WWII German Handguns: Luger, Walther P38, Vis/Radom, Browning Hi-Power
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From Season 1 of TAC-TV, Ken and I discuss some of the most influential and famous German WWII handguns including the P08 Luger, Walther P38, and the Vis (Radom) as well as the Browning Hi-Power
germans got the coolest weapons, the luger is so great, it looks like a little hand cannon lol one of my favourites
German engineering during that time was the marvel of the world. Ally propaganda has distorted so much.
I Love the „knielader“
It's my dream gun I plan on buying a black widow luger and use it as my regularly at the shooting range it's such a beautiful gun I'd probably have 2 1 for display and another for carrying.
@@bluedogviking00 do not use a luger for self defense. The action doesn't like spicy 147 grain ammo, may struggle to feed hollow points, and it's a historical piece. Also in the event you do use it, it'll be taken in for evidence, marked up by the police, and possibly not come back to your hands.
It was a cool and well made gun at the turn of the century, but there are far better and cheaper options today.
@@kanchou7698 I meant I'd bring it to the shooting range regularly I plan on buying 2 one that I'd never shoot that's more expensive and keep on display then the other one I'd like for the shooting range I plan on collecting alot of old weapons from ww1, ww2 and other guns from wars in the 1900s I'd buy 2 of each just like the pistol. The reasoning like all these old guns is becauseive had family in almost every main war even in different countries. I know I wouldn't use it as a self defense weapon I'd probably buy a glock or something I'd rather be safe then have an old gun that's more likely to jam especially because where I live its dangerous and I'd want to be able to protect my family in a worse case scenario.
I never realized how modern the p38 looks without the long barrel
yeah looks like some miniature carry pistol
Even p08 would look modern without the long barrel
The P38’s modern counterpart is the Beretta M9, which has a similar locking block short recoil system and an open top slide.
@@gameragodzilla Yep, and the only significant functional change was the mag release.
Yeah the Beretta 92 series is essentially the modern version of it .
The Luger is so aesthetically beautiful. Seems fairly reliable too.
With new springs and army-style +P ammo it is extremely reliable in all conditions. It does not like low powered ammo.
Check out the InRange mud test!
Never felt comfortable with the grip angle. Supposed to feel natural, in my mind only if you are deformed.
@@gustavmeyrink_2.0I mean why would you want low powered ammo anyways, might as well go with the good stuff
@@mothmagic1 Since everybody els loves the grip angle may be you are deformed.
It is amazing to see how a pistol invented in 1900 is still awesome even today, after 120 years. Great quality can last for centuries.
That is a hell of a mustache
I couldnt look away from it lol
Hell of a stupid mustache.
abracing199 yessssss lol
Lol i was about to comment about that too😂
That's serious.
My grandfather picked up a Luger from a dead soldier and still has it till this day with bullets.
I thought you couldn't bring back enemy weapons to the states?
Transistor Express in ww2 it was OK. my grandfather did the same has a luger (100% complete with matching extra mag and holster) . it is an incredible piece of history. I'm sure you honor and cherish it as I do.
loud american i'm sure i would, hell if i even went to world war 2 my self i'd make sure to bring back a few mp-40's and k98's with me. :D
But beware! Those guns were not "for free"! Could cost your life trying to get one ... :D
Logan Polomny smuggled in his ass?
Damn, I love me a Luger!
What's with that nazi bullshit on your picture?
Vit Varg Nazis are my problem, bitch. The only idiot is the one advocating for fascism.
Vit Varg More like semi-socialism
Vit Varg +cascorgi lmao yall funny
michael holt ye
the P-08 is a amazing gun it does not jam. it was only replaced cause its price!
glad you referred to the army as the "Wehrmacht" and not "nazis"
Frost 101 Im sick of the negativity against german warriors myself.
Well if you want to be technical the Wehrmacht was the entire armed forces including the heer (army) Luftwaffe (air force) and kriegsmarine (navy).
