RACING'S SUPER SUB! The Story of Roberto Moreno
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All done without listening to/watching his BtG appearance as well. Because what would be the point in just taking what he says there and sending it here? I might as well just link it!
But after 5-ish years of begging for it, I hope it's been worth the wait, making it a mash of the old way and new way of doing the series and some other easter eggs in there too.
Thanks for the 100k, now what to do for the next one? I'll figure something out...
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Ladies and gentlemen... We've got him!
Your feelings change like the weather, went from clear to grey, on that cloudy day...
It's easy to see why Moreno became a meme here because he was the connective thread between all those awful teams he drove for. But seeing his career as a whole makes it clear that he was a man that was able to make something out of less than nothing. Fucking legend.
Forget about Schumacher, Hamilton, Senna, Lauda vs Hunt and whatsoever. Roberto Moreno is the F1 film we all want to be produced.
I hope Brad Pitt F1 movie is about Moreno
Lads rejoice. We finally got THE video.
A holy grail so long in waiting that Norris even won an F1 race first.
It's HERE!!! The man, the myth, the legend!!!
I was lucky enough to cover IndyCar in the late 2000s and early 2010s. I saw Moreno in the paddock several times and he always had a smile and would talk to anyone and everyone. He’s one of the if not the nicest people I’ve ever met.
Have to be to get hired by that many teams 🤣
His 3rd place at Michigan in 1996 with Payton Coyne, which was basically CART's answer to Minardi was amazing! They had been in Indy Car/CART 13 years at that point and that was their first podium.
They were worse than even Minardi. They were like a Simtek or Forti tbh. That was the first podium for Coyne.
He was also in contention for the 2000 championship until the final round there too.
And the PacWest team were like CART's answer to Prost Peugeot of the day.
I had a bit of a rough time in my life for four months after getting laid off and searching for new employment. I secured a new, more profitable job today and signed the contract. I'll start in beginning of June and have my modest celebration in next weekend, but at the very moment I just looked towards TH-cam to wind down after months of enduring bullshit of job searching.
Quite a fitting reward from waiting for the Robert Moreno special to finally show up when I truly deserved something from my troubles
Fuckin get it mate, enjoy your celebration! Down a pint for me will ya? I'm on meds rn otherwise I'd raise one to ya🍻
Only watched the video today but congrats on finding a job !
Down to earth bloke. Met him when I marshalled the Champcar meeting at Brands
23:48 that comment pretty much sums up the mantra I have in regards to motorsport:
True greatness in motorsports isn't shown with the best vehicle on the grid starting from pole cruising to an easy victory. It is shown in a midfielder/back marker car and dragging it up to places it normally has no right to be.
This is why Lewis should’ve signed with Williams instead of Ferrari.
NO WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY, I thought this day would never come
You can't take much if anything away from Moreno. He did his absolute best in some apalling machinery and elevated a lot of teams beyond their station. He might not have been particularly successful in F1 but he got there and never had a bad attitude.
He did make it in many ways, remembering in F1 he was a podium finisher and in race-winning machinery and only dropped for one Michael Schumacher!
He was seriously good, just never that consistent (a bit like Alesi, Brambilla or Hulkenberg) and did deserve better from F1 in 92-93!
The point score in the AGS was even more impressive when you realize the JH22was essentially a 1983 Renault RE40 underneath, a four year old design at that point that was never intended for a Cosworth NA V8.
Wow he really was relentless and kept fighting. Everyone saying he was such a nice guy, he deserves so much more respect.
Moreno will likely always be my favourite driver, fast as hell, and a genuine person not afraid to show his emotions during a time men weren’t supposed to, an absolute legend and an inspiration
Worth mentioning is that the Toleman test that didn't happen because of a lack of tires wasn't the test; but it took down the entire team!
The test actually went ahead, Moreno, Capelli and Palmer all tested the car.
