Just came across your TH-cam channel. I've heard you are tough on people, but the way you were to this guy you were teaching seemed fine. I really appreciate your style of coaching from what I saw here.
Neace I want to thank you again for your channel, been playing since season 4, playing a lot, I realise that I knew nothing about playing top lane, and how unimportant the champion you play is once you understand the fundamentals.. i was silver and im at plat mmr after 1 week, 8 games winning spree today. Learning wave management made a HUUUGE difference, I did not know how to shove properly ( pushing the 2nd wave incoming ) and how to do this to not lose cs and get back to lane to freeze under tower... only this can win u game and make u understand splitpush. I play top lane now, i dont play one champ. thanks man
It's said because it is true. I played Wukong to plat and silver and low gold, building tank items just throws your lead because no one on your team has the skills or knowledge to follow up on you with shit.
If you wanna learn Riven, NEACE is not the person for you. Riven is a hard champion to master cause she is very weak against most champs, especially early game. She's got the most outplay potential out of all top lane champs though
To the guy in the video I recommend Goliath Games for a good urgot player to watch Max W because thats your highest dps, and it'll be manaless Remember to turn off W when running away so you don't get slowed down if you hit stuff You generally lose to Sett and Morde While hitting towers with max level w, let the w hit 3 times, turn it off, auto tower, then turn it back on to maximize damage on turrets (can also be done on champions but its pretty difficult)
@@JfkNeedsWindWall you just build damage on tank and then you have more health than the enemies and do damage so you dont need to know how to play off a tank if they are 1v5'ing every fight. not quite sure youre getting the point here pal
@@gwl-7946 I dont think you understand what I'm saying. Do you know what a tank is? Building tank and picking a tank are completely different things. A maokai for instance is god awful if he doesn't have a team that follows up while he soaks up cooldowns and ccs.
Things to know with Urgot -> your Q focuses your W. You can flash E. Two points in E early can help you in tougher lanes because you get a better shield. You beat basically everyone level 1 with an E start, you beat every single person in the game lvl 1 running ignite over TP. Except for maybe Quinn and possibly Kled.
e max first isnt good because level nine is urgots biggest powerspike when youre maxxing w, w gets no cooldown and no mana cost and goes indefinitely when maxxed
@@carsonshoptaw6872 I do, people in low elo only maxes W. I do it also, just because it's fun, but being realistics, it brings more value maxing Q than W. Maxing W only works if you know how to cancel AA with it every 3 ticks, otherwise, it's useless for the early game.
@@ignacioariellopez8491 i you aren't capable of doing one of the most generic and basic mechanics of urgot by aa every third tick of w you aren't playing him right anyway. that said its only realistically possible against towers, minions, monsters, and some skirmishing situations. also, most people max w still and alternate e or q based on match up and how far ahead they are even in high diamond and masters.
@@jamestaylor9887 "most generic and basic" Yeah sure, thats why most of the urgots i see, in every elo, dont do it LMAO. Maxing W is useless, if you do it, either you are freaking lazy, or first time urgot. Really, google the fucking abilities, Q value each level is waaay better than W. W doesnt scale until mid late game, 2 to 3 items, while Q in early has soo much more dmg each lvl, and increases slow.
This is actually really good stuff. I would like to know why you didn't have urgot take glacial into the trynd though. I find that matchup is nice with glacial but hard otherwise (baring successful lvl 1 cheese or jg pressure).
I’ve played on and off since Season 4 plat 1 peak when GP was good and NEACE was streaming a lot of him around S7. It’s hard for me to one trick now and I play a champ for no more than a game or two (since I have all of them) . Watching this guy last hit a minion .2sec too early missing 40 or cs because of this gets my panties in a bunch tbh haha
There is no real reason to purchase multiple items at once. After ~50games of toplane you should be able to buy everything(that toplaners build) fast enough. I mean you can even create your own build paths
@@michaelbitzer7295 I was just thinking it could help even just getting a single component. Instead of searching for dagger or clicking on tri force to find have dagger just available, even with if it is only a little bit it gets you back to lane faster
Ya I have like a 65% win rate as anivia support. Then I tried the Korean challenger anivia support build, and it just didn't work at all. I'm silver btw. It works much better for me to just build into damage.
This guy is literally the worst Urgot I have ever seen. He doesn't even know how to use the shotgun legs. This video is hilarious I am going to subscribe cause I'm in stiches over here.