Well that's because they weren't Nazis actually in fact most of the German army didn't like what was going on within the SS,Gestapo & Einsatzgruppen that's what actually led to the operation Valkyrie the Germans started to get a clue on what was really happening and alot of em didn't care for it..but that's not to say some German soldiers actually did participate in some really really fucked up shit
@@UnderFried The SS wasn't a party Shutzstaffel translates into secret service basically Hitler's/Goring/Himmler's bodyguard not a party that's just like saying the Einsatzgruppen were a party they weren't they were death squads
@@robertblake7824 This is revising history a little. The Nazi Party was the elected government of Germany. It's not like they were a fringe group that came to power in a coup. I have no idea how the German military people voted, or even if they voted since military men tended to want to remain apolitical, but to think that a majority of Germans didn't back the Nazi party is silly. Look at the elections in 1933 even before the Enabling Act passed. The Nazis held an easy plurality in parliament
Knowing his history in the Army, It's a privilege to get to watch Mr. Vickers shoot these German handguns. Brings these guns new life to have real operators evaluating and shooting these wonderful weapons, especially the Luger (that Hi Power is sweet too, I have one with the markings, but most of the finish is gone, but I think it adds character to it, imagining some FJ or W-SS soldier was carrying it around).
I also saw the Stg44 video, and I just want to say thank you for taking the time to highlight these truly historic weapons.
I loved my P1(P38). i was trained on this pistol in 2002. I can say, i had more fun, accuracy with this gun as later with the P8! I miss the P1
What? Trained? For ww2?
@@thewhitedeath586 The P1/P38 saw service in the German army up to 2004
Really? I hated it (in 1989). Comrade once said "If I throw it then at least I will hit something." Couldn't agree more. In basic training (Grundausb.) we had some MP2 (Uzi) and with them one was able to score +110 of 120 points - at least if one wasn't cross-eyed ;-) Was waaay before the introduction of the P8. But I hated G3, too. And loved MG3. You could cut trees with that thing.
@@blackcathardware6238 Thanks for the insight, very interesting!
@@blackcathardware6238 i used the g3 and its being held down by its ammo and size, due to USA hegemony and insistence on nato to use its own ww2 designs. all full sized battle rifles are shit by design (expect for a designated marksman). if g3 was more compact and used 8mm kurz ammo it would have been a great gun still, and maybe have a g3 family with full sized mgs and marksman rifles like we already have but make the infantry rifle an assault rifle
I really love when you and Ken are testing the weapons and are talking about them.
1943 P38 inherited from my WWII veteran dad when he died in 84. Mine is byf code (Mauser).
Vis pistols captured during September 1939 became marked as Pistole 645(p), these later produced were marked as Pistole 35(p). Beautiful classic handgun :)
love the luger, my dad has one and it just feels good in the hand even though its missing part of the grip cover..
Beautiful Polish ViS
Nasz ViS
Mhm. Some guy said the VIS is a German pistol. Lol
@@operator_hoodie XD idk why. But its polish gun
where is the C96?
That's mainly ww1
+x20Dankshots Yes but like ww1 era Luger the c96 saw a fair share of action in ww2 and in wars after
They replaced it with the Polish Radom :/
at 1:08 he says specifically "9mm handguns"
StraightOuttaSlothton where is the glock
Excellent video! I have a deep respect for all 4 of those firearms. I recently fired a p08 and hi power for the first time. I found the hi power to be very accurate and fun to shoot. The p08 is a work of art and has a funky action. Thanks for making this video and sharing your knowledge of these fine war horses.
Germans got class. I love my people!
Daniel Paul Debs yah with a class 3 lisence u can own your very own slingshot
But if you're an Aussie, your people FOUGHT the Germans !
Items. Are you asking me or trying to tell me? Just because you can't own a 50 cal sniper rifle and you cant buy ammo in a supermarket, doesn't mean you can't own firearms in Aus.
Spaceebo. So what, that was 80 years ago! Get present. And "Australia" didn't fight the Germans, the "British Empire" who owned 25% 0f the earths geography, and were the largest imperialist dictators, fought the Germans. The 2nd WW was caused by the selfishness of the whole world. Not by Germany. And I can qualify that if you want me to.
Guido Ahsam ???? I’m Australian we have what ever we want just have the permit I own AR15/ M14s a original Luger glocks you name it and I also have a collection license so I have automatics. $128 and can have suppressors cheaper then the US
I hear this regularly with German made products 'so high quality that was hard to keep production' German seems to be obsessed with quality and I am too, your is the only video which talked about the quality. I love German, japanese, Swiss and Finnish made goods.
@@derekakaderek agree yet there is something about good quality.
The Canadian Army still uses the Browning High-Power! Crazy how long some guns, particularly pistols are in service for.
Because there's no way to really upgrade it it's already good enough
@@LeeRenthlei Hell yeah brother
The P38(P1) is still in use in the german military today!
First pistol I ever fired in the army. Had a few pass through my hands, still have one.
