Taken From The Hospital By a Fake Nurse! The Unbelievable True Story of Foundling, Paul Fronczak

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  • @ArmchairInvestigator
    @ArmchairInvestigator  ปีที่แล้ว +113

    I still can’t get over this story! I hope you enjoy todays episode as much as I enjoyed going down the rabbit hole 🕳️ that is Paul Fronczak’s life. 💛

    • @portablepulpit
      @portablepulpit ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Thank you 😊

    • @ivanhouston12
      @ivanhouston12 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yes! Thank you so much for this

    • @primesspct2
      @primesspct2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      you told this crazy insane story very well. !

    • @ArmchairInvestigator
      @ArmchairInvestigator  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@primesspct2 I appreciate you saying that!

    • @lyndawadsworth8572
      @lyndawadsworth8572 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I really love the detail you went through and the way you told it. I remember it , Very sad he hasn't found his sister. Can't believe there has not been any updates.

  • @laurabentzinger200
    @laurabentzinger200 ปีที่แล้ว +235

    I was adopted as a baby and had great parents. Recently I took a DNA test and found my bio dad I didn't do it for any other reason than to know my point of origin and see whom I may resemble. I am ever thankful I was adopted what a blessing.

    • @sr2291
      @sr2291 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      You are lucky.

    • @birdie5507
      @birdie5507 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yes but, still it is nice to know the origin of relations and family and been put up for adoption may have been a kind act.

    • @jaycole5353
      @jaycole5353 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Well not all that are adopted have it as good as you. You are a lucky one from what I have seen

    • @laurabentzinger200
      @laurabentzinger200 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jaycole5353 that's true my husband was adopted and abused.

    • @LittleBittySaidit
      @LittleBittySaidit ปีที่แล้ว +10

      My parents had 5 biological kids (I was the youngest) and adopted 8 (some before I was born, some after). There were 13 of us…And 7 of the 8 adopted had disabilities (mostly Downs Syndrome, 1 w/ cerebral palsy, and 1 was inbred). The one without a disability was a girl my exact age. We were a military family who moved a lot and we went to church a lot…but we went to public schools and we were very down to earth, we were very loved and well taken care of! Im 40 now and many of my adopted siblings have since passed…most of them when I was a young teen, Ive always struggled with so many losses. I would give anything to go back to that house full of kids and all the happiness! I lost some photos in a house fire, but the ones I do have I cherish and show off alot! And I vent on here about it sometimes (when it relates in a way). Those adopted siblings were my blood in my eyes, I didn’t know any different since I didn’t remember a time without them. I’ll always grieve for the childhood that I had with them all! My other biological siblings struggle with the loss as well. We’re all a little messed up from it to be honest! It’s very bittersweet, thankful for the time I had with them but sad they had to go so soon. It was a happy home turned broken to say the least. Lord knows I could really write a book…my life even after those deaths was one traumatic event after another. It’d be an entire series lol! Therapists and psychologists or whatever never knew what to say to me. I gave up on them years ago.
      I’m a very happy person and I have a very good and blessed life, I just struggle with my past sometimes. It’s a big part of me. I haven’t been able to go back to church since they’ve passed, I’ve tried. I immediately cry when the music plays or when something is said that touches me in a spiritual way. I cry like a baby lol! 😂

  • @Lynn-nx6ue
    @Lynn-nx6ue ปีที่แล้ว +211

    I followed this story for years. I never really believed that the mother thought Paul was her son. This poor woman lost one baby and then had the other one kidnapped - she desperately needed to believe that was her baby. Certainly after they had another son they would have seen that Paul wasn't theirs. That's why it was so difficult for them when Paul discovered the truth through DNA. They suddenly had to grieve all over again and deal with the fact that they didn't know where their son was. This is ridiculously sad. I feel terrible for this whole family.

    • @busyfloornurse
      @busyfloornurse ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That's why hospital employees have name tags with their name, title, and position on them, which are issued by the hospital. It's a good idea to walk down to the nursery and see who's actually working there.

    • @missmew3499
      @missmew3499 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@busyfloornursewe do. Our patients don't pay attention to them though. I can't imagine this poor family's pain.

    • @ScottJB
      @ScottJB ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I can't believe they just accepted that Jack/Scott was their son that easily but I guess in those days they had very little to go off of. And even if they knew deep down it was likely he was NOT their son, believing it probably gave them huge comfort. And every little thing he did like his new parents probably convinced them he was Paul. But I agree, as he grew older, it must have become more apparent how he was not alike them.

    • @christinareed9002
      @christinareed9002 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@ScottJB
      Dora and Chester suffered horrible heartache. First they lost their first child due to a stillbirth and then a selfish evil lady heartlessly kidnapped their second child. They wanted to believe their adopted son was really theirs. But regardless like Dora said on the lost sons documentary, she and her late husband did the right thing, they took in a child that was abandoned by his birth parents and grossly neglected before the abandonment.

    • @janicescott6569
      @janicescott6569 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@christinareed9002Exactly! They were good, innocent people.They wanted Jack to be theirs so badly that it was hard to face the truth that their biological son was out their somewhere but glad Dora got to speak to her lost son before he died and now she has passed away also.

  • @Geronimo2Fly
    @Geronimo2Fly ปีที่แล้ว +177

    I really hope Jill is found safe, and that she was also raised in a loving family. Paul is so fortunate to have been adopted by the Fronczaks instead of that horrible family where he was being neglected so badly.

    • @Imissyoulou
      @Imissyoulou ปีที่แล้ว +10

      So true. I had a horrible egg donor, (father died when I was 5.) She cursed, beat, humiliated, and neglected me. People told her that I would grow up to HATE her and I did. However, I had an extened family, none of them bio related. I grew up, educated myself, worked, and bought my own home. She died a bitter old woman. Before she died, she told my aunt, she was sorry but it was way to late.

