Simple Test for Chondromalacia (Patellofemoral Pain Syndrome)

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  • Famous Physical Therapist's Bob Schrupp and Brad Heneick describe the simple test they do to help determine whether or not a patient has Patellofemoral Pain Syndrome- which could be chondromalacia patellae. You can do this yourself.
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  • @quadruplelatte
    @quadruplelatte 6 ปีที่แล้ว +212

    “You’re not going to REALLY put it on the knee cap. You’re going to put it on the skin outside of the knee cap.” 😂 LOL. Very grateful for the clarification.

    • @hssy2jrocker
      @hssy2jrocker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Stop making a joke about it. I was almost about to skin myself. Good thing I waited for a few more seconds before doing anything reckless.

    • @cokedupcat
      @cokedupcat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hssy2jrocker LOL

  • @HamCubes
    @HamCubes 9 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Honestly, that is the *most prominent patella* I've ever seen! Excellent for demonstrating. You two are very knowledgable and fun to watch. Many thanks!

    • @dillonmike2591
      @dillonmike2591 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +physicaltherapyvideo what. does it mean if you have paella tendinitis at 12

    • @cokedupcat
      @cokedupcat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dillonmike2591 it means your body sucks and you'll be a crippled old man one day

  • @quadruplelatte
    @quadruplelatte 6 ปีที่แล้ว +301

    Came here due to knee pain .... mind blown at 1:40! LOL ... those glasses!!!! 🤓

    • @thenextstepp
      @thenextstepp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Jody Mack back when I worked for someone my boss had those same glasses and people would crack up every single time he would put them on.

    • @srod2642
      @srod2642 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol

    • @khizarabid8414
      @khizarabid8414 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just wonderful, I been tryin to find out about "best treatment for knee injury" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you ever come across - Jeneah Lansaiah Framework - (do a google search ) ? Ive heard some awesome things about it and my buddy got cool success with it.

    • @tusseriesfavoritas7441
      @tusseriesfavoritas7441 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This was great, I have been researching "tenderness around knee cap" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you ever come across - Jeneah Lansaiah Framework - (do a google search ) ? Ive heard some super things about it and my colleague got great results with it.

    • @marlonseijas7948
      @marlonseijas7948 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers for this, I've been looking for "get rid of knee pain running" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you heard people talk about - Jeneah Lansaiah Framework - (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now ) ? Ive heard some decent things about it and my neighbour got amazing results with it.

  • @planwithkellye2926
    @planwithkellye2926 7 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    PS it hurts even to walk on level ground. Forget about stairs lol

    • @jefflawrence5835
      @jefflawrence5835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right! Did yours get better?

    • @zestymushr00m85
      @zestymushr00m85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jefflawrence5835 hurt my knee just heavy lifting over the years at work, turns out it’s 90% likely it’s this, however it’s been a month of this and it’s almost a constant aching pain no matter what time of day... is it the same for you?

    • @cheshirefoxxx
      @cheshirefoxxx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zestymushr00m85 i'm an orderfiller for W, been doing heavy lifting jobs my whole life but they've been pushing me +harder for 6 months now and i feel my knees are just ready to go.. ice 20 mins on off at night, and i feel good the next day.. but a few hours in i feel an achy almost burny feeling in the lower outside corner aside the kneecap, and yes it just seems to come back randomly throughout the day

    • @jebronlames2635
      @jebronlames2635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What do y’all think i have, i can jog and walk fine but when it comes to jumping and doing things with it bent it hurts

    • @saintupid7034
      @saintupid7034 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      mine it happens when i go cycling and not even always, it happens sometimes then it takes 2-3 days to go away, mine hurts in the knee down to my shin

  • @JordyJayHomer
    @JordyJayHomer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I was once diagnosed with chondromalacia patallae, caused not by misaligned tracking of the knee cap but by "lazy" (slow) tracking, due to misfiring of the quads caused by a "slack" rectus femoris; at least that's how the physiotherapist explained it to me. The doc felt the roughness under the knee cap by rubbing it firmly from side to side while my leg was flat on the table. Luckily for me, I was pain-free in about week after doing straight leg raises with a few pounds strapped to my foot.
    Prior to being told about the leg raises, another physio diagnosed patella tendonitis (the pain is usually in the same area) and told me to rest, ice and stretch, but that treatment did nothing after a month.
    I could be wrong on the following, but: I suspect it's better doing the leg raises while lying down; in other words, starting with the leg lined up with the upper body prior to raising it. Either that, or standing and kicking out from a weighted wall pulley that's close to the floor. I guess that doing the movement this way doesn't tighten the hip flexors too much, whereas standing and kicking up passed 90 degrees might, due to the extra hip flexion.
    My injury occurred about 25 years ago, and sneaks back in minor way every few years, at which time it quickly goes away after doing the leg raises again. Yes, I probably should do them all the time, but, well, you know...life sometimes gets in the way. :-)
    In my humble, uneducated opinion, the "regular" chondromalacia that I had gets overlooked too often in favour of misalignment (PTFS), and I'm not sure why.

