3:20-3:30 Imagine the humiliation and horror all those sailors would've felt that this bulky and unwieldy tank can drag a mighty battleship to its doom. Consider that all the sailors on a Shogun Battleship were chosen as the most loyal, brightest, and strongest among the Empire's people.
They are F@cking Apocalypes tank heavily armoured and with battleship cannons Yea one maybe what about 50 or 100 of those tanks they will destroy you seconds better to bomb the battle lab
Everything that allies have? We remove cryocopters, if necessary, aircraft carriers and hydrofoils and maybe Tanya. How many Alliance units even with some numiracial superiority, can stop group from... 5 "Apocalypse", 2-3 "Bulfrogs" and squadron MiGs?
@@арсенийменьшов-ь2е A couple of spies can counter them by bribe, hydrofoil renders them virtually useless, Javelins can destroy them with proper micro, Guardian tanks can cut their armor in half with the beam, Assault destroyers and athena cannons can tank some of their shots allowing IFV's to kill them too
@@tacotony3274 Spies: you must not have an eye in order not to notice a spy (although it can work if you have him among the peacekeepers). Hydrofoil: this is only near the coast, and even there you can handle it with a "magnetic harpoon". Javelin soldiers: The Soviets have a lot of great infantry fighting tools, and there should be a lot of these hot guys too. Guardians: yes, the enemy gets damage under the beam perfectly, but it still lacks against the Instruments of Doom. Athena cannon and assault destroyer: with both, the magnetic harpoon solves the issue - pull the first, cut the second. IFV: they only work if you reduce it, but if you can reduce it, then you have a cryocopter and then the question is: why haven't you underestimated and destroyed all the "Apocalypses"?
Every unit is weak against a skilled commander. Both counters but at the same time compliments each other. As it turns out, Cryocopters are an Apocs best friend against anything fast enough to outrun them. Not to mention the sheer joy of watching an enemy hopelessly escape a grinder... while frozen. Also Cryocopters are still broken, how broken? It wins 1 on 1 against ANY AA ground units, a Bullfrog is considered lucky if it takes out 50% HP from a cryo, as the cryo can render it useless before it can even take 50%damage. Allies are excellent in one thing: Support. And having them as your co-commander is something you always want to have. Healing? IFV with an Engineer. Harassment? Cryo + Twinblade/Tengu, this is incredibly disgusting, they don't rearm/refuel and can be anywhere in the map, special points for Tengu for being an AA as well that can protect the Cryos. Crowd control? Cryo. Logistics? Chronosphere, chronoswap, and other chrono abilites that will guarantee that your armor or worse: MCV will always be at the place you want instantly. Have you ever been so angry about Empire players rushing turrets at your base? Well if you have an Allied player and you have a Sputnik you can always return the favor in three flavors: chonosphere, chronoswap or just Shrink ray a Spuntink and run it there
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> as it's weapon type is switched to "Rocket" Well, you aren't right, it's weapon type becomes "Explosive" when it gets fully promoted. "Rocket" weapon type is the one that IFV and Javelins have.
It should also be noted that a structure or unit cannot he targeted by multiple harpoon attacks. You're best off using the big guns most of the time in my experience.
1:33 Op allies aside. THIS is honestly one of the biggest weaknesses of Apocalypse tank in my opinion. The fact that one artillery can melt half of Apoc tank health is too much. Especially considering how slow he is
Units in RTS, when they under fire: ''Need Help!/ Medic!'' Soviet best vehicles: ''They have no excepted their faith!/ They annoying me!/ I despise the threats of the capitalists!"
Is there anything you think that can be tweaked or changed about the Apocalypse tank that would make it viable? Have you already done this in your balance mod?
tbh i find it hard to use apocalypse tanks since i can outrange most ground units with the hammerheads leech beam so i find the leechheads more cost efficient but i also didnt know that the magnetic beam could be this useful
It doesn't matter, Apoc tanks are countered by almost everything Allies have in droves. Vindicators, Cyrcopters, Javs, Athenas, Spies, Cryo protocols etc. As Long as air play is this strong heavy ground units will never be viable aside from some yolo meme tactics. Everything the Apoc tank can achieve in the current meta do the Hammer tank can also do and it is cheaper.
