I purchased a Catalina 263RLS Banner Edition brand new in 2015 and have used it basically for full time living as I travel for work .. I have zero complaints , I have learned a ton about trailers since owning one ….. mostly it’s up to the owner / user to maintain them . Preventative Maintenance Prevents Costly repairs.
I bought that exact Catalina camper last year and I love it! Had some minor repairs around the camper within the first couple months that were taken care of through warranty. My only complaint is the camper sits so high it rocks side to side no matter what I do.
Hey man been following you a short time but love the content and personality in your videos, so as an enthusiast just wanted to toss my input in there. I had a 2019 JayFlight 28BHS with the Elite Package and currently have a 2022 Catalina Legacy 343BHTSCK with the all the perks. You are totally spot on with endless pros an cons list with comparing the two coach’s but at the end of the day if I had to pick one I would go with Coachman over Jayco
Drove out to Michigan and bought a 2020 Catalina Legacy 293RLDS from you guys a little over a month ago and camped in it all the way back to California. Some of the stops along the way the temperature dropped to as low as 18 degrees overnight. We had the furnace running at night, stayed nice and cosy in the trailer and only had one night where the RV dump valve froze and the drinking water hose outside the trailer. Thanks to TH-cam, my husband has since insulated the dump valve outside of the enclosed underbelly and made his own heated and insulated water hose. Personally we have been very happy with the performance of the Catalina in such cold temperatures! We still need to fit our own battery disconnect though, I think that must be a new standard feature for the 2021 models! Thanks for the videos, we are still watching them!
You commented on the aluminum fender flairs. Why do none of the manufacturers make aluminum ceiling fan covers? The plastic ones last a few years at best.
"Somebody's got to pay for lunch" and I'm willing to pay for dessert if the pie is good. Both are great trailers to me, but the heavy load roof makes me feel safer from widow makers. JaySmart lights, I love that feature. Then there's the Goodyear tires.
Just takes practice. Go slow. If you don't like what it's doing then stop & turn the wheel other way. Still can't get it? Pull forward a bit and give her another shot.
Great job with your videos, I like the way you give a fair assessment in your reviews. I just bought a new unit from my local family ran dealer and still watch your videos.
I love our 2019 Catalina 263RLSS. Glad to know that they compare so nicely with Jayco. This is our 1st new camper. We had previously owned a 1996 Catalina we bought in 2015. We liked that it was in relatively good shape for such an old trailer.
A big thing with me is access when slides are closed. Yes, some have two doors so you could go from a "captive bedroom/bath" to the living area, but, if it's raining or at night, that could be a problem. If the bedroom is not next to the bathroom and the slide is closed so you have to go out side to get there, for us "seasoned" citizens, that can be a big problem, especially in foul weather or in the middle of the night.
I love your honest, detailed, comparisons. Since you asked, more information on the energy usage and solar setups would be appreciated. I know many people use these as temporary full time homes, and have questions in regards to this. Maybe whether or not a window AC unit would be able to be mounted in these? Thanks! Keep up the good reviews!
This video is now about 2 years old and fairly outdated The point in the video is there's not a clear "this one is better." It's often a matter of which is more appealing to you
I like more things about #teamCatalina, but the lack of roof ladder makes it a hard no for me. I wish both brands would at least try to color match baggage & exterior doors. Love the Catalina smooth nose.
I agree on the baggage doors. Having gone thru some production plants I can tell you it's tricky. The MFGs don't usually make the baggage doors, so they do their best to try to line things up. That's why so many RVs have similar color patterns -- they have to try to conform a bit to what's available.
A big problem with a "camp queen" is coverings. Standard spreads are "standard queen" size. You have to "hide" the extra cloth when having a camp queen. Just an observation.
This is certainly true to an extent, but as RV'ing has EXPLODED in popularity the past 5 years more suppliers for things like camp queen or even bunk bedding have come out of the woodwork. You can get specialty things like that on Etsy or even Amazon quite often now. Walmart sheets certainly tend to be a bit of a hiccup, but sources do now exist that definitely didn't before.