    • @cindyweir9645
      @cindyweir9645 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Imissyoulou Maybe someday in your heart you’ll be able to forgive her.❤

    • @Imissyoulou
      @Imissyoulou ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@cindyweir9645 I cannot forgive the unforgivable.

    • @ericavalentin3062
      @ericavalentin3062 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ImissyoulouI thought this way to of something that happen to me and I couldn’t get passed it. But, Someone once told me and it always stuck. “it’s never good to hold hatred in your heart, You can dislike what someone did to you but don’t let hatred weigh you down.” I never forgot about it. It always stayed in my mind. I later decided to forgive that person and told them that to their face. I felt so much relief after that and was able to heal. Try to forgive so you hold no hatred in your heart for what she did to you. You never know you may feel so much better. ❤

  • @heezypeasy8611
    @heezypeasy8611 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    I just heard about the case of a little baby girl that was kidnapped by a woman posing as a nurse. She ended up going to school with her biological sister and was reunited with birth parent's. It's unbelievable that this happens!

    • @winterblommetjie
      @winterblommetjie ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Are you talking about the case that happened in South Africa the families name was coincidentally called Nurse. It was their first born baby girl that was taken?

    • @cecelastname6362
      @cecelastname6362 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@BarnesBucks has to be the same story. How many cases does the kidnapped child, taken by someone posing as a nurse, end up going to school with her bio sister?

    • @winterblommetjie
      @winterblommetjie ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@cecelastname6362 ❤

    • @shuffman8094
      @shuffman8094 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I read about it too. How difficult it’s been for the young lady.

    • @shuffman8094
      @shuffman8094 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@winterblommetjieit’s a different story. this one is here in the US.

  • @gabe-po9yi
    @gabe-po9yi ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Wow, what a story. I’m glad the man raised as Paul was determined enough to solve the mystery.

  • @marymcquaid7291
    @marymcquaid7291 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    It's amazing how Jack turned out to be such a soundminded, responsible person despite his difficult early years. Maybe the loving presence of his little twin sister saved him. He wasn't alone. I can understand why he's trying so hard to find her.

    • @lindsayschmidt2177
      @lindsayschmidt2177 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I know very early childhood can have profound impact on a person, but he was still mostly raised by loving parents, so it’s not really that big of a surprise imo

  • @neishanicole740
    @neishanicole740 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I'm a twin & couldn't imagine the feeling he has not knowing where she is. 💔 Hopefully, one day they can be reconnected.

  • @Parakeetfriend4215
    @Parakeetfriend4215 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Paul(Jack) was so blessed to have the adoptive parents that he had after the abuse and neglect that his biological parents put he and his twin through. Alcoholics should not have children.

  • @jannahhendersons2080
    @jannahhendersons2080 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, i was adopted at 3 weeks of age in 1971, my birthday is actually tomorrow.. my parents were so open with my story, I always knew i was adopted.. they told me about the day they got the call i was available, about their trip, the weather, and everything. My dad's been gone since spring 2020, but I live with my 83 year old Mom, since Dad was put on hospice. It's been a beautiful life, I couldn't ask for more loving parents. Thanks for this story, i hope to see updates!💗

  • @brendatomlinson
    @brendatomlinson ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is the most incredible story I have heard in ages. Quite a lot of twists and turns. Poor Paul. I hope he gets the answers he seeks in this lifetime.

  • @lizd.8655
    @lizd.8655 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    I grew up watching 20/20 and this is one of the many stories that stayed with me. Truth is truly stranger than fiction and certainly more tragic. I'm sure there will always be a part of Paul/Jack that wishes he never went down this path due to what he's lost but in the end, I'm glad he's gained a measure of closure and some of the answers he was looking for. There's no "right" way to react to this type of news so I can't really judge his wife, parents, and brother for how their relationships with Paul/Jack changed. It saddens me that what seemed a difficult yet attainable case turned into such an unexpected journey. I cannot imagine what the real Paul was feeling as he was faced with the truth while he was dying. I cannot imagine how Dora felt when speaking to her real son (Chester had already passed by then). And I cannot imagine how Paul/Jack felt when he discovered that he was an abused and later abandoned child. I wish them all a measure of peace (if that's even possible) but I mostly wish that Jill is found, no matter what the truth is.

    • @ArmchairInvestigator
      @ArmchairInvestigator  ปีที่แล้ว +22

      All the way around it’s a sad situation. There’s so many moving parts to it. One of the silver linings, thankfully, is that Paul was well loved.

    • @mamabear52
      @mamabear52 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I wondered if Paul's bio-mother had the twins as a result of an affair (or her husband believing she had one), why they might have been treated badly. My experience is that twins are usually adored. It would not have made sense for an in-tact couple to adopt but to leave a child in a stroller for any insane person to pick up is beyond me

    • @tinajoan
      @tinajoan ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@mamabear52 i was thinking the exact same thing

    • @kimberlys.t.7206
      @kimberlys.t.7206 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@mamabear52 There’s so much more to this story in my opinion.

    • @paulwilson3434
      @paulwilson3434 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Paul / Jack a very hdndsome man. He look like a movie star. Can’t think ohh. Mr Clooney

  • @kasperorganics-organiccott6881
    @kasperorganics-organiccott6881 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    You explained everything in a way that made it easy to follow this convoluted story. Thank you for sharing, and I hope it will help solve all the mysteries.

  • @vickilee6335
    @vickilee6335 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I sure do feel for and understand Paul. I was adopted as an infant and was made aware of this fact by my adoptive parents. I recently put my DNA on one of the public sites figuring only to find out my ethnicity ratios. To my complete shock, I found four relatives one being my biological father. I've since met all four and met a few who were not on the site through the original four. I know who my birth mother is, but she doesn't want to acknowledge that I'm her daughter. I understand it's extremely hard for her to deal with it. Mine is a success story in that I now have the actual story of who I am. There's something about knowing who you are and where you come from that gives a person a sense of foundation and basic understanding of yourself. It just puts the subject to rest. Paul's story is far more complicated than mine. And he seems like a self driven person so he's not likely to give up. He just needs to know the truth. And he needs to find his sister or find out what happened to her so he can put it all to rest.