Having played paragon, being high mmr didnt mean you had understanding of the game. Was not a lot of players, no ranked, top players normally 5 stacked and steam rolled enemy. I thought similar but the best in paragon were good mechanically but we had silver mentality for sure lol
Lol bro thats a completely different type of game.You need to work on your aim,crosshair placement and gamesense I would say other things as well but valorant is an easier cs go
make sure to stay in control of the camera at all times, lowering the camera speed if you struggle, and if it's too slow for you, speed it up a little and find what works best for you. As I learned this, I just made a new account to do it, because I was literally playing that bad then.
I have one question, what if im 3/0 and i have hydra and middle of tri force on fiora and im split pushing but my team cant defend and when i go to defend i also die so if i split push again my team cant defend nexus and when i recall i also die when i try to defend. This is my biggest issue with matches like these please tell what to do ^^
I believe that the whole purpose of splitpushing is about pressure the map so that if they send 2 people to defend that splitpush you as a fed fiora could take them both and in the base your team goes in a 4v3 instead of 4v5
When you are splitpushing, you are committed chickening out makes everything worse. And you just got trolled by matchmaking when they cant even def a turret.
That Yi is on a fresh account and has won 13 out of 18 games and is only Bronze 4. This game's ladder is a fucking joke. In order to combat smurfs we're going to make the smurfs play even more games in low elo
People should learn what "int" actually means. It stands for "intentional", short for "intentional feeding". I see people getting yelled at for "inting" when they're just having a bad game.
a lot of the advice he gives is asking too much from a player of this skill level. Like yea you can get some harrass in under tower on him if you know the turret range well but silvers arent going to be able to do that without taking a tower shot so why even ask him to do that. And like hes laning tryndamyre its not like the poke is really gonna matter to him anyway.
I love this videos better than the gamplay ones..
Just came across your TH-cam channel. I've heard you are tough on people, but the way you were to this guy you were teaching seemed fine. I really appreciate your style of coaching from what I saw here.
Neace I want to thank you again for your channel, been playing since season 4, playing a lot, I realise that I knew nothing about playing top lane, and how unimportant the champion you play is once you understand the fundamentals.. i was silver and im at plat mmr after 1 week, 8 games winning spree today. Learning wave management made a HUUUGE difference, I did not know how to shove properly ( pushing the 2nd wave incoming ) and how to do this to not lose cs and get back to lane to freeze under tower... only this can win u game and make u understand splitpush. I play top lane now, i dont play one champ. thanks man
It's said because it is true. I played Wukong to plat and silver and low gold, building tank items just throws your lead because no one on your team has the skills or knowledge to follow up on you with shit.
“does this game feel urgent to you”
-looks bot and sees 50 health Vayne die to a spider lmaoo
20:01 it's perfect.
These are really good coaching. I'm trying to learn Riven and these do help on seeing how to think.
If you wanna learn Riven, NEACE is not the person for you. Riven is a hard champion to master cause she is very weak against most champs, especially early game. She's got the most outplay potential out of all top lane champs though
To the guy in the video
I recommend Goliath Games for a good urgot player to watch
Max W because thats your highest dps, and it'll be manaless
Remember to turn off W when running away so you don't get slowed down if you hit stuff
You generally lose to Sett and Morde
While hitting towers with max level w, let the w hit 3 times, turn it off, auto tower, then turn it back on to maximize damage on turrets (can also be done on champions but its pretty difficult)
low elo champ select: can you pick a tank top? can you pick a tank jungle?
low elo top/jungler does not pick a tank: gg we lost no tank.
Right. As if they actually know how to team fight properly to make use of a tank.
@@JfkNeedsWindWall you just build damage on tank and then you have more health than the enemies and do damage so you dont need to know how to play off a tank if they are 1v5'ing every fight. not quite sure youre getting the point here pal
@@gwl-7946 I dont think you understand what I'm saying. Do you know what a tank is? Building tank and picking a tank are completely different things. A maokai for instance is god awful if he doesn't have a team that follows up while he soaks up cooldowns and ccs.
@@JfkNeedsWindWall yo buddy im not reading that too long, waste of my time. im gonna guess that im right on this one pal
@@gwl-7946 haha. Its 3 sentences and explains what a tank is. Holy shit you are lazy
Really love these coaching vids
I hate when video says part one in description and it is not. Shows me how much love is there for the audience
Things to know with Urgot -> your Q focuses your W. You can flash E. Two points in E early can help you in tougher lanes because you get a better shield. You beat basically everyone level 1 with an E start, you beat every single person in the game lvl 1 running ignite over TP. Except for maybe Quinn and possibly Kled.
