Has EPIPHONE Gotten TOO GOOD FOR GIBSON?

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  • Epiphone has long been the value / economy sub-brand of Gibson guitars... they've been steadily improving and if this Epiphone Korina Flying V is any indication, there's not much reason left to pay the extra money for a true Gibson!
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  • @thepatriot4355
    @thepatriot4355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    Epiphone have been making high quality crafted guitars since 2019 its awesome to see Epiphone making high end guitars again like they did way back in the past Les Paul would be proud today of his Epiphones

    • @thepatriot4355
      @thepatriot4355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@creamwobbly the 2019 Epiphone Exclusive Deluxe G400 Sg Pro limited run is what I'm actually talking about they are now going on the used market for up to $600.00 plus their run was short and they have gone up in Value and are collectable I was offered $650 for mine and the answer was no and always will be No..

    • @erockscott1184
      @erockscott1184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      My 2003 Les Paul custom is awesome...they have been good for some time now they are just getting more recognized now.

    • @thepatriot4355
      @thepatriot4355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@erockscott1184 Epiphone is now using Caps instead of veneer Epiphone should be getting the recognition considering Les Paul invented his solid body guitar the Log in the Epiphone factory 10 years before Gibson was even a thought...Les Paul had been involved with Epiphone from 1940 up until his death in August 2009..long before he joined up with Gibson

    • @thepatriot4355
      @thepatriot4355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@erockscott1184 Epiphone - 1873 Gibson - 1902 so whose you're daddy Gibson

    • @batphink2655
      @batphink2655 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'd go back as far as 2015 myself and agree Les Paul would be very proud!

  • @thepatriot4355
    @thepatriot4355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    Epiphone Customs Moderns and prophecy Models are high end guitars and the high end price tags will soon follow its already started

    • @anthonyvalentino9483
      @anthonyvalentino9483 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Absolutely agree

    • @averyplaysguitar
      @averyplaysguitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah

    • @antionetteneal1314
      @antionetteneal1314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah, that is what I have noticed. The budget guitars are not budget anymore. Even a squire costs 4 to 500 now. I would rather buy another aio/wolf guitar.

    • @SionynJones
      @SionynJones 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Indeed they are, what I like so much about the current prophesy models is thier voicing you modern metal voice your traditional PAF voice and a noise cancelling single coil voice.
      What's not to love plus you get to decide between a traditional look or a modern look aged tiger burst is stunning.

    • @jarrusjenkins
      @jarrusjenkins 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I got a Prophecy and its shit.... frets weren't level and the finishing details were poor... and Prophecys dont come with a case.
      Not worth the £800.
      Same with my Epiphone Tony Iommi. Terrible fret work, absolutely garbage tuners (the exact same ones as on my £200 LTD)
      Twice I've been let down and I dont think high end Epiphones are worth the price. I except if it had been a cheaper Epiphone then youd have to make compromises in order for it to be affordable. But the high end ones I had still felt like cheap Epiphones.
      My Gibsons on the other hand are leagues ahead (and so they should be)
      My SG Special, even adjusted for inflation is better value for money than either of my Epiphones were.
      For the same sort of money as a high end Epiphone you're better off with an LTD or Ibanez.

  • @Fretjoe
    @Fretjoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I am 73 so I was playing when Gibson was not priced crazy higher than other brands, they were still more expensive but not stupid high. Also the quality on Epiphone was not where it is today. I have sold guitars now for over 15 years after retiring from my every day job so I have had a lot of time to play a lot of different brands. In today's world there is no way I would pay what Gibson wants for a good model versus what I can get for a mid to high end Epiphone, the difference is just not there for the price difference. In fact I have had customers write me back who purchased a higher end Epiphone and tell me they like it better than the same model Gibson that they own.

    • @mikeg.9238
      @mikeg.9238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are absolutely right , i have 3 Epiphones , an LP studio , SG G400 Pro and a 58' Korina Explorer. Iv'e had no issues at all , they were flawless. The only thing i did was minor truss rod adjustment and lower the action , also string changes. Which i do on all new guitars , but the QC was fantastic and these Epi's are 3x less than an overpriced Gibson's!

    • @carmineredd1198
      @carmineredd1198 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      gibson hasn't made a les paul since 1960. in the 1970s they were plywood, since 1983 they have al ben hollowed out weight relieved garbage except a very few custom shop $10,000 guitar . gibson priced them according to what the 1952-1960 real les pauls are reselling for

    • @221b-l3t
      @221b-l3t หลายเดือนก่อน

      In today's money a Gibson Les Paul cost 5-6 grand in 1958. Gibsons are cheaper compared to average income by a significant margin than "back in my day"...
      1958: Les Paul costs 350 dollars. Average monthly salary around the same.
      Price of a house: 7 grand. A house is 20 times more expensive than q Gibson Les Paul. 20 months salary.
      2024: Gibson Les Paul Standard: 2300 USD. Average house price where I live 900 grand. Average salary still about 1 Les Paul Standard.
      So in 2024 a Les Paul is a months salary (which is less than in the 50s by inflation....) while a house is 390 months salary.
      Why are you complaining about the cost of Gibsons when you probably bought a house for a sandwich and a bj in '63.

  • @WREDog
    @WREDog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Epiphone has been killing it lately. They make incredible guitars not just for the money but an overall incredible guitar.

    • @OddTimeMan
      @OddTimeMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That's why I never really understood when people would say a guitar is "really good...for the money". Does that mean it's a really good guitar because it's cheap? If that same guitar cost double, would it no longer be a "really good" guitar? I believe a good guitar is a good guitar...regardless of price, where it was made, or what name is on the headstock. If it looks good, feels good, plays good, and sounds good, then it IS good.

    • @WREDog
      @WREDog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@OddTimeMan I think what they mean is "I can overlook it's flaws (whatever they may be) cause I'm not paying too much. I can kinda see where they are coming from. I had a Squier Strat growing up and thought it was a nice guitar. However I wouldn't pay $300 for it as that's how much I got a Fender Telecaster for and it blows the Squier away in ever aspect. I do agree though a nice guitar is a nice guitar, and I will still say that Squier is a good guitar.

    • @OddTimeMan
      @OddTimeMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WREDog I think what people mean when they say that is "it's a good bargain", meaning you get a lot for your money. That's easier to understand in my opinion.

  • @jckid66
    @jckid66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I used to work for epiphone.... I remember the elite series... was far superior to what was being made over in the Gibson building... the epiphone elite series scared the hell out of Gibson management

    • @allhavesaidtheirprayers3434
      @allhavesaidtheirprayers3434 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love my Epi 84 Ex Explorer. Bought it in about 2018. Love it, never disappoints. Gibson should be scared. No one needs them or their " look at me" prices.

    • @nellayema2455
      @nellayema2455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep, the Elitist series was fantastic. Japanese made with American electronics, and sub-$1k. The head stock turned some people off, but those guitars were so good, why be so picky? I should have grabbed one when I had the chance. good luck finding one now.

    • @wangd000dle
      @wangd000dle ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love my Epiphone Elitist SG, as much as I love my Gibson SG Special, the Epiphone blows it out of the water

    • @jeromewagschal9485
      @jeromewagschal9485 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I own an elitist Les Paul and a SG and a Byrdland and it's true these are awesome guitars whose quality is as high if not better than my Gibsons...
      When you combine Japanese craftsmanship and attention to detail with American electronics you get something exceptional...
      As for the headstocks I couldn't care less 🙂 I have a lot of Epiphones with the older headstocks, newer ones and Gibsons but I really don't care...
      All I care about is the sound and comfort of the guitars...
      I understand why Gibson got scared back then...

    • @admiralrng6506
      @admiralrng6506 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      the Gibson management fears the Elitist

  • @dragan4658
    @dragan4658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Epiphone guitars are improving in quality, probably since the QC has improved either to switching country of manufacture or just due to due diligence. At any rate the product is improved. Thanks for sharing Max!

