Iran executes more political prisoners than any country in the world except China which has over a billion people in it. Where is international law for them?
We the Irish were called terrorists by the british for fighting to get them out of our country,one terrorist is another mans freedom fighter,what would you do if you were Palestinian.
@@bluestar6879under blockade and occupation 🤷🏾♂️ you know they don’t even allow in chocolate and also calculated calories per person in Gaza. It’s a no brainer really
@@bluestar6879 West bank or Judea and Samaria is. No "terrorist" organizations there, only corrupt PA, who comply with occupation force. Your point? Whoops.
imagine i kick you out of your house then the whole neighborhood suggests that you negotiate with me so you can receive 45% of your house back. like any normal person would do, you'd fight back for your whole house. this started in 1947 not october 7th 2023.
@@victormeidan1062 I replied to your comment yesterday, saying that very few people have ever mentioned this. I read about it a while ago, and I was staggered why it wasn’t talked about more.
@@eddiecalderone Because: 1. Most people live under the delusion that all Israelis came from Europe due to Holokost. (This is problematic since the Holokost made Israel's creation LESS likely than it would have been. But that is a separate story). 2. Although the Jewish Nakba was more instrumental to early Israel's growth, the story was dwarfed by the greater tragedy occurring a few years earlier in Europe. PS: There is a gap in the market for a Hollywood Blockbuster that is set during the Jewish Nakba.
James you say October 7 was the worst thing to happen to Jews since the Holocaust but the Palestinians have lived so many Holocausts for the past few decades. Why the double standards????
@scottcamuto8410 yes I do know the meaning but obviously only the suffering of Jews is acknowledged. All the suffering that the Palestinians have endured for the past decades means nothing .
But they don’t have the right to massacre people because of their religion and ethnicity. Sorry but if Israel did the same thing you would be outraged.
@@chatham43 I thought he was clear - I thought you were trying to demean his concern for the carnage - just my opinion. I suppose it depends on what you were trying to achieve.
If you’d told me a couple of years ago that I’d be glad that Iran (IRAN) were standing up to a vicious regime in the Middle East I’d have laughed in your face - but here we are
@@MrWhitmen1981weak. You don't care less about them and never have. Lame. Correct me by listing all the activism you've been involved in in support of Iranian women. Provide the full list please.
@@eddiecalderoneit wasnt a war zone. The red crescent liased with the idf. The idf gave them the exact route. They told them to go. A 6 year old girl murdered after being stuck in a car with her dead relatives. Two paramedics who went to save her. You are absolutely vile that you call her collateral damage. Disgusting.
Spot on. If they can lie and spin what happens today and get away with it then they can do the same with the past with much more ease as there is often nobody alive to tell otherwise.
There are testimonies of victims, IDF soldiers, footages from Apachi helicopters and much, MUCH more physical evidence and documents that seriously challenging official story but you will not hear that from western MSM. Luckly, there are independent journalists and media who are digging deep and presenting those evidence.
What changed after 76 years of occupation… Palestinians still exist and resist! ❤ I was wondering if these 76 years could make Palestinians lose hope of liberation but just remembered that France occupied Algeria for more than 130 years and they called it French Algeria. Many examples in history say this occupation will end and PALESTINE will be free❤
@@michaelopoku4837 then why was it still under blockade by isrl since then? Why is it that if anyone wants to leave they have to go through isrl first even if it's through the Rafah border with Egypt? Why is it that all goods have to be approved by isrl first before entering Gaza since then? Why is it that isrl won't allow them to have a seaport or airport? Why is it that isrl prevented Gaza from holding an election in 2018? All of this is because there is no occupation 🤡
Anyone believing Netanyahu and his cohorts had any concern about returning the hostages should have been disabused of that opinion a long time ago. The extremists on both sides are calling the shots (quite literally) and those in the centre ground, who just want to get on with their lives, have been ignored. And all the while this goes on, the potential prosecutions that Netanyahu was facing get pushed further away.
@@bluestar6879 Newsflash: I was referring to the potential War Crimes charges being investigated by The Hague. But don't worry, I'm sure his dubious domestic shenanigans will throw up other tidbits going forwards.
@@mcdon2401 With the domestic corruption, the prosecution finished presenting their evidence about 1 year ago. All 3 judges told the attorney-general that they could find "No evidence of any corruption by the PM" and they urged the A-G to close the case. The Leftist Progressive A-G has refused. So the case continues & now the Defence is presenting its evidence. Yet the whole saga is effectively a giant, expensive farce!
@@mcdon2401 ICC should hurry up & present its wonderous big evidence. Otherwise, the whole show looks like a big political joke (which it already is).
