Save or Scrap?! 1959 International Dozer - Will it Start?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- Check out this ex-military 1959 International Dozer somebody dropped off at the scrap yard months ago. This machine drove off the trailer when it was delivered, but we didn't know anything else about it. What should we do next? Run over a car? Clear some trees? Let me know what you think!
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You're correct about starting on gas and then switching to diesel.
Diesel fuel has a low ignition point. You start the engine on gasoline; let it run a little while until it gets hot; then switch to diesel fuel.
That thing may look rough, but it's actually in pretty good shape.
You got to save that dozer my friend. To much of the good old American iron is going away.
It's a gas start IHC TD 24. Giant in their day. You have to have gas in the starting tank, pull the compression relief lever, so it can start on the gas cycle. after i starts, Once it warms up a bit , open the throttle till you get a fuel smoke and put the compression lever to the diesel position, it should switch over to the full diesel operation. I don't know where your located, but many of us collectors and farmers like these machines. They still can do a lot of work around the farm!
My grandfather had a few of these when he was getting started... then that D8 came along... mostly all Cat since. I'd like to have it around.
That is NOT a td 24 but a td 14 and that one is much smaller than a D8! The td14 is roughly the same size as a D6
Sorry, but you need a closer look. I've had 2 TD 14s over the years, their gas start 4 cylinder motors, the one in the photo is a 6 cylinder gas start diesel. That raised box over the instrument cover I've only seen on the 24. My TD 18A Has a gas start 6 cyl but isn't as large as the machine in the photo.
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The blade is not bent. If you look at the brace rods you will see they are set in two different positions to create an angle
So that "gas injection pump" is the ignition coil, with the coil wires
That gas injection pump is the magneto !! The gas pipes are the plug wires !!
Better stick to cutting stuff up 😂😂😂
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Yeah I laughed my butt off when he thought those were injection lines but actually spark plug wires on a distributor cap
That Dozer is far too good to scrap. Collectors will pay good money for it.
That's a military dozer, it'll run on vodka if it has to. Looks to be very low houred too. Tracks, blade in great shape. It would be good to have around any farm.
Save it!
You have to disengage the hand clutch to shift the transmission, lever against his left knee the other 2 taller levers to the left control the winch one is a brake the other engage it, its an old fricton winch. There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with it other than the operator not being familiar with the machine
There's a pretty good collection base out there on these old machines especially it being a military machine its worth a fair price!!
It isn’t a gas injection pump, that’s a magneto for spark to spark plugs. The plug wires are shielded. To start properly you pull decompression lever which lowers compression by opening up chambers with spark plugs in them. The carb has no speed control, just a choke. Check for spark plugs, points may need filing. Kind of hard to explain, best to look up you tube video. Hand clutch is lever on left side probably coming up thru floor boards. It should snap forward and backwards. Back should be released, clutch plates may be stuck. If so when you run it against a tree do it with clutch lever back, released position, clutch May break free. You apparently are direct starting it on diesel, if it does that I’d think engine is in good shape. Please don’t scrap, if you want to dispose of it I think an IH collector would do way better than scrap price. If you can’t find a video on starting leave a reply comment and I could do a step by step procedure of starting on mine on my TH-cam channel.
100 % worth saving. Wish you were near me we may be able to make a deal im sure trucking would cost more than the machine.
Your operator had the hand clutch engaged when he tried to change gears. Hand clutch is the 3rd lever from your left when sitting in the seat.
That's a nice machine considering its age. It would be a shame to cut it up. Contact Matt a Diesel Creek... He may want it.
Yes, he knows all about gas injection pumps. He should totally buy cat and tell them how things really work!
Watch you two is painful, ask some who has experience. The levers on the left with brake handles are for the winch operation, the next lever is the master clutch(forward is disengaged, back is engaged) two short levers are steering clutches, pedals are steering brakes, next lever is forward & reverse, next lever is transmission gear selection. The brake band on the dozer winch need to be tightened.
Google is your friend here, it's a standard shift trans with a hand clutch and a forward/😢 reverser lever. That thing would be priceless to have around a scrape yard....save it!
I THINK ITS A TD9 IF SO STANDARD SHIFT I HAVE A COMPLETE SET OF MANUALS FOR THAT IS MY FATHERS MACHINE AND A NICE ONE AT THAT CONGRATS
It looks like an old TD18. Always start in on gas and transfer it to diesel once it warms up. Otherwise you will crack the heads
It's head and ass too!
love to have that thing.
For some of us that have run these machines, it would be a great find. Angle blade and winch are definite pluses. You really need to get someone familiar with these older machines to give you some instruction. It is worth more as an intact unit than as scrap. Probably has another fifty years in it.
Definitely wanna see more of this dozer at the junkyard
There is a brake on the winch for the blade, if not adjusted properly the blade will not stay up.