    • @SionynJones
      @SionynJones 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Whilest they might say epiphone on the headstock they every bit a Gibson guitar, Gibson built a purpose built factory in China specifically to build epiphone guitars in 2002 instead of using OEM to improve consistency. It was a big risk that payed off. The quality of instruments they make is proof of that.

    • @wesleyzimmerman94
      @wesleyzimmerman94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And someone else is in charge now and he seems to actually care more about Epiphone than the last guy

    • @markrogers7304
      @markrogers7304 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Are they still made in China? I have a 2014 lp epi and don't care for it all that much. Made in China on mine.

    • @carmineredd1198
      @carmineredd1198 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SionynJones prs se are made by cort

    • @pharmerdavid1432
      @pharmerdavid1432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Every country uses German automated guitar making factories now, so country of origin doesn't matter much anymore, they are all excellent guitars - only the wood, hardware and electronics are different - quality is always close to perfect now.

  • @codyrobichaudofficial
    @codyrobichaudofficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Honestly, Epiphone was brilliant quality before Gibson bought them and made them their "affordable" brand, but even so, their quality has gone back to high and the difference between a high-end Epiphone and a Gibson isn't that far off. Brilliant video!

    • @221b-l3t
      @221b-l3t หลายเดือนก่อน

      Korean ones were good. I have the 58 Korina. 2005 MIK. Put Tonerider AC2 in and CTS pots. It's one of my best and I have a Gibson 58 V. Not a custom shop, old 58 reissue in cherry. Also awesome. I want the new Epiphone though... I'm a 58 V maniac.

    • @221b-l3t
      @221b-l3t หลายเดือนก่อน

      Like for instance the fretwork. I can get super super low action like on my Ibanez. Real rosewood fretboard, not even Gibsons have that anymore. Everyone consantly compliments it and the tone.

  • @pedraw
    @pedraw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    just my .02 cents is if you're playing it in a live situation most in the crowd wouldn't know the difference. Obviously the only ones that notice are probably players themselves and if that means something to you then you have your answer.

    • @Axess-sv8nq
      @Axess-sv8nq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Hit the nail on the head.

    • @averyplaysguitar
      @averyplaysguitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nobody notices the difference, and the people who do don't care

    • @And1slash
      @And1slash 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In some cases you could play a modified Chibson and to some would think it's a legit model
      these days as long as it plays good and does the required jobs then does it matter about brand / price ?

    • @Axess-sv8nq
      @Axess-sv8nq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@And1slash I had one made for me - to my specs for the body + neck - in Jan-Feb of this year. Once I got it here, and I made sure the body was how I wanted it, I spec'd it out with Seymour-Duncans, a roller bridge, Grover tuners, and a GraphTech Tusq nut. The electronics were decent enough. So, I left them in. The thing plays as nicely as any Gibson I've ever had my hands on.
      I do that with just about every guitar I get. I work on them as soon as they arrive and the wood's acclimated. Sometimes, the guitars I get (Epiphone, Firefly, Harley Benton, Ibanez) don't need anything more that a regular, decent, set-up and new strings.
      Yep, names mean zero these days. CNC machines make sure of that. Everyone uses them to make their guitar bodies. The only company I've seen doing VERY intensive stuff (even on their bargain models) after the CNC and basic set-up, is PRS. Their SE models are made by Cort. I had a Cort Les Paul once back in the 1980s. Never should have traded it. But, I was young and stupid.

    • @And1slash
      @And1slash 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Axess-sv8nq It's amazing how far the machines have come over the decades
      once the " budget " guitars were just garbage - average at best but now you can get a great guitar within all budgets ( special mention to the Ibanez Mikro range being killer for the low price )
      though you mentioned the Cort factory and honestly between Unsung korea and the Cort Korea factory ( when they were making them still ) are 2 that I think made the best guitars within the reasonable price range
      And a good setup really does help a average guitar get better too

  • @robspectre1973
    @robspectre1973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    I wish my Gibson played as well as my Epiphone. No, thats not a mistake. Epiphone Les Paul Custom Silverburst that I upgraded (EMG Kerry King set) is an absolute beast. The neck and frets are actually nicer on my Epiphone as well.

    • @SionynJones
      @SionynJones 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You get duff guitars where ever they made just the nature of hand made stuff.

    • @robburridge7633
      @robburridge7633 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have 3 Epiphone Flying Vs, one of them has P90s. It is an absolute beast of a guitar. The only thing that spoils an otherwise brilliant guitar is that it is headstock heavy and will dip if you don't keep it under control!

    • @jmabs5096
      @jmabs5096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have the same situation, 2021 Gibson sg limited edition olive drab USA SME exclusive, vs my 2019 epiphone les paul standard pro. My epiphone holds tune and ACTUALLY INONATES. My sg while I love it simply can't justify another Gibson....

    • @lianflowers9177
      @lianflowers9177 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The 90's epiphones we have here in Brazil rock the absolute shit out ov the Gibsons USA we have here now

    • @scottclark7592
      @scottclark7592 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      the main difference you will find with the frets is lifespan- I have a magic epiphone-but the frets are the weak point.

  • @gregsmith4406
    @gregsmith4406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’ve been playing Epiphones for years. Love them. I just picked up the black Flying V. It’s so cool and plays so well. Thanks for your video.

  • @TheMaxKids
    @TheMaxKids 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Can attest. I bought one of these V’s in a pawn shop several years ago. Basically brand new. I plugged it into a solid state Marshall and had the entire store (customers as well) surrounding me watching the jam. I bought it for $350 and it blows many of my Gibsons away. Also kills my friends 2 Gibson V’s. Just a great instrument.

    • @RByrne
      @RByrne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like the new V, except that for me it's a pain to hold. The bumper helps but it's not great. I prefer the Explorer or Firebird

    • @michaelcantinieri7890
      @michaelcantinieri7890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its still only an Epiphone for $350

    • @pharmerdavid1432
      @pharmerdavid1432 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RByrne Use a guitar strap - problem solved (even sitting down)!

    • @RByrne
      @RByrne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelcantinieri7890 yep. I never take the whole "blows any Gibson away" talk seriously. In what way? Tone? BS. I've been playing epiphones and Gibsons for 30 years, since i was 8, and have yet to find an Epiphone that's as good as its Gibson counterpart. The LP 59 is a good playing instrument, but it looks terrible and cheap. Like the top was airbrushed. Also, Epiphones QC is shit lately, and Gibson's is better than ever. Not saying Epiphones are bad guitars, at all. They are excellent, but Gibson are on another level.

  • @kierankilpatrick9251
    @kierankilpatrick9251 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I owned a gibson. Had to sell it. Loved that thing. It was my 4th guitar. Haven't picked up a guitar that had such easy playability. Actually gifted me good vibrato. Now I have a Stadium. Cheap, but I learned a lot having played a guitar that doesn't absolutely kill your hand muscles. I think gibsons are worth the money in that regard. But, the passion to play doesn't include a brand. If you love playing, you'll pick up any guitar and enjoy the experience. And thats what it's all about

  • @christopherhorton4634
    @christopherhorton4634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Epiphone has been knocking out of the park with all of the ones I have reviewed the past year, Max. It is CRAZY! The Prophecy Series is really mind blowing for the price. The Explorers from last year were amazing too! I will proudly play an Epiphone, these days. great video...as always!

    • @sleevelessace
      @sleevelessace ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah the whole inspired by gibson series is so good i have the 50s standard les paul and wow..... i dont have one bad thing to say its everything u would want from a 50s les paul, i havnt tried the 60s variant but from what ive seen and heard they are also very good

  • @ludwiglanestudios
    @ludwiglanestudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I find the same thing for PRS. The SE customs are FAN-FRIGGIN-TASTIC. The SE models are enough for the gigging guitarist. Of course, you can tell the heighten difference in quality and craftsmanship when you pick up a CE, S2 or Core models, but all models a have impeccable quality control. Not to mention, they are all beautiful.
    I guess technology has gotten so good that it doesn't matter what country those guitars come out of.