I was very sad upon realese of RA3 that apocalypse tank cant shoot aircraft units. :( In ranked games I used them not very often, but when I do it was that tactic with choopers and tanks, but not always with a curtain. It was last resort tactics, but people were surprised and it often works.
Yes. He was a Soviet soldier watching in a ship nearby. Gene Farber only got like 10 seconds of screen time but those were the best 10 seconds of the movie for me!
Moskvin... Weaver... What is Gene Farber's nationality? Why give him Russian roles? I mean Andrew Divoff is reasonable, he's half-Russian(perfect for his role as Krukov or Kravchenko)...
Magnetic Harpoon a Time Bomb? Being hit with a time bomb near an Apocalypse Tank somehow rarely happens to me so this is good to know hahaha. Guess I'd combine this trick with reverse moving the apoc so you don't waste the critical seconds having it turn around before dragging it again. That tg meme was also a pleasant surprise~! haha
I think it's a bit of a noob trap. It costs a huge amount of resources, the range on its guns are low, the magnetic harpoon is rather useless because of how much down time there is between switching to it, has no ability to defend itself against air attacks.
Thought this guide woulda been simpler lol Step one: Play PvE Step two: *FOCKIN* *SPAM* *APOCALYPSE* Okay these things is kinda nerfed to the ground in RA3 but still, they're still the true meaning of SOVIET ARMOR
They're just not, apoc's design is focused on firepower and armor with speed being a lesser priority. The closest viable alternative to apoc tanks are tesla tanks which have proper armor, high damage, and decent speed. Too bad theyre locked behind campaign missions tho
It is a crime to remove anti-air missile from the Apoc tank.... Also the mag harpoon is completely over shadow by the Grinder in Uprising which does its job better at grinding stuffs .
Not viable in competitive gameplay? It's not viable in the damn mission it was introduced in! They need to give it the explosive shell by default, so it can kill everything on the ground fairly easily.
mastermind wouldve been a lot of fun to use in ra3 even if it would be super limited by being high soviet tech. imagine the nonsense you could get into by using mind control and crusher cranes
Um, I think both V4 and elite Apoc use the damage type of HE, not rocket……Apocs don't take increased damage from rockets, but they do get *crushed* by their elite counterparts. Also infantries take reduced rocket, but full HE dam
Artillery pieces do not inflict extra damage to Apocs, they are already inflicting high damage to everthing, Apocs are weak against artillery because they are slow and cant escape from it. In RA3, being agile and fast are much better against arty than being heavily armored.
Imagine in real life apocalypse tank comes in to your village and you can notice 1 guy inside the tank shouting in a megaphone saying: Armagedon is here!!
Lol poor Moskvin got scarred for life Arkhangelsk Tank Plant: Okey let's add AA rockets to the Apoc Moskvin: No. Add a big magnet. ATP: But…… Moskvin: N O W (pulls out tesla coil)
@@Sheyl3319 Not the same, King oni and Mirage are faster and smaller, apoc is too slow to escape a fight, too huge to avoid full damage from artillery, while king oni and mirage can dodge and rush to kill artillery, and run away when shinked
Tesla troopers are surprisingly effective if micro managed properly they can just shut these things down so you could then snap their pilot out and take them for yourself free apocalypse tanks
I refuse to call a double-barreled tank that can't attack air units "Apocalypse" or "Mammoth". At best, this is RA1's Heavy Tank - double-barrels, can't attack air like the Mammoth.
They can used with twinblades and V4's more efficiently. I think they should have sea wing's type anti air missiles, this version disrespects the legacy of apocalypse or mammoth type of tanks in C&C universe.
@@xyhc-cnc yo wtf! Can you imagine terror drone and iron curtain combo must be annoying, and ine more question, if any unit infected by terror drone can they still attack ?
Like Come on, Other mammoth tank in C&C series can counter air. All mammoth&RA2 apoc get rocket pod. Overlord can install gatling or load up tank hunter in bunker. And this thing is disgusting. It's big. It's can't hit air like it's brothers. And slow as fuck.
I am total rd3 noob who didn't basicaly ever play it until this month becouse of The Remaster. So sorry for the dumb question but how can this be so unviable it sounded like a pretty good unit. (On the other hand my stadarts for ''good units''' are way too high to the point that everythting that is not a Sputnik is viable to me)
@@xyhc-cnc That actualy explained it quite well! Your videos are very well made and i hope this is not too insulting if i say about a generaly forgoten game like red alert 3 it straight up got me interested in a game i never even realy played before so well done!
