He's already an overcomer he's already forgiven.. Would you mean he's struggling with sin he believes in Jesus Christ.. his sins are covered... Christ justified us .. He said it is finished!!! All of you people are carrying The yoke around your neck... Jesus fulfilled the law.. He was the law unto himself... He was the end of the law.. You are an error!!!!@ I pray the Holy Spirit reveals to you...
@@againstthegrainmichelelee9781you know him personally what if he keeps drinking and getting drunk or watch’s adult film would you say he is struggling with sin? How is he an over comer?
Just because Johnny got famous over a year ago does not mean that he is a 'babe" in Christ, blowing up on social media does not show your personal relationship with God. If you actually listened to his testimony, He received salvation in 2015. He stayed at his church for a year with his Pastor/ mentor, then went to a completely different country to be a missionary for a year. You don't know his story, did not even listen to his bible study in full. Everything that Johnny preaches about is from the word of God, the bible. Everything he says has a scripture. You have 2 ears and 1 mouth but still you choose to talk more than you listen. Reading the comments under your post I notice that people assume that asking for forgiveness equals repentance. You can ask for forgiveness and not have a heart of repentance. People do it all time without even realizing it. So many Christians became Christians out of fear of going to Hell, that they try to keep the Law themselves and focused on their own works than actually building a relationship with God and allowing Him to lead your life. If God is leading your life, you automatically sin less because you are focused on God and His word. Struggling to keeping the Law and failing is what is going to lead you to Jesus and open your heart to receiving true salvation through grace. But many people deceive people that they are keeping the law and asking for forgiveness. The reason why Jesus was baptized was to transfer to sins of the world on Him. That is why he had to pay the price for our sins through death. Jesus was perfect, the gruesome torture and death he went through was not for the sins of that time period but of the WORLD. including your past, present, and future sins. Asking for forgiveness is the same as saying that what Jesus went through wasn't enough to wash this sin and say he should go back on the cross once more. I will say it again ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS IS NOT TRUE REPENTANCE. There are so many scriptures and parables that shows the heart of man being evil, prideful, arrogant and the heart of God which is the opposite. Finally, we have someone that does not preach on the surface level also I want to add that Johnny was not the one that came up with these teachings, my Pastor preaches the same thing, Check out Martin Luther, DL Moody. The pastors that stand for scripture only. They have the same teaching. I'm sorry to say but this surface level preaching and preaching what you feel should be right is unfortunately sending people astray. So many Christians do not know if they are going to Heaven and in the bible clearly states that the righteous will go to Heaven. But because you want to look humble, You won't ever say you are righteous, you disregard the words of God. The word of God that never lies, that my friend is human righteousness, arrogance that you choose to believe what you feel or your thought over the word of God. There are so many scriptures about the LAW and the real reason why it was created. If people could go Heaven by the Law, God wouldn't need to send our Saviour Jesus. Everything in the bible is connected. The reason I can say these things is because I have been there before, I have failed trying to keep the Law and that was my biggest burden when I was following the generic teaching of the world . I would ask for forgiveness thinking that I am repenting, I wanted to make myself perfect before going to God in prayer. living spiritual life like that made being a Christian miserable and I gave up. I accidentally went to a dance performance event and then a pastor came and preached the true gospel for 30 mins and I received salvation. God allowed for me to go through that to break the arrogance and self-righteousness for me to hear and accept the Gospel. Since then, I have been guided by the church, my pastors, and pastors wives. This didnt happen over night, whenever my flesh arises, i tell my pastor, church sisters etc and they shift my focus back to the word of God.
I been there before,Then God shows me the real truth ,which set me free from law ,condemnation and sin! What Jesus did on the cross is the only way out! People think they can fight sin fight satan by keeping the law, I tried ,which leave me like hell on earth! Law are not for us to keep, they are lead us to Jesus,it is written in the Bible!
Before the Christian TH-camrs got on him I saw for myself on live saying he believes that the Lord do not speak to us in dreams and signs and all things above. I said WOW! That took a turn. He needs disciple ship, he needs guidance. You do realize that being a certian age in the spirit isn't so much determine by how long you've been saved, but if that your actually growing. lm praying for him for sure. He just needs real guidance and be true that he might've been wrong on his teaching. All of us have been there in some way. I want to say something, and I don't want you to take it the wrong way. I did not read your full comment, but the way you wrote all that defending Johnny as if Marcus just cursed him or something I would have to say you may have grown attachment to him. Watch out for the spirit of offensive. Please don't take what I'm saying in a wrong way. Peace and blessings
@@bjoneswhite306 thank you sister, I know nobody got 100 percent right about God, that’s why we are growing, and I do believe and knows that god speaks us through dream and visions, I know jonnny Chang got this point wrong, but we all need grace to grow, we can not call someone false teacher just because he got one or two things wrong about God, because only Jesus can 100percent knows God , we all on a journey to learn and know more about him. besides that point Jonny got wrong, he did have some amazing testimony and his teachings about what is sin and how to overcome it is also amazing, I believe totally Holy Spirit leading him and not the religion church who always tell you to repent and never tell you how!
@ how are you going to come to a conclusion on what you think about me and talking about me being being attached to him💀 if you haven’t even read my comment. Is that making any sense to you. The unknown arrogance and wanting to diagnose people who have different beliefs than you do is crazy. You cannot change the truth no matter what you think or feel. I am a born again Christian and knew of this before I knew who Johnny Chang was. You come on here and make up things based on what you feel. Not everything that goes on in your head, you should believe. Also I didn’t take offense because your thoughts and opinion aren’t facts. You believe that God in this day and age talks to you in dreams and based on scripture some people don’t in this current time. The latter being me, because you believe what I don’t I can also say you need discipleship as well and need guidance. Anyways you will know them by their fruits. If your way is the truth you don’t need to come on the internet and diagnose people from what you think or feel. If what you believe is the truth pray for people to come to know the truth and move on. Drop a scripture and go. I don’t want to hear your thoughts or opinions, if you’re not coming with scripture. Then forget it, as your comment will serve no purpose.
I truly believe a lot these people are starting ministries out of their own will. God has not called a lot of these people on TH-cam to start ministries and that’s why so much confusion is going around you have to be called to do something like ministry.
I thought people realized that way before now! I have always thought that especially the last few years. It's like people either use it as a grift to make money and or restore their image or reputation. Or they genuinely really have the right intentions and heart for it, but lack the understanding that they need to grow and mature in faith and knowledge of the scriptures well 1st. It's ok to share testimonies and experiences that can describe the lord working in someone's life and goodness. But trying to teach and preach Is NOT for everyone but those truly called by God to do so and to even begin you must have the holy spirit and anointing to.
I was called to do videos on tiktok. Lol I straight avoided it for a year. But I do it to help people the way some other Christian influences helped me. Just sharing my testimony, my conversations with God, sharing words he gives me that I share with others because maybe it's for someone else. He has me praying and reading scripture all the time. I love to do it for him, I'd do anything to get in our Father's presence ❤
I truly believe that you should seek the Lord in prayer and reach out to Johnny directly instead of first deciding to make videos about him. The Bible says that we should go to the person yourself, and then to bring a few witnesses and then involve the church. Blasting anyone on social media instead of going to them isn’t showcasing the love of God or his order. I’m not saying he’s right or wrong, I’m saying I don’t believe this is the way God wants his believers to behave.
This is the wrong way to go about this man. Your heart is not in the right place and God can see that. Regardless of who is right or wrong acknowledging it in this way is wrong. As fellow Christians before there is an assumption made there should be as collaborations. When 2 or 3 of us are together our prayers are heard. As a true Christian your mission is to bring people closer to God not confuse them. Imagine people new in there faith trying to find a strong leader to guide them and they see your video putting a minister down? That will turn people away not drive them towards Jesus. Seeing the lack of empathy, compassion and respect between Christians is not what Jesus wants. If this guy is your enemy which clearly it sounds like he is God calls you to love him deeply so why don’t you call him? Collaborate and support eachother and find out where you guys can come together to bring more people to Christ. This is a shame that people who claim to be followers of Christ ultimately confuse and turn the minds of new believers. You’re making a mistake. At least Johnny hasn’t made any dis videos.
Throwing my two cents in here. I found that Johnny has actually led me to a lot of confusion. I do want to preface this by saying I believe he is a follower of Christ, and he loves the Lord. I found what he has said to be against David asking for forgiveness in the Psalms (I can't remember the exact verse, so please forgive me), and Jesus saying "forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors." Alongside a couple other places. Not only that, but when I decided to follow what Johnny said I felt very convicted within my prayer, and was confused. That's my personal story though
I honestly think this video is prime example of what’s wrong with the Christian community(and I like your channel btw). I don’t think Johnny is saying to continually walk in the dark I think he’s saying is: when you focus on your relationship with God and you repent by coming into agreement with what God sees as good/bad (not by your own works aka turning from sin), you will naturally, automatically, start sinning less because you are growing closer to God. I honestly think you guys actually sat down and talked to each other you wouldn’t disagree with each other. I think you’re disagreeing with something he doesn’t even believe. I could be wrong but we need to stop being so quick to be hyper critical of fellow believers and start building up the body of Christ to sharpen each other. You haven’t even talked to this dude, why do you feel qualified to critique his position when it sounds like you’re not even interpreting his point correctly? (in my opinion)
Thank you for pointing this out. Johnny is not wrong with that word meaning “homologeo.” I agree with you. It seems like Johnny is emphasizing the believers position in Christ, and having that position determine your behavior, not your behavior determining your position. I agree with you. We should be discussing things in charity, in the love of Christ. Unfortunately, I think this is a meat teaching, and many who still want the milk of the law are going to have a tough time with it. It reminds me of Ishmael (born of the bond woman), persecuting Isaac (born of the promise through Sarah).
@@Cgoodall I watched the rest of the video in context behind what Johnny is saying about how we’re forgiven. He saying basically is that we’re not forgiven and made right in God’s eyes by continuously repenting or saying I’m sorry but by genuine, saving faith we’re completely cleansed by the blood of Jesus passed present future sins. Marcus took a small clip that he saw out of a 13 minute video if I’m correct and decided to respond
Marcus you also took this video completely out of context because at the very end of the video he says”and this is how we’re forgiven” the point of his video was to show people is that we’re not forgiven for our past present future sins by just simply confessing or saying I’m sorry what he saying is that when we truly confess that we are sinners by nature that we are messed up and that we need Christ as our personal sin bearer the moment we receive Christ as our Lord and Savior, we are forgiven of all sin past present and future. This does not mean that we should not repent when we fall short, but this means is that we no longer have to continuously repent over and over and over to be righteous or justified in God’s eyes because we were justified and made righteous when we came by faith.
“For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.” Ephesians 2:8-9 NKJV I don’t know why people overlook this verse…they think accept Jesus AND obey will get them into heaven…that’s not why Jesus said “it is finished” 😢
I don't trust what your saying because You just want clicks you ain't proving anything stop using Johnny face on your videos all you do is going after people who have more like then you do
Have you ever listened to his full Bible studies? He actually goes over a lot of the same scriptures you mentioned, however, his explanations comes from the word. Not “I think”, “I feel”, “I don’t like”, “I don’t think”… “in my opinion”…it’s ironic…a recent one I watched, he actually taught on all these exact same scriptures, crossed referenced with multiple verses, used the Greek and Hebrew meanings, read it and explained contextually…and I don’t remember any of his opinions being mentioned but guess what I do remember? I remember the scriptures. Hmm. This sounds like a lot of opinions and feelings to me, not the word.