  • @stonebcb1
    @stonebcb1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought a 2021 Epiphone Prophecy SG recently on a whim. I've owned close to 40 guitars over the years (ranging from low to high end), and it easily lands in the top 5. Excellent quality and sound. I never thought I'd be an Epiphone convert, but here I am.

  • @bobbwest
    @bobbwest 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always great content! Thanks for all you do. I bought my 16 y/o son a used Epiphany Les Paul Custom Pro Limited Edition Koa and he is quite proud of it. He has zero Gibson envy and believes his guitar is actually better than many Gibson Les Paul editions. He bought a Squier Affinty Kit a few years back (with his own money), played it pretty regularly for 6 mos. Or so, then put it down for a couple of years. He picked it back up about six months ago and he has been progressing like crazy - practices 2-3 hours EVERY DAY! I also upgraded him to a modeling amp with much more power than his Squier kit amp. Simply providing him with an instrument that he truly loves keeps his interest in guitar burning. I know a tiny bit about guitars (I’m picking it back up again after more than 50 years), and I’ll have to say that his Epiphone is an extremely high quality instrument, beautifully finished with great hardware and electrics. Needless to say, we are big Epiphone fans. Thanks again for another great review!

    • @bobbwest
      @bobbwest 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A pox on spell check!

  • @jgalloway01
    @jgalloway01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have this guitar, amazing instrument. I did find that the bridge was threaded into the pick guard on the lower post near the tone/vol controls. I installed a treaded insert to make it the same as the other and solid to the wood. Defiantly check under your pick guard and control cavity. I also have an Epiphone Wildkat. Great guitars...

  • @robertwillett4122
    @robertwillett4122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I bought a dot, they said ( pawn shop ) that the neck was warped so I said would you take 50 bucks. They took it. When I got it home I adjusted the neck. Fiddled around with it for about an hour. It was one of the best guitars I've owned. That was 20 years ago, still plays like butter, and awesome tone ! Great guitar. I do, ofcourse love Gibson, the name just means you'll get way better resale.

  • @jasonstallworth
    @jasonstallworth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dude, I recently compared the Gibson vs Epiphone ‘59 re-issue. The only major difference was the pickup in the Gibson sounded better but there was really no difference in playability or anything else.

  • @flatstheflounder9874
    @flatstheflounder9874 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    2021 Epiphones literally blow the Norlin Era Gibson's right off the planet

    • @kingofdragontown9680
      @kingofdragontown9680 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel like it's mostly because Epiphones will experiment with the guitars more than Gibson will.
      Also, I like the Vyvyan profile picture.

  • @jeffvargo1068
    @jeffvargo1068 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Own a 82 Gibson Heritage Korina Flying for 39 years ….bought a Epiphone Korina Flying V last year…changed a few things….Pickups ,Pots,Keys and Logo ….plays and sounds as good if not better than my Vintage Gibson…..Don’t have to worry when I take it out for rehearsals and gigs…Great Guitar 🎸 ZZounds AMS music still sells new Epiphone…….Korina Vs, Explorer’s and Moderne’s

  • @Guitarjosii
    @Guitarjosii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was shocked. I have a 1968 Gibson SG Special, which is my absolutely dream guitar. I was worried about it, so I thought I should look for a cheap backup guitar. So I bought a Epiphone SG Classic P90 Worn. I bought it second hand for $200 and it arrived a couple of days ago. And I can't believe my ears, how similar it sounds compared to the Vintage Gibson. It plays so great, it sounds amazing.... it's crazy.

  • @FERDON73
    @FERDON73 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have 2007 model of this Epiphone Flying V. It has a rosewood fingerboard as opposed to Paleo Fareo. Although I don’t hear much of a difference between the 2. Wood is wood.
    I paid 312$ for mine as a scratch a as and dent/demo model from guitar center in 2007. I’ve loved it ever since.
    I love how you have the neck pick up flipped ala’ Peter Green. I did that to mine as well. Add definition to the neck pickup. I also swapped out the .22 cap for a .47 cap on the tone. It added a bunch of bottom to it without sacrificing the highs.
    Other than that it’s stock.
    Truley and well crafted easy playing and light guitar.
    Great review. Keep it up my man

  • @tysonmielke7427
    @tysonmielke7427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought one of these new and I love it. Sounds great. Stays in tune well, and just fun to play overall. Thanks for doing the demo. I learned a few things I didn't know.

  • @rocktorrocks
    @rocktorrocks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got an Epiphone Les Paul in 2005, and though it was a good guitar, still left a lot to be desired. I told myself I’d only get Gibsons moving forward, but some of these new epiphones have genuinely been tempting me. I still think the current Gibsons are better guitars (they should be at more than twice the price) but the gap between Gibson and Epiphone is smaller than ever, especially on models like the 59’ and Lazarus model.

    • @robertemerson1087
      @robertemerson1087 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m pretty sure I haven’t even picked up an Epiphone after I got a Gibson.

  • @dan8402
    @dan8402 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    To good, no. Epiphone is a great price point and they have really put a lot of effort into the quality for price package. That is a win for all of us.

    • @fredriksvard2603
      @fredriksvard2603 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They get outclassed by almost every brand in the price bracket, harley benton, ibanez, schecter, vintage, jet, gretsch, sire. Should be in the squier range with the nicer models priced like classic vibe. They were lifeless in the past, people have hyped them up so i tried them again and: nice colors and designs. Still lifeless.

  • @roentgen571
    @roentgen571 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The last 10 years+, Epiphone seems to be spreading out a bit, being more of their own brand, with models that aren't just cheaper versions of Gibson's models. All the lower and mid-priced brands and models have improved in quality vastly over the last 20 years because manufacturing quality has gotten so much better.

  • @luskvideoproductions869
    @luskvideoproductions869 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Perfect! You've basically sold me on getting an Epi V, been thinking about it, and I really like my faded cherry Gibby V...but I too think that we are reaching a critical mass point on production processes, to the point that Epis can be just as good as Gibbys. I may be a V snob, but I'm not a Gibby snob, so if I can get the things I LIKE about a Gibby V on an Epi (plus other options, AND it's cheaper)...well hell, I'll just get that Epi lol

  • @mortonwilson795
    @mortonwilson795 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Late to the party but thanks for this! Good question and perfect timing. I recently bought the Epi 1959 LP and it comes with Gibson electronics, so 'best of both worlds', really. I own a 1968 LP Custom and have played quite a few Gibsons thru the years (I was a guitar salesman late 70's and we used to get 'first pick' of all new Gibsons arriving in NZ). The Epi 59 is a lovely piece of work. I also picked up a 2020 Epi Casino last year (Beatles, right?) and love it. I think the build and 'craft' of Epis is great, it comes down to the electronics . . . the Casino is good BUT I'm banging in some Lollar P90s + 50's Loom . . . just 'cos. The Gibson /Epiphone showroom in HK is big so it's easy to compare the same model from both on the spot and the gap is certainly narrowing - difficult to justify such a huge price difference, frankly, and Gibson QC is sometimes a bit off. The Epi Jerry Cantrell 'Wino' LP is arriving in HK in a coupla weeks - looks v interesting for what it is, let's see? Thanks again for the review!

    • @NoobOnATele
      @NoobOnATele 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great read, thanks!

  • @adamtucker3128
    @adamtucker3128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I picked up one of the Coronet reissues recently and I have to say, the quality is off the scale these days. The fretwork is astonishing for what is a very affordable guitar. Gibson could learn a lot from Epiphone's QC these days.