> Apocalypse tanks are Soviet's strongest battle tank despite not being viable competitively Well, you just described the Soviets. Do Soviets have at least anything viable? Strongest side in the theory, weakest side on practice.
If including uprising, Mortar cycles are meta af. They can clear garrisons and pairs well with terror drone as well as being able to outrun almost everything
3:20-3:30
Imagine the humiliation and horror all those sailors would've felt that this bulky and unwieldy tank can drag a mighty battleship to its doom. Consider that all the sailors on a Shogun Battleship were chosen as the most loyal, brightest, and strongest among the Empire's people.
5:04
Place structures to stop the Apocs from grinding its main target..
"THE APOCALYPSE CAN'T BE STOPPED"
Well, the tank voice has a point: he wasn't stopped for very long at all...
They are F@cking Apocalypes tank heavily armoured and with battleship cannons Yea one maybe what about 50 or 100 of those tanks they will destroy you seconds better to bomb the battle lab
@@deltared7455 By the time you can build 50 of them I can already carpet bomb your base thrice...
@@theotv5522 yeah my max is 20 but most of the times I go for 10 or 15
Coolest unit of the game after King Oni too bad it is countered by basically *everything* that allies have.
Everything that allies have?
We remove cryocopters, if necessary, aircraft carriers and hydrofoils and maybe Tanya. How many Alliance units even with some numiracial superiority, can stop group from... 5 "Apocalypse", 2-3 "Bulfrogs" and squadron MiGs?
@@арсенийменьшов-ь2е A couple of spies can counter them by bribe, hydrofoil renders them virtually useless, Javelins can destroy them with proper micro, Guardian tanks can cut their armor in half with the beam, Assault destroyers and athena cannons can tank some of their shots allowing IFV's to kill them too
@@tacotony3274 Spies: you must not have an eye in order not to notice a spy (although it can work if you have him among the peacekeepers).
Hydrofoil: this is only near the coast, and even there you can handle it with a "magnetic harpoon".
Javelin soldiers: The Soviets have a lot of great infantry fighting tools, and there should be a lot of these hot guys too. Guardians: yes, the enemy gets damage under the beam perfectly, but it still lacks against the Instruments of Doom.
Athena cannon and assault destroyer: with both, the magnetic harpoon solves the issue - pull the first, cut the second.
IFV: they only work if you reduce it, but if you can reduce it, then you have a cryocopter and then the question is: why haven't you underestimated and destroyed all the "Apocalypses"?
Every unit is weak against a skilled commander. Both counters but at the same time compliments each other. As it turns out, Cryocopters are an Apocs best friend against anything fast enough to outrun them. Not to mention the sheer joy of watching an enemy hopelessly escape a grinder... while frozen.
Also Cryocopters are still broken, how broken? It wins 1 on 1 against ANY AA ground units, a Bullfrog is considered lucky if it takes out 50% HP from a cryo, as the cryo can render it useless before it can even take 50%damage.
Allies are excellent in one thing: Support. And having them as your co-commander is something you always want to have. Healing? IFV with an Engineer. Harassment? Cryo + Twinblade/Tengu, this is incredibly disgusting, they don't rearm/refuel and can be anywhere in the map, special points for Tengu for being an AA as well that can protect the Cryos. Crowd control? Cryo. Logistics? Chronosphere, chronoswap, and other chrono abilites that will guarantee that your armor or worse: MCV will always be at the place you want instantly. Have you ever been so angry about Empire players rushing turrets at your base? Well if you have an Allied player and you have a Sputnik you can always return the favor in three flavors: chonosphere, chronoswap or just Shrink ray a Spuntink and run it there
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> as it's weapon type is switched to "Rocket"
Well, you aren't right, it's weapon type becomes "Explosive" when it gets fully promoted. "Rocket" weapon type is the one that IFV and Javelins have.
oh oopsies
@@xyhc-cnc wrong info
Explosive damage with HE shells. Similar damage type with V4, Dreadnought and Kirov.
It should also be noted that a structure or unit cannot he targeted by multiple harpoon attacks. You're best off using the big guns most of the time in my experience.
