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- Alphys is actually awesome, and in this Undertale character analysis video, I hope to show why she's Undertale's most grounded, relatable, and one of the most nuanced characters in the game. After over six years, it's time to give our lizard nerd some overdue love!
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0:00 - Introduction
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Cool vid
Just want to say putting glitchtale is a bit unfair as sans dies before
@@breakdowngamingthesexy Yeah, but Sans comes back and his death isn't handled as a fridging. With Alphys, it's bury your gays on top of fridging, on top of her being sidelined *hard* in favor of Gaster and dying in the only episode she has a speaking part in, and it's pretty emblematic of problems in the fandom where Alphys is diminished in favor of Gaster or Sans as the science character. It rubbed me the wrong way, and don't mean to attack the creator, I also know she's of the mind that Alphys didn't even write all of the true lab reports/do all of the experiments, so it's hard not to be a bit cynical about her treatment. Horrortale's treatment of Alphys is another example, tho (though like w/ Camila, I got nothing personal against Sour Apple Studios).
please stop calling it "crosstale"
@@nechrosmaosx4297 Look, I got confused because the Sans is called "Cross" and a lot of media (specifically games and anime) use "X" as a fancy way to say "cross." No need to be rude about it.
I’m surprised how Flowey never mentions Alphys, considering she is responsible for his existence. I imagine he doesn’t like her very much.
He mentions her if you do Papyrue and Undyne's hangouts, and finish Alphys' dates
remember that flowey’s seen and done absolutely everything the world’s had to offer. it’s likely he just got bored of her. he doesn’t mention undyne either. he only really talks about papyrus, sans, and his parents, and even then it’s kept brief. everyone else he likely got tired of and just stopped caring.
@@brianco28 I think there is an Easter egg in the Lab. If you look inside the trash, you’ll find a note which says something along the lines of “I know what you did” in scribbly writing. Many people, including myself, thinks that flowey wrote the note. So he probably still has a grudge on Alphys. Even after all those resets, he still does this.
He only mentions a couple of characters, the most interesting ones
@@rompevuevitos222 L
One thing I'm happy you clarified in this video is the fact that Alphys is canonically bi, not lesbian. Like the way I've seen people get actually mad at her initially having a crush on Asgore instead of Undyne in Deltarune is certainly frustrating when if you actually pay attention outside of fanon content, she clearly has a crush on both Asgore and Undyne, but Undyne just happens to be who she ends up with. I'm not even a bi person but I know many people who would probably consider that bi erasure, and it sucks to see in a fandom that's typically pretty good at handling LGBTQIA+ issues. I get headcanoning a character as something else, that's fine. But when you push your headcanon onto others, that's when it becomes a problem.
Bi erasure is a real problem, not only in fandoms, but in general. I don't get why people get so uncomfortable w/ the idea of someone having attraction to multiple genders. o_o It doesn't undermine any of their attractions to any gender.
@@Dorked Yeah, people seem to only assure characters are gay or straight these days. I also see an issue a lot in fandoms where people make gay characters have homosexuality as their whole personality. We need more acceptance of all sexual preferences, espeically Bi, Pan, and Ace, and generally better and less one note representation in media.
@@wandereringshadow8658 what’s Ace?
@@Dorked Hey! Been loving Inverted Fate!
Also, thank you for not erasing me. Holy smokes do I feel validated.
Also, seriously, thanks for this video. Alphys deserves better.
@@Zarkai_09 ace is short for asexual, a term used to describe people who do not feel/experience sexual attraction. (It can be more complicated than that depending on the person, but that's the basics)
I once saw someone say Alphys was the most relatable character in the game, followed by someone saying "you experimented on people and made them die???" or, at least, basically that. Which, even as someone who's not the biggest fan of hers, I knew that was the stupidest possible takeaway. But she's grown on me through the years, and this video definitely made me appreciate her as a character more.
The thing is, that's not even what she did? O_o The monsters were already dying. Asgore instructed her to experiment on them. if anything, she "saved" them. Obviously not without complications, but they are happy in the epilogue.
@@Dorked I’m not sure if I’d call the existence of the amalgamates a “good” thing though
I don't know why people keep saying Alphys experimented on people. What happened was the equivalent of people donating their bodies to science after death, it's completely common and normal.
It's not like anyone expected those monsters to actually wake up.
@@matti.8465 Yes, but they're kinda always in incredible pain and are disordered, something that people here are ignoring
Not saying Alphys is evil, but they're not exactly perfect, which is something Alphys themselves expresses in True Pacifist.
Her largest blunders have been
1) Faking making a new Monster from nothing, that being Mettaton is just possessed, and not a new Monster (although she did succeed with Flowey but that was just Asriel's essence latching onto something with Determination)
2) Flowey
3) Testing the DT experiment on literally ALL the monsters she was handed
That's about it.
Also can we discuss how Flowey exactly exists?
Asriel's dust spreads over the flowers, whatever essence was left of him after his soul was shattered, apparently chose a single flower, which at that point, wasn't sentient. Somehow, because of having the essence of a Monster, it grows faster. Alphys then chooses that flower, and revives Asriel???? Because the Flower probably wouldn't have come to life if it didn't have Asriel's essence??? Probably?
Asriel's soul, along with Chara's, is shattered, gone.
Now apparently, a being that strong, still lingers even after death, waiting for something to attach to, something living- which means it NEEDS determination.
That's an assumption based on Alphys and Flowey's lines of "what if something without the will to live is given determination" and Flowey's genocide dialogue. If determination is the will to persevere, through anything, and Flowey didn't come to life just because of Asriel's ashes scattered on some living things, that it only did after Alphys gave it determination- well that is where i made the assumption from
Also whatever seems to linger after Flowey and Chara died, what is it?
Chara also finds a source of determination and latches onto Frisk, but what latched on? They don't have souls because those shattered
So what the heck is there for them to exist again?
Whilst I fall into the category of finding her text messages really annoying during gameplay, in terms of her character in story she is painfully underrated. From the small bits such as the mentioned interest in alternative universes to the true lab and its experiments in its entirety, she is full of really cool character plots which I'm extremely surprised not many people explore in depth unlike other characters.
I think part of it is that some of the stuff surrounding her is gated behind alternate dialogue choices not everyone chooses. That's why I wanted to highlight it here.
Oh hey, it's the person who is making papyrus' belief. No, not trying to make you known *by* that game
I think the text being annoying is kinda the point
I never really understood people finding characters like MK and Alphys annoying, since dialogue is half the point of Undertale, and it's always cool to get lore, jokes, or lore jokes. It does get a little annoying on subsequent playthroughs though.
@@kristinevanyperen5445this is going to sound dumb AF but who is MK?
So glad you made this character analysis. The fandom has largely done her dirty, so it's good to see some appreciation for her.
Yeah, I really wanted to clear up a lot of the misconceptions surrounding her as well as provide some fun extra details, like alternate dialogue choices some folks might've missed.
Going on and on about how great Alphys is is doing her dirty?
@@bessieburnet9816 There are a lot of people who are extremely harsh about Alphys, even here in the comments you see a lot of it if you scroll far enough. People do love her, but often times those voices get drowned out.
Honestly, I never knew that Alphys was misunderstood by the fandom. 95% of the stuff said in the video are all matters that I had already realized and acknowledged long time ago. (Still was nice to look through her character again though)
Yeah, Undertale seems to have been hit pretty hard with fandom misinterpretations.
It just boggles my mind that I never realized how important Alphys is in Undertale until recently. Without her, Flowey would've never existed. Asriel would've been dead forever (I mean he still is in Undertale, but you probably get it). Flowey would've never absorbed the souls, became Asriel, and broke the barrier. Monsters would still be trapped Underground. If anything, Alphys freed monsterkind. Technically. Not without the casualties.
Yeah. Alphys and Papyrus I'd say have the most direct hand in facilitating the events that lead to the pacifist ending, in a roundabout way. xD Flowey, too, of course, but Alphys and Papyrus both played big parts in pacifist's leadup.