I prefer the Catalina. Pricing, underbelly, bedroom is fine like you said I'm not going to live in the bedroom. I'd spend more on a solar system too off grid
And that's all super fair. That's why we carry them. I don't spend time in the bedroom other than sleeping either. I'd rather keep the money where I am camping (or just save it)
It’s such a small thing, but since I have put on new fender trim on our trailer (that happen to be cracking again 😡) I cannot overstate how much I love the aluminum trim on the Catalina. That being said, I’d probably go with the Jayco overall.
The rear ladder, the interior decor is more my taste, and mostly, the warranty. You see and hear about so many RV quality horror stories from all these companies. The warranty gives me a little bit better peace of mind. I don’t know if you’ve ever watched the RVRoofInstall channel, but they have opened my eyes to issues with the build quality. Speaking of ladders, do you know of any weight limits on them, like, hypothetically, say you’re north of 260? Hypothetically...
Normally I would give Catalina a nod. But they left out a very important thing for me. A ladder. Those seals need to be checked, and sometimes I am out 4 months at a time. Ladder on the trailer, they will be checked. No ladder, sometimrs they won't.
Josh, Is there a reason, beyond just ascetics, why the Catalina has what looks a fiberglass front cap and the Jayco has a corrugated aluminum front cap? Could both be outfitted safely with 30 pound propane tanks? Respectfully WS
Jay Flights weigh more. They save a little weight my maintaining a thinner metal on the nose. It is corrugated to retain strength. Catalinas can afford the extra weight as they tend to be slightly lighter overall. So they use a thicker non-corrugated nose metal which they've done an AMAZING job of painting nice and sharply Jay Flights are 30lb tanks standard Catalinas are 20's, but could be changed to 30's aftermarket (for a fee of course)
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thank you for the explanation. And I take it from your response that adding after market 30 pound tanks wouldn't adversely impact the hitch weight or compromise safety. Respectfully WS
@@wmschooley1234 You're certainly adding SOME weight... but if the smidge of extra weight added is the straw that breaks the camel's back, then you're likely looking at too heavy of an RV in the first place if that makes sense.
Our inventory was WIPED OUT by the demand this season, so we're still working on restocking a lot of things. We're basically completely out of Rockwoods even now (they keep selling AS SOON as they land) As soon as I can get more in stock I'll definitely have some Signature comparisons coming. Rockwood is a bit tricky, though. Somehow they carved themselves out some serious "in between" spaces. Signature for instance is sort of like if Eagle HT and Full Eagle travel trailers had an ultralite baby.. they don't EXACLTY fit head to head with either of them.
Please let us know the gvw of each one you are showing us. Not the empty weight but the actual gross vehicle weight. Thank you so much for your help and hard work.
I have a 2021 JayFlight on order and it was my understanding that the rear ladder is standard. I saw the build sheet and it was not offered as an option.
You're 100% right and I appreciate you pointing this out. Ladders are still optional on SLX. It has only recently become standard and apparently in the moment I slipped back into old info. Hard to keep it all straight on the fly sometimes! Thank you for watching, and please don't ever hesitate to bring things like this up. I'm not perfect and appreciate the helping hand :)
We have a Catalina and love it. We debated between that and the Jayco and couldn’t be happier. Question- Do you recommend putting a zip tie or Velcro strap around the awning arms when towing? I have seen some post on Facebook where the awnings have came open and ripped off the trailer. Thank you. I enjoy and appreciate all that you do.
Here's how I see that: * It costs basically nothing. * It might do nothing for you * But it MIGHT save THOUSANDS in repairs *Only note: BE SURE you put a note on the awning button to remove the strapping before opening* Do I do it personally? No. Do I think it's a good idea? Very much so. Yeah.
@@leehillier5582 It's super rare. The "Clutch" basically doesn't tend to fail on awnings with any frequency. I'll hear/see of one or two a year, but that's among the THOUSANDS of people that roll thru here annually.
Thanks for watching, Sherri. It's about to get a whole lot colder outside here, but I'll keep the footage running as long as I can keep my fingers from freezing :)
I noticed in the comparison, Catalina's awing covered both doors, while Jayco only covered main door. Is that just different in models, or does Catalina typically have a bigger awning?
