We still did hearing tests on New Jersey, we just did them in Long Beach at the hospital there when not on float. Not that it mattered, we all have tinnitus now anyway.
See the safe in the upper left on the thumbnail? That's a TPI safe - Two Person Integrity. Nobody on the ship is allowed to have both combos. It takes two people to access that safe. In my world (comms), it''s where encryption keykists, codebooks, etc were stored.
The hearing test booth was a great addition. I don't think I ever had my hearing tested while on active duty, even though I worked on the Missouri in engineering, and on the bridge during main battery gunnery.
Last time I visited Wisconsin a flatbed full of 16 inch projectiles was on it's way out. Not something you see to often. I asked if they were on route to California but no one seemed to know.
To add to the topic; New Jersey and Missouri have different small arms storage areas and Missouri has an improved bread baking area. Also, Missouri has a Mardet office while New Jersey has a Mardet berthing compartment. Something to note about Wisconsin is that she has the updated Block 1 Phalanx unlike the others. Missouri and Wisconsin are slightly thicker than Iowa and New Jersey due to modified bulkhead. However, New Jersey is slightly longer than the three others. 888' vs 887'. The superstructure on New Jersey is also different from Wisconsin and Missouri. Also, Wisconsin's current bow is the last remnant of USS Kentucky.
Those tools hanging on the wall behind you on the New Jersey look very similar to what we use in railroading for track maintenance. It looks similar to what we call a bolt punch.
As a deaf man, the hearing booth I am familiar with are completely isolated. Johns Hopkins Hospital had the first since the 60's once that hatch closed you had quiet. You also got fresh air as well. Plus a world class audiophile speaker on which they occasionally indulged in some fine music for the kids or something. The hospital in the old section was alive. The steel beams around the walls, floors and above would shake as the people did their thing on many floors and the entire building would be alive with noise and sometimes a feeling of noises through the steel etc. You get into one of these soundproof spaces and its absolute quiet. You cannot stay in there too long. The Combat Center is a treat. Thats what I thought it should be with everything around the Tac Boss chair. As is the walled off section behind the flag bridge. Theres a duct under the companion way to I think 04 above that looked like it was insulated. It almost reminded me of the old abestos type insulation from decades ago in the old buildings which has been remedied or removed in my lifetime or outright closed down. A school I attended had abestoes in the 70's and they closed it outright and dispersed the kids everywhere but there. Thankfully no damage. Other than trucking wear and tear. The Admirals Spaces are pretty good. The New Jersey Version is decent however the Wisconsin one was nicer in some ways. The Pantry Kitchen is almost bigger than our business kitchen long ago when we had served up seafood and food items to the public along with the alcohol and so on. If you could keep up the supply of food in that space you could keep up with the Admirals and his Burger team. Did any of that come out of the Admirals paycheck? Thank you for the wonderful videos I find them immersive and learn something along the way now and then.
That little hearing booth always said I has great hearing. My problem was hearing voices over background noise. No background noise in the booth. Now I have hearing aids but no disability rating. Jet engines will do that to your ears.
I would imagine had they been in service longer and possibly acquired the Phase II rebuild they all would have been upgraded to be virtually identical. However, I am glad that didn't go through, and we have the ships we know of today with all their quirks and unique characteristics.
"You can always build a better battleship" - well said Ryan. I hope we do. So many improvements have been made to cannons and their ammunition. Having an efficient way to take our acres of an enemy's ordnance for a few hundred dollars per round is great.
HI RYAN,, WOW IN SICK BAY.. WE THOUGHT YOU WERE STANDING IN A ELEVATOR 0:33 THE BEGINNING OF THE VIDEO.. THAT WOULD OF BEEN SOME THING..AMAZING PANTRY.. THE DINING AREA IS GREAT WITH THE PORT HOLES OPEN.. 3:35...WHAT A GREAT VIDEO AND SHIP, THX..
I lost some of mine flying in helicopters and C130s during my tours in the pacific. Most the aircraft I was in had a lot of the sound proofing removed.
A friend of mine was a B-52 navigator in the '70s / '80s. Those BUFFs are _loud_, with basically no soundproofing. His hearing is almost gone at this point, to the extent that hearing aids don't help a lot. He says most of his fellow B-52 crew have similar hearing loss.