  • @isabelle8836
    @isabelle8836 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I heard of this story. I am happy Paul was reunited with his Mom (on the phone). Scott was better off with Paul's parents, his twin sister is still out there. I hope Jill will be found.

  • @madamesproete
    @madamesproete ปีที่แล้ว +21

    In 1997, I gave birth to my beautiful baby girl. I kept her with me the whole time, especially after my family left, and it was just the two of us. A "nurse" came in, wearing scrubs with tiny bears sleeping on a cloud on them. She peeked in a couple of times when my family was there, but didnt say anything and left. Much later, when my baby had just finished nursing, and was quickly falling asleep, that same nurse came back. The room was dark, so she quietly walked in and was walking away with the the roller bassinette thing in which the babies are usually transported. When she got to the door, she stopped and looked over at me. I was awake. She looked startled, and was like, "Oh, I'm sorry I woke you up. Where is your baby?" I told her my baby is over here with me. She then said, "I'll take to the nursery so you can get some rest." Now the whole time she was in there with us, the door to my room was ajar, and I could hear someone on the intercom saying over and over again, CODE WHITE. CODE WHITE. ATTENTION PLEASE, WE HAVE A CODE WHITE. I told her no, thank you, but she is fine where she is. She tried to be persistent, saying it was a normal procedure for the babies to be in the nursery. And I told her that is great, but I am not doing that, and she is staying with me or I wouldn't be able to relax. Her face changed, like she was angry, and she put the bassinette back next to my bed and left. Later that morning a different nurse came in and I asked her what a code white was. She said it meant that a baby or babies were unaccounted for. I told her about the other nurse, and described what she looked like, and what she was wearing, and how I felt about her unprofessional manner when I wouldnt give her my daughter. She went to the door, asked a nurse passing by to come in our room. They both had the same matching solid color powder blue scrubs on. She told me that everybody on the floor had certain days they wear certain colors. They were always a solid color. So whoever that woman was, she did not work at the hospital, especially in the maternity ward. I immediately asked when I could go home. Then I called my maman and dad to come take me home. I was relieved, then briefly scared, then I was livid. Three babies were missing, and I sincerely believe she had targeted my baby.

    • @chinnymaiaobasi1449
      @chinnymaiaobasi1449 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wow! Thank Goodness for your instincts!!

  • @lisajeter9511
    @lisajeter9511 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is an incredible story! It seems everyone was a winner in the long run. I hope and pray Jill the twin sister is found alive. I’m sure Jack would love to meet her. Just as I hope and pray Jack has continue his relationship with his adopted parents as well!

  • @JusticeforbabyDylan
    @JusticeforbabyDylan ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This is a crazy story! This just happened to my siblings and us. My father passed away seven years ago, and he spoke of a woman in heaven, being pregnant with a girl we couldn’t remember the woman’s name so I decided to do an ancestry DNA test. A year later I get an email and it says that I have a hit on my profile. I go in there I see a couple of my house siblings which we know but at the top there is a woman and it states that she is either my mother, my aunt or my sister. We reached out to her and sadly her mother never told her and the guy that raised her never said anything and both of them had passed away so she couldn’t get any answers. Sad thing is if she does not want to meet us, she’s upset about the whole situation which is understandable but do you know this is surprising to us also so we just let her know that we’re here and if she ever wants to reach out as she can

  • @Greyseabee
    @Greyseabee ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow I can’t believe that sick mother favoring some of the kids and abusing and torturing the others what a freak.

  • @madredetresmocosos9088
    @madredetresmocosos9088 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    The real Paul looks like his real Mama Dora ❤

    • @alicialyons3356
      @alicialyons3356 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I thought I was the only one that thought so.

    • @deliciaford4343
      @deliciaford4343 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for that information.

  • @peggywilsondobbs3235
    @peggywilsondobbs3235 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dad looking at the baby could have been that he was proud of him.

    • @NikkiC777
      @NikkiC777 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes that, or just happy to finally have him back. I do not think it was a bad look. It did not look to me like he was doubtful that the child was his son. (Although later they found out that he was not the biological son.)

  • @fernandodiaz4449
    @fernandodiaz4449 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    That’s crazy, sounds like a government experience….But it’s good Paul was saved from that crazy couple/ family and grew up with loving parents I Hope they find Jill one day.

  • @winterblommetjie
    @winterblommetjie ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The TH-cam algorithm worked for a change! Where has this channel been hiding!! You're a great story teller and you put so much research and heart in your videos. SUBSCRIBED❤❤❤! Excuse me while I binge watch your videos lol

  • @charleneblack2792
    @charleneblack2792 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    When I had my 20yr old, they put an ankle monitor on her. I asked why and they said if any babies were taken off the floor, then entire hospital locked down. Someone had stolen a baby 2 years before from that hospital. It's insane. Any of us could be the stolen baby, and we wouldn't know it.

    • @NikkiC777
      @NikkiC777 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It is great that they've started to do so much to stop those kidnappings from happening. Years ago when I was in labor for the first time they were just starting to do things like put the alarms on the baby and they would leave the babies with the mom rather than putting them in the nursery, and if the doctor had to see them it was done right in the room with the mother. That was a little over 20 something years ago for me. There were a lot of these cases that had happened around that time. I remember hearing about a few right in my area. I remember my mom being worried about that too when it was almost time for me to go into the hospital. I think that it is definitely happening a lot less nowadays. I have not heard of any of those hospital kidnapping cases in forever. However It seems like now there are all these cases of women killing the pregnant mothers and trying to steal the babies directly from the mom's womb. There are a bunch of true crime cases on you tube lately where that has happened. It seems more common. I wonder if those cases are increasing in number now, and if it is because hospitals have increased their security so much, and made it so much harder for someone to steal a child from the maternity wards. They might realize that sneaking into the hospital won't work, so they are trying to do it before the mom goes to the hospital, which unfortunately makes it even worse now in a way. Although neither crime is good of course.