That's something that will vary from model to model. This isn't a floor plan vs floor plan comparison Rather roughly stacking up the features each brand offers across basically all its models.
Isn't the weight capacity of the jayco ladder at 200#? seems kinda light weight. Not many guys under 200 and my wife is not going up there. I love the LED smart lights with reverse lights on my 2021 SLX 212QB, but how come nobody has thought to put a 3rd brake light on a camper?
200lbs is the weight limit of the ladder from the supplier to pretty much any brand out there with very, very few exceptions. So the MFGs build their walls to support the same weight. I've been over 200 (up to 225 at one point) and got on them without issue. I certainly noticed more stress on the ladders at that point, but with careful slow ups and downs never have had an issue. Jayco has done some double brake lights here and there, but mostly on stuff like their giant toy haulers. I think the answer to "why hasn't any brand added a 3rd brake light" is the simple (yet unfortunate) fact that MOST buyers simply do not understand its benefit and do not ask for the feature. MFGs build what people want. Even if it's not what they "should" be wanting.
Clarification: That was on the *White Hawk* brand -- not Jay Flight. I wouldn't be surprised if Jay Flight *COULD* pass testing, but they haven't actually been tested
@@JoshtheRVNerd Hi Josh, sorry this is so long but I re-watched the video with my wife to give better feed back. Pros for Catalina: 20lb tanks, battery disconnect standard, magnet holdbacks, friction hinge door, aluminum fender trim, awning lights, enclosed underbelly standard, tv standard, sealed countertops!, sink covers, living area exhaust fan standard, good placement of kitchen outlets and the aluminum regular steps. I also agree that the Catalina has great curb appeal! Pros for Jayco: Good Year tires, MorRyde steps, framed windows, bigger bed option and keeping the pleated shades in the bedroom. I know Jayco build quality is great (we have a 2011 10SD pop-up that's still going strong) but for the additional cost and weight of the Jayco it just seems like too many things are an option where Catalina is just giving them to you standard. Lastly, I just seem to like the Catalina floor plans better when I compare them but I know that's subjective. Hope this is helpful!
The sealed counters throughout, friction hinged doors, magnetic door holders, drop cargo carrier on rear, open ladder bunk support, and the fireplace option in the Catalina has me leaning towards it. The missing ladder is something I'm not sure about. I love the build quality of the Jayco and that is the only thing that keeps bringing me back. But the options on the Catalina has me drawn to it. So confusing and really I'm waiting for both bunk models I'm looking at to be in stock. How often does one really have to climb on the roof? First time buyer here.
Roof-stuff can vary a bit based upon how and where the RV is both used AND stored. We have some maintenance guides on our website's resources page that I think will give you a good idea of how frequently you may expect to visit your roofing: www.haylettautoandrv.com/resources/
I love the comparison videos, but why don't you do apples to apples (bunkhouse to bunkhouse, rear kitchen to rear kitchen)? I'm team Jayco, but I don't bad mouth the others. In fact my no.1 all time favorite RV is a Wildcat (Forest River) 29RKP! 1st time I saw that, I've wanted it ever since, but life happens.
I'm trying to establish some base brand v brand comparisons first. I don't want people confused by also trying to factor floor plans into the mix. And there's just literally no way I can possibly offer floorplan to floorplan comparisons for everything we carry I can barely keep up with the normal video tours I work these comparisons in where possible Basically DOUBLING all of that again? Just literally not possible. once I get a bunch of these done I MIGHT do a very limited number of layout comparisons, but likely only a few and only on the very most popular units out there.
lol YES! Thank you! I got stuck on the word "Toothbrush" the other day But I can remember the Flintstones's home address: 1314 Stone Canyon Way, Bedrock #RVNerd
Josh, I didn’t notice comparisons of fresh water tank capacities. Many trailer models and brands are similar, but some are much larger or smaller than others?
Tank capacities vary so greatly by floor plan that it's not something I can really offer as a brand vs brand comparison factor I will say Full Flights like these tend to have some of the very best fresh water holding capacity though
@@stevez340 If you look at each brand's spec listings, then you'll likely see some similar trends (again like a Full Flight having 80gal fresh), but due to the way both Catalina and Jay Flight models vary SO GREATLY in size form each of their smallest models to their largest you'll see a large flux in grey/black holding.