Loving the steady stream of wicked content good sir!
that mustache is fkn epic
Ja
For me, the German Luger 9mm, is the best design by far hand gun to point and shoot. The gun just naturally aims like pointing your finger. P38...amazing firearm. Luger best of all.
You should do more segments like this. Quality work.
My father as a teenager had Parabellum 08 until 1953. Thanks for VIS ;-)
Interesting and well done. I remember back in the 80s when some company was going to bring back the Luger, and I questioned that for all I had every heard and read about it. "Ammo sensitive", yeah it jams. P-38, fantastic design, I really respect it. I didn't realize the Germans used Browning High Powers to the extent you infer they did. Wow, how ironic. I LOVE the Browning High power. I was my first handgun purchase.
P-38. By far. The perfect weapon to be turned into a double stack magazine.
sam heller ppkrk
P38 is a great gun my grand grand father took one from SS officer during "43 in ex Yugoslavia.I can still shoot bottle on 40 meters with him.Awesome pistol!!!
Poor bottle
I know a guy that has one (P-38) with Nazi insignia, very cool
Nice to see some old stuff in good quality!
I like the presentation. I like the mustache. I like the guns. What I don't like is, the missing Fräuleins!
and the missing Walther PPK! Instead they have a Browning wtf!
In German the "th" is pronounced like a "t". So the name Walther should be pronounced like the Christian name Walter.
Carl Napp But since the "W" is like a "V", it shouldn´t be pronounced like the Christian name Walter (at least the English Walter)
aurvandil
Regionalisms, I guess? I am being told that Germans from the North speak rather differently from the Germans of the South. Or it can just be the influence of English.
UnitedForces257
Not bad your thinking!
But I hope you don't mind,
I'm afraid that regional idioms or influenced idioms have nothing to do with it.
There is a generally binding grammar.
If you watch old films for instance, the pronunciations in "Hochdeutsch" ( equivalent to the former "BBC's English" or the "Queen's English" ) were exactly as they are today.
I didn't want to make a fuzz of it in the first place.
I just thought he who admires a P38 or a P1
- which undoubtedly are outstanding guns - ought to know how to pronounce the maker's name.
Cheers
UnitedForces257 You are welcome.
Also a large difference from north Poland to south Poland.
Love the accurate to the era one handed pistol hold.
To be correct, VIS was not a German pistol, but Polish. It was produced since 1936 in Radom (Polish city). The pistol was named firstly WiS. those where the first surname letters of its 2 constructors Wilniewczyc and Skrzypinski. After German army invaded Poland they overtook the production of the pistol and have later moved the production facility to Austria.
+Robert Oliński They said it
AlexSZ241 Correct :)... I have been fooled by the headline of the vid :) "WWII German Handguns..."
You look like a testicle
Dude he said it was a polish weapon that the Nazis captured
And so it became a German WWII handgun. The headline is correct.
The HiPower - which actually was the Belgian FN HiPower, did not originate in Germany either, but it was produced in the occupied countries for and used by the Germans during the war.
The VIS look beautiful and slim me like one.
I miss the Astra 600, this gun also was in in service of the Wehrmacht from 1942 to the end.
I have always liked tje wz. 35, its so beautiful.
the*
yes, it is(:
The p38 was the service gun in the Portuguese military until very recently,
What about the C96 ''Broomhandle''?
They covered that in the video - they just wanted weapons that actually were used. And the c96 just wasnt.
+obiwanfisher537 they did use C96 in war, in Stalingrad German army use it against the soviet soldier who take cover in buildings.
Yeah, as far as I know the C96 was used to some extent atleast. I mean it's known for being the first ever massproduced pistol for the German army, right?
+Sean Zhu I meant that the weapon was used BUT in so little numbers that its not worth mentioning it.
obiwanfisher537 possible.
Seeing the thumbnail had me excited thinking at first Lifesizepotato was back posting videos. Not disappointed at all after watching this video.. very informative. Great job as always Larry and Ken!
that's the best stash i've ever seen in my life!
You clearly haven't seen many mustaches in your live ;) But I agree, his stash is majestic
Ken's precision mustache completely dominated this video. He's rocking it high and tight.
What's with the thumb-sticking-up shooting grip? Is that the pistol shooting equivalent of taking a drink while extending the pinkie finger?
0:45 what a tactical way to go for a handshake
You never know when he might attack
These guys are awesome, that guy with the mustache is hero 👍🏼
My first viewing of your videos. Excellent. Thank you.
The hi-power is a beautiful pistol
The Luger is a fine pistol. The sights aren't even that terrible, if you're used to them.