    • @bonniemoerdyk9809
      @bonniemoerdyk9809 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NikkiC777 ...except the second way usually kills the new mother.

    • @NikkiC777
      @NikkiC777 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@bonniemoerdyk9809 Yeah it is so horrible, and such an evil, and disgusting thing to do. There are some very messed up people in this world. It is just incomprehensible how someone can, in their own minds, decide to do that, and somehow justify doing that to someone else.

    • @clareshaughnessy2745
      @clareshaughnessy2745 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol, I couldn’t. I was born sixty years ago in the home where my mum stayed for the rest of her life. Cared for by my Auntie Margaret who was a midwife. Apparently when things slowed down a bit my auntie told my mum to shove over a bit, she got in the bed and they both had a nap while my poor dad sat downstairs waiting and worrying!
      Thirty years ago when my daughter was born, they were just beginning to tighten security in UK maternity wards. No alarms on the baby, but you couldn’t open the door to the ward from the outside and the baby stayed with me until I needed a sleep at night.

  • @VioletJoy
    @VioletJoy ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've heard this story a few times before, but it was interesting to see your take on it. My heart goes out to Paul and Jill. While it's clear that Paul's adoptive parents went through immense trauma, it was rather heartless of them to cut ties with their son for 3 years. It could have been handled so differently. Hopefully Jill is alive and well somewhere. This is just so devastating. 💔

  • @lauriedean72
    @lauriedean72 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    wow...just wow!! I've never heard this story and it's unreal! I think the saddest thing, of SO MANY SAD THINGS, is that Paul's wife couldn't understand his desire to know the truth about who he was.

    • @NikkiC777
      @NikkiC777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I couldn't believe that the doctors and nurses at that hospital thought it would be a good idea to keep it a secret from the mom, and not tell her immediately that her baby had been kidnapped. They should have notified her immediately and called the police. She could have given them a description of the woman who took the baby by saying she was a nurse, and who was the last person she saw with her baby.
      Then after they did tell her that her child was missing! They gave her a meal of filet mignon. WTF?! Like she is going to have any appetite, or that's going to make anything better at all. It was such an awful way to handle it and the steak dinner was totally inappropriate for the circumstances. It wasn't a time to celebrate and having a big steak dinner seems like a celebratory act when obviously the mother would be feeling the opposite of celebratory, and would just be grieving at that point. It seems like both the parents would have been livid, and absolutely terrified (understandably) after going through all that.

  • @BlackcatTarot
    @BlackcatTarot ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This story is very intriguing I really hope they find Jill!!!!! I’m subscribing now!!!!

  • @belindatafe4787
    @belindatafe4787 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I truly hope Paul gets answers & someday reunites with Jill

  • @alexi.3414
    @alexi.3414 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I wouldn't be able to let this go either. It's weird his loved ones couldn't understand that.

    • @ArmchairInvestigator
      @ArmchairInvestigator  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would be the same way too!

    • @ambersarles2375
      @ambersarles2375 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I believe the siblings know something and that's why they refused to talk about "the twins"

  • @lizanna6390
    @lizanna6390 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    37:49 not her buisness? Insanity, the boy had a black eye and they were left in their own filth. They should have been reported.

  • @JacquelynNhi
    @JacquelynNhi ปีที่แล้ว +28

    My son is 2 months old and when he was born they put a ankle monitor on him. He had to be electronically transferred from area to area. Had anyone tried to leave any area with him the doors would've automatically locked and the entire hospital would go into lockdown with every doctor, nurse and security guard running to the alarm. Trust me I asked all the questions before my son left my sight.

    • @dawnsites4232
      @dawnsites4232 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wow! They hit them with EMF from birth. I thought babies pretty much stay with the mother these days. Parents need to be careful with electronic devices that emit harmful electromagnetic waves, such as baby monitors. Use them wisely and search for ones with less radiation.

    • @Geronimo2Fly
      @Geronimo2Fly ปีที่แล้ว +4

      When my kids were born in the 90's they didn't have security precautions like that, but my babies stayed in the hospital room with me. Any time either of them had to be taken out for any reason, I told my husband "Don't let [her/him] out of your sight." He accompanied them every time, which the hospital was happy to allow. I can't even imagine those old days when all the babies were put in a big room and the parents and family had to look at them through the window. How awful.

    • @NikkiC777
      @NikkiC777 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​​@@Geronimo2Fly There might be a lot of cases from back then (when hospitals kept babies in a big nursery together) that nobody is even aware of, where babies were switched with others at birth, because they put them all in one big nursery away from their parents. It seems like it would've been easy for nurses taking care of them to get confused and accidentally swap 2 and put them in the wrong spots. It's not something that anyone would've even noticed or caught on to in most cases. Even if it was suspected, It is not something that could've even been proven until pretty recently when they started to be able to check people's DNA to see if they are related.

    • @bonniemoerdyk9809
      @bonniemoerdyk9809 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NikkiC777 ... I was born in 1955, long time ago I know. In the delivery room the nurse would be filling out the information of Mother's name, baby's name, weight, length, hair, ect. and the OB/GYN delivering the infant and put the strip of info into a plastic bracelet. One for the mother, and one for the baby's ankle. This was done before leaving the delivery room. I still have my bracelet, found it a few months ago!!

    • @annschiraldi1751
      @annschiraldi1751 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Back then we didn’t have that,and people were more trusting,,Kids rode there bikes,played outside,,

  • @beverengel2250
    @beverengel2250 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If I was his wife, I would’ve supported him fully.

  • @jenniferbaebler6946
    @jenniferbaebler6946 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I am a child that doest know their true Identity as far as where I came from... And it truly is something that haunts me every day.. I wish more people understood that sometimes you'd just me to now... I am actually thinking about doing a twenty three in me d n a test hoping it will lead me to family..

    • @KathleenEdge
      @KathleenEdge ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I hope you find your answers.
      Not knowing where you come from creates a void that no one could understand... unless they are in your situation.