    • @carolt3641
      @carolt3641 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks for sharing your experience

    • @magnus263
      @magnus263 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bla bla bla

    • @Free-SpokenMedia
      @Free-SpokenMedia ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very useful comment. Thanks.

  • @pattizielinski4690
    @pattizielinski4690 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is a great video describing chondromalacia, and a first step to getting the right answers

  • @christineblanco7110
    @christineblanco7110 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Many thanks for your informative and entertaining set of videos. A doctor referred me to an NHS physio who got me standing on the leg with the bad knee with my eyes closed - didn't work! Then I went to a chiropractor who wanted me to have expensive treatment for 6 months. All this took over a year. I have tried your test, exercises and taping method and my knee has stopped aching in 3 weeks. I am so grateful, and If any pain does return I now have plenty of tape which I ordered on Amazon.

    • @upbeat_garbage0308
      @upbeat_garbage0308 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Christine Blanco that’s very odd, my physio taped my knee and also gave me exercises to strengthen my muscles and I haven’t had any issues since although I have times where it’s painful. You must’ve just had a bad physio :/

  • @robinshugart1862
    @robinshugart1862 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am so glad to have found this video. I was just diagnosed with this. One knee is bone on bone and the other still has a tiny bit of cartilage left. I’m really thankful to be able to learn of things that can help.

  • @renekenshin6573
    @renekenshin6573 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Wow, I actually tried the tape method and the pain became minimal or tolerable when walking up or down the stairs. This is awesome

  • @rianyounes9187
    @rianyounes9187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank you for the wonderful demonstration.
    I just want to add something, Quadriceps strengthening exercises with the emphasis on the quadriceps and hip abductors in my opinion are probably the best long-term solution for this condition.

  • @realestatejada
    @realestatejada 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I subscribed because this video has helped me be able to even just properly walk. Yay for at home PT from these dudes. Thanks much. God bless

  • @MrBluntNose
    @MrBluntNose 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    OMG!!! I love you guys! Thx so much. That tape solution solved the clicking problem. It's been bothering me for the past decade. I feel so stupid but relieved that I have a solution now.

    • @evm6177
      @evm6177 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah same here.. these guys sure know what they are talking about.

    • @mansoorzia9155
      @mansoorzia9155 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How long did you have it on?

    • @MrBluntNose
      @MrBluntNose 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mansoorzia9155 A few months. I've been combining it with quad reps and it's better now

    • @mansoorzia9155
      @mansoorzia9155 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Taping every day for months?

  • @boulderingrocks2
    @boulderingrocks2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    These two are so cute! I love the dry humor. (also this helped a lot- thank you!

  • @85nikki96
    @85nikki96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thank you!! Now I understand exactly what's going on with my knees. My knees have hurt going DOWN stairs for a few months now, just like you said. They hurt a lot less going up. But with the tape they feel so much more stable and the pain was much less. So now I will do your exercises. I love you guys.

    • @anshuman5554
      @anshuman5554 ปีที่แล้ว

      how are you now? and what did you do to get rid of it

  • @fastspeedcar8576
    @fastspeedcar8576 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Guys, Love learning new things brain like a sponge gaining all that knowledge.

  • @dlee6985
    @dlee6985 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate these videos. I'm trying to fiure out whats wrong with my knees (along with seeing actual doctors) but it's been hard to find answers. I saw the title of this video and it sparked a memory and I remember my doctor suggesting that I had patellofemoral syndrome back when I was a kid. The mention of pain going up and down the stairs was spot on. I will keep this video in mind when I see my doctor next time and maybe it will put me on the right track to solving my knee issues.

    • @dlee6985
      @dlee6985 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      btw are those glasses from 2050? lol never seen ones that connect in the middle magnetically?

  • @advadhuta
    @advadhuta 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another fantastic video from you guys. Educational and fun. You guys a ray of sunshine. Thanks so much! :-)

  • @latonyaevans2373
    @latonyaevans2373 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was recently diagnosed w chrondomaleria, torn meniscus & arthritis in my knee. I went to 3 diff ortho drs & none of them suggested the tape treatment. That's a very good idea. Thx for sharing & very easy to understand.

  • @JoelisSc33p0
    @JoelisSc33p0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    thank you so much for making this video. ive suffered from pains in my left knee which you described precisely. pain when bending. much more so painful going down hill or steps then up.

    • @OOO-jt8ug
      @OOO-jt8ug ปีที่แล้ว

      How are you now? Did you cure it?

  • @ed8235
    @ed8235 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Im so glad I found this. I recently started suffering from this and it’s painful just to sit up. It makes squatting near impossible.