@@Dorked
Wait, explain Papy's role again please?
@@Dorked the most important character is napstablook
@@DrawciaGleam02 Basically, Papyrus (possibly with a little help from Flowey, but it's not super clear how far his influence goes) is the one who facilitates the player to befriend Undyne, then get Undyne and Alphys together, and then investigate the true lab.
Also wasn’t papyrus the one who gathered most of the monsters to the barrier in true pacifist?
Also, is it me or does the fandom completely neglect the neutral endings? There's so much potential in them, yet I rarely see any fanworks exploring those timelines or what might happen if a new human fell into one of them.
@@evilbird4012 replace g with v.
there's horrortale, but in terms of non-creepy post neutral endings, you're right.
honestly it sucks that the fanbase is always like, "genocide ending" when the other endings have a lot of potential too.
@@celestia.27 It's hard for post-neutral ending AUs to be non-creepy, in most the Underground's mood is down the floor.
@@mithril5155 that's true, considering that the 6 human souls are gone after a neutral run.
Yeah, always loved listening to the Neutral endings.
It's still kind of fun to see how Berdly also shares this problem of being the "nerd geek character who is hated by everyone for being annoying and their wrongdoings". Like, as zero improvements of the fandom at all lol.
Although with Berdly, it’s very different than with Alphys. They’re not “annoying” in the same sense. Berdly is seen as annoying because he openly acts like a condescending, know-it-all jerk, while Alphys is seen as annoying mainly because of the text message spam in Hotland, as well as being cringy when ranting about Mew Mew 1 being better than Mew Mew 2.
But what is similar between the two characters, is that both are grossly misunderstood by some parts of the fandom. Some fans fail to see the nuance and tragedy in their backstories, and thus fail to empathize with them.
I dunno, I've actually seen people appreciate Berdly a bit more nowadays. Not to the point of favorite character status, but the irony is that the Frozen Chicken moment did a lot to show he could be more than a one-off joke
I think a lot of Alphys hate is because people see their own tendencies in her. It wounds the ego to realize that sometimes we lie to make ourselves sound cooler, or go off on unsolicited rants about our hobbies, or have various intense crushes complete with elaborate fantasies, or suffer from an anxiety disorder, or suffer from imposter syndrome, etc. etc. I know that's the case with me; so often when I cringe at Alphys or characters like her, I'm cringing at myself. It's really funny how human a character she is. She's complicated, flawed, and like most of us is just kind of fumbling through and trying to do her best. I didn't exactly love her on my first playthrough but I definitely have an appreciation for her now.
This is not it.
@@ummelofilo9642believe me it is. When i was younger I didn't like alphys much, but only later in life I realized that was because I saw myself in her. She was nerdy, anxious, with low self worth - and she was like me. I hated it. Only now I'm beginning to appreciate her character for who she is
This is definitely it. She was the most relatable and I thought about her character the least.
i do not cringe at alphys. in fact i selfship with her
@@budgie4704>tfw no nerdy bbw cringefail lizard gf
I’ll be honest, I sort of crushed on Alphys when I first encountered her. She’s cute, awkward and a massive nerd. Those are traits I tend to latch onto with girls since those are traits I also share. I know she tends to be unpopular due to her behavior during most of Hotland and what she did in the True Lab but… She never struck me as a truly bad person. Just someone who was lost, confused, wanted to be liked and appreciated and was afraid of letting others down. But now that she’s found peace within herself, she’s able to move forward and keep going despite everything. That may not be determination in the literal sense of this universe but that’s determination from within if I’ve ever seen it.
God, I love Alphys. Wish more people did instead of just writing her off as an annoying nerd with a dark side. Thank you for making this analysis, Dorked. 🙂
@@potatopotato3284 I guess? It’s how I feel, though.
I agree
“Annoying nerd with a dark side.” Sounds like Berdly.
My brother in christ.
Thank you for saying what I've been thinking for ages
Facts
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I think Alphys is WAY more important to Undertale's story than Sans. Then again, most characters are, his biggest scenes are either optional encounters or hidden at the end of a route the game discourages you from playing.
And sure, the Gaster Followers imply that the old doctor's genius far surpassed Alphys, but I think they're biased. There's a decent chance that's literally Gaster (or pieces of him) stroking his own ego.
fax man
The Gaster Followers are definitely biased to literally be called the "Gaster Followers"
@@freshcupofangst Gaster's stan club spreading Gaster facts and biased takes to young impressionable fallen humans and otherwordly players is a funny image to have in mind, either that or Gaster trying to subtlely compete with Alphys on the prestige of being the better Scientist which is cute plain jealousy of her new found role and current proweses
I half agree. I think she's more important to the Immediate Story (Flowey, Mettaton, etc.), but there's clearly another (if not many more) stories beneath that top layer, in which I believe Sans is more important. I mean it's very clear there's something going on there, and he has a lot of knowledge regarding Resets and changes between Timelines. Plus the possible Gaster connection, which is obviously bigger than Undertale itself (as in it spans over more than just Undertale, hard breaching into both chapters of Deltarune)
@@krakios3950 I'll argue the fact alphys worked on the gaster blueprints is big, maybe if she had more time to focus, sans, flowey and her could make It work again with how stellar alphys can be, of course we know through the many resets nothing happened with the machine so It's likely either flowey got bored too early or no important breakthrough occured without determination
I think a lot of the later mischaracterization came from the sickness all fandoms have. As the source material gets older, people start to really focus on specific traits, likes and dislikes, and even a few lines of dialogue as well as just straight up misinformation. Papyrus was greatly dumbed down and turned into an avid spaghetti lover. Most of Undynes depth as a character was taken from her. Even Asgore (though Deltarune definitely helped) was turned into a himbo divorcee obsessed with getting back with Toriel. Gaster has a good deal of canon information but even then a lot is speculation.
Alphys definitely got some of the worst of it, overlooked, killed off, and bashed. All despite playing a major role in the story.
Yeah, flanderization happens a lot. It can come down to inexperienced writers, people forgetting details, etc. It varies, tbh.
This comment sums up my problems with every fandom in existence
You really can't get a better example of mischaracterization from fanon interference than Sans, in Undertale he's
-The weakest enemy, who does 1 damage per hit, and dies in one hit, he can dodge, and use KARMA to do damage, but in a pacifist route, he'd actually be a decently easy fight (Minus his weird frame mechanics)
-An overall jokester, a slackoff, he doesn't care for his job as a Sentry all that much, and he loves making lighthearted puns, and doing silly pranks.
-The royal judge, I think, and one really good at reading facial expressions.
Meanwhile, in most fan works, he's
-The strongest monster alive, who can solo the entire underground no dif
-Has determination, half the time, even though the existence of Flowey and HIS ability to reset would be proof against that headcanon
-Hell, they changed the color of his glowing eye completely, from blue and yellow, to just blue.
-Can remember timelines after they get erased, and somehow knows about EVERYTHING you've ever done.
-And, the son of Gaster, who has a VAGUE appearance resembling a skeleton, I guess.
I don't get how he got done so dirty...
@@WestGarbage6tbh sans remembering stuff from previous saves literally does happen in undertale
@@Morrigan101 Not really, I mean, the possibility is out there, but it's just as likely that he's also just really good at reading expressions, like he says, and his knowledge of the timelines just happens to coincide with that to give him enough context to make educated guesses based off of expressions.
Then again, I haven't played Undertale in awhile, so I might be completely forgetting a part of the game where he does clearly remember the timelines.
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It just hit me that Alphys is into "powerful" monsters, be it through literal strength or positions of authority. Every one of her crushes plays into that.
Even the "Unknown" could play into that, like a flipped script on HP Lovecraft's utter terror at the unknowable, of beings potentially so mighty that mankind is but a fleeting memory to them.
It is not after a couple years that I really get what the whole of the Alphys scenes has as a MORAL MESSAGE. The way it's structured, the pacing of the dialogue, the way Alphys confesses fabrication after fabrication. It's all about not letting lies control your life, and if you've BUILT too much upon them, knowing the importance to come out with the truth so you can be YOURSELF as best as you can again, with the help of those who care for you now being able to know you better.