Hi Ryan. Australia’s bicentennial was in 1988, not 1989. I was only 11yrs old at the time and it was a really big deal. The Flying Scotsman locomotive was brought out here for the year and of course various ships visited throughout the year.
Video idea, talk about fleet organization underway. Where were the destroyers, the oilers, the cruisers, the battleships, the transports, the carriers, during their ocean transit, attacks, etc. And why were they there? Where did the oilers and destroyers plan to go if they met another fleet or a sub?
You really need to see if you can get a few rolls of that leaky coax cable, and run them along the tour route, and also a length on the top deck, so as to get good phone reception inside the steel hull. Totally passive, and works with all mobile networks as well.
you need to remember that wisconsin was not meant to also oparate in space to combat the space yamato class. so when the threat of doing orbital manuvers was gone, they could use all that expensie and large equipment for otehr things. i think if the IJN space arm would have continued oparation it would , without a doubt, for the other iowas, to get the same suite of space rockets that new jersey got .
in retrospect, Admiral's yachts was a way better upgrade path for the battleships than most of the crazy battlecarrier concepts they had. Deactivate a turret. And some dining rooms for fancy parties. Add a big CIC with state of the art 286 computers, and voila, you have a fancy command and control platform with decent medical facilities and a donut shop. Way cheaper than trying to make her a modern brawler surface combatant.
Until I went to one in my VA this year, None were sound proof. I ran out of air holding my breath to try and hear the sounds against the echoing in there.
It could be that New Jersey didn't get a leaky feeder radio system for DC because giving her elite crew yet another tool to use would make the competitions completely unfair.
As I understood it Wisconsin had a serious internal fire when in mothballs, that was only found out about when she was being checked out as the number 1 candidate for reactivation, New Jersey was selected for the reactivation instead. So the question is, how much damage was done by the fire and does that add to the more modern interior of Wisconsin, as I would have thought that putting in 1940s equipment in in the 1980s would not be possible as the equipment was not being made and the new equipment was more common fleet wide?
Thank you Ryan. I found this one. Very interesting. How do you communicate in a ship that eats radio signals without exposing your position or providing unsecure information. Might be an interesting video.
Seems like the BB-64 got a lot of items which the navy was planning to integrate or had already integrated into newer ships. The other three Iowa class seem more stuck in the World War II Vietnam era physical configuration with that old school wartime mindset on ship layout & amenities etc. I do think the one thing that could have kept the Iowas in service longer would have been retrofitting the steam system with gas turbines & diesel gensets. This could have also been paired with more uniform propeller shaft lengths to address vibration issues etc.
I was very disappointed visiting Wisconsin this past summer. Very few spaces are open to see. No 16” guns. You can only see the engine room and bridge if you pay for the add on tour for each one on top of the already high admission price. North Carolina is much more open AND costs less to see.
All marine engineers are traditionaly deaf even without guns, just usual, commercial grade diesels are more than enough. Queens toilet? Oh yes, like one of the most honored exposition in old Parliament (which is museum now) in Canberra.
Any veteran needs to get a Veteran Service Officer (VSO) at a Veteran Service Organization (VSO) like the Veteran of Foreign Wars( VFW) or the Disabled American Veterans (DAV) before they go to the VA to start getting their benefits 👍🏻🇺🇸🤔
They did not when I was on them in the early 80s. I don't know about now. The VA does a great job checking mine and it is much more thorough than those old booths.
With these videos of late, talking about their previous recommissioning, and what if they were reactivated in 2025, I'm stuck wondering what purpose a battleship would serve in the 2020s/30s? What can you get out of a battleship that you couldn't from a modern CG, DDG, FFG, or CVN?
A pity her late Majesty didn't visit . I'm assuming g the Iowa lass have mag loops for communication in machinery and flight spaces for coms . Ships of the same class do get modified according to their operational requirements and it's a big mistake to trust drawings of they aren't specific . The thought occurs if Wisconsin was last they might have been using up the budget .
8:23 I hate to be that guy but Ryan got something wrong. Not all the Iowa's have empty deck space there. On Iowa, they get a basketball hoop over one of the doors there :) Good old fashion knockout by turrets 3.
