Why 1 in 3 Antwerp Team Stickers are AWFUL - CS GO INVESTING

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  • @0kayegs577
    @0kayegs577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been exactly thinking about this and yet this is the first video I've seen that addresses this topic so salute to you fugo! Most Stockholm stickers use the classic rainbow holo effect with a few colors changed or positioned differently which is very rare as many major stickers since 2015 don't use the classic rainbow holo effect. And for the teams who have participated in stockholm and antwerp valve just reused the same holo effects but made the colors colder/less saturated. And only for the teams that did not participate stockholm (9z,cloud9,imperial, eternal fire,complexity... etc.) they went and made brand new stickers and thats why those stickers have more vibrant colors. This is a big deal since most stockholm holo's naturally look better because of this reason. Now holos are 5x more rarer in antwerp but when you look at the market only a few of them cost 5x more than what stockholm stickers cost during 75% off sale. And that is indeed solid proof that valve designed stockholm stickers with more care and effort and the community responds to it as so by showing more demand to stockholm stickers.

    • @0kayegs577
      @0kayegs577 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      tldr: people like vibrant colors, stockholm has good colors antwerp does not.

    • @fugojohn
      @fugojohn  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very well said and opened up my eyes to what you've said regards the rainbow holo effect for Stockholm, it's indeed different to others, unseen and actually increadibly good looking compared to the new Antwerp one which seems like the rainbow is there was well, but the positioning has been changed and colors saturated reduces.
      Also agree regards reused sticker effect being visibly different compared to the new ones which you mentioned (9z,cloud9,imperial, eternal fire,complexity) which is weird that they did that, but then again I kind of understand, since new stickers should look special in some way I guess. Also I doubt we will ever know why they put such a bad effort in Antwerp stickers, personally kind of dissapointing.
      Regards the price. I do agree, now that hype has kind of slowed down for Antwerp we can see better and much realistic values on the market. The shift has changed and community actions and thoughts about specific items reflect on the price and demand. That's pretty cool to think about.

    • @0kayegs577
      @0kayegs577 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fugojohn I think valve knew that despite lacking in design and effort antwerp capsules would perform good. I think they could foresee this because of few logical reasons. First of all, community saw how profitable stockholm stickers were and that increased the amount of capsules purchased (listed sales are close to a million now, stockholm was half of it). Also even if antwerp stickers flops in the long run, the community believes they could profit right after the end of the sale (guaranteed profit). Second reason is the fact that they introduced glitter stickers which caused a lot of hype for the capsules early on, despite recieving poor demand after all. Third reason is that even though these stickers would be worse looking than stockholm, valve knew how valuable the borderless sticker design is and how the community has a large thirst for clean stickers. Forth, (and this is the most critically genius move) they made holo stickers exotic rarity which made people open more capsules then they would in order to get their desired holo stickers. Everyone knows that foils never looked better than holo stickers, in fact almost all holo/foil capsulesi holo's cost more than foils despite being 6x less rare. And lastly, they have utter control of sale duration which is something that they have been practicing for their own profit more in the recent majors. By these facts valve could have released the laziest stickers they could and they would still secure billions of dollars. Which they did with rmrs and people bit the bait xD They have been in this game for far too long, every move they make is strategically engineered to make them money and even if they look lazy nor caring for their content, they still know how to make money.

    • @fugojohn
      @fugojohn  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@0kayegs577 I totaly agree with you, I had similar ideas why they might have done that. When I saw those stickers I was really dissapointed in PGL and Valve in general for the lack of quality, but it is what it is, they knew they will make huge cash from all the clueless hype investors and regulars of course as well. Currently they are milking these capsules dry. Highlikely they will remove them when CS will turn 10 years old which I'd assume will be a huge update with the rumors we have received and so on, but that shit is so late which will make copied stickers pretty bad investments or maybe Antwerp stickers in general, expect Autographs capsules and holo's, they should perform the best.

    • @0kayegs577
      @0kayegs577 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fugojohn I aggree about the autograph capsules. Rox holo seems to be the new mouz holo, if the hype doesn't die its gonna pull the contenders capsule all by itself.