  • @whoswhoatthezoo9372
    @whoswhoatthezoo9372 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great story ! They say that truth is stranger than fiction, and it’s true. First time watcher ( subscribed 30mins in,
    it was that good ).

  • @salomewilson9032
    @salomewilson9032 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wow! That was crazy. I'm so sorry for all who were involved. I can't imagine not knowing who I was. Even being a mother of an adopted child, I have told them I'm in favor of them seeking who their biological parents are. I know I would want to know. Their grown now, so it's imperative to move quickly before a biological parent passes away. I wish all who are involved best wishes in their search for their true identity.

  • @nancycornett9949
    @nancycornett9949 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much! This case has been such a puzzle. I truly hope that Paul finds his sister.

  • @madreep
    @madreep ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When I was an infant my dad's mom adopted me. I knew my dad very well but my mom only visited rarely so I didn't really know her. My grandma died when I was 8 and I went to live with my dad and stepmother and my younger half siblings. I saw my biological mother 2 or 3 more times then she was murdered when I was 10. I was a daddy's girl 100%. I loved my stepmother and my siblings. My dad died in 2014. In 2018 my best friend asked me what I wanted for Christmas and I said that I wanted an Ancestry DNA test. I got the results back a few weeks later and I found out that my dad was not my dad. I was devastated. My 3 siblings took tests because they didn't believe it. They all matched each other but no one matched me. I loved my daddy and my stepmother dearly but I always felt like I didn't belong. And now I know why. I don't think my dad ever knew the truth. If he did he never told anyone. I still haven't been able to determine who my biological father was 100%. The man who I believe that likely is my biological father died in 1994. He had one son, that man is not willing to take a DNA test to confirm if we are siblings or not. We don't look anything alike. But my DNA matches lead me to this man's family. There's 6 kids but he was the only male old enough to be my father. I pray that I will find the truth before my time on this earth is over. It's hard to have your entire identity stripped away at 40 years old. I can really relate to this story. No matter how good a life you have, it's hard not knowing where you come from.

  • @kasperorganics-organiccott6881
    @kasperorganics-organiccott6881 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Holy cow! I hope Jack finds his Jill.

  • @michaelhoggarth89
    @michaelhoggarth89 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Mrs H 🇬🇧 ..That's insane.... I can't cope with how this poor mother & Father suffered ... Back then people left they children outside for fresh air ...Parents didn't expect babies to go missing... What a traumatizing case .. I'm so happy that Paul was reunited with his family.. It's one of a Mother's worse nightmares.. ❤💔

    • @bonniemoerdyk9809
      @bonniemoerdyk9809 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kidnapping was so rare, it almost didn't exist!! Not unless you were very very wealthy.💰

    • @clareshaughnessy2745
      @clareshaughnessy2745 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bonniemoerdyk9809 my guess is that it was pretty much exactly as common as it is today.
      Kidnapping babies isn’t a learned trick or a fashion. It’s committed by a desperate person or, god forbid, a pervert and there were just as many of them fifty or sixty years ago - you just didn’t hear about them

  • @mitzicrowder2186
    @mitzicrowder2186 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Incredible story

  • @valiantsfelinesmccarty6678
    @valiantsfelinesmccarty6678 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a child of basically illegal adoption and unfortunately my parents were crazy my baby brother was my birth brother and I loved him so died as an adult from the injuries he received from our adoptive mother. We were bought and we were sold. 60000 children stolen from their parents in King county Seattle courts Washington USA. 1960s through the 70s. Most sold to wealthy people throughout the United States and Canada who had been denied adoptions in the regular system because of mental issues. Of my parents for children who ended up in this system we all were abused. The reason we ended up there our parents were poor. Our mother had brittle diabetes and dementia in her blood sugar became really bad but that doesn't mean you should remove the children from their home just because the mother is in the hospital however if you have a dirty social worker yeah kids suddenly disappear and end up in adoption in less than three months.. my birth family found me when I was 36 but not in time for my mother to finally see her son that she got never got to hold because the minute he was born he was already sold.

    • @Rain9Quinn
      @Rain9Quinn ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im so sorry 😞 thank you for sharing your story.🫶🏼

  • @marciageorgiades6507
    @marciageorgiades6507 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How can a person not report the abuse of the babies and a mother say to her daughter that saw the abuse not to say anything as it was not their business.Shocking..

    • @missylee3022
      @missylee3022 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That really stuck with me. All this crazy shit in the story but that mother telling her daughter to mind her own business stuck in my craw.

  • @themamachar
    @themamachar ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You can say all the right things in a letter.

  • @norlavine
    @norlavine ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What a story! The Fronczak family are the best. They raised a wonderful son - regardless of matching DNA - or not.♥

  • @Mr_C.Bacteria
    @Mr_C.Bacteria ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just wow. I dont know how this story has passed me by! This is literally like a work of fiction, right down to the family members just happening to pass away at the times they did etc. It's all just too much for my brain 😯'

  • @katd1845
    @katd1845 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow!! What a story, this is sad, surprising and beautiful and scary at the same time. I really enjoyed it, thank you!!! Will there be a follow up?

  • @Miss-Angie
    @Miss-Angie ปีที่แล้ว

    I just love you! You tell the stories in such a caring, gentle manner, but still give us the details and images so we fully understand the gravity of what's happened

  • @flavia8504
    @flavia8504 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have heard this story before. But never in such details. It was kind of confusing. But good investigation. You have a new subscriber. 😊

  • @craftingwithcharm7665
    @craftingwithcharm7665 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    OMG you remind me of Kimbyrleigha. I like the way you told the story. No curse words, respectfull & soft spoken just like her. I just found your channel & had to sub!😊 What a sad story yet glad that Jack ended up having a safe childhood. I hope he finds his sister.

