It was obviously the "pet" part that set Mark off. I have no clue why he said it. If Omni-Man was more calm about the situation, and even acted the tiniest bit sincere, I feel like he could've convinced Mark.
SPOILER (YOU'VE BEEN WARNED) In the comics, there's this thing called the invincible war, or as I like to call it, Crisis of Finite Mark's. There's a lot of alternate marks involved. A lot of marks have actually ended up joining the viltrumite empire, so your theory isn't unlikely. But it's funny that the difference between Invincible becoming a loyal Viltrumite is his dad devaluing his mom. Little things, yknow?
@@simonhailom2477 It pretty much tells Mark that his dad doesnt value his family as Mark thought, and the "I had to be sure" statement just agrees with Mark's speculations. Omni-man chosed the word poorly, maybe he tried to tell mark that he loved his mom but he was gonna outlive her for a huge margin, like humans do with pets. Later in the comics it shows that Omni-man loved her as his couple.
1:42 I think its important for lots of people to note that Omni-Man wasn't 100% lying here. He meant it, he found love and peace with Debbie and Mark. And its this deep, genuine value in lifeforms other than Viltrumites that begins to shake his resolve to the Viltrum empire later in the series.
He also said Viltrumites help around the universe. They really do, but only to help reproduce and grow their empire. Other than that and them being ruthless, he told Mark 45% of the truth.
@@abdullahaboelyas4300 he only said that to his son. So that way both Mark and Debbie won't know the true dark history of viltrum until episode 8, It was quite screwed up when Omni man was trying to make a point about civilization on earth, not to mention calling Debbie a pet which is pure screwed up
1:43 that was actually genuine he didn't want mark to get powers because he was genuinely happy being a family man and having real friends who weren't afraid of him
Also that Nolan was hoping Mark didn’t get powers so that he could have a chance at outliving both him and Debbie before he has to conquer earth for the viltrum empire. Once Mark got his powers Nolan knew the chance for that was gone
I think Omni man was being truthful when he said he was stressed cause Mark has his powers now. He knew this meant he needed push forward with the plan and turn his back on the planet he grew to love.
1:36 this is genuine from Nolan, after watching S2 Episode 4 i can tell this came from the heart, a few twists when he spoke about the guardians but the rest came from a place of sincerity and love.
@@koalachan6029 It's gotta be much more than that. This Mark has compassion for everyone from the start. He must've been raised much better and more Earthly than his variants.
3:30 Such an underrated moment, aided by Yeun's amazing voice acting. For a brief second, Mark wasn't a superhero anymore, just a scared little boy that watched his dad do something horrible.
Such an honorable selfless hero, leaving his home planet to be the sole protector of Earth, meeting a woman he loves and starting a family. Btw I only watch the first minute.
I really hope the show goes into more detail about how traumatic this whole experience was for mark, I feel like the comic kinda brushed past it a bit too fast
Nolan: i do love you & your mother it pains me deeply to know that some day all i'll have left to remember her by is you mark i see your mother's face every time i look at you every time you smile i feel like i want to break down from the inside to know that she's going to be gone from our lives which is not even a blink of an eye in our life span, i wish i could share some of our viltrumite DNA but it's just going to be a curse for her & it's already chaotic enough seeing your friends & family pass away she's been on this planet longer than i have and i wouldn't want her to carry those burdens like i have & unfortunately you will some day..
Give humanity technology centuries ahead, stop war and eliminate hunger? Sounds like the Viltrimites are the solution to all of humanity's problems, but at what cost? How did all the other planets they "Conquerored" turn out?