  • @ericbgordon1575
    @ericbgordon1575 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Aw Max, this is *KILLING ME!* I've already got a V-shape guitar and am trying to *END* my gear acquisition syndrome, not indulge it! How *DARE* you make this model so damn desirable to me!

    • @GuitarMAXMusic
      @GuitarMAXMusic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      If you can hold out for a little longer... a little birdie told me that there's going to be some really cool and reeeeally affordable V's coming out soon!

    • @ericbgordon1575
      @ericbgordon1575 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I appreciate that nugget of advice,
      @@GuitarMAXMusic, as well as your response.

    • @FoodFolksandGuns
      @FoodFolksandGuns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He’s referring to the V and Explorer copies coming out soon from Firefly

    • @ericbgordon1575
      @ericbgordon1575 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Naturally. Thanks for the expanded clarification,@@FoodFolksandGuns.

  • @DoodlesGaming
    @DoodlesGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    With you mentioning the Gibson faded models. The first Gibson I ever played was a faded SG in 2005 and it was £499 new, and that was when an Epiphone SG was £300, so not much more money to get into Gibson, those were the days.

  • @joehahn8817
    @joehahn8817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey man, great demo!!!
    I had a Prophecy Flying-V and I couldn't wait to get rid of the piece o' shit!!!
    The fret ends were sharp enough to cut wood and the neck dive was criminally insane!!! The Fishman pups are one trick ponies. The battery compartment door was warped where you had to pry it open with your pick. It had a poorly finished nut. I'll stop there, by now I think you get the point.
    I do have two Epi Les Pauls that I absolutely love though.
    I got one of the Epi '59 Les Pauls and it literally cured my GAS!!! I shit you not!!!
    The other one is an old Plus Top PRO that's pretty sweet.
    The ProBuckers sound good enough to keep.
    I had real high hopes for the Prophecy but it just wasn't in the cards...🙁 No more "pointy" guitars for me...lol

  • @PIlotrcm
    @PIlotrcm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got a Epiphone korina Explorer last winter.
    Great guitar for the money.
    I had to polish the frets and adjust the action, truss rod, etc. but plays wonderfully after the adjustments.
    I’m looking at replacing/upgrading the pickups. Anyway….
    …it’s interesting you say it’s Korina.
    Examining all the cut joints on the body, it’s clear mine is 3 pieces, with a solid veneer on the back and top.
    Is that Korina or Mahogany? I can’t tell the difference visually, the two types of wood look so similar to me. I’ve been told that it’s Korina veneer and mahogany body…..Korina veneer, Korina body, and others saying it’s all Mahogany and just called “Korina” in homage to the originals.
    What do you think?

  • @luthravin4774
    @luthravin4774 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Bonamassa Amos 58’ V was $800+ new.. and today they are selling on Reverb for over $2000…. Great Video.. awesome info!! I won’t even mention my Epi 58’ Korina Explorer made in 2000 from Korea!! Wow!!

  • @oldguy5381
    @oldguy5381 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I purchased my Epiphone Corina V from American Musical 599.99 brand new. Sounds fantastic well worth the money. Got it in September of this year. Now I’m looking at the Explorer Corina same price. Max makes it scream thanks Maxx

  • @AJ-wh1tw
    @AJ-wh1tw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I’ve been playing guitar for over 25 years, including professionally for a time. I have owned and played a number of Gibsons over the years, wasn’t impressed with the one Epiphone SG I had back in the late 90s-early 00s. I got away from the either for a long time in favor of Jackson and B.C. Rich, but I just bought a gold ‘21 Epiphone SG Traditional Pro that I tried out after seeing a review for it. Twenty years ago Epiphone couldn’t hold a candle to a real Gibson, but this thing runs circles around all but the highest end Gibsons I’ve played. It both looks and plays better than my old SG standard, at a third of the price of even that relatively base model. I’m definitely appreciating what the changes in Epiphone have meant for their quality and when I need to add something else to my home studio I will definitely be looking at another Epiphone first because I know I can get something that’s going to do it’s job without having to spend every penny I have on it.

    • @SionynJones
      @SionynJones 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Epiphone is new era the new ownership has given epiphone name the respect it deserves.

    • @fredriksvard2603
      @fredriksvard2603 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seems to be hit and miss, the old ones sucked for sure. Tried the new ones and i found them pretty but lifeless. Dull. Maybe they vary from example to example, idk. I don't see the point chasing after them though, there are so many good brands in the price range and i dont care about the gibson association, i think its a negative even.

  • @mariolopez7718
    @mariolopez7718 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I sanded off the finish of my Epiphone Flying V goth and found out it has a Korina body... I stopped and left it kind of a translucent black. Looks lovely and put on a set of humbucker sized P90s. My favorite guitar!!

  • @Zoso981
    @Zoso981 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I own a new 2021 Epiphone Korina Explorer. I had bought it with plans to do upgrades, but it doesn't need any. It's actually a killer guitar. It surprised the Hell out of me when I unboxed it.

  • @bigjohnson9561
    @bigjohnson9561 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just purchased a new Epiphone J45 and the quality is great! I'm impressed with the quality and tone. Fit to finishing is awesome. Tone is second to none. I'm really happy with my purchase. Did I mention this is my first Epiphone? Yes!!!

  • @randymiles904
    @randymiles904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I've always been a fan of Epiphone. I've got the gothic sg, and a Les Paul plus top pro that I've upgraded and they're great.

    • @mikeg.9238
      @mikeg.9238 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same , i have the LP Studio and the SG G400 Pro and they are awesome guitars for the price!

    • @randymiles904
      @randymiles904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mikeg.9238 absolutely. A proper setup, and some premium hardware makes the difference. That's a large part of the price difference in import and USA models. The setup and fit and finish. I can take a $300 guitar, work a little magic on it, and you would think it was a $1000 guitar. Ive got several $1000 guitars I've modded and setup. Most people that play them like them better than their USA instruments. Lol

    • @mikeg.9238
      @mikeg.9238 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@randymiles904 Absolutely right , actually i prefer to spend less if it's a well built guitar , like an Ibanez or something. I still have my Ibanez GRX70 , i think it was around $225 with tax , i threw in some SD invaders in and put on locking tuners. The neck just feels to good and it's well made , i still enjoy playing it even though i have guitars that are worth 4x as much. Like you said spend less and customize to preference!✌👍🤘

    • @randymiles904
      @randymiles904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mikeg.9238 NICE! That's how you do it! I love beefing up guitars. You can really make a good guitar great. 🤘

    • @mikeg.9238
      @mikeg.9238 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@randymiles904 Exactly!🤘

  • @seapod
    @seapod 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally a new Guitar Max video. Started thinking you went full time on your other channel. Good pick on the guitar I've been curious to learn about these.

  • @williambadenhop4920
    @williambadenhop4920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've never experienced neck dive on any of the flying v's that I have had. but I had a 78 explorer that did. I handled it by putting a couple of fishing weights in the volume/tone pot compartment, and fastened them with some epoxy putty. sounds a little silly I know, but heck, it worked for me. give it a try.

    • @robertwillett4122
      @robertwillett4122 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mr. WILLIAM BADENHOP , Good Sir. I hate neck dive. In fact I had just bought that new De Angelica semi hollow body. Had a great tone, but the neck was a little to narrow. I could have lived with that, but the size and the weigh of that headstock. It does look cool, but the neck dive was the deal breaker. I was thinking about adding weigh to counter act it, but that's one reason I bought it. It is lite, and I have a bad back. So I returned it. Why do they make there headstock so dam heavy. They have to know it has terrible neck dive. You think they would do something about it. Oh well, another one bites the dust. Stay safe...