@@kelsikreid 🤞 Very factual fam agree with you fully , Only thing im uncertain is about what he said about the dreams and visions though. But when I listen to his full live stream and when he truly dissects questions and those stuff taken out of context , he really does it very well. My fav Gospel preacher along with KP Serves. 💯
Marcus I’m legit praying for you that you stop throwing stones from the glass house you’re living in. False prophecies, false teachings, jumping into other people’s business when it had nothing to do with you, lying on God etc.. Marcus please let this stuff go man. I’m hoping for you to continue to come into the truth, but you keep trying to get the speck out of others eyes when there’s a tree log in yours. Marcus from the bottom of my heart I mean this, please seek where you can grow at and where you fall short at and then let the Holy Spirit correct you and help you. This is getting out of hand🙏🏾💔
I wish you would let his video play so the viewers can form their own opinion before you form their opinion for what he said by cutting into the clip you want us to see...I still did not hear the full scope of what he was saying to form the opinion you're selling.... maybe I have to watch his video to see what he actually said.
I believe that Johnny is teaching people to acknowledge their sinful nature and live your life reading the word. Through the word, you will be changed not through your own will, but through his. He will strengthen us, give us all that we need.
I try so many times to see when Marcus and so many others are actually gonna grow spiritually and begin to understand God's Word on a much deeper level but it just doesn't seem to be happening. All this surface level theology debate and understanding is what is robbing so many Christians of a true in depth relationship with Jesus. I don't even have to watch the whole clip of what Johnny is talking about and I understood it completely as is if the Holy Spirit was teaching Himself. If you truly think what Johnny was saying led you to the conclusion that he is saying its ok to continue to sin and live in darkness then I already know your level of spiritual understanding. Let me help by the grace of the Holy Spirit. Johnny is speaking on the same conclusion our brother in Christ the Apostle Paul came to when he said for it is no longer I who do it but the sin that dwells within me. (Romans 7:17) Please body of Christ reread Romans 7 and ask the Holy Spirit to truly open your eyes to what the Apostle Paul is truly saying here. What Johnny is saying is acknowledging your sinful nature within your heart is what gets you in right standing with God and at that moment you have given your heart to Jesus. At that point now you have a pliable heart God can work with and as long as you remain in Him you begin to sin less and less. God knowing that your flesh is weak that when you do stumble, Grace abounds more and all He sees is the finished work Jesus did on the cross for all our sins past, present, and future. The second part is what he is saying is dangerous is that if you just believe in the works of confession but don't have true repentance (acknowledgement), then you get caught up in a cycle of sin confession sin confession leading you to believe you can handle sin on your own just cause you confess it. Therefore you keep pushing the boundaries because you think confession is covering you. All the while digging yourself deeper and deeper into sin not realizing that Jesus is the only way to get out. PLEASE Body of Christ, STOP this surface level banter and dig deeper into your spiritual growth with God. We are going to need it as we get closer to Jesus coming back to renew. It's closer than you think... Lord Jesus I pray that you open your peoples eyes and hearts to true revelation and spiritual understanding of You as we draw closer to You... Amen
Romans 6:1 ESV [1] What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it. Grace is abounding to those who have a harth of repentance. He/she who sins and falls into the sin, needs to confess/repent from their sin everytime when they sin, simple as that. When you sin then is god automatically going to remove that sin without you confessing/repenting on it? No....1 john 1:9 tells us that "if" we confess he is faithfull to forgive our sin's and he says over there "if" so the choise is ours....let's look into the context of that 1 john 1....the first chapter is about not living in a sin at all and the whole letter has been sent to chiristins and not to the unbealivers. 1 john 2:1 tells us bealivers that if we sin then we will have our advocate wich is chirist with his faithfullness on forgivness, but after the forgivness of his then we will have his blood covering us from a wrath and judgment of god (1 john 1:9). Like for example when peter committed a sin by denying the lord ("if you deny me before men i will deny you before father" so this means that when we sin that protection wich is his blood will be removed and also it means that he will not defend us)peter repented from it immediately....if peter would have used johny chang understament then he would have said that "well i conffessed/repented once already so i don't have to confess/repent anymore, cuz i'm already saved and grace abounds even more when i sin (your undesranding)
That is exactly what the GOSPEL OF GRACE is. The Apostle Paul is preaching in the new testament. He is preaching the Gospel of Grace and a few people or Christians know about this, because they are still bound to the "law" - which can not make us holy because nobody can keep the law, if you break one law, then you are guilty of all, the very reason why grace came in the person of JESUS CHRIST.
He smeared him, felt conviction because he popped off on someone who actually preaches the gospel and then sent him a dm to back peddle. This dude exalts himself and visions and dreams while Johnny preaches the gospel (Jesus Christ).
Brother stay in your lane you don’t even know what your talking about focus on the gospel and reach your people threw the gospel why you concerning yourself on someone that you haven’t even therally listen to, listening to clips and going off on a tantrum what you doing is gossip breaking commandments sounds like satan trembling
@@nathanrota4555 you will have to really understand Hebrews and Galatians. Your belief system sounds good and holy, but it's actually blasphemous against Christ. I encourage you to keep reading Hebrews and Galatians untill God gives you the understanding.
I am so glad I have been delivered from this way of thinking. I used to be so self critical it was like I couldn't do anything right and I felt God was continually disappointed with me. We can sin and don't even know it..The Bible says if you do something not in faith it is sin... I used to see myself as so dirty in the eyes of God. Knowing that I was forgiven once and for all past, present, and future sin destroyed the grip sin had on me. I am free from sin not free to sin!
I encourage you to watch the entire video and not just a clip Mr. Rogers. Johnny Chang does NOT teach to continue to Sin and that its “ok you are still saved” and if you watched his video in its entirety you would know that. But making a whole video without the full facts is unreasonable and premature. If it matters to you that much you would watch the full video otherwise you are just creating unnecessary hostility in the christian community. lets be quick to listen and slow to speak.
If a believer suddenly dies right as they are in the middle of stealing a paper clip from the pastors office… is that person going to heaven or are they going to hell? 1. If you say heaven then you believe in “once for all forgiveness” for those who are in Christ. 2. If you say hell then you don’t believe in God’s grace and love to cover a multitude of sins and you are 100% “dependent on your ability” to confess for every sin you ever commit. Under this system I hope you don’t forget one sin and just saying “forgive me for anything I may have done against you” doesn’t work as that isn’t true repentance of your sin. 3. If you don’t know if you are going to heaven or hell then it’s sad that you are so confused about God’s love and mercy for His children… 🙏🙏🙏
Johnny believes in “once for all forgiveness” instead of little by little forgiveness… “For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.” Hebrews 10:14 NIV
And to add to that Hebrews 10:11-18 KJV [11] And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: [12] but this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; [13] from henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. [14] For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. [15] Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, [16] This is the covenant that I will make with them After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, And in their minds will I write them; [17] And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. [18] Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. bible.com/bible/1/heb.10.11-18.KJV
That is not the context of hebrews 10:26 sir. He’s referring to the people who were still thinking works and sacrifices could save them and not believing in the blood of Christ only
That's what I was explaining.. Hebrews is commonly taught the wrong way in many churches today.. Especially mainstream churches. Professing believers must begin to read for themselves; and not just 15mins once a week. Must deep dive into the word of God, and pray for guidance of the Holy Spirit, and stop trying to conclude things from your own understanding.
An elder or someone who knows the word very well needs to have a sit down with him and rebuke him in person. The bible says open rebuke is better than love carefully concealed. I hope he isn't offended by a brother in Christ trying to correct or help him. I hope he reaches out to Marcus
That's the issue with social media. Anyone can get on a platform and say anything!! No one is there to hold you accountable. I stopped listening to social media teachers and got in the word myself!!!! However, I still follow a few, same ones from day 1
What happened to Matthew 18:15-17 is to “go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. But you wanna be on social media putting your mouth on people ! If you are half right you are all wrong ! I knew I never listened to you for a reason ! God have Mercy on you ! 🕊️
He never defended him he just keeps making videos doesn’t talk to Johnny no breaking bread no iron sharpening iron just feelings and I think he’s this and I don’t know this and makes a video to get amens no gospel just trust your visions and dreams
@ilonaeskolin8443 Have you been seeing all of this nonsense Mr. Rogers has been inserting himself in? All of his false prophecies? He keeps saying that God told him to do something, but there is no good fruit coming from it. Keep your eyes on Jesus, not Marcus.
If you don’t want to hear that’s all you gotta say because he explains everything so deep and clear if you think he’s wrong just pray for him or talk to him.
No. He's explaining wrong. Just because it sounds deep doesn't mean it is. He's using fancy words and his own understanding. He's working for the devil if he's not explaining the Bible properly. That's not right and needs to be called out.
I have not come away from a teaching of his feeling whole or edified by what he preaches. He always inserts "You understand?" without ever having elucidated anything. I have asked him about what his thoughts are on scripture that refutes his claims against the Gifts of the Spirit both in his chat and his discord and my questions got ignored or deleted. He is operating on pride on par of a pharisee's spirit in boasting on having read the Bible so many times, in my estimation. He still has high places in his heart that he has yet to tear down.
@@Daughterofthe_King something won’t sound deep of it isn’t and the words he uses are the words he learns from Hebrew and Greek he explains it all not just on his opinion but on the word. But not everyone is willing to hear so I get it.
@@GaiaGuy7191 I watch to and he explains but not everyone wants to hear how he explains it they just spam him so I don’t blame him for deleting when someone isn’t willing to understand and is just there to criticize.
Pastor Marcus is 💯 in the Bible! My favorite scripture is: Workout your own salvation with fear and trembling because l understand that we can play ourselves if we don’t repent and just do it the Lords way!
@@VikkiCarr-n8t work out your own salvation with fear in trembling is not for you to work, read the next verse to see who does the work, God is not a spirit of fear this would contradict scripture aye aye aye
@ l know what the scripture means. You know the letter kills so this is really about living a spiritual life….. l just was quoting my favorite scripture and agreeing with Marcus. Stop trying to be a scholar because earthly intelligence is foolishness to God.
@@VikkiCarr-n8t I’m not tryna argue with you my friend but whatever you say. I hope you have a good night . You assumed I was being argumentative because you felt as though what I was saying was attacking you and it wasn’t.
That goes to show he's either a babe in God or not one at AI because iron sharpens iron and His aren't prideful, but humble u der God and always humble TY examine themselves to make sure their sound what's right in the eyes of God. We're so used to listening to God teach and correcting us we at the least will listen until we know it's a direct contradiction to God.
@@ProphetGreg94 I would block you too🤷♂️, it’s so weird that you are quick to make videos on other people. If your page is for the true gospel then preach what you’re preaching and move on. If I know the truth I wont argue with someone who doesn’t. Believe what you believe only God can change someone’s heart.
When I first heard Johnny and his testimony, I was excited about his conversion and his experience. But when I heard him teaching on a live stream for the first time, I saw that he was not rightly dividing the word of truth. I commented on it in the live comments in that live stream. I hope he gets it straight for everyone's sake. Hopefully, someone he respects can bring correction. Never want to lead God's children astray...
Also Marcus is wrong about Joel and acts. 3 Johnny is not a cessationist , Joel is quoted in acts 2:17-21 which tells us that when God pours his spirit upon people the sun will be turned black, the moon will be turned red and black acts 2:17-21 is expounded upon within each other. A lot of you guys hate Johnny chang because people take videos out of context instead of sitting in on his lives and learning from him when he teaches straight of scripture. God bless you all.
“Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.” Acts 7:51 KJV After generation after generation they still reject Holy Spirit. They reject the supernatural of the Living God
Pastor Marcus Rogers...you are such an awesome teacher!!!! ❤️ ❤️ ❤I really felt this and I have been telling some of my family members for a long time that one saved is not always saved. I even gave them the scripture Hebrews 10:26 as well.
“For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.” Ephesians 2:8-9 NKJV
@@TrevorLV702 It is written: "Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?" James 2:17-20. Works (actions/fruits) is a byproduct of faith.
@ correct, and dead works are you trying to work your way into heaven without fully trusting in God’s sacrifice. Jesus said “I AM the way to the Father”
@@ilonaeskolin8443 correct, and dead works are you trying to work your way into heaven without fully trusting in God’s sacrifice. Jesus said “I AM the way to the Father”
“Knowing” the truth doesn’t mean you are saved. The devil knows the truth. Being saved means believing in the truth. Once “truly saved” always saved! I disagree with you here, Marcus.
Yeah if you want it to be complete ! If you stay the course he’ll do his part and complete the work! That’s not an end all be all scripture that suggest you can’t walk away from God if you choose not to! Once saved always saved goes against so much scripture that testifies that that isn’t true at all. Godbless
@ You’re right the topic is complex. It’s not contradictory though it’s just about understanding. Pray for the truth to be revealed, that applies to us all. Godbless
@ilonaeskolin8443 y'all don't even know. 4 years ago I willfully walked away from God and into the worst sin of my life. For nearly 2 years I walked away from Him. Guess what? He chased me back down and restored me. That's the kind of love that never gives up and never lets go
God calls us to live a repentive lifestyle BECAUSE we sin daily...😢 praying for him to learn better and know better. There seems to be that he has a hardened heart still which is why this is his theology. I pray for deliverance in his prideful nature and I pray that he realizes God is unfathomable truly and if he ever reads this, "bro, I'd recommend you read job 38-41 and hear the Father humble you"🙏🏼
Johnny does not teach to sin wilfully, he actually says to run from it 🤦🏻♀️ The lady who committed adultery experienced the grace and mercy of God so when Jesus said go and sin no more she will have done that, as she received his love . If we truly receive his love we will not go out and commit sinful acts because we want to. No one is saying that. But Jesus Christ literally did finish it all on the cross, we can not do ANYTHING to be saved but truly believe in him. Good works come from being in the vine
I 100% agree I watched your previous video on Johnny and I been praying for him because he has still been going on live streams arguing with comments about the dream and visions still claiming that god doesn’t speak through dream and visions.Got very emotional.we need to pray for him.🙏also to add I have been praying for all these “Christian” people to get exposed for fake teaching, crazy and mind blowing 🙏✝️Thank the lord!
He wants to get into the Greek but is misinterpreting and mistranslating the meaning. Repentance comes from metanoia which means to change your mind and turn away. If repentance was a one time thing we would only change our mind and turn away from sin once. “Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.” Romans 12:2
@@Colbychristie you do not know what you're talking about. You should all be in his Bible Study to see it for yourself the exact referrencies and the correct approach to his teaching. Only spitting out unrealness without even have studied what is that, firstly and for more one who is preoccupied with God and the God's Word wouldn't find themselves being out here throwing with dirt onto others. So far them Pharisees are thinking they are better. God's way is always God's way, so you can spit all you want, God sees you.
What’s crazy is looking at your channel most your videos is talking about other people vs Johnny Chang stays focused on Jesus and the Bible. Studying the Bible verse by verse in deep context. He doesn’t even need to be talking down on others to stay relevant. I suggest you take the time to actually sit in on one of his Bible studies instead of pulling clips from “shorts” I feel like you are hating on Johnny and that’s alright cuz they hated on Jesus first.
Marcus a bold man that calls out those who could be misleading others. Whether its for views or he genuinely cares for Gods sheep is between him and God.
There's nothing about what Marcus has said that suggests he's hateful towards Johnny. From my understanding, Marcus, being convicted in his faith, sees a fellow christian who he seeks to reconcile to the best of his ability but God's word comes first. As followers of Christ, we ought to hold each other accountable and thats what's happening. So what if his videos are talking about other people, if its in the name of upholding the truth of God's Word in our lives, what's wrong with that? Maybe Marcus may have misinterpreted him and maybe Johnny meant something different, but that doesnt mean he cant express his opinion. Marcus himself considered he might be wrong.
Just read Gods Word and know God says what He means and means what it says! Do not listen to every voice! Know the voice of God and ask Him. He will answer if you ask with sincerity and want understanding! This is once saved always save doctrine please please do not believe this! We have to live a life of repentance and obedience.
I got the feeling that you are misinterpreting what Johnny talks about. You really should watch the long term content and make the judgement after that cause you have a large following and spreading false information about someone is not profitable for the kingdom of God.
"I have to understand i cant just play around in God's face." Thaaank you Marcus. I was too confused after reading that title of chnag's video (last week?). It rlly shook me, thnx fr bringing me back to reading th scripture in context. I rlly understand your concerns Marcus related to th followers of chang, he may deceive them all into denying God's truth. So thank you fpr your obedience to God's calling upon you.
I am so glad you are calling this guy out. Nicely i may add. He is straight up wrong breaking these verses down lead by what because it's not the holy spirit. I feel it's a spirit of straight up confusion to even say all this koni greek stuff to make it even more confusing. This guys been on my feed and I listened for a bit but stopped because he is not right and im glad i know. Alot of people don't he's wrong if you read comments. I repent daily and I know that is in scripture somewhere.
I still watch him, luckily I have Holy Spirit discernment and to differentiate between what is not Holy and what is. I'd rather see Marcus have a conversation behind closed doors with Johnny if he agreed to and even maybe debate it for the growth of all of us.
Yes repenting has to be constant. Not a 1 time thing. It would be like saying once we repent, we will never sin again. And of course we know that is not true. We will sin until the day we die, hence repentance needs to be happening until the day we die, die down here that is. God bless you
@@cxtown5668 yeah I actually spoke to Chang. He said God only speaks through the Bible. When I asked him has he ever heard Gods voice he said a smart butt response. He said “yeah when I open the Bible app and listen to it… in the beginning was the word” and started laughing. I was so devastatingly sad for him. Gods audible voice is the most calming and beautiful thing I have ever heard and he doesn’t even believe in it so much so that he mocks it. So if he thinks God only speaks through the Bible than he isn’t being led by the spirit literally ever. He’s being lead by demons of the flesh or both.
@@ChristMadeJAG Could you have a fulfilling Christian life if all you have is the scriptures and do not hear God audibly? I believe that reading the word of God gives the same peace and calm as you have described. I have never heard God audibly but I have experienced the Holy Spirit giving me thoughts about things and it always aligned with the written word.
I've attended his Bible studies and heard him express similar to what you agree on, but I just think you're misunderstanding him. It would be great to see you both discuss this topic. God bless
Genesis 4:7 If you do well, will not your countenance be lifted up? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door; and its desire is for you, but you must master it.”
That was actually really good. I agree with him on the acknowledging part. This sits true to me. What he said about confessing leading you to hell, I dont know about that. But I do agree with this acknowledging the sin. Dang that was good. I loved that!
Every time I hear him talk my Holy Spirit alarms start ringing. This guy has an arrogance on him that prevents humility. I have watched him live and the only thing I heard was him telling everyone they are wrong. He even said at one point “Say I don’t know. You don’t know so be honest and say it. That’s right you don’t know so I will tell you”. He was very condescending towards others and has a “I am never wrong” attitude. The people who challenged him and called him out for being rude even got the response of “some of yall better be glad I’m saved now”. That’s not a humble heart after God. That’s arrogance and pride. I pray he opens his heart to find a mentor that can lead him to truth and he will have an open heart to it.
Johnny preaches the simplicity of CHRIST ❤, Marcus your all over the place half the time your not hearing from God I love you enough to tell you the truth ❤ , You are preaching another Gospel of water and tongues repent in love ❤we have mutual friends I truly love you ❤
I was going to say that Marcus is not preaching a different Gospel, but is he is teaching that you come to Jesus and then have to make sure you don't willfully sin anymore or you could go to hell, then sadly, that is a different Gospel and NOT the Good News that was spread 2000+ years ago.
@ 100%, the way Marcus and others teach on this subject is that our salvation is based on our works, but they disguise it with different language to make it sound like it's not and it's still God. I know some do it because they were taught that way and some do it out of ignorance.
Thank you for covering this Pastor Markus. I do have a question about this though. If repentance means to turn away, is that the inital turning to Christ and following God at that point and then mistakes along the way are what we ask forgiveness for? Im only asking because i want to understand.
If you truly are a believer, you despise sin, and when you sin, your disgusted! You do not live in perpetual sin! Hebrews 8 was written to Hebrews who were use to doing the acts of the Pharisees! The writer was saying, after you have received the truth about CHRIST, to return back to the ways of the Pharisees, there can be no remission for your sin. Did the crucifixion of CHRIST not cover sins past present and future? And you say that you can walk out of CHRIST hand, but no one can pluck you out... Aren't you included in "no one", are you not somebody? Exactly! If you are saved, you produce fruit, but you can be saved and walk in darkness, but what happened to all those people in the Bible who did so? they died, but their soul went to Heaven! Your all over the place in this video! Love your music though!
a) we confess, we are sinners in need of a savior, who relys on the grace of God everyday. b) we walk around 100 times a day repenting of sins like a paranoid schizophrenic, thinking we are able to catch and repent of every sinful thing we do in order to be right with God.
@11:55 do you think this is referring to us fighting against our sin, and trusting in the Lord through the process of sanctification? It’s hard to imagine just snap of a finger and never sin again, even though I try I fail and turn back to the Lord, and he helps me and inspires me to not sin again.. Brother Marcus what do you think of this?
That’s not at all what Johnny is teaching He’s teaching that once you accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior and stay in the word of God your life will transform all on its own but he emphasizes staying in the word otherwise we stay in a CYCLE of sin repent sin repent Please don’t bash him the way he’s spreading the word of God is the way Jesus taught us to
Galatians 5:17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish”
I remember watching that. I cringed & changed the YT channel… all of a sudden he(Johnny) been coming out with questionable stuff. It seems like he waited until he got a good amount of following before letting his tongue loose like this. I even questioned 1 of his lessons on dreams & his ppl’s got some way with me for questioning it. Idk but 1 thing I do, I workout my own salvation with fear & trembling! All glory be!✝️🧎🏻
This was sooo good brother! Praying for Johnny Chang and praying for you to continue to strengthen you to do what many in this faith won’t do God bless you brother Marcus 🤍
❤ Wow yes I been seeing a lot of people like him outta nowhere. I just studied for myself, and I had to unfollow so many ppl because there is also ppl with huge platforms that say the same thing . I appreciate the honesty and Biblical support 🙏 facts from Marcus Rogers Amen I agree brother this is something else
For those who may not know, Marcus is misinforming of what the Hebrew writer is talking about. The writer is talking about the Hebrew believes who came to Christ, but were reverting back to Judaism. That's the sin the writer was reffing to. Not the way Marcus was quoting it, and the way it is commonly taught in alot of churches. Alot of professing Christians don't really understand justification, and what Christ sacrifice has really done. That's why we're always debating losing salvation.