    • @ArmchairInvestigator
      @ArmchairInvestigator  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for subscribing! I’m glad you enjoyed the video. 💛

  • @syubiased6854
    @syubiased6854 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    this story is insaneeeeee

  • @ImHereAlso
    @ImHereAlso ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the upload, very interesting and well done

  • @jaycole5353
    @jaycole5353 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Paul did the right thing by the email. It was very eloquent.

  • @leanneharcourt8149
    @leanneharcourt8149 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I've never heard of this story before but wow! The epitome of 'truth is stranger than fiction'. What a twisted convoluted story, can't imagine how it feels to have your whole life turned upside down based on one action of another when you were a baby. I came here for one story and stayed for now the 4th one..that's my day set up nicely so definitely subscribing! 👍 👍

  • @conniee4136
    @conniee4136 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for the story! On a different note, your hair is beautiful!

  • @Tamara-id1pe
    @Tamara-id1pe ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can’t believe Allan died like that. I’m sure he got all of the answers he needed when his time here was up ☮️💜

  • @thevickirob
    @thevickirob ปีที่แล้ว +32

    But Paul needed to find out about his “real” family, because he needed info about his life for medical reasons for his daughter ❤

    • @Starae336
      @Starae336 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That’s not super important I’m sure the daughter will be fine

    • @lyndawadsworth8572
      @lyndawadsworth8572 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It is if you have a high risk of cancer or heart failure..

    • @birdie5507
      @birdie5507 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Starae336 You have a flippant attitute. It is very important to know ones roots. Everyone should know who their real family is be it a good or bad thing. Abductions, kidnappings or stealing a child can be solved due to a dna sample. A medical problem that is hereditary is also better to know so as to prevent ignorance.

    • @jayp4033
      @jayp4033 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@Starae336 wow. You have no idea, do you. Some medical conditions are extremely serious and you need to know about them.

  • @jairai5922
    @jairai5922 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel bad. I dont understand why his parents, brother and wife are so upset about him wanting to figure out what happened....

  • @tgm5785
    @tgm5785 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a story, thank God for people with such beautiful loving hearts, Presenter your voice is awesome

  • @raphaelramlal7154
    @raphaelramlal7154 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent reporting. Very professional. Thoroughly enjoyed this. As far as the story goes, it was so unique. I sure hope he finds his sister. I like the way the narrator connects us with the historical world and with the emotions and hopes of the people in the story and with human nature. Lots of facts and highly analytical journalism, also presents many sides of the story. This is what I wished TH-cam videos would be like. I hope the rest of the world catches on, but some people are just gifted. Thanks. Wow! Please keep publishing.

  • @angelicakoutsouridakis5816
    @angelicakoutsouridakis5816 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When my ain’t had her first child, she was not married. So at the hospital They told her the baby had died. 40 years later, that baby as a grown woman now, was trying to fine her biological parents. That’s when everything was uncovered. Because my aunt was not married, so having a baby was shameful, the grandparents with the help of the doctor put the baby through legal adoption. With papers and everything. While telling my aunt that the baby was a stillborn. For about 40 years, my aunt thought her baby was dead.

    • @thepowerof6six809
      @thepowerof6six809 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wasn’t married when I had my oldest. And a lot of people didn’t want me to keep him.

    • @angelicakoutsouridakis5816
      @angelicakoutsouridakis5816 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I realized my phone autocorrected the word “aunt” to the word “ain’t” for some reason. ... and the word “find” was corrected to “fine”. I really should start checking better.

  • @elainelott9644
    @elainelott9644 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a really great story!!! You did a fantastic job telling it !!! I have subscribed and look forward to more from your channel!!!

  • @antoinetteesterhuyse9328
    @antoinetteesterhuyse9328 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    At birth I was swapped with another baby, but luckily my mom noticed and I was returned to her. Close shave, people!! (That of course was many years ago before DNA, etc made tracing easier. I look just like my family members, especially my dark thick eyebrows, which is a family trait!)

  • @llddau
    @llddau ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It makes no sense that people, experts, could say this baby they found was the kidnapped one, knowing that he was so much older than he should have been if it was him. Experts can tell the difference!

  • @annaadams9706
    @annaadams9706 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i don’t blame them at all for saying the found baby was paul. they had their child taken and then were literally handed a second chance. both boys got to grow up loved.

  • @melodymccullough5262
    @melodymccullough5262 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's no way in hell that I would leave my baby in a stroller outside of a grocery store so I could do some shopping. That's the weirdest & most irresponsible thing I've ever heard of.

  • @voyaristika5673
    @voyaristika5673 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Incredible! The composite is too close to Linda Taylor to doubt, given her insane life. It's such a relief that the babies had good lives, but the whole thing was horrendous. The other day I had the last 4 pak of Boost in my buggy at CVS. Left cart to use bathroom and came back to empty cart. I felt violated over that theft, so can't imagine the nightmare of a stolen baby. Thanks for great video! I'll watch more.

  • @laurajphillips
    @laurajphillips ปีที่แล้ว

    This is totally incredible!

  • @shaylatorch
    @shaylatorch ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WOW, what a CRAZY story!!! 😲😲😲

  • @MelAtlNP
    @MelAtlNP ปีที่แล้ว

    Compelling story and Very well reported! I’m subscribing

  • @ardevenuta37
    @ardevenuta37 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've never seen this channel before. Everything for a reason, I guess. 😁 I can say that one of the most well out to channels I've ever had the privileges of viewing. The host here, really, is stunning. A natural beauty rarely seen; and to be so incredibly articulate. mmm

  • @portablepulpit
    @portablepulpit ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow! So crazy. All this from an infant stolen and an unloving abusive home. 😕

    • @ArmchairInvestigator
      @ArmchairInvestigator  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Right?! One secret uncovered only led to more secrets. How bizarre can one persons life get?!? 🤯

    • @portablepulpit
      @portablepulpit ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@Armchair Investigator don't keep us waitin' too long for the next ACI!!

  • @grannygoes7882
    @grannygoes7882 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Who wouldn't want to know who they were and where the other (real) Paul was? I'm sorry Paul's family couldn't understand that. I have an adopted son, I had him since he was born, and I understood totally when he wanted to find his birth mom.