  • @Axess-sv8nq
    @Axess-sv8nq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    As a guitarist, and vintage Gibson OWNER, who has also played many Gibsons over the decades, I can say WITH CONFIDENCE that the Epiphones that have come out in the past 2 years have (after a good set-up) been on the SAME level as any Gibson I've ever played. Out-of-the-box, Gibsons have the same problems as other guitars. I know techs in many guitar shops in my area - and in places I've lived. The Gibsons aren't magically problem-free or superior quality - despite the high prices and the marketing hype.

    • @tonyschram1260
      @tonyschram1260 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      True,what your paying for is higher labor cost and that Gibson logo on the headstock.In the end what matters is what players like and what it sounds like,what it is is irrelevant.

    • @Axess-sv8nq
      @Axess-sv8nq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tonyschram1260 A Gibson is more a 'status symbol' than anything else. People have serious 'Confirmation Bias' about that brand.

    • @jarrusjenkins
      @jarrusjenkins 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I respectfully disagree, I've had 2 Epiphones now and I wont be buying another one, I've had 2 Gibsons now.... and I WILL be buying another in the future.
      2020 Epiphone SG Prophecy £800
      2018 Epiphone SG Tony Iommi £700
      2004 Gibson SG Special £500
      2005 Gibson SG Supreme £1600
      All bought new....
      Adjusted for inflation the SG special comes in at roughly £750 and represents way better value for money than either of the Epiphones.
      Fit and finish is superior and it also came with a gig bag which was extra for the Epiphone.
      Tony Iommi came with cheap no name tuners (same as on my £200 LTD) crap fret work, and very little neck back angle which required me to grind the bridge inserts down.
      Prophecy wasnt as bad but still not as well done as an £800 guitar should be. Frets needed leveling before it became playable and the binding had loads of sharp edges and tool marks on it.
      Plenty of other manufacturers offer higher quality products for similar prices and that whom I shall be buying from now.
      (I also wasnt impressed with PRS SE range either)
      From my experience, Korea seems to be knocking out the best value for money guitars IMO.
      You are paying more for a Gibson because it is a higher quality product.

    • @Axess-sv8nq
      @Axess-sv8nq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jarrusjenkins So, you bought 2 Epiphones. One had serious issues, and the other wasn't to your tastes. And you judge all Epiphones to be crap because of that? Sounds like your bias was well in place beforehand. Remember, I own a Gibson currently and have played many of them in the 43+ years I've been playing. There's no magic. They're NOT better quality. Spend your money how you want. Your opinions are your own. But, judging an entire brand to be garbage based on 1-2 examples is ridiculous.
      I've seen Gibsons with the same problems that many have mentioned: sharp fret ends, tool marks, uneven frets, bad electronics, bad bridge, nut issues with string grabbing, poorly cut nuts, rough tuners, and cosmetic flaws. No guitar company is infallible. But, because of social bias and tradition, Gibsons have a higher resale value. So, people gravitate toward them. But, higher resale value and social bias are not, and never have been, indicators of high quality. Names don't automatically make a guitar a great quality guitar.
      I'd put ANY of my guitars up against Gibsons, Fenders (of which I've owned/played many), PRS (I own one of those, too). I've done it many, many, times, and received praises from many of the rock stars whose songs I've covered including Peter Frampton, Neal Schon (Journey), Queensryche, and others. So, while your personal bias is in place, that's fine for you. Whatever floats your boat. But, don't ever think your biases are universal. Ever.

    • @jarrusjenkins
      @jarrusjenkins 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Axess-sv8nq both of them had issues.... and how else am I supposed to judge them? Keep buying them untill I get a "good" one?
      I should of returned the Prophecy but I figured instead of returning it just level frets (probably done a better job as well)
      And yes I am very much "biased" because I've drew those conclusions based on my personal experience...
      And you've drew your conclusions based on your personal experience but because my personal experience doesn't align with yours I'm wrong?
      I would still buy a Gibson but at the moment they arent shipping any of there new stuff to Europe for a while so they can catch up on production. So it could be a long time before that happens....
      But the way everyone goes on about Epiphone like it's some god tier brand... I just dont see it, if it turned out both of the ones I had were really good then I would have gladly said "why bother buying a Gibson?"

  • @CrushingAxes
    @CrushingAxes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have an Epiphone Les Paul Standard, it's kind of an old guitar, I think I bought in 2007, I have the EMG 81/85. Really love the guitar, groover tuners and slim taper neck, sounds great ! I've been thinking about getting a flying v too.

  • @angelmatos9143
    @angelmatos9143 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The respect they’re getting is impressive

  • @markdakel9253
    @markdakel9253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent review, very valid points
    there is nothings you could not do with that Epiphone that you could do with a Gibson.

  • @theopolisrenfro2581
    @theopolisrenfro2581 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't think that the flying V was invented and used? Thanks for info ,always nice to learn something.

  • @pigland882
    @pigland882 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had got one 4 years ago. The very one in your video. When I picked it up and looked down at the bridge I couldn't believe what I saw. The pins on the bridge were bent forward. When I got to looking at everything, it was as if the jig they used to drill the wholes was set back about 1/4 of an inch. So to fix it they bent the pins of the bridge forward. I got it from an online store that thankfully took it back. It was on sale and a decent deal. I now build my own guitars. I won't turn back. Even some of my Gibsons have flaws I had to fix.

  • @pattayaguideorg
    @pattayaguideorg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bought a white 91 made, Epiphone, 67 reissue, Flying V in 2004, still got it, love it, my favorite guitar of all time.
    At the moment I am comparing a $100 Chinese made Les Paul, to my friends $5,000 Gibson Les Paul Studio. There is no comparison to the craftsmanship, the Gibbo wins by a country mile, but if I was to do a blind fold test... I would choose the copy! it actually sounds better, is just as playable after setting up and looks like a million bucks, the name on the headstock don't mean squat anymore. Good vid man.

  • @chemmii
    @chemmii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The reason that Gibson made such a name for themselves is first and foremost because back at the beginning, there were few good American guitar makers. That meant the choices were limited and most of the great players either went for Gibson or fender based on the fact that those great players that came before them pretty much used those two makes.!!
    By the sixties and seventies, practically all new and rising stars or bands, were just following the leaders such as Clapton, the beatles, Rolling Stones, and later Deep Purple, Hendrix, and the lists go on.!!
    Now.. and especially in the last two decades, we have so many makers across the planet making guitars, good and great guitars, that had this been the case back in the 50-60's. Going forward, with no patent infringements form stopping copyright laws etc., neither Fender or Gibson would have become and stayed the outright leaders they became.!!
    My first good guitar was a Gibson 12 string back in 1967, which I played until Ovation came out with their guitars at a measly
    $350.00 for a six string folklore with hard shell case.!! It was the best acoustic guitar I have ever owned I I still kick myself in the ass for selling it to get a Gibson SG for ( at that time $1,100.00 without a hard shell case.!! At that point and going forward I never bought another American made guitar.!!
    My one and only guitar now is a DBZ
    ( DEAN ZALINSKY) BARCHETTA
    Which is a cross breed of a fender Stratacaster And a Gibson Lee Paul in my opinion.! It is stock and I can play anything on it and it sounds great.!!
    Cost, new my price... $ 320.00 plus $ 28.00 shipping.! ( this was just after the Dean blow up with the amp company partner split ways.!! The deal of a life time as far as I am concerned.!! And unlike the Ovation blunder I made....this will never be sold.!!
    So bottom line is this, Fender and Gibson have been living off a long lost reputation, even though they are both capable of making great guitars, Their pricing makes them worthless to me and I'm sure many other players who are not great players but music lovers .... Not set on being well known artist, just lovers of guitars and music working in other industries for a living.!! Guys that either play at home and maybe record, or get together with other friends and players just to jam and have a good time.!!
    My advice for everyone is to shop and play as many guitars of every brand you can til you ring that guitar that blows you away.!! Then buy it and never sell it no matter what.!! Don't become an ass kicker like I became for selling the best acoustic I ever played or heard outside of a friends Martin D35 dread naught which equalled that ovation, but did not surpass it and didn't cost $ 3,500.00 either.!!