Amen ❤....not to believe that Jesus' once & for all death was for sins FOREVER HEBREWS 10:12 IS SIN.....not to believe that is to remain dead in sin & dead works.....we are sanctified & perfected forever by the offering of the body of Jesus Christ ONCE & FOR ALL...God's will hebrews 10:10 ❤
Thank God for discernment! This video and the last video didn’t sit right with me. Then I seen you do videos on both. I appreciate you correcting these teachings.
@@3peas86The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit…. The WORD doesn’t necessarily NEED to say the word TRINITY. The Trinity means that THE FATHER, THE SON and THE HOLY SPIRIT are ALL ONE. JESUSFATHERHOLYSPIRIT.
Good break down. We are suppose to hate what our Father hates and love what He loves. How can we walk in the works of darkness and walk with our Savior at once? We are neither hot nor cold, but lukewarm, and will be spit out of the body of Hamachiach. But if we "struggle" with sin, the Spirit is there to help break all strongholds and bring deliverance if we desire to be free.
They love him because he’s teaching them what they want to hear. The ones that have “itching” ears. Some foolishness, to say the least. Nothing more than a hell-fueled NOVICE!! 🏃♂️ 🏃♂️ 🏃
That is why I like you Marcus, when i was a babe in Christ, I made mistakes. Been divorce, got remarried but repented and work on my salvation with fear and trembling..
I'm not condemning but if you think you need to work ok your salvation your prolly aren't saved, you are only saved by believing, again I'm trying to help not condemn
What’s very important that I’m not hearing is the power that changes us as we are walking with Christ abiding in his word it’s a cleansing agent once we have turned away from a sin that we step into have stepped into. We need God‘s power. We cannot change ourselves. We would fight a losing battle so leaning looking to God along with our will we will be successful with not seeing that sin or practicing that sin anymore. Because we are being sanctified, although positionally, we are innocent, justified, sanctified… we have to remember we are sanctified by the Spirit. God knows how to deliver the godly from out of temptation.
He gave his testimony on Delafe a while back. I don't know his heart, but I think that he may have good intentions. He seems sincere. He just doesn't know what he's talking about. He needs dicsipleship, badly. I wish some YT pastors would minister to him one on one.
I agree with Marcus 100% on this one. Either this guy is an ignorant babe in Christ or he is a deliberate false teacher who was sent to confused the masses.
It amazes me that people don’t believe “once saved always saved” the moment you confessed Jesus is your Lord and savior you are justified, sanctified, and soon to be glorified. I am no longer a sinner, and it doesn’t matter what I do as a Christian I will still go to heaven. Mind you, me doing whatever I want doesn’t mean there won’t be consequences here on earth and there will be treasures in heaven I won’t inherit but I will never go to hell because of the grace of God and He doesn’t take back what He gives you. WE only lose what God gives us and WE will Only lose our salvation if we tell God from our hearts and tongue that we no longer want Jesus Christ in our lives and truly believe it; not by sinning and not repenting. The same way we accept Christ is the same way we can lose Christ.
No man can pluck you out of the father’s hands, but you can choose to fall away. Scripture just said NO MAN… This includes you!!! You can’t pluck yourself
You can actually loose your salvation. You have a free will and God's not going to stop you to leave. It's written; Revelation 3:5 states, "The one who conquers will be clothed thus in white garments, and I will never blot his name out of the book of life. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. Matthew 24:12 Put yourself under scripture to know what you are talking about.
@@ilonaeskolin8443 So if a person goes through 2 Corinthians 5:17 where it says that we are new creations in Christ, and that the old has passed away. Are you saying that the new creation can fall away as well? Matthew 7:21-23 says "21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ Notice what Jesus says here. He didn't say "I knew you and then you left me". He says "I never knew you". Which means that individual never received salvation in spite of all of the work they were doing.
@charleskentjr696 the new creation can definitely be corrupt. How do you explain the 2 scriptures away? There are more scriptures in the Word that talks about taking your salvation seriously; Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. Phil 2:12. Read about the 7 churches in the Book of Revelation... Matthew 25.. The 10 virgins.. all Believers, only 5 had oil. Because ppl are not immersed in His Word, deception is amongst those who think they have right standing with God. Noone wants to examine themselves yet eying others shortcomings.
This ain't it bro ur fruits are starting to show jealousy I think ur mad because he was in a gang and went to prison and ur like why him god I've been good I went to the military blah blah blah I like both of you guys but ur losing me with this hate towards this man I'ma pray for you Godbless 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Also, to your point, read John 8:11 regarding His Response to the woman who committed adultery. In fact, I encourage everyone to read the entire John Chapter 8, which talks about our judgement of others, when we are not perfect. Jesus made it clear, for her to go and sin no more…
It just makes me wonder, when the time comes for each and every one of us to stand before God, how many of these online ministers are really saved? The Bible does say narrow is the road. It also says not everyone who says to me Lord Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven. We really need to study the Word to show ourselves approved because that lack of knowledge will cause us to teach falsely. Some people’s Bible are other people’s words! We need to ask God for wisdom and understanding to rightfully divide it. On a side note, If y’all really do come into an agreement with Johnny’s teaching on this matter, why aren’t y’all going to your own pastor or your own leadership in the church and asking questions on whether that specific teaching is right instead of just believing what sounds good to your ear. What happened to accountability within your own house? Who’s your pastor!?Who’s your covering!? It’s wild out here. Stop letting so many different online ministers speak into your lives cause not everyone serves the same Jesus! I never knew you!!
Marcus, pray for Dante bowe. I don’t know why I keep feeling that he needs prayer right now. I know God can bring him back and do that work of sanctification in him. Truly believe the Lords not done with him yet.
Jesus said those the Father gave Him can't be plucked from His hand. (John 10:28-30) I believe that means we can't lose our salvation no matter what the world causes to make someone lose hope or to "turn away." Perhaps it effects what happens in heaven somehow... idk, but I am among those who say we can't lose our salvation because God knew our hearts when we accepted Jesus as Lord. I think of all the children who come to the Lord but then are NEVER discipled. They don't know how to fight nor how to grow the one-on-one relationship with the Father through Holy Spirit. Not attacking by any means, I just felt led to share. :) Godspeed
@@CharelleWilson Some Bible verses that seem to counter the idea of "once saved, always saved" include: 1 Corinthians 6:9-11: Warns against serious sins that can keep someone from entering God's Kingdom Galatians 5:19-21: Warns against serious sins that can keep someone from entering God's Kingdom Matthew 24:42; 25:13: Commands Christians to "keep on the watch" Hebrews 10:36; 12:2, 3; Revelation 2:10: Shows that those who have been saved must endure faithfully to the end Hebrews 6:4-6: States that those who revert to Judaism crucify Christ again 1 Timothy 1:18-20: Discusses two believers who have shipwrecked their faith
If it was possible to loose our salvation we would literally loose it in 24-48 hrs. There is nothing we did to gain salvation, no man can boast as it is given by grace as stated in Ephesians. Saying you can loose your salvation is like saying you gained it by your own strength that why it’s called GRACE( undeserved kindness). If we could loose our salvation there would be no point in Jesus dying on the cross. 1st John 4:4- “But you belong to God, my dear children. You have already won the victory over those people, because the spirit who lives in you is greater than the spirit who lives in the world”…. When we receive the Holy Spirit (the spirt that rose Jesus from the dead) He is greater than our temptations. We will sin but not lose our salvation. God is the author and finished of our faith.
För if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness." Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt.
We can do nothing. Like Paul says it’s not I but Christ that live within me. All glory goes to God nothing but salvation by his grace and mercy is giving to us. If we say we can produce works then we can eventually invite pride to enter into our hearts. Christ does all the work for us.
I believe they have jumped into taking on ministry before God say they are ready...There is a process but they aren't willing to go through..I was listening a guy the other day and he had experience God is supernatural way and after giving his testimony he was thrown into ministry that we wasnt ready for he said he had to step away for his self and also not to lead people astray, he said he wasnt ready to be doing what he was doing, and of course he was shut out by those in a particular church that was using his testimony to grow the church so in reality he was being used...So often when person comes out telling their testimony many want to profit of it...Lord Jesus Help us....
I think Johnny struggled are is struggling with sins that he tried to overcome. He keeps deleting comments that doesn’t agree with his teachings.
He's already an overcomer he's already forgiven.. Would you mean he's struggling with sin he believes in Jesus Christ.. his sins are covered... Christ justified us .. He said it is finished!!! All of you people are carrying The yoke around your neck... Jesus fulfilled the law.. He was the law unto himself... He was the end of the law.. You are an error!!!!@ I pray the Holy Spirit reveals to you...
@@againstthegrainmichelelee9781 so if you’re practicing homosexual, who believes in Jesus Christ, that sin is covered?
one thing to delete, another thing to reply and address. He's wrong and he refuses to acknowledge it.
@@againstthegrainmichelelee9781you know him personally what if he keeps drinking and getting drunk or watch’s adult film would you say he is struggling with sin? How is he an over comer?
@@marianlindsay7787right? Lol someone was triggered
Just because Johnny got famous over a year ago does not mean that he is a 'babe" in Christ, blowing up on social media does not show your personal relationship with God. If you actually listened to his testimony, He received salvation in 2015. He stayed at his church for a year with his Pastor/ mentor, then went to a completely different country to be a missionary for a year. You don't know his story, did not even listen to his bible study in full. Everything that Johnny preaches about is from the word of God, the bible. Everything he says has a scripture. You have 2 ears and 1 mouth but still you choose to talk more than you listen. Reading the comments under your post I notice that people assume that asking for forgiveness equals repentance. You can ask for forgiveness and not have a heart of repentance. People do it all time without even realizing it. So many Christians became Christians out of fear of going to Hell, that they try to keep the Law themselves and focused on their own works than actually building a relationship with God and allowing Him to lead your life. If God is leading your life, you automatically sin less because you are focused on God and His word. Struggling to keeping the Law and failing is what is going to lead you to Jesus and open your heart to receiving true salvation through grace. But many people deceive people that they are keeping the law and asking for forgiveness. The reason why Jesus was baptized was to transfer to sins of the world on Him. That is why he had to pay the price for our sins through death. Jesus was perfect, the gruesome torture and death he went through was not for the sins of that time period but of the WORLD. including your past, present, and future sins. Asking for forgiveness is the same as saying that what Jesus went through wasn't enough to wash this sin and say he should go back on the cross once more. I will say it again ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS IS NOT TRUE REPENTANCE. There are so many scriptures and parables that shows the heart of man being evil, prideful, arrogant and the heart of God which is the opposite. Finally, we have someone that does not preach on the surface level also I want to add that Johnny was not the one that came up with these teachings, my Pastor preaches the same thing, Check out Martin Luther, DL Moody. The pastors that stand for scripture only. They have the same teaching. I'm sorry to say but this surface level preaching and preaching what you feel should be right is unfortunately sending people astray. So many Christians do not know if they are going to Heaven and in the bible clearly states that the righteous will go to Heaven. But because you want to look humble, You won't ever say you are righteous, you disregard the words of God. The word of God that never lies, that my friend is human righteousness, arrogance that you choose to believe what you feel or your thought over the word of God. There are so many scriptures about the LAW and the real reason why it was created. If people could go Heaven by the Law, God wouldn't need to send our Saviour Jesus. Everything in the bible is connected. The reason I can say these things is because I have been there before, I have failed trying to keep the Law and that was my biggest burden when I was following the generic teaching of the world . I would ask for forgiveness thinking that I am repenting, I wanted to make myself perfect before going to God in prayer. living spiritual life like that made being a Christian miserable and I gave up. I accidentally went to a dance performance event and then a pastor came and preached the true gospel for 30 mins and I received salvation. God allowed for me to go through that to break the arrogance and self-righteousness for me to hear and accept the Gospel. Since then, I have been guided by the church, my pastors, and pastors wives. This didnt happen over night, whenever my flesh arises, i tell my pastor, church sisters etc and they shift my focus back to the word of God.
