Yeah, doctors seem to have this belief that the drugs they prescribe couldn't possibly have adverse side effects, even though, in the case of fluoroquinolones, many have been pulled from the market because of the amount of damage they've caused, and despite the black box warning labels available fluoroquinolones like Levaquin, Cipro, and Avelox have right on them.
I took it after being hospitalized after I had a bacterial infection from my hip replacement surgery that I had several months before the initial surgery. I had the worst pain going from the tops of both shoulders to my fingers. I felt weakness as well. I could not lift my arms because the pain was unbearable. I tried to get some sort of legal action, but no one wanted to take my case. Thankfully, after several months, the pain went away. I have it as an allergy in my medical records.
Hi Hamid. People do recover, yes. Some get better without doing anything in particular within about a year. But those that don't, don't and likely won't. Symptoms keep returning because Levaquin throws your systems out of whack and depletes your body of certain nutrition. Until you replete that nutrition, your body is working with a deficit, and thus pain and other negative factors are at play.
#FLUOROQUINOLONE Toxicity apparently alters mitochondria DNA. When repair is attempted, new cells are also DNA Damaged. Those affected, like me, are said to be #Floxed. More than 20,000 of us organized on several facebook private groups to discuss. Will post this interesting video. Thanks.
I must add that it took about 7 years for some symptoms to appear. After the first year I got trigger finger. Later other symptoms. Now I use a walker and wheel chair. Many are worse than me. Ex head of FDA charged for covering up the issue while her husband made millions on the stock market #MargaretHamburg. Lawsuits with Johnson and Johnson and #Bayer exceed 8 Billion usd each. They are choosing to settle out of court. If you had a generic like me under medicare you are screwed~! The other baddie was #Cipro but there are others in the #FLUOROQUINOLONE class.
In the video you said that Levaquin tendinitis is different from regular tendinitis. So does that mean that physical therapy would be less beneficial in this specific situation?
'Levaquin Tendonitis' is the label is sometimes gets, but really it's 'Fluoroquinolone Toxicity'. Which probably isn't a great label either... Tendonitis is too tight muscle and connective tissue, inflammation, and nutritional lack. Levaquin tendonitis causes all that, and more.... For instance, Levaquin depletes magnesium (sometimes massively). And THAT causes major issues.. But ultimately, it's a different mechanism, different animal. Way worse scenario to be in. And, physical therapy can't touch a Levaquin Tendonitis problem, because it's not the kind of problem PT can help. Rest, exercise, massage, acupuncture, PT, anything in the physical therapy realm....it's just the wrong tool by a mile.
Woke up after 3 days on Cipro to a quadriceps tendon inflammation of the right knee. Totally out of the blue and causing great pain. Waiting for an appointment with an orthopedist to examine the knee. I'm convinced the cause was the Cipro. The day before, the knee was normal.
Let us know what the orthopedist says. And whether he orders an mri to see if there is pain and actual tendon damage or just pain with not tendondamage.
I took levaquin a few years ago and had the worst knee pain in my life, luckily I’m about 6 months it all finally went away, but I took clindamycin for strep and I am now dealing with golfers elbow tendinitis and I been taking supplements like one a day, magnesium and glucosamine chondroitin and I am slowly recovering.
The e1 form of estrogen is great for the tendons. They give it to injured race horses. I went from thinking I needed a wheel chair to walking without pain after getting some e1 from my doctor.
I'm not an expert on hormones, but I'd definitely consult with a doctor on that one. (Not that doctors are fond of non-normal treatment options, so even that's an iffy proposition.)
My stupid Dr talked me into taking the first dose (Levaquin) at the clinic which I stupidly complied with. I usually like to research drugs before I take them but I trusted him. When I was going to pharmacy I was researching the drug and thought OMG I SWALLOWED THIS SHIT?! I should have puked it up right then and there. I didn’t take anymore than that one dose but I was fatigued the next day and my knees felt a little weak. Still do. Lord please don’t let this one dose screw me up!
Any help for retina reattachment is in a surgeon's hands, but in general, Levaquin affects the entire system, and thus you need to deal with the entire system (to help the individual aspects/symptoms) . Start with what you find on the page this video links to. There absolutely is hope.
I stopped it. They give me 10 days and I stopped at 8 day. Yes anxiety and muscle ache and very fatigue. Irregular ❤️ beat. Minor headache. The anxiety is gone. The irregular heartbeat is less after one day of not taking it. I have minor muscle pain. The fatigue is there. I would not take this again.
Hello, Are you still having pain? I took 10 days of Levofloxacin, 250 mg for digestive infection. Infection is cured but now after 3 months stopping the drug i have tendon pain and tingling in toes. Also my calves are painful and cramp up, all over muscle weakness and extreme fatigue. It used to be alot worse 2 weeks after stopping the drug. So I had a little improvement but im still in pain.
@@UnderATwilightSky I am sorry and I wish you are better .. did you recovery I have some side effects and some time after two months when I take cipro muscle weakness twitching and brain fog my leg is hurting and numbness
I just took it 2 days ago and my joins are in horrible pain, Mostly my arms. How long should you take magnesium after this since I saw in other comments it helps. Also would it be recommended to take a different antibiotic while healing or would it just make it worse?
Has any body fully recovered? If yes, can you let me know how was your story. thanks My symptoms started on 7th pill (pain in my left ankle and bunch other issues) 3 month later most other issues are gone but the pain in my ankle sometimes feels it is getting worst. I immobilized my feet for first 2 weeks and lots of rest until now. But just when I think I am out of woods it comes back.
i have to take levofloxacin. can i prvent of tendonitis or pain in legs, when i take magnesium?? please help me, because i aldready feel little pain in my right leg. i already searched on german websites, but i couldn't find any tips how to prevent. your video is really good =)
I just took Cipro 500mg twice a day for 4 days and my knees hurt really bad. I was asked to take it for 10 days but then I stopped after 4 days. Because of this pain I am avoiding to walk or workout. Will it be a good idea to eat lot of pineapple (as it contains lots of magnesium) or take magnesium supplements. What would you suggest? How fast would it help me recover from this knee pain. Its been 3 days since I took the last dose.