    • @pranavgautam96
      @pranavgautam96 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey. How's it going?

    • @Dzonssi
      @Dzonssi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What did you do?

  • @cmetube
    @cmetube 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    very good video. explains the pathophysiology for my MD boards. you guys are great!

    • @cmetube
      @cmetube 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      physicaltherapyvideo thanks guys. There were so many PT questions on it, and no one explains it better than you guys. I swore I had to remember what you said in this video for treating one PT symptom. Your videos are great. Thanks!

  • @PalmDreams
    @PalmDreams 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    how neat to find this...I cannot use the stairs with one of my legs due to sever knee pain.ONLY when using stairs....I am 63...I put some tape on it and it greatly reduced the pain...I go to the PT in two days so this was helpful and will save time in there to put towards exercises and treatment rather than diagnosing...although I imagine he will still want to do that himself!! thanks...great info! very helpful!

  • @radhika4378
    @radhika4378 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanx this really helped me to be more imaginative about my knee

  • @davidcoomber4050
    @davidcoomber4050 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been In agony for years putting off knee replacement, walking up and down stairs is/ was a nightmare, tried this taping and the pain is 70% less , Well done B&B the best on TH-cam....in my opinion 👍

    • @OOO-jt8ug
      @OOO-jt8ug ปีที่แล้ว

      How are you? Did you beat the pain? Do you need taping it today? Hi

  • @kenankenan8281
    @kenankenan8281 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are great. my monts old pain gone , from 7-8 to 1 .just 2 minutes after i put the tape. thanks .

  • @vikvok9400
    @vikvok9400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You guys are the best. You helped me to get rid of my mother’s back pain

  • @joshuatreebje
    @joshuatreebje 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brads folding glasses are really cool!. Never seen anything like that before haha.

  • @23fm
    @23fm 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    massively helpful. thanks

  • @PaulM852
    @PaulM852 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank-you very much. I have a bit too much fat around the knee, so taping it wouldn't work - so I tried another approach with a patella knee strap but with a tightly rolled wad of paper towels (about 1" in diameter) stuffed between the strap and knee on the outer side of the knee cap. This shifted the knee cap over to the inside and solved the problem 100% walking downstairs. The pain didn't go away totally as you say, but it's not nearly as bad. I then pulled a knee compression sleeve over the entire knee to keep the knee strap in place.

  • @4hmarcie
    @4hmarcie 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello! Great video! I actually have pain going up the stairs. I was ill with subacute thyroiditis for 3.5 months and was not sitting well at my desk, since it was the only comfortable position in the midst of my illness, but I am feeling the repercussions now, as it wreaked havoc on my left leg muscles, which are now inflamed and out of whack, from the hip to the knee.

  • @phacocataractdrlvkraju5
    @phacocataractdrlvkraju5 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Doctors, awesome presentation, Very nice video, correct taping method explained in a lucid way, thank you sooooo much, can u please suggest tips to prevent the tap coming off with in one day after wearing full length pant ( trousers), the edge of the tape sticking to inner side of Pant cloth

  • @jeffhermida4788
    @jeffhermida4788 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this video. It gave me a good understanding. I had an mri and xray done on my left knee. It turns out the cause of my knee pain is that the groove in my femur is too shallow causing the knee cap to track outward. MD told me the best way to treat this is PT. Thanks again for the video.

    • @OOO-jt8ug
      @OOO-jt8ug ปีที่แล้ว

      How are you? Did you cure it ?

  • @j-j-j6
    @j-j-j6 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot. Interesting and Good explanation.

  • @salliejcox1
    @salliejcox1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live in NYC, and 100% cannot avoid stairs at all - subways everyday and a six floor walk up. I can't wait to try this! My pain is when I'm walking downstairs, when I'm walking upstairs its very mild, and doesn't bother me.

    • @shristiranjan5835
      @shristiranjan5835 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey do u face this only in one knee ?

  • @Josh-lk5br
    @Josh-lk5br 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much it helps so keep putting tape until it feels better?

  • @kellymekdeci8584
    @kellymekdeci8584 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fabulous and helpful video

  • @Naruto-iw5qz
    @Naruto-iw5qz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good info. Thank you! Got this at 9th grade year of runnng cross country from overuse 6 days every week all year round for high school running 14-20 miles weekly without stretching or good shoes, but first you must ear then learn I would have to say..

    • @Naruto-iw5qz
      @Naruto-iw5qz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now 11th grade and haven’t attend sports sense and could only run a lap after it happened. Never new what happened just thought it swell and be down a couple of days and the life got real..

    • @OOO-jt8ug
      @OOO-jt8ug ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Naruto-iw5qz how are you now

  • @rosarius3409
    @rosarius3409 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you! it really works!!!

    • @BobandBrad
      @BobandBrad  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to hear that!