  • @LuvDelux
    @LuvDelux ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm so excited to find your channel! What a great story and I absolutely loved your unique style. ❤

  • @rotrautmellin7543
    @rotrautmellin7543 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved to listen to this real crime story !!! That speaking young lady did a great job ! Congrats to her !!! ❤

    • @KittraKittra
      @KittraKittra ปีที่แล้ว

      Girl speaking did a great job but, for some reason, I cannot look at her. I had two cover the screen with my hand and peek through my fingers when photos popped up on the screen. It’s a very bizarre reaction I had to her. Weird.

  • @patsysmothermon7861
    @patsysmothermon7861 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stealing a baby from a hospital is So Evil; but the Heartless evil of a few Horrible women to do this is even Worse !! They have murdered the Mother to remove the baby from Her body !! Those murderous theives, deserve the Death Penalty !!!

  • @elizethompson8627
    @elizethompson8627 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    He is a very attractive man for sure

  • @Livewithnoregrets58
    @Livewithnoregrets58 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My baby was put in icu right by a staircase. Boy did that make me nervous. I took dna test as my mom told me a different man was my father. Ends up she told the truth but she told me he died years ago. Well he's alive and she just passed this month. I discovered I have 3 other half siblings , New 1st cousins and a Aunt which makes her my last Aunt alive. All this discovered at age 55 during lockdown

    • @ArmchairInvestigator
      @ArmchairInvestigator  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh my goodness! That’s so crazy and has to be such a shock. Thank you for sharing a bit of your story. I cannot imagine how it must feel to learn all this.

    • @Livewithnoregrets58
      @Livewithnoregrets58 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ArmchairInvestigator it basically confirmed what I always felt as I never looked like the father I grew up with. I actually did meet my paternal grandmother who came around when I was 8 . Guess she got wind that she might have another granddaughter. That hurts most of all.

  • @birdie5507
    @birdie5507 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think every new born dna should be taken and stored in a dna bank, every adopted child, foster child and any child under 12 tears as it is vital to be able to know and trace any future child's roots if taken, kidnapped, abducted, murdered or who disappear. Be it done in hospitals, in schools or by hospital staff as it is vital in this day and age for accountability when we have more travel opportunities, changing names for no apparent reason and it appears its like an accessory now to change a name willy nilly or use an alliance!

  • @momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786
    @momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It broke my heart and Paul's Mom and dad! They had to relive that misery all over! 😢

  • @hondafreedom9329
    @hondafreedom9329 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating twists and turns!

  • @nothanksplease
    @nothanksplease ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What kind of a mother would tell their child to excuse/ ignore babies being abused poor Susan sounds like she was raised by a horrible person to

  • @maxinefreeman8858
    @maxinefreeman8858 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I watched this story. It's a nightmare story to any newborn nursery nurses. It's also a nightmare story for a parent.

  • @andreal7056
    @andreal7056 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really hope Paul/jack finds his sister x

  • @joaniebonaparte86
    @joaniebonaparte86 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job I am impress

  • @69LOLIN
    @69LOLIN ปีที่แล้ว

    First time in your Chanel, I liked your story and work! Keep it up!👍❤

  • @karennichols766
    @karennichols766 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 2 year old found looks like the infant without a doubt!!!

  • @AriaDonnaC
    @AriaDonnaC ปีที่แล้ว +6

    leaving your baby parked outside the store in a stroller?! oh lord I can't even leave my baby in the car to grab a candy bar! that crazy lol but if you lived in safe enough times, that would be great. it's just unfathomable to imagine!

    • @vrjanice2
      @vrjanice2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It was commonly done in the Northeast to leave a baby in the front yard, in a carriage sleeping, to get fresh air even in the 1970s.

    • @leanneharcourt8149
      @leanneharcourt8149 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It was common in the UK too, also ppl leaving the pram outside the house while the mother was for example doing housework. I don't know the full details as she's 13 years older than me but when my sister was a baby and left outside she was attacked by a dog, she still has the scars. It only takes a second and my mum never left any of us kids outside alone again.

    • @dawnsites4232
      @dawnsites4232 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Other countries do not have these problems. In some countries, mothers put their babies outside on the sidewalk while napping and they run their errands. Neighbors look out for the sleeping babies.

    • @jude5976
      @jude5976 ปีที่แล้ว

      In 1991 I was in Dublin. At the Post Office I saw a baby asleep in a buggy. Living near a major city I was shocked. I hung around until the mother came back.

    • @Oohmyymiaa
      @Oohmyymiaa ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Different times....

  • @bnlatin23
    @bnlatin23 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I understand the parents feeling some type of way about not being enough but I would want to know who my real family was and specially to know their medical history . I think you should know where you come from .

  • @lorriegallardo8053
    @lorriegallardo8053 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can't help but think that Jill might be dead. After all, the twins were severely neglected. I hope that's not the case. What a story.

  • @tammyshirks6948
    @tammyshirks6948 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so very sad.. A life of uncertainty to the why or how come these things happens to babies.. Heart braken.. 😮😢

  • @AveryWeinstein
    @AveryWeinstein ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m adopted and always felt like I wasn’t the oldest, even though I am in my adopted family. Nothing was ever hidden from me and I thought I knew my biological parents’ names. Turns out, my birth mom accidentally got my birth dad wrong and another guy was my birth dad and I have an older half-brother by 7 months. I was also weirdly obsessed with the name Steve as a kid and that’s my birth dad’s name.

    • @ArmchairInvestigator
      @ArmchairInvestigator  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s insane! 🤯 Goes to show, your instincts are usually on the mark.

  • @joyanthony680
    @joyanthony680 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a captivating story I have ever had. At least recently. I enjoyed it but wished you got to the real bottom. I hope Paul or Scott finds his real parents so that he can then have peace of mind. I wish you the best

  • @carolhart8696
    @carolhart8696 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The only security cameras you would find in 1972
    Would be in a Bond movie.