I'd go with magnesium supplements over pineapple (there's not that much magnesium in it, compared to your current needs). You posted this 11 months ago, give me an update and we'll go from there.
If you take too much at once/over the course of a day and hit/get close to tolerance level, sure. Mag is only a laxative if one takes too much/too much in too short a period of time.
Manpreet, I am from Mumbai, India. Are you from India? There is no awareness regarding this drug in India. India is a country of 1.3 billion people. Just imagine how many must b suffering here. We need to create awareness here. It will prevent others from getting disabled. Here doctors who prescribe Levofloxacin just refuse to accept that Levofloxacin affects the tendons and muscles.
I took one pill and ended up in the trauma ward. After almost choking there, I was told it was probably a medicine that causes hardly any side-effects and I should continue to take them. I took one more. I have good news. Check my post next, I`m touring all the Cipro videos. :)
Is it possible that tendonitis from Levaquin can occur for the first time several months after taking the drug? I am experiencing similar symptoms and haven't taken it in 2.5 months.
Yes absolutely. FQ's deplete magnesium. Your muscles need magnesium to work properly. When they don't have enough, you end up with, for instance, tendonitis symptoms sooner or later.
I have one question. There are so many people from the USA who are affected by this drug very very very very very very very very very very serious adverse effects millions of them,tendonitis, tendon rupture, FOGGY BRAIN (its so scary) because it croses the blood brain barrier , holes in your gut...host of other things. Why is this drug not banned still?
Because most victims don't report the adverse effects to the FDA & neither do the doctors that prescribed it, many docs don't even believe that these antibiotics caused their patients' problems
Thanks for the update. Yep, lower threshhold for further tendon damage IF ONLY because of the surgeries/repars/scar tissue. Surgery was probably a good ad necessary thing. But, what's not a good thing, is that your doctors treated you like the tendon injury/problems showed up in isolation. You weren't treated for the systemic downsides that Fluoroquinolones can/do cause (that cause the tendon-specific problems. Presuming the neuropathy is from the FQs and not from surgery damage, they didn't treat that. Balance (probably) isn't a repercussion from the surgery. It's a result of the FQs messing with your body's ability to function properly. Fatigue is presumably a shared function of FQ side effect and the result of muscles chronicaly tight (from trauma, from pain, stuck tight, this is intimately tied into results on muscles from FQ's). Soreness probably the same function. So, surgery probably good and necessary, but comes with downsides the medical industry tends to ignore (PT usually gets a shot at rehab). We'll presume your tendons are 'good' now. But the long term risks are a function of (basically) the FQ's depleting nutrition, which leaves tightness a progressive and chronic problem that is a constant negative to/threat to tendons...plus the inability to function correctly that results in the chronic balance, pain, fatigue, neuropathy, etc issues. In a perfect world, you didn't get any mitochondrial damage other than right there at the damaged tendons, though that can also play a role in the other symptoms. And as a general statement, you probably didn't get any dna damage or you'd be having a lot more complaints/a lot more to complain about.
Does azithromycin do the same? Because my life has really changed after taking 4 tablets of it. Shoulder pain, pain on groin area specially the left side, anxiety and headache.
It can. Though I -think- it's more from a specific poor response by your body, which includes (or, is caused by) lack of nutrition (so your body can't respond appropriately and can in fact respond the opposite of appropriate).
There is no pill or shot that can reverse/counter/fix the result of fluoroquinolones on the body. Never will be. Can't be, because that's just not how it works. Which is a bummer, but... Fluoroquinolones operate in a certain way, the body operates in a certain way. That's the key to figuring out how to reverse levaquin side effects. Complete plan of attack: www.fqtoxicity.com (formerly 'The Levaquin Tendonitis Solution')
Well, if you are suffering from Fluoroquinolone toxicity side effects, I say the answer to your question is the Fluoroquinolone Toxicity Solution program fqtoxicity.com
I joined the support group on Facebook, Fluoroquinolone Toxicity Group, it helps to read & get advice from people who have been dealing with this for years. Some people recover, but I suspect they are always at risk of new issues due to the damage it can cause to our DNA. I spent 6 months unable to do much so spent hours & hours at the computer with support group on Facebook, Fluoroquinolone Toxicity Group, learning what might work, what might cause more harm, how to talk to docs about this, etc. It's been several yrs now & the nerve damage that was barely noticeable early on has become a problem, my knees, shoulders, wrists & hands never returned to pre-poison strength but I keep on going, eating only whole, non-processed, no sugar foods, take lots of supplements, avoid synthetic drugs, both OTC & RX. Too many victims are harmed further by docs who have no idea how to treat us & prescribe drugs that cause more pain & disability. For pain & sleep help I use non-psychoactive cannabis oil. Diet is very important, a whole foods diet, free of additives including sugars.
Some value on that group, but a lotta terrible (or at least, not helpful or effective) advice on that group, from people that are just guessing. But the common thread found there is that docs have no idea how to treat, and continue to prescribe fluoroquinolones for things like acne (which is craaaazy).
Hi joshua, i had Moxifloxacin 1 year ago and had bad achilies tendons from it. After stopping the course 4 days in due to the side effects (after they wanted me to take them for 10 days) i couldnt walk properly. Ive healed now and its been forgotten and life back to normal until recently where i feel its come back slightly. Can you please help in what i should do i.e training the tendon, supplements to have etc? Thanks josh
That's great it's basically gone away in a year without doing anything in particular. Now, it's come back slightly. Basically, here's why. Fluoroquinolones (among other mechanism) depletes magnesium. So you've been running low for, let's just say, a long time, plus even less for the last year. First thing I'd do is supplement with magnesium (anything but oxide) and some B6 as that's required for the body to utilize magnesium. See what happens. Training/exercise? Nope. That's the wrong tool for the job, by a thousand miles.