30:13 truly minimizing costs would be to not put any mattress in to allow the buyer to put in what they want, as even a cheaper mattress is part of the cost the buyer pays to have to not use it & get their own❗️ The cheap matress to swap after purchase is cutting corners more so IMO & not logical; unless they made a matress an option that you can pay for IF you wanted theirs‼️ 🧐🤑 i.e. just like you said JayCo does with a TV in most all of their models❗️📺👍🏽
I know you feel strongly about that and frankly I don't disagree. I can only say that within my years of experience there'd be a shocking backlash if a MFG offered a no-mattress option. The prototypical consumer I've come to know wants to go camping because they want to just unplug and relax. They don't generally want to have to DO extra things to get it ready. That's why we've grown into such a large "one stop shop" here. I 100% agree with your idea. I also feel 100% confident that it would not prove successful. I don't like that answer... but I don't have to like it I guess.
Man O man! This would really be a toss up. I don't know how long it would take me to choose between the Catalina and Jayco. Can't I design my own Catalayco?
There are a LOT of RV brands out there. They all have good qualities about them. But we just can't carry *everything* unfortunately. We've been around a while & have a well established lineup. New additions to our lineup are tricky and need to avoid "infighting" among existing offerings as much as possible. With brands like Keystone and Jayco already on hand we pretty much have those bases nicely covered. Especially when adding things like the Rockwoods and Coachmens we carry.
Puma simply isn’t a brand we feature among our new RV lineup. In that class we already carry the top 4 selling trailers (Jay Flight, Cherokee, Catalina, and Wildwood). We carry a lot but can’t quite carry everything!
Thank you for watching while you were with us. We know our videos are long, but they're focused on providing a maximum amount of information possible for serious potential buyers.
I purchased a Catalina 263RLS Banner Edition brand new in 2015 and have used it basically for full time living as I travel for work .. I have zero complaints , I have learned a ton about trailers since owning one ….. mostly it’s up to the owner / user to maintain them .
Preventative Maintenance Prevents Costly repairs.
Prevention > Cure
Thank you!
Our pleasure
Nicely done! 🤗 🤗 🤗
TY
I bought that exact Catalina camper last year and I love it! Had some minor repairs around the camper within the first couple months that were taken care of through warranty. My only complaint is the camper sits so high it rocks side to side no matter what I do.
Ty Jared!!
Hey man been following you a short time but love the content and personality in your videos, so as an enthusiast just wanted to toss my input in there. I had a 2019 JayFlight 28BHS with the Elite Package and currently have a 2022 Catalina Legacy 343BHTSCK with the all the perks. You are totally spot on with endless pros an cons list with comparing the two coach’s but at the end of the day if I had to pick one I would go with Coachman over Jayco
TY Gary! Appreciate it :)
Drove out to Michigan and bought a 2020 Catalina Legacy 293RLDS from you guys a little over a month ago and camped in it all the way back to California. Some of the stops along the way the temperature dropped to as low as 18 degrees overnight. We had the furnace running at night, stayed nice and cosy in the trailer and only had one night where the RV dump valve froze and the drinking water hose outside the trailer. Thanks to TH-cam, my husband has since insulated the dump valve outside of the enclosed underbelly and made his own heated and insulated water hose. Personally we have been very happy with the performance of the Catalina in such cold temperatures! We still need to fit our own battery disconnect though, I think that must be a new standard feature for the 2021 models! Thanks for the videos, we are still watching them!
We appreciated the visit so much as well! So awesome to hear how well the RV has performed for you! Keep us updated!
You commented on the aluminum fender flairs. Why do none of the manufacturers make aluminum ceiling fan covers? The plastic ones last a few years at best.
Raz Mataz...love it😂
Add a little bit of the old razzle dazzle
"Somebody's got to pay for lunch" and I'm willing to pay for dessert if the pie is good. Both are great trailers to me, but the heavy load roof makes me feel safer from widow makers. JaySmart lights, I love that feature. Then there's the Goodyear tires.
Awesome video !! Love your narratives and humor !!
Thanks so much!