I do wonder, If Berdly were to confess to everyone in Deltarune. Wouldn't Alphys be the perfect consultant. Personally, that's a dinamic I'm dying for to appear in future chapters.
Oh, I'd love to see more Berdly and Alphys interaction specifically because they have a lot in common.
I feel like that's just a great arc and interaction just WAITING to happen. Assuming primary characters from different chapters get time in the spot light after their primary debut. Just like Alphys, Berdly isn't very well-liked, and i believe is misunderstood.
Also I think she is very heavily coded as neurodivergent and it makes me sad to see people dislike her when she talks about her hyperfixations. Alphys deserves more love!
We love our autistic morally grey girls in stem (saying this as an autistic girl)
@@StarGarnet03 REAL
honestly the undertale fandom is so bad when it comes to neurodivergent coded characters, either they're demonized like alphys, or with papyrus who's considered by a lot of people to also be autistic coded, just straight up infantilized and treated like a small child who doesn't understand anything. it's frustrating.
It seriously baffles me that in a game where kindness and forgiveness are preached, Alphys is where people draw the line.
The person who was trying to save people who were dying is just to much to do to much empathy for them tbh
no shade to asriel or anything, i love him, but i have always thought it was funny that so many people cant even fathom someone choosing not to forgive him or hug him for the MASS amounts of destruction and death he caused, but wont give alphys the time of day for having ONE major fuck up and then having a very normal reaction (all things considered) to that major fuck up, just because shes a little annoying and cringey.
again, no shade to asriel. im not saying he doesnt deserve comfort or anything. i just think its a bit hypocritical.
@@bumbabees Fr they Can effortlessly forgive the self proclaimed god of hyper death but can forgive the girl who was trying to save people who were dying because she was 2 anxious to say anything about her colosal failure
@@aidenharris5296 i feel like the difference between a little kid trapped in a body that lacks emotion with piles of trauma ontop of that is fairly different from a fully grown adult who chooses to lie to and manipulate others. of course anyone can be redeemed, but individuals still have the right to not forgive the awful ats of others, ontop of that. the way Alphys lies to the player to make them like her and think she's cool like some kind of pond scum is just pretty revolting, and when she takes that to the level of not telling people what happened to their family members? kinda fucked.
@@bumbabeeshe has pretty privilege. Or rather, cute and fluffy privilege. I say this as someone who would 200% forgive Asriel.
Honestly Alphys probably has one of the most tragic backstories of all Undertale characters and everyone just kinda forgets about it because of that other Royal Scientist and how she interrupts the flow of Hotland. Really nice video bringing this to light!
Thanks! I think it's easy to get swept up in the Gaster hype when the fandom makes it out to be this big deal, but as someone who played in 2015, it was just so weird to watch her gradually get consumed by the G man hype.
Again I just can't bother caring how tragic a character's backstory if they make the game less fun and more annoying. I generally just don't enjoy her character. I don't know why everyone tries to justify her as if she's a real person, I mean, she's a video game character, so it's her job to be enjoyable. I wouldn't say what I'm saying about real people because it's not a real person's job to entertain me. But in the context of a game I paid for to entertain myself, having a character that makes me less entertained makes me not like that character.
@@SuperIsaiah I agree with if you don’t like a character, you are free to dislike it. But people should be able to voice the reason they do like a character without others discrediting them. And that happened often with people who liked Alphys. This video might not have convinced *you* that Alphys is a good character, but some people did actually have a change of heart towards her character upon watching. This video is also giving those people who were silenced by people against Alphys a voice and a chance to be seen. It’s the same matter with Amy Rose.
And I think this video is ESPECIALLY needed since so many people have misconceptions of what Alphys actually did and instead of fact checking they just spread misinformation to fuel the distain towards that character. It’s one thing to understand a character but not like them, it’s a whole other thing if you don’t understand a character, have misinformation about them and then misrepresent them.
@@redballoon9007 no no, alphys is a good character, I just find her annoying. Also I think you completely misunderstood my reply.
I wasn't saying this video is bad. It's a good video.
@@SuperIsaiah I was more responding to the “I don’t know why people need to justify…” part.
NEO being Mettaton's first form surprisingly makes sense the more I think about it. Looking back at it in Undertale, it's clear the form was more about showmanship than it was about practicality. Comparing it to other forms, there are so many features such as the massive wings, new face, and Even Mettaton confirms this by saying that Alphys should've "worked more on the defences." It wouldn't make sense for Mettaton's final form to be his weakest, *unless* that form was actually his first that was made before Alphys wanted Mettaton to be designed for human-eradication.
With that in mind, it is interesting to see how each previous form shows Alphys streamlining Mettaton for that purpose, slowly making him more compact and strong. By the time he is in his MTT Box Form, he cannot be damaged by humans as he can kill them with as little as pointing at them as electricity comes out of his fingertips. In general, the plot-point of Mettaton being forced into human-eradication by Alphys was something I always found interesting about his character, so it's sad to never see it explored in the game or by most fans.
It's one of the reasons why I like Inverted Fate so much, I like that Mettaton's conflicts throughout the comic come from his relation to stardom and/or Undyne breathing down his neck to kill Frisk. In general, I think that praise extends to a bunch of characters. You managed to write original conflicts for them which worked for their characters! (Especially Sans, I like that he isn't treated like someone who can do no wrong and that both he and Papyrus go through character arcs throughout the story). Sorry for turning this into me gushing about IF, it is my favourite Undertale AU for its writing and characterisation after all!
There really is a lot to consider with MTT! I like to think EX was a compromise as the initial NEO form wasn't very practical, and I can't imagine it would've been easy to maintain with stuff like wings. EX removes some of the flair in exchange for pragmaticism while still being very showy and human-like, which I think was what MTT wanted all along. Thanks for the kind words about IF, too! I had a lot of fun planning out his arc there.
A really late reply, but NEO isn't Mettaton's weakest form, not at all. His weakest would be EX, and even then, EX is stronger than regular Undyne, which is pretty impressive. Mettaton NEO has 90 ATK and only 9 DEF, but despite his low defense, he has 30 000 HP. That's more than Undying. He only seems so weak at that point in the No Mercy route because Frisk is too powerful, even Undyne the Undying would die in one hit at that point in the game.
I just realized that Mettaton in box form is literally Palpatine lol
@@Dorkedactually I would consider the Box on wheels to be the strongest.
The ability to Palpatine Frisk by lifting a finger and being impervious to damage is a lot of power. The wheel is the only weak point however. Despite that it seems to outclass the other forms. If only Mettaton wasn’t so focused on showmanship the game might end at core no matter how good the player is.
Alphys finally getting the recognition and respect she deserves
Alphys absolutely deserves more love! The fact that I struggled to find cool fanworks at the end speaks volumes, sadly.
The recognition and respect she deserves after getting all of that and more from the fandom for years?
@@bessieburnet9816 I have no idea where you're from but from my experience finding any sort of fanwork yet alone finding quality fanwork where Alphys is the focal point of the story is a pretty challenging task in itself because of fandom's weird obsession with Sans.
My theory to Alphys saying Kris is normal is because she looked over at Kris with a giant pile of games/random stuff on their head so she just nervously told their own mother that they’re normal
Alphys is surely one of the misunderstanding and relatable characters in the whole franchise.
YES. She and Asgore get some of the worst takes out there, tbh. It's rather sad to see because you can enjoy flawed characters who do bad things without agreeing with said bad things.
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nothing will ever be as relatable to me as napstablook eating then laying down on the ground and feels like garbage
Honestly, if it weren't for fandom mischaracterization, I'm positive that Alphys would be the fan favorite. I say that as someone whose favorite is Sans.
