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Why Do Yorgos Lanthimos' Movies Feel So Weird?
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In The Lobster, director Yorgos Lanthimos constructs a bizarre and absurd world. In this video, I examine the unique way Lanthimos constructs the strange realities is creates in The Lobster, The Killing of A Sacred Deer, and his new short NIMIC. And how he uses those worlds for social commentary.
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"is it harder to pretend to have feelings for someone when you don't, or to pretend you don't when you do." One of the lines from The Lobster, perfectly sums this beautiful film up.
Very good question.
I know I'm pretty randomly asking but do anyone know a good site to stream newly released movies online?
@Oakley Jensen Flixportal :D
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Yorgos Lanthimos's characters are unnerving, I feel, not because they have something to hide but rather, on the contrary, because of their absolute transparency. It is the fact that they explicitly share their feelings, plans, and desires, even when it seems unwarranted or better left unstated. I think this is what contributes to the "uncanny" atmosphere of all his films.
If one does this, why would they and how would that be percieved by others, what is that characteristic representative of
Dogtooth, The Lobster, Killing of a Sacred Deer and The Favourite? This guy has potential to be of the greats
he is
I messed up when I booked my ticket to watch The Favourite and bought a seat for 12 hours later. That was their only showing of the day so I watched Mary Queen of Scots instead. Just happened to also be about a British monarch too. It was okay. Still have yet to watch The Favourite but I do have the book however not yet read it either.
StickManApple Don’t read the book. Make sure to catch the film.
feel like he already is
His other film, Alps, is still his best, imho.
The hotel manager looking like the Queen of England to me tho
Which one though?
Both are Olivia Coleman.
Olivia Colman is wonderful
How 'bout her partner - the bald man - looking like Alfred Hitchcock? I was half expecting him to bring out a camera and start filming the guests
I've been a fan of her ever since Mitchell & Webb, but I can't quite get past the fact that no matter what role she's playing, she always just sounds like Olivia Colman. She's kinda like Michael Caine in that regard. So I don't think she was a good choice to play The Queen, because (unlike Claire Foy, who absolutely nailed it) she can't do any voice other than her own. Even when she put on a West Country accent in Hot Fuzz, she still just sounded like Olivia Colman trying to do a funny voice.
What I understood from Lobster was the same thing I got from the Fight club - if you try to escape from the system, you will end up in another system.
That's a really good point.
but i love that the character actually tried to escape the second system too, and when he did that, i think the last scene shows like the choice he had to face (spoiler), hurt/mutilate himself in order to be loved and fit or not? he already had rejected other systems that where like that, but this time he has doubts and he might do it. i find that pretty interesting. like maybe "L'enfer c'est les autres" and you will always have to repress a part of yourself in order to live in society, or maybe not. or maybe being alone is better. who knows. i like that the ending is open in that sense.
to simplify it like that is really lame. That kind conclusion lacks any depth.
I think it’s more about how people choose to make their lives dependent on the look or other trivial things.
That’s not really it though…
This honestly reminds me a bit of Kafka! We read Metamorphosis the other day in German class, and in that book none of the family question why the protagonist Georg woke up as a bug one morning. Of course, they are scared of it and worry etc, but neither them nor Georg himself even once ask the question of what happened. I’ve only read that one book, but apparently Kafka does that a lot. He seems to have had a lot in similar with this director! :)
I was thinking the same thing!
Sehr spannend :)
That's what I thought, it's the same feeling
Read more of Kafka. He is amazing
The idea of someone literally becoming a cockroach is absurd, and a discussion of the 'how' would make Metamorphosis or The Lobster different stories entirely. Clearly, the absurdity is meant to be accepted by the reader without question, as the characters in these stories do.
This is basically a dream converted into a movie… dreams often have strange settings and different realities but you almost never questioning anything you just accept that things are the way they are.
thank you for highlighting one of my favorite directors. such an absurd, distant and cold feeling to everything in his films. The Killing Of A Sacred Deer is one of my favorite movies of all time. excellent video as always
Rewatched The Killing of A Sacred Deer for this and it's brilliant.
that movie has some of the best camerawork/zooms in recent memory even though it is incredibly kubrick inspired it has an amazing visual style
I agree. Killing of a Sacred Deer is an absolute masterpiece and the closest any director has come to the tonality and imagery of Kubrick, whilst still being completely original and having the Yoros signature. I can’t praise it enough.
by far my favorite yoros film
Really an amazing movie!
Did you change the thumbnail to feature the new film?
Clever way to play around the system without completely surrender to it.
Right? I was so confused for a second.
yes, I was confused for a sec and thinking this would start off with Poor Things. I had no clue the director worked on The Lobster too! I remember finding that film really interesting too.
I went to watch this video just because of the thumbnail AND because it was uploaded 3 years ago, lmao.
Same here haha
but it seems he changed it once again : /
I go the hotel where this was set almost every year. It's in Kerry, it's so wierd watching this film considering I've had breakfast in the same room
Which hotel? Holiday planning.
I just realized that the feeling that his movies give off is the same feeling that you get when recalling a dream. Even though you may be cast into the most bizarre, nonsensical situation, you almost never question it. It’s taken at face value, and you just move on. And that’s how his characters are.
I have to watch this again
Hello
I love his films because for me, as an autistic person, it is firstly comforting to see characters who talk unhinged without hurting anybody. Secondly, it shows me a reflection of our world and how it feels to live in a world like ours with so many strange rules, crazy laws and expectations. His movies depict how it feels to live in this world for me. Imagine living in a Yorgos Lanthimos' Movie and being the only one noticing it. It is exhausting to say the least.
I have never been diagnosed with anything, but i do feel this outsider feeling. Like i see this insane world full of crazy rules traditions and societal "norms" that make absolutly no sense. Yet ppl follow them blindly because thats how things are. Interesting to say the least, The spectrim of austism is not understood. I very well could be considered as such. School was easy for me. So much so i retain knowledge without trying. Even activly ignoring things will not prevent me from retaining them. I really hope someday we figure out our brains. So fasinating and we know so little
This is such a good introduction into his films. What I love about them so much, especially in the killing of a sacred deer, is that all the weirdness already lies in the lines, the characters say them even without any emotion so the absurdity of what they are talking about comes up even clearer and cleaner.
The Swedish director Roy Anderson has a somewhat similar style in his trilogy of films (Songs From The Second Floor, You The Living, and A Pigeon Sat On A Branch Reflecting On Existence).
Thanks for the tip! Quentin Dupieux (Steak, Rubber, Wrong, Reality) also has some interesting worlds, though a bit more meta as he's gone along.
@@sanblasto @SifatShams Bingo! I used to wonder why no one knows about these two brilliant directors! But now found you both.
Cheers guys!! You're awesome. :)
Aki Kaurismakki also
I just posted here that if you like Lanthimos you should look up Chris Morris's old TV show 'Jam.' I don't know of anything else that's as much like Lanthimos.
roy is much more deep
I thought this video was recent cuz of the thumbnail
Was shocked to see it be made three years ago hahahaha
My favorite director. His films make humanity based fully on the true intentions of the characters. It’s a bold way to make people less fake and more relatable while they are almost alien.
Dogtooth is one of the few films that I still think about years after seeing it. You hit the nail on the head in this video: Dogtooth asks us to consider the rules we accept in our own lives. What are things we been taught to believe on such a deep, fundamental level that we might not even think to question them? Even when we think we are defying authority, is our concept of what rebellion is still shaped by unexamined frameworks?
*SPOILERS* for the end of Dogtooth:
One of the girls decides to run away from home. It's an act of rebellion against her parents, isn't it? But first, she knocks out one of her canine teeth, because she was raised to believe that children become adults when a 'dogtooth' falls out. And she hides in the trunk of her father's car when she could easily run away on foot, because she was raised to believe it was incredibly dangerous to leave the house except in the car. At the end of the film, we don't know if she'll get out of the trunk and truly get away. And even if she does, her understanding of reality has been so fundamentally warped; will she ever be able to unlearn what she's been taught? This is the challenge we face when we try to become aware of the propaganda, the distortions of reality we've been immersed in all our lives.
The Lobster is one of those films I watched with me family that they all hated and I absolutely loved. Need to watch the rest of this guy's work!
Family dudeeee
I understand why they hated it.. He's not anything special. He discusses common things but through awkward scenes makes them difficult eventually.. He's not achieving to pass the message, and for some reason this is "quality" for Hollywood.
Whatever you do, do not watch Dogtooth with your family
Great essay. Have just recently re-watched The Lobster, and despite the absurdity of this world to the audience, it's also quite a mundane existence, with muted emotional ranges of the characters, a restricted and somewhat bland colour palate, and a controlled chaos. Despite scenes that as an audience we would find shocking, thrilling, frightening, or outrageous, after getting over the initial awkwardness or humour, I found myself thinking, "yeah, fair enough", "Ah yeah, that's completely normal" along with the characters in this world. As an audience, becoming as accepting of the absurdity that the characters are.
It's a bit like the way Magritte painted really odd things but in a totally flat, inexpressive, rather conventional style. A lot of Buñuel's filmmaking works similarly. The first time I saw The Discrete Charm of the Bourgeoisie, I thought it looked like a cheap sit com or soap.
The Greek Weird Wave has produced quite a few hidden gems
Good for him for playing the algorithm! Giving others a chance to explore the many different worlds of the director. Keep it up!
think about our society, justice, politics, hierarchies, money
it's all just an idea made by us, its not real
Why would you think ideas aren't real? They have immediacy in each one of our heads that few things outside of it have. Not to mention those "not real" ideas very much affect the "real" things in the world. The "unreal" idea of money will give me a lot of "real" pleasure in a form of material goods.
@@nickzardiashvili624 They're unreal in that they're fiction. Money only gives you real pleasure because we all accept the shared fiction that money has value.
@@DefectivlyAwesome No, I mean the actual, real pleasure of a delicious piece of food I can buy for example. Actual, physical pleasure of a comfortable house, etc. All very easily comes from "unreal" money. So why treat money as unreal?
@@nickzardiashvili624 No one is asking you to treat money as unreal. We live in a society where we agree money has value and that's been tremendously useful in a lot of ways. What people are saying is that it's a shared fictional idea that only works because people agree to it. If all of a sudden everyone else in the world stopped using money, it would be useless to you, you wouldn't be able to trade it for anything else.
You guys should read "sapiens" by Yuval Noah Harari, he talks alot about how things like capatilism and social norms don't exist beyond our heads and that the definition of religion fits with communism, nationalism, capitalism etc
I like the concept of exploring alternate realities so different from ours in yorghos cinematography. At the same time makes me think that our reality is absurd on its own and could be a yorghos movie.
Pulling a Yanthimos with the thumbnail I see
That's a funny hack :)
You have a certain clarity in your film analysis that I don't really see with other channels, who employ a "throw all the paint on the wall and see what sticks" mentality. In any event, good job with this video. The Killing of the Sacred Deer is one of my favorite films released in the past several years.
Why is this video 3 years old, but has a preview image of "Poor Things"?
changed it i guess
he has a time machine obviously
For new/more engagement on his video(s), pretty clever
he swapped in a new thumbnail cuz ofcourse its gonna get more attention
You cheater! You put a new movie thunbnail to a 3 year old video 😁
But thats a very good move!
he’s my favourite director, truly a mastermind
ever since i watched "The Killing of a Sacred Deer", i have been hooked on his movies
The immutability of the rules in Lanthimos’ films seems very reminiscent of the ideas put forth by the late Mark Fisher in his book Capitalist Realism. For anyone who’s interested, it’s a short but incredibly worthwhile read
I love Yorgos, he’s one of-if not my favorite-directors. Just signed up for MUBI!
I watched The Lobster two days ago the timing of this video is immaculate 😳
How is this 3 years ago and have the thumbnail of Poor Things?
You can update thumbnails
I had the same thought lol he must've gone back in only to update the thumbnail. Totally possible but seems a very specific choice to maybe boost old views slightly.
he changed it to get poor things clout
He’s the most incredible filmmaker, like a sadistic crack addict version of Kubrick, SO much influence, but with his own weird style. Absolutely incredible
How can this movie published 3 years ago…have a thumbnail from a movie (“Poor Things”) that came out just a few months ago?
How is this possible?
TH-cam creators can change the thumbnail of their videos after they are published
That's what I was saying, I was like "This sly man trying to get people to click for 'Poor Things' commentary... tsk tsk touché"
Same thought.
This director is a heavyweight of the past and coming decades.
I haven't seen any of these movies, but all of them are on my "must watch" list and I am so glad that I watched this first! Having the theme of "the movies' arbitrary rules reflecting reality's arbitrary rules" is going to make watching these so much better! Thank you. Also, this one video made me subscribe. Seriously well done, short and sweet, and beautifully edited. You don't have enough subscribers.
A bit late but anyway. The Lobster was the first movie I saw from this director and loved it, i've seen dogtooth, sacred deer and the favourite aswell, and I believe that this director is heavily influenced by the work of Franz Kafka. All his world have elements that can be described as kafka-esque. Does someone else feels this way?
Yes!
came back to this after binging his entire filmography. The Killing of A Sacred Deer is my favourite then the favourite.
Yorgos, one of the very few doing real work.
One of the most talented directors out there in my opinion. Alps and Dogtooth are masterpieces.
I love his work. This analysis does anyone excellent job articulating just what makes his films so unique.
The Lobster gives me the same unsettling vibe that reality dating shows do. It's very true to the kind of manipulated narrative and environment that TV shows like the Bachelor/Bachelorette, Love is Blind, and 90 Day Fiancé create, but just presented in a much more artistic, intentionally-disturbing way. It's accurate in that the relationships in these shows are obviously fake, fabricated, and overblown with drama, but the people within them can't see that there's no foundation to begin with, nor can anyone else around them, making these couples the gold-standard for people who are gullible, vulnerable, and feel hopeless in their love life. Much like the film, nobody questions the absurdity of the flawed logic and rules that dating shows set and everybody seems in denial of their sheer rediculousness, as though its a 100% effective way to find love.
Colin Farrell is Ned Flanders in disguise
the dude just so chill looking. but his art is just *demon chef's kiss
I love Yorgos' work. A real weird world builder. Always excited to see what he comes up with next.
u changed the thumbnail lol haha
Just seeing that tape player, I instantly knew it was that weird Greek thriller and when you said the name of it (Dogtooth), I got goosebumps
The Poor things thumbnail is kindof sortof clickbaity.
Thank you so much for helping me understand this. I’m such a rookie to things like this. I keep thinking that I’m supposed to understand everything in a film, and this helps me to open my mind up to the films true purpose.
I’m happy to see your channel growing. A three year old video still relevant and consistent in your analysis that can easily be applied to POOR THINGS!
Thomas, are podcasts something you’re looking into some time soon? Would love to listen to your essays during commutes or while working. Love your channel and your content! Much love from the PH ♥️
While we've put in hiatus for now, I did 12 episodes of a podcast about streaming TV called Stream Theory with Jackson from Skip Intro, you can find it on the podcast platforms.
I'd love to eventually start something back up about film, possibly interview focused, but I don't have any immediate plans.
the lobster makes you laugh until u dont really know if u are laughing about something in their world or ours
The 2024 thumbnail made me smile.
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there's something Kafkaesque about his movies
This is one of my favorite movies of all time
I watched this so long ago, i think i looked up: "weird films".
Yorgos has the capability to become one of the all time greats
Our world was created by someone,
and we just blindly accept all the rules
well, there's not much weight to this "we" thing
@@silverblue73 true
These ideas make me think about the manner of describing everyday things in a way that makes them feel strange and absurd
In some cases it's deliberately framed to be strange
"When my clothed get dirty I put them in a metal tube and it spins REALLY fast until they get clean"
other times, the thing writes itself
"the things in my body that act like rubber bands for my bones are loose and stretched out, which means my joints can move as they please. if my joints decide to get out of place, I just have to wait until they go back"
hEDS is a strange beast
The ending to Lobster is one of the greatest.. just for the simple fact of following through with it's stated absurdity and it's agreed upon shallowness that despite how deep of a connection they develop, he cannot accept that they will be together if they do not share everything.
Where can I find the old thumbnail?
So this guy is some genius world builder??
Damn
I thought it would come to the fact that it is dreamlike because this absurdity as an assumed normal in random areas is and has always been the common denominator in my dreams. Am I alone!? Lol
This video was posted 3 yrs ago? nice thumbnail lol
Thanks for this Thomas; love your take on Yorgos' worlds strange rules. Would love your thoughts on our discussion of the Killing of a Sacred Deer. I haven't seen the short, Mimic, have to see that on Mubi. Also, love you saying Yurgos is playing the role of the father- the rule maker- very cool. You say 'metaphysical' about his worlds- do you think this has to do with Greek myths? Killing is clearly influenced by Agamemnon - yes? Thanks again, this was very cool.
Thank goodness for films like these in an otherwise totally robotic industry
Thank you for another illuminating video. I love listening to you. Lanthimos is one of my very favourite directors and your talk helps me to articulate why I love his movies.
I fucking love the lobster.
Great video. The Lobster is one of my favorite films and I think you did an amazing job analyzing it!
I absolutely love Yorgos’ work so much. This is perfect :) thank you
Lanthimos is an unique director. I like his movies very much!
It isn't as weird when you view this type of film making the same way you would view the "show don't tell" writer rule. It's like there is not much lore dump/ exposition but instead the "prose" is in the cinematography and acting itself. Meanwhile, the audience, just sits along for the ride like a reader going page by page. It's fascinating actually
It's the curse of the boring dystopia. We don't realize what is unfair when it is life.
Feels weird to be spoiled to other movies I haven't seen yet when I wanted to watch a video about just The Lobster. That should've been more clear.
They weren't spoiled
There are no spoilers in this video.
_"WAAAAAH!"_
Alps gets slept on all the time and it's a really good watch
It is! It didn't quite fit into this video because it has a slight different vibe but it's definitely worth a watch.
Big fan of the slow zoom, big fan of this video
It"s like in dreams..there is thousand of absurdity everywhere but you don"t question them! But then the fact that i can"t make a photo with my phone makes me realize that i"m dreaming!
One of my most favourite films of all time. So great on so many levels.
I'm coming back to this after I watch Nimic on mubi
sameee :)
"Poor Things"
Poor me for watching this and Oppenheimer. I got more meaning out of Barbie without the Pandora’s box glorification of war or the twisted Frankenstein brain swap. The academy rewards Oscars for that???
@@raymonds6227probably I guess so, oscar is righteously for that
You're one of the few video essayists that are actually pleasant orators.
Yorgos Lanthimos is a blessing for cinema. I love his movies! It's so great to see his creative approaches as contrast to the typical Disney bullshit
Can’t wait to watch Poor Things
Loved your analysis by the way
Can you do one on The Favourite, it's my fav of his
th-cam.com/video/RtxEmARzEG0/w-d-xo.html
Here ya go!
Awesome vid I am excited to watch all of Lanthimos's movies now
Arbritrary rules we follow and dont question: pigs food, dogs friend
Why is this 3y ago and the image of the video is poor things?
And also the wide angles and zooms are so lanthimos
i came here to say this lol i think he must have updated the thumbnail recently
he updated the thumbnail for trending purposes
Man the zoom in on Nicole Kidman in the kitchen of Killing of a Sacred deer is so disturbing. I get the willies everytime I see it.
Well explained thoughts and ideas of some of my favorite films!
Why have I only heard of killing of a sacred deer?
Lobster felt like a fever dream.
Seems like the key to this kind of storytelling is convincing us that the characters are real people, since we take our cues about what's going on from them. (The movie can use slow zooms as much as it wants, but that's never going to be as convincing as the calm acceptance of the characters.) The first half of The Lobster works for me because I can believe in the reality of David, but the second half of the movie gets so weird that I stopped believing in him as a three-dimensional character and then stopped caring about what was happening to him. I guess the second half makes sense in the context of the film, because it's just changing the rules that David is living by. The rules aren't really more or less weird than before, just different. But for me the idea that he could go from one to the other just didn't feel real.
That scene in the subway from Nimic is fantastic, that could sell me on a film. The full short is boring but the premise is great.
bs bait switch thumbnail. No mention of Poor Things in this video
Hah thank you for mentioning this… I searched “Poor Things Thomas Flight” and this came up. I ended up watching the whole clip because I found it fascinating on the other Yorgos Lanthimos films I’ve watched but it’s not Poor Things 😂 🤷♀️
I mean, the video was released 3 years ago. I agree he probably shouldn't have changed the thumbnail though
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I feel like this a lot in our own world about our current norms.
I ask myself: Why do we accept the norms that we experience.
What do we really gain from it
Maybe a spoiler warning for new releases next time. Nimic just came out on Amazon today, and 90% of the viewers like myself won't even know it has been released, let alone have seen it yet.
Dude I was wondering when the hell that movie came out! Dammit
well, don't watch videos like this if you haven't seen the movie, duh
@@sidolanters1394 they weren't talking about spoilers for The Lobster the issue was that there was no warning for the newer film he discussed