I'm sorry to say it. But, the tax payers never got our money's worth out of the USS Wisconsin. Especially in her last reactivation. Remember, she had fire damage repair as well as more modern equipment added. But she was only reactivated for only just over 2 years and 11 month. Oct. 22, 1988 until Sept. 30, 1991. And I'm one person, that thinks we should still have at least 2 active battleships. Missiles can be jammed in flight. But nothing can jam a 16" shell once fired.
You can not "jam" missiles in the way you describe Missiles use radar or other sensors to be cued onto target, then when launched used their own seekers and data links to other platforms to hit targets There's nothing to be gained, they'd be a waste of money and manpower
Why would the Queen have stayed on the Battleship? She was the Queen of Australia, she can take residence in any of the Governors' mansions. Or the PM's lodge or Kirribilli
I got to use the Admirals head on the USS Lexington aircraft carrier museum in Corpus Christy, Texas. I had the opportunity to explore the ship by myself, at night, for about 4 hours. It was way cool.
Don't start that 1st, 2nd, 3rd place crap here. There's a pair of idiots on outlook daily channel that do that & @ 4 people that get all over them about it. If you aren't making a comment directly related to the content of this video, SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE & go back to your basement corner.
Considering that admirals are essentially lifers and they don’t have much opportunity to spend time in their own homes, after much consideration why would the navy curtail the need for some quiet space as they review battle plans? Looking at what happens when admirals for Japan are killed or disabled during a battle, in effect it renders the ship temporarily disabled until the chain of command is reestablished. With this in mind it becomes nonsensical to have open exterior passages without a screen of steel to mask the command’s movement from ordinance fire. Though it raises the hazards of shrapnel damage it shields from everything other than freak or acts of God. If command is hit at that point then you have bigger problems since it would show that God is choosing to work against them. In those moments of solitude it could cause them to have brought to mind aspects that could otherwise remain hidden. Even with staff around them it helps to still communicate more effectively… barring hearing loss of course.😉🫨
For all the upgrades that the ships didn’t get, let’s all rejoice that none was ever made a battlecarrier 😃
Aw, but that would be so cool. (As a museum. In operational practice, probably not so much.)
Come on, there is nothing wrong with our bloody ships(battlecruisers)
I bet someone in congress will eventually push for frigate decks to be heat treated to take F-35 Bs
I mean having one as a Battlecarrier wouldn’t be too bad
How about removing a couple of tarots and put ICBM’s and other kinds of missiles? A BIG huge destroyer.
We still did hearing tests on New Jersey, we just did them in Long Beach at the hospital there when not on float. Not that it mattered, we all have tinnitus now anyway.
WHAT?
You got tinnitus serving your country, I got it being young, drunk, hugging a speaker at a discotheque. 🤦♂😆
@@Varangian_af_Scaniae thank you for your service.
Items needed on every ship? They ALL need their own Ryan Szimanski!
Sorry, only one is available, and he is on
another Ship.
steve
I say expanded bread bakery and Mardet office.
"You are pushing the button when there is no tone. Please wait until you hear a tone and then push the button."
"You will hear a bell. When you hear the bell, stare at the art."
Gah! My ears!
What ?? What??? Cant hear you!
Can you make the tone louder than the sound of my own pulse??
My tinnitus is so bad people can hear my ears ringing from 30 feet away! My nickname is WHAT?
The Jersey just was a quick activation and the first trying build up to 600 ship Navy and then we ran out of desire to keep them
See the safe in the upper left on the thumbnail? That's a TPI safe - Two Person Integrity. Nobody on the ship is allowed to have both combos. It takes two people to access that safe. In my world (comms), it''s where encryption keykists, codebooks, etc were stored.
As seen in the opening sequence of _WarGames._ Turn your key, sir!
@@ZGryphon That's different.
@@IMDunn-oy9cd The two missileers did have one of those safes, though. They had to get the codes out of it before the whole business with the keys.
The hearing test booth was a great addition. I don't think I ever had my hearing tested while on active duty, even though I worked on the Missouri in engineering, and on the bridge during main battery gunnery.
Last time I visited Wisconsin a flatbed full of 16 inch projectiles was on it's way out. Not something you see to often. I asked if they were on route to California but no one seemed to know.