Oof, he's maxing E when he should max W
The only thing i could think About the whole video
Frederik Cowfoot ue the whole lvl 9 power spike is cuz items yes and also permanent Nono circle urgot
It was worse when he didn’t up his ult at 11 or 12
I was cringy all game because of that haha
@@lchenny8288 not leveling ult was actually a good idea because leveling w gives you a greater powerspike than ult
e max first isnt good because level nine is urgots biggest powerspike when youre maxxing w, w gets no cooldown and no mana cost and goes indefinitely when maxxed
Actually, Urgot maximies Q, not W. Its sooo much better, and so much more useful.
@@ignacioariellopez8491 lol, you obviously don't play the champ
@@carsonshoptaw6872 I do, people in low elo only maxes W.
I do it also, just because it's fun, but being realistics, it brings more value maxing Q than W. Maxing W only works if you know how to cancel AA with it every 3 ticks, otherwise, it's useless for the early game.
@@ignacioariellopez8491 i you aren't capable of doing one of the most generic and basic mechanics of urgot by aa every third tick of w you aren't playing him right anyway. that said its only realistically possible against towers, minions, monsters, and some skirmishing situations. also, most people max w still and alternate e or q based on match up and how far ahead they are even in high diamond and masters.
@@jamestaylor9887 "most generic and basic" Yeah sure, thats why most of the urgots i see, in every elo, dont do it LMAO.
Maxing W is useless, if you do it, either you are freaking lazy, or first time urgot. Really, google the fucking abilities, Q value each level is waaay better than W.
W doesnt scale until mid late game, 2 to 3 items, while Q in early has soo much more dmg each lvl, and increases slow.
Neace content is tha bomb
Thanks man!
This is actually really good stuff. I would like to know why you didn't have urgot take glacial into the trynd though. I find that matchup is nice with glacial but hard otherwise (baring successful lvl 1 cheese or jg pressure).
19:10 WHY!! He didn't take a second point in his ult
I’ve played on and off since Season 4 plat 1 peak when GP was good and NEACE was streaming a lot of him around S7. It’s hard for me to one trick now and I play a champ for no more than a game or two (since I have all of them) . Watching this guy last hit a minion .2sec too early missing 40 or cs because of this gets my panties in a bunch tbh haha
Great coaching do u do jungle coaching too? Thanks!
Huh, only 12 comments, neat. Also, this information is valuable
5:26 i forgot about that lmfao I use the shift 1-4 for my teammates and spcebr for myself.
Hey Neace, I know you do top and mid coaching, but how do you feel about bot lane coaching?
Love the content❤
Part1 in description. Where? I think you forgot to add the link or i'm blind(both options are equaly likely, i am not sarcastic)
Insaaannneee tips bro
As an urgot main this biggest mistake here is that he doesn't know his own champ maxing w gives u the option to have ur purge open permanently..
I think it could also help if they made item sets for faster shopping.
There is no real reason to purchase multiple items at once. After ~50games of toplane you should be able to buy everything(that toplaners build) fast enough. I mean you can even create your own build paths
@@michaelbitzer7295 I was just thinking it could help even just getting a single component. Instead of searching for dagger or clicking on tri force to find have dagger just available, even with if it is only a little bit it gets you back to lane faster
Ya I have like a 65% win rate as anivia support. Then I tried the Korean challenger anivia support build, and it just didn't work at all. I'm silver btw. It works much better for me to just build into damage.
This guy is literally the worst Urgot I have ever seen. He doesn't even know how to use the shotgun legs. This video is hilarious I am going to subscribe cause I'm in stiches over here.
where is part one? I can't find it
@neace please force the alt-ability lvling down his throath, other than that damn man he picks it up decently
Having played paragon, being high mmr didnt mean you had understanding of the game. Was not a lot of players, no ranked, top players normally 5 stacked and steam rolled enemy. I thought similar but the best in paragon were good mechanically but we had silver mentality for sure lol
sorry for the noob question but why does he never level up ult? and only w and e?
21:35
19:15
Neace ever thought of coaching a team? I'd pay for that shit haha
Ugh I hate seeing new champ mechanics, mine included. Hopefully this video helps people.
Hey Neace, do you coach for brazilian servers?
21:32 he still doesn't lvl up ult at 12? Is that an urgot thing?