When you really think about it fanon Sans is just a recolor of Alphys. Nearly every attribute he is falsely labeled as better applies to her. Nerdy, insecure, depressed, multiverse enthusiast, hell even her "dark turn" post genocide. I'd even argue that Alphys' change in demeanor is more jarring than Sans' on top of having more significance in the narrative.
There's also the fact that she has history with Sans which makes it extra weird to me how most discuss around her is negative or nonexistent. Having history with Sans is usually all a character needs to receive love from the fandom. It's wild how Gaster stole her spotlight just by being mysterious.
On a brighter note, it brings me so much joy to see someone correctly analysis Alphys WHILE praising her. Keep up the great work!!
How to I like a comment twice? I love how you put this and you have a really good point. This is why Alphys is my favorite character
just a funny thing i noticed. alphys says the garbage is her element. deltarune uses elements for certain attacks, like cat. i hope we find a garbage element.
I'm surprised Spamton wasn't garbage element. xD Instead, he's cat.
@@Dorked Maybe Spamton is the cat that eats what she leaves out in the dumpster for her "cat".
@@rosykindbunny1313 I think it was actually Susie who drinks the milk in the alleyway, but that would be a cool theory too, lol!
@@themarvelousmikey3512 Susie and Spamton meeting up in the middle of the night to drink the milk
@@rosykindbunny1313 Yes lol
Thanks for making this video on Alphys!
It’s really strange to see Alphys’s work in the True Lab be credited to Gaster because of grammatical or case inconsistencies, when Gaster himself is known to be far more strict with his own writing/dialogue (Such as the odd spacing, exclusive pronoun use in Japanese, or preference towards Caps Lock)
Yeah. Gaster has a very distinct way of speaking from what we can see in Entry Number 17 and in Deltarune. Some people attribute it to Sans as well, but even the lowercase entries don't sound like him. It's always bothered me, and that's why I wanted to present the entries in order so that folks could see that that interpretation is a bit silly.
@@Dorked Especially since you can see Sans's writing in his house, and he writes in Comic Sans (like Papyrus who writes in Papyrus.)
One moment that makes me happy is that Alphys claims "You may never hear from me" after Undyne's date. Papyrus even calls you with a hint of urgency and concern. This makes me assume that she was planning to do the worst after "owning up to her own mistakes". But if you ignore Papyrus and head to Asgore, in contrast of all this context, she seems very happy in this neutral ending. One of two where she pops up to talk to the player. This implies that after "owning up to her mistakes", which might mean she was going to send the Amalgamates back to their families, maybe with the acceptance from those families and the support she experienced from her friends (including the player during the date sequence), she decided to go against it, looking to a brighter future instead of disappearing. I find this very wholesome.
I absolutely LOVE this character analysis. I've seen some other videos about Alphys's character, but they're usually really short because apparently "She's not THAT important to the story" even though she literally created the main villain of Undertale and she's done lots more significantly important things. It's the only video covering a single Undertale character that has been over half an hour long that I actually enjoyed. Thanks for covering this 😁
Eyy, no problem! I'm happy to hear you enjoyed it. When making a long video like this, I was a little nervous 'cause I didn't wanna bore people. But there's just so much to talk about with Alphys. xD She's easily one of the most important, too.
And the fandom choose to forget is that all her efforts paid off in the end, because without Flowey there wouldn't be a happy ending at all.
31:39 I can imagine Toriel saying something like this: "Alphys, your relieved of your duties as the royal scientist, now go get a career that won't eat you up inside every day, like a freelance gadget sales person! Frisk seems to enjoy themselves a lot with your neat gizmos you added to their phone."
Yeah, that’s probably what happened
Toriel does have a vindictive side, and she tends towards self-righteousness and moral outrage. So I can't particularly see Alphys' firing being done kindly.
@@DreamersOfReality Toriel likely took it out on and blamed Asgore...
We ought to have an analysis of Asgore next. He’s been through so much, but everyone treats him as either a brutal war criminal or as cheap comic relief.
Also, *thank you* for 0:18! Glitchtale’s issues need to be adressed. Everyone thinks it’s so deep and heartwarming; about familial love and whatnot. *No.* It’s just Camilla Cuevas’ Mary-Sue self-insert hosting a slaughterfest on all of the Underground while 2010’s Flash game music blasts in the background.
I wanted to be careful with how I approached mentioning Glitchtale. Animation is really hard work and I can acknowledge the effort that goes into making a series like that, but I just can't agree with its writing decisions and how it treated Alphys in particular. It is the posterchild of fanworks making Gaster this super important character at the cost of one of UT's core cast, and that on top of fridging made it worse.
@@Dorked ive never seen glitchtale, but is it bad that a fan work puts focus on different characters than the source?
I have to disagree. I think Glitchtale on its own merit as an Undertale AU that diverges heavily from the source material is good. Once you approach it more with an 'Original story with some of undertales cast present at the forefront', then its easier to look past it and see the good merits of it.
Although I have to agree that alphys was done dirty, and Betty is an extremely one-note character.
@@jackeroni216 Not necessarily, but the problem with how GT treats Alphys is that in the only episode she has a speaking role in, she's killed off. This core part of UT's cast is cast aside for Gaster. She doesn't get to do anything cool for most of the series while Gaster gets to be the cool science exposition guy and even gets to be a major part of the prequel series. It just kinda stings.
@@wandereringshadow8658 I think GT is definitely a love it or hate it kinda show. For me, I just can't vibe with a lot of its story decisions, but I can at least respect that it's a TON of work to make many 40+ minute episodes of animation. That's a passion and dedication that deserves acknowledgement for sure, even if I don't care for the series.
I've never really been a big fan of Alphys but after revisiting Undertale a while back she's really started to grow on me, nice video.
Hey, thanks! That's definitely the goal with this video: to give people some new appreciation for Alphys and a better understanding of her character.
5:00 Alphys's response to the tapes is similar to her response to *everything being completely fine*: She hid the offending part away to spare others or herself the pain instead of coming clean, even if the latter would've been a better idea. My guess is she doesn't like confrontations, which is no surprise.
I relate to that a lot, tbh. Confrontation is really hard, especially when you have anxiety. x_x
Honestly didn't believe that she actually had haters. Her journey of self-worth hit me so harshly close to home and she definitely had a lot of my interest in my short Undertale fanfiction phase. Thanks for making this and reminding me what I liked about her character so much!
Something about alphys' character that strikes me personally is that even when things start going wrong in the CORE, Alphys never abandons you, and she uses her own ingenuity instead of giving up, even saving you from the blue lasers that would otherwise stop you in your tracks.
Thank you so much for addressing that shitty 'Gaster wrote the True Lab entries/made Flowey and the amalgamates and not Alphys', that theory sends me into a fucking rage.
Also thank you for going really in depth with the connections of the True Lab Entries back to Alphys' character and other words and actions. My whole counterargument for why Gaster didn't write them was... it'd be unbelievably shitty writing.
'Oh, silly me! Alphys never made all those mistakes! This person otherwise completely unrelated to the plot of the game did! All of Alphys' guilt which made her suicidal did not come from her own mistakes, but from a man she doesn't even remember, and perhaps never even met! Her entire arc of coming clean about her lies and doing the right thing is absolutely meaningless! Whoopsy doopsy!' What kind of shit arc is that, what the fuck are the themes there. What sort of message does it send. A bad one.
That's not even getting into how Gaster has his own damn speaking style and NONE of the True Lab entries match up with it... holy shit, people...
Uh. Yeah. I perhaps have some Strong Feelings about this theory, thank you for giving me a video to point to if anyone ever brings it up again in the future.
Yeah, I had a bunch of people arguing for that theory on my Gaster video so that was a big motivating factor in me handling the True Lab recap in the way that I did. I wanted to really take time to organize EVERYTHING and make it clear that the changes in writing styles served a characterization purpose. Taking them in order, you get such a clear presentation of Alphys' struggles. All in all, very well said!
As must I love gaster I think alphys need more love, that include asgore, frisk, and everyone, but of love nuggets, please to let San take over the show, he has way to much love and I understand people live this tricker but good grief look what they did to him!!