I was just prescribed ciprofloxacin for a skin infection, I'm really afraid to take it after reading these potential symptoms. Is there anything else I can take and not risk my tendons rupturing?
I don't know what else you can take for a skin infection (presuming that it's a bacterial infection). It better be a BAD skin infection if Cipro is the only option. That's definitely a conversation for your doctor. And, any other class of antibiotic that you'd take for a skin infection isn't going to hurt yoru tendons (not known to, anyway).
@@TendonitisExpert I called my doctor before I took it and they said there wasn't any other antibiotics they could give nee instead and if the infection got worse I'd have to go into the hospital for iv antibiotic. They said it was Pseudomonas bacteria in my wound that's preventing it from healing properly. It was originally a hematoma from a car accident that swelled very big and they did surgery to drain it but didn't get everything out as I could still feel hard clots in my leg. It swelled back up in days and the cut they made didn't heal up and kept draining. I was sent to wound care and they made another cut and squeezed everything out and tested the wound for bacteria. Now I have 2 open holes that are packed with gauze and wrapped up getting changed every 2 days. I took the first ciprofloxacin pill yesterday and kinda felt my right hand get stiff, still hurts a little today and I know I have arthritis. I'm afraid to take any more of the ciprofloxacin now and going to tell the doctor I see in the morning about my hand getting sore.
That's a tough scenario. Bad hemotomas and what you've described...Pseudomonas can be BAD news, there are resistant strains and non-resistant strains. Very possibly worse than Cipro side effects.... And you gotta do what you gotta do. In this scenario, you're in your doctor's care and I'm not even going to suggest anything..because we WANT the Cipro (or whatever they use) to work, that's top priority. CIpro may or may not be the best or only choice, I don't know, depends on what strain of Pseudomonas you have.
@@TendonitisExpert thanks for the replies. Doctors only suggested that I don't do any physical activities while taking cipro. I have to do some research on that bacteria because I have no idea how I could've gotten it besides from the first surgery, unless it was already in my system and the hematoma just acted up on it after the injury, I don't know.
One can get pseudomonas anywhere as there is bacteria everywhere, but/and hospitals are hotbeds of lots of all sorts of bacteria and various conditions for more easily picking up infections (increased amounts of bacteria, compromised immune systems, open wounds, etc).
I really don't (as suggestion medications is way way outside my field of expertise and scope of practice). For the UTI however, look into D-Mannose. It is/can be very effective at dialing down UTI's. For the record I don't know anything about d-mannose and epidiymitis.
Heat causes the body to push new blood into the area. Cold causes the body to push blood/fluid out, and then when you remove the cold the body pushes new blood into the area. I like cold better because it does what heat does plus what cold does. The amount of cold you'd be doing isn't going to delay healing. And that presumes you need to heal (meaning, heal an actual rip/tear injury). One can have even debilitating pain while having nothing that is injured and thus 'healing' isn't relevant. COld is very effective at reducing pain levels locally.
Nice to hear from you. I am doing physical therapy for shoulder tendinitis for last 2.5 months. Physical therapist does the stretches. Then finger ladder on the wall. This stretch helps me. I lie down face up on table hands near to me.Then I try to take my rt hand back behind my head straight semi circle tryibg to touch table behind my head. It goes say 120 deg not beyond. The therapist tries to make it touch ground with her hand and keeps it for 10 secs. It is so excruciatingly painful. i feel like being tortured. Today i shouted loudly. OMG. There is very little improvement but. But it helps to clear out my stiff shoulder but recovery is very very slow. The pain doesnt go. Again if i miss a day with the therapist , feels like i am back to square one. Does this physical therapy help or only nutrition as you said. The reason i am asking - is it worth bearing this pain? My left hand is OK but there is very mild inflammation. But i never lifted anything heavy with my left hand if i do i ll get tendonitis there also. Sure. There is ZERO awareness abt this drug in India. When i told the therapist its due to Levofloxacin, she said i have gone nuts. I just read few days back people have done Platelet rich plasma therapy and have recovered rapidly. I am contemplating it. My question to you is very simple. Do physical therapy stretches and exercises help?
Does physical therapy stretches and exercises help anything in a Fluoroquinolone side effects context? No. Absolutely not. Platelet rich plasma (Prp) therapy can be helpful for increasing speed of healing damaged tendon. Do you have actuallydamaged tendon? Or just pain? If you don't ahve any actual damage, then PRP isn't going to help.
@@TendonitisExpert The below is my MRI report. Copy pasted. The right shoulder joint is in normal alignment. There are subchondral marrow signal intensity alterations involving posterosuperior margins of the humeral head. These appear hypointense on T1 and hyperintense on T2W images. The supraspinatus tendon shows subtle intrasubstance hyperintense signal. Minimal fluid is seen in the adjoining vicinity. No obvious tear or retraction is detected. Minimal loculated fluid is seen adjacent to the subscapularis tendon. Presence of fluid is also seen in the bicipital groove adjacent to the biceps tendon. The horizontal and vertical segment of the biceps tendon shows usual morphology and signal intensity patterns. The infraspinatus, teresminor, subscapularis muscles and tendons are intact, within normal limits in signal intensity and morphology. The acromio clavicular joint is within normal limits. Type 2 acromion. The acromio clavicular ligament is normal. The subdeltoid, sub acromial and sub coracoid bursae are unremarkable. The labrum appears normal. No obvious labral tears. The biceps anchor is intact. The glenohumeral alignment is maintained. Visualised humerus and scapula shows normal morphology and signal intensity pattern. No evidence of any cortical break. Conclusion - - Supraspinatus and bicipital tendinopathy. - Subchondral cystic changes in the humeral head. - Minimal fluid adjacent to the subscapularis tendon. Bursitis?