Just bought the CnC bundle for nostalgia and hell im glad to see that guide to Apoc tank is the first thing on my recomended after I did that
3:49
oh no it's the prism tower meme from tg...
plz use more
Can you show me the vid?
it is nice to see this game still has an active community.
subbed
Btw heroic Apoc tank's weapon type is Explosive and also deals 2.5x dmg to heavy tanks/heavy armored
I know this will be a bad joke, but
"Daddy, how are apocalypse tanks made?
Well son, this happens 5:33 and then a new apocalypse is born"
Two Apocalypse tanks having sexual congress while solemn Soviet victory theme plays.
Epic.
Nature truly is beautiful
Well, they make a Hammer Tank, which grows up into Apoc Tank one day
It may not be viable in pro games but the unit is still hella fun to use and still is very powerful
1:33 Op allies aside.
THIS is honestly one of the biggest weaknesses of Apocalypse tank in my opinion.
The fact that one artillery can melt half of Apoc tank health is too much.
Especially considering how slow he is
wave force artillery 1 full shot can takes almost 70% health of apoc
Oh how you have fallen from grace apocalypse tank
Units in RTS, when they under fire: ''Need Help!/ Medic!''
Soviet best vehicles: ''They have no excepted their faith!/ They annoying me!/ I despise the threats of the capitalists!"
“The fool cannot hinder me!”
“We fight to the last man and last rocket!”
Fate* not faith
Basically a USSR duke nukem
Oh. Now Im glad to see a Theory on next video. Very happy
3:20 Scorpion wants a word with you!
3:42 I get that reference! Fan of tg's testing videos?
Nice work man^^ can stingray be next? :p
3:45 XD AHAHAHA the trivia came here as well!
Is there anything you think that can be tweaked or changed about the Apocalypse tank that would make it viable? Have you already done this in your balance mod?
tbh i find it hard to use apocalypse tanks since i can outrange most ground units with the hammerheads leech beam
so i find the leechheads more cost efficient
but i also didnt know that the magnetic beam could be this useful
"hammer heads" "leechheads"
I am bursting out of laughter
It doesn't matter, Apoc tanks are countered by almost everything Allies have in droves. Vindicators, Cyrcopters, Javs, Athenas, Spies, Cryo protocols etc. As Long as air play is this strong heavy ground units will never be viable aside from some yolo meme tactics. Everything the Apoc tank can achieve in the current meta do the Hammer tank can also do and it is cheaper.
@@ProtonCannon agree allies too op plz nerf
I was very sad upon realese of RA3 that apocalypse tank cant shoot aircraft units. :(
In ranked games I used them not very often, but when I do it was that tactic with choopers and tanks, but not always with a curtain. It was last resort tactics, but people were surprised and it often works.
Nice guide! I can't wait for the Assault Destroyer next, it's like an amphibious boat AV7 tank!
Wait Moskvin was really in that scene where Magneto pulls a submarine out of the water?
Yes. He was a Soviet soldier watching in a ship nearby. Gene Farber only got like 10 seconds of screen time but those were the best 10 seconds of the movie for me!
Was it X-Men First Class?
Moskvin... Weaver...
What is Gene Farber's nationality? Why give him Russian roles?
I mean Andrew Divoff is reasonable, he's half-Russian(perfect for his role as Krukov or Kravchenko)...
@@xyhc-cnc Michael Ironside (General Granger from Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars) was the American ship captain.
Yes
Magnetic Harpoon a Time Bomb? Being hit with a time bomb near an Apocalypse Tank somehow rarely happens to me so this is good to know hahaha. Guess I'd combine this trick with reverse moving the apoc so you don't waste the critical seconds having it turn around before dragging it again.
That tg meme was also a pleasant surprise~! haha
I think it's a bit of a noob trap. It costs a huge amount of resources, the range on its guns are low, the magnetic harpoon is rather useless because of how much down time there is between switching to it, has no ability to defend itself against air attacks.
1:03 Beautiful
A small group of heroic Apocalypse Tanks can decimate anything on land. Utterly unstoppable... with proper AA support provided
Nice video i appreciate your efforts and time 👍
Thought this guide woulda been simpler lol
Step one: Play PvE
Step two: *FOCKIN* *SPAM* *APOCALYPSE*
Okay these things is kinda nerfed to the ground in RA3 but still, they're still the true meaning of SOVIET ARMOR
Very good tutorial!