Their Michelin contract ended and Goodyear wouldn't supply the team unless money was paid up front & Pirelli wouldn't full stop, after the team criticised their wets.
So the team had no tyres but were bailed out by a sponsor, Benetton...
Eventually for 86, Benetton bought the whole team owing to continuing issues with Goodyear and Pirelli, so beginning the Toleman-Benetton-Renault-Alpine history.
Moreno was quickest in the 84 test but couldn't agree a contract with no confirmed tyre deal, so went to Galles in Indycar as he had a firm offer there.
Big bloody what if
The way you can tell he is underrated is because he stuck around at the back that long. Unless you have millions on millions of dollars, being a driver at a failed backmarker for years doesn't tend to get you calls for new drives years later.
The ability to hang on WITHOUT huge statistical success says a lot.
Moreno, Martini, Badoer, Montermini
@@OsellaSquadraCorse DeCesaris perhaps belongs here too although he had money.
@@palm92and got rid of the ' Decrasharis ' nickname......
I remember one of the Team Owners from CART make the statement that Moreno would always give you not only his best, but the best the car was able to produce. I'm thinking it was Gannasi, but that was a long time ago.
His 2000 CART season is underrated, the win at Cleveland was one of the most popular wins, from what I was told by a former PacWest mechanic, nobody had a bad word to say about Bob, and he was the sort that as others said would talk to anyone and everyone, and he had universal praise and respect wherever he went
Sure he is not as famous as Senna, Piquet or Fittipaldi, sure, but he is down to earth and one of the nice guys and someone who many many people have told me will see you in a pub and buy you a drinkCAER
In the time i waited for this video i got an degree. Finally the Roberto Moreno story
congrats on your degree mate :)
@@AdavidPT thanks
Having looked through F1 history, there are far more good drivers who've failed than poor drivers who've succeeded. A driver usually runs out of money long before he runs out of talent.
Paul di resta and force India come to mind.
He could have done well in a top team.
@@beefsuprem0241valid comment
@@beefsuprem0241 Early 2010s post-recession era has to be one of the worst times to be a talented rookie in F1 as that was the age of the pay driver, then proceeded by the billionaire's son era. I've always wondered what Kamui Kobayashi could've achieved in F1 had he had the sponsor money to stick around, people forget he consistently gave the likes of Button, Alonso, Webber etc a hard time in a lacking Sauber.
I got to meet Moreno at the Formula Ford Festival at Brand Hatch in 2022. Great guy, I didn't realise he was in a rush but still took the time to take a photo, so he is a legend both as a person and as a driver
THE MOMENT WE'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR. CONGRATS AIDAN
Incredible that he drove for more teams in one season than Lewis Hamilton has in his 17 year career to date. But Moreno is a story of hustling, trying to make an F1 career when he wasn't as talented as the top guys or as rich as the pay drivers at the back, just driving for any team that would take him. The fact that in those circumstances he managed to stick around as long as he did is testament to his tenacity, and results like Japan in 1990 and Monaco in 1992 show he was capable of being bloody quick on his day.
We finally got it, boys and girls!
Ooooooohhhhhhh Bobby Moreeeeenooooo!!!!
The most insane thing, to me, is that he, SOMEHOW, wasn’t called up by any teams in 1994.
First things first. Let me stand up and give The Millward a round of applause. A proper quality production, with some of the little gems that helped storytime grow in the first place.
I with many others jumped on the Roberto meme after finding this channel when catching up with time I was away from F1 when life got in the way. The 2005 US GP episode was my first, from a list of lots of videos about that race.
I then discovered a back catalogue of episodes, and whilst out of work devoured them, and the pressing issues and others. I'll admit to not being much of fan of sim racing, sorry.
I have had a quick look at Roberto's career, but the full story laid out is quite simply awe-inspiring. I used to use his name as a joke. No longer.
Thank you Aidan, thank you Roberto, and thamk you to the 100k out there who stuck with this channel, and so glad that despite a few bumps in the road, Aidan did a Roberto and just kept on going.