  • @diagonals792
    @diagonals792 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    congratulations on 1 million subscribers!
    i think i have watched every single one of your knee-related videos. its been a rough time for me lately with my knees.

    • @BobandBrad
      @BobandBrad  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much! please heal up soon:)

    • @ladyaltovise2294
      @ladyaltovise2294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me, too! My PT sessions ran out , leaving me only 1/2 thru my rehab. Only 75% functional. 2x a week. Insurance covered 16 sessions. Thsts it. Too bad. No more, gotta go. :-( I dislocated my patella. I'm a tour guide in NYC so walking & stair climbing is my livelihood. I must COMPLETELY recover. I've watched every video. But my therapist gave me no further instructions. He taught me how to walk UP stairs in 6 weeks. YAY! But what about the other part? LOL Never got to the down stair therapy session. WTH?!!! After continuing my daily exercises, devoted!!! 2hr sessions. I desperately knew something was missing in my rehab. I'm up at 4,5,6am watching videos for answers & solutions. & HOT DOGGIT I knew i could count on my boo thangs * Bob & Brad* to get me together! They're not the most famous therapists on the internet , for nothing!!!! I believe after I try this tape thingy, I'll be on my way too 100% The injury happened 6months ago. As of now, 24 weeks post injury ( no surgery BTW)Now I can do everything , pain free , even sit in a low sofaseat for hours due to my diligent exercises and drills and TENS machine daily. Thank the Lord!!! But I still can't run -at all, go down stairs, and only dance I can do is electric slide. Basic. BUMMER! I'm a trained dancer, and fierce Lindy hopper. I won't try any stunts or any acrobats but I would like to at least dance like a sexy momma in the dance floor, again :-). Also, I see incline walking is needed, as well, to stop my knee from free falling with i step on the decline. I wish i could get a facetime with you guys. You rock! You're an everyday blessing in everyway!!! Thanks again for being "ON IT"!

  • @anoshya
    @anoshya ปีที่แล้ว

    I had this problem after knee replacement. The surgeon said it was futile to line the back of the knee cap. He said the tracking was not great. Had constant pain going down stairs but it’s bearable..will try the tape method. Thanks

  • @jessicanewton6458
    @jessicanewton6458 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey great video! Would you be able to do show the treatment for the non-typical PFPS. So on the medial side of the condyle? Cheers, Jess

  • @havoc2431
    @havoc2431 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these guys.

  • @withjjbkk
    @withjjbkk 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    you guys are great !!

  • @ibetitwascameron
    @ibetitwascameron 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    first i want to say thank you for video. your post shed a ton light for me on what chlondermancia is and how to treat it. my question is there a way to cure it. i injured my knee in the military. i got surgery. i was able to go back to duty. A year goes by and i go for a physical and I'm diagnosis with the symdrome. the military medically discharged me for chlronomancia. thanks a lot for taking the time and reading my post. you guys are awesome

  • @saraxortega
    @saraxortega 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Currently sad due to my knee pain. It feels like it’s getting worse and at this point idk what to do..

    • @dancasey9410
      @dancasey9410 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know how you feel😞 I tore my ACL when I was four yrs old. I have had knee pain for as long as I can remember and had to quit my favorite sports in school like basketball. It really sucks.😔

    • @annikaniclasen9025
      @annikaniclasen9025 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sara i went to the doctor the 17 of january, last month bcs of that (excuse me) fucking knee pain, and the doctor told me that he thinks that i have “patellar tendonitis” or Jumper’s knee. He told me to come back if the pain hasn’t gone away in a month, so i was there today, and i’m gonna get an x-ray tomorrow, and i’m maybe going to an specialist (orthopedic surgeon). I’m in pain every day, and i hate it, bcs i can’t do the things that i love, playing soccer. I went to soccer practice last night, and i got so much pain in my knee, and it felt like someone stuck a thick needle right over my knee cap. 🙄🙄🙄

    • @dancasey9410
      @dancasey9410 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@annikaniclasen9025 ugh I'm so sorry. I had to quit my passion (basketball) because of my patella femoral syndrome. Its awful. Doing mast anything hurts.

    • @annikaniclasen9025
      @annikaniclasen9025 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Omar Jordan it began one year ago, and it’s just gotten worse. I don’t know how it happened, and i started PT last week.

    • @ManOfAttitudeLP1998
      @ManOfAttitudeLP1998 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too

  • @JacksonsKennel
    @JacksonsKennel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Will these tape method help keep the kneecap stable in someone with EDS (Ehlers Danlos Syndrome)? I have EDS and my kneecaps drift very often, making walking, driving and such difficult.

  • @jeffreywhitaker5154
    @jeffreywhitaker5154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I want to know whats the criteria to know WHEN its time to have surgery. My knee buckles at times, I can no longer squat at the knees and come up without pushing down on the floor with my hands to help getting up from a squat position, and I have pain when I bend at the knees. I don't take meds YET for the pain . Luckily it doesn't hurt to walk so I'm still able to golf. I want to know more about the surgery and hear testimonials from people who had this Chondro and how their knees feel AFTER surgery.