@@TendonitisExpert I took Levofloxacin in Nov, 2018. Developed tendinitis around April. i shud have rested my right hand. Used it for household work a lot. Never use my left hand. It is fine. My legs are fine. No problem with Achilles tendons atleast till now. But my right shoulder pains like hell. I started taking Magnesium a month and half ago. Doing PT for more than 2 months. It keeps my shoulder mobilized but doesnt help it heal. Icing helps reduce the pain very much.
Depends. It's all about 'Tolerance Level'. Meaning, the amount it takes at once, or over the course of a day, to result in loose stool (or getting stuck on the toilet). You want to find tolerance level and stay under it. The trick is, you probably need more than you can take orally. The body has built in limitations...take too much at once or over the course of a day, and you get loose stool or worse (magnesium pulls water into the intestines). So, you find out how much you can take over the course of a day, take that much ongoingly, and add in topical magnesium lotions/gels and/or epsom salt baths.
Essentially, yes. Fluoroquinolones are derived from quinolones. There is overlapping mechanism of function and both carry the same risks (and for the most part, the same warnings), though potentially fluoroquinolones have greater risk by a some margin. If one has had issues with Fluoroquinolones, one should definitely avoid quinolones.
There is no single supplement or 'thing' that is going to effectively reverse the affects of fluoroquinolones on the body. There are many factors, and one needs to effectively deal with each/all of them. It may sound self serving, but I only recommend the Fluroquinolone Toxicity Solution (formerly the Levaquin Tendonitis Solution), because tips and tricks just aren't going to do it, one needs a complete plan. fqtoxicity.com
That's not a quote from the video, so I kinda need more context. I'm not a doctor, only doctors can diagnose, so 'is it diagnosable' isn't a great question for me. Having said that, overwhelmingly when doctors give patients levaquin and that patient has a tendon rupture or any number of known and attributable side effects...the doctors say that it must be something else because the drug they prescribed couldn't do that (despite the FDA black box warning label). Are three three stages as you listed? No. I'm not sure what you're referring to there.
@@codymiller510 tendinopathy is typically used to describe any problem involving a tendon. Tendinitis is sudden acute injury or repeated micro-traumas. Tendinosis is non-inflammatory degeneration of the tendon, this is what fluoroquinolones cause.
I.got floxed from cipro last October, I'd say I'm 90% but my dorsiflexion and big toe extension and flexion is pretty limited, I really hope it's not due to scar tissue
I took Levofloxacin for 9 days a week ago .I had muscle pain within 2 days and had severe shoulder pain within a week I could hardly lift my arms .Quit taking it still sore can move arms better but not able to do my day job and barely get through my night job.If prescribed RUN.I meant 2 weeks ago
I played basketball three times a week until I was 42, right around that time I took some Levaquin for an infection and I had to stop playing shortly after that because I stopped healing on my off days, now the tendonitis in my knees and ankles is basically constant. Is there a way you can know if Levaquin caused this or if it was just my age?
Unless one has only very minor symptoms (and even then....), tips and tricks just aren't going to get the job done. Cipro does a serious number on the body (or at least, a complex one) and I certainly wouldn't rely on a tip and hope that results in recovery. www.fqtoxicity.com
@@TendonitisExpert the goal of all pain treatment is to disrupt the pain signal. The energy of red-light laser; 1. breaks the bond angles of biochemical pain molecules. IE: take O2 from H 2o you no longer have water. 2) red light laser dilates blood vessels increasing blood flow / oxygen to promote healing. See 1998 Noble Peace Prize in Medicine.
I see your goal is to disrupt pain signal. Ok. Certainly better than nothing. Professionally I'm more insterested in, and it's my opinion that 'medical' treatment should be focused on, reversing/eliminating the cause of the pain. To fix the problem/to fix the causes of the problem. As far as 'promoting' healing, that's great. But, even if there's damage from the FQ mechanism, the damage is a symptom, not the causative problem that needs to be reversed/eliminated.
Then you're in the category of people where it's not likely to go away on it's own. Definitely time to get to work doing the right things to help your body recover.
Yeah, doctors seem to have this belief that the drugs they prescribe couldn't possibly have adverse side effects, even though, in the case of fluoroquinolones, many have been pulled from the market because of the amount of damage they've caused, and despite the black box warning labels available fluoroquinolones like Levaquin, Cipro, and Avelox have right on them.
This totally explains why I'm moving along and saddening, something that isn't stressed, gets pulled. Mostly hip and elbows with me.
I took it after being hospitalized after I had a bacterial infection from my hip replacement surgery that I had several months before the initial surgery. I had the worst pain going from the tops of both shoulders to my fingers. I felt weakness as well. I could not lift my arms because the pain was unbearable. I tried to get some sort of legal action, but no one wanted to take my case. Thankfully, after several months, the pain went away. I have it as an allergy in my medical records.
As an allergy on the med records is smart. Wouldn't want to go that route again.
Hi Hamid.
People do recover, yes. Some get better without doing anything in particular within about a year. But those that don't, don't and likely won't.
Symptoms keep returning because Levaquin throws your systems out of whack and depletes your body of certain nutrition. Until you replete that nutrition, your body is working with a deficit, and thus pain and other negative factors are at play.
#FLUOROQUINOLONE Toxicity apparently alters mitochondria DNA. When repair is attempted, new cells are also DNA Damaged. Those affected, like me, are said to be #Floxed. More than 20,000 of us organized on several facebook private groups to discuss. Will post this interesting video. Thanks.