Wait don't, let San have too much spotlight, please!! I made a mistake on typing.
Wait people ACTUALLY THINK THAT. PHAHAHA- that makes me cackle. Alphys is such a vital role to the story Gaaaahhh.
@@notaninfodump5929 I'm shock that San have way more spotlight than the rest of the Undertale cast, hell even frisk don't get no love; that coming from me that love chara and want that character get some love cause how a mastery they are. That goes to every character even the ones that don't appear that often or just some hints that difficult to find sometimes.
I honestly like Alphys a lot more than Sans . Don't get me wrong, I love the main UT cast as a whole but In my opinion, Alphys is the best of the group. I know most people really didn't like how most of her interactions slowed down progression (I think Toby was gonna put a way to stop her notifications at one point in development) but I think taking that away would also take away what would define who Alphys is.
People blame Alphys for creating the Amalgamates also forget that nowhere outside of the True Lab states what happens to a monster with Determination (unless I overlooked something) and it just grinds my gears how people act like she and Asgore are the most irredeemable of the cast when Toriel is not as innocent as most people like to believe (Why didn't she try to reason with Asgore or try to stop him instead of running off to the ruins like a coward? And also the whole holding Frisk against their will thing but you be the judge of that.)
Sorry about the wall of text, but Alphys deserves just as much attention as everyone else in the main cast.
No need to apologize for such thoughtful engagement! :) It's nice to see people sharing detailed thoughts and feelings, and I agree with a lot of what you're saying. Asgore and Alphys by far get some of the worst takes in the fandom.
I personally never cared about Sans, idk why, he just seems uninteresting somehow
Like, he's such a loaded character with many abilities and the potential to shift the plot in huge ways, but he only ever does anything plot relevant in ONE fight and even then it's just him showing off a lot of stuff that only serves to piece together some plot points
And i can't even be mad, because he's still very much in character with his laziness. But the fact that the only way to get anything out of him is to get the worse ending is disappointing
Asgore and Alphys are my 2 favourite characters, and I hate that people trash them so much. Almost every character has made some mistakes and done bad things at some point, and yet they get let off while these two are picked on for everything. Not to mention the amount of bs Asgore and Alphys had to put up with in the game, they deserve so much more respect than they get
Another funny thing about Toriel is that she could have used one of the souls to go to the surface and get them peacefully as she said. Asgore no doubt compromised with her on that since he'd fulfill his promise to his people, have her back in his life for a moment and hated the killing.
@@99sonicrocks yeah, even though i like toriel, shes kinda a hypocrite
Alphy has always been one of my favorite characters, I’m glad someone is finally giving this character justice she deserves. I’ve always hated how the fandom ignores her in favor of the funny bone man and his “dead” dad. (I could say that about most characters though but that’s a whole different can of worms) I hope because of this video, more people realize that alphy is really cool and interesting! your videos are such a breath of fresh air in this fandom! I love your content!
Aw, thank you so much! :) I'm someone who cares a lot about characterization and story stuff, so I love to be able to elevate and discuss things like this in the games and media I enjoy.
"dead" "dad"
we still dont know for certain, or at all, if Gaster made Sans and Papyrus, it's still a theory, and sentences like 'They just showed up out of nowhere one day' doesn't really prove that their father has to be Gaster due to him being erased from the universe, they literally could have just arrived in Snowdin from the Lab (Sans possibly used to be an assistant scientist under Gaster or Alphys) without ever having ever been seen by anyone else besides Asgore
Alphys deserves a hug so much. Thank you for this video!
No problem! Really tired of people glossing over the nuance to her just to relegate her to a love interest only or make her out to be so much worse than she really is.
I would like to note about Mettaton agreeing to 'vegan' excuse Alphys made despite Mettaton himself had used eggs. In the Japanese version, the dialogue when Alphys said "vegan" was translated to ”ヴェジタリアン” (Vuejitarian). That itself explains that it seems that Mettaton aren't exactly wrong with the eggs, it's just that he's just in a wrong language setting lol.
In that case, the word “vegetarian” could just have been used… Plus English is the game’s original language, so it can’t possibly be a mistranslation feom Japanese.
@@MutedAndReported3032 that's the thing, Toby wanted to troll us by using the word vegan instead of vegetarian. Of course, the term "vegan" doesn't exist in Japanese, so the translation team could only use the existing word, "vegetarian". Still is an interesting little info on how English and Japanese version of the game are similar yet different.
if there's bird monsters who lay eggs and have the ability to consent, would that make monster eggs vegan because the egg layer can sign off on selling their eggs for food? Breastmilk is considered vegan so i think the eggs might be too. Im thinking about this too hard
@@HiuSharkythe term "vegan" does exist in japanese, "zettaisaishokushugi" or "belief of eating only vegetables", or a more simple "biigan" which is a romanization of "vegan"
I should know because "zettaisaishokushugi" was the example my Japanese teachers used for "zettai" in a noun
@@KyrieFortune interesting, never thought of that word tbh. Though it's not really used frequently, don't you think? Since even Toby's translation changed it to "vegetarian", since that word is more familiar to japanese people.
I never really had a problem with Alphys I know her text messages were a bit annoying but I didn’t really have a problem with it because it shows her personality and I know what she did is wrong but can you blame her she was scared and didn’t know what to do don’t expect her to come up with a answer on the spot and besides she is one of my favorite undertale characters one of the only that made me laugh.
YEAH! I think the people who are really hard on Alphys don't consider what it was like to BE In that position, with all that responsibility riding on her while doing purely unprecedented work.
@@Dorked People don't get what 'Falling down" really fully means in an Undertale context. it basically is a monsters equilevant of natural death or dying, or dying by some sort of natural cause. Alphys was trying to cure the equilevant of MONSTER DEATH, and secueeded (although in a very unideal way.)
@@Dorkedthe thing is your video explains why alphys is like, misunderstood/not a bad person/ whatever, but I think the general consensus of the people who don't like her (like me) is simply just because she's not as fun as the other characters to us. Her appearances tend to be more on the annoying side, from a gameplay perspective.
The deep meaning behind a character doesn't matter to me if I don't enjoy watching them. It's why many people like sans and papyrus the most, not because their story is all that more interesting, just because they are often considered the most fun characters
@@SuperIsaiah That sounds more of a YOU problem, bud.
Really in depth character analysis! It's really great at describing Alphys as a character and going deep into her motivations and goals
Thank you for the kind words! This took so much time to put together. xD The True Lab portion especially.
I cried during the Alphys date during my first playthrough of Undertale because for me, seeing Alphys was like looking into a mirror. I’m a nerdy, lesbian woman in an engineering field who has battled depression, social anxiety, self doubt, and self-loathing at times throughout my whole life.
In Alphys, I saw the same desire to help others, the same ambition to help society at large with the same uncertainty about how to do that.
I also saw the same fear of rejection, the same fatigue of trying to hide every part of you that you think others will hate, the same impostor syndrome, the same shame. And growth past the flawed reasoning that fuel anxiety and self-hate; the same growth which I had started earlier that year.
Sans and Gaster are interesting because they’re mysterious, but Alphys has the most realistic characterization in the game.
I really hope Alphys will get a new life as a character bc she rlly is awesome. Its crazy how she didnt do numbers on tumblr like she's got it all (hot fish gf, (not) mad scientist, likes anime, crazy cool inventing skills, REPTILE??!? SLASH OTHER TYPE MONSTER, Done morally dubious experiments with good intentions, Bi.) Like its soo messed up. But I think that with everyone going back to ut and revisiting the actual canon will help. At least, i hope so
I really think a lot of it had to do with the Gaster mysteries overshadowing her. People love mysteries and datamining/ARG type content, so naturally folks flocked to this big, mysterious figure and as a result, Gaster became really pivotal to the fan community, and over time Alphys got left further and further in the dust. I don't hate Gaster, and I think there's room for works exploring him, but it's a shame it came at the cost of Alphys.
