On your top pulley pin, drill a 3/16” hole thru the center of your pin to the center. Then drill a 1/8” hole across the center pin. Tap a 1/4” thread & place a zero fitting in the thread. Then grease once a week, pulley & pin last a lot longer.Also reduces friction when wrenching. I have done this for over 40 years, good luck 👍
Grease everything up, apart from making sure that all the moving parts lasting longer, it saves a load of friction, getting more winch power to the object and a smoother pull. Another tip I’d suggest is winding the plasma rope onto the drum in an overlapping cross-cross fashion. Unlike steel rope, the plasma rope can get ‘locked-in’ under load if you wind it neat like you did, or would do with steel wire. Under load, because it’s much more flexible, it can get pulled down between the wraps and can jam, making it hard to run-off by hand on free-spool. Criss-crossing it onto the drum helps to spread the load on the rope, and stop it jamming in. 👍🏻 After using plasma for a few years now, I’d much prefer it to steel wire rope. Mind you, I don’t do as much heavy winching as you do, so you may not like it as much. Although it’s breaking strength can be equal or greater than steel wire, it’s way more fragile than steel if your winching over rocks and gravels, so it’s a good idea to have some 2x4 handy to give the plasma rope a smoother ride over rough terrain (winching over a berm for example to recover from a deep ditch or a gully). Best of luck with it, hope you like it, it’s way more easy to handle than steel, and you don’t get ripped up from fishhooks 🇷🇴🇬🇧👍🏻
Nice one Eric I'm just getting a new with rope. All my other ones are cable. We not got as many good place is to go over here in UK and we call it green laneing most off the trucks you boys over will not fit down are lanes but we do have some fun and we do have to ues are winch is some times. But we do night laneing over here and u don't want to go out in to some of the places we go at night with out a winch. U all have fun at the weekend. It makes me a bit mad at moment that I no u are all going for a play this weekend. Both off my trucks are off the road at moment and both off my mates are off the road as well we. Do play hard some time we have one with blown engine other one with blown gearbox. And my 2 well we won't go there. U all have from Andy in UK
do you have any velcro closed cable shield for your new synthetic cable.. so you can protect the last few feet against sharp edges under trucks.. even a few feet of firehose you could have an upholstery shop split open and add velcro.. or just pull the hook and slip a 2' piece up the end of the rope..
Keep us informed on how you feel about that new winch cable my friend. .... we are all interested in it's performance when compared to the steel cable.
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We tested switching the aircraft cargo winch to synthetic to save weight, (on a 585,000lb airplane), and they ended up wearing out twice as fast as the stainless steel cable.
Since you had to change the pulley to be compatible with the rope. Will any of your snatch blocks need to have there pulleys changed as well? What is the difference of strength between the rope and the cable? How many feet of rope did you spool on to the winch??
That red rope sheath you put on the drum should be at the hook end of the cable. On a typical winch setup it's meant for two things, to cover the rope as the last wrap to keep it out of the sun. The second thing is to place it in line on top of rocks and such as to not score your rope when winching. You're wasting it keeping it on the drum like that.
Snatch block you used for wire cable will not work well with synthetic line. Be sure you keep a cover on your winch. UV light is the biggest enemy and breaks down the fibers. Better to run a thimble on than a hook.
rope is lighter for people trying to save weight does not whip as bad when it breaks. but if dragged across rocks or other objects it does weaken the rope.
On my 12,000 lb winch the steel cable is pretty darn heavy at 100 feet. I have two coiled up in the garage. The rope is so light it basically weighs nothing by comparison. I could take some weight measurements but I bet it would take 800 feet or more of 3/8 amsteel to equal that 100 feet of steel cable.
I have a vr10000 lb Warn winch. I normally go on logging roads and bush trail as well as mud. Would you recomend wire or synthetic on a front mount winch?
dirty roofer I was going to say the same thing ! If the rope does in fact work out well ya could always return or sell the cable I've used a synithic rope but still trust the cable more its never failed me once ...
