(92)The Parliament Class
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- In today's episode of Truth OR Myth Beta, we're taking a look at the Parliament Class, as first seen in Star Trek: Lower Decks! I hope you enjoy!
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Sometimes I think that your beta explanations are far much better than canon. Paramount should give you a job.
Happy 200 Anniversary Truth or Myth.
Thank you SO much David! :)
@TriAngulum Audio Studios Can’t wait to your next video.
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios 200, Wow! Well done. A year late, but well done.
The Parliament Class - one of the most gorgoeus ships I have seen come from Lower Decks alongside the Titan.
I have not watched a single episode of this show not have any plans on doing so just yet, what I have seen is from Twitter and as soon as I saw the Parliament class I thought yes, thats a ship I like.
I think what I like about the look is the ship design seems to be a combination of several starships in all, some parts steamrunner, some parts sovereign, a little bit of nebula and akira.
Though me being me I would wounder what the registry of the first of the class is.
Starfleet will always be ill-prepared for whatever is out there, there will always be some species more powerful out there they have yet to encounter, and their approach of "Starfleet doesn't fire first" and waiting for shields to be almost collapsed before firing back on their attackers needs to be evaluated for the safety of crews especially in deep space, if an enemy fires at least once on your ship after you have tried all hailing frequencies and sucn ahd got no response, they fire, do not wait for shields to be down to 50% before returning fire, my goodness, who comes up with these tactics?
Rant over with, ha ha
What I have enjoyed having a laugh at and I mean no disrespect to anyoje but alot of people complaining about this ship in STO not being good for tactical though the ship is a cruiser survey ship, the name gives it away, it is focused more on engineering and science than tactical, no problem for me I love science engineering builds more in favour rather than DPS gone mad, you need people to keep those firing off dps in the fight afterall.
Another slight rant over, but I doubt I will get this ship in game unless one crops up on the game exchange, but the game has done a great job in its visuals thats for sure and I do not often speak positively on that particular game, especially this last year and a bit.
Thanks for the video good sir, i really enjoyed it, and who knows perhaps we will learn more about the class as Lower decks continues.
I hope we do my friend :)
Computer: "Warp drive is offline. Phasers offline. Torpedo launchers offline. Crew is offline. Warp core breach detected."
Captain: "Let's give them five more minutes to respond."
Personally of the lower decks designs, this is my favorite. Its beefy, yet sleek. And for an engineering ship, I think looks the part.
It's one of my favorite as well :)
Much better than the California class. That ship looks like a saucer shaped table with nacelles!
@@dboymax1 even the old miranda class still look better
@@kerosoldier It's hard to beat the TMP-refit style.
Its a good replacment to the califiornian class
I think the joke about this class is that it's what we think a hero ship should look like. Even if it's part of a joke the Parliament class looks gorgeous and I hope we get to see more of it, don't you agree?
I agree. It's actually a rather impressive design.
The Parliament-class is just one more way that STLD is my favorite of the new Trek series. Creates something new and unique while staying true to the era is set in. It’s the only of the new three shows that I can say I like without adding a caveat to.
Lower decks ships are actually gorgeous lol need more
As soon as I saw it, I thought Aha, a Sovereign-Lite.
It’s like the Miranda to the Connie
The Centaur to the Excelsior
Nebula to the Galaxy
(I know it’s not a Sovereign kit-bash, but the aesthetics carries through)
Bravo to whomever did the animation of the ship for this.
I think the Parliament class looks way better than the California in class
5:55 as soon as this shot came up, and the size thing came into play…it clicked
This is just the sovereign eras version of a Miranda configuration…
The comment about “fitting with the design aesthetic” is where that clicked
Look at each notable design era (well most as I’m not fully versed in the newer series yet)
With (to my knowledge) the exception of the “original series” era designs, all others have a class of starship that takes the traditional constitution class configuration, and rearranges into a somewhat more compact and easier to construct ship
Constitution refit/ movie era had the Miranda
Excelsior era had the centaur
Galaxy era had the nebula
And now the sovereign era has the parliament
And the sovereign era had a much wider array of ships that we get to see (on screen) compared to other eras
The good ol’ Miranda class on steroids. Beautiful design 🖖
Congrats on episode 200! keep up the great work!