I feel like the problems with Alphys character arc stem from the fact that its brought up way too late in the game. We literally find out about the mintues before we fight Asriel, thus there isn't much room to show the consequences of her reputation to fall down and her dealing with that. Personally i like Alphys chracter arc being a deconstruction of the socially awkward nerd, wherein her insecurities and depression are protrayed very accuratly in how they affect her and have substantial reasons for exisitng and don't just exist to endear her to the player with her quirkyness.
I hope that her Deltraune counterpart has to potential to change her reputation among the fandom as is hope that Alphys gets a character arc of becoming more confident.
I think a part of it is definitely that a lot of the buildup to it is very subtle foreshadowing and some of it you have to actively go out of yoru way to find. People who don't do any optional interactions and exploration will definitely be more thrown off than those who poke everything.
@@Dorked I think Asgore falls into a similar hole of why hes not talked about as much as other major characters. Asgore the character only really gets... 20-30 minutes of screentime in the entire game, while the others get a whole lot more.
The fact that you can find barely any good content for the majority of the main characters is pretty sad. Alphys, Toriel, Asgore, Undyne, Flowey, MM, the list goes on. And there's so much to all of these characters that are never talked about. It's a shame, it would be awesome to see a more diverse use of characters in the fandom :(
We are at least in a step in the right direction, when it comes to utilizing more members of the main cast.
More people in the fandom are willing to pull from the actual canon now, as opposed to a few years ago.
I actually really like Alphys, she's one of the most relatable characters. And the way she pretends to be helping you with mettaton's help is just too funny
hearing Alphys as a character gets actual hate for being selfish is so weird to me
Alphys has been my fave character since I was little and, even then, I saw part of that fake heroism as a way to get attention away from the amalgamates when she felt really *really* guilty
i can see how people will find her traits bad but that's what makes her an amazing character! and her song bangs fr fr
A scientist, haunted by regret, pressured by the kingdom, lossed all of her friends.
Somebody needed to speak up and make this. Everyone I know hates her, and I really feel bad for her, and I relate to her a lot, actually.
You pointing out things like this 19:40 and how you used them in inverted fate really make me appreciate the little details more
Eyy, thanks. :) I love small details like that. It's really fun to tap into that sort of thing!
I really appreciate how you decided to highlight Alphys' importance to both Undertale and Deltarune. She's rather unappreciated by a good few parts of the fandom, yet she's an important part of so many characters' lives (like. she basically helped both Mettaton and Mad Mew Mew get their new bodies and supported them, for one). And I hate how she's sidelined for people like Gaster to steal the spotlight. that being said, I really appreciate how Inverted Fate has her be faced with similar-but-also-actually-very different problems, and how she's ended up there as a result.
Thanks! I definitely wanted to give Alphys some love in IF, even if it's a different Alphys with differing circumstances.
@@Dorked "Why is there a robot Mew Mew Kissy Cutie, and why does she have a GIANT KNIFE?!?" - Captain Alphys
In all seriousness, I like how Mettaton and Alphys' friendship was retained and was still what ultimately led to Mettaton getting his robot body in IF.
I never found the deltarune Alphys lore because I rushed through the lightworld segments so this has been really interesting to see the parallels between the character in undertale and deltarune. I also just want to say that I didn't get any adverts other than popups while watching, which seems strange for such a long video. I hope you get enough revenue for such a well put together video.
Ah, that's very odd. It says ads and monetization are on. I'll have to look into it. Thanks for the heads up!
Yeah, it's really easy to rush through the light world.
I love Alphys, and it's always bothered me how much the fandom just seems to ignore or dismiss her - or worse, want to get rid of her. She's trying her best, and as someone with anxiety, I know how the pressure to do well and get approval can end up making someone do really stupid stuff. She's an extremely underrated and underloved character. Thank you for this video!
Personally I've always loved Alphys. She's hilarious and relatable! And definitely deserves more attention than what she gets. That and her interactions with the other characters are just adorable.
I adore Alphys so much, she has always been my favorite Undertale character. I find her almost painfully relatable so when people call her annoying it really hurts.
Finally someone agrees that what glitchtale did with Alphys was just plain wrong, I was expecting her to come back at the end of the season considering how easily some characters were revived with different plot devices, but she never did, which doesn't make sense at all unless the author had a grudge against Alphys.
That would have been cute to see her back
But there was pretty much no way to bring her back-
Her soul was outright broken, not absorbed like Sans' or Asriel's
And she died way too soon to be brought back on that one controversial part of the series (Timelime 2 creation, which I still consider the biggest deus ex machina in there)
Nor she had any kind of determination to come back to life by herself somehow, it would require another dirty deus ex machina, and I don't think GT needs any more of those-
I agree it would have been better if she had more screentime and stuff before it happened for Undyne's character development, but welp, not much we can do about that
I hope to give Alphys the love she deserved in my AU that I’m making. Hopefully, I can write her well into the story.
Good job!
Man, that was awesome! Ya covered her so well and went over every detail, as it seems, and really do her justice.
Funnily enough, the soul-trait "justice"'s color's yellow, too.
Gaster is surely an amazingly interesting character but it's a shame how the mystery around him completely overshadows Alphys. I'm thankful for your dedication and work put into this video as well as how IF!Alphys is being portrayed.
Awesome work done, as usual. :D
Eyy, thanks a bunch! It's really relieving to hear that the work paid off and people are enjoying it, especially since my videos usually don't go over 20 minutes. xD Longform content like this is hard, but I felt it was the best way to tackle Alphys since there's significantly more to dig into than, say, Berdly or Mew Mew at this time.
@@Dorked Well said! The work put into this really paid off, as usual. :D
Someone doesn't need to be a good person to be a good character. What Alphys did was not the right thing to do, but her reasons were believable and human, and in the end, we see that she feels remorse and makes up for it
If she weren't a good person, she wouldn't have felt regret or come clean.
Good person does not = saint who can do no wrong.
I've always said that while Sans is the character everyone in the fandom wants to be, Alphys is the character most fans are similar to in reality: nerdy, yearns for escapism, wants to be a part of Undertale's story, obsessed with alternate universes and timelines, doesn't feel capable or important despite making incredible things because they're derived from a previous person's work (Toby for the fans, Gaster for Alphys).
I think Alphys's underappreciated status in the Undertale/Deltarune fandom says a lot about how willing people are to look at themselves as flawed characters.
I get that some people might not forgive her, but using that same logic, it's just as easy to not forgive pretty much every single character you meet. Toriel claims to want to keep Frisk safe, but doesn't help past letting them leave. Papyrus plays at being the "big damn hero" and his childishness legitimately causes problems, especially when he works with Undyne in Waterfall. Undyne, aside from having some anger issues (relatable tbh), lets her human prejudice drive her to kill a child who, depending on your playthrough, might not have even done anything wrong. In a Pacifist run, she knows the human is innocent, but doesn't care. Mettaton's main flaw is his vanity, and his relationship with Alphys is complicated. Sans basically sees everything as futile and doesn't do much of anything unless you push him to the breaking point by killing almost everyone else. And Asgore is, well, Asgore.
Every character in Undertale is flawed. Undertale is all about the choice to forgive. So why is it that some fans struggle so much to forgive Alphys, one of the few main characters in the game who never tries to kill you? Whose only sin was wanting to feel some kind of respect or admiration that she hadn't felt in a very long time?
(Personally, I find I am far harder on myself than other people would be towards me. In that sense, I relate to Alphys. And I don't think I'm the only one. Other people must see themselves in her too. Why else would they be so hard on her?)
Underrated
Great analysis, but honestly I think Asgore deserves more than what he has Right now. Everyone sees him as a child murderer, but he, in all honesty, is not nearly as bad. All of the previous humans we're violent and dangerous, While Asgore regretted his decisions greatly. He's Also kind, passionate, nice, and a great gardener. He's way better than people put him out to be. Did I mention He was a great dad while Chara was with the Dreemurs too?
@@PhantomGato-v- Okay, but only two of the fallen children are confirmed to have killed monsters, and that doesn’t excuse Asgore’s actions, even though I like his character. Otherwise I agree with what you’ve said.