Its better than a cable. It is stronger than the same size cable, It is lighter to carry around than a cable, You dont get splinters from it like you can from a cable. It doesn't have memory like a cable. It doesn't stretch like a cable. It is hella safer than a cable. Did I mention it floats? Now the downside is that it is more expensive than a cable and it will wear out a bit faster than a cable. It wears out faster because it is made up of thousands of ridiculously small fibers that can chaff pretty easy.
with the same diameter a quick google shows its stronger www.amazon.com/AUXMART-Synthetic-20500LBs-Protective-Sleeve/dp/B01MQ6EPQU www.amazon.com/WINCH-CABLE-GALVANIZED-strength-OFF-ROAD/dp/B004VRO5E0
On your top pulley pin, drill a 3/16” hole thru the center of your pin to the center. Then drill a 1/8” hole across the center pin. Tap a 1/4” thread & place a zero fitting in the thread. Then grease once a week, pulley & pin last a lot longer.Also reduces friction when wrenching. I have done this for over 40 years, good luck 👍
I want to try something similar with a dry lube.
Grease everything up, apart from making sure that all the moving parts lasting longer, it saves a load of friction, getting more winch power to the object and a smoother pull.
Another tip I’d suggest is winding the plasma rope onto the drum in an overlapping cross-cross fashion. Unlike steel rope, the plasma rope can get ‘locked-in’ under load if you wind it neat like you did, or would do with steel wire.
Under load, because it’s much more flexible, it can get pulled down between the wraps and can jam, making it hard to run-off by hand on free-spool. Criss-crossing it onto the drum helps to spread the load on the rope, and stop it jamming in. 👍🏻
After using plasma for a few years now, I’d much prefer it to steel wire rope. Mind you, I don’t do as much heavy winching as you do, so you may not like it as much. Although it’s breaking strength can be equal or greater than steel wire, it’s way more fragile than steel if your winching over rocks and gravels, so it’s a good idea to have some 2x4 handy to give the plasma rope a smoother ride over rough terrain (winching over a berm for example to recover from a deep ditch or a gully).
Best of luck with it, hope you like it, it’s way more easy to handle than steel, and you don’t get ripped up from fishhooks 🇷🇴🇬🇧👍🏻
Great videos keep up the good work and hope to see you on the trails one day.
Nice one Eric I'm just getting a new with rope. All my other ones are cable. We not got as many good place is to go over here in UK and we call it green laneing most off the trucks you boys over will not fit down are lanes but we do have some fun and we do have to ues are winch is some times. But we do night laneing over here and u don't want to go out in to some of the places we go at night with out a winch. U all have fun at the weekend. It makes me a bit mad at moment that I no u are all going for a play this weekend. Both off my trucks are off the road at moment and both off my mates are off the road as well we. Do play hard some time we have one with blown engine other one with blown gearbox. And my 2 well we won't go there. U all have from Andy in UK
Hopefully we see some safe recoveries happen with the new stuff asap
It will be interesting to see how it holds up
do you have any velcro closed cable shield for your new synthetic cable.. so you can protect the last few feet against sharp edges under trucks.. even a few feet of firehose you could have an upholstery shop split open and add velcro.. or just pull the hook and slip a 2' piece up the end of the rope..
Cant wait to see you test it
Keep us informed on how you feel about that new winch cable my friend. .... we are all interested in it's performance when compared to the steel cable.
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@Archie Kevin Thanks for your reply. I found the site through google and im in the hacking process atm.
Seems to take a while so I will reply here later with my results.
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We tested switching the aircraft cargo winch to synthetic to save weight, (on a 585,000lb airplane), and they ended up wearing out twice as fast as the stainless steel cable.
thanks guys have a good time out there and be safe ... †
Since you had to change the pulley to be compatible with the rope. Will any of your snatch blocks need to have there pulleys changed as well? What is the difference of strength between the rope and the cable? How many feet of rope did you spool on to the winch??
Hows the new winch line working out?hope al is well.👍🇺🇸
Cant wait to see how it works out.
That red rope sheath you put on the drum should be at the hook end of the cable. On a typical winch setup it's meant for two things, to cover the rope as the last wrap to keep it out of the sun. The second thing is to place it in line on top of rocks and such as to not score your rope when winching. You're wasting it keeping it on the drum like that.
There is a black one on the hook end, the red one is to tell you your almost at the end.
@@offroadrecoveryteam gotcha. Sorry I didn't catch that. Good deal then.
Are your snatch blocks big enough for that new rope?
you got you moneys worth out of that cable and pulley
You must have ordered that from AW Direct
Any updates on how it’s been working?
Snatch block you used for wire cable will not work well with synthetic line. Be sure you keep a cover on your winch. UV light is the biggest enemy and breaks down the fibers. Better to run a thimble on than a hook.
Really enjoy watching this ol man! broke stuck an fucked what a name haha
What is the weight difference between the steel cable and the rope
Brad Balladarsch exactly what i was going to ask. On my atv for 50 foot it was about 4-5 pounds difference
rope is lighter for people trying to save weight does not whip as bad when it breaks. but if dragged across rocks or other objects it does weaken the rope.
On my 12,000 lb winch the steel cable is pretty darn heavy at 100 feet. I have two coiled up in the garage. The rope is so light it basically weighs nothing by comparison. I could take some weight measurements but I bet it would take 800 feet or more of 3/8 amsteel to equal that 100 feet of steel cable.
I have a vr10000 lb Warn winch. I normally go on logging roads and bush trail as well as mud. Would you recomend wire or synthetic on a front mount winch?
I have been a steel cable guy for durability, but I like the way synthetic spools up on the drum, and it has held up good on the wrecker so far.
@@offroadrecoveryteam that is the way I am leaning towards (cable). Just need to be a bit more lean on the safety.
I thought the sheath was to protect the end by the hook.
Has a black one at that end.
Where is the mud party in Wisconsin
Trollhaugen Ski area, Dresser WI. www.memorial4x4.org
Really that rope can't be better than a cable I'd keep a spare cable in the truck
dirty roofer I was going to say the same thing ! If the rope does in fact work out well ya could always return or sell the cable I've used a synithic rope but still trust the cable more its never failed me once ...
I have never seen a Jeep run into the side of a car when the rope snapped on a roll back. Can't say that for cable.
Rope
amsteel is stronger and has no elastic snap when it breaks, only down side, it can chafe easier
Its better than a cable. It is stronger than the same size cable, It is lighter to carry around than a cable, You dont get splinters from it like you can from a cable. It doesn't have memory like a cable. It doesn't stretch like a cable. It is hella safer than a cable. Did I mention it floats?
Now the downside is that it is more expensive than a cable and it will wear out a bit faster than a cable. It wears out faster because it is made up of thousands of ridiculously small fibers that can chaff pretty easy.
I like the blue
Take that old cable cut into two inch pieces give to the people you pull out
What web site did you order the hook off of?
The hooks I saw with a wide yoke were from Warn, they call it there Epic hook. I got the big red one from AW Direct
Rope can pull more weight than cable
really?
Lier depends how big or thick it is
And rope will dry rott and cable last longer
with the same diameter a quick google shows its stronger
www.amazon.com/AUXMART-Synthetic-20500LBs-Protective-Sleeve/dp/B01MQ6EPQU
www.amazon.com/WINCH-CABLE-GALVANIZED-strength-OFF-ROAD/dp/B004VRO5E0
What is the website for the hook
Jake Jimenez www.Amazon.com that what he said in the video.
For the rope not the hook
The hooks I saw with a wide yoke were from Warn, they call it there Epic hook. I got the big red one from AW Direct.
Go back to cable that shit sucks I off road almost everyday it last me 2 weeks stick to cable
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