@@bluestar6879 I'm sure they will, once the suspects are turned over for trial...that's usually how these things work. I'm sure if there's nothing to fear from the trail, Mr Netanyahu and Mr Gallant will be more than happy to surrender themselves to the jurisdiction of the court... But then I'm also sure they'll claim they're needed during the ever expanding actions they're taking in the region. Kinda hard to justify it's still a hostage rescue when you're taking on countries that don't contain the hostages.
@@angeloscalabrin3982 Not carried out by Israel?????? They organised the massacre, ffs! They provided the weapons, the training and even shot the flares into the night sky to illuminate the refugee camp. The levels of denial by you people is off the scale.
@@angeloscalabrin3982 They invited the Phalangists in, lit up the camps with flares so they could see what they were doing, and also prevented the Palestinians from escaping, so it was a shared massacre, I'd say. And as bad if not worse than Oct 7th.
@tanyajacobs9974 Hamae exists because of Israel.. When a peace deal was being negoiated the israel leader was assainated by an israeli and then the new far right government propped up and supported the formation of hamas
@@monkeyzx9 not according to the numbers on the "counter protests"...barely double digits on saturday...creative camera angles by the torahgraph to try to make out there is more support for the zios
Interesting how James characterize the « attack » always coming from Hamas and Hezbollah but only « responses » by Israel. As if Hamas and Hezbollah are on the offensive and Israel on the defensive. The entire framework of this monologue is biased in its setup.
These imperialists will never change. See how supportive this host and majority of them are to the oppressive regime. They derive joy in their ancestral loots.
@@jake751 England not Scotland?? Britain?? Germany not France? or the EU??? Australia - hehe Canada - hehehe Tell us more, how. Please tell us - i need a laugh
Israel has a policy of deliberately targeting civilians to create fear. The thinking is possibly that non-combatants would respond by restraining resistance forces like Hamas and Hezbollah that the west see as terrorists. Most if the world considers this abhorrent and brlieve Gaza and Lebanon have a right to self defence and consider Israel to be a terror state.
@@whisperingleaves Its called the Dahiya Directive and was first used during the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982. The policy is to target civilians and civilian infrastructure to put pressure on the paramilitaries. Its a well known fact. Google is your friend here.
The IDF returned to northern Gaza, they’ve destroyed the place but still haven’t managed to beat them. Are they incompetent or did they just want to level the place and make it uninhabitable?
What has been the worst atrocity against the Palestinians since the Nakba? How many in the West actually know what the Nakba is, and what happened to the Palestinians in 1948?
There were 2 Nakbas. An Arab one A Jewish one Involving the kicking out 1 million Js out of the Arab World in the 1950s & 1960s. Any reckoning of these Nakbas, must involve BOTH SIDES., not just one.
@AKHill-gj2uy We are very well aware of the nakba… We in the west have had many nakbas too….. However we didn’t embrace a life dependent on handouts, charity and other forms of aid. While calling for the death and demise of the countries who give us money
@@victormeidan1062 The vast majority of whom chose to emigrate, and as was noted at the time by the Knesset, their lives were not in iminent danger, and most left their property behind voluntarily. You think that is comparable to people literally fleeing burning homes, and their land stolen? Get a grip.
@@AKHill-gj2uy With the partial exception of Morocco, where pogroms were organized on a regional basis, all Js were expelled whilst their homes, businesses and stuff was expropriated. In the case of Iraq, peoples' high school certificates were expropriated. Many arrived in Israel with just their clothes on the back. Indeed, the Jewish Nakba was worst than than the Arab one because the Jewish minorities never planned to destroy their Arab home state. Let's add up properties, businesses and lands stolen and determine who owes money to who. Fair is fair.
The wonderful Jewish people I regularly march with in London explained to me that being the "Chosen people" was a responsibility to be an example to humanity.
@James O'Brien , What does "since the holocaust" have to do with anything other than provoke emotional response to help manufacture consent and feed into the narrative that history started on Oct 7. If we are talking about the conflict in its entirety, then Oct 7 is not even close to being the worst atrocity committed against civilians in history of this conflict, most of which were committed by Israel and is still ongoing. Is it just that only the lives of jewish people matter the most and all what is happening/has been happening to Palestinians don't matter as much?
@@chatham43 and sure that the tens of thousands butchered in Gaza by the IDF and the millions of people who are made homeless and barely surviving over the past year appreciate you completely ignoring them. Well done.
There’s a school, no it’s not it’s a “command centre” there’s a mosque, no it’s a “command centre” there’s a hospital, no it’s a “command centre” watch out. It seems anything deemed a command centre is fair game to the judge, juror and executioner.