  • @JohannaNazareen1225
    @JohannaNazareen1225 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've met a man who is a friar now. He was abandoned and later adopted. He never knew who his bio parents were. He was found in, you wont belive it, manger after Christmas Eve midnigh Mass. The baby Jesus statue was put out and he was there wrapped in some old shaby blue blanket. He was screaming from cold. People who went out of the church after the Mass saw and heard himm it was placed outside of the church. The entire set. Mary, Joseph, 3 kings and all
    He was adopted and later when he grew up, finished school and college, he was working for ahwile. But then he decided to become a friar.
    He later met another friar in one of the monaseries. He was sent from one to another,actualy.Everyone told them they kinda look alike.
    One day some other man needed blood transfusion.
    He was from that parish. The family said he has AB blood type. And both friars, along with few others went to donate blood since the hospital told the family they dont have enough of that blood type.
    After that the two friars talked how it is interesting that they have the same blood type. But many people do, so nothing strange. Then they talked about their life from before. And first one said he was adopted. And another said he had another brother. But he was kiddnaped as a small baby. They suspected on one person. But did not have any proof. The year of birth was fitting. And he was kiddnaped in november. So they did a Dna test. And surprize, surprize they were a match. They found each other in a monastery. And all because of a blood transfusion cause they both wanted to help someone.

    • @NikkiC777
      @NikkiC777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is crazy. It is such an awful thing to do leaving a baby out in the cold like that. If he hadn't been screaming they wouldn't have found him and he would have frozen to death. That was such a horrible thing to do to a baby. The mother should have made sure he was safe, not just left him out in the cold. It would have been very easy for him to have just frozen to death. If nobody had heard him in time, then he would not have made it. He would have quieted down after a little while, and then it would have been too late, and nobody would have even noticed him, until they were taking down the nativity scene. It is such an evil thing the mother did. It would have been really horrible if they had not heard him in time.

    • @JohannaNazareen1225
      @JohannaNazareen1225 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NikkiC777 you're right. Luckily he had a good set of lungs. Lucky for him that he was crying and screaming. And it is such a cruel thing to do, especialy knowing that the mother could literaly go inside and give him to the priest. Inside of the parish. Or just give him for adoption.

  • @momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786
    @momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Paul had the right to know the truth

  • @jayp4033
    @jayp4033 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its not even"back then, ears were considered unique", they still are! There's no 'back then' about it

  • @lisaseah8823
    @lisaseah8823 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was always interested in this case after seeing it on 20/20. I was born at the same hospital ( 4 years later) .

    • @NikkiC777
      @NikkiC777 ปีที่แล้ว

      That hospital really messed up in how they handled it, when Paul went missing as a baby. They did not tell the mother, or call the police immediately. They should have done both, so a real investigation could start, and so that the mother would be able to give a description of the woman who was pretending to be a nurse, and had taken her baby away saying that a doctor was going to do a check up or whatever. Also they brought her a filet mignon for dinner like that makes up for the kidnapping and the lies afterwards or makes anything better in any way. That seemed extremely inappropriate and insensitive. It was so thoughtless. A steak dinner just doesn't cut it when a newborn has gone missing . SMH. I just couldn't believe that part. WTF. It was soooo messed up. SMH.

  • @maureenharrison6170
    @maureenharrison6170 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating story. Wow

  • @nancycornett9949
    @nancycornett9949 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!

  • @maxinefreeman8858
    @maxinefreeman8858 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is the nightmare that haunted us nbn nurses. Rooming in didn't happen in our hospital because of security. The elevator came up in front of the nurse's station and there were steps also that led to basement. At the west end there was the newborn nursery , an exit with steps that went up to the 3rd floor. They went down to the lobby which was empty on the midnight shift. We nurses were the security. The only reason we didn't push breast-feeding, especially a fresh c-section, back in the day moms were sleepy, no epidurals wers used. We had to rush out to the mom with baby, no time to help her .Id notify front desk to watch for someone anyone strange. Then I'd run to get the breast baby. I sneaked and fed some. One thing we did in the delivery room. There was a legal birth certificate that stayed on baby's chart. First after wiping infant down we had bracelets that had been filled out with mother's name. After the birth the mother's thumb print is put on the legal birth certificate. We put the baby's footprints on that document. I did the prints the way an experienced nurse showed me. You wipe the heels dry than we used the black stuff and put it on the infant's heels. There a place on the form that you put the heel print on the same form as mom's thumb print. On the one we gave the the mom, we put her thumb print, and the baby's heel print. This tells also the hospital they're born at, weight, etc. The doctor would sign both forms. Back to bracelets. All 3 bracelets has the mother's name and history number. Every patient we had were given a history number. Two bracelets went on the baby's feet, one bracelet on mother's wrist. All 3 bracelets have the same number from factory. They made us quit carrying babies in our arms outside of the nursery. Our cribs were heavy metal. The last years I worked, the baby couldn't be in the hallway in anyone's arms. If anyone was seen with an infant in their arms they were to be stopped. Even if you recognized the person. The hospital is still small. When you get off the elevator you have to be buzzed in. Back to personnel. The hospital is small. The night shift staff was smaller than other shifts. We let the mother hold the baby in delivery after footprints were done. If you can prove a person by a thumb print, surely you can by the heel prints. If not, why have they been done? With a short staff in the hospital we noticed ever new face. When the mother was brought out to her room, she's been with the OB nurse. We showed her our picture IDs that hang around our necks. Back before the ban against carrying babies in hallway I would tell the mom that I would be the only person on our shift that will come to get the baby. That was also the rule when they stayed in the crib. I would explain if lab or x-ray or anyone needing to do something for the baby, I would be the one to return the baby to nursery for anything that needed to be done. They were told that no one including a doctor would get the baby, the newborn nursery nurse would be the only person for her to get the baby out of the room. I had to take a medical retirement a few years ago. Some things mightve changed. I know I've rambled in writing.