  • @SkyZ03
    @SkyZ03 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Antwerp holos are more value because they are rarer, it makes sense, they are now pink rarity instead of purple

    • @fugojohn
      @fugojohn  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You think Every Antwerp holo are more valuable than Stockholm's because they are 5x rare?
      Btw, aren't you the guy who assumed that Stockholm 2021 Challengers value was that high because of a MOUZ sticker? Lmao

    • @SkyZ03
      @SkyZ03 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fugojohn even if these major stickers look similar, price is still mostly based on item rarity, u said in video that higher value makes no sense, it's just not true it have sense, holos are now rarer from Antwerp so in order to have antwerp Holo u need to pay more as it's harder to obtain

    • @fugojohn
      @fugojohn  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SkyZ03 lmao, someone should go study e commers or business basics before assuming that case unboxing rarity is all that matters. Sorry to dissapoint your uneducated mind, but It seems like you've never heard about supply and demand, yet i'm not surprised, ur following CykaHotFire...
      Apparantly the proof of faze holos for both majors being priced similarly in the video isn't enough to make you understand that your assuption is wrong. The price is driven by demand not the rarity, when you have two identical stickers, supply becomes as ONE. As someone who crafts, will prioritize cheapest sticker or better looking one which will remove the supply from them and driving their price up until they become even value which at the same time doesn't positively impact Antwerps price because supply hasn't changed nor the demand. Reason why liquid is so expensive is because people are assuming the sticker is unique and looks purple on skins not the lack of supply. Also someone is forgetting how overinvested Antwerp is compared to Stockholm and assums Antwerp's holo supply will be significantly lower than Stockholms, what a silly boy.
      By the way I'm not saying every holo stickers rarity doesn't matter, because it matters when the item is unique like 9z, complexity, Outsiders, C9, but it doesn't matter when item isn't unique like Renegades, Faze, Liquid, NiP or being trash in general, because natural demand and supply reduction is what matters at the end of the day not illogical investments on things where supply and demand will be the lowest.
      I will have a video responding to people like you and explaining similarly, but anyways Thank you for wasting my time me explain you basic stuff nor I don't think you will change your mind anyways haha.
      P.S. Before you argue, do your research. Thanks

    • @SkyZ03
      @SkyZ03 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fugojohn i said MOSTLY, and btw beying toxic everywhere doesn't favor you, i don't follow what CykaHotFire uploads from long time as i realized its bullshit but thanks for inspecting anything u can to use as argument. I know what supply and demand means. Yea i know some holos have same prizes as some holos drop more often than others, thats also what affects the price. I myself opened a lot of capsules and noticed how often i drop Sener1 stickers and how rarerly rox for example. Demand and supply is not the only thing that made the price, it is in fact controlling it but if ex. monesy gold is very rare then its price was from beginning very high and as its rare, even after the sale, after supply increased, from what u said price should go down but that didnt happen and more than that, it went up. And there are tons of examples where supply/demand is not working as u said because it is not the only important thing.

    • @fugojohn
      @fugojohn  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@SkyZ03 If you say so, sure, I'm toxic.
      Someone who wouldn't follow him wouldn't make a comment 5 days ago on he's video, that's not a long time ago. So why you have to lie? Unless you're watching he's vids for Entertainment then i'll understand. At least we are likeminded regards our thoughts about that HotFire guy.
      I really don't understand why you're telling me your experience gambling with capsules, it's irrelevant, you're basing your judgment on your unlucky experience.
      Did I ever say rarity doesn't matter or you implied that I said it doesn't when I was clearly talking about duplicated 1 to 1's where it didn't matter? I even literally mentioned in the video when talking about Antwerp Furia Holo $3, that it's value is fair because it actually represents something different, it's unique and is less common than the old Stockholm Furia Holo $1.7. It looks like you're reading and listening what you want, not what you receive. Literal definition of being rare is having low supply that is unusually good, unique, sought-after and that brings demand, so just because something meets that one criteria, being lower drop rate doesn't mean it's rare, so not being unique, unusually good or sought-after, naturally makes the item less valuable. Demand is a necessity for something to go up or down in value. And while you will hope those copy pasta stickers will become valuable in the future, which could be, but by how much though!? During that waiting time also there could appear a new sticker which would make the already un-unique sticker redundant by a new Liquid sticker.
      You even gave an example of Monesy and Rox holo/gold which is irrelevant to the argument, but ok. Even then I'm aware that being unique, sought-after and being in a low drop pool, they becomes classified as rare thus making it valuable which will naturally increase the value to the point until demand doesn't support it anymore. If people are aware what they are buying into and selling items for the price, the price will be supported at the price sellers put them at, but when we are talking about these liquid, g2 stickers, people aren't aware of their real worth, they aren't unique, yet they still push the price up and support it, which is like investing into pump & dump scheme, because they think they are investing in a purple color or red color design, but in reality something else. Obviously m0nesy price is so high because it's he's first autograph, he's potentially futures next best player, a lot of people and even I value he's sticker at current price. Rox holo/gold have the similar situation, when people become aware those are the best looking stickers from the capsules, obviously they will buy them and push or support the price until they find it not valuable at that price. Also you have to understand that if you purchase something and decide to collect the stickers, you basically reduced the supply of the sticker from circulation for a while and when demand is greater than Supply or we can say Seller amount, price will go up, but if there will be more selling demand compared to buying demand, price falls. Also how can you compare unique rox, monesy sticker to copy pasta holo's which are obviously not unique based on the reasons I talked about in the video and in the comment section?

  • @philla8916
    @philla8916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    you cant possibly , compare these stickers. they got different holo effects and color schemes + the ingraved background is different. also they removed the foil sticker this time that makes them naturally more expensive since they are now the pinks with lower % to get.

    • @knz2894
      @knz2894 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, but in a sense he is right; contenders capsules are a lot more popular as an investment as they include teams which will most likely not appear ever again. Even though antwerp holos are rarer since they've replaced foils in terms of rarity, many stockolm holos are better than or on par with the looks of antwerp holos. So people will want to get stockolm holos since they're cheaper to buy for crafts.

    • @fugojohn
      @fugojohn  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      When both stickers look literally the same with even similar holo effect exept the organizer name, I can't compare them? You can literaly see faze, g2, navi, renegades and more with with same holo effect, hella similar design. Just because it's 5x rarer doesn't mean it's worth more as price depends on demand not supply... Look at the price of both holo's of navi, faze, renegade, they price the same even though Antwerp is 5x rarer, that proves my statement right.
      You really think people gonna buy rarer sticker to apply when they can buy the same one for cheaper?
      The ones which are naturaly more expensive are the ones which are different and even that I showed on the video - Furia.

    • @philla8916
      @philla8916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fugojohn they look similar but are not the same. Of course people gonna apply or buy the cheaper ones when they look almost the same with slightly different holo effects. But you will see the new pinks will get significantly more expensive than the Stockholm version because of the rarity. We can argue into eternity, what has more demand, but you will see that at the end of the day the rarity will set the price not necessarily the demand.
      Even If Antwerp would get oversaturated like the Rmr we’re, you would see that the rare stickers to get from that capsule would be more expensive.

    • @fugojohn
      @fugojohn  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@philla8916 as i said, the Price for most 1 to 1 holo's ar close to the same with minimal change in detail which has irrelevant difference ( unless you're a clueless investor who doesn't care about the game ), nor it matter if one is rarer if they look 1 to 1, both stickers become as one supply and if supply is higher than demand, price falls, if supply is lower it rises, both should be affected similarly and it proves me right with mentioned Navi, Renegade, Faze stickers. My statement on the video wasn't wrong, situation like liquid, g2, faze, navi devalue capsules and stickers making them more oversaturated and specific antwerp capsule or sticker even less desired when some Stockholm look even better than Antweps, which has to drive the price down.
      Just because something is prices higher (g2, liquid), doesn't mean the price is correct, u don't think that can't be overhyped and overvalued which is the culprit of price increase or every price value always make sense?
      I'm not talking about what will happen in long future, that's just stating the obvious, things gonna go up, but by how much and compared to others How Much?
      Videos goal is about what is the most profitable or could say least riskiest. If you value those stickers as you're telling us, then go buy Antwerp liquid, g2, faze, navi, renegade and others at this price.

    • @kubie6798
      @kubie6798 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@philla8916 u on crack dude ? "similar ? they are almost exact the same only than stockholm looks better

  • @MrBrazilGameplays
    @MrBrazilGameplays 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the truth is hard to swallow, honest youtuber this day receive negative feedback, the truth is rarity doenst means demand and doesnt mean the price will got high, keeping that in mid i invested in autographs cause they will have demand and has rarity also are uniques.

    • @fugojohn
      @fugojohn  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, well said. 🙏
      If not a secret, what type of autographs have you invested into? 😊

    • @MrBrazilGameplays
      @MrBrazilGameplays 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fugojohn memecraft (floppy holo) and famous players who certainly will win something near future + good holo (Art, xyp9x, broky, fallen, drop).

    • @MrBrazilGameplays
      @MrBrazilGameplays 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I frequently use edgy reddits like csgo market sometime they drop nice data but mostly they are high egos investors(kind cringey) and mostly like some haters here they think rarity and scarcity always profit or make the truth like a maneuver to justify their investments, i remember they hating mouz holo looks now... or talking stockholms are dead because they fucked up their wallet at rmr or bad cases hype xd

    • @fugojohn
      @fugojohn  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrBrazilGameplays You know what you're doing, that's great. I didn't even notice that floppy had a meme behind he's autograph xd
      That's actually cool, I almost have the same investment plans and decisions made like you, I will make a video regards to that.

    • @fugojohn
      @fugojohn  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrBrazilGameplays Yeah exactly, that's why I try to avoid them. Number are great, they come in handy, but listening to BIAS/assumption opinion is never a thing for me.
      Yup, I remember people talking about Stockholm being a flop, I literally did the opposite lowkey expecting it to be the safest investment of my life, I bought loads of capsules and then at low price bought a bunch of holo and gold stickers, now I have sold all at close to the top and slowly planning to buy back some unique ones.
      I remember planning on buying mouz at around $8 when it first spiked up, but forgot to check back until it spiked back up, so I never got in, since the price was to high for my liking.
      How was your Stockholm investment experience?

  • @gigigeorge8469
    @gigigeorge8469 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for this video I just subscribed

  • @kubie6798
    @kubie6798 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lol this is actually super important thanks for the info

  • @SabanLeon
    @SabanLeon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i got contenders autographs and i hope it raises in price a lot :3 idk why are people so obsessed with legends tho

    • @fugojohn
      @fugojohn  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They definitely will, unless in near future we will se better autographs, but unfortunately we don't know how long it eill take for it to rise.
      Are you talking about autograph legends or the legends Team capsule?

    • @SabanLeon
      @SabanLeon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fugojohn team capsule is kinda overinvested in imo even tho it has some nice stickers... I just got the good looking stickers (c9 holo , 9z holo and eth fire holo) and contenders autograph capsules cause 9z holos look amazing... I dont think we will get better autographs soon tho :)

    • @fugojohn
      @fugojohn  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SabanLeon Agree. legends team stickers are 100% overinvested, other two most likely could be as well, but contenders do have some chance to pop highest out of all 3 because of the unique stickers which actually look good. I have a positive outlook on autographs, that's for sure.

  • @adddamch
    @adddamch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what would you buy ? (holo team stickers)

    • @fugojohn
      @fugojohn  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I personally have some 9z, Outsiders and Complexity picked up. Reasons why, they have unique colors, Complexity has a special symbol, all three of them fit great with crafts which is key.
      Have you picked up anything yourself yet?

    • @adddamch
      @adddamch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fugojohn Not yet.. prices are so much pumped. I am waiting for some dump. Or worth buying now?

    • @fugojohn
      @fugojohn  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adddamch it's worth depending where you buying. Do you make purchases on 3rd party markets, if so, which ones?

  • @xRedyy_
    @xRedyy_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your video is mosty nonsens antwerp holo prices are big cuz they are rarer 😐

    • @fugojohn
      @fugojohn  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Navi, renegades, faze and some others are prices similarly even though Antwerp is 5x rarer. Cpw Stockholm are 2x more expensive than Antwerp holo's btw, yet they are 5x more common. Rarity doesn't mean it's more valuable.
      Please check my pinned comment on thr video.

  • @bay6_
    @bay6_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imperial golds = mouz golds? I think imperial golds have potential but I'm not sure.

    • @fugojohn
      @fugojohn  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      High likely it won't be next Mouz, because of how invested those capsules will be. Logo itself looks sweet I agree, but never buy into something you're not certain about. What I can suggest is to reduce risks, is wait when operation comes, price will drop to it's true value or even lower which would be even better. During that time you will be able to evaluate if it's worth or not to buy as there will be no hype involved and you'll have better numbers known regards Antwerp investments in general. Hope that helped.

    • @bay6_
      @bay6_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fugojohn It really helped me. Thanks for advice.

  • @kuba02
    @kuba02 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    antwerp holos are rarer

    • @fugojohn
      @fugojohn  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Navi, renegades, faze and some others are prices similarly even though Antwerp is 5x rarer. Cpw Stockholm are 2x more expensive than Antwerp holo's btw, yet they are 5x more common. Rarity doesn't mean it's more valuable.
      Please check my pinned comments reply