HE WAS GONNA WAIT UNTIL MARK AND DEBBIE DIED OF OLD AGE UNTIL HE ACTIVATED HIS PLAN BUT WITH MARK BEING A VILTRUMITE HE'LL LIVE ALOOOOOOT LONGER THAN EVEN HIM SO HE JUS DECIDED TO START IT NOW 20 YEARS IN HIS TIME IN 2 WEEKS IN HIS TIME HE'LL OUTLIVE DEBBIE LIKE WE OUTLIVE DOGS OR PETS
Nolan would have gotten mark on his side if he replaced called his mother a pet with: “due to how we age it’s easier to become distant to people in order to reduce the pain of loss”
No actually the main reason the viltrumites conquer planets is to find planets with races that can produce children who are almost viltrumite in every way powers and all. Nolan was sent to earth was to blend in and mate with a human and see if the offspring will inherit their powers, because their race back in viltrum is dwindling to a handful at this point. Conquering planets was one of their main objectives anyway, but the most important one was producing viltrumite children with their powers... when Mark finally got his powers that's when Nolan realised that it was time to make his move.
I love that mark in the comics basically changed the viltrumites from the brutal conquerors they were into the race of heroes that help other species like in the story Nolan told him as a child
if nolan never mentioned Debbie as a pet, mark may have sided with Viltrum. Nolan was making a lot of sense there and it looked like mark was really thinking about it
@@ocboy5163 must be rewriting stuff, since no one was really happy with how the Amber stuff resolved. ie: (They shouldn't have gotten back together whether she was in the right or wrong)
No Thragg wouldn't be standing in line with other soldiers like that, he's their leader he is sitting in his throne his colors of his uniform is red & white and also includes a robe.
If you were in Omni-Man's shoes, how would you tell Mark?
A hint for the new season
Just become an abusive father
It was obviously the "pet" part that set Mark off.
I have no clue why he said it.
If Omni-Man was more calm about the situation, and even acted the tiniest bit sincere, I feel like he could've convinced Mark.
I would make the first story a reality
I wouldn't want to be anything like him at all
I honestly feel like if Nolan didn’t call Mark‘s mom a “pet” he would’ve been more willing to go along with the plan
SPOILER (YOU'VE BEEN WARNED)
In the comics, there's this thing called the invincible war, or as I like to call it, Crisis of Finite Mark's. There's a lot of alternate marks involved. A lot of marks have actually ended up joining the viltrumite empire, so your theory isn't unlikely. But it's funny that the difference between Invincible becoming a loyal Viltrumite is his dad devaluing his mom. Little things, yknow?
@@simonhailom2477 It pretty much tells Mark that his dad doesnt value his family as Mark thought, and the "I had to be sure" statement just agrees with Mark's speculations. Omni-man chosed the word poorly, maybe he tried to tell mark that he loved his mom but he was gonna outlive her for a huge margin, like humans do with pets. Later in the comics it shows that Omni-man loved her as his couple.
Same. That line escalated things.
Honestly, I was even convinced when he said that Viltrum could provide advanced technology to Earth.
@@simonhailom2477 idk if it is a spoiler the show is already so much different then the comic
Cant imagine how terrified mark was when he found out his father wasn't being controlled
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well he kinda was
@@kutsja4671angstrom can’t mind control people in the show. Only comics buddy.
@@Nemenishe means the viltrum empire
@@Nemenis ‘buddy’ 🤓🤓🤓
1:42 I think its important for lots of people to note that Omni-Man wasn't 100% lying here. He meant it, he found love and peace with Debbie and Mark. And its this deep, genuine value in lifeforms other than Viltrumites that begins to shake his resolve to the Viltrum empire later in the series.
He also said Viltrumites help around the universe. They really do, but only to help reproduce and grow their empire. Other than that and them being ruthless, he told Mark 45% of the truth.
I'd like to think that adds more to all the conflict. Internal and external.
True. He loves his pet.
Yep and in the comics he also found love and peace to the new planet he govern. But this time with bugs who can only live for 9months.
You didn't need to add that spoiler at the end
I like how Viltrum is shown bright in the fake story Omni-Man tells, but its dark when he speaks the truth about it.
huh? looks pretty bright in both portrayals.
@@theweeklydaily2024 focus on Viltrum at 0:29 and look at how bright it looks, while it looks dark at 4:00.
ohh I see what you mean. you mean the off planet view. yea, you’re right. I was looking at the light on the planet itself.
He didn't mention the scourge virus. You would arguably feel a little bad for the viltrumites after hearing about that.