Another cool bit of beta canon for a cool starship design!
I've said it before but I'll say it again... these videos are a great way to start of the work week and mitigate those Monday sighs/feelings hahha!
Great looking ship. Happy 200
WOOHOO!! Big 200! Congrats. Here's looking forward to another 200 episodes of great content.👍🎂
Ngl, the Parliament class are damn sexy starships
I can't hear Parliament without also ghost hearing Funkadelic.
Anyway, that is a very nice design and one of the few recent designs I like.
This video makes me really want an Eaglemoss model of this ship!
Always thought the impulse engines looked a little long but other then that, I loved the Parliament class and your attempts at giving it some backstory
Thank you Strong Amazon :)
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I like Truth or Myth Beta Canon. A perfect opportunity to exercise your own imagination.
Well, in the episode where the Vancouver shows up, one of the crew mentions towing a space station. Having such large impulse engines makes sense if that's something these ships are called upon to do on a regular basis.
I like this class of ship! The nacelles are kinda wonkie but still a cool ship…
Again… waiting for the Eaglemoss models.
Booklets written TriAngulum!
Man, I really love your Beta canon videos as you are very good at putting the story together. I am looking forward to your 50,000 subscriber mark being surpassed, I know it will be soon.
As for a ship full of active duty engineers... As someone who saw what happens when you have that many creative minds all in one place, the parties are awesome and the innovations that come from those parties are almost always historic. Pressurized beer taps instead of gravity-fed ones, anyone? 😀
🖖😎👍A very cool and nice looking ship indeed, And very well done and informative indeed you guys 👌...
Thank you! :)
Great video. I really like the ship design as well.
this is a very interesting ship design and slots in perfectly into the over aesthetic of the fleet as a whole. While not one of my favorite designs, I love the diversity it gives to the fleet. Thanks again for yet another wonderful Beta cannon video. I love what you've been putting out.
It was certainly a versatile ship.
Lower decks is a great animated series and didn't realise it was cannon until i looked it up 🤣🤣
Again great navigation (narration!!) of another vessel, and happy 200th anniversary.
Thank you very much for this nice Video The Parliament Class. Like this Ships class very much
6:40 six “upgraded” launchers
On a ship full of engineers that doesn’t say much…I mean, when you look at how the chief engineer sets up their ship/facilities tech (Scotty, geordie, miles)…
…with a ship full of engineers on this thing, one could EASILY imagine that within 6 months, simply transferring from one ship to another would “feel” like an entirely different class of ship due to individual and unique ways of addressing things :)
The replicators would likely be made out of rocks. I'd like to think Starfleet engineers could devise a better use for them than bridge console filler...😏
Imagine working in your office in the pylon when it snaps off and throws you into space while the main ship limps away with a single nacelle.
Loved this video & the background music🎶🖖🏻🤩
Nice ship but the Negative space where the Deflector dish is , while looks cool could be used for another purpose.
Cool episode keep it up😁
The downward warp nacelles and the elongated saucer makes this ship look like a Klingon D7 when this ship approaches headfirst.
I think that it would be interesting to see what types of ships they had in the 25th century 🤔
I'm curious what kind of story you would come up with, a what if... if you will, if a defiant class starship was pulled into the Delta quadrant instead of Voyager. Your story telling skill in Star Trek are truly remarkable. Great video.
Happy 200th! Great video!
An updated Miranda class. She looks very cool!
200th episode? GG
Thank you Riccardo :)
A very nice looking ship. I would love for this ship class become canon.
It is
Indeed it IS canon, as it was in Lower Decks!
a sovie and a miranda made snu-snu and nine months later here we are.
I totally love the Parliament class it's a really beautiful looking Starship
“ Smooth “ “ Compact “ “ Ship “ “ Design “
Excellent video!! What about making one about Will Riker's Zheng He?
That is a true canon space ship for star trek.
Oh boy, knew i was missing something, lemme go grap this amazing ship on Star Trek Onlines' zen store........OH WAIT. 😮💨
As a Canadian I'm happy to see LD make this ship.