That Yi is Iron I with 8 wins and 2 losses. That’s how this season works lol
Yeah, riot nerfed elo boosting
Been trying this stray in silver 1 and I gotta say it’s not working for me hahaha.... not sure exactly where I’m going wrong here
do you play games like valorant would you ever do lessons on that?
Lol bro thats a completely different type of game.You need to work on your aim,crosshair placement and gamesense I would say other things as well but valorant is an easier cs go
The old garen can play tank. But they change his kit to attack speed. So ya.
You are very tanky as a garen even without tank items. conditioning/w passive with deaths dance makes you quite strong
little does he know that HAD try got his ult back at 13:40 and used it his execute would have been cancelled.
Bro Neace is high asf right now
Neace. Any advice to stop using lock screen?
just dont use locked screen?
@@nanee9391 used to it. Nice profile pic btw
Get used to tapping the space bar =)
@@Cypressus750 play rts, legit i was surprised people play locked screen, until i realized i play a ton of AoE 2 and Red Alert 2
make sure to stay in control of the camera at all times, lowering the camera speed if you struggle, and if it's too slow for you, speed it up a little and find what works best for you. As I learned this, I just made a new account to do it, because I was literally playing that bad then.
Don't build to tank in low elo ever...
that one adc: take that back right now.
@@TidanOfc Fair.
Low elo team: “WE NEEDED A TANK!”
@@googlepoodle5814 Tell them, no you don't. "YOU NEED A HEEEEERO!"
Maxwellia Voices he’s gotta be strong, and he’s gotta be fast
wait...was that his blitzcrank top item page LOL
No its from blitz.gg
Have him play mundo and go where he pleases building tank. EZ
I gave up toplane and started playing botlane so I don't have to rely on my team.
Trying to learn something here as urgot but dudes play is frustrating me.
So he makes him get oracle at level 9 but if blue trinket gets unlocked at 9 why not take it
Blue is only valuable if you know how to use it very well. Red trinket is just guaranteed gold and xp
red trinket also fits neace's play style more.
he kept leveling w instead of his ult
I felt mentally tortured when he maxed E instead of W...
I mean you are playing Urgot.. And you donno what happen when u max your W..!!!
How do I sign up for coaching??? Someone please tell me
Gra GiGi what?????
Gra GiGi is that not a thing
Info in description
I have one question, what if im 3/0 and i have hydra and middle of tri force on fiora and im split pushing but my team cant defend and when i go to defend i also die so if i split push again my team cant defend nexus and when i recall i also die when i try to defend. This is my biggest issue with matches like these please tell what to do ^^
I believe that the whole purpose of splitpushing is about pressure the map so that if they send 2 people to defend that splitpush you as a fed fiora could take them both and in the base your team goes in a 4v3 instead of 4v5
When you are splitpushing, you are committed chickening out makes everything worse.
And you just got trolled by matchmaking when they cant even def a turret.
Hydra on fiora? Why
@@michaelbitzer7295 I believe that's the first item? I don't play fiora so I can't confirm
@@ivaneyherabide3204 oh lol im stupid 😅 i forgot that tiamat builds into two items with the name hydra. I thought you meant titanic 🙈
I missed this maybe but why max E?
You don't max e first on Urgot. Max w. Then E. then q last.
@@TheSipherArcher i know thats why i was asking
That Yi is on a fresh account and has won 13 out of 18 games and is only Bronze 4. This game's ladder is a fucking joke. In order to combat smurfs we're going to make the smurfs play even more games in low elo
The amount of missing farm from 12:09 just hurts my eyes. God this player needs to improve his cs.
thats low hanging fruit
ur stream sounds are too loud in vid
I'm so early xD
People should learn what "int" actually means. It stands for "intentional", short for "intentional feeding". I see people getting yelled at for "inting" when they're just having a bad game.
a lot of the advice he gives is asking too much from a player of this skill level. Like yea you can get some harrass in under tower on him if you know the turret range well but silvers arent going to be able to do that without taking a tower shot so why even ask him to do that. And like hes laning tryndamyre its not like the poke is really gonna matter to him anyway.
How is this guys silver
Him maxing E makes me wanna vomit
Also him putting a level in w at level 11 instead of ult, turbocringe
Bro his csing is so cringe
This guy I can guarantee was not at all a top 100 player in Paragon. His wave management and MOBA fundamentals are dogshit.
now get yourself a coach and pretend to be a silver player
i hope neace doesnt ever drop to that low.
Yes please
Space is Fake I enjoy those videos honestly
Neace become the Glaccier.
bruhh this guy got no clue about champs xD