I am surprised that after you decided to do the Walther P08 that you did not also do the "Broomhandle" Mauser C96 which was also a WWI firearm that carried over into WWII and was carried by many Wermacht officers.
Unlike the guns here the C96 was never formally adopted by the German army. The famous Red 9 was a kind of inofficial supply because it was available. It was however a very successfully exported, Winston Churchill is on record as having said that he owed his life to his C96 which he carried during the 1898 campaign in Sudan.
Radom is the town where the factory that made the gun existed. The company is know as Fabryka Broni Radom (Weapons Factory Radom). In Poland the gun is just called the VIS 35.
I like how the length of the video is 9:18
Well done video. Facts, no bs or agenda. Thanks for posting.
Larry, is there a chance that you will post some of the older stuff like segments from tactical arms on here?
We are working on putting a lot of the older material on here. We will post segments from Tactical Impact soon.
Begetter 85f
this mans mustache can't decide whether it wants to be a beard or not. good video.
I think the Hi-Power would be the most influential. Double stack mag, inclined plane method of locking.
your channel has the most various guns and histories ,in addition to very professional comment . i love your channel
I hope he was not using the Luger sights. That pistol was not design for that. They where made just to point and shoot. The Luger fits in your hand perfectly.
If you can see the sights, they help greatly in shooting accurately (aim small . . . there's no other way to aim a Luger). The two guns that are most often described as fitting perfectly, like an extension of your arm, like pointing your finger, are the Luger and Peacemaker, and the only gun I can think of that's less natural than those two is the Lahti!
They were made to get real close to the back of someone’s head and pull the trigger!
My great uncle was a bomber pilot in the luftwaffe, when the war ended he tried to escape from the us military and before he did that he buried his p38 in the garden which now belongs to my grandmother. It just freaks me out that there is a walther p38 in her garden, I want it so bad but digging it out and getting it back to function causes a massive load of trouble with the german law.
It really is not hard to get a gun licence in Germany but you will have to store it either at a shooting club or get an approved gun safe and register it with the serial number. There are millions of guns in private ownership.
I just wonder if the Luger the Walther P38 the Radom/Vis and the Browning Hi-Power are going to be in Battlefield V
I know a veteran of 32 Battalion who preferred to use his personal Walther P38 as his sidearm, instead of the Star pistols the SADF normally issued to officers.
*Switching to your pistol is always faster then reloading*
Great episode
What do you mean by “ammo sensitive”?
Oh, welcome to basic firearm warfare, let me be your guide:
Lets put it simply, there are different kinds of gunpowders, some are high power, some are low. Some powders provides enough gas, fast enough to make the gun's mechanism work. Some powders are so strong, it may break the gun. Some powders are too weak that gun cant cycle and feed the bullet to it's chamber.
This is what ammo sensitive is.
"Perfect guns" are generally either weak and fragile, or ammo sensitive, or gets easily jammed in different situations like rain, dust etc.
Luger is not a weak or fragile. It's does not easily jammed in mud or dust. But since its a handmade handgun and has really complicated mechanism, simple mistakes while manifacturing can make huge negative impact. Also you can't mass produce for these reasons.
1911 other hand, is the grandfather of modern handguns, is being used for more than a century. It's considerably simpler and cheaper gun. But because it's simpler it's much better for longer and wider wars.
Greese gun smg is simpler than Thompson.
Ak47 is simpler than M16.
1911 is simpler than Luger.
They are not better for self defence, but they are much more reliable. Which is what you need in wars. Not perfection, but trustworthy mediocrity.
Of course you can buy really expensive and reliable 1911s . But it was not the reason 1911 was popular in army in the first place
I have a Walther P38 from WWII. I got it from my Great Grandpa. It looks amazing and in great shape.
This VIS Radom is a polish gun. When German take over Poland in 1939, they continue production in Radom - polish city where was factory of this gun. I know that in this film is that question explane, but i think the title must change on exemple guns that German used i WWII . Sorry for my english.
germay also produced the in austria. since the vis is only a copy of a 1911 everyone who makes them can claim them.
Make mine the High Power. No contest. High capacity, fast to deploy, superior ergonomics. The Radon is great but it’s a 9 mm on a 1911 .platform
The Luger is one of the most price souveneir of WWII.
And WWI.
Yea I know I got a 1916 luger I've been trying to get rid of it for $500 I wish I knew where to sell mines
I own two WW2 Lugers both numbers matching one has a numbers matching magazine which is really rare. Both are S42’s and shoot perfect. This is the only gun as soon as you hold it feels perfect just like a 1911. The Luger to me has the best point ability of any gun ever made. Just a piece of art and will only go up in value over time.