The shade at glitchtale is REAL 💀💀💀
A welcome potshot since Camila’s a piece of shi-
thank you for this video! i'm so glad i'm not alone in thinking the community does alphys so dirty
it was always really apparent to me that all of the true lab entries were written by alphys, and that the slow breakdown of capitalization and punctuation was because her mental state was deteriorating; Due to the experiments not working and the mounting extenal pressure to report what was happening to asgore and the families of the monsters whose bodies she borrowed.
YES! All of this. Toby did a great job conveying character through little things, and it bums me out that so many people were quick to remove that aspect of her for the sake of other characters.
Alphys is one of my all time favorite characters, so I’m really glad you made this. Usually she doesn’t get as much attention, despite being one of the main characters who helped the story develop, and has one of the most interesting pasts.
I'm always thankful for Alphys praise. She was always my favorite, and I think some of that might relate to personal experience, but I also just find her super endearing, and it sucks that she's one of the more overlooked characters in the fandom. Here's hoping that she starts to get more love down the line, especially since she seems to be reoccurring in Deltarune.
ohhh my gosh this is so good .... i love alphys a ton [hence the pfp aha] and watching this entire video made me very happy!! im hoping thisll open some undertale fans eyes and allow them to see that alphys is so /so/ much more than just an anime weeb and how she really impacts both the story and the other monster's lives + how she is one of the reasons the entire underground got to go free. aaah thank you for making this, it was such a joy to watch =]
YEAH. if anything, working on this made me really appreciate how important Alphys is and what a crucial part she plays in Undertale's story.
I never understood why people think Alphys is this cruel mad scientist who wanted to hurt others... She had no idea that her experiments will lead to the creation of the amalgamates. Her being ashamed of the results is understandable, even if she didn't mean to make amalgamates, she still caused incredible pain to these monsters and she wouldn't want to show their relatives what happened. She still looked after the amalgamates the best she could.
I always loved Alphys a lot, I even cosplayed her once for a con when I was a teen! She really resonated with me back then, shy, low self-esteem and avoidance towards others, plus the weird sense of guilt despite not doing anything wrong on purpose... I'm in a better place now, but I still love Alphys a lot, she's adorable and I never understood the hate for her.
I can’t say I really enjoyed alphys as a character, and while this video realistically didn’t make me immediately love the character, I can’t say there isn’t a sort of charm to someone as anxious as I am!
Hey, that's fine! Not everyone is gonna love every character. I just wanted to do my part in making sure that she's given the analysis and discussion she's deserved for years. I think a lot of times, people tend to focus on the bigger character traits and forget the smaller ones with time and distance. It has been many years, after all!
38:53 I've actually heard an intersting theory that she actually doesn't like mew mew 2, but is lying in order to impress asgore
Yeah, I mentioned that as a possibility. I just personally like the idea that her perspective changes due to her circumstances. xD
Alphys is a socially anxious, avoidant, shut-in with no confidence in herself and self hatred issues. If that doesn't sound like a very large chunk of the Fandom, I don't know what does. And when you've got self-hatred, seeing someone else with similar flaws can actually result in a hatred of that person, purely because they remind you of everything wrong with yourself. Alphys is an accidental mirror up to the Fandom and everyone hates her for it. That's why I hated her for the longest time. Thankfully I've been able to grow in my personal life and at the same time I've warmed up to her character, even if the Hotland section does still annoy me slightly. I think we should all be a little kinder to Alphys. (Plus she's also got a ton of potential when it comes to fan-works.)
Wow someone put it into words, I never truly hated her rather I hated how much I related to her.
Realising how great Alphys actually is while simultaneously learning self love? You know what that is? Growth.gif
TBH I want to have some discussion on Everyman, because the amount of appearance he has is...fascinating. And that name... It's possibly connected to the vessel as the vessel could be any man or woman design-wise. It has many variants.
Yeah, Alphys is my second favorite character and I'll always be annoyed at how Glitchtale treated a LOT of the cast. I forget exactly when in season 2 I stopped watching but it just got to be Underground versus Villian Sue with so many characters getting sidelined. I specifically remember Frisk erasing themselves, the only interesting new human character dying, and Mettaton getting completely sidelined and bodied when after Alphys's death he should have been EXTREMELY prominent, or at least had a chance to shine. I remember checking out so much. Anyway, yeah, I've always liked Alphys, and it's a shame how rarely she's ever portrayed outside of being Undynes girlfriend. She's a lot more, deserved better, it's it's always amazing to see well done interpretations of her. I'm really excited how things will go for her in Deltarune
Yeah, I stopped watching before Jessica died, but was bummed to find out it happened because Jessica was a pretty decent character. Honestly, my personal gripes have a lot to do with some of the worldbuilding and characterization. It gave all this focus to Sans and Gaster but Alphys got done so dirty, she died in the only episode she had a speaking part in. Plus it's like... Sans came back after being killed off, as did Asriel, but Alphys was the only one who stayed dead. Tho I heard Sans died again? Idk. I kinda stopped watching after a while. No shade to those who love the series, tho.
@@Dorked yeah, Sans died again. And Gaster got a power boost and killed Betty. I didn't watch that far but bloody hell.
@@Dorked you know what sad, I need to confess; I love Betty and every character, it suck that not every got a change to heal or have a redemption ("cough cough" Betty and Jessica, chara, and frisk, and toriel) ok maybe Jessica did heal but it unfortunate that she have to die but I understand the transportation ball thing that I forgot, wasn't enough for both to get out of the rubble, and she did make amends for the bad things she has done just because she want to give her daughter justice. and learn about the backstory "the black beast" and make feel bad for the orange women(yes I forgot her name) of who is the cause of all of this.
There more I well love talk about like why I became a Undertale fan, how to make fan content that I need help with!! 🥺😫 And so much more; If you interested of course I'm mean this might shock you but I'm a sonic fan and Everytime when it come with sonic it pain me . You Undertale fans have it bad, just wait when get to see the sonic franchise, you will suffer forever and never be heal.
@@Dorked oh right I forgot about asgore, my fluffy goat dad, he really not my dad but it so cute say that just like goat mom. I don't know something about him make me feel safe when I see him. He amazing and badass thank to glitchtale and other Aus I no there not enough for him but I want this to happen to have that treatment 💕
It truly was the tumblr sexy man effect that pushed alphys on the backburner for every undertale fan story istg
damn you white boy turtleneck gaster
@@whisperwhisper1285 LMAO
Legit, I’ve been saying this since I first saw the game. I found myself really liking her character and really relating to her as someone with an anxiety disorder who just wants to be liked, so hearing people say that she’s a bad person broke my heart.
Ngl for a first playthrough she's fine, but the more and more I replayed the game, the more annoying she gets. Tbf, Undertale in general is just bad for replaying once you've done each route
my largest issue with Alphys is the hotland section, even on a first playthrough it's the lowest point of the game (even grinding in the ruins in genocide is more engaging), but other than that she's a great character. Great video as always!
See, I actually had a lot of fun with Hotland in my first run, but I do think making the texts optional or at least able to be toggled off in a second run would've been a nice quality of life feature.
I love alphys and I love this video! It is such a treat to see an almost hour long vid on a character that doesnt get much spotlight. I hope we get to see more of her in deltarune!
YES. There's so much potential to tap into how she got her job as teacher, her struggles to live up to Gerson's legacy, and her interpersonal relationships. I'd love to see something cool with her.
two sides to gaster interpretations:
The old royal scientist with an air of mystery, completely erased from history.
and
I THINK I SHIT MYSELF A LITTLE THIS TIME
I believe that Gaster was a previous Scientist who might have done some experiments, which Alphys picked up later. (Not all, Alphys clearly named and discovered “determination”) but I do not see him as an omnipotent being that can erase timelines and break the game itself.
@@Pouchster3300 it's kind of funny that you worded it like that, since that's exactly what he is in deltarune lmao
Thank God you made this. I've been waiting forever, the whole reason I'm subbed to you is because I saw you were working on this lol.