I love these comparisons. Now if I can only get more skilled and confident at backing up trailers.
Just takes practice. Go slow. If you don't like what it's doing then stop & turn the wheel other way. Still can't get it? Pull forward a bit and give her another shot.
Great job with your videos, I like the way you give a fair assessment in your reviews. I just bought a new unit from my local family ran dealer and still watch your videos.
Know we wish you nothing but happy camping and would still love to see you join in the discussion here on our channel :)
Are the wheel wells metal lined in the Catalina to protect the unit in the event of a tire blow out?
Catalinas are not
I love our 2019 Catalina 263RLSS. Glad to know that they compare so nicely with Jayco. This is our 1st new camper. We had previously owned a 1996 Catalina we bought in 2015. We liked that it was in relatively good shape for such an old trailer.
You did well. Catalina is super solid
A big thing with me is access when slides are closed. Yes, some have two doors so you could go from a "captive bedroom/bath" to the living area, but, if it's raining or at night, that could be a problem. If the bedroom is not next to the bathroom and the slide is closed so you have to go out side to get there, for us "seasoned" citizens, that can be a big problem, especially in foul weather or in the middle of the night.
That has a little more to do with the floor plans than the brands, but traveling/storage access is definitely super super nice somteimes.
I love your honest, detailed, comparisons. Since you asked, more information on the energy usage and solar setups would be appreciated. I know many people use these as temporary full time homes, and have questions in regards to this. Maybe whether or not a window AC unit would be able to be mounted in these?
Thanks! Keep up the good reviews!
Ty Ben!!
So at the end wich one is better catalina or jay flight. I am looking foward to buy one soon
Thanks
This video is now about 2 years old and fairly outdated
The point in the video is there's not a clear "this one is better."
It's often a matter of which is more appealing to you
You said on the cabinets they both pocket screw them, then you said they both nail it? 😂🤣😊😂😂🤣🔥
#phrasing! lol
@@JoshtheRVNerd 😂🤣😂🤣🦡
Outstanding comparison as usual
Thanks again!! More to come! :)
Ok great thanks for the info
You bet!
I like more things about #teamCatalina, but the lack of roof ladder makes it a hard no for me. I wish both brands would at least try to color match baggage & exterior doors. Love the Catalina smooth nose.
I agree on the baggage doors. Having gone thru some production plants I can tell you it's tricky. The MFGs don't usually make the baggage doors, so they do their best to try to line things up.
That's why so many RVs have similar color patterns -- they have to try to conform a bit to what's available.
What about azdel? Do they both have it?
That’s something typically used in RV lamination. Not found in this product segment
@@JoshtheRVNerd thanks!!
A big problem with a "camp queen" is coverings. Standard spreads are "standard queen" size. You have to "hide" the extra cloth when having a camp queen. Just an observation.
This is certainly true to an extent, but as RV'ing has EXPLODED in popularity the past 5 years more suppliers for things like camp queen or even bunk bedding have come out of the woodwork. You can get specialty things like that on Etsy or even Amazon quite often now.
Walmart sheets certainly tend to be a bit of a hiccup, but sources do now exist that definitely didn't before.
35:11 you are most appreciated Josh for the stellar job you & the whole Haylett RV & Auto team does‼️👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👍🏽👍🏽🙌🏽
TY Sam. Means a lot buddy
I prefer the Catalina. Pricing, underbelly, bedroom is fine like you said I'm not going to live in the bedroom. I'd spend more on a solar system too off grid
And that's all super fair. That's why we carry them. I don't spend time in the bedroom other than sleeping either. I'd rather keep the money where I am camping (or just save it)
It’s such a small thing, but since I have put on new fender trim on our trailer (that happen to be cracking again 😡) I cannot overstate how much I love the aluminum trim on the Catalina.
That being said, I’d probably go with the Jayco overall.
What Jayco features tip the scales for you?
The rear ladder, the interior decor is more my taste, and mostly, the warranty.
You see and hear about so many RV quality horror stories from all these companies. The warranty gives me a little bit better peace of mind. I don’t know if you’ve ever watched the RVRoofInstall channel, but they have opened my eyes to issues with the build quality.