I must add that it took about 7 years for some symptoms to appear. After the first year I got trigger finger. Later other symptoms. Now I use a walker and wheel chair. Many are worse than me. Ex head of FDA charged for covering up the issue while her husband made millions on the stock market #MargaretHamburg. Lawsuits with Johnson and Johnson and #Bayer exceed 8 Billion usd each. They are choosing to settle out of court. If you had a generic like me under medicare you are screwed~! The other baddie was #Cipro but there are others in the #FLUOROQUINOLONE class.
In the video you said that Levaquin tendinitis is different from regular tendinitis. So does that mean that physical therapy would be less beneficial in this specific situation?
'Levaquin Tendonitis' is the label is sometimes gets, but really it's 'Fluoroquinolone Toxicity'. Which probably isn't a great label either...
Tendonitis is too tight muscle and connective tissue, inflammation, and nutritional lack.
Levaquin tendonitis causes all that, and more.... For instance, Levaquin depletes magnesium (sometimes massively). And THAT causes major issues.. But ultimately, it's a different mechanism, different animal. Way worse scenario to be in.
And, physical therapy can't touch a Levaquin Tendonitis problem, because it's not the kind of problem PT can help. Rest, exercise, massage, acupuncture, PT, anything in the physical therapy realm....it's just the wrong tool by a mile.
Woke up after 3 days on Cipro to a quadriceps tendon inflammation of the right knee. Totally out of the blue and causing great pain. Waiting for an appointment with an orthopedist to examine the knee. I'm convinced the cause was the Cipro. The day before, the knee was normal.
Let us know what the orthopedist says. And whether he orders an mri to see if there is pain and actual tendon damage or just pain with not tendondamage.
.. hello bro present how are you now .. are you OK bro .. have you fully recovery .
Hey man can you update? Did you recover? 🙏
I pray the blessings of God on you. You are a light!
Amen! I'm dealing with it now n don't know what to do. Gotta try this. So very scary.
Never take this drug and it can kill you.
I took levaquin a few years ago and had the worst knee pain in my life, luckily I’m about 6 months it all finally went away, but I took clindamycin for strep and I am now dealing with golfers elbow tendinitis and I been taking supplements like one a day, magnesium and glucosamine chondroitin and I am slowly recovering.
Hlo brother how are you now
The e1 form of estrogen is great for the tendons. They give it to injured race horses. I went from thinking I needed a wheel chair to walking without pain after getting some e1 from my doctor.
I'm not an expert on hormones, but I'd definitely consult with a doctor on that one. (Not that doctors are fond of non-normal treatment options, so even that's an iffy proposition.)
My stupid Dr talked me into taking the first dose (Levaquin) at the clinic which I stupidly complied with. I usually like to research drugs before I take them but I trusted him. When I was going to pharmacy I was researching the drug and thought OMG I SWALLOWED THIS SHIT?! I should have puked it up right then and there. I didn’t take anymore than that one dose but I was fatigued the next day and my knees felt a little weak. Still do. Lord please don’t let this one dose screw me up!
How are you doing now
I took 2 500mg in 48hours and I have mild side effects
Three away the third pill which I was prescribed
Any help for retina reattachment is in a surgeon's hands, but in general, Levaquin affects the entire system, and thus you need to deal with the entire system (to help the individual aspects/symptoms) .
Start with what you find on the page this video links to.
There absolutely is hope.
I stopped it. They give me 10 days and I stopped at 8 day. Yes anxiety and muscle ache and very fatigue. Irregular ❤️ beat. Minor headache. The anxiety is gone. The irregular heartbeat is less after one day of not taking it. I have minor muscle pain. The fatigue is there. I would not take this again.
Hello, Are you still having pain? I took 10 days of Levofloxacin, 250 mg for digestive infection. Infection is cured but now after 3 months stopping the drug i have tendon pain and tingling in toes. Also my calves are painful and cramp up, all over muscle weakness and extreme fatigue. It used to be alot worse 2 weeks after stopping the drug. So I had a little improvement but im still in pain.
@@UnderATwilightSky I am sorry and I wish you are better .. did you recovery I have some side effects and some time after two months when I take cipro muscle weakness twitching and brain fog my leg is hurting and numbness
@@UnderATwilightSky How are you doing now? any tips to get rid of symptoms
I just took it 2 days ago and my joins are in horrible pain, Mostly my arms. How long should you take magnesium after this since I saw in other comments it helps. Also would it be recommended to take a different antibiotic while healing or would it just make it worse?
Hello I was womdering how you been after you reaction. Im suffering similiar effects..
Thanks for speaking up and create awareness!
You're welcome. :)
Has any body fully recovered? If yes, can you let me know how was your story. thanks
My symptoms started on 7th pill (pain in my left ankle and bunch other issues) 3 month later most other issues are gone but the pain in my ankle sometimes feels it is getting worst. I immobilized my feet for first 2 weeks and lots of rest until now. But just when I think I am out of woods it comes back.
How are you today?
i have to take levofloxacin. can i prvent of tendonitis or pain in legs, when i take magnesium?? please help me, because i aldready feel little pain in my right leg. i already searched on german websites, but i couldn't find any tips how to prevent. your video is really good =)
I just took Cipro 500mg twice a day for 4 days and my knees hurt really bad. I was asked to take it for 10 days but then I stopped after 4 days. Because of this pain I am avoiding to walk or workout. Will it be a good idea to eat lot of pineapple (as it contains lots of magnesium) or take magnesium supplements. What would you suggest? How fast would it help me recover from this knee pain. Its been 3 days since I took the last dose.
I'd go with magnesium supplements over pineapple (there's not that much magnesium in it, compared to your current needs).
You posted this 11 months ago, give me an update and we'll go from there.
Magnesium is a laxative so excess get expelled in defecation
If you take too much at once/over the course of a day and hit/get close to tolerance level, sure. Mag is only a laxative if one takes too much/too much in too short a period of time.