Eyy, thanks! Hope the wait paid off. :)
*When the alphys is actually a giga chad 😳*
Also will you ever consider making a video about undertale aus? It can be anything really, favorite/least favorite aus, things you would like to see more in aus, tips for making an undertale au, etc etc?
I wanna definitely do some content on AUs that I feel are done dirty by the fandom. Stuff like Undertoad and Storyshift that are drowned out by inaccurate fanon and stuff.
YAy!! Its here! I have been super excited for this video! Thank you on all the hard work you put in for these analysis videos.
Hope you enjoy! This has been in the works for a very, very long time.
Dorked, the TRUE BASED undertale fan
I feel like people hating Alphys might say a lot about the people hating on her. There's that popular quote about how the things that most annoy us about others is the things we hate about ourselves, right? Alphys is all of us, and I think that makes a lot of people uncomfortable.
My dumbass always thought the entry’s in the true lab belonged to gaster. Thanks for showing that they belonged to Alphys because I was giving her credit to gaster like an idiot.
Entry number 17 was written by Gaster. However, the others are written by Alphys (Alphys, 10/10 character)
But it makes since, the fandom has kinda made up their own lies, personality, and powers for Gaster, which I don’t know it I hate or like.
@@Pouchster3300 let’s just say people get creative 🫤
@@Pouchster3300 I believe Gaster had his own entries, and Alphys had her entries, as Alphys' entry 17 exists in the files
y'know, when i played undertale and encountered alphys all those years ago, i could relate to her. she was honestly one of my favorite characters, because she felt like a piece of myself. i'm really happy to see her be given justice here; there is so much more to her character than what the fandom makes of it.
Alphys is so smart, she outsmarts her own outsmarting of her outsmarting!
I absolutely adore these types of videos, the deep dives always make me appreciate all the characters even more!
This is honestly in my opinion one of the best researched and well put together Undertale videos I’ve seen. You did a fantastic job on this video. By the way, as someone who is planning on working on there own Undertale fan project/series in some shape or form videos like these are incredibly helpful. Congratulations you have earned yourself a subscriber.
Glad to hear it's helpful! I definitely like using my experiences making fan content and analyzing characters for good purposes like this. :)
Glad to see one of my favorite character get recognized! Alphys is so interesting both story wise and character wise, it's quite sad to see how many people in the fandom often brush her off, even though she's held quite an important role within the Undertale's lore
Also she knows how to build a phone with jetpack fechers in it, like come on, that's has to be one of the coolest things someone can do
If you haven't seen Alphys get recognised, you haven't been in the fandom long. Us lot who have been hear for years know that everyone loves Alphys. The statement that she is misunderstood and overlooked is simply untrue.
I honestly really liked Alphys, I liked the "annoying" dialogue during hotlands, loved the true lab, loved her entries, everything about her is amazing!
And I'm kinda ticked I don't really see her a lot as a character in most media (eg, most comic dubs or animatics like GT)
I adore her neutral ending. it's so raw and passionate despite her never crying or yelling or acting angry. you don't even have to look at her sprite to imagine exactly what she looks and sounds like at that veryy moment. it's BEAUTIFUL
An amazing video about one of the most underrated Undertale characters.
Hey, thanks! Glad you enjoyed.
This video is so refreshing to see in 2022. I'm so happy there are people who still think about Alphys and are giving her the attention she deserves to this day! She's a character who means a lot to me, this video made me so so happy, thank you so much! 💗
This was an awesome video! Would love to see one on someone like Asgore next, or perhaps a more minor character that still has a bit to talk about like the Mad Dummy or Napstablook. I'd also love to see a good lookthrough of Sans as an objective character in undertale (although i know you've done a few sans centric theories before.) in particular his morals and how if you look into it, he isn't exactly the nicest of people throughout the story. I mean.... he could've stopped you very easily in Snowdin, but didn't due to his apathy and belief nothing could change. He also mentions that he would've killed you if it wasn't for promising Toriel.
In short, Sans is far from what one could consider a 'Heroic' character like hes portrayed a lot in the fandom, and I feel like a deep analyzis of sans motives and ideals through the story would be fascinating. (This isn't coming from someone who's anti-sans by the way, I love him as a character. I just hate people who potray him as this hero of justice and determination who dunks the human and gives them a bad time every time they make a mild fuckup)
I actually did one on Mad Dummy/Mad Mew Mew a few months back. c:
@@Dorked Ah, thats great! I actually made a mild modification/edit right when you responded to the comment too. But yes, thanks for pulling apart the fact from fiction, as i feel a LOT of undertale theories mix in way too much hearsay and fandom numbo-jumbo. As much as i love the UT fandom and the concept of AUs, Its important to seperate them from the original art. :)
"He could've stopped you very easily in Snowdin"
With 1 atk and 1 def? He is the easiest monster, the game tells you that much.
I absolutely love the thought, care, love, and effort put into this video. Alphys is so so wonderful and such a great character. I love her very much, it's so lovely to see her getting the love and appreciation she deserves. I never made the connection of the buttercup seeds sticking to her as to why the flower beds are in the dump in waterfall, that is so clever!! She played an integral role in Undertale's story, there is a lot about her to explore. I've loved her role in Inverted Fate so far. This video is excellent, keep up the great work Dorked!! 💗💗
i'm so glad to see this amazing video after months of anticipation!! great job, kudos to you :)
ive been anticipating this video for a while, and wow i am glad you took your time. not over exaggerating, this is one of if not the best analysis videos ive seen on UT/DR. like really, really this was amazing! the composition and general analysis was really great, i understand alphys so much better now. thanks for making the awesome vid 👍
Yeah, I really wanted to make sure I didn't rush it, y'know? There's SO much meat to this character, and unlike Deltarune, which is an incomplete game, I wanted to really ruminate on all of the various ins and outs in Undertale. It goes to show just how much depth there is to her!
I've always been ashamed to say that Alphys is my favourite Undertale character so this video made me super happy. :) Love how in-depth you went with it.
Really great video Dorked, great to see it finally come out! I can tell you put a lot of time, effort, and love into it and I always appreciate seeing more Alphys appreciation. I think a lot of people don't give her the credit she deserves.
so glad to see an alphys analysis!!!! she's one of my favorite character ever, and one of two from undertale (mettaton, of course, but mostly because i love their relationship) BUT no one ever seems to get her right, or even choose to acknowledge her achievements! it is such a slight that gaster and sans are noted as the science important people when she's literally right there the whole game... i digress, you go over this in the video, too, which is wonderful to see!
i'm rambling, but only because i care about her a lot. thank you for making this!!!!!
THANK YOU for bringing up how Glitchtale fridges Alphys (I'm assuming that was your note given that no username tags were placed by it). I went to look deeper into potential problems with Glitchtale and I was a little shocked actually. Got me out of that community real fast actually, and it wasn't even the actual plot that was mentioned (Search up Camila if you're interested, it's sad tbh). It's also helped me consider my own choices as a writer. Honestly, thank you for all of the character analyses and everything, it's helped me to appreciate this game so much more. Again, thank you :)
Yeah, the plot was no better either. Just your typical edgy 13-year old fanfiction that kills off all the characters in favor for OC's
To make matters worse, she killed Sans TWICE not because of plot progression, but just to piss off the Sans fans
Honestly, I never thought about the entry’s as Alphys being in an emotionally different state, but it does definitely make sense! It does make sense though because when I think about it a bit more, while I do think sans and alphys did work together, sans was more focused on the resets and the different timelines, as seen by his room and the secret romp behind his house. Still, he did have at least some connection to the lab, as proven by papyrus noticing the bag of dog food.
I always love these character analysis videos! I think Toby Fox characters in general are so fascinating and have so many layers, so it's great hearing more info on them! All your videos go really in-depth, and your work is greatly appreciated!
this video is so incredibly well made !!! even after being in the fandom for years i still learned some new things :D