Speaking of ladders, do you know of any weight limits on them, like, hypothetically, say you’re north of 260? Hypothetically...
@@jimmyninjapants3467 Most are 200lb rated
Normally I would give Catalina a nod. But they left out a very important thing for me. A ladder. Those seals need to be checked, and sometimes I am out 4 months at a time. Ladder on the trailer, they will be checked. No ladder, sometimrs they won't.
TY for the input. I'm still pushing feedback like this in hopes of getting it accomplished.
Josh, Is there a reason, beyond just ascetics, why the Catalina has what looks a fiberglass front cap and the Jayco has a corrugated aluminum front cap?
Could both be outfitted safely with 30 pound propane tanks?
Respectfully
WS
Jay Flights weigh more. They save a little weight my maintaining a thinner metal on the nose. It is corrugated to retain strength.
Catalinas can afford the extra weight as they tend to be slightly lighter overall. So they use a thicker non-corrugated nose metal which they've done an AMAZING job of painting nice and sharply
Jay Flights are 30lb tanks standard
Catalinas are 20's, but could be changed to 30's aftermarket (for a fee of course)
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thank you for the explanation. And I take it from your response that adding after market 30 pound tanks wouldn't adversely impact the hitch weight or compromise safety.
Respectfully
WS
@@wmschooley1234 You're certainly adding SOME weight... but if the smidge of extra weight added is the straw that breaks the camel's back, then you're likely looking at too heavy of an RV in the first place if that makes sense.
Comparisons are great; Can you do a comparison on a Jayco Eagle travel trailer and a Rockwood Signature travel trailer. THANKS
Our inventory was WIPED OUT by the demand this season, so we're still working on restocking a lot of things. We're basically completely out of Rockwoods even now (they keep selling AS SOON as they land)
As soon as I can get more in stock I'll definitely have some Signature comparisons coming.
Rockwood is a bit tricky, though. Somehow they carved themselves out some serious "in between" spaces.
Signature for instance is sort of like if Eagle HT and Full Eagle travel trailers had an ultralite baby.. they don't EXACLTY fit head to head with either of them.
Please let us know the gvw of each one you are showing us. Not the empty weight but the actual gross vehicle weight. Thank you so much for your help and hard work.
Ty for the input!
Introducing the Catalina brain aneurysm light. At least we're not just blue.
lol right?
I have a 2021 JayFlight on order and it was my understanding that the rear ladder is standard. I saw the build sheet and it was not offered as an option.
You're 100% right and I appreciate you pointing this out. Ladders are still optional on SLX. It has only recently become standard and apparently in the moment I slipped back into old info. Hard to keep it all straight on the fly sometimes!
Thank you for watching, and please don't ever hesitate to bring things like this up. I'm not perfect and appreciate the helping hand :)
We have a Catalina and love it. We debated between that and the Jayco and couldn’t be happier. Question- Do you recommend putting a zip tie or Velcro strap around the awning arms when towing? I have seen some post on Facebook where the awnings have came open and ripped off the trailer. Thank you. I enjoy and appreciate all that you do.
Here's how I see that:
* It costs basically nothing.
* It might do nothing for you
* But it MIGHT save THOUSANDS in repairs
*Only note: BE SURE you put a note on the awning button to remove the strapping before opening*
Do I do it personally? No.
Do I think it's a good idea? Very much so. Yeah.
Thanks for ur response. Is it something you see happen often? Or is it a rarity?
@@leehillier5582 It's super rare. The "Clutch" basically doesn't tend to fail on awnings with any frequency. I'll hear/see of one or two a year, but that's among the THOUSANDS of people that roll thru here annually.
Thank you for the comparisons. Very informative and detailed. Appreciate you doing outside (in the cold) and inside details.
Thanks for watching, Sherri. It's about to get a whole lot colder outside here, but I'll keep the footage running as long as I can keep my fingers from freezing :)
Chinese wheel bearings have ruined more vacations than all other problems combined X 10 with the possible exception of chinese tires!
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I noticed in the comparison, Catalina's awing covered both doors, while Jayco only covered main door. Is that just different in models, or does Catalina typically have a bigger awning?
That's something that will vary from model to model.