  • @sirdarklust
    @sirdarklust 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have Epiphones, like a Sheraton II Pro, SG (with the push pull pots) and the Explorer korina bass. All of them are excellent. In fact, the Sheraton II was purchased because I saw no point in an equivalent Gibson just to have a Gibson name on my half hollow. As for the Explorer bass, I have had experienced bassists tell me that it rivals any $2,000 Fender or Gibson bass. In sum, unless you need the Gibson name plate and the slightly - I stress slightly - better finish and, maybe, hardware, save the money, get an Epiphone and use the savings for a nice amp. Also, I know Epiphone has gone up in quality, but I hear people say actual Gibsons have declined in quality. True or not? I'd like to know. Finally, I own an early 1990s Gibson Flying V (black/white pick guard) and love it.

    • @bluesrocker91
      @bluesrocker91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Sheraton name has a history and prestige all of it's own... They first came out the same week as Gibson launched the 335, and while it's not as famous or iconic, a good number of great players have used Sheratons and Sheraton IIs over the decades. Same is true for the Casino and Riviera too.

    • @Mephilis78
      @Mephilis78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you for the honesty. Instead of just hating on Gibson lol

    • @cosmicrevival7105
      @cosmicrevival7105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My girlfriend owns the Gibson LP Standard 60s in Iced-Tea and it's such a fantastic guitar. Much better than any Epiphone LP I've ever played. Going to buy the Standard 50s in HCS in a couple of days. Yes, they are expensive and it was no easy decision but I think their current lineup and QC is worth it.

    • @bluesrocker91
      @bluesrocker91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cosmicrevival7105 I have the same one... '60s Standard in Ice Tea.
      It really is a great guitar... Just feels so well put together.

    • @cosmicrevival7105
      @cosmicrevival7105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bluesrocker91 Exactly, they are great guitars. Really curious for the new Epiphone masterbilt all solid wood 12 string Hummingbird. Going to get that one as soon as my Harley Benton 12 string is sold - hopefully by January.

  • @baax
    @baax 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought an Extura, it is a beautiful sounding guitar and finished so well, love it!

  • @guitarflyer172
    @guitarflyer172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Here we go again. All the comments dogging Gibson! Get over it people. Epiphone makes a good guitar and so does Gibson. You don’t have to keep dogging a brand to make yourself feel better! Gibson is better period! Get over it already!

  • @eddyguizonde401
    @eddyguizonde401 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the 58 korina v has been my mainstay for 15 years and counting. had a gibson, sold it. went back to the epi. it outplays guitars that cost its quadruple. let me say i bought it new for 400€ in 2006. it's gigged, got its pickup switched for a pair of dimarzio super distortion bridges (yes, even the neck), but it came out the factory with grover tuners, never went out of tune, never failed me but the electronics that i swapped. all i did was switch the strings and strap buttons around since i'm left handed. even upside down it's rock solid. best playing guitar i ever owned

  • @speedunknown
    @speedunknown 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve been studying Epiphones for years. Their manufacturing Turing reminds me of Hapan back in the 60’s. The cinders manufactures will get there. We’ve only to give them time. The 2020 inspired by Gibson Epiphones pretty much speak for themselves. I own 2, along with my many Gibson guitars. I believe there will come a time when Epiphone guitars will appreciate in value. Perhaps not as well as Gibsons, but they will.

  • @batphink2655
    @batphink2655 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an Epiphone 1960 Les Paul Tribute Plus in Black Cherry and it not only looks amazing (just got a pickguarg for it) but it plays as good as any Gibson I've tried .Plus it actually comes stock with Gibson Classic 57 pickups and wiring!

  • @MetalProfessor65
    @MetalProfessor65 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just ordered an Epiphone Prophecy V. (Retail therapy: my dog--arguably my best friend other than my wife--just died.) I really wanted a Ritchie Faulkner model but couldn't find one I can afford. But I've yet to see a review for the Prophecy V that is anything less than enthusiastic, and your assessment of access to the upper frets on these modern Epiphone V's (the Prophecy looks as good as the Korina in that regard) tipped the balance.

  • @yobanyhernandez125
    @yobanyhernandez125 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My epiphone SG 400 pro from 2017 is what they now call the “61 standard”. It honestly plays like a dream. Even more so after I made my own modifications and upgrades to it.. I haven’t held a guitar in my hands yet that beat it.

  • @danzielinski5036
    @danzielinski5036 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I personally own a 1980 Gibson 'V'. Bought it used in 1990. I still have it to this day because its fretboard/ neck is parallel to the body. I mean if you look at it from the side it does not have an angled neck as the Explorer or Les Paul does. Made of RED mahogany. Nice, dense, good, and weighty, gave me a SCORPIONS crunch like nothing else and a beautiful clean tone.
    Told that part of the story to bring this story. About a year back I was with my son at a shop in the Chicago area, SAM ASH music. Gibson and Epiphone dealer.
    My 'V' in 1991 cost me $350.oo used.
    This one day I decided to see what was so great about this $1100+ dollar 'V' that they had On the wall behind the counter.
    Asked them for a test drive.
    It looked like the 1980 reissue with a sharper headstock and clear laminate wood finish.
    Holding it, it was MUCH lighter than my 1980. I inquired what wood it was made of and the
    sales dude stated MAHOGANY.
    This was way too light for mahogany.
    I asked my son 12 feet away from me, who was in a woods class in Highschool. out of earshot of the sales guy, He told me right out, "Dad that's not mahogany this is Korina."
    I don't think the salesperson was fibbing, more like misinformed, because he's been honest with us every time we set foot into that shop.
    As I sat there strumming, something just didn't feel right. Frets were on the high end, played rather crappy, and didn't stay in tune. It just didn't seem worth the stinking high price that Gibson is marketing them. The guitar was so disappointing that I had no interest in remotely plugging it into an AMP.
    It breaks my heart that my favorite guitar company whose quality was so second to none at one time is now only interested in its corporate name than the quality of the product for the price tag.
    Before test driving that 'V', l had been at that shop plenty of other times where they had Epiphone's everywhere.
    EPIPHONE has a better product and smaller bill. I had my eye on an Epiphone explorer before I decided to build an inexpensive DIY kit due to lack of $$$.
    I'm no pro, I play as a hobby, BUT If I had the cash, I'd go Epiphone.
    Gibson isn't worth the time or the cash. Not since the list price went from $475, when I bought my Gibson Explorer in 1994 to over $1000, at the turn of the century.
    Not worth it.

  • @FrankJmClarke
    @FrankJmClarke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing about Korina Vs is that the Korina Gibsons are particularly expensive, so the Epi is an extra good deal. You can swap the Classic pickups for ProBuckers really cheaply if you want a more 1958 tone (the Bonamassa version has the Probuckers), the Classic bridge is fairly hot. I really like my Epi Korina V!

    • @adamwatson6916
      @adamwatson6916 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would take it further and put gibson pickups in .epphones with gibson pickups sound better then they do with probuckers . Get a high end epiphones and put custombuckers in it and it will blow away any stock epi .

  • @christoguichard4311
    @christoguichard4311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Same with Squier.
    Especially the CV's.

  • @mikemclean6242
    @mikemclean6242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Based on my personal experience (3 gibson LPs, 2 epis, and a few other knock offs over the last 20 years)....Absolutely, the gap between Gibson and Epiphone has closed substantially. My summarized observations....
    1. The price difference is primarily method of construction (not quality). ie: maple veneer vs flame maple top, using CNC to minimize hand finishing, cheaper labor costs....
    2. The actual sound difference is quite difficult to distinguish to someone who is just listening to you play....
    3. The playability gap has closed substantially. It's a matter of preference....ie: Nitro finish vs poly.
    They are different guitars....but in my view, there is no justification for Gibson prices from a "this a better guitar" standpoint anymore.