  • @09Youba
    @09Youba 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Bob and Brad for all of your video. I had the Patellofemoral pain and have been doing the exercises for 4 month and now I have very little pain. Can you tell me what I can do to relive the pain in my quad? 6 Doctors and 2 PT's and no one knows what to do. I think the femoral nerve is trapped in the quad. Thank you.

  • @tennis10182
    @tennis10182 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Bob & Brad! Great video, thanks! Hoping you guys still check out these comments! My question is, you mentioned most of the time the knee cap may be misaligned on the lateral side of the knee so you want to tape it and pull it towards the medial side. However, how do we know which way the knee cap is actually misaligned? Mine feels like its jutted more on the medial side but I'm hesitant to tape it as I'm just not sure.

  • @WibbyKDX
    @WibbyKDX 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tried this tonight with some KT tape and I’m amazed by the pain reduction

  • @genciestebanez1314
    @genciestebanez1314 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful video and extremely clear. I have a doubt about the tape. Is it a standard tape that I can buy in any pharmacy (like surgical tape) or a special one for sports?
    Cheers

  • @wonderwoman714
    @wonderwoman714 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys are awesome

  • @rahaffaoury5758
    @rahaffaoury5758 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks guys it's very helpful
    Can u explain to me
    Why it's happens alot more in women
    And
    Why it's hurts alot more when downstairs!?

  • @mohannadalmadanie4425
    @mohannadalmadanie4425 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    useful waiting for next video
    thanks alot

    • @11122hassan
      @11122hassan 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey man I tried it I put on selatape and still painful in my knees and back.

  • @suryakantsingh1863
    @suryakantsingh1863 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Any advice on knee clicking on bending but no pain
    Also femur externally rotated and pelvis anteriorly tilted

  • @Nikola-zb6rs
    @Nikola-zb6rs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m getting an A on my essay because of y’all

  • @stevepimentel237
    @stevepimentel237 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey guys great video was wondering do I put tape for sing the way the pain is because mine's is on the inside and your demonstration shows it for the outside when it comes to taping it

  • @AexoeroV
    @AexoeroV 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can i use tape on my knee everytime i train my legs if i have this? I have pai in the upper right part of the knee cap and from what a doc told(he didn't examined me though) i have Condromalacia Pattelae

  • @wingovertd
    @wingovertd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot for your video! How should I tape in my case that hurts when I press my kneecap down and then contract my leg. Beside It cracke a lot when I squat, and with pain.

  • @oversteer1000
    @oversteer1000 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many thanks for this video. I walk up a 5 mile paved road with a 20% grade once in the morning and once in the evening for a total of 10 miles. I have been doing it for years without a problem. Yesterday my left knee started to hurt half way up the hill and on the way down the pain really kicked in. !&%#@! IT HURT!! I had pain in the knee even when I wasn't doing anything but sitting or lying down. I did the exercises shown and the pain was reduced 90% almost immediately. I want to WALK as I crave the feeling it gives me but I know if I go back out immediately I will make things much worse. So I will do the exercises for the next 3 to 4 weeks and gradually start the walking routine again.
    AGAIN THESE EXERCISES WORK!!

  • @ahambrahmasmi4402
    @ahambrahmasmi4402 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How about Testing with the Knee Brace? I am 28 yrs old and Physical labor. My doctor said it's the cartillage under the patella. So I guess it's PFPS. He checked it by pushing the knee cap downwards and asking me to bend. Than there was a locking sensation by which he confirmed its PFPS. Is this right?

  • @Lila77722
    @Lila77722 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi bob and brad! Can you possibly do a review of the bioskin ten-7 brace that is used on your thigh?

  • @adamandlorraine
    @adamandlorraine 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The effect of the taping was an instant relief thanks guys. Now to find out the root cause of this pain. I have been running for 8 months without knee pains, then suddenly this pain has started. I did increase my distance from 5k up to 8/9k

    • @OOO-jt8ug
      @OOO-jt8ug ปีที่แล้ว

      How are you now? Is chondromalacia still with you and cases the pain?

  • @tevman69
    @tevman69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I injured my left-knee Meniscus a few months ago and am pain free now, my knee feels strange until I ‘Pop’ it (out side of knee cap)
    by flexing my leg up and down a few times. Will this tapering method work for me. Great videos, by the way. Thank you.