I been there before,Then God shows me the real truth ,which set me free from law ,condemnation and sin! What Jesus did on the cross is the only way out! People think they can fight sin fight satan by keeping the law, I tried ,which leave me like hell on earth! Law are not for us to keep, they are lead us to Jesus,it is written in the Bible!
@@Lu-go5eb Amen🤍
Before the Christian TH-camrs got on him I saw for myself on live saying he believes that the Lord do not speak to us in dreams and signs and all things above. I said WOW! That took a turn. He needs disciple ship, he needs guidance.
You do realize that being a certian age in the spirit isn't so much determine by how long you've been saved, but if that your actually growing. lm praying for him for sure. He just needs real guidance and be true that he might've been wrong on his teaching. All of us have been there in some way.
I want to say something, and I don't want you to take it the wrong way. I did not read your full comment, but the way you wrote all that defending Johnny as if Marcus just cursed him or something I would have to say you may have grown
attachment to him. Watch out for the spirit of offensive.
Please don't take what I'm saying in a wrong way. Peace and blessings
@@bjoneswhite306 thank you sister, I know nobody got 100 percent right about God, that’s why we are growing, and I do believe and knows that god speaks us through dream and visions, I know jonnny Chang got this point wrong, but we all need grace to grow, we can not call someone false teacher just because he got one or two things wrong about God, because only Jesus can 100percent knows God , we all on a journey to learn and know more about him. besides that point Jonny got wrong, he did have some amazing testimony and his teachings about what is sin and how to overcome it is also amazing, I believe totally Holy Spirit leading him and not the religion church who always tell you to repent and never tell you how!
@ how are you going to come to a conclusion on what you think about me and talking about me being being attached to him💀 if you haven’t even read my comment. Is that making any sense to you. The unknown arrogance and wanting to diagnose people who have different beliefs than you do is crazy. You cannot change the truth no matter what you think or feel. I am a born again Christian and knew of this before I knew who Johnny Chang was. You come on here and make up things based on what you feel. Not everything that goes on in your head, you should believe. Also I didn’t take offense because your thoughts and opinion aren’t facts. You believe that God in this day and age talks to you in dreams and based on scripture some people don’t in this current time. The latter being me, because you believe what I don’t I can also say you need discipleship as well and need guidance. Anyways you will know them by their fruits. If your way is the truth you don’t need to come on the internet and diagnose people from what you think or feel. If what you believe is the truth pray for people to come to know the truth and move on. Drop a scripture and go. I don’t want to hear your thoughts or opinions, if you’re not coming with scripture. Then forget it, as your comment will serve no purpose.
I truly believe a lot these people are starting ministries out of their own will. God has not called a lot of these people on TH-cam to start ministries and that’s why so much confusion is going around you have to be called to do something like ministry.
Interesting point 🤔. Please read my comment concerning this subject.
I thought people realized that way before now! I have always thought that especially the last few years. It's like people either use it as a grift to make money and or restore their image or reputation. Or they genuinely really have the right intentions and heart for it, but lack the understanding that they need to grow and mature in faith and knowledge of the scriptures well 1st. It's ok to share testimonies and experiences that can describe the lord working in someone's life and goodness. But trying to teach and preach Is NOT for everyone but those truly called by God to do so and to even begin you must have the holy spirit and anointing to.
@@nathanrota4555 that’s true it shouldn’t cost $25 to join a Bible study…
@JesusIsLordLasVegasno, that’s wrong. If you are not called and trained by God don’t teach
I was called to do videos on tiktok. Lol I straight avoided it for a year. But I do it to help people the way some other Christian influences helped me. Just sharing my testimony, my conversations with God, sharing words he gives me that I share with others because maybe it's for someone else. He has me praying and reading scripture all the time. I love to do it for him, I'd do anything to get in our Father's presence ❤
I truly believe that you should seek the Lord in prayer and reach out to Johnny directly instead of first deciding to make videos about him. The Bible says that we should go to the person yourself, and then to bring a few witnesses and then involve the church. Blasting anyone on social media instead of going to them isn’t showcasing the love of God or his order. I’m not saying he’s right or wrong, I’m saying I don’t believe this is the way God wants his believers to behave.
exactly!!!!!
This is the wrong way to go about this man. Your heart is not in the right place and God can see that. Regardless of who is right or wrong acknowledging it in this way is wrong. As fellow Christians before there is an assumption made there should be as collaborations. When 2 or 3 of us are together our prayers are heard. As a true Christian your mission is to bring people closer to God not confuse them. Imagine people new in there faith trying to find a strong leader to guide them and they see your video putting a minister down? That will turn people away not drive them towards Jesus. Seeing the lack of empathy, compassion and respect between Christians is not what Jesus wants. If this guy is your enemy which clearly it sounds like he is God calls you to love him deeply so why don’t you call him? Collaborate and support eachother and find out where you guys can come together to bring more people to Christ. This is a shame that people who claim to be followers of Christ ultimately confuse and turn the minds of new believers. You’re making a mistake. At least Johnny hasn’t made any dis videos.
I totally agree
Throwing my two cents in here. I found that Johnny has actually led me to a lot of confusion. I do want to preface this by saying I believe he is a follower of Christ, and he loves the Lord. I found what he has said to be against David asking for forgiveness in the Psalms (I can't remember the exact verse, so please forgive me), and Jesus saying "forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors." Alongside a couple other places. Not only that, but when I decided to follow what Johnny said I felt very convicted within my prayer, and was confused. That's my personal story though
I honestly think this video is prime example of what’s wrong with the Christian community(and I like your channel btw).
I don’t think Johnny is saying to continually walk in the dark I think he’s saying is: when you focus on your relationship with God and you repent by coming into agreement with what God sees as good/bad (not by your own works aka turning from sin), you will naturally, automatically, start sinning less because you are growing closer to God. I honestly think you guys actually sat down and talked to each other you wouldn’t disagree with each other. I think you’re disagreeing with something he doesn’t even believe. I could be wrong but we need to stop being so quick to be hyper critical of fellow believers and start building up the body of Christ to sharpen each other. You haven’t even talked to this dude, why do you feel qualified to critique his position when it sounds like you’re not even interpreting his point correctly? (in my opinion)
Thank you for pointing this out. Johnny is not wrong with that word meaning “homologeo.” I agree with you. It seems like Johnny is emphasizing the believers position in Christ, and having that position determine your behavior, not your behavior determining your position. I agree with you. We should be discussing things in charity, in the love of Christ. Unfortunately, I think this is a meat teaching, and many who still want the milk of the law are going to have a tough time with it. It reminds me of Ishmael (born of the bond woman), persecuting Isaac (born of the promise through Sarah).
Amen❤🙏
@@Cgoodall I watched the rest of the video in context behind what Johnny is saying about how we’re forgiven. He saying basically is that we’re not forgiven and made right in God’s eyes by continuously repenting or saying I’m sorry but by genuine, saving faith we’re completely cleansed by the blood of Jesus passed present future sins. Marcus took a small clip that he saw out of a 13 minute video if I’m correct and decided to respond
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Well said! Amen to that !!!
Marcus you also took this video completely out of context because at the very end of the video he says”and this is how we’re forgiven” the point of his video was to show people is that we’re not forgiven for our past present future sins by just simply confessing or saying I’m sorry what he saying is that when we truly confess that we are sinners by nature that we are messed up and that we need Christ as our personal sin bearer the moment we receive Christ as our Lord and Savior, we are forgiven of all sin past present and future. This does not mean that we should not repent when we fall short, but this means is that we no longer have to continuously repent over and over and over to be righteous or justified in God’s eyes because we were justified and made righteous when we came by faith.
Amen
“For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.”
Ephesians 2:8-9 NKJV
I don’t know why people overlook this verse…they think accept Jesus AND obey will get them into heaven…that’s not why Jesus said “it is finished” 😢
Yeah he did bro. He doesn’t do extensive research. He just can’t wait to make a video
If you sin (and you’re already saved) you absolutely have to repent. If you do it again, then you have to repent again.
Yes !!
I don't trust what your saying because
You just want clicks you ain't proving anything stop using Johnny face on your videos all you do is going after people who have more like then you do
@@benitomartinez2911 and here you still are 🤔🤔🤔
Agree,
Have you ever listened to his full Bible studies? He actually goes over a lot of the same scriptures you mentioned, however, his explanations comes from the word. Not “I think”, “I feel”, “I don’t like”, “I don’t think”… “in my opinion”…it’s ironic…a recent one I watched, he actually taught on all these exact same scriptures, crossed referenced with multiple verses, used the Greek and Hebrew meanings, read it and explained contextually…and I don’t remember any of his opinions being mentioned but guess what I do remember? I remember the scriptures. Hmm. This sounds like a lot of opinions and feelings to me, not the word.
ill trust som1 whose led by the spirit over som1 who is only full of head knowledge of the word but no connection with the Holy Spirit.
@ how would you know if he’s lead by the spirit from a 30 out of context clip?
@@kelsikreid 🤞 Very factual fam agree with you fully , Only thing im uncertain is about what he said about the dreams and visions though. But when I listen to his full live stream and when he truly dissects questions and those stuff taken out of context , he really does it very well. My fav Gospel preacher along with KP Serves. 💯
Marcus I’m legit praying for you that you stop throwing stones from the glass house you’re living in. False prophecies, false teachings, jumping into other people’s business when it had nothing to do with you, lying on God etc.. Marcus please let this stuff go man. I’m hoping for you to continue to come into the truth, but you keep trying to get the speck out of others eyes when there’s a tree log in yours. Marcus from the bottom of my heart I mean this, please seek where you can grow at and where you fall short at and then let the Holy Spirit correct you and help you. This is getting out of hand🙏🏾💔
AMEN...... Thank you brother....
Yeah but he defends Bryan Trejo who has been living an entire double lifestyle.
I wish you would let his video play so the viewers can form their own opinion before you form their opinion for what he said by cutting into the clip you want us to see...I still did not hear the full scope of what he was saying to form the opinion you're selling.... maybe I have to watch his video to see what he actually said.
Period. Please provide full context... not snippets
I believe that Johnny is teaching people to acknowledge their sinful nature and live your life reading the word. Through the word, you will be changed not through your own will, but through his. He will strengthen us, give us all that we need.
I try so many times to see when Marcus and so many others are actually gonna grow spiritually and begin to understand God's Word on a much deeper level but it just doesn't seem to be happening. All this surface level theology debate and understanding is what is robbing so many Christians of a true in depth relationship with Jesus. I don't even have to watch the whole clip of what Johnny is talking about and I understood it completely as is if the Holy Spirit was teaching Himself. If you truly think what Johnny was saying led you to the conclusion that he is saying its ok to continue to sin and live in darkness then I already know your level of spiritual understanding. Let me help by the grace of the Holy Spirit. Johnny is speaking on the same conclusion our brother in Christ the Apostle Paul came to when he said for it is no longer I who do it but the sin that dwells within me. (Romans 7:17) Please body of Christ reread Romans 7 and ask the Holy Spirit to truly open your eyes to what the Apostle Paul is truly saying here. What Johnny is saying is acknowledging your sinful nature within your heart is what gets you in right standing with God and at that moment you have given your heart to Jesus. At that point now you have a pliable heart God can work with and as long as you remain in Him you begin to sin less and less. God knowing that your flesh is weak that when you do stumble, Grace abounds more and all He sees is the finished work Jesus did on the cross for all our sins past, present, and future. The second part is what he is saying is dangerous is that if you just believe in the works of confession but don't have true repentance (acknowledgement), then you get caught up in a cycle of sin confession sin confession leading you to believe you can handle sin on your own just cause you confess it. Therefore you keep pushing the boundaries because you think confession is covering you. All the while digging yourself deeper and deeper into sin not realizing that Jesus is the only way to get out. PLEASE Body of Christ, STOP this surface level banter and dig deeper into your spiritual growth with God. We are going to need it as we get closer to Jesus coming back to renew. It's closer than you think... Lord Jesus I pray that you open your peoples eyes and hearts to true revelation and spiritual understanding of You as we draw closer to You... Amen
Romans 6:1 ESV
[1] What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it.
