non competing voters, as simply as the most likely extension of their meal ticket and bludgeon on accordingly?
I think that both are true. The only thing that you can be sure of is that the ANC leaders don't want to lose their income streams, which are threatened by a loss of power. They also realise that they can only preserve their power by doing their jobs better and getting more votes.
If you're on my social media platforms, follow me, and I will unpack this guy further because he makes a lot of sense, I hope the host will learn one or two things from him😮.
I’m listening to this articulate, intelligent and data driven commentator attribute his own thinking to the ANC. I am struggling to understand how this is NOT projection on his part given the abysmal and F grade bunch who populate the ANC. Are they really as clever in their thinking as “reflecting on Lenin” or do they just see the DA as simply as the most likely extension of their meal ticket?
I want nothing to do with mk of eff its bad enough we are stuck with anc
Yes!!! It is the only viable solution for our country.
A description of the ANC revolutionary strategy by Mr Cronje demonstrates why the ANC will continue to lose votes in favour of the EFF and MK. I wish 2026 was 2029.
If we find ourselves in a situation where the GNU holds, Dr. Cronje intimated this could be the status quo for a very long time to come.
However, if we assume that the South African public remain moderate and we continue to have an uptick in the economy with more jobs, higher living standard etc., is there not a risk that with the decline in these populist parties like EFF and MK that the ANC could recover their lost votes, regain their majority and we start from square one all over again?
I think that you are correct in your analysis, but it is better than the alternative!
Hopefully in that scenario the ANC will have learned from its mistakes and transformed into a modernised, “renewed” party. Also, by that time, the voters who would have returned to the ANC would be much less loyal, meaning the ANC wouldn’t just be able to run the country badly and expect large support
@@literallyjustthings9227 I think it is naive of anyone to think the ANC will change. In my opinion, the ANC is totally broken and it is irreparable.
Mbalula used to give the impression of bumbling blithering idiot, but now he is demonstrating remarkable political maturity and wisdom.
Lesufi is the face of corruption. Using racism charges as a smokescreen. We see him. Rhamaphosa is like TV homicide detective Columbo who uses his humble ways and ingenuous demeanor to winkle out what is on the go and the way out. A bit like Zuma as well. Which means he knows and is wary of Lesufi, Paul and other MK Trojans.
These are very astute observations.
Frans "Gemoedsrus" Cronje
We give Trump and Zuma far too much credit. They are nothing without their cult following.
I think that Trump and Zuma they are geniuses at building their cults and deserve the credit for doing this devious work. If it was that easy to do, all politicians would do it but they don't have the skills to do it. Underestimate Trump and Zuma at your peril.
It seems that anc did not understand how mk was operating, he loves the media so his popularity will grow. We should give him no attention at all in future
Nho, Ramaphosa is nothing but a swindler man, 😅😂.
I think the success of the coalition depends on who has what, if I was an entrepreneur and my products in the market during the duration of the coalition do well _ that would be success, same as the poo that runs in streets of poor communities is gone during this coalition, that would be success, the job numbers etc.
The electricity issue I think loadshedding was just mischievous management and wrong appointments otherwise the skill has been there to get it under control.
For me the best coalition would have been between DA and Eff but they don't have numbers, mainly because whatever would be implemented would be as a consequence of strong lobbying and discussions and compromise, this coalition is a Capitalists agenda, nothing else.
Wishful thinking, not until someone took the mic off the mouth of this silly Cape Town woman.
There's no one oppressing anymore that is long long gone, wake up
So Zuma keeps using Stalingrad tactics to cast himself in the role of a persecuted victim. That’s called knowing your electoral base.
Oppressors are desperate shame
The MK will get stronger, it is getting more backing, and will do well on LGE, and is building strong.
You needed intellectuals in Parly, so MK can strategies and talk with information. Dr Hlophe is best to lead MK in Parly, & learn the political ropes from Zuma.
Hlophe is a tribalist, impeached ex Judge, hater of Roman/Dutch/English law, hater of our constitution and lacking in any credibility whatsoever.
Are they. Let look at the by-elections.
Nope.
Evan during Thier hype off the national election they are losing support in the by-elections. 🤔🤔🤔🤷🏽. Want could that mean🤔🤔🤔🤷🏽. I don't know 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔....
Shame on you for bringing up oppression. That's all in the past
Funny how Cronje doesn't mention the methods the ANC employed to attain those figures under Mbeki. Yes, it looks nice on paper, but was done behind the scenes, could well be one of the corner stones of the fall of the country.
I hope the interviewer is a multi millionaire as he like positioning himself as the face of business... But by just mere review, he's not shrewd enough to run any successful business that can qualify to be called "the business community". A class issue is a real thing. Is not what you aspire to be. If you not in those boardroom that where Rand shifting decisions are made my guy you just a wannabe spectator.
The interviewer is a normal oke with a normal life. By your judgment my shrewdness leaves a lot to be desired, so I will leave it to senior board members at large corporations who have never started a business or taken a risk to represent business. I will just, luckily enough, be able to ask the right questions despite my lack of "shrewdness".
I am just a sad wannabe spectator.
After Frans spent a few minutes outlining why we should not underestimate Zuma and how savvy he is, Mike says "Yeah, he's made a career out of being a victim".
I call these Mikesims😂😂😂
He forgot to say 'why the GNU will work for us'. The is you got your man Ramaphosa in the ANC now you got your racist DA party in government, a good package for you racists
We are about to get some decent growth, lower interest rates and decreased unemployment by the end of this year. Improved prosperity is where the "GNU will work for us".
You must get up and move on...stop sit and sulk about racism..racism...SA is moving forward...and you are left behind thinking DA is racist....must fight must fight..racism racisim
...get away from loosers eff and move forward in life...
@@Phillip-oo2ft It's funny that you practice racism everyday and even teach your little rats to be racist but you don't want to be labelled as racists
Oppressors are desperate shame
We are!
Oppressors are desperate shame
Are you for real,never positive.