    • @michaelcantinieri7890
      @michaelcantinieri7890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you want a KIA or a Cadillac ?

    • @dontsaythetruthytwillkillu5784
      @dontsaythetruthytwillkillu5784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelcantinieri7890 Nice attempt and conflating guitars with automobiles, but to be honest I'd take a Kia over a Cadi any day. Better quality, better reliability, better gas mileage, better style, etc etc etc.
      You keep overpaying for crap gibos. I'll buy 3 or 4 epis for the price of your one and laugh at you all day.
      I've owned many Gibsons and can afford custom shop prices, but I ain't a fool. Going on 5 decades of playing, so I might know a thing or two.

  • @marcozarattini1854
    @marcozarattini1854 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Max,l am italiano and 30 years ago l bought new a 1992 Gidson Les Paul Standard in L.A....l love that Guitar(Her name's Jolene) and She Is my n.1,but recently,in january l bought an Epiphone Les Paul '50s Standard Gold Top and l can tell you she's a great guitar (Her name's LeAnn)...love the two...l plug the jack between the guitar on my Fender Blues Junior lll and that's all l Need,no effects,no pedals,...only my hands and my tones and volumes on the guitar...great guitars🎸🎸🎸😍😍😍

  • @1Butcher
    @1Butcher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My epiphone are awesome. And stay in tune.

  • @ulascilingir
    @ulascilingir 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just bought an Epi Custom SG 2 months ago and it is one of the best guitars I've ever owned and I owned several high-end US fenders.

  • @GearGasms
    @GearGasms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have difficulty finding the right noodles to play for a clean part of a demo too. The struggle is real 😜

  • @lostreb
    @lostreb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I started playing in 1962 so have been through several evolutions of brands like Epiphone. I remember when Epiphone was first introduced and was one of those "only as a last resort" options. I kept watching the quality of Epiphone approaching Gibson to the point where they are today!! In all honesty, I didn't consider purchasing an Epiphone until "After" the Infamous Lawsuit Video, and I was like, I'm done!!! (Done with the BS around the "Gibson" name on the headstock.) I since have purchased a couple of Epiphones (and before someone says "That's still buying from Gibson" that is "NOT" supporting the name "Gibson" on the headstock, and when you consider the quality of the Epiphones since that video!?!?!? I saw one comment about the quality of Epiphones produced starting in 2019, so that might be applicable.). For my $$$$, The value of the quality you get for the $$$$ spent, Best Bang For The Bucks (all a variation of the ROI, Return In Investment, Concept), I'll spend my $$$$ on a Epiphone any day over wasting them on a Gibson. Now..."If" in the unlikely scenario Gibson should decide to "Give" me one of their top line Les Paul's!?!?!? Don't even ask if I'd take it. Hell Yeah I would!!! Great Video Max!!!!

    • @dezionlion
      @dezionlion 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      60’s epi’s are way better!

  • @Shred_The_Weapon
    @Shred_The_Weapon ปีที่แล้ว

    In December 202, I gave in and decided to get a V of my own. I searched Reverb, and I found my attention diverted from the Korina and Inspired-by-Gibson models - by a Negative model. That sub-line was manufactured in 2009 and exclusively marketed in Canada. They had white finish, black guard & headstock and a maple finger board. I chose that one for how unique it was among the available V models. I discovered I didn’t need coil splitting. I just like the straight up sound of the buckers (though I did replace the Epiphone buckers with a Gibson set). I probably could dilute myself that I was playing a Gibson, if I didn’t care about reality. The specifications are millimeter per millimeter the same as the original.
    I would say that this is not only an example of Epiphone outdoing Gibson but also holding its own the way it did before Gibson absorb them into their hierarchy 60 years ago. So ironic that the economy company which is within most customers’ price range is serving to double back on the company that owns it, almost like Capital Records doubling back on EMI.

  • @SoulForty5Music
    @SoulForty5Music 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to say the same thing about Squier and Fender. I just got the Squier Classic Vibe 70's Telecaster Deluxe. It's every bit as good as my Fender guitars.

  • @brianseneca3546
    @brianseneca3546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree to an extent. I have this Flying V and for the money you cant beat it, Ive seen Explorers that are a great bargain, but when it comes to Les Paul there is a WORLD of difference. Once again if its in your budget its better than the Hondo II I had in the early 80's but when it comes to a Les Paul (my main guitars) save your money and if nothing else buy a used Standard.

  • @josephhughes9490
    @josephhughes9490 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have Epiphone guitars and I love em. They are definitely giggable and quality sounding with quality hardware and woods. I don't care about brand logos

  • @dougfa3515
    @dougfa3515 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got an Epiphone Les Paul Custom last year and I love it. It has some issues that my Gibson didn't... the jack was kind of loose and the pick guard doesn't fit quite right. Very fixable issues. But it plays well and is light and it sounds good. And it looks great!

  • @GrantBeardsley
    @GrantBeardsley 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video, love my korina Vee too.Pretty sure it has a veneer front and and and back.Very well done too !
    Switched the p/ups for 70s di-Marzios and it sounds SO good ❤

    • @221b-l3t
      @221b-l3t หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh god I took 70s DiMarzio style OUT of my Gibson and replaced both the Epiphone and the Gibson pickups with boutique PAFs. But mine isn't the new custom shop it didn't have Burstbuckers. I would love to have those.

  • @thoughtsbeforesleep
    @thoughtsbeforesleep 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the video, but I was quite surprised to hear you complain about neck dive issues with v-shaped guitars. The primary reason I love v-shaped guitars is the exceptional balance (when played while standing). My Gibson Flying V is 6 pounds, 14 ounces and the balance is perfect. Same with my Schecter and Kiesel v-shaped guitars. The problem with the Epiphone is that they moved the strap pin from the back of the neck up to the side, which ruins everything (and I've seen other reviewers complain about this issue with the Prophecy series). For this reason, I won't be buying a Prophecy even though the other aspects of the model are quite appealing. If they moved the pin back to the proper location I would definitely consider a high-end Epiphone Flying V!

    • @MrClassicmetal
      @MrClassicmetal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't understand how a guitar company doesn't do proper research before making such a change. You'd think they should know better.

  • @lucyfuir6386
    @lucyfuir6386 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I recently purchased a 2021 Epiphone EJ 200 jumbo acoustic. It is beautiful, gorgeous and plays like butter. For 1/8 the price of a Gibson. This is coming from a Gibson player of 25+ years.

  • @suspect794
    @suspect794 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have a 2021 Prophecy Extura and a 2021 Les Paul 60s standard, and they are amazing guitars, dont think a player with my skill would notice a difference between and Gibson and an Epiphone nowadays

  • @TomTobin67
    @TomTobin67 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My wife loves her Tony Iommi SG (heavily modified by me and Eddie Van Halen).

  • @daltonboudreaux1200
    @daltonboudreaux1200 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I absolutely love my Epiphone 58 korina with the black guard

  • @bretspangler8717
    @bretspangler8717 ปีที่แล้ว

    I ordered one, 1958 was my birth year, and having a repro of a super rare cool guitar is all a major plus for me, I ordered a case too, this will be my 4th Epiphone, I have an SG Prophecy, SG Modern and a 60's LP with a beautiful quilted top, so nice I removed the pickguard. I have been really happy with the quality so far, 2 I got had minor blemishes so I saved a few hundred dollars going with that option, life happens, and dents and scratches will be few and far between but not being perfect are much less stressful. I really like the poly finish too, I'm not into the Murphy Lab BS.