Grace is abounding to those who have a harth of repentance. He/she who sins and falls into the sin, needs to confess/repent from their sin everytime when they sin, simple as that. When you sin then is god automatically going to remove that sin without you confessing/repenting on it? No....1 john 1:9 tells us that "if" we confess he is faithfull to forgive our sin's and he says over there "if" so the choise is ours....let's look into the context of that 1 john 1....the first chapter is about not living in a sin at all and the whole letter has been sent to chiristins and not to the unbealivers. 1 john 2:1 tells us bealivers that if we sin then we will have our advocate wich is chirist with his faithfullness on forgivness, but after the forgivness of his then we will have his blood covering us from a wrath and judgment of god (1 john 1:9). Like for example when peter committed a sin by denying the lord ("if you deny me before men i will deny you before father" so this means that when we sin that protection wich is his blood will be removed and also it means that he will not defend us)peter repented from it immediately....if peter would have used johny chang understament then he would have said that "well i conffessed/repented once already so i don't have to confess/repent anymore, cuz i'm already saved and grace abounds even more when i sin (your undesranding)
That is exactly what the GOSPEL OF GRACE is. The Apostle Paul is preaching in the new testament.
He is preaching the Gospel of Grace and a few people or Christians know about this, because they are still bound to the "law" - which can not make us holy because nobody can keep the law, if you break one law, then you are guilty of all, the very reason why grace came in the person of JESUS CHRIST.
Clear and concise message. Saved by Grace. God Bless.
22:49 aren’t you doing the same to Johnny ? Did you inbox him privately or did you just decide the smear campaign right away ?
He smeared him, felt conviction because he popped off on someone who actually preaches the gospel and then sent him a dm to back peddle. This dude exalts himself and visions and dreams while Johnny preaches the gospel (Jesus Christ).
Matthew 18:15-17 is to “go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over.
@@Drew1234-q7e❤
He did mention earlier he privately messaged him on Instagram but if I remember correctly he said he didn't get a reply
Clout chasing works based Marcus Rodger’s at it again 🤡 dudes not gospel focused at all lol how do people follow this dude 🤣🤣🤣
Brother stay in your lane you don’t even know what your talking about focus on the gospel and reach your people threw the gospel why you concerning yourself on someone that you haven’t even therally listen to, listening to clips and going off on a tantrum what you doing is gossip breaking commandments sounds like satan trembling
Aren’t we supposed to repent daily.
We live to die daily!
I do. I never want to offend my savior and redeemer.
So he has to keep saving you cause it didn’t work the first time ?
@@Rightsiderspodcast you are spot on..
@@nathanrota4555 you will have to really understand Hebrews and Galatians. Your belief system sounds good and holy, but it's actually blasphemous against Christ. I encourage you to keep reading Hebrews and Galatians untill God gives you the understanding.
So can you break down Hebrews 10:14 please “For by “one” sacrifice he has made “perfect” “forever” those who are being made holy.”
PREACH!!!
“Being made” it is continuous consecration doesn’t end, work out your salvation with fear and trembling
1 Timothy 3:6 "He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil"
While listening to this my spirit felt the same way when I’m standing with people who gossip 😔. Go on a live with the brother or something
I am so glad I have been delivered from this way of thinking. I used to be so self critical it was like I couldn't do anything right and I felt God was continually disappointed with me. We can sin and don't even know it..The Bible says if you do something not in faith it is sin... I used to see myself as so dirty in the eyes of God. Knowing that I was forgiven once and for all past, present, and future sin destroyed the grip sin had on me. I am free from sin not free to sin!
I encourage you to watch the entire video and not just a clip Mr. Rogers.
Johnny Chang does NOT teach to continue to Sin and that its “ok you are still saved” and if you watched his video in its entirety you would know that. But making a whole video without the full facts is unreasonable and premature. If it matters to you that much you would watch the full video otherwise you are just creating unnecessary hostility in the christian community. lets be quick to listen and slow to speak.
The Bible actually tells us it’s foolish to do so.. proverbs 18:13
If a believer suddenly dies right as they are in the middle of stealing a paper clip from the pastors office… is that person going to heaven or are they going to hell?
1. If you say heaven then you believe in “once for all forgiveness” for those who are in Christ.
2. If you say hell then you don’t believe in God’s grace and love to cover a multitude of sins and you are 100% “dependent on your ability” to confess for every sin you ever commit. Under this system I hope you don’t forget one sin and just saying “forgive me for anything I may have done against you” doesn’t work as that isn’t true repentance of your sin.
3. If you don’t know if you are going to heaven or hell then it’s sad that you are so confused about God’s love and mercy for His children…
🙏🙏🙏
This is a very good analogy! Thank you for sharing.
27:09 here you go adding context. He didn’t say that. You do the same to scripture adding twist. Smh
Johnny believes in “once for all forgiveness” instead of little by little forgiveness…
“For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.”
Hebrews 10:14 NIV
Absolutely right
And to add to that Hebrews 10:11-18 KJV
[11] And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: [12] but this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; [13] from henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. [14] For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. [15] Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, [16] This is the covenant that I will make with them After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, And in their minds will I write them; [17] And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. [18] Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
bible.com/bible/1/heb.10.11-18.KJV
@@rjc9537 Ameeeen!!! 🙌
That is not the context of hebrews 10:26 sir. He’s referring to the people who were still thinking works and sacrifices could save them and not believing in the blood of Christ only
That's what I was explaining.. Hebrews is commonly taught the wrong way in many churches today.. Especially mainstream churches. Professing believers must begin to read for themselves; and not just 15mins once a week. Must deep dive into the word of God, and pray for guidance of the Holy Spirit, and stop trying to conclude things from your own understanding.
An elder or someone who knows the word very well needs to have a sit down with him and rebuke him in person. The bible says open rebuke is better than love carefully concealed. I hope he isn't offended by a brother in Christ trying to correct or help him. I hope he reaches out to Marcus
I think it’s just a lot of miscommunication, y’all get on live together
That's the issue with social media. Anyone can get on a platform and say anything!! No one is there to hold you accountable.
I stopped listening to social media teachers and got in the word myself!!!!
However, I still follow a few, same ones from day 1
What happened to Matthew 18:15-17 is to “go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. But you wanna be on social media putting your mouth on people ! If you are half right you are all wrong ! I knew I never listened to you for a reason ! God have Mercy on you ! 🕊️
IT KEEPS GETTING WORSE WITH YOU TOO MARCUS.
He never defended him he just keeps making videos doesn’t talk to Johnny no breaking bread no iron sharpening iron just feelings and I think he’s this and I don’t know this and makes a video to get amens no gospel just trust your visions and dreams
Yup we supposed to help each others out
@@jeffreyhuston2013 how so??He is helping us to see.
@ilonaeskolin8443 Have you been seeing all of this nonsense Mr. Rogers has been inserting himself in? All of his false prophecies? He keeps saying that God told him to do something, but there is no good fruit coming from it. Keep your eyes on Jesus, not Marcus.
@jeffreyhuston2013 false prophecies? I've heard them but which one was false? The Trump? He got a 2nd term, not the timing he thought, yet..
Being approved by the BIG CHRISTIAN INDUSTRY should raise a flag! That's why we need true discernment and study the word!
That part
Amen indeed!!
If you don’t want to hear that’s all you gotta say because he explains everything so deep and clear if you think he’s wrong just pray for him or talk to him.
No. He's explaining wrong. Just because it sounds deep doesn't mean it is. He's using fancy words and his own understanding. He's working for the devil if he's not explaining the Bible properly. That's not right and needs to be called out.
I have not come away from a teaching of his feeling whole or edified by what he preaches. He always inserts "You understand?" without ever having elucidated anything. I have asked him about what his thoughts are on scripture that refutes his claims against the Gifts of the Spirit both in his chat and his discord and my questions got ignored or deleted. He is operating on pride on par of a pharisee's spirit in boasting on having read the Bible so many times, in my estimation.
He still has high places in his heart that he has yet to tear down.
@@Daughterofthe_Kingexample?
@@Daughterofthe_King something won’t sound deep of it isn’t and the words he uses are the words he learns from Hebrew and Greek he explains it all not just on his opinion but on the word. But not everyone is willing to hear so I get it.
@@GaiaGuy7191 I watch to and he explains but not everyone wants to hear how he explains it they just spam him so I don’t blame him for deleting when someone isn’t willing to understand and is just there to criticize.
Pastor Marcus is 💯 in the Bible! My favorite scripture is: Workout your own salvation with fear and trembling because l understand that we can play ourselves if we don’t repent and just do it the Lords way!
@@VikkiCarr-n8t work out your own salvation with fear in trembling is not for you to work, read the next verse to see who does the work, God is not a spirit of fear this would contradict scripture aye aye aye
@ l know what the scripture means. You know the letter kills so this is really about living a spiritual life….. l just was quoting my favorite scripture and agreeing with Marcus. Stop trying to be a scholar because earthly intelligence is foolishness to God.
@@VikkiCarr-n8t not tryna have earthly knowledge I just gave you scripture bro. Beware of people who take videos out of context bro God bless.
@ bye! You have an argumentative spirit and I’m not entertaining that nonsense.✌🏿
@@VikkiCarr-n8t I’m not tryna argue with you my friend but whatever you say. I hope you have a good night . You assumed I was being argumentative because you felt as though what I was saying was attacking you and it wasn’t.
Thanks for sharing 🙏🏿
Prayers going out for him 🕊️
His grace and mercy be upon you and your loved ones 🕊️🥛🍯
Johnny blocked me for correcting his false doctrine. He has dangerous teachings.
That goes to show he's either a babe in God or not one at AI because iron sharpens iron and His aren't prideful, but humble u der God and always humble TY examine themselves to make sure their sound what's right in the eyes of God. We're so used to listening to God teach and correcting us we at the least will listen until we know it's a direct contradiction to God.
@ Amen. They’d right, sister. We have to be open to correction. No one is impervious to error.
Amen very dangerous!
@@ProphetGreg94 I would block you too🤷♂️, it’s so weird that you are quick to make videos on other people. If your page is for the true gospel then preach what you’re preaching and move on. If I know the truth I wont argue with someone who doesn’t. Believe what you believe only God can change someone’s heart.
When I first heard Johnny and his testimony, I was excited about his conversion and his experience. But when I heard him teaching on a live stream for the first time, I saw that he was not rightly dividing the word of truth. I commented on it in the live comments in that live stream. I hope he gets it straight for everyone's sake. Hopefully, someone he respects can bring correction. Never want to lead God's children astray...
I was tho maybe he was but you said he’s not.