  • @yeshazion4098
    @yeshazion4098 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I asked before BUT NO ANSWER ...what about no pain when walking or bending. Or exercising ..severe lightening pain whenever it wants..laying..sitting..sometimes standing.last 30 sec. Or so..sometimes everyday sometimes not...nothing therapists have done to knee has caused pain..no clicking..or catching..only severe quick sharp pain out of nowhere

  • @jaconova
    @jaconova 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would be good to consider/discuss that we don´t always move/bend our legs in the "perfect scenario", i.e straight line and to the front (which would provide perfect tracking of the patella, in theory at least). Consider soccer movements: tons of out of balance, multiple direction, one leg stands, through a game. Anyway, to anyone reading: stretch calves, hips, hamstrings, quads, ankles and focus on glutes strenght (main culprit, consider how much time we spend sitting).

  • @evm6177
    @evm6177 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey doc's fancy running into your video, hw r u guys. Listen my left knee has this ache i am thinking its Chondromalacia. Thanks for the tip using the tape over the knee... let me try that now.

  • @radhatripathi757
    @radhatripathi757 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for this... my knee got injured while doing jump and lunges combo.. it's been 20 days.. I have problem in bending and straightening knee...after prolonged standing or sitting( prolonged means 15 mins here). Doctor prescribed me some muscle relaxant but I didn't get better. Do I need to have x-ray done?

    • @mikhailzeero9251
      @mikhailzeero9251 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same i love lunge and jump combo that is why i got this problem. How are you after 3 years prior. Nred some light to shed

  • @Heaven7671
    @Heaven7671 8 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Omg I need this! I've had the same knee pain for months now. It feels like it's moving during prolonged sitting and just walking alone causes pain. Can u use any tape?

    • @kellygilman5535
      @kellygilman5535 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If my knee is shifting inward should i use the tape to pull the knee outward?

    • @blitzkrieg1873
      @blitzkrieg1873 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +physicaltherapyvideo sir I have chondromalacia in my right knee with a small meniscus tear in both medial and lateral meniscus. it pains very less though most of the times none at all. even while walking up the stairs. but there's a lot of popping and clicking sounds. Is it ok if I run with this issue and do the rehab.

    • @OOO-jt8ug
      @OOO-jt8ug ปีที่แล้ว

      How are you now

  • @Mordekai.Glitches
    @Mordekai.Glitches 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi sirs, thanks for ur videos. i am suffering from anterior knee pain too. but my pain is in front of my knee cap & especially below it. the pain is a 'burning' type of pain. is this also chondromalacia or knee cap tendonitis?? hopefuly u can answer me soon.

  • @gilbertosgamingreviews8973
    @gilbertosgamingreviews8973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I did it it keeps taking the tape off after I bend the knee

  • @cruzantonio92
    @cruzantonio92 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I don’t feel pain from bending, walking or going up stairs. I feel the pain from jogging, jumping and going down stairs. My left inner knee at the bottom kind of next to the knee cap.

    • @simsy123
      @simsy123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could be patellar tendinitis bro

    • @joemartin9295
      @joemartin9295 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like runners knee

    • @nava7friends
      @nava7friends 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i am having the same symptoms like you. howz ur condition now. what measures did you take.

  • @jamesmadison7551
    @jamesmadison7551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    after few steps down a steep hill, both my knees start hurting, too much running, and squatted weirdly when i jump down from a truck. I dont run for awhile my knee becomes better.

  • @Rehabsockstar
    @Rehabsockstar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    you guys are funny, but brilliant thanks

  • @nockee
    @nockee ปีที่แล้ว

    That tape really works. Cool.

  • @ZoarCaballero1991
    @ZoarCaballero1991 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every since I was about 15, I am now 25, every once in a while, my knee cap pops or gets out of place and I will fall to the ground. I have not been too alarmed since it may happen once or twice a year or maybe less than five times a year randomly..I want to go see a doctor about this now, because it happened today. I'm just wondering if this is what I may have? I have never played sports or injured my knee in any other way than the times it's gotten out of place and I just fall or almost fall. Afterwards it hurts, I cry, and the pain goes away after a day or two...Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge, and wisdom with people.

  • @missysoaps7509
    @missysoaps7509 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is a nice shirt, Bob S👍

  • @annikaniclasen9025
    @annikaniclasen9025 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you, Bob an Brad! I’m a 13 year old girl soccer player,and it turned out i have chondromalacia and soft cartilage in my right knee, and i’m gonna do physical therapy for a while. I’m gonna call the man who owns the gym in my hometown, Tvøroyri, and if he don’t know what i can do for my knee pain, i’ll have to go to the doctor AGAIN. I’ve been at the doctor’s office 3 times, the hospital 2 times, and 3 different doctors with my knee. I practice soccer 5 to 6 times a week. I know i shouldn’t practice so much, but soccer is my everything. My friends, family and doctors keep telling me that i shouldn’t practice so much right now, bcz i just came back on the field after exactly 6 weeks of being BANNED from playing. I love soccer with all my heart, but i’m in so much pain when i play. I may need to go to the hospital to do physical therapy, if it turnes out he can’t do anything to help me. I can go to another town to get physio, but then i’ll lose many hours at school.