  • @darrelseely4817
    @darrelseely4817 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a '98 Epiphone Korina Explorer (pawn shop find) near mint condition. Mid range just pours from the pickups and resonates nicely. All it needed was a fret polish and some attention. [new set of Ernie Ball Hybrids] 🤘

  • @kevinwolf6623
    @kevinwolf6623 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My New Epi V is head and shoulders above the Gibson Vs because of it's balance. Im 52 and the V is now my most comfortable guitar to play. Life is hard on the human body. So now the V is my main guitar.

  • @johnro6659
    @johnro6659 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice review! Korina Epis are great I have a V and Explorer. I love all my Epiphones. Back in the late 70s early 80s I bought a ton of very vintage Gibsons, back when they were cheap! When I sold off my first collection of guitars I had 150 in all 102 were Gibsons from the early 50s thru the mid 70s and some 80s models A V2 and E2 were my favs from the 80s and the two last ones I sold. When I started again about 22 years ago I stopped buying guitars because of the brand on the head stock and looked at guitars for their play ability and sound. I found I could easily pay less for guitars that IMO were just as good some better. Back in the day I wouldn't even consider Epi now I have 168 guitars in the newest collection that are many different brands and only one is a Gibson, an Explorer. I scored the Gibby Exp new at GC for $495.00 with HSC as a managers special. The store was closing and opening in a new area they were trying to thin the stock. Couldn't say no to that one! I have a few Epi Vs and Explorers. Side by side IMO the Gibson and Epi explorers I have are pretty much the same when it comes to tone and feel. Blind folded you could not tell the difference between the two.

  • @frogganator3918
    @frogganator3918 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I picked a Gibson explorer over the Epiphone 58/korina models back in 2011 because of the neck profile. The 60s slim taper D profile is exactly what I want. Every other guitar I've played since buying it just doesn't feel right in my hands anymore. If Epiphone had a flying v or explorer with that neck profile at the time I would have bought an Epiphone and saved half the money I spent. Still don't regret it though, the cherry red explorer turns heads everywhere I go as it is

  • @ibanez2010
    @ibanez2010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The old Prophecy models with EMG's were SO sick. God...add those to the list of guitars I wish I never sold!

    • @SionynJones
      @SionynJones 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The new prophesy with fluence are better you get the high gain tones and noiseless single coil and paf sound.
      You get the best of everything those fluence pickups are amazing. You get vintage tone classy vintage looks and high gain balls to the walls sound. They have so much appeal.

  • @silkandsteelduogcs8572
    @silkandsteelduogcs8572 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For example. I own a Gibson G45 acoustic electric made in Montana, USA and an Epiphone Masterbuilt Texan made in Indonesia. They both sound and play fantastic. (I play an average of 10-12 times a month in an acoustic duo in NE FL) Both guitars have their strongpoints. The quality control I’d really have to give to the Epiphone. ($899). The playing comfort to the Gibson ($1200) which has an amazing neck and “thinner” body. Both have Fishman Sonicore pu systems. The Gibson is “light as a feather”.
    It really is a toss up. The only negative I’d give is that the Gibson battery pocket came unglued in the NE FL summer humidity playing on/near the oceanfront. I’d try both brands. Epiphone is trending upward.

  • @joshyepyepzo8356
    @joshyepyepzo8356 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had an Epiphone Les Paul Custom 2020 Model, I was that dude that really wanted to believe they are on par with Gibsons, the day I bought a 2021 Gibson standard and had it set up, that first 5 minutes of playing is what changed my opinion forever. When making comparisons, you can really feel the cheapness in epis, awesome guitars tho

    • @zackakai5173
      @zackakai5173 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like you got a wonky Epiphone. Having spent some time A/Bing the 2020 models with the Gibson equivalent, I couldn't feel any difference. (Granted those were the higher end models, maybe the cheaper options have more of a difference between them. But the point stands).

  • @leodanryan966
    @leodanryan966 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Quick response "absolutely ", all the greatness of Gibson without the prebroken headstocks! Woo-hoo!

    • @austinevans921
      @austinevans921 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is no such thing as a prebroken headstock. They only break if you're careless

  • @mjmjersey
    @mjmjersey 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This day Epiphone is amazing I agree with you thank you for taking the time to cover it

  • @nctxman
    @nctxman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I appreciate your guitar reviews, thank you for helping me to make good buying decisions.

  • @marcozarattini1854
    @marcozarattini1854 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Max... Great channel... I've got a Gibson 1991 Les Paul Standard buyed new in 1992. It's a fantastic guitar but I can tell you that l buyed an Epiphone 50s LP Standard of the 2020 series inspired by Gibson in January and l can say that it's a great guitar too and l love them... 2great guitars... If you don't care much of the brand Epiphone is the best

  • @arttuuusisalo8709
    @arttuuusisalo8709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i just traded my Gibson LP tribute for an Epiphone LP Custom Pro and holy fxck it feels nice. Older dude once told me that once you play enough guitars, you'll start to learn that a good guitar is a good guitar no matter what the headstock says and i couldn't agree more. It's like buying shoes, you don't need Nikes or Adidas, you need the shoes that fit YOU the best.

  • @erikrasmussen7953
    @erikrasmussen7953 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would absolutely love to own a Gibson, but I just can't afford it. I've got a Epiphone Les Paul Custom Prophecy GX. It's a great guitar, I love it. Only thing to watch out for, is that it was very difficult to find a hard case to fit it. I'm not sure why, but most cases were simply too short, like the neck is too long, or not set deep enough, I dunno. Mine also has cream binding instead of the bright white. I messaged Epiphone to ask them about it shortly after I got it, and they said some of the earlier models in the run did have cream binding I guess, so that's neat. Overall though, the price difference is so big, I don't know how anyone other than someone who is rich or a professional musician can afford the Gibsons now =(

  • @robertleslie2467
    @robertleslie2467 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Owned the same guitar back in late 2000’s. Got it from Cowtown in LAs Vegas. Decent guitar but mine was a neck diver bugged me to no end. My Gibson USA Vs on the other hand… Both with p90’s and Bigsby B5’s into deluxe and champ tweed amps. Sweet mother of Keith Richards to Billy Gibbons guitar tone. Have mercy in a chicken basket!

  • @festushaggen2563
    @festushaggen2563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah, it matters to me. I’ve had a Gibson Les Paul for 30 years now and Epiphone’s have never felt or sounded the same to me. They really do look like the budget brand knock off version to me. Anytime the newest Epiphone comes out with the “it’s just as good as a Gibson” sales pitch, it just isn’t. I’d rather save more and get the real thing. If I were to get the Epiphone version, it wouldn’t be long until I wished I just got the Gibson I really wanted.

  • @epimanTim
    @epimanTim ปีที่แล้ว

    Got the new epiphone sg special dual p90 inspired by Gibson. Awesome guitar, maybe best I own and i own over 40. Just ordered this Flying V and can't wait to add to collection. A buddy bought one and loves it and prefers it over his Gibson's

  • @nicholasnelson-ef2il
    @nicholasnelson-ef2il 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They are not Alnico classics. They are Gibson burst buckers in an affordable epiphone and with the collaboration of the Gibson custom shop. $1200 firm. Orange drop capacitors and CTS pots also included❤

  • @rfilianogmailcom
    @rfilianogmailcom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Latest Epiphone a are way better than old ones but before Epiphone did have prices as high as 500 not 900 dollars, so it is not for free. I got my Black Beauty 3 at 500$ in 2001.

  • @johnsee7269
    @johnsee7269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hot licks! Epiphone or Squier get the job done for a lot of people like me. Squier especially is a clone and I don't think a blindfolded person could distinguish Fender or Squier. A Mexican Squier is identical except for the decal... Decals are like $5.00... Not trying to impress anyone but I feel better when it says Fender and plays identically.

  • @Abrakain
    @Abrakain 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Final song of the video is the same riff of a song by Italian rock band Litfiba. The song is "El Diablo"