3:38 - yo you forgot to put "ft. tg" in the title 😋
Yay! I'm featured!
it breaks the walls also
I can't find the into music. I know it's Hell March but is it a remixed version or something?
yes it's in the RA3 soundtrack
Why can't apocalypse tanks in Red Alert 3 attack air units? I remember that they can attack air units in Red Alert 2... ? am I right?
Idk why but I like watching these even tho I’ve never played red alert 3
Real tank must crush everything i their sight!
The instrument of doom
In your opinion, what needs to be changed to make Apoc tanks viable competitively?
They're just not, apoc's design is focused on firepower and armor with speed being a lesser priority. The closest viable alternative to apoc tanks are tesla tanks which have proper armor, high damage, and decent speed. Too bad theyre locked behind campaign missions tho
It is a crime to remove anti-air missile from the Apoc tank.... Also the mag harpoon is completely over shadow by the Grinder in Uprising which does its job better at grinding stuffs .
I remember that the tank model can actually aim 90 degrees up in air. They must have given up on that idea
Yes.
@@sisatici155 Why they can't slap some missile pods . The Apoc is hard counter by Cryocopter . Even a King Oni is more useful .
Grinder sucks at turning tho
And guess what? Apocs in RA3 is 250 bucks more expensive than RA2!
Not viable in competitive gameplay? It's not viable in the damn mission it was introduced in! They need to give it the explosive shell by default, so it can kill everything on the ground fairly easily.
I'm sorry , but where can I find unit's HP and damage it does. Basicly where all of those stats are written?
www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=447395
@@xyhc-cnc is that pre-patch information, or it is with all patches applied?
mastermind wouldve been a lot of fun to use in ra3 even if it would be super limited by being high soviet tech. imagine the nonsense you could get into by using mind control and crusher cranes
Um, I think both V4 and elite Apoc use the damage type of HE, not rocket……Apocs don't take increased damage from rockets, but they do get *crushed* by their elite counterparts. Also infantries take reduced rocket, but full HE dam
Artillery pieces do not inflict extra damage to Apocs, they are already inflicting high damage to everthing, Apocs are weak against artillery because they are slow and cant escape from it. In RA3, being agile and fast are much better against arty than being heavily armored.
@@deaclavilis6760 Man I dunno, I checked with conscripts last time, their Molotovs did do additional damage to Apocs and that was explosion
3:48 Prism Tower meme reaches here eh
Imagine in real life apocalypse tank comes in to your village and you can notice 1 guy inside the tank shouting in a megaphone saying: Armagedon is here!!
And then some funny helicopter swoops in and turns the Apocalypse Tank into a toy car.
If u were to choose the magnetic harpoon vs anti air capabilities which would u prefer
Lol poor Moskvin got scarred for life
Arkhangelsk Tank Plant: Okey let's add AA rockets to the Apoc
Moskvin: No. Add a big magnet.
ATP: But……
Moskvin: N O W (pulls out tesla coil)
now if only this magnet could pull down aircraft like Yuriko does
@@MrRulet550 oh god i would love to see that
Xyhc is the best youtuber ever🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
thanks :)
@@xyhc-cnc can you make mod review videos and well please
XYHC I wanted to say it the same thing!
I genuinely did not know you could transport Apocalypse Tanks with Twinblades.
I wonder how powerful this tank would be in world of tanks or war thunder?
Apoc tanks are the most powerful tier 3 tanks
No shit Sherlock
Psh, cryocopter shrink it and make it get crushed by tier one vehicle. 😂
@@tuck295q Same goes for King Oni and Mirage so what exactly are you on about
33 19 the point is exactly that. Cryocopter is broken OP.
@@Sheyl3319 Not the same, King oni and Mirage are faster and smaller, apoc is too slow to escape a fight, too huge to avoid full damage from artillery, while king oni and mirage can dodge and rush to kill artillery, and run away when shinked
Tesla troopers are surprisingly effective if micro managed properly they can just shut these things down so you could then snap their pilot out and take them for yourself free apocalypse tanks
Allies can buy an army of these things too. Only faction that can't steal is empire
the empire has engineers so they can steal to
3:53 🤣
04:01 damm thank u for ur information, im soviet user (vs AI) & time bombs is very annoying
Apocalypse Harpoon is Tooooooo OP. It can Harpoon Shogun Executioner that make Shogun Executioner can't move
Can I say it, just once?