The clutch should be the first lever on his left. Can feel the detent when you push it forward
Sam at Scrappy Industries....😊😊 Great find. The petrol side has a magneto. Well worth saving. Get a bigger yard and have a play....😊
This is right up Diesel Creeks alley. Like everyone else is saying it way to nice to scrape
Give Matt fromm deisel creek a call
Matt has enough going on lol.
He always wants more paul. And you beat me to it
Dont Scrap it, take care of the old lady !
The easiest way to start those old machines is to pull start them or just push them off thats probably where the marks on the blade are coming from, the " gas hose injection pump " lol is actually a magneto the " hoses" are how it transfers spark to the plugs on the gas side of it
save it
Best to start on gas warm it up then shift to diesel. That is why its struggling at first.
Take a minute and read the instructions and TH-cam has videos on how to operate the old internationals. Not that hard once you understand the system. Good luck.
Save it, wish I had the money to buy it
That thing is so cool!!
Very interesting video , it’s amazing to see it crank up , they definitely made quality machines back in those days , it may not be pretty but it runs
The lever closest to your left knee is your hand clutch. Push forward to release pull back to engage hand clutch
yes thats the way it works
it has a clutch it is the third lever from the left next to the operators seat you have to disengage it to put it in gear
That gas is gravity fed to the carb. There is a lever on the dash that has notches thats the throttle for the diesel
Starts on gas (right side of engine) and after it warms up, switches over by a lever, to diesel (left side of engine). Be sure to switch it back to gasoline for a couple of minutes before shutting it off.
Nothing wrong with the blade. look at the pins on the sides where the blade pins back. It's an angle blade. There are different spots to pin it back. The middle pin holes on each side are for normal dozing. Then pull the pin and move either way to make it an angle dozer to whatever side you need.
If it's a 59 this is a TD20 200 series these were the last of the gas start diesels, it certainly seems good enough to keep especially with military history, the winch on the back helps for a more balanced machine, the CCU needs adjustment so the sheaves grab and hold the blade up, as stated the 2 outer most levers operate the back winch the lever by the left knee is the hand clutch, it also has a clutch brake like a semi those pads maybe shot but with a few adjustments by someone knowledgeable on these this is still a viable machine
That’s one thst starts on gas and switches to diesel
That dozers clean, I wouldn't cut it up.
Id love to open a scrap yard in my home town. Been watching your videos.
If I were you I’d put it on facebook marketplace for 5,000 dollars
LOL gas injection pump , wires not lines from the mag. ,switch it to gas which lowers compression , open gas valve and she fire right up.
The U D engines were all bad for cracking heads. My dad told me they must b idled to cool down after a session of hard work. If they were shut down to soon they cracked early. I was at a sale years ago where they sold a 40s td 18 twin stack and a td 20 newer. There was a pile of cracked heads there to fill a dump truck.
A historic construction equipment association would love it sell raffle tickets for 50$ and sell a 100 tickets .
Diesel Creek would be proud
To nice of a machine to scrape.
WHEN YOU RUN IT AND WORK IT HARD, LET HER IDLE FOR ABOUT 10 MINUTES BEFORE SHUTTING DOWN TO AVOID WARPING THE STARTING VALVES!!
BASICALLY IT STARTS AS AN GASOLINE ENGINE WARMS UP AN BIT THEN GOES OVER TO DIESEL!
ONE OF THESE LEVERS MAKES THE CHANGE!!
WHAT AREA ARE YOU??
ON THE RIGHT SIDE THAT IS AN SPARK IGNITION MAGNETO!!
I have TD9 1949 crawler still working good needs a new clutch though can't find one
It starts on Gasoline to warm up then switch to Diesel. What you're calling a gas pump is a Magneto which has spark plug wires going to spark plugs into each cylinder. Late 50's early 60's design. Great old machines.
CAT used pony motors( gasoline starter engines) to start the diesel engine once oil pressure is up, fuel pressure and combustion chambers warmed up before adding fuel.
I might be interested in it. Do you know how much you would need for it?
Have Diesel creek come save it
Don't scrap that iH it starts mint an moves .. put her up for sale on something I'm sure someone will save it and put it to use.. great tracks great undercarriage ..!! I'm sure you just need to figure how to put it in gear an work them
Of course you could use it if you knew how to drive it you need to use the clutch lever properly
Put some gasoline in the tank to start it and it will start easily get some one who knows what they are doing to start it
Contact the seller and see if they can give you any information on the operation of the dozer.
I had T D 18 for a little while it was a old army rig just like this one
Looks like a later TD-18 dozer.
I’ve seen those sell for £20,000 in working order.
I think you should restore it
It's a td18 182 I have one. It starts on gas when it is warm enough you push in the decompression leaver and move the diesel throttle.