Manpreet, I am from Mumbai, India. Are you from India? There is no awareness regarding this drug in India. India is a country of 1.3 billion people. Just imagine how many must b suffering here. We need to create awareness here. It will prevent others from getting disabled. Here doctors who prescribe Levofloxacin just refuse to accept that Levofloxacin affects the tendons and muscles.
I took one pill and ended up in the trauma ward. After almost choking there, I was told it was probably a medicine that causes hardly any side-effects and I should continue to take them. I took one more. I have good news. Check my post next, I`m touring all the Cipro videos. :)
Barb Kueber Wait, you got cancer?
Is it possible that tendonitis from Levaquin can occur for the first time several months after taking the drug? I am experiencing similar symptoms and haven't taken it in 2.5 months.
Yes absolutely. FQ's deplete magnesium. Your muscles need magnesium to work properly. When they don't have enough, you end up with, for instance, tendonitis symptoms sooner or later.
Yes, that's what happened to me
How are you now? Thanks
I have one question. There are so many people from the USA who are affected by this drug very very very very very very very very very very serious adverse effects millions of them,tendonitis, tendon rupture, FOGGY BRAIN (its so scary) because it croses the blood brain barrier , holes in your gut...host of other things. Why is this drug not banned still?
Because most victims don't report the adverse effects to the FDA & neither do the doctors that prescribed it, many docs don't even believe that these antibiotics caused their patients' problems
Unfortunately, both of those things are true.
I've been bedridden for 15 years. Good luck to the rest of you...
I had finally reached that point and had surgery Dec 10, 2018. Finally, I'm better. I have a good surgeon here in Seattle if you want a referral.
Hi John. What was done during the surgery? Or, what did the surgery do?
Thanks for the update.
Yep, lower threshhold for further tendon damage IF ONLY because of the surgeries/repars/scar tissue.
Surgery was probably a good ad necessary thing. But, what's not a good thing, is that your doctors treated you like the tendon injury/problems showed up in isolation. You weren't treated for the systemic downsides that Fluoroquinolones can/do cause (that cause the tendon-specific problems.
Presuming the neuropathy is from the FQs and not from surgery damage, they didn't treat that.
Balance (probably) isn't a repercussion from the surgery. It's a result of the FQs messing with your body's ability to function properly.
Fatigue is presumably a shared function of FQ side effect and the result of muscles chronicaly tight (from trauma, from pain, stuck tight, this is intimately tied into results on muscles from FQ's). Soreness probably the same function.
So, surgery probably good and necessary, but comes with downsides the medical industry tends to ignore (PT usually gets a shot at rehab). We'll presume your tendons are 'good' now.
But the long term risks are a function of (basically) the FQ's depleting nutrition, which leaves tightness a progressive and chronic problem that is a constant negative to/threat to tendons...plus the inability to function correctly that results in the chronic balance, pain, fatigue, neuropathy, etc issues.
In a perfect world, you didn't get any mitochondrial damage other than right there at the damaged tendons, though that can also play a role in the other symptoms. And as a general statement, you probably didn't get any dna damage or you'd be having a lot more complaints/a lot more to complain about.
Does azithromycin do the same? Because my life has really changed after taking 4 tablets of it. Shoulder pain, pain on groin area specially the left side, anxiety and headache.
It can. Though I -think- it's more from a specific poor response by your body, which includes (or, is caused by) lack of nutrition (so your body can't respond appropriately and can in fact respond the opposite of appropriate).
Same here and bilateral wrists are wrecked!!
So, what is the concoction you put together to help battle this?
There is no pill or shot that can reverse/counter/fix the result of fluoroquinolones on the body. Never will be. Can't be, because that's just not how it works. Which is a bummer, but...
Fluoroquinolones operate in a certain way, the body operates in a certain way. That's the key to figuring out how to reverse levaquin side effects.
Complete plan of attack: www.fqtoxicity.com (formerly 'The Levaquin Tendonitis Solution')
Is the solution still available?
It is still available. www.fqtoxicity.com
After I took Ofloxacin in 3 days last year, now tendons of my shoulders and my hips snaps all the time, what can I do to fix this?
Well, if you are suffering from Fluoroquinolone toxicity side effects, I say the answer to your question is the Fluoroquinolone Toxicity Solution program fqtoxicity.com
I joined the support group on Facebook, Fluoroquinolone Toxicity Group, it helps to read & get advice from people who have been dealing with this for years. Some people recover, but I suspect they are always at risk of new issues due to the damage it can cause to our DNA. I spent 6 months unable to do much so spent hours & hours at the computer with support group on Facebook, Fluoroquinolone Toxicity Group, learning what might work, what might cause more harm, how to talk to docs about this, etc. It's been several yrs now & the nerve damage that was barely noticeable early on has become a problem, my knees, shoulders, wrists & hands never returned to pre-poison strength but I keep on going, eating only whole, non-processed, no sugar foods, take lots of supplements, avoid synthetic drugs, both OTC & RX. Too many victims are harmed further by docs who have no idea how to treat us & prescribe drugs that cause more pain & disability. For pain & sleep help I use non-psychoactive cannabis oil. Diet is very important, a whole foods diet, free of additives including sugars.
Some value on that group, but a lotta terrible (or at least, not helpful or effective) advice on that group, from people that are just guessing. But the common thread found there is that docs have no idea how to treat, and continue to prescribe fluoroquinolones for things like acne (which is craaaazy).
Hi joshua, i had Moxifloxacin 1 year ago and had bad achilies tendons from it. After stopping the course 4 days in due to the side effects (after they wanted me to take them for 10 days) i couldnt walk properly. Ive healed now and its been forgotten and life back to normal until recently where i feel its come back slightly.
Can you please help in what i should do i.e training the tendon, supplements to have etc?
Thanks josh
That's great it's basically gone away in a year without doing anything in particular.