This isn't a floor plan vs floor plan comparison
Rather roughly stacking up the features each brand offers across basically all its models.
Does the Jayco Eagle and Rockwood Signature compete?
See previous reply. Short answer: Kinda..??
Isn't the weight capacity of the jayco ladder at 200#? seems kinda light weight. Not many guys under 200 and my wife is not going up there. I love the LED smart lights with reverse lights on my 2021 SLX 212QB, but how come nobody has thought to put a 3rd brake light on a camper?
200lbs is the weight limit of the ladder from the supplier to pretty much any brand out there with very, very few exceptions. So the MFGs build their walls to support the same weight.
I've been over 200 (up to 225 at one point) and got on them without issue. I certainly noticed more stress on the ladders at that point, but with careful slow ups and downs never have had an issue.
Jayco has done some double brake lights here and there, but mostly on stuff like their giant toy haulers. I think the answer to "why hasn't any brand added a 3rd brake light" is the simple (yet unfortunate) fact that MOST buyers simply do not understand its benefit and do not ask for the feature.
MFGs build what people want. Even if it's not what they "should" be wanting.
@@JoshtheRVNerd doesn’t the jaysmart feature now use the additional clearance lights as brake lights as well. Flashing 3 times when you start braking.
@@jpgale I think they've done some advancements along those lines
17:59 I thought I heard you say in another recent video JayCo actually tested their weather package recently & it’s now proven⁉️🤔💭🧐 = 🥶❄️👍🏽
Clarification: That was on the *White Hawk* brand -- not Jay Flight. I wouldn't be surprised if Jay Flight *COULD* pass testing, but they haven't actually been tested
Love the comparison videos! ! Happy Thanksgiving Josh!🦃 🍁🍂🍾
Thanks so much! Hope you and your family are safe and stay healthy!
@@JoshtheRVNerd Hi Josh, sorry this is so long but I re-watched the video with my wife to give better feed back. Pros for Catalina: 20lb tanks, battery disconnect standard, magnet holdbacks, friction hinge door, aluminum fender trim, awning lights, enclosed underbelly standard, tv standard, sealed countertops!, sink covers, living area exhaust fan standard, good placement of kitchen outlets and the aluminum regular steps. I also agree that the Catalina has great curb appeal! Pros for Jayco: Good Year tires, MorRyde steps, framed windows, bigger bed option and keeping the pleated shades in the bedroom. I know Jayco build quality is great (we have a 2011 10SD pop-up that's still going strong) but for the additional cost and weight of the Jayco it just seems like too many things are an option where Catalina is just giving them to you standard. Lastly, I just seem to like the Catalina floor plans better when I compare them but I know that's subjective. Hope this is helpful!
@@dennissadler739 thx so much for that! It's really helpful on this end :)
The sealed counters throughout, friction hinged doors, magnetic door holders, drop cargo carrier on rear, open ladder bunk support, and the fireplace option in the Catalina has me leaning towards it. The missing ladder is something I'm not sure about. I love the build quality of the Jayco and that is the only thing that keeps bringing me back. But the options on the Catalina has me drawn to it. So confusing and really I'm waiting for both bunk models I'm looking at to be in stock. How often does one really have to climb on the roof? First time buyer here.
Roof-stuff can vary a bit based upon how and where the RV is both used AND stored. We have some maintenance guides on our website's resources page that I think will give you a good idea of how frequently you may expect to visit your roofing: www.haylettautoandrv.com/resources/
I love the comparison videos, but why don't you do apples to apples (bunkhouse to bunkhouse, rear kitchen to rear kitchen)? I'm team Jayco, but I don't bad mouth the others. In fact my no.1 all time favorite RV is a Wildcat (Forest River) 29RKP! 1st time I saw that, I've wanted it ever since, but life happens.
I'm trying to establish some base brand v brand comparisons first. I don't want people confused by also trying to factor floor plans into the mix.
And there's just literally no way I can possibly offer floorplan to floorplan comparisons for everything we carry
I can barely keep up with the normal video tours
I work these comparisons in where possible
Basically DOUBLING all of that again? Just literally not possible.
once I get a bunch of these done I MIGHT do a very limited number of layout comparisons, but likely only a few and only on the very most popular units out there.