Did anyone else notice that he didn’t play the entire clip 😂? He only cuts it off when he feels like its wrong 😂. Pastor marcus 😂
Also Marcus is wrong about Joel and acts. 3 Johnny is not a cessationist , Joel is quoted in acts 2:17-21 which tells us that when God pours his spirit upon people the sun will be turned black, the moon will be turned red and black acts 2:17-21 is expounded upon within each other. A lot of you guys hate Johnny chang because people take videos out of context instead of sitting in on his lives and learning from him when he teaches straight of scripture. God bless you all.
As watchmen we have to call out when we see someone teaching things like “good doesn’t do dreams” , people are not going to like it but that’s ok
“Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.”
Acts 7:51 KJV
After generation after generation they still reject Holy Spirit. They reject the supernatural of the Living God
Pastor Marcus Rogers...you are such an awesome teacher!!!! ❤️ ❤️ ❤I really felt this and I have been telling some of my family members for a long time that one saved is not always saved. I even gave them the scripture Hebrews 10:26 as well.
“For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.”
Ephesians 2:8-9 NKJV
@@TrevorLV702
It is written: "Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?" James 2:17-20.
Works (actions/fruits) is a byproduct of faith.
@ correct, and dead works are you trying to work your way into heaven without fully trusting in God’s sacrifice.
Jesus said “I AM the way to the Father”
@@ilonaeskolin8443 correct, and dead works are you trying to work your way into heaven without fully trusting in God’s sacrifice.
Jesus said “I AM the way to the Father”
Amen!
Did Jesus die for all our sins or just some of our sins?
Jesus died for every single one of them.
“Knowing” the truth doesn’t mean you are saved. The devil knows the truth. Being saved means believing in the truth. Once “truly saved” always saved! I disagree with you here, Marcus.
All I know is EVERYDAY we all must go towards the cross in JESUS' name! Thank you Lord God for saving me in Jesus name!! 📛🙏🏻🛡️🎯⚔️
If you don't believe in once saved always saved what about Philippians 1:6, where it says God WILL COMPLETE the good work He started in us?
Yeah if you want it to be complete ! If you stay the course he’ll do his part and complete the work! That’s not an end all be all scripture that suggest you can’t walk away from God if you choose not to! Once saved always saved goes against so much scripture that testifies that that isn’t true at all. Godbless
@noivad1 and there are just as many scriptures to argue against losing your salvation so....
@ You’re right the topic is complex. It’s not contradictory though it’s just about understanding. Pray for the truth to be revealed, that applies to us all. Godbless
@@Jesusgirl_21 as long as you "abide". He will help you to overcome if you stay.
@ilonaeskolin8443 y'all don't even know. 4 years ago I willfully walked away from God and into the worst sin of my life. For nearly 2 years I walked away from Him. Guess what? He chased me back down and restored me. That's the kind of love that never gives up and never lets go
Can you just preach the Bible please and stop talking about other people
God calls us to live a repentive lifestyle BECAUSE we sin daily...😢 praying for him to learn better and know better. There seems to be that he has a hardened heart still which is why this is his theology. I pray for deliverance in his prideful nature and I pray that he realizes God is unfathomable truly and if he ever reads this, "bro, I'd recommend you read job 38-41 and hear the Father humble you"🙏🏼
Johnny does not teach to sin wilfully, he actually says to run from it 🤦🏻♀️
The lady who committed adultery experienced the grace and mercy of God so when Jesus said go and sin no more she will have done that, as she received his love . If we truly receive his love we will not go out and commit sinful acts because we want to. No one is saying that. But Jesus Christ literally did finish it all on the cross, we can not do ANYTHING to be saved but truly believe in him. Good works come from being in the vine
I 100% agree I watched your previous video on Johnny and I been praying for him because he has still been going on live streams arguing with comments about the dream and visions still claiming that god doesn’t speak through dream and visions.Got very emotional.we need to pray for him.🙏also to add I have been praying for all these “Christian” people to get exposed for fake teaching, crazy and mind blowing 🙏✝️Thank the lord!
He wants to get into the Greek but is misinterpreting and mistranslating the meaning. Repentance comes from metanoia which means to change your mind and turn away. If repentance was a one time thing we would only change our mind and turn away from sin once.
“Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.”
Romans 12:2
@@Colbychristie you do not know what you're talking about. You should all be in his Bible Study to see it for yourself the exact referrencies and the correct approach to his teaching. Only spitting out unrealness without even have studied what is that, firstly and for more one who is preoccupied with God and the God's Word wouldn't find themselves being out here throwing with dirt onto others. So far them Pharisees are thinking they are better. God's way is always God's way, so you can spit all you want, God sees you.
What’s crazy is looking at your channel most your videos is talking about other people vs Johnny Chang stays focused on Jesus and the Bible. Studying the Bible verse by verse in deep context. He doesn’t even need to be talking down on others to stay relevant. I suggest you take the time to actually sit in on one of his Bible studies instead of pulling clips from “shorts” I feel like you are hating on Johnny and that’s alright cuz they hated on Jesus first.
This right here! I don't even see a problem with what Johnny was even saying in this clip.
Marcus is saying it in a loving manner. He’s not even bashing him or tearing him down.
@@superbabymia1 right right …I say it with love brother but u got the spirit of the antichrist smh passive aggressive much?
Marcus a bold man that calls out those who could be misleading others. Whether its for views or he genuinely cares for Gods sheep is between him and God.
There's nothing about what Marcus has said that suggests he's hateful towards Johnny. From my understanding, Marcus, being convicted in his faith, sees a fellow christian who he seeks to reconcile to the best of his ability but God's word comes first. As followers of Christ, we ought to hold each other accountable and thats what's happening. So what if his videos are talking about other people, if its in the name of upholding the truth of God's Word in our lives, what's wrong with that?
Maybe Marcus may have misinterpreted him and maybe Johnny meant something different, but that doesnt mean he cant express his opinion. Marcus himself considered he might be wrong.
Just read Gods Word and know God says what He means and means what it says! Do not listen to every voice! Know the voice of God and ask Him. He will answer if you ask with sincerity and want understanding! This is once saved always save doctrine please please do not believe this! We have to live a life of repentance and obedience.
@@nancyr5161 🤦🏿♂️
I got the feeling that you are misinterpreting what Johnny talks about. You really should watch the long term content and make the judgement after that cause you have a large following and spreading false information about someone is not profitable for the kingdom of God.
"I have to understand i cant just play around in God's face." Thaaank you Marcus. I was too confused after reading that title of chnag's video (last week?). It rlly shook me, thnx fr bringing me back to reading th scripture in context. I rlly understand your concerns Marcus related to th followers of chang, he may deceive them all into denying God's truth. So thank you fpr your obedience to God's calling upon you.
I am so glad you are calling this guy out. Nicely i may add. He is straight up wrong breaking these verses down lead by what because it's not the holy spirit. I feel it's a spirit of straight up confusion to even say all this koni greek stuff to make it even more confusing. This guys been on my feed and I listened for a bit but stopped because he is not right and im glad i know. Alot of people don't he's wrong if you read comments. I repent daily and I know that is in scripture somewhere.
I still watch him, luckily I have Holy Spirit discernment and to differentiate between what is not Holy and what is. I'd rather see Marcus have a conversation behind closed doors with Johnny if he agreed to and even maybe debate it for the growth of all of us.
Yes repenting has to be constant. Not a 1 time thing. It would be like saying once we repent, we will never sin again. And of course we know that is not true. We will sin until the day we die, hence repentance needs to be happening until the day we die, die down here that is. God bless you
@@cxtown5668 yeah I actually spoke to Chang. He said God only speaks through the Bible. When I asked him has he ever heard Gods voice he said a smart butt response. He said “yeah when I open the Bible app and listen to it… in the beginning was the word” and started laughing. I was so devastatingly sad for him. Gods audible voice is the most calming and beautiful thing I have ever heard and he doesn’t even believe in it so much so that he mocks it. So if he thinks God only speaks through the Bible than he isn’t being led by the spirit literally ever. He’s being lead by demons of the flesh or both.
@@Unxpekted I’ve actually spoke with Chang about his false beliefs and I got it on video as well
@@ChristMadeJAG Could you have a fulfilling Christian life if all you have is the scriptures and do not hear God audibly? I believe that reading the word of God gives the same peace and calm as you have described. I have never heard God audibly but I have experienced the Holy Spirit giving me thoughts about things and it always aligned with the written word.
I've attended his Bible studies and heard him express similar to what you agree on, but I just think you're misunderstanding him. It would be great to see you both discuss this topic. God bless
Genesis 4:7
If you do well, will not your countenance be lifted up? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door; and its desire is for you, but you must master it.”
That was actually really good. I agree with him on the acknowledging part. This sits true to me. What he said about confessing leading you to hell, I dont know about that. But I do agree with this acknowledging the sin. Dang that was good. I loved that!
Every time I hear him talk my Holy Spirit alarms start ringing. This guy has an arrogance on him that prevents humility. I have watched him live and the only thing I heard was him telling everyone they are wrong. He even said at one point “Say I don’t know. You don’t know so be honest and say it. That’s right you don’t know so I will tell you”. He was very condescending towards others and has a “I am never wrong” attitude. The people who challenged him and called him out for being rude even got the response of “some of yall better be glad I’m saved now”. That’s not a humble heart after God. That’s arrogance and pride. I pray he opens his heart to find a mentor that can lead him to truth and he will have an open heart to it.
Johnny preaches the simplicity of CHRIST ❤, Marcus your all over the place half the time your not hearing from God I love you enough to tell you the truth ❤ , You are preaching another Gospel of water and tongues repent in love ❤we have mutual friends I truly love you ❤
I was going to say that Marcus is not preaching a different Gospel, but is he is teaching that you come to Jesus and then have to make sure you don't willfully sin anymore or you could go to hell, then sadly, that is a different Gospel and NOT the Good News that was spread 2000+ years ago.
@ 💯 That’s works and nobody will be justified before God that why he’s bewitched
@ 100%, the way Marcus and others teach on this subject is that our salvation is based on our works, but they disguise it with different language to make it sound like it's not and it's still God. I know some do it because they were taught that way and some do it out of ignorance.
Thank you for covering this Pastor Markus. I do have a question about this though.
If repentance means to turn away, is that the inital turning to Christ and following God at that point and then mistakes along the way are what we ask forgiveness for?
Im only asking because i want to understand.
If you truly are a believer, you despise sin, and when you sin, your disgusted! You do not live in perpetual sin! Hebrews 8 was written to Hebrews who were use to doing the acts of the Pharisees! The writer was saying, after you have received the truth about CHRIST, to return back to the ways of the Pharisees, there can be no remission for your sin. Did the crucifixion of CHRIST not cover sins past present and future? And you say that you can walk out of CHRIST hand, but no one can pluck you out... Aren't you included in "no one", are you not somebody? Exactly! If you are saved, you produce fruit, but you can be saved and walk in darkness, but what happened to all those people in the Bible who did so? they died, but their soul went to Heaven! Your all over the place in this video! Love your music though!
Rewatch the video in sincerity.
a) we confess, we are sinners in need of a savior, who relys on the grace of God everyday.
b) we walk around 100 times a day repenting of sins like a paranoid schizophrenic, thinking we are able to catch and repent of every sinful thing we do in order to be right with God.
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@11:55 do you think this is referring to us fighting against our sin, and trusting in the Lord through the process of sanctification? It’s hard to imagine just snap of a finger and never sin again, even though I try I fail and turn back to the Lord, and he helps me and inspires me to not sin again.. Brother Marcus what do you think of this?