Western leaders remember Oct 7, but no mention of the 4000 victims of Sabra and Shatila massacre or the Nagba, or the numerous other massacres of Palestinians. Peace will only be achieved when the Western world puts the same value on Palestinian lives as it does Jewish lives. Is this such a difficult proposition?.
I thought James would be smarter and more informed at this point. It's amusing that he includes "kkhammass" among those people that he thinks might oppose a two state solution. If a two state solution were to be genuinely offered with fair terms, on that very day they would likely cease their resistance. Because for Hamas, every act of resistance is a massive risk. They know they're utterly outmatched. They fight because they have no other choice. Do you honestly think that if the chance for a dignified self-determination was given to them, they would continue fighting an uphill battle? The only one that has been against the Two State solution, or any solution that involves giving Palestinians their rights have been this Izraeli regime.
The international community. Or individuals countries. You can be a terrorist in country A, B, C and D but not considered a terrorist in countries E,F,G and H. However if country B prescribes YOU as a terrorist, B can decide to strain bilateral relations with country F. I live and work in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Hamas and Hezbollah are prescribed by the U.K. government as terrorist organisations. Any one showing support, aiding or abetting their cause is subject to legal protection and criminal conviction. I would deport them on the spot.
Israel has a policy of deliberately targeting civilians to create fear. The thinking is possibly that non-combatants would respond by restraining resistance forces like Hamas and Hezbollah that the west see as terrorists. Most if the world considers this abhorrent and brlieve Gaza and Lebanon have a right to self defence and consider Israel to be a terror state.
@@bluestar6879 I think Jonathan pretty much described the Da hi ya doctrine. In my book it's the definition of a "Ter ror State" and a documented policy of that state.
Until that moment I thought that Mehdi Hassan was a serious journalist; he may have been so in the last, but now he's an entertainer. No half serious journalist would debate with Levi; the man's a 60kg clown.
@@r.b6170 you consider eylon levi a clown, why? Yes, he was dismissed as the spokesperson for Israel but he was a spokesperson. He had some standing.. He had verbal ability that is valued. He utters his nonsense, which if not countered, can be used to spout zionist talking points.. Mehdi helps to defeat those arguments.. helps to defeat the ideal of the 'Jewish/Israeli Intellectual. I have been reading that he should get a Nobel peace prize.. That is what I find farcical.
Between 1948 to 1967 Gaza was ruled by Egypt and the West Bank by Jordan. Please explain why there was no Palestinian uprising against this "occupation " during this time.
Starmer has said "There is a real danger of regional war in the Middle East", Will someone tell him there already is a regional war in the Middle East.
you are one of the few who always relate to the core issue. -2 soverine states for two nations. always use the words palestine and occupation. thanx.never let go the core issue. all the rest would be dealt in icc and icj. again and again ..... . ..and again----2 states for 2 people.
not whilst the zios covert the land... and zios from around the world flock to israel its not about revenge, it is a land grab, oct 7th was the excuse...and planned by tel aviv for many years, that is why they turned up the pressure on gaza, funded hms, and put sinwar in charge
If things go back to the status quo, I dont see anyone investing in Israel again!! Who would invest billions when this whole thing can just flare up within a year again?? Who would want to do Aliya in Israel again?? I mean some soulless people still would, but I cannot imagine any decent human being going there and taking a house that belonged to Palestinians for yourself..Before, people could ACT like they did not know. But now we all know.... All of this and we have not even touched the problems within Israel amongst its citizens with each other...Call me silly, but I think Israel will have a huge problem coming up.
@fannycasteel7118 What you mention is what exactly happens in the case of Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Libya, Egypt (to a lesser extent) and to a greater degree Iran. Unstable economies and very volatile governments. Israel is a world leader in medical science, tech innovation, agriculture water reuse, energy efficiency research and environmental science. It’s a land of miracles. I don’t know which year you arrived in this wonderful (albeit complicated) world, or where you were educated, but let me tell you that the modern state of Israel has been fighting wars with its neighbours since it’s inception. Why do you think Saudi Arabia, UAE and Qatar relaxed their relations with Israel?