I like Ryan's hat at 10:14
Thanks Ryan❣️ This is exactly what I asked for a few months ago when I asked to know what some of the differences were between the Iowas. 🙏🏼
To add to the topic; New Jersey and Missouri have different small arms storage areas and Missouri has an improved bread baking area. Also, Missouri has a Mardet office while New Jersey has a Mardet berthing compartment.
Something to note about Wisconsin is that she has the updated Block 1 Phalanx unlike the others.
Missouri and Wisconsin are slightly thicker than Iowa and New Jersey due to modified bulkhead. However, New Jersey is slightly longer than the three others. 888' vs 887'.
The superstructure on New Jersey is also different from Wisconsin and Missouri. Also, Wisconsin's current bow is the last remnant of USS Kentucky.
Those tools hanging on the wall behind you on the New Jersey look very similar to what we use in railroading for track maintenance. It looks similar to what we call a bolt punch.
As a deaf man, the hearing booth I am familiar with are completely isolated. Johns Hopkins Hospital had the first since the 60's once that hatch closed you had quiet. You also got fresh air as well. Plus a world class audiophile speaker on which they occasionally indulged in some fine music for the kids or something. The hospital in the old section was alive. The steel beams around the walls, floors and above would shake as the people did their thing on many floors and the entire building would be alive with noise and sometimes a feeling of noises through the steel etc. You get into one of these soundproof spaces and its absolute quiet. You cannot stay in there too long.
The Combat Center is a treat. Thats what I thought it should be with everything around the Tac Boss chair. As is the walled off section behind the flag bridge. Theres a duct under the companion way to I think 04 above that looked like it was insulated. It almost reminded me of the old abestos type insulation from decades ago in the old buildings which has been remedied or removed in my lifetime or outright closed down. A school I attended had abestoes in the 70's and they closed it outright and dispersed the kids everywhere but there. Thankfully no damage. Other than trucking wear and tear.
The Admirals Spaces are pretty good. The New Jersey Version is decent however the Wisconsin one was nicer in some ways. The Pantry Kitchen is almost bigger than our business kitchen long ago when we had served up seafood and food items to the public along with the alcohol and so on. If you could keep up the supply of food in that space you could keep up with the Admirals and his Burger team. Did any of that come out of the Admirals paycheck?
Thank you for the wonderful videos I find them immersive and learn something along the way now and then.
Wisconsin was the only one to get the Block 1 version of the Phalanx.
That little hearing booth always said I has great hearing. My problem was hearing voices over background noise. No background noise in the booth. Now I have hearing aids but no disability rating. Jet engines will do that to your ears.
Ryan has battleship envy.
"Admiral, you may wait here in the sitting room, or you may sit here in the waiting room."
I would imagine had they been in service longer and possibly acquired the Phase II rebuild they all would have been upgraded to be virtually identical. However, I am glad that didn't go through, and we have the ships we know of today with all their quirks and unique characteristics.
"You can always build a better battleship" - well said Ryan.
I hope we do. So many improvements have been made to cannons and their ammunition. Having an efficient way to take our acres of an enemy's ordnance for a few hundred dollars per round is great.
HI RYAN,, WOW IN SICK BAY.. WE THOUGHT YOU WERE STANDING IN A ELEVATOR 0:33 THE BEGINNING OF THE VIDEO.. THAT WOULD OF BEEN SOME THING..AMAZING PANTRY.. THE DINING AREA IS GREAT WITH THE PORT HOLES OPEN.. 3:35...WHAT A GREAT VIDEO AND SHIP, THX..
I lost some of mine flying in helicopters and C130s during my tours in the pacific. Most the aircraft I was in had a lot of the sound proofing removed.
A friend of mine was a B-52 navigator in the '70s / '80s. Those BUFFs are _loud_, with basically no soundproofing. His hearing is almost gone at this point, to the extent that hearing aids don't help a lot. He says most of his fellow B-52 crew have similar hearing loss.
Hi Ryan. Australia’s bicentennial was in 1988, not 1989. I was only 11yrs old at the time and it was a really big deal. The Flying Scotsman locomotive was brought out here for the year and of course various ships visited throughout the year.
Video idea, talk about fleet organization underway. Where were the destroyers, the oilers, the cruisers, the battleships, the transports, the carriers, during their ocean transit, attacks, etc. And why were they there? Where did the oilers and destroyers plan to go if they met another fleet or a sub?