Another great video 😁
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you!
At 0:19 I thought it was a K'tinga at first until the ship got closer
7:50 such a large hangar facility would and could therefore render the ship easily retrofitted to act as a fighter carrier should a new war break out?
An instant classic.
I always thought that Miranda types (with no secondary hull or a small one and nacelles that hang from down the saucer) are non-specialized ships made for support and just support. Not like the Parliament class which is a seemingly specialized ship type
In addition I think it’s the most beautiful of the type: sleek and mean looking!
2 main complaints...we know Montgomery Scott is the most celebrated engineer in Star Fleet. He even made it to Picards time, and had a series of novels featuring him--the S.C.E. series. So my complaint is this: why don't they have a ship/starbase named after him? Or, after Jimmy Doohan, the actor that played him?
First.
Also nice looking ship. A Canadian inspired starship and as a Canadian I approve!
You and me both!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I enjoy your videos especially when you cover beta canon. Heck you try to bring Beta canon into Alpha canon with your narrative.
I like the design of the class excellent starship
Beautiful ship, I just wish the engine nacelles had been flipped (ironic since I disagree with Andrew Probert's statement on flipping the Reliant's Nacelles)
I think the Parliament class would have been a better starship for the SCE books, compared to the USS Davinci being a Sabre class. I love engineering-specialized ships!
My roomies and I have an ongoing debate about where the heck the shuttlebays are.
the MSD showed them inside the impulse engines, but MSDs are already suspect and have shown batshit locations for things before.
is...is that Ace Combat Hanger music in the background?
Honestly this ship is pretty gorgeous, its one of those designs were you can tell the designers really went out of their way to make sure it made sense. Being a Miranda style ship is an added bonus too.
Haven't really watched lower decks, I assume this is a semi common background ship?
It was featured in an episode... And since Lower Decks itself is Canon, so are ANY ships that appear with in it!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I think you may have misread Common as Canon? 0.o
I mean kind of like how we saw several classes of ships in TNG or DS9 filling the back ground or meeting with the hero ship in-between scenes.
This class kind of has that vibe to it, never the hero but always present doing work in the background.
thats a lot of windows; there are occupied cabin space on the nacelle pylons?
I'd have at least tried a turret that uses projectiles against the Borg, maybe they never bothered creating a defence against rail guns.
Love the Beta videos but i wonder what kind of Beta thoughts you have on the timeline of ships as a whole?
What do you mean?
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios since Disco was set roughly 5-10 years before TOS, and Enterprise was set before Disco and TOS. I wonder if you could create a time line of ships? It could span a few parts like Enterprise to TOS, for part 1. TOS to Enterprise - C for part 2, Enterprise - C to DS9 for part 3 and DS9 to post Dominion war for part 4.
8:09 Theres no way, NO WAY. Those rooms would be, at most, 10 feet wide with no hallway and no way to get to them. They also disrupt the various conduits supplying power to the nacelles
And yet, thats EXACTLY how it is, whether you like it or not... Also, why did you like your own comment? Pretty shady behavior to do that to make it appear as though your comment has support, when actually it has none... Shame, Shame!
i realy like this ships looks and dig the background of it, however it kinda sucks they didnt give it a hangar bay in sTO given its Shuttle contingent was doubled and the Shuttlehangar spans 2 decks -.-
NICE CLASS
Im prety sure that this class is not just an engineering ship (at least one of them is not all)
A bit odd but classic.
Don't this have the same problems as Oberth with getting to the deflection dish
Not at all... We know the Oberth Class contained turbolift shafts in the pylons because of MSDs shown on TNG... And since the connectors are much thicker, they'd have even less of a problem!
Time to do steam runner and akira
A nice rollbar on the top for weapons or sensors would finish the ship off nice
Its an Engineering Starship though, So I think it's just fine as is... But different strokes for different folks :)
You said 6 torpedo launchers, i spotted 4, two forward on the bottom of the primary hull, and two aft on the secondary hull, where are the other two?
4 on the front, 2 on the back!