How do I contact you?
Start the pony motor then when running switch to the desiel
Dont think you understand, it doesnt have a pony engine, this engine can run as both a diesel and a gas engine
I use to run one of these for the county. Starts on gas after warms up manually switch it to diesel. Cut valve off from gas tank so it’s running on diesel. There is adjustment for clutch and front brake for blade
@@redneckgarage17O819 The gas tank only holds about 1 gallon of gas. Only in the summer you might be able to cold start without gas
Save it 😊
Look on those tags on the machine, and see what model it is. Should be a TD (then a number, maybe followed by a letter). Looks like a TD 20 maybe. Find something else for that fellow to do that was trying to run it. He’s costing you money. Don’t spray ether in the air intake if it’s an oil bath filter. There should be a plug between the filter and the head to remove to give it a shot of ether. Take care.
On this ol boy there should be the trans pattern on the right and on the Left the long lever throws forward and backwards ,Pull to go forward forward to go reverse, Either a deceleration pedal to slow it down or center on the long one to change gears ,Neutral
Starts on gas then desil
If you keep it check the oil in the wench on the front thats your up and down on your blade
Keep it. The amount of work this can do in a scrap yard, you will never find the end of.
Also, the tracks tell of a low hour unit. Tighten them, they are to loose.
Its bullet proof, except the radiator. Build a steel guard for that 3/8" should do, have 1/2" holes to assist ventilation.
It can move very large amounts of material quickly.
It can go almost anywhere you point it, while loaded.
Caution, CAREFUL, a tracked vehicle can 'skate' sideways if it gets on a slippery slope.
Operators job at that point is to drop the blade, then jump.
Preferably on the uphill side.
Besides, it will be so very satisfactory in a manly manner to run.
I know, ive run them. Until you've used one, you'll never understand.
P.S. when you start it up, pick the RPMs up to about 1200 as soon as you have oil pressure.
the clutch is one of the levers to the left
Does the clutch lever pop in and out?
The paint is faded no biggy. This dozer has not seen much action as others have commented .
You just need to look up starting of this unit . Great find for sure.
It's called a magneto
If i was you put it up for sale $ 800 as is or put a few bucks into it keep it and keep it as a yard machine that dozer is a lot more versatile than you think It is Also it's a very good chance that Dozer was overseas in the Vietnam or Nam War Again use it or lose it BTW great video keep them coming
Possibly Korean War era
Very simple to start, should not need eithr!! Watch some international gas/diesel videos on how to start them, put some fuel in both gas and Diesel and it’ll more then likely start and run like a top on both gas and diesel
It starts on gas for a 5min warm up there is a Lever for gas and diesel one way for gas one way for diesel operation I had a 1956 td14a international what a work horse
That is a magneto
@Dieselcreek save this old girl!
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Get a hold of mat from diesel creek
It starts on gas and then switches to diesel
Save that old girl
Contact the king of obsolete
Probably rusted clutch parts🤔
What size is it? A TD?
It looks like a TD 20. They also put out a TD 25.
@stevelehman986 Yes, they did make a 20 and a 25. 20-25 years ago, I worked in a heavy equipment repair shop. We worked on a couple of them. Also, a lot of D8 Catapiller. I worked on an American dragline crane. Along with all kinds of farm equipment.
@@chrisurschel6832 I operated one about 50 years ago. Had an open cab, missable in the summer , cold as hell in the winter
@stevelehman986 Yeah, I grew up on the farm. Grain and Beef in North East Indiana. Not one of our tractors had a cab. The combine had a cab that my dad built on it. It was an old IH 101 that dad purchased used. Our family farm was 170 acres, 145 tillable. That's where I started my equipment repair work and welding. Helping dad on our equipment and the neighbors when they broke down.
@@chrisurschel6832 I’m on the eastern shore of Maryland, about 5 miles from the ocean. I worked for the county running heavy equipment at a landfill. By the way, farmers don’t get enough thanks for the job they do so, thank you
Hand clutch on left
I had one of those, scrapyard is the best place for it.
Do a cosmetic restoration and park it out front for eye candy
Save it
Magneto four spark
Get a manual or sell it to someone who can use it. Do not scrap it.
What part of North Carolina are you in?
Start it on the gas let it run for a little bit then switch to diesel with the lever on the dash
Be careful, don't kill yourselves.
Why are they even trying to run it they really have no clue how it works. They are a simple old machine surly they could have found someone that knew how it at least starts . Ran one on and off for years .
Gas injection pump???? WTF????
Worth 5 grand all day in Canada 🇨🇦
Clint at C&C equipment might be interested. Nashville, Indiana. He has YT channel.
For f sake how could anyone do such a horrible thing to that beauty, please guys save her.
Could call letsdig18 or diesel creek
Don't scrap it. Sounds like a good old dozer.