Only if you wish to suffer!
...
3:20
can u make other RTS unit guides?
Does Magnetic Harpoon instantly destroy frozen structure?
5:32 My dirty mind...
What would happen if you drag a Tsunami Tank into water?
I refuse to call a double-barreled tank that can't attack air units "Apocalypse" or "Mammoth".
At best, this is RA1's Heavy Tank - double-barrels, can't attack air like the Mammoth.
Which unit is superior? Apocalypse Tank or King Oni?
Depending of the micro management. If the apocalypse tank is hit by the charge or not but as show in the video the soviet engineering still win.
King oni is better competitively, as it's faster and smaller
Some people say that's King Oni was same strong as Apocalypse Tank
and also
Unit Guide: King Oni please
They barely lose to Apocalypse even if they land a Bull Charge
king onis are better competitively as they are faster and smaller, though still get countered, but not getting countered as hard as apoc
I wonder what would happen if the ra3 apocalypes tanks have AA
Not much would change.
@@xyhc-cnc makes sense
They can used with twinblades and V4's more efficiently. I think they should have sea wing's type anti air missiles, this version disrespects the legacy of apocalypse or mammoth type of tanks in C&C universe.
@@deaclavilis6760 basically making up for their vunerabilities to cryocopters
@@sufferfr0mlag506 Dedicated anti air units already struggle against cryocopters, Apoc AA is just going to be worse.
Fukin magnets how do they work?
Wish they could shoot air like in RA2 tho
Plz do ra2 tier list
Can terror drone one shot dolphin?
yes
@@xyhc-cnc yo wtf! Can you imagine terror drone and iron curtain combo must be annoying, and ine more question, if any unit infected by terror drone can they still attack ?
@@farichalmuafi2622 I remember the AI in RA2 loves that combo.
Ægion: RTS, Gaming
Idk man, mine seemed to love sending me Demolition Trucks that are Iron Curtained.
3:41
NOOOO NOT YOU TOO
Where russian subtitles?
4:20 Allies have OP combos with any faction including themselves.
Allies OP
Plz Nerf
Cryocopters just ruin everything
4:00 Bruh
Allies and Empire can kill it easy
3:39 Tg meme
Russian Overlord ?🤔
Chinese Apoc
moskvin was in x men first class? hahhahah
Like Come on, Other mammoth tank in C&C series can counter air. All mammoth&RA2 apoc get rocket pod. Overlord can install gatling or load up tank hunter in bunker. And this thing is disgusting. It's big. It's can't hit air like it's brothers. And slow as fuck.
All Mammoth Tanks(Apocalypse and Overlord included) are supposed to be slow as fuck, that's the curse of having REALLY Heavy Armor.
I am total rd3 noob who didn't basicaly ever play it until this month becouse of The Remaster. So sorry for the dumb question but how can this be so unviable it sounded like a pretty good unit. (On the other hand my stadarts for ''good units''' are way too high to the point that everythting that is not a Sputnik is viable to me)
The top players focus on air, (it is the meta right now) and it is easily killed by air or arty.
I got Tier List videos that explain meta viability in depth
@@xyhc-cnc That actualy explained it quite well! Your videos are very well made and i hope this is not too insulting if i say about a generaly forgoten game like red alert 3 it straight up got me interested in a game i never even realy played before so well done!
Juraj Hrubizna thanks :)
Sexy Apocalypes Tanks Destruction they are the doom guys of command & conquer Rip and Tear hahahahaha groovy
> Apocalypse tanks are Soviet's strongest battle tank despite not being viable competitively
Well, you just described the Soviets. Do Soviets have at least anything viable? Strongest side in the theory, weakest side on practice.
Terror drones ... that's it
Hammer tanks are the best tier 1 tanks, leech beam is too good
@@soniablanche5672 Yes , with leech beam you also give your Hammer tank many options , they are so versatile .
If including uprising, Mortar cycles are meta af. They can clear garrisons and pairs well with terror drone as well as being able to outrun almost everything
They'd suck less if they shot missiles like the RA2 iteration.
make it cost more and make it shoot v4 missiles or at least add a bullfrog cannon
@@waltermarine3248 add a bullfrog cannon? as bullfrog cost 900. sounds fair your new apoc should cost 2900