@@abdullahaboelyas4300 he only said that to his son. So that way both Mark and Debbie won't know the true dark history of viltrum until episode 8, It was quite screwed up when Omni man was trying to make a point about civilization on earth, not to mention calling Debbie a pet which is pure screwed up
1:43 that was actually genuine he didn't want mark to get powers because he was genuinely happy being a family man and having real friends who weren't afraid of him
Also that Nolan was hoping Mark didn’t get powers so that he could have a chance at outliving both him and Debbie before he has to conquer earth for the viltrum empire. Once Mark got his powers Nolan knew the chance for that was gone
0:54 Notice that Nolan said SOLE protector, foreshadowing his plan to murder the Guardians to weaken Earth.
Or he could've meant that he was the only one who could truly protect Earth among those who were there.
I think he just meant "sole protector" as in he was the only Viltrumite sent to Earth
Can a flashback foreshadow an event that happened before the flashback but after the event shown in the flashback?
Sol can also mean the shortened name of our system.
Solar system.
I think Omni man was being truthful when he said he was stressed cause Mark has his powers now. He knew this meant he needed push forward with the plan and turn his back on the planet he grew to love.
5:55 Yo Steven Yeun that was some phenomenal voice acting, could hear the heartbreak
1:36 this is genuine from Nolan, after watching S2 Episode 4 i can tell this came from the heart, a few twists when he spoke about the guardians but the rest came from a place of sincerity and love.
7:04, the moment Omni Man screwed everything.
If he didnt say "pet" mark probably would have teamed up with omni man...
@@koalachan6029what about mark’s character suggests this
@@ababuinjkjk8uipjmmost alternate marks join omni man
@ababuinjkjk8uipjm he's illiterate
@@koalachan6029 It's gotta be much more than that. This Mark has compassion for everyone from the start. He must've been raised much better and more Earthly than his variants.
Mark we’re not kryptonians we’re daxamites with saiyan mindset also our power comes from our moustaches
lol
Nice
Difference being daxamites are vulnerable to lead instead of kryptonite
There like saiyan with a brain
Omni man truly cares about her, even more then about invincible, you can see how expressive he is around them
True, he loves his pet very much
3:30 Such an underrated moment, aided by Yeun's amazing voice acting. For a brief second, Mark wasn't a superhero anymore, just a scared little boy that watched his dad do something horrible.
Such an honorable selfless hero, leaving his home planet to be the sole protector of Earth, meeting a woman he loves and starting a family.
Btw I only watch the first minute.
yup
Bro revisiting this scene after season 2 is more wildly heartbroken now
Subhuman
He wasn’t lying, he was just distorting the truth.
"What I said was true, from a certain point of view"
That’s still lying
Imagine if mark said yes to Omni man
Angstrom Levy will be in Season 2 and from there we might see the alternate Marks
@@blastermaster5039Well, yeah
Well in the other universe... He did
Then I guess they would change the title card to CONVINCIBLE 😂
2:37 "Just don't want him to make a choice he'll regret" like not joining his dad?
I really hope the show goes into more detail about how traumatic this whole experience was for mark, I feel like the comic kinda brushed past it a bit too fast
I honestly would like to see a version where what Nolan said was true. It would be cool.
Nolan: i do love you & your mother it pains me deeply to know that some day all i'll have left to remember her by is you mark i see your mother's face every time i look at you every time you smile i feel like i want to break down from the inside to know that she's going to be gone from our lives which is not even a blink of an eye in our life span, i wish i could share some of our viltrumite DNA but it's just going to be a curse for her & it's already chaotic enough seeing your friends & family pass away she's been on this planet longer than i have and i wouldn't want her to carry those burdens like i have & unfortunately you will some day..
His dad broke his heart
And his face
@@kenthefele113lmao
I mean, it’s not like he lied about everything.
Give humanity technology centuries ahead, stop war and eliminate hunger? Sounds like the Viltrimites are the solution to all of humanity's problems, but at what cost? How did all the other planets they "Conquerored" turn out?
Relax bruh it’s a cartoon not a news channel
Could you imagine Lucan or Kregg seeing Nolan say “I’m sorry” to Debbie?
They would knock it at first until they tried having an "Earth pet" for themselves.