Mr. Vickers in the opening scene of this video it appears you are a left eye dominate pistol shooter??? If so could you do a video on left eye dominance with some tips on shooting this way. Thank-you.
What about the Mauser C96?
45 still the best close range fighting
You forgot the mauser C96
Vis is Polish handgun, it's better copy of Colt 1911, and Germans only take this guns from Polish factories in WWII. I'm Polish so i know about that
no dokładnie o tym mówi gość podczas filmiku więc o co kaman??? A jak coś to naziści produkowali go też w Austrii jesteś Polakiem więc powinieneś wiedzieć
They literally said that in the video.
I got the Luger in .22, I did clean it every time cause it was my father's gun. I shoot it several times but it doesnt cycled well. and sometimes it doesnt fire.
The Luger is fantastically accurate. This test does not illustrate what it is capable of it. I accept of course that you are replicating a test from a different era.
In it's time it was frequently used as a target pistol. A popular upgrade was a heavier barrel which also improves the looks a little bit.
Very interesting history. Must be fun to run them thru their paces!
I'm simple man from Poland I see vis I click
Thanks for the video
Need to do a three paper history about the luger
I own a lot of guns but my grampas old perfect condition Hi-Power is a prized possession.
You must be arrested for illegal arms smuggling 🤣
ViS 9mm originally produced in Poland in FB Radom (Fabryka Broni Radom). Radom is a city where production of weapons is taking place including reborn ViS100, MSBS 5.56 Grot, Beryl 5.56. Regards from Poland 🇵🇱👍
Yes, this is true 👍🏼
The ppk 32cal saw a considerable amount of use on the front line by the german army in WW 2.
As did the 38 acp/9mm corto....but I was expecting the full testing of the firearms as mentioned, not just the parabellum 08.
Gorge Luger invented the toggle mech but was refined by others...
Luger is the generic term.
Parabellum 08 pistol is the official name.
I miss the Luger.
Respect for germans 🍷🍾
... for stealing Polish guns.
Mr. Nobody Wow, that the only polish gun germans ever took. Germans made thousand of guns and we dont care for your VIS. We got better stuff.
@Geralt Avalon
What about e.g. Browning Hi-Power?
Mr. Nobody My point was that germans invented so many things, you cant just say "they only steal" because its just not true. You get me?
@Geralt Avalon
But who said that "they only steal"?
Another awesome video Larry. I really enjoy the videos where You and Ken get together and give your analysis on, and shoot weapons from the past. Any chance you will be doing a video on the Sauer 38? I know they were widely used by the Fallschirmjäger in WWII, and I am very curious having never handled one personally.
The BHP was more influential, the P38 inspired the 92FS and nothing else really.
Amazing Content !!!
Mauser C96 :'(
The C96 was technically a carbine.
I have a 1943 Radom in nice condition, but the barrel is too worn. Are new barrels available?
I HAVE THAT EXACT GUN. AC42 P38 WITH BROWN BAKELITE GRIPS
Luger and p38 are pieces of art
"Radom" is name of city in Poland. It is NOT name of this gun!!!
kurwa
Yeah we know but when somebody in the west says a Radom pistol everyone knows what it is
Indeed
Yes true, but name of this pistol is Vis 35
It always bugged me that the luger safety scratched the gun when flipped back and forth . Such perfect gun you would think they would have addressed that issue
Browning HP and the Radom: spoils of war.
One known piece of info: Oberst Claus von Stauffenberg (key architect of the July 20th plot) used a Browning Hi-Power and had a fixed prostethic hand which was specifically made for chambering the pistol.
Luger P08, Walther P38, Walther PP, Walther PPK, Mauser C96, Mauser M712
- Captured -
VIs/Radom, FN Browning HI-POWER, Colt M1911, Colt M1911A1, Tokarev TT33, Lahti L35, CZ27
Radom is pronounced "RAH-dom". It's a city between Warsaw & Kielce.
Thanks Larry really informative video. Had no idea about the captured factory's
Well I guess we all know where the Radom got it’s influences from… I actually thought it was a M1911 for a minute, until they zoomed in on the emblem.
It's a fun fact that the Walther P38 was inspired by the KD Danuvia, which was a hungarian pistol from the 1920s, but it was never mass produced, it only had ~20 models.
10/10 good trigger discipline
They just look amazing