@@JoshtheRVNerd I understand, just a question. All these videos you do and edit, when do you sleep?
@@davidaukofer When do I what now?
14:03 “Yeah, I’m Thinking I’m Back!” ~ Jay S.M.A.R.T. 🤨
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Du any of these two trailers have USA made wheel bearings???? Timken is the only way to go!!!
“Notch clip button things” - the word you’re looking for is ratcheting. ;)
lol YES! Thank you!
I got stuck on the word "Toothbrush" the other day
But I can remember the Flintstones's home address: 1314 Stone Canyon Way, Bedrock #RVNerd
Josh, I didn’t notice comparisons of fresh water tank capacities. Many trailer models and brands are similar, but some are much larger or smaller than others?
Tank capacities vary so greatly by floor plan that it's not something I can really offer as a brand vs brand comparison factor
I will say Full Flights like these tend to have some of the very best fresh water holding capacity though
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thanks Josh. I thought certain models had similar capacities for most floorplans, such as Rockwood Mini Lites having 58 gal tanks
@@stevez340 If you look at each brand's spec listings, then you'll likely see some similar trends (again like a Full Flight having 80gal fresh), but due to the way both Catalina and Jay Flight models vary SO GREATLY in size form each of their smallest models to their largest you'll see a large flux in grey/black holding.
30:13 truly minimizing costs would be to not put any mattress in to allow the buyer to put in what they want, as even a cheaper mattress is part of the cost the buyer pays to have to not use it & get their own❗️ The cheap matress to swap after purchase is cutting corners more so IMO & not logical; unless they made a matress an option that you can pay for IF you wanted theirs‼️ 🧐🤑 i.e. just like you said JayCo does with a TV in most all of their models❗️📺👍🏽
I know you feel strongly about that and frankly I don't disagree. I can only say that within my years of experience there'd be a shocking backlash if a MFG offered a no-mattress option.
The prototypical consumer I've come to know wants to go camping because they want to just unplug and relax. They don't generally want to have to DO extra things to get it ready. That's why we've grown into such a large "one stop shop" here.
I 100% agree with your idea. I also feel 100% confident that it would not prove successful. I don't like that answer... but I don't have to like it I guess.
@@JoshtheRVNerd // sadly logic rarely wins out, even when it helps people in the long run... 🤷🏽♂️ 🤦🏽♂️
Man O man! This would really be a toss up. I don't know how long it would take me to choose between the Catalina and Jayco. Can't I design my own Catalayco?
HHAHAHAHA love that :)
Love the comparison videos! Both are great brands but I think the Catalinas are for me.
Thanks for watching Dennis! What Catalina Qualities bring you to that decision?
@@JoshtheRVNerd I tried twice to reply but I'm not sure if it went through...
@@dennissadler739 I'm not seeing anything, but it's no big deal. More curiosity than anything else!
I like the Geo Pro , ha ha ha
HAH! Well.. can't fault you for that one! :)
WHy do you not carry Grand Design?
There are a LOT of RV brands out there. They all have good qualities about them. But we just can't carry *everything* unfortunately.
We've been around a while & have a well established lineup. New additions to our lineup are tricky and need to avoid "infighting" among existing offerings as much as possible.
With brands like Keystone and Jayco already on hand we pretty much have those bases nicely covered. Especially when adding things like the Rockwoods and Coachmens we carry.
I own a jay flight. I looking into trade it for a PUMA. I NEVER SEEN YOU DOING A REVIEW ON A PUMA TRAILER. WHY?
Puma simply isn’t a brand we feature among our new RV lineup. In that class we already carry the top 4 selling trailers (Jay Flight, Cherokee, Catalina, and Wildwood).
We carry a lot but can’t quite carry everything!
11:46 can it do Pumpkin Spice⁉️ 🎃RANGE🧂😜
Can it even dye my eyes to match my gown? Jolly ol' town! th-cam.com/video/X5yQcOi0F58/w-d-xo.html
@@JoshtheRVNerd // 😯😦😧😮😲😵❗️😥😰😨😱
11:10 bootsnpantsandbootsandpants :)
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Ugh, a 35 minute video 👎
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