We've been waiting 6 years for this milestone episode to happen. We salute you
I remember watching his first win in YEARS at Cleveland. It was always one of my favorite rounds to watch each year, and that year just felt more special because he won and how emotional he got. It's a shame they had to cut the post race interview short because they ran out of air time.
Moreno is the definition of punching above his weight
IT'S FINALLY HERE
Finally, the day we've been waiting years for has come. The myth, the legend, is finally covered.
Briatore showed his true colours back in 1991 for the first time ever. They did Moreno dirty.
So Flavio and his potty mouth ruined many drivers' life, ruined Ligier, ruined Renault, and he even got enough time to ruin Queens Park Rangers.
Jesus.
Even the great Murray Walker was outraged at the sacking of Moreno by Briatore.
Briatore is a slime ball and people just looked the other way ..
@marklittle8805 yep, same way they did when his Benetton was found to be equipped with illegal TCS. FIA let him off because "they had no proof it was used". Laughable. But then you must remember that he and Bernie were partners in owning F2.
I believe Moreno had a race or two in Brazil's F Super Vee before going to europe... A great driver. He and Nelson were youth friends and worked at the same mechanics corner shop (owned by Alex Dias Ribeiro, who also made in F1) fixing cars and taking parts of those (the VW ones) to fit in their F Super Vee racing cars... among many other things... Their story could be a great Hush 2...
1:10 Jesus that is quite a throwback. Also, that photo at 21:16 absolutely rocks. Moreno on VMax.
A man of his word. 🙂 Thanks for coming through for us, Aidan.
Moreno was competitive in CART and was widely admired in the paddock.
He was, both as a regular driver and as a "Super Sub", notably at PacWest Racing in 1999 where he rode the iconic Motorola Reynard/Mercedes because Mark Blundell was sidelined for seven or eight races with a stiff neck following a testing accident.
Funny thing is that here in Brazil Moreno has the utmost respect of those who actually know what they're talking about... while nowadays most haven't even heard of him. As time goes on, he's pretty much going the way of Pace, Clemente, and others as ancient history.
An interesting bit of trivia is that he was arguably part of the strongest batch of Brazilian drivers ever, that of the late 70's: Moreno, Serra, Piquet, and Hoffman. While Piquet was a king of the 80's, Serra left F1 and went on to become a 3x champion in Brazilian Stock Car (a series that deserves its own videos; just look into it and you'll see), and Hoffman... became Richard Petty on steroids and won 12 freaking titles in Brazilian Stock Car. Had Moreno ever chosen to move away from single seaters, he would have probably gone the same way and grabbed a couple Stock titles as well. But no. He sure loved his single seaters.
Round of applause for Aidan! A well presented potted history of Roberto. You two are rather alike in one respect; you both have worked hard and deserve more 👏🏻
You could upload a 30 minute video explaining why shit is sticky and I would watch it end to end. Your speaking style is great. Your research/knowledge is amazing. And it's very calm. No needless hyping and stuff.
I love your videos.
nice one. There's also a nice story about 2007 Indy 500. He was subbing for one injuried Stephan Gregoire just 2 days short of Bump Day. Went out to practice and after one lap saw the setup was messed up and cause Gregoire to crash. Asked for a setup with fellow engineers at other teams and managed to qualify one last time for the Indy 500
And he was nearly 50 years old...
Growing up in America in the 90's my memories of him were as a pretty good mid field CART driver. Only later found out about his F1 history.
Imagine... convincing Roberto Moreno to be your sim racing teammate... 😂
Super underrated driver.. was the man in Indycar. And raced well into his 40s. And a genuinely nice man.
That Toronto at the end got me 😅😅😅
Good thing, too. Moreno was like a Joe Shlabotnick baseball card on this channel - and you were friggin' Lucy van Pelt. I was feelin' like the Round-Headed Kid. . .