"Your hearing loss is not service related"
Amen...I was a Sonar Tech..but " not service related"..
What?? What??
The main fuel oil piping wasn’t updated on the New Jersey
Did anyone else lose audio when it came to the admirals cabin portion of the video
What ?
You really need to see if you can get a few rolls of that leaky coax cable, and run them along the tour route, and also a length on the top deck, so as to get good phone reception inside the steel hull. Totally passive, and works with all mobile networks as well.
Ha! Missouri has the only presidential bathtub.
5:25 I usually get annoyed when someone tries to call me while I'm on my Porcelain Throne. Yet I can see, on a warship, that's a feature.
you need to remember that wisconsin was not meant to also oparate in space to combat the space yamato class. so when the threat of doing orbital manuvers was gone, they could use all that expensie and large equipment for otehr things. i think if the IJN space arm would have continued oparation it would , without a doubt, for the other iowas, to get the same suite of space rockets that new jersey got .
in retrospect, Admiral's yachts was a way better upgrade path for the battleships than most of the crazy battlecarrier concepts they had. Deactivate a turret. And some dining rooms for fancy parties. Add a big CIC with state of the art 286 computers, and voila, you have a fancy command and control platform with decent medical facilities and a donut shop. Way cheaper than trying to make her a modern brawler surface combatant.
It's all non-service connected hearing loss. 😄
You gotta do a video about the drones over New Jersey! You have THE New Jersey drone launcher!
Until I went to one in my VA this year, None were sound proof. I ran out of air holding my breath to try and hear the sounds against the echoing in there.
Seems like Ryan had a little bit of battleship envy when scouting out the Admirals pantry.
It could be that New Jersey didn't get a leaky feeder radio system for DC because giving her elite crew yet another tool to use would make the competitions completely unfair.
I didn’t know I had battleship autism but, well, here I am.
😂
As I understood it Wisconsin had a serious internal fire when in mothballs, that was only found out about when she was being checked out as the number 1 candidate for reactivation, New Jersey was selected for the reactivation instead. So the question is, how much damage was done by the fire and does that add to the more modern interior of Wisconsin, as I would have thought that putting in 1940s equipment in in the 1980s would not be possible as the equipment was not being made and the new equipment was more common fleet wide?
Great content Ryan. It is almost like your list to Santa. 🤣
If you didn't get any upgrades you wanted/needed, it's very simple. "Lockheed says, 'No'!"
Missouri arguably has the better small arms storage area than New Jersey.
Thank you Ryan. I found this one. Very interesting. How do you communicate in a ship that eats radio signals without exposing your position or providing unsecure information. Might be an interesting video.
Seems like the BB-64 got a lot of items which the navy was planning to integrate or had already integrated into newer ships. The other three Iowa class seem more stuck in the World War II Vietnam era physical configuration with that old school wartime mindset on ship layout & amenities etc. I do think the one thing that could have kept the Iowas in service longer would have been retrofitting the steam system with gas turbines & diesel gensets. This could have also been paired with more uniform propeller shaft lengths to address vibration issues etc.
I was very disappointed visiting Wisconsin this past summer. Very few spaces are open to see. No 16” guns. You can only see the engine room and bridge if you pay for the add on tour for each one on top of the already high admission price. North Carolina is much more open AND costs less to see.
All marine engineers are traditionaly deaf even without guns, just usual, commercial grade diesels are more than enough.
Queens toilet? Oh yes, like one of the most honored exposition in old Parliament (which is museum now) in Canberra.
@8:55 "boo"
As a suggestion, it would be cool yo have you cooking breakfast in the NJ's galley
What are some things that NJ specifically has that the other Iowa's don't? Or some things that as a museum NJ has more complete than the other Iowa's?
IIRC, as a museum, NJ is the only one with a full compliment of boats and with a helicopter, for starters.
id like to see all 4 get warp drive😁
14-year-old me laughed out loud when you said the Admiral had to take the P-way to the head. It seems logical.
Live drone watch party
Any veteran needs to get a Veteran Service Officer (VSO) at a Veteran Service Organization (VSO) like the Veteran of Foreign Wars( VFW) or the Disabled American Veterans (DAV) before they go to the VA to start getting their benefits 👍🏻🇺🇸🤔
“Your hearing loss by the 16inch guns is not service related.”