That’s not at all what Johnny is teaching
He’s teaching that once you accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior and stay in the word of God your life will transform all on its own but he emphasizes staying in the word otherwise we stay in a CYCLE of sin repent sin repent
Please don’t bash him the way he’s spreading the word of God is the way Jesus taught us to
Thank You Holy Ghost!! You broke that on down Pastor Roger’s. Love it ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Galatians 5:17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish”
Johnny Chang to Johnny dangggg .
like a lightning ⚡️.
May the truth of the Lord & Holy Spirit be with him ✌🏼🎈🕊️
I remember watching that. I cringed & changed the YT channel… all of a sudden he(Johnny) been coming out with questionable stuff.
It seems like he waited until he got a good amount of following before letting his tongue loose like this. I even questioned 1 of his lessons on dreams & his ppl’s got some way with me for questioning it.
Idk but 1 thing I do, I workout my own salvation with fear & trembling!
All glory be!✝️🧎🏻
This was sooo good brother! Praying for Johnny Chang and praying for you to continue to strengthen you to do what many in this faith won’t do God bless you brother Marcus 🤍
❤ Wow yes I been seeing a lot of people like him outta nowhere. I just studied for myself, and I had to unfollow so many ppl because there is also ppl with huge platforms that say the same thing . I appreciate the honesty and Biblical support 🙏 facts from Marcus Rogers Amen I agree brother this is something else
For those who may not know, Marcus is misinforming of what the Hebrew writer is talking about. The writer is talking about the Hebrew believes who came to Christ, but were reverting back to Judaism. That's the sin the writer was reffing to. Not the way Marcus was quoting it, and the way it is commonly taught in alot of churches.
Alot of professing Christians don't really understand justification, and what Christ sacrifice has really done. That's why we're always debating losing salvation.
Amen ❤....not to believe that Jesus' once & for all death was for sins FOREVER HEBREWS 10:12 IS SIN.....not to believe that is to remain dead in sin & dead works.....we are sanctified & perfected forever by the offering of the body of Jesus Christ ONCE & FOR ALL...God's will hebrews 10:10 ❤
AMEN!
Thank God for discernment! This video and the last video didn’t sit right with me. Then I seen you do videos on both. I appreciate you correcting these teachings.
Repentance is a lifestyle
Wow you are anointed Marcus, keep up the good works in Christ. I love how you always defend your point with scripture and you explain it!!!
You can’t criticize anyone when you don’t believe in the trinity.
Shoosh
Out of pure curiosity and respect where does it say the word trinity or anything about the Trinity.
@@3peas861 John 5:7
@@3peas86The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit…. The WORD doesn’t necessarily NEED to say the word TRINITY. The Trinity means that THE FATHER, THE SON and THE HOLY SPIRIT are ALL ONE. JESUSFATHERHOLYSPIRIT.
Good break down. We are suppose to hate what our Father hates and love what He loves. How can we walk in the works of darkness and walk with our Savior at once? We are neither hot nor cold, but lukewarm, and will be spit out of the body of Hamachiach. But if we "struggle" with sin, the Spirit is there to help break all strongholds and bring deliverance if we desire to be free.
They love him because he’s teaching them what they want to hear. The ones that have “itching” ears. Some foolishness, to say the least. Nothing more than a hell-fueled NOVICE!! 🏃♂️ 🏃♂️ 🏃
That is why I like you Marcus, when i was a babe in Christ, I made mistakes. Been divorce, got remarried but repented and work on my salvation with fear and trembling..
Brother you cannot work on your salvation that is a flase doctrine which is satanic respectfully
I'm not condemning but if you think you need to work ok your salvation your prolly aren't saved, you are only saved by believing, again I'm trying to help not condemn
Please realise your works do nothing and only belief gets you to Heaven
What’s very important that I’m not hearing is the power that changes us as we are walking with Christ abiding in his word it’s a cleansing agent once we have turned away from a sin that we step into have stepped into. We need God‘s power. We cannot change ourselves. We would fight a losing battle so leaning looking to God along with our will we will be successful with not seeing that sin or practicing that sin anymore. Because we are being sanctified, although positionally, we are innocent, justified, sanctified… we have to remember we are sanctified by the Spirit. God knows how to deliver the godly from out of temptation.
He gave his testimony on Delafe a while back. I don't know his heart, but I think that he may have good intentions. He seems sincere.
He just doesn't know what he's talking about.
He needs dicsipleship, badly. I wish some YT pastors would minister to him one on one.
I just dreamt that we had a strong jolt earthquake.
Marcus what do you think about Micah Turnbo?? You should do a video on em after reading his blog and fb post
I agree with Marcus 100% on this one. Either this guy is an ignorant babe in Christ or he is a deliberate false teacher who was sent to confused the masses.
It amazes me that people don’t believe “once saved always saved” the moment you confessed Jesus is your Lord and savior you are justified, sanctified, and soon to be glorified. I am no longer a sinner, and it doesn’t matter what I do as a Christian I will still go to heaven. Mind you, me doing whatever I want doesn’t mean there won’t be consequences here on earth and there will be treasures in heaven I won’t inherit but I will never go to hell because of the grace of God and He doesn’t take back what He gives you. WE only lose what God gives us and WE will Only lose our salvation if we tell God from our hearts and tongue that we no longer want Jesus Christ in our lives and truly believe it; not by sinning and not repenting.
The same way we accept Christ is the same way we can lose Christ.
I’ve never commented on a YTvid but bro… AMEN!!!! ❤️🔥💯
Aka I just wanna live how I want on earth and not go to hell.
No man can pluck you out of the father’s hands, but you can choose to fall away. Scripture just said NO MAN… This includes you!!! You can’t pluck yourself
Exactly salvation can't be lost
You can actually loose your salvation. You have a free will and God's not going to stop you to leave. It's written; Revelation 3:5 states, "The one who conquers will be clothed thus in white garments, and I will never blot his name out of the book of life.
And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Matthew 24:12
Put yourself under scripture to know what you are talking about.
@@ilonaeskolin8443thank you!
@@ilonaeskolin8443 So if a person goes through 2 Corinthians 5:17 where it says that we are new creations in Christ, and that the old has passed away. Are you saying that the new creation can fall away as well?
Matthew 7:21-23 says "21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’
23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
Notice what Jesus says here. He didn't say "I knew you and then you left me". He says "I never knew you". Which means that individual never received salvation in spite of all of the work they were doing.
@charleskentjr696 the new creation can definitely be corrupt. How do you explain the 2 scriptures away? There are more scriptures in the Word that talks about taking your salvation seriously;
Therefore, my beloved, as you have always
obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence
but much more in my absence, work out
your own salvation with fear and trembling. Phil 2:12.
Read about the 7 churches in the Book of Revelation...
Matthew 25.. The 10 virgins.. all Believers, only 5 had oil.
Because ppl are not immersed in His Word, deception is amongst those who think they have right standing with God. Noone wants to examine themselves yet eying others shortcomings.
This ain't it bro ur fruits are starting to show jealousy I think ur mad because he was in a gang and went to prison and ur like why him god I've been good I went to the military blah blah blah I like both of you guys but ur losing me with this hate towards this man I'ma pray for you Godbless 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Also, to your point, read John 8:11 regarding His Response to the woman who committed adultery. In fact, I encourage everyone to read the entire John Chapter 8, which talks about our judgement of others, when we are not perfect. Jesus made it clear, for her to go and sin no more…
It just makes me wonder, when the time comes for each and every one of us to stand before God, how many of these online ministers are really saved? The Bible does say narrow is the road. It also says not everyone who says to me Lord Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven.
We really need to study the Word to show ourselves approved because that lack of knowledge will cause us to teach falsely. Some people’s Bible are other people’s words! We need to ask God for wisdom and understanding to rightfully divide it.
On a side note, If y’all really do come into an agreement with Johnny’s teaching on this matter, why aren’t y’all going to your own pastor or your own leadership in the church and asking questions on whether that specific teaching is right instead of just believing what sounds good to your ear. What happened to accountability within your own house? Who’s your pastor!?Who’s your covering!? It’s wild out here. Stop letting so many different online ministers speak into your lives cause not everyone serves the same Jesus! I never knew you!!
Thank you Holy Spirit for speaking thru Marcus for correction. Not to the one but we the many
Marcus, pray for Dante bowe. I don’t know why I keep feeling that he needs prayer right now. I know God can bring him back and do that work of sanctification in him. Truly believe the Lords not done with him yet.
No way bro is getting subs off of sitting here talking about other people all day 😂
Marcus, it’s called Antinomianism, not once save always saved. You’re conflating two things that you do not understand.
That's like saying " once saved, always saved", and that is a dangerously heretical view!
It's not a heresy. When does anyone's kids stop being their children. Losing salvation is a newer teaching in church history.
Jesus said those the Father gave Him can't be plucked from His hand. (John 10:28-30) I believe that means we can't lose our salvation no matter what the world causes to make someone lose hope or to "turn away." Perhaps it effects what happens in heaven somehow... idk, but I am among those who say we can't lose our salvation because God knew our hearts when we accepted Jesus as Lord. I think of all the children who come to the Lord but then are NEVER discipled. They don't know how to fight nor how to grow the one-on-one relationship with the Father through Holy Spirit.
Not attacking by any means, I just felt led to share. :) Godspeed
@@CharelleWilson Some Bible verses that seem to counter the idea of "once saved, always saved" include:
1 Corinthians 6:9-11: Warns against serious sins that can keep someone from entering God's Kingdom
Galatians 5:19-21: Warns against serious sins that can keep someone from entering God's Kingdom
Matthew 24:42; 25:13: Commands Christians to "keep on the watch"
Hebrews 10:36; 12:2, 3; Revelation 2:10: Shows that those who have been saved must endure faithfully to the end
Hebrews 6:4-6: States that those who revert to Judaism crucify Christ again
1 Timothy 1:18-20: Discusses two believers who have shipwrecked their faith
If it was possible to loose our salvation we would literally loose it in 24-48 hrs. There is nothing we did to gain salvation, no man can boast as it is given by grace as stated in Ephesians. Saying you can loose your salvation is like saying you gained it by your own strength that why it’s called GRACE( undeserved kindness). If we could loose our salvation there would be no point in Jesus dying on the cross. 1st John 4:4- “But you belong to God, my dear children. You have already won the victory over those people, because the spirit who lives in you is greater than the spirit who lives in the world”…. When we receive the Holy Spirit (the spirt that rose Jesus from the dead) He is greater than our temptations. We will sin but not lose our salvation. God is the author and finished of our faith.
Once saved always saved is true because we didn’t save ourselves
För if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for
righteousness." Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt.
"Study for YOURSELF. All that really matters is that you know the truth for YOURSELF" ...typical marcus mantra
Find the contradiction in this sentence
We can do nothing. Like Paul says it’s not I but Christ that live within me. All glory goes to God nothing but salvation by his grace and mercy is giving to us. If we say we can produce works then we can eventually invite pride to enter into our hearts. Christ does all the work for us.
I believe they have jumped into taking on ministry before God say they are ready...There is a process but they aren't willing to go through..I was listening a guy the other day and he had experience God is supernatural way and after giving his testimony he was thrown into ministry that we wasnt ready for he said he had to step away for his self and also not to lead people astray, he said he wasnt ready to be doing what he was doing, and of course he was shut out by those in a particular church that was using his testimony to grow the church so in reality he was being used...So often when person comes out telling their testimony many want to profit of it...Lord Jesus Help us....