Super Sub Bob being humble is an understatement. The crappy circumstances in which he hops from one ride to another and trudged where his other peers move on to something different. Like another career outside of racing.
Thank you for covering RM even though you could have trolled your audience. RM seems like a genuinely good man with an awesome attitude to all the hardships that fell his way.
I can't believe it's here. Well done and thank you for your amazing channel.
Now... don't you feel better, Aidan? Wonderfully told!
I still remember seeing his emotional response to being on the podium at Suzuka. After the crap in the first corner, it was a nice way to end that race. Genuinely good guy.
YES
Fun fact: Roberto Moreno was the first driver to win at both Pau and Macau respectively in a Formula 3 car.
I loved Roberto Moreno in IndyCar, I always was cheering him on!
I think it was Jimmy Broadbent when he was doing a vid on the Life car who said these guys could be having the race of their lives but you'd never know because the cars were so bad. I think that this applies to RM.
genuinely love what you do here. found you right as I was getting into motorsports and you've taught me a ton. congratulations getting to 100k and here's to 100k more!
CART in 2000 was no joke, the field was loaded with talent and the cars were monsters. Makes his performance that season all the more impressive
I know someone who was a mechanic with small IRL team Chastain Motorsports in 2007 whose primary driver Stephan Gregoire got hurt in the first week of the month. They ended up bringing in Moreno and he was just an absolute gent, a pro's pro who worked effortlessly with an unfamiliar team and managed to drag their outdated Panoz chassis into the show
Finally!! Some quality content about the most important driver for F1.
Moreno's career is one of the most impressive not because his stat sheet is awash with gold and silver, but because he's done so much despite what would sure seem like the universe repeatedly telling him not to. The passion he has for a sport that never loved him his incredible.
I was so happy I was humming the intro music!
Roberto - you legend!!
Been here for 3 years waiting on this video… I used to pray for times like this 🥲🥲
Roberto Moreno's career corresponds with my introduction to motorsports, I mainly think of him as one of the guys who would bounce back from Indy Cars to F1 a lot, very common then, still happens but it's news when it happens theses days.
Thanks for the reminder of Roberto doing the Australian races in the early 80’s. And congrats on the 100k subs. Cheers from Oz.
It's finally come full circle. What a legendary story
Nice work Aidan. Sensitively and respectfully done. I imagine Roberto will watch it and I reckon will like it. My mate who was crossing pit lane in Adelaide in more relaxed days who walked in front of him and nearly got run over and myself who remembers him from Adelaide will not forget Roberto.
Podium in F1 at Suzuka, winner in CART, multiple winner in other series. A talent who didnt quite get the rub of the green in F1 politics.
Not long enough, needs to be a multi-episode series.
A sunny start to the day, a video by Aiden finally praising Roberto. Him getting the respect and fandom isn’t just super…it’s sup(erb).
Great that you included his performances and story before and after F1!
Thanks! For more pics!
Woah, loadsa moneyy
Moreno also won both the New Zealand Grand Prix. He was also a guest at the last Toyota Racing Series (now Formula Regional Oceania) race meeting to be held at Pukekohe
Roberto Moreno to take a start in the Williams!
I wish, actually... Common, Roberto Moreno is a nice guy.
Roberto Moreno was a solid driver in F1 and in motorsport. He was unlucky but was a talent
Well done on the milestone, a great channel. Reminds me how much of a shame it is that we lost F1 rejects, such a resource lost to time!
Nicely handled tribute to the man. And a very impressive list of solid teams trusted him to drive their cars - so that's a tribute also.
13:20 that results… Moreno deserve more attention and love!
To quote that one announcer:
"HE'S DONE IIIIIITT!!!!!! OH YEEEEEES!!!"
Congrats on the plaque, Aiden. After all the copyright nonsense and algorhythm BS, you deserve it.
He's the ultimate supersub! He needs to be in someone's Hall Of Fame.
Everyone could have a Nelson Piquet as a friend. Sure he might get you in jail, but his also the first to bail you out of jail.