Now, it's come back slightly. Basically, here's why. Fluoroquinolones (among other mechanism) depletes magnesium. So you've been running low for, let's just say, a long time, plus even less for the last year. First thing I'd do is supplement with magnesium (anything but oxide) and some B6 as that's required for the body to utilize magnesium. See what happens.
Training/exercise? Nope. That's the wrong tool for the job, by a thousand miles.
I was just prescribed ciprofloxacin for a skin infection, I'm really afraid to take it after reading these potential symptoms. Is there anything else I can take and not risk my tendons rupturing?
I don't know what else you can take for a skin infection (presuming that it's a bacterial infection). It better be a BAD skin infection if Cipro is the only option. That's definitely a conversation for your doctor. And, any other class of antibiotic that you'd take for a skin infection isn't going to hurt yoru tendons (not known to, anyway).
@@TendonitisExpert I called my doctor before I took it and they said there wasn't any other antibiotics they could give nee instead and if the infection got worse I'd have to go into the hospital for iv antibiotic. They said it was Pseudomonas bacteria in my wound that's preventing it from healing properly. It was originally a hematoma from a car accident that swelled very big and they did surgery to drain it but didn't get everything out as I could still feel hard clots in my leg. It swelled back up in days and the cut they made didn't heal up and kept draining.
I was sent to wound care and they made another cut and squeezed everything out and tested the wound for bacteria. Now I have 2 open holes that are packed with gauze and wrapped up getting changed every 2 days. I took the first ciprofloxacin pill yesterday and kinda felt my right hand get stiff, still hurts a little today and I know I have arthritis. I'm afraid to take any more of the ciprofloxacin now and going to tell the doctor I see in the morning about my hand getting sore.
That's a tough scenario. Bad hemotomas and what you've described...Pseudomonas can be BAD news, there are resistant strains and non-resistant strains. Very possibly worse than Cipro side effects....
And you gotta do what you gotta do. In this scenario, you're in your doctor's care and I'm not even going to suggest anything..because we WANT the Cipro (or whatever they use) to work, that's top priority. CIpro may or may not be the best or only choice, I don't know, depends on what strain of Pseudomonas you have.
@@TendonitisExpert thanks for the replies. Doctors only suggested that I don't do any physical activities while taking cipro. I have to do some research on that bacteria because I have no idea how I could've gotten it besides from the first surgery, unless it was already in my system and the hematoma just acted up on it after the injury, I don't know.
One can get pseudomonas anywhere as there is bacteria everywhere, but/and hospitals are hotbeds of lots of all sorts of bacteria and various conditions for more easily picking up infections (increased amounts of bacteria, compromised immune systems, open wounds, etc).
Do you have any suggestions for epididymitis and Urinal tract infection pill besides any of the FQ family? Thankss
I really don't (as suggestion medications is way way outside my field of expertise and scope of practice).
For the UTI however, look into D-Mannose. It is/can be very effective at dialing down UTI's.
For the record I don't know anything about d-mannose and epidiymitis.
Also is it good to apply ice or heat belt for shoulder tendinitis? i read applying ice reduces blood flow and delays the healing.
Heat causes the body to push new blood into the area. Cold causes the body to push blood/fluid out, and then when you remove the cold the body pushes new blood into the area.
I like cold better because it does what heat does plus what cold does.
The amount of cold you'd be doing isn't going to delay healing. And that presumes you need to heal (meaning, heal an actual rip/tear injury). One can have even debilitating pain while having nothing that is injured and thus 'healing' isn't relevant.
COld is very effective at reducing pain levels locally.
Nice to hear from you. I am doing physical therapy for shoulder tendinitis for last 2.5 months. Physical therapist does the stretches. Then finger ladder on the wall. This stretch helps me. I lie down face up on table hands near to me.Then I try to take my rt hand back behind my head straight semi circle tryibg to touch table behind my head. It goes say 120 deg not beyond. The therapist tries to make it touch ground with her hand and keeps it for 10 secs. It is so excruciatingly painful. i feel like being tortured. Today i shouted loudly. OMG. There is very little improvement but. But it helps to clear out my stiff shoulder but recovery is very very slow. The pain doesnt go. Again if i miss a day with the therapist , feels like i am back to square one. Does this physical therapy help or only nutrition as you said. The reason i am asking - is it worth bearing this pain? My left hand is OK but there is very mild inflammation. But i never lifted anything heavy with my left hand if i do i ll get tendonitis there also. Sure. There is ZERO awareness abt this drug in India. When i told the therapist its due to Levofloxacin, she said i have gone nuts. I just read few days back people have done Platelet rich plasma therapy and have recovered rapidly. I am contemplating it. My question to you is very simple. Do physical therapy stretches and exercises help?
Does physical therapy stretches and exercises help anything in a Fluoroquinolone side effects context? No. Absolutely not.
Platelet rich plasma (Prp) therapy can be helpful for increasing speed of healing damaged tendon.
Do you have actuallydamaged tendon? Or just pain? If you don't ahve any actual damage, then PRP isn't going to help.
@@TendonitisExpert The below is my MRI report. Copy pasted.
The right shoulder joint is in normal alignment.
There are subchondral marrow signal intensity alterations involving posterosuperior margins of the humeral head. These appear hypointense on T1 and hyperintense on T2W images.
The supraspinatus tendon shows subtle intrasubstance hyperintense signal. Minimal fluid is seen in the adjoining vicinity. No obvious tear or retraction is detected. Minimal loculated fluid is seen adjacent to the subscapularis tendon.
Presence of fluid is also seen in the bicipital groove adjacent to the biceps tendon. The horizontal and vertical segment of the biceps tendon shows usual morphology and signal intensity patterns.
The infraspinatus, teresminor, subscapularis muscles and tendons are intact, within normal limits in signal intensity and morphology.
The acromio clavicular joint is within normal limits. Type 2 acromion. The acromio clavicular ligament is normal.