HE WAS GONNA WAIT UNTIL MARK AND DEBBIE DIED OF OLD AGE UNTIL HE ACTIVATED HIS PLAN BUT WITH MARK BEING A VILTRUMITE HE'LL LIVE ALOOOOOOT LONGER THAN EVEN HIM SO HE JUS DECIDED TO START IT NOW 20 YEARS IN HIS TIME IN 2 WEEKS IN HIS TIME HE'LL OUTLIVE DEBBIE LIKE WE OUTLIVE DOGS OR PETS
Nolan would have gotten mark on his side if he replaced called his mother a pet with: “due to how we age it’s easier to become distant to people in order to reduce the pain of loss”
He never planned to have a family at all. This is such a hint about the future plot now that I think about it.
No actually the main reason the viltrumites conquer planets is to find planets with races that can produce children who are almost viltrumite in every way powers and all. Nolan was sent to earth was to blend in and mate with a human and see if the offspring will inherit their powers, because their race back in viltrum is dwindling to a handful at this point.
Conquering planets was one of their main objectives anyway, but the most important one was producing viltrumite children with their powers... when Mark finally got his powers that's when Nolan realised that it was time to make his move.
I just realized that if Omni man didn’t tell mark what he thinks of his mother, mark would’ve joined him
I love that mark in the comics basically changed the viltrumites from the brutal conquerors they were into the race of heroes that help other species like in the story Nolan told him as a child
ı would say "your mom is a pet to me" for sure dude. otherwise mark could join omniman
Cool backstory.
Omniman is the Walter White of superheroes.
He's like, the opposite of Walter White
@@mercury2157 how
Can't wait to see the Viltrum Empire in the coming season.
millions of miles lol no.well technically yes but its more like trillions of miles.
its easier for baby brain to understand.
also more like quadrillions
How are you gonna get my hopes up like this? I’m only subscribed to y’all so I don’t miss the season 2 trailer
At the end, mark looks almost convinced but nolan don't know how to handle it
After he called her mum pet
Calling her pet was the big mistake, else he would've got convinced to join them.
Zn amazing character.
Based
I think he would have joined if he didn’t say the bit with his mom
Prob the one alternate that called debbie a pet 😂 🤔
Wife : "And you can't keep it up in the bedroom !"
if nolan never mentioned Debbie as a pet, mark may have sided with Viltrum. Nolan was making a lot of sense there and it looked like mark was really thinking about it
0:49 anissa wow
I honestly think mark would've joined his dad in the empire if he didn't say his mom was a pet, that was the stupidest thing nolan could've said
I wanna be a Viltrumite
Debbie is really lucky she hasn't met another viltrumite
What about invenciball season 2
I am also waiting for da vincibowl 2.
We are all waiting for invencisuperbowl 2
IMDb says not till 2023
New trailer came out. It will happen in late 202e
Season 2 trailer
According to Steven Yeun, they apparently haven’t started yet. It may be a little while.
@@ocboy5163 must be rewriting stuff, since no one was really happy with how the Amber stuff resolved.
ie: (They shouldn't have gotten back together whether she was in the right or wrong)
Even omni man is a better dad than homlander kinda........
Jeeeesh must be annoying having super powers like that and then getting pestered by some earthlings. 😭
2:13
2:17
Guys look to the right at 5:07 is that thragg?
No Thragg wouldn't be standing in line with other soldiers like that, he's their leader he is sitting in his throne his colors of his uniform is red & white and also includes a robe.
Where tf is season 2 trailer
Ikr
Patience dude its only been like a year chill
Omni man vs zx tole
7:30
He didnt break it down fortnite style
They ruined their own chances to grow their empire by cutting the population in half lol
The weak were the ones who didn't agree with conquering planets, so they were removed for being objective.
#Releaseseason2
Not gonna lie, if my Dad wanted me to enslave the planet then I'd do it. Peace is necessary lol
"yeah, boss? yeah its him. i foundem"
His son was raised to be a beta compared to his people, how can Omni possible think he can convince his son?
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Dislike ...due ro ..half info ...
What?
w h a t
Don't understand this cartoon