And there it is! Finally!
OK, so I click on this channel and I see a 28½ minute video from the greatest storyteller of all time! 🙌. Life is so good right now!!! 🎧😊 . . Lemme go make some snacks! 🍿🍪😋.
On the flip side, however, 29 minutes from now, I'll have nothing to look forward to 😟. Nevertheless, great to see we're also covering his CART career too! 👍👍.
Congratulations on 100,000 subscribers! 🙌🏆. It's thoroughly deserved and more! 👏.
ITS HAPPENING!!!! ITS HAPPENING!!!
I wasn't sure if you liked hockey or just the bruins logo but the Toronto thing at the end got me
It wasn't just a meme. Roberto "Pupo" Moreno is a genuinely nice fellow who took every chance he got and did his best, regardless of how unusual they were.
There was a saying here in Brazil of "I'm Brazilian and I will never give up" which I believe got retired after being driven into the ground from overuse which I think best fits him.
Here's to him. Might not have won ridiculous amount of silverware nor gotten the spotlight but he's a legend.
I smiled a big old smile when I saw this Thumbnail in my feed! And at least for today, on your channel, Bobby Brown displaced Lando Norris! Thank you sir, well played.🏁
Here in Brazil, during his time in CART, Téo José (announcer) nicknamed him "Operário da Velocidade" (something like Racing's Worker), which can summorize really well who's Roberto "Pupo" Moreno (as most brazilians know him).
Just to highlight 1 moment that shows the grit, determination, love and knowledge that he has for racing:
His 1988 F3000 title was with Bromley Motorsport.
The team was him, Gary Anderson and 1 mechanic.
Moreno had to buy the chassis and the engine for himself, but he had no money. He had to ask for Nelson Piquet help to buy the chassi (Reynard) and made a deal that, if he won the championship, he wouldn't have to pay for it. His engine supplier came from his wins in Formula Atlantic, in Australia.
A shame that my country only cares about those who win, or, even more so, those who win a f1 championship. So much so that, during the mid 2000's, BARRICHELLO was the common joke for something really slow or for being late, "behind".
To an Englishman, a bet is a bet and must be paid, but thanks for putting such efforts into this project. I enjoyed it very much, especially with the time frame being when I was a most ardent follower/fan (Prost btw), and get the feeling that you enjoyed the research and results as well.
Nice guys don't always win and much respect for mentioning Nelson Piquets very generous deed. Doubt many others would have done that whatever era of F1 👍
He has a lot more recognition in EU and US than here in Brazil, which is a shame, the guy is a big legend. I'm pretty sure that on good equipment in his top form, he would be a title contender on any series.
Started out in this series as a meme... Leaving this episode knowing his career and skills make him an absolute fvcking legend!
In this house, Roberto Moreno is a fuckin hero, end of fuckin story!
The GOAT
There it is lads
I remember an interview with Roberto following the AGP back in 1983. The gushing Australian reporter asked him how beating all these F1 greats would help his career. Roberto said with a smile I don’t think it will help because I did it last time and it didn’t help. Have a had a soft spot for him ever since 😁
At last! Thank you! You finally gave the unsung legend some long due recognition. I hope he sees this and responds in the comments. That would top it off nicely.
10:01 AGS was never featured on the F1 Rejects website IIRC, but a 3 part article of the team is on GP Rejects, F1 Rejects’ spiritual successor.
Aside from that, great video!
Absolute banger of a video. Some of us still wonder what that Benetton lineup would have done if it were Robert and Michael as the teammates.
Honestly probably not as good as the Schumacher Brundle lineup got.
I was here when we started bombarding you with the roberto moreno video. Congrats Aidan really happy for you.
Well worth the wait cheers Aidan!
After many years of waiting, we finally got it!!! Thank you!
Ngl I was hoping the video was gonna be an hour, but hey we finally got it so can't really complain too much. Cheers for 100k mate