@@eddiecalderone Israel would be NOTHING without free US tax dollars. You can adopt any poor baby and give it to rich parents , and that child will excel at anything because of the wealth of the family. Acting like Israel is special is just plain delusional. If the US chose Lebanon instead of Israel, the Lebanese would think that they were special too
@@eddiecalderone Do you know why most countries in the ME are economically weak?? Its because of US sanctions to keep them weak in order to keep israel safe and strong. Israel however is toast. I know you dont want to see it and think just because Israel is killing large amounts of people, they are winning. But they are not. Just look closer
It was NOT an attack on the Jewish people. It was an attack on the Israeli people. Israel is the occupier. The religious identity of the occupier is irrelevant. Your choice to frame it as a religious, sectarian motivated attack is disingenuous and part of the problem. Do better please James
The abusive behaviour towards the father of one of the hostages , by Israelis, as he demonstrated in Tel aviv against Netanyahu’s policies, may be due to their ability to come to accept the constant brutal and dehumanising behaviour inflicted on the people of Gaza, particularly Women, children, babies and other vulnerable groups. How could you carry on normally when you know the misery your family members, friends, and others you know may be inflicting brutal pain and horrendous suffering on others . If this is not stopped and soon, many Israelis may turn on each other. In the process of dehumanising the Palestinians and others, some Israelis may become dehumanised themselves?
“The worst atrocity committed against Jewish people since the holocaust” though true, it’s like comparing a tsunami to wave in broadstairs beach. It’s a very emotive phrase and it’s sole purpose has unfortunately been used to justify far worse atrocities since 7.10. There are far better ways to respect the anniversary of 7.10 than to use emotive Israeli spokesperson phrases used as propaganda to nazify Palestinians. You have shown great empathy to both side, but c’mon, you are better than that O’Brian
Is he though? I feel like most people aren't actually spending much time looking at the nuances, and instead just look at numbers and react to them. Most of the comments don't even make any sense, when you look at the activities more objectively.
I feel you acknowledging that it's true really handicaps your point. We shouldn't ignore things that are true just cause they're inconvenient to our argument
@@zlaw691 if you can’t see why using a phrase used by Israeli spokespersons and propagandists of comparing 7.10 (695 civilian deaths) to the holocaust (over 6,000,000 civilian deaths) for the sole purpose of justifying what has and is happening to Palestinians then I really can’t help you. So with that knowledge, this ‘truth’ is awfully stretched, and is pretty obvious why it’s been used in such a dangerous way that for a journalist like O’Brian to parrot is quite irresponsible.
@tariqjoseph3562 I mean the truth can be used for propaganda as well. But if you start telling people to ignore/don't say something you know is true then I think you're doing your own side of the argument a disservice. Regardless of larger context October 7th was a hugely significant day that not unreasonably gets compared to the September 11th attacks. It's an inconvenient truth for those of us, myself included, who feel Israel's government has handled this terribly and horrifically, much like the American government did after September 11. But you're suggestion that people shouldn't acknowledge something that's true because the other side uses that fact as propaganda doesn't seem helpful, in my opinion of course
Terrorists are terrorists. Doesn't get more simple than that. Maybe we should all do our research on History to find out where the true hate started and where we are today
This is a channel from Britain. Everyone knows when the true hate started. Britain caused it with the Belfour Declaration. Plenty of pre-Israel Palestinian Jews alive to testify to that.
You're spot on for Israelis. Clearly you haven't been talking to Palestinians. They want food, water, a sewage system. They want their schools and universities back. They don't have the luxury to reject the existence of Israel.
People who think Palestinians want a state in any form of Isreal state is delusional They just have to listen to the Palestinians. They say all the land is theirs
A simple question to solve all the dilemmas related to the conflict in Gaza. Ready, Mr O'Brien? During WW2, the British and American air forces bombed Dresden. Tens of thousands of civilians died. Who was to blame? The Nazis or the Allies? If you reply, the Nazis, then Hamas is to blame.
@angusmcfarlane1225 The number of times the Luftwaffe bombed cities, towns and villages were thousands of innocent civilians died are too many to mention. Never mind the v1 and V2 bombs…. Why should anyone care about Dresden?
You were all to eager to support the Isreal narrative, you outsourced your thinking at the time. Most of us knew, even today some isolate this to Netanyahu. It’s the entire state of Isreal including most of its people and their enablers the US and UK Israel that enable this. This conflict did not start on 7 Oct.
The French freedom fighters were called the resistance in ww2 because they fought the invaders of their own country. Why were the Palestinians not afforded the same title for a similar cause ????
“The fault is on both sides” from the ‘Yes Prime Minister’ TV series shown 1986. Something’s just won’t change. This debate will go on for a 1000+ years.
Conflating the October 7 attacks with the Holocaust is highly problematic. It devalues the Holocaust while justifying the carnage unleashed on the Palestinians in Gaza (and the West Bank) and on the Lebanese. It also devalues Palestinian lives who in terms of the size of the attack have suffered exponentially more. Before October 7th 96% of all deaths in this conflict were Palestinian. That bizarre percentage has only gone up. I feel that these discussions about 'how this is going to end' are highly disingenuous. The ICJ has ruled that the decades long Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories, as the apartheid and the settlