Thanks for sharing what your learned! You did a nice job. I have the same problem making long videos. I can't bring myself to make short, visual only videos, as I want to show why I'm doing what I'm doing, and not just doing it, right?
i got rid of the jst connector and installed a deans micro plug. Essential get rid of the plastic cover connector and plastic separator. Fold the tabs back towards the battery so the tabs are flush with the battery. Solder in the polarized 2 pin deans micro plug. Fill with shoe goo or similar and wrap with some capton. You'll end up with a much more durable connector than any JST connector. I was shocked at how much more power and endurance I gained by switching.
Well done on the video and procedure. Might suggest a T-Stripper to both cut your wires and strip them. Super easy, better cuts and strips. Cheers, dave
Great tutorial! Just FYI you're calling the JST-PH connectors female, even though you're linking to the male variants (which are the right ones for the batteries). Keep up this great channel!
FPVisionary Amazon likely changed the description. The picture shows the female connector. there was a lot of retailer confusion back when I researched all this. They seem to get the description right, but almost always the picture is what you'll get. I know I picked an accurate link at the time. Where ever you order from, make sure to double check the description, picture and reviews.
FPVisionary To explain further. A connectors gender is determined by the metal contacts, not the plastic contacts. The female side does go on the battery, and the male is on the whoop side
Good video Mr Moto. In order to upgrade the battery connector from your ordinary small JST to the slightly bigger JST PH, you have to do this with your batterys. I know Tiny Whoop sells the already upgraded batterys but your still limited to just those specific ones. Thnx Moto for posting this, i'd have no idea if not :)
Dan Ross And we have a winner! I've been expecting this comment. Where have you been? It took longer than I expected. At least I know you watched the whole video. haha. I'm glad you found this helpful.
Dude that was so funny... I really thought the way you was presenting this it reminded me of Bob Ross.. then just seconds later you said it... lol!!! That struck my funny Bone this morning.. lol Thanks for the video.. I got 2:47 out of my 260mAh GNB this morning, (with Beta75) Id like to do something to increase my time.. any suggestions? Those batteries I have already has the JST PH connectors....
Glad someone finally commented on the Bob Ross reference. I usually only get just over 2min on 205mah batteries. The betafpv 75 has a lot bigger motors than standard 6x15 motor whoops. 2min47s seems pretty good for 260mah on the bigger motors. Cutting weight would be my only suggestion.
Lol.. Maybe it took a Hillbilly to know who Bob Ross was. My test was a LOS hover test.. actual flying is a little less.. Round 2:30. I have a 450mah 1S on the way. Someone claimed 4 minutes and I'm gonna see if they were lying. (laughs) I expect the extra weight to mess with flight characteristics.
I accidentally broke one of the tabs. Should I open the battery and go inside and try to solder from the nearest available point or just dispose of it? Thanks for your video :)
I have a parallel charging cable for the old connectors - What are you using for these? I bought a set of 50 connectors (male and female) and I'll wire up my own. Seems the tinywhoop store is out.
Losi micro connectors (those flat ones) look more suitable for frequent use imho. I'd post some links here, but it seems that I have an annoying beeping alarm here that I must tend to first.
It seems the main community has standardized on the jst-ph. Losi really screwed stuff up when they swapped polarity. Drives my charger nuts and then triggers my OCD to see the red and black swapped. But, if you've converted all your gear - enjoy - just don't ask to borrow batteries.(grin)
I don't believe so. Its been a while. However, the Picoblade 1.25mm is the small connector and the large is PH 2.0mm. Its the distance between the pins that is the main difference. The small is 1.25mm and large is 2.0mm.
MSF Live no lol, I seriously thought one of my smoke alarms had a low battery...again because it just so happens they have been going 1 by 1 recently lol...wow
What kind/brand of silicone are you using there? I'm having a heck of a time finding some neutral cure locally, but maybe I'm just not searching for the right thing.
Adam Kouse I just used regular home silicone from Home Depot. Someone in the comments mentioned this silicone for electronics. www.amazon.com/MG-Chemicals-Corrosive-Translucent-Silicone/dp/B005T8R6LY/ref=sr_1_1?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1481893370&sr=1-1&keywords=electronic+grade+silicone
Hi. Very good video. I think i need a 1.5mm jst for a led, but the one i've seen on amazon have round holes and the one i need seem to have flat pins. Is there a different name for those connectors?
@@motoshane2 Shane you the boss man, thank you very much for taking the time to help me, but those are not the ones im looking for. Can i send you pictures of the broken connector i have to an email or something?
i ordered jst ph connectors. but in the picture the red and black cable seem to be opposite, unless its just mirrored picture. I could just remove the wires and swap them correct? i mean do they normally come standard polarity?
Jan Domingo Yes you need to make sure to watch polarity. You can carefully switch the wires around, or just solder black to positive and red to negative. Whatever you do, make sure the polarity is getting to the quad copter correctly.
Does it really make a difference? I mean, it is hard for to me believe thats gonna make a difference. PS: I have seen now the old Micro Jst that the inductrix had, I had in mind the H8 connector from Eachine this: www.firstquadcopter.com/gallery/h8mini-quad-images/EACHINE-h8mini-battery-connector.jpg So I think they are basically the same.
Thanks. I haven't even flown with that losi connector. I'm not sure how it would compare. www.amainhobbies.com/losi-connector-set-w-wires-losb0860/p9938?gclid=CjwKEAjw5_vHBRCBtt2NqqCDjiESJABD5rCJ9CgnhenvrdUzYYJip--UXaL9R8uw2Q6QFMMHIJ1H4xoCwwLw_wcB
oh, IC :) I just started this hobby. I've been a 5th scale guy for the longest time. Saw this kid on a local football field playing with this quads and I was hooked after he let me fly it. Good thing is I repair mobile phones for a living so that means I have all the tools I need most notably the stereo microscope. So I'm used to working with components even smaller than a grain of rice. But a lot these guys here work on these tiny drones or quads( I want to be politically correct here) :)without any magnifying glass. I miss those days when I had an eye of an eagle which was 100 years ago. :)
Glad to see you're liking the hobby. Welcome. I'm at the age where my focus on close objects is quickly getting blurry. It won't be much longer until I'm permanently using magnifying lenses and reading glasses.
I just received my JST-PH connectors I ordered from your link in the description, but the wires look half as thick as the one in your video. i.imgur.com/nFLsJF2.jpg
Raneman What Guage are they? Mine were much bigger than the description of the amazon link. You probably got the right ones. I got the wrong ones. It's a very short run, and your wire is still much bigger than the micro jst wire originally used. Tiny Whoops powerwhoop cable is 24 gauge for a reference.
I'm not sure what the gauge is, I can't read the wires, even with a magnifying glass. I just want to make sure it's not going to be too thin. I don't have them with me now, but I'll look on more of the connectors to see if I can find one that's readable.
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Nice video! Love that you actually know the pitch and names of all the connectors!
Brian Phillips Thanks. had to do some minor research prior to this.
Thanks for sharing what your learned! You did a nice job. I have the same problem making long videos. I can't bring myself to make short, visual only videos, as I want to show why I'm doing what I'm doing, and not just doing it, right?
@1.38min is it not 1.25 not .125 ?
Really helpfull video, I live in Argentina no info or help at all here, you helped me keep my tiny whoop flying much more time, thanks a lot man
i got rid of the jst connector and installed a deans micro plug. Essential get rid of the plastic cover connector and plastic separator. Fold the tabs back towards the battery so the tabs are flush with the battery. Solder in the polarized 2 pin deans micro plug. Fill with shoe goo or similar and wrap with some capton.
You'll end up with a much more durable connector than any JST connector. I was shocked at how much more power and endurance I gained by switching.
Nice mod! Thanks for putting this together.
Welcome.
Well done on the video and procedure. Might suggest a T-Stripper to both cut your wires and strip them. Super easy, better cuts and strips.
Cheers, dave
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@Cassius Kashton Flixportal =)
@Yahir Prince Thanks, signed up and it seems like they got a lot of movies there :) I really appreciate it!!
@Cassius Kashton Happy to help :)
Had to like on so many levels. , the glue tip alone was worth the time.
If there is one thing I had to recommend, it would be the welder glue. A dab on each strut at the duct, and the stock frame is near indestructible.
motoshane I lose so much flight time because of that.
Followup - the stuff is fantastic and the tube is PLENTY large.
You sir must have the patience of Job ;-)
Great tutorial! Just FYI you're calling the JST-PH connectors female, even though you're linking to the male variants (which are the right ones for the batteries).
Keep up this great channel!
FPVisionary Amazon likely changed the description. The picture shows the female connector. there was a lot of retailer confusion back when I researched all this. They seem to get the description right, but almost always the picture is what you'll get. I know I picked an accurate link at the time. Where ever you order from, make sure to double check the description, picture and reviews.
FPVisionary To explain further. A connectors gender is determined by the metal contacts, not the plastic contacts. The female side does go on the battery, and the male is on the whoop side
Good video Mr Moto. In order to upgrade the battery connector from your ordinary small JST to the slightly bigger JST PH, you have to do this with your batterys. I know Tiny Whoop sells the already upgraded batterys but your still limited to just those specific ones. Thnx Moto for posting this, i'd have no idea if not :)
Jesse Clingman You're welcome.
Great video and very helpful. Thank you!
Justin Prendergast Thanks, I was hoping it would be helpful.
nice video, many people just buy new batteries
Hey Is that your smoke alarm chirping in the background? 3:19, 4:33, 5:04 etc. Check that battery
Thanks for the video and links
Dan Ross And we have a winner! I've been expecting this comment. Where have you been? It took longer than I expected. At least I know you watched the whole video. haha. I'm glad you found this helpful.
good info ..need to do this !
Dude that was so funny... I really thought the way you was presenting this it reminded me of Bob Ross.. then just seconds later you said it... lol!!! That struck my funny Bone this morning.. lol
Thanks for the video.. I got 2:47 out of my 260mAh GNB this morning, (with Beta75) Id like to do something to increase my time.. any suggestions? Those batteries I have already has the JST PH connectors....
Glad someone finally commented on the Bob Ross reference. I usually only get just over 2min on 205mah batteries. The betafpv 75 has a lot bigger motors than standard 6x15 motor whoops. 2min47s seems pretty good for 260mah on the bigger motors. Cutting weight would be my only suggestion.
Lol.. Maybe it took a Hillbilly to know who Bob Ross was.
My test was a LOS hover test.. actual flying is a little less.. Round 2:30. I have a 450mah 1S on the way. Someone claimed 4 minutes and I'm gonna see if they were lying. (laughs) I expect the extra weight to mess with flight characteristics.
increase the speed of the battery increase ?
Thanks for the video.
TerryFrenchy No problem.
Great vid!!
I accidentally broke one of the tabs. Should I open the battery and go inside and try to solder from the nearest available point or just dispose of it?
Thanks for your video :)
TechtronicMountain Dispose of it. Once you breach the metal pouch it's done for.
motoshane I will, thanks!
They need to make a store bought version of that battery .
www.tinywhoop.com
I have a parallel charging cable for the old connectors - What are you using for these? I bought a set of 50 connectors (male and female) and I'll wire up my own. Seems the tinywhoop store is out.
Wholly Mindless This is what I use. www.amazon.com/Paraboard-Parallel-Charging-Board-Blade/dp/B00DCFFK2S
Losi micro connectors (those flat ones) look more suitable for frequent use imho.
I'd post some links here, but it seems that I have an annoying beeping alarm here that I must tend to first.
It seems the main community has standardized on the jst-ph. Losi really screwed stuff up when they swapped polarity. Drives my charger nuts and then triggers my OCD to see the red and black swapped. But, if you've converted all your gear - enjoy - just don't ask to borrow batteries.(grin)
So the one on the battery was JST-GH?
I don't believe so. Its been a while. However, the Picoblade 1.25mm is the small connector and the large is PH 2.0mm. Its the distance between the pins that is the main difference. The small is 1.25mm and large is 2.0mm.
Yes. I'm pretty sure it is.
Am I the only one who was running around the house looking for the beep? xD
MSF Live no lol, I seriously thought one of my smoke alarms had a low battery...again because it just so happens they have been going 1 by 1 recently lol...wow
Good job. Jeff
What kind/brand of silicone are you using there? I'm having a heck of a time finding some neutral cure locally, but maybe I'm just not searching for the right thing.
Adam Kouse I just used regular home silicone from Home Depot. Someone in the comments mentioned this silicone for electronics. www.amazon.com/MG-Chemicals-Corrosive-Translucent-Silicone/dp/B005T8R6LY/ref=sr_1_1?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1481893370&sr=1-1&keywords=electronic+grade+silicone
Ah, thanks for the link. I ran through the comments but must not have expanded them all. I'm on it!
Hi. Very good video. I think i need a 1.5mm jst for a led, but the one i've seen on amazon have round holes and the one i need seem to have flat pins. Is there a different name for those connectors?
Does it look like this? AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65
It might be called a picoblade by molex.
@@motoshane2 Thank you for your answer man, but I can't see the image. Can't you link me a page where they sell it please?
nidici 20pcs(10 Pairs) 1S Lipo Charger 3.7v Battery Charging Cable Male & Female for RC Quadcopter Drone Multirotors www.amazon.com/dp/B01MXE9IE8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_WA7WBbXV8E6VP
@@motoshane2 Shane you the boss man, thank you very much for taking the time to help me, but those are not the ones im looking for. Can i send you pictures of the broken connector i have to an email or something?
i ordered jst ph connectors. but in the picture the red and black cable seem to be opposite, unless its just mirrored picture. I could just remove the wires and swap them correct? i mean do they normally come standard polarity?
Jan Domingo Yes you need to make sure to watch polarity. You can carefully switch the wires around, or just solder black to positive and red to negative. Whatever you do, make sure the polarity is getting to the quad copter correctly.
Smaller is molex picoblade 1.25
Larger is jst-phr2
for the life of you and the family ... change the battery in the smoke alarm... please
Nice, but geez that's a lot of work for one battery:(
tahosrfr It can be. Just buy new powerwhoop batteries from www.tinywhoop.com
LOL I would totally just add wires, and not keep it a stick. This way I can change it eaiser inthe future
Does it really make a difference? I mean, it is hard for to me believe thats gonna make a difference.
PS: I have seen now the old Micro Jst that the inductrix had, I had in mind the H8 connector from Eachine this:
www.firstquadcopter.com/gallery/h8mini-quad-images/EACHINE-h8mini-battery-connector.jpg
So I think they are basically the same.
Yes it does make a very noticeable difference if you have a setup demanding enough power to notice it.
I guessed as much, just had that doubt about the Eachine connector (I don't know its name)
Thanks, and good video btw.
Thanks. I haven't even flown with that losi connector. I'm not sure how it would compare. www.amainhobbies.com/losi-connector-set-w-wires-losb0860/p9938?gclid=CjwKEAjw5_vHBRCBtt2NqqCDjiESJABD5rCJ9CgnhenvrdUzYYJip--UXaL9R8uw2Q6QFMMHIJ1H4xoCwwLw_wcB
You got it! Thats it. Losi Connector.
Well done thanks
you must have one hell of an eyesight working on such tiny objects without using any visual aids, or are you? :)
Brewed Awakening No visual aids on this one. But I now use a magnifying glass on small work I didn't have to a few years ago.
oh, IC :) I just started this hobby. I've been a 5th scale guy for the longest time. Saw this kid on a local football field playing with this quads and I was hooked after he let me fly it. Good thing is I repair mobile phones for a living so that means I have all the tools I need most notably the stereo microscope. So I'm used to working with components even smaller than a grain of rice. But a lot these guys here work on these tiny drones or quads( I want to be politically correct here) :)without any magnifying glass. I miss those days when I had an eye of an eagle which was 100 years ago. :)
Glad to see you're liking the hobby. Welcome. I'm at the age where my focus on close objects is quickly getting blurry. It won't be much longer until I'm permanently using magnifying lenses and reading glasses.
I just received my JST-PH connectors I ordered from your link in the description, but the wires look half as thick as the one in your video. i.imgur.com/nFLsJF2.jpg
Raneman What Guage are they? Mine were much bigger than the description of the amazon link. You probably got the right ones. I got the wrong ones. It's a very short run, and your wire is still much bigger than the micro jst wire originally used. Tiny Whoops powerwhoop cable is 24 gauge for a reference.
I'm not sure what the gauge is, I can't read the wires, even with a magnifying glass. I just want to make sure it's not going to be too thin. I don't have them with me now, but I'll look on more of the connectors to see if I can find one that's readable.
Raneman If it's a thicker wire than the stock micro JST, it will be much better. The wire I'm using is likely overkill.
Ok, cool. Just wanted to be sure before I soldered my first one. Thanks.