WW2 Browning Hi Power Pistol | Walk-in Wednesday
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- In this episode, Tom shows us all of the variations of the WW2 Browning Hi Power Pistol, specifically those used by the Nazi German Army. These include the variations that are slotted and not slotted on the rear strap of the gun and those with tangent sights and fixed rear sights. He also shows a very rare variation - a late-war Hi Power with a fixed, iron, rear sight AND is slotted!
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Carried an Inglis Hi Power in the army in the sixties. Loved it so much I always wanted to get one when I left. Indestructible, reliable, and accurate.
The idea of having a stock for an automatic pistol seems to have originated with the Broom Handle Mauser of around 1895 or so. The Boers used them quite extensively against the British in South Africa in the second Boer War of 1899 to 1902. There are a couple of them in the Battlefield Museum in Ladismith in the province of Kwa-Zulu Natal, where the Boers besieged the Brits for several months.
Stocked pistols have existed about as long as pistols themselves have existed, they predate the c96 by at least a good 200 years
Mauser C96 wasn't the first handgun ever to have a stock added to it, it isn't even the first semiauto pistol. The Borchardt predates it.
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I love browning high power 9 mm. My favorite one. Unfortunately I don’t own real original high power; however, I have cloning high power from turkey made Tisa BR9. Thank you for this story of about high power.
SanShweMyint i had fm hi power. Argentine made. Badboy
I have a late war browning hi-power that my Grand Dad brought back from WWII it is my most prized possession and will end up with one of my boys one day! Thanks for the information!
As a kid, we regularly shot my buddy's dad's late war hi-power that was brought back from Europe. This was good information in the video. Thanks!
Very interesting. I like the detailed manner in which you explain stuff plus the variety of pistols you display. It does make a guy want one.
this model is called le capitan,the real wooden stock was hollow and the gun fits inside,they are not that rare,lots of belgian collectors have one.i have an engraved capitan but without the wooden stock,mine is post WO II.i also have a new practical.
This was my issue sidearm in The Australian Army during the eighties, still love them to this day. Our version had the simple peep sight, however Ronnie RAAF had the tangent sight, making their Queen’s Medal Shoot Team almost unbeatable out to fifty meters. Not exactly illegal, but not Cricket.
i had one with the slot for the stock and the tangent sight, the other had iron sights. they were great guns. i worked part time for ADT to respond to break-ins. i either carried one of my Hi-Powers or one of my 1911's.
Excellent video-very informative about an iconic handgun.
As the son of a WWII vet from the ETO, I have to admit that I was unfamiliar with the High Power. In the 1973 Al Pacino movie, “Serpico”, Frank Serpico , Al Pacino’s character, wants a handgun with more firepower and ammo capacity than the J frame Smith and Wesson revolvers that the NYPD detectives were carrying in that time frame. Serpico is finding out about some of the corruption in the NYPD and doesn’t know who to trust.
The handgun that he chooses to carry is the High Power.
A side note about Herstal and Liege, Belgium. Dad’s Division, the 99th, was deployed in what was to become the northern shoulder of the Battle of the Bulge. Since it looked like the war might be over by Christmas, several US generals, Courtney Hodges , Mark Clark among others were coming to the Browning factory to be fitted for Browning Superposed shotguns. They were going about December 18th. Unfortunately for the generals, the Germans had other ideas. I don’t know if they ever got their shotguns.
My Dad was supposed to see a USO show on December 17th, 1944 with Marlene Dietrich in Liege. Since Hitler had a price on Ms. Dietrich’s head, the USO evacuated her back to England. Dad said they didn’t get a show until after the war since they were in combat almost continuously.
I have one of the German P-35 FN High-Power 9mm with fixed sights. I had to do some work on it, because it was pretty much rusty. It works like a well oiled machine and is very accurate. I use for hunting wild boar as a backup weapon.
During the 1970s in the British army (RMP), I came across several Inglis Brownings that were slotted for a stock.