I like the video, well done. However I have a few issues with the design. I agree with the statements below about the windows in the pylons. That would seem too take away from the structural integrity of the ship and would hamper power transfers. I also see no point in having 6 torpedo launchers. Considering how much space those would require; it seems to me that would space would be taken from workspaces. Does this ship have 6x the number of torpedo's of a normal ship of its size? If not that is a lot of wasted space that would be better suited to engineering duties. I do like the design however.
One of the biggest hurdles that some fans have, is their inability to look at something from a future perspective. In this case for example, you look at windows and think of it subconsciously like glass. But it isn't, the material it is made of is just as strong as the hull plating, merely transparent, which means NO structural impact at all...
Also, Im not sure how windows affect power transfers, that simply makes no sense what so ever!
Lastly, there is enough space aboard to make your last issue completely moot!
So judging by your comments here and your replies to others...we are all wrong and you are right. We know nothing and you know everything. Everyone dreams of being a Top Gun pilot but no one dreams of flying the transport plane. You've decided that a support/auxiliary ship designed to build and fix things should also have more weapons then a larger, front line ship. Good job. How about we call and is if a Parliament class is in the sector? Maybe those engineers can fix your bad ideas.
Sorry that you got SO offended and defensive about someone educating you as to why your thought process was incorrect... Maybe next time, if you can't handle someone pointing that out, you shouldnt comment! And BTW, I only tell those that are wrong that they are incorrect, which is less than 1% of the Channels entire comments, so stop acting like a child or a victim, it's very unbecoming! You chose to make a comment here that was wrong, and I simply corrected your misconception! Also, I didnt design the ship OR it's specs, Star Trek did, so go cry to them! ;) Cya!
Not only offended, but SO offended?? And defensive also? Thanks for the heads up.
You're Welcome, part of my job here is to educate and correct those that are simply wrong! Take care 😘
USS Papichulo.
It's a lovely design, I have to admit. Sadly, its STO counterpart isn't that great in terms of performance, from what I understand.
Also, I support the idea that the Parliament class IS NOT a dedicated engineering platform.
In the show, the say "the USS Vancouver is an engineering ship", and memory alpha and beta have assumed that EVERY ship of the class is, too.
However, we've seen from the California class that ships of the same spaceframe are frequently kitted out for specific roles. The Cerritos is an engineering Cali, and we've seen science and tactical ones, too.
Ilike the Profile
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I don't get those windows on the...er... wings? Pylons? Arms? The curvey things that connect the main hull to the nacelles. It there even any ROOM for rooms/cabins there? They would have to be *tiny*! What would they even be *used* for!? Seems like they just gratuitiously added them because, hey, more windows! Maybe they are all just one or two person observation rooms!? (For sex ;) )
The music was not fitting and way too loud. Couldn't watch the video on my earphones. Just some feedback
Happy 200th
Really? Thats odd??? I always check with my headphones and I didnt have a problem... I wonder if anyone else has this issue as well? As no one has said anything except you :(
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Where was it established that the Parliament Class was meant to be an engineering ship? Boimler's dialog suggests that it was the Vancouver specifically that was designed for engineering.
You're trying to split hair here... In Trek ALL ships of a given class have the SAME mission profile... And since that's an unbroken pattern, it's valid unless proven otherwise! And here for you to read memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Parliament_class
The combination of the solveriern saucer and BattleStar hull with full weapons systems would be a kick ass battleship design but do not utilize the dialutian-antimatter core design
No such thing as a "Dialutian" antimatter core!
Has canada 🇨🇦 name 🤔
6:48 The 2 USB ports were also useful.
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The Parliament class seems like a new version of the Derf.
Great video, except the music.
Well you cant please everyone!
Lame ship, No real offensive capability for my taste.
Just don’t like the class name
I like it’s a ship designed for engineering duties and still defend itself
Please stop the background music please
No... Background music will continue as this is just a "you" problem, rather than a general audience problem! Take care
so, you created truth or myth to dispel the myth surrounding alpha cannon but it seems like your doing more beta cannon episodes then alpha cannon, and i dont mind betas awesome, just seems like the episode naming needs a update, of course everything in this post should be taken with a boulder sized grain of stardust ;)
That's why these are title Truth OR Myth Beta :P