    • @anyasimard8493
      @anyasimard8493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have the exact same problem. I am also 13 and playing comp soccer many days a week. My pt people tell me and my parents that because our hips are widening it messes up with all the joints in your knees and legs even though it’s the smallest little widening. Many girls on my team all have this same pain syndrome just because of that. I know you wrote this a year ago so I hope you feel better

    • @annikaniclasen9025
      @annikaniclasen9025 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anya daddy thank you! i got a cortisone shot in my knee about a month ago, and it really worked.
      my pain is gone, but i’ve started getting alot of new symptoms such as fatigue, nosebleeds, easily bruising and vomiting. and i’m 14 now, so these symptoms aren’t normal. so im calling my doc next week to get an appointment, bc i may have either leukemia or bloodloss.
      hope they can do something for you!

    • @anyasimard8493
      @anyasimard8493 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Annika Niclasen oh no! I hope you feel better and that you don’t have leukemia:(

    • @OOO-jt8ug
      @OOO-jt8ug ปีที่แล้ว

      How are you now

    • @annikaniclasen9025
      @annikaniclasen9025 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OOO-jt8ug at this very moment i’m fine:) i’m getting surgery next month, on sep 19th, to realign my knee cap and to repair my LCL, MPFL and medial meniscus:)
      i haven’t played soccer for about 4 months, because even the slightest misalignment of my knee causes my knee cap to shift and almost dislocate, but i’m happy to say that i’ll be returning to the field in march, if everything goes well with my blood/immune disorder:)
      i’ve been very sick lately because of my blood/immune disorder so my knee isn’t my biggest problem at the moment, but i’ve been working hard so i can return to the game i’ve loved since i was a little kid:)

  • @lanajabbar7448
    @lanajabbar7448 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good one thank

  • @sherrywyllie2163
    @sherrywyllie2163 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys are good at explaining. My physical therapist had me climbing stairs, doing leg push ups (on bad knee) wall squats until my knee is completely torn up. Now along with searing stabbing pain I have numbness above and below my knee.

  • @alkalisunshine
    @alkalisunshine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ive had subluxations on both knees my whole entire life and got a lateral release on one knee and now it subluxes both way.

    • @valeriemoon6644
      @valeriemoon6644 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got the same surgeries and they didn’t work, I feel very hopeless

  • @MikeS-um1nm
    @MikeS-um1nm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is an interesting video, and I'd like to try this test, BUT... my kneecaps DO NOT MOVE! This is about the 12th video I've seen today, since I started researching the pain that started today, and in several videos, I watched kneecaps being moved side to side and up and down, and mine just don't do that. In fact, I can't detect any movement AT ALL. The only thing I can detect is my skin moving a little. I don't know if this is a bad thing or not, but watching this guy's patella move the way it did, blew my mind! He and I might as well be a different species! Either that or I've got some freaky knees, if his are normal! On REAL close inspection, and by pushing REALLY HARD, my kneecaps move about 1/4 of an inch. That's it. If this pain persists until tomorrow, I'll have to see a Doctor.

  • @rrozsa4283
    @rrozsa4283 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have had surgery for patellar retinaculum lateral relaease about 2 weeks ago. Now my knee bends to a 90 degree angle. Can you suggest me some excercises to bend it more and more? Thank you so much.

  • @tav1488
    @tav1488 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have a video on the front of the ankle ? It hurts when fully stretched

  • @icyngan
    @icyngan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if my knee cap pull to inside not outside? How do I check which side my knee cap is pulling to?

  • @Velliott54
    @Velliott54 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    ok, first I want to say you guys are GREAT. I love your videos.
    My issue is as follows:
    1. I have little to no movement in my patella.
    2. fluid in mostly my left knee.
    3. I went to a specialist and he used a long needle to draw some of the fluid for testing. I now have a new issue. pain in my left shin. Is it possible the needle did something?

  • @vmangani
    @vmangani 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you gentleman. I have it all. Chondromalacia and arthritis after years of jogging. I can't squat anymore. Advice?

  • @farisal-noaman5542
    @farisal-noaman5542 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where is the next follow up video, i cant find it ?

  • @rameshvellingiri
    @rameshvellingiri 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot for this video. I am using knee braces from Donjoy company as I was diagnosed as stage 1 chondromalacia patallea . if I use this tape along with the knee braces would it be usefell to solve the disease. ??

  • @mansoorzia9155
    @mansoorzia9155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't have much pain but clicking, grinding etc. So, for how long I should use this?