The subdeltoid, sub acromial and sub coracoid bursae are unremarkable.
The labrum appears normal. No obvious labral tears. The biceps anchor is intact.
The glenohumeral alignment is maintained. Visualised humerus and scapula shows normal morphology and signal intensity pattern. No evidence of any cortical break.
Conclusion -
- Supraspinatus and bicipital tendinopathy.
- Subchondral cystic changes in the humeral head.
- Minimal fluid adjacent to the subscapularis tendon. Bursitis?
@@TendonitisExpert I took Levofloxacin in Nov, 2018. Developed tendinitis around April. i shud have rested my right hand. Used it for household work a lot. Never use my left hand. It is fine. My legs are fine. No problem with Achilles tendons atleast till now. But my right shoulder pains like hell. I started taking Magnesium a month and half ago. Doing PT for more than 2 months. It keeps my shoulder mobilized but doesnt help it heal. Icing helps reduce the pain very much.
What is the maximum dose of elemental Magnesium one could take per day if one is severely Mg deficient?
Depends. It's all about 'Tolerance Level'. Meaning, the amount it takes at once, or over the course of a day, to result in loose stool (or getting stuck on the toilet). You want to find tolerance level and stay under it.
The trick is, you probably need more than you can take orally. The body has built in limitations...take too much at once or over the course of a day, and you get loose stool or worse (magnesium pulls water into the intestines).
So, you find out how much you can take over the course of a day, take that much ongoingly, and add in topical magnesium lotions/gels and/or epsom salt baths.
2011. Still can’t wear shoes with backs.
Hi, I just purchased your levaquin tendinitis solution and never received the email to download it. Can you please help??
I just reminded Kerri, she'll take care of that today. (she takes care of that part of things).
@@TendonitisExpert the solution is still active today or no?
It is indeed. www.fqtoxicity.com/
@@TendonitisExpert is vitamin d and magnesium good for recovery from levaquin tendonitis
In short, very much so, yes.
whether pipemidic acid (quinolone) has the same side effect?
Essentially, yes. Fluoroquinolones are derived from quinolones. There is overlapping mechanism of function and both carry the same risks (and for the most part, the same warnings), though potentially fluoroquinolones have greater risk by a some margin.
If one has had issues with Fluoroquinolones, one should definitely avoid quinolones.
@@TendonitisExpert I had similar effect on my tendon & else, what supplement do you recommend for recovery? Thanks
There is no single supplement or 'thing' that is going to effectively reverse the affects of fluoroquinolones on the body. There are many factors, and one needs to effectively deal with each/all of them.
It may sound self serving, but I only recommend the Fluroquinolone Toxicity Solution (formerly the Levaquin Tendonitis Solution), because tips and tricks just aren't going to do it, one needs a complete plan. fqtoxicity.com
"it's tendinopathy, tendonitis, and then tendinosis?"
I'm not sure what you're saying or asking. Please elaborate.
"it's diagnosable and understood through stages, 1. tendinopathy, 2. tendinitis, and 3. tendinosis, right?"
That's not a quote from the video, so I kinda need more context.
I'm not a doctor, only doctors can diagnose, so 'is it diagnosable' isn't a great question for me. Having said that, overwhelmingly when doctors give patients levaquin and that patient has a tendon rupture or any number of known and attributable side effects...the doctors say that it must be something else because the drug they prescribed couldn't do that (despite the FDA black box warning label).
Are three three stages as you listed? No. I'm not sure what you're referring to there.
@@codymiller510 tendinopathy is typically used to describe any problem involving a tendon. Tendinitis is sudden acute injury or repeated micro-traumas. Tendinosis is non-inflammatory degeneration of the tendon, this is what fluoroquinolones cause.
I.got floxed from cipro last October, I'd say I'm 90% but my dorsiflexion and big toe extension and flexion is pretty limited, I really hope it's not due to scar tissue
You only have that limitation on one foot?
yep, it didn't affect my right foot at all
I took Levofloxacin for 9 days a week ago .I had muscle pain within 2 days and had severe shoulder pain within a week I could hardly lift my arms .Quit taking it still sore can move arms better but not able to do my day job and barely get through my night job.If prescribed RUN.I meant 2 weeks ago
I have pain both knees
I played basketball three times a week until I was 42, right around that time I took some Levaquin for an infection and I had to stop playing shortly after that because I stopped healing on my off days, now the tendonitis in my knees and ankles is basically constant. Is there a way you can know if Levaquin caused this or if it was just my age?
Verry long recovery :(
I was poisoned by ciprofloxacin
me to , any tips?
Unless one has only very minor symptoms (and even then....), tips and tricks just aren't going to get the job done. Cipro does a serious number on the body (or at least, a complex one) and I certainly wouldn't rely on a tip and hope that results in recovery.
www.fqtoxicity.com
Cipro hurt me badly.
I treat Levaquin tendonitis with low level laser light therapy
Why?
@@TendonitisExpert the goal of all pain treatment is to disrupt the pain signal. The energy of red-light laser; 1. breaks the bond angles of biochemical pain molecules. IE: take O2 from H 2o you no longer have water. 2) red light laser dilates blood vessels increasing blood flow / oxygen to promote healing. See 1998 Noble Peace Prize in Medicine.
I see your goal is to disrupt pain signal. Ok. Certainly better than nothing.
Professionally I'm more insterested in, and it's my opinion that 'medical' treatment should be focused on, reversing/eliminating the cause of the pain. To fix the problem/to fix the causes of the problem.
As far as 'promoting' healing, that's great. But, even if there's damage from the FQ mechanism, the damage is a symptom, not the causative problem that needs to be reversed/eliminated.
After 20 mounths.... no progress
Then you're in the category of people where it's not likely to go away on it's own. Definitely time to get to work doing the right things to help your body recover.
TendonitisExpert thank you
and can we do exactly? 😢