Why is it when you go I'm not there, its always when I'm off man!
But you still have more battle stars.
I wonder if they have hearing test booths on current Aircraft carriers.
They did not when I was on them in the early 80s. I don't know about now. The VA does a great job checking mine and it is much more thorough than those old booths.
Queen of England is also Queen of Australia
EMCON issues with those small radios
Ever get in one of those 6 set hearing booths and someone passes gas?
Just a shame they spent all that money on upgrades to just use the ship for such a short period of time before decommissioning it
Was Wisconsin used as a set on Red October?
With these videos of late, talking about their previous recommissioning, and what if they were reactivated in 2025, I'm stuck wondering what purpose a battleship would serve in the 2020s/30s? What can you get out of a battleship that you couldn't from a modern CG, DDG, FFG, or CVN?
Coolness points.
Your hearing loss is not service related!
They all should have got a new teak deck.
Bicentenial was in 1988.
Admirals and captains get way too much wasted space
Nice Shrek intro
But Wisconsin did not get a Spook Room.
The Whiskey is pretty much brand new, the least miles, and likely her extended warranty 😅. Bring her back. NJ has more miles than a rental car.
New jersey is seasoned, whiskey is still wet behind the ears.
@cavalierliberty6838 hahaha, yes. Well said .
Did she talk back to the Admiral ?
Not many people can boast having a toilet fit for a queen.
A pity her late Majesty didn't visit . I'm assuming g the Iowa lass have mag loops for communication in machinery and flight spaces for coms . Ships of the same class do get modified according to their operational requirements and it's a big mistake to trust drawings of they aren't specific . The thought occurs if Wisconsin was last they might have been using up the budget .
BB-64 is the best ever ❤ 🇺🇸
8:23
I hate to be that guy but Ryan got something wrong. Not all the Iowa's have empty deck space there.
On Iowa, they get a basketball hoop over one of the doors there :)
Good old fashion knockout by turrets 3.
I'm sorry to say it. But, the tax payers never got our money's worth out of the USS Wisconsin. Especially in her last reactivation. Remember, she had fire damage repair as well as more modern equipment added. But she was only reactivated for only just over 2 years and 11 month. Oct. 22, 1988 until Sept. 30, 1991. And I'm one person, that thinks we should still have at least 2 active battleships. Missiles can be jammed in flight. But nothing can jam a 16" shell once fired.
You can not "jam" missiles in the way you describe
Missiles use radar or other sensors to be cued onto target, then when launched used their own seekers and data links to other platforms to hit targets
There's nothing to be gained, they'd be a waste of money and manpower
Why would the Queen have stayed on the Battleship? She was the Queen of Australia, she can take residence in any of the Governors' mansions. Or the PM's lodge or Kirribilli
I got to use the Admirals head on the USS Lexington aircraft carrier museum in Corpus Christy, Texas. I had the opportunity to explore the ship by myself, at night, for about 4 hours. It was way cool.
I would not have played Ryan as a front left pocket phone guy. Definitely thought he was a front right pocket phone guy 😩
2nd, 11 December 2024
Don't start that 1st, 2nd, 3rd place crap here. There's a pair of idiots on outlook daily channel that do that & @ 4 people that get all over them about it. If you aren't making a comment directly related to the content of this video, SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE & go back to your basement corner.
Atleast it got the poopdeck
Considering that admirals are essentially lifers and they don’t have much opportunity to spend time in their own homes, after much consideration why would the navy curtail the need for some quiet space as they review battle plans? Looking at what happens when admirals for Japan are killed or disabled during a battle, in effect it renders the ship temporarily disabled until the chain of command is reestablished. With this in mind it becomes nonsensical to have open exterior passages without a screen of steel to mask the command’s movement from ordinance fire. Though it raises the hazards of shrapnel damage it shields from everything other than freak or acts of God. If command is hit at that point then you have bigger problems since it would show that God is choosing to work against them.
In those moments of solitude it could cause them to have brought to mind aspects that could otherwise remain hidden. Even with staff around them it helps to still communicate more effectively… barring hearing loss of course.😉🫨