  • @eamoncrosby2368
    @eamoncrosby2368 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My other half has Attenuated patella alta and several dislocations a week / subluxations to her joints.
    she too has EDS.
    She’s had so many operations to fix this as she has NO grove to hold knees in place . They tried to make her one . and they all failed it’s made her knee worse. She left with complex regional pain syndrome . As her surgeons have damage the nerves in her leg from her knee replacement and left her with drop foot..
    This is only a temporary fix the tape is fantastic and does work.
    I have watch her over the years splint / brace and tape her knee for over 20 years the tape is doing the job your muscles should be as they are too weak hence the tape but the problem is she has extremely weak muscles left dip in top of the leg from muscles waste just above the knee as a result of taping the knee cap daily. It’s a catch 22 as the taping the knee has left her with other problems

  • @nawardaiub5592
    @nawardaiub5592 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "my kneecap is bigger than this" wins 2020 bragfest

    • @anniemunson3675
      @anniemunson3675 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      “You see this Lonnie? He got..HE DOES HAVE A BIG PATELLA!”

  • @mohergenrader2113
    @mohergenrader2113 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I had found this years ago. I've spent 10 years going to Garey Ortho being told nothing was wrong. Last year I finally got an MRI and now it's stage IV chondromalacia and I need a knee replacement. I'm taking now.

    • @rit20095
      @rit20095 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did u go ahead with the surgery? I m 45 n diagnosed with grade 4 cmp.what treatment did u take?

    • @mohergenrader2113
      @mohergenrader2113 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @rit20095 They didn't get the mri til i had a fit. That's when they found what was wrong. I'm still putting it off trying to get the nerve up. I think I'll be going to USC this year. It's hard to trust people. I know someone who had a bad surgery and is still suffering.

  • @Korea-zf9mi
    @Korea-zf9mi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the video and I have a question.
    For chondromalacia patella, does the patella move only laterally? cause if it moves inside, the taping method will make things worse.

    • @HopefulLamp
      @HopefulLamp 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      오 놀랍게도 한국인 분이 계셨네요. 실례가 안된다면 효과가 있었는지 여쭈어봐도 될까요?

  • @josh-nc6eg
    @josh-nc6eg 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it possible for your knee to shift inward instead of outwards? And how would you know which way it's shifting to?

  • @miss2loveley
    @miss2loveley 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I could watch the whole video, but when the doctor in the blue shirt started to move the knee back and forward I've had to stop. My last MRI was in 2010 , and I've got Chondromalacia of the Patella with subchondral marrow oedema in the femoral trochlea I haven't reached 40 yrs as yet. I was a gymnast. My knee problems started around the age of 8 doing classical ballet. In order to strengthen the thigh muscles, I went on gymnastics. By the age of 15 my knees were killing me, and I've had to stop gymnastics. I did not stop being active and started dancing, and by the age of 18, I could hardly walk, drive a manual car, and it was then that I've had the Keyhole knee operation which didn't fix anything. In 2004 plantar fasciitis was added to the mix, exercise is very hard for me. My brain wants too, but my legs are telling me no. My knees will give away at anytime, going up a step, doing down a step, getting up from sitting down for a while. The amount of times I've almost fall is crazy e.g. when entering a bus (public transport), as the first step on the bus as is high, like going up a step. The bus drivers always look at me with big eyes, like what is wrong with this young lady? Not knowing my knees are of a 80yrs old lady (one with bad bones that is).
    Naproxen and codeine are my 'friends', McConnell taping did work for me. Nevertheless like I've been doing for years, is just leaving with these pulsating, unreliable, locking, give away broken knees, as they will not kill me.

  • @mostlycusimbored
    @mostlycusimbored 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got pain just watching the patella move against the bone

  • @truehistory8440
    @truehistory8440 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    My kneecaps must be tight or something because I can't move them at all like the guy did in this video. Can't move it left or right. It's stuck right in the middle. And I actually do often have a very tight feeling with my knees.

    • @alkalisunshine
      @alkalisunshine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      dude, kneecaps moving that much ain't normal.

    • @pranavgautam96
      @pranavgautam96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Kneecap wouldn't move if your muscles aren't relaxed. Keep the leg relaxed and try moving. It's natural to be able to move it when relaxed.

    • @zcharged8294
      @zcharged8294 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      pranavv gautamm this seemed to work for me, although seemed like one kneecap was a bit tighter than the other. Can this happen (eg maybe a reason is that the strength balance isn’t the same in both legs around kneecap), or does it just mean I wasn’t fully relaxed?

    • @pranavgautam96
      @pranavgautam96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zcharged8294 try again. I have knee problems too but when fully relaxed, I'm able to move both kneecaps equally.

    • @gilbertosgamingreviews8973
      @gilbertosgamingreviews8973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is another type of knee problem it might be causing the pain

  • @Jarjarjar21
    @Jarjarjar21 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep doing what you're doing lads. Repetition is the mother of learning. Relief is had. Merci Merci.

  • @whatever9770
    @whatever9770 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can see it on a straight X-ray. Mine shows the patella out of place, with messy cartilage plus some arthritis in the femur, where the Patella is knocking against it. You don’t need arthroscopicy.