@Matthew Caughey I have read/seen that information on the internet but I think those guns had Chinese stamping the ones I came across in the Army were stamped in English. Also some years ago the Chinese sold off the HPs that they had in stock and these were advertised as having Chinese stamping, at least those that came up for sale on the UK market did (its been a few years since any pistols were sold in the UK, so my memory might be wrong).
@Matthew Caughey I can't argue with much of that. The HPs in UK service did not have tangent sights but as you can see from other entries on this page some Commonwealth forces did. HK was a crown colony at the time so if the HPs were there I suspect they were on their way to the Chinese National Forces. Something similar happened with some US SMGs (M42 I think) and the Dutch East Indies.
Love me some Browning Hi-Powers !!!!!!!!! I absolutely love my fathers Browning Hi-Powers Practical in 40 S&W , sweet shooting pistol.
I love my two hps I have an FN model and a mauser clone it was my first pistol got them when I was 16 yrs old and still got em both gonna pass em down to my son ... 💪 both of mine are in 9×19 id love to shoot one in .40 S&W very cool happy shooting buddy!
Although there were several great pistols from the Second World War, I would have to rate the Browning Hi-Power as the best (yes, number 1) handgun of the conflict. By the way, Fabrique Nationale d'Armes de Guerre translates as "The National Factory of Weapons of War" into English. Thank you for posting this Tom! Well done! How about a video on the FN 1922?
I have to agree with you my friend I also think the HP is the best ww2 pistol with the colt 1911 .45 acp as a very close second
And Hi-Power as Grande Puissance (GP-35 also sometimes commonly called a Herstal, at least in some European countries)
My father got a tangent sighted Highpower out of box car full of them in North Africa in 1943. He brought it home after the war. I gave it to my nephew who will cherish it.
A friend of mine has a hi-power with stock produced in the late 30's. It was a military issue and the holster differs from the one you have. His holster had mag pouches for (30 or 32? rd) magazines.
a friend/neighbor of mine has a slotted one with the stock and holster, I remember he bought it about 10 yrs ago at a gunshow for 1800 usd. I remember because the seller would only take cash and that's about all we could come up with at the moment.
I am very proud of my 35xxx with tangent sight, slotted grip, and no waffen marks. In great shape. War prize.
Beautiful Hi powers. Ive never seen one slotted for a stock before.
Ive always wanted to get my hands on a Hi power and was heartbroken when they were discontinued a few years ago and the prices skyrocketed on the ones leftover.
they still make the GP(as we say in belgium) or the HP for the rest under license
I actually have one that is 140, a, and slotted. The stock that I got with it isn’t like the one you showed in the video. It’s a SALTU from 1945. Great review.
Sorry I meant to say it was a SALTD stock . Autocorrect.
i had two Canadian Hi-Powers, one with the sticker still on the front strap.
I admire any quality firearm..thanks for sharing
I'm buying the gun with the crappy 6 scratched into the serial number shown in this video. Cant wait!!!!!
I had belgium made browning. Could not hit too good but it was pretty
Nice presentation Tom, the Hi-Power was truly a marvel from the mind of JMB. I have the tangent sight WaA140 without the stock slot. Came with an original 41 marked holster and spare mag though so even without the stock slot I'm happy with it
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Nice collection of the evolution process and wonderful paired with the history. This video made alot more sense than any others i looked at sofar. Well done
You have an incredible amount of knowledge. Subscribed and awaiting the next video :-) Thanks for keeping history alive.
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I know someone who has an "a" series HP, matching numbers, and a matching number magazine. He bought from a man whose father got it in France during the war. It's blood stained (that's why the superstitious man sold it after his father
died ) you can clearly see the finger marks on the frame and slide. There's a blood etched finger print on the
magazine with the worls showing. The left grip was blood stained too. This grip had been reconfigured to improve handling, presumably by whoever left their blood on it. This gun handles beautifully, and is very accurate. I have shot it. The man who owns it carries it regularly to this day. If it could talk...
The Fn Browning pistol book by Anthony vanderlinden is out of print and $730.00 on Amazon! That's more than I paid for my ww2 nazi issue browning hi power!
wow. Sorry to hear that. I sold a couple boxes of them and now only have 1 left. Hopefully he will reprint.
I just got the book in. ONE copy. I can sell for $150 if you would like to contact us at Info@legacy-collectibles.com
Absolutely a fine piece..
As an NCO in Germany with the Canadian Forces during the closing years of the Cold War I was issued one of these. I assume it would have been an Inglis license-built firearm. Funny I don't recall what we had as a holster, but do fondly remember the green rope lanyard that came with it. Used to loop around your neck under combat jacket so as not to lose the thing haha. I believe they are only now being replaced with a new sidearm for the CF. A tribute to the quality of the design, but sadly also to the bureaucratic nightmare that is military procurement in Canada.
I’m very fortunate to have serial number 58345, 613 proof, tangent sight, magazine disconnect and no slot for the wood stock.
Beautiful pistols
The British didn't make the hi power in Canada. The Canadians made the hi power and the british bought them after we adopted them. Canadian factory, owned by a Canadian.
What's a FN 9mm HiPower with Nazis stamps on it worth? Not slotted and no tangent sight. Not original grips, someone went Patton on it and added pearl grips.
could be between 1800-2800 US $
Fabrique nationale d’armes de guerre in English means National Factory of firearms of war for any curious person wondering
I have a Browning Hi-Power pistol and the first letter in the serial number: L .... it made in Belgium or Hungarian ?? Thank you
I got 2 of the charles daly versions, assembled in portugal of fn belgian parts (LOL)
500m. is ambitious, it'd be like .22lr at that range..
I knew an American WW2 vet in the 70s,who had a "liberated" HP from a NAZI officer. I Should have tried to buy it off of him but didn't like it cos it WASN'T a "Luger". (Stupid me)
Great vid, good explainations and also very good pictures & close-ups.
I ask myself though, why did the Nazis continue to produce a high amount of Walther P38 while they could have more or less easily replaced their production for the superior high power ? Its main advantage would be, in my eyes, that it doesn't have a fragile slide prone to cracking. Is it because of a rational decision or because of deals & cronyism (the brother Walther being close to some nazi leaders) ?
same reason why de americans made their 1911 with 7 shots,because its made in their own country thats why they liked walther and mauser and luger
Hope you'll do a video on the Browning HP pistols that have Chinese characters on them.
That last one had a proof on the frame and the slide, right above the slide release.
A pistol that hasn't been in any ww2 game yet...
Tom I do have variation 2 and 3 Nazi Hi powers, and one after war production with serial number 568XX. I know it was manufactured before 1954, bit can't find exact year.
BTW I have purchased a few pistols from you.
Sorry. I don't have the post war production serial numbers, but Im sure the factory records would be available.
Is the one I found 'dated 89 worth anything?? Cool video
Your information and videos are excellent an I do not miss one. However early in this one you mention that Belgium and France were invaded by the Germans. Correct, but you forgot to mention Luxembourg (Grand Duchy of) was invaded as well on April 10,1940 and appended to the 3rd Reich. The Battle of the Bulge starting Dec 1944 took mainly place in the Ardennes of Luxembourg. Brgds.
You are correct. I skipped Luxembourg. Sorry. Beautiful Country. And I enjoyed my visit there.
armand j.n. Wallendorf Netherlands fits that list
Great video, very informative.
Tom very informative video as usual! What caliber were these chambered ?
9mm luger
9mm luger
THANK YOU FOR THE 411😁😎 I have a late WWII P-35. It has a letter suffix but not sure if it is a or b because it has been reblued. It has a replacement barrel, walnut grips and magazine. I did get it for what I thought was a GOOD PRICE ($500). 😁. IS THAT A GOOD PRICE got it about 7-8 years ago?
Would a type of this magazine be made for the Bursa Plus in the 15 round 380 acp in the near future ?
wow another great video. i realy like the hi power. to bad we have so strict gun laws here in norway. im in the process og getting a 9mm . but need to se what kind of gun i find and like.
Great video, thank you!
Love your videos, love your commentary and knowledge on these awesome firearms! (Not too crazy about your muzzle discipline though)
There is no Radom pistol. You mean Vis 35 made in Radom. All polisch guns have Radom stamp. There are Vis mod 30 and 32 also. Please use correct name and this name is a big VIS on the grip, not small stamp on the slide.
Can you tell anything about the MR stamp on your late '41 or early '42 FN? (Stamp on the trigger guard)
I had one in my hands with the WaA 140 stamps and the 500m rearsight but was wondering what the "MR" on the trigger guard stands for.
Would be glad if you could help me, because i couldn't find any reliable information about that so far. (What i found was saying something about a french prove mark)
The belgian workers of FN sabotaged the weapons they were building for the germans to such an extend that the germans had to bring their own workers (foremen), that resulted in sabbotaged machines. The belgians made quite an effort in that, many things were very clever sabotaged that they brake in the field, but not in testing, for example bad tempering of steel or too little tolerances in some places so that the smallest bit of outside-dirt blocked the mechanism or it only worked with the one kind of testing ammunition they got etc etc They went really creative. Don't know about the high powers in particular, what I read was mainly about machine guns, but this one looks absolutely awesome.
do you have a good resource on verifying german marked hi powers? i recently bought one i believe is a bring back. it has marking on frame and slide but was sadly seems reblued and the controls were gold plated. was this a rather common thing done?
Damon christopher it has a wa140 marking on slide and frame and on the front along with a german eagle. it has a non matching barrel and no magazine disconnect
Interesting, I have one with the 613 proof, the tangent sights, but no slot. 58345 Serial Number. Assuming it's quite rare.
I have one in very similar condition with a b-suffix. Same rough finish, wood grips, all matching numbers. Not slotted.
I am trying to date mine, Serial # is 97356a on the slide, and 97365b on the lower, the only proofs I can see are on the bottom but are hard to make out, maybe a dr, and a half moon. they look more like symbols, on the mag well bottom. it has the Fabrique NAtionale D'armes on the slide, no slot on the mag well for the stock. It has the fixed sights up top. Internal Extractor, and wood grips. I have pics
Mismatched gun but made in 1944 and the proof would be WaA140.
I brought one in excellent shape that was contracted to Chinese General Cheing Kai Check KMT in 1937. It has Tangent sight and slot for wooden shoulder holster stock. I had another post war for S. American government with tangent sight and slot for wooden shoulder holster stock. The slot for S. American police contract the slot will not fit the the wooden stock made for Canadian!
I have a German officers browning ..WW2 .. captured with holster :
Pistol built in second Belgium build after German capture ..
Serial number shows build with wood grips !!!
And adjustable sights !!!
Where this guns ever made with a selector to fullauto?
I believe. Not from the factory. Im sure they have been modified by people but Im not aware of any made in full auto
@@LegacyCollectibles thanks for the reply, i have seen someone here on youtube that had one and shot it in fullauto and i was just curious. Thanks again.
Do they have data on what numbers were issued to what units? I have a 55,xxx waa163. I know it was either SS or the paratroopers, but curious if there is a more detailed document depicting the distribution
As far as I know there are no such records. The Germans destroyed all records at the end so that the Allies would not be able to track down gun or come after soldiers after the war.
No, JMB DID NOT design the first prototype of what became the FN P35. That was Diedonne Saive; he modified FN's existing Model 1903 to work with the double stack magazine he invented to start with. JMB initially wanted nothing to do with the project and he was back home 8n America at the time.
When the French rejected that initial prototype vand specified it must also have a locking breech design, FN shipped the prototype and Saive's magazine to JMB and asked him to have a go, He sent FN and the French two different designs; both striker fired. One was a blowback design the french had already said they wouldn’t accept and the other had a rotating bolt head sum8lar to the later M16.
The French rejected both as they had Saive's initial prototype. JMB sold the patents for his designs to Winchester and went back to working on the design of his Superposed shotgun, dying less than two years later.
France wandered off to design their new handgun for themselves; Saive spent the next10÷ years working on his design until eventually the Belian military took an interest in the Grande Rendemant version. With changes that they requested, what we now know as the FN P35 went into production.
JMB had about as much to do with designing the Browning High Power as he did with the earlier Baby Browning pistol. It wasn't marketed as the Browning High Power until Browning's son Val started what is now Browning USA and started importing FN pistols, shotguns and rifles (and the rifles at times were made by Sako and now Miroku).
FN knew/knows you could never go wrong attaching JMB's name to guns you wanted to sell to Americans!
Does anyone know what the "MR" on the front of trigger guard stands for? any info would be much appreciated
I have an 'a' suffix occupation High Power that has no Waffenamts anywhere, but all the other inspection marks (i.e, MR on the trigger guard and barrel). Any idea as to why that is?
I have a Browning hi-power afternoon in my serial number on the silver part is just 526. Underneath that it's 526 again and underneath that above the trigger it's a 526. They're symbols on both sides but no of those W marks or Nazi Flags or Eagles or anything like that.
Which book do you show on begining of video
FN Browning Pistols by Anthony Vanderlinden
Still looking for one.
What are the purpose of the three holes on the slide?
Two holes on the side and one hole on top?
Serpico use hi power bro
I have one they only had a526 above the trigger, and 526 above that on the silver part. How rare are these?
What is the purpose of indentation on the side of the slide?
i have a third variation has all matching numbers barrel slide frame the pistol has the 2 small eagles holding swastika on left side But no wa140 anywhere except for on the barrel which you cant see unless you remove barrel what does that mean? all ones i see have the waa140 in front below barrel and on the side of pistol is something wrong or is it fake maybe?
BOY SHIT HOWDY 19 DISLIKE HOW'S THAT EVEN POSSIBLE
Güzel makine severim
John browning inventing DOUBLE STACK WONDER 9s in the 20s.....
The genius John was , but savage made a. 32 staggered magazine pistol in ,I think was 1909
Wrong on both counts.
@@AirborneMOC031 hi power?
@@BOB-wx3fq That's right. No question JMB was a genius, but he had about as much to do with the original concept and/or development of the FN P35 as he did with the invention and development of the earlier Baby Browning that FN also attached his name to.
He submitted two concepts after the French rejected Saive's original prototype. Both were striker fired, one a blowback design and the other a rotating bolt. The French rejected those as well.
That was the end of JMB's involvement. He sold the patents for those two designs to Winchester and went back to working on his Superposed shotgun until his death a little less than two years later..
Putting a stock and a flip up leaf sight seems like a rather silly idea for a handgun since the most you could expect from one of these is about 100m. It is pure folly to think you could hit someone at 500m with a handgun. If you can't hit a man sized target with a pistol off hand at 100m you have no business shooting one.
I never tried 500m, but have and can at 275m.
@@vvt7825 At that range, the energy is so low that is not effective. From a combat veteran, why on earth would engage an ememy at that range when you have a _rifle_ to do the job. As for a civilian, under what circumstances would you _need_ to engage someone at that range? They are most likely _not_ a threat to you. Step into the _real world_
I have one of these. It's a 9 mm. Has the Nazi symbol on it. I'd like to sell it. It's not slotted
We would be a buyer. Contact us at info@legacy-collectibles.com
woodstock :-)
As a matter of course, why don't you wear gloves when handling these firearms? It shows respect.
pistol strong. 22/10/2022
Hi capacity more like
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not browning FN Herstal, designer dieu donné Saive
Brownings my nothing to do with this gun it is
The work of Dieudonné Saive, Browning
Did not work at Fn but in the Browning factory, a subsidiary
From the Fn group like today Winchester
In reality Winchester did not invent anything he had
Lost his mind, Paul Mauser worked for 3 years
Dear FN, he invented quality weapons
Which explains the work of the prisoners of
War for the development of the MP 44
perhaps an email or phone number? i have a High Power ser # E04055 any idea what year it was made? i've tried many different web sites and can't find a thing
P35 FN Herstal Dieu Donné Saive concepteur
pistol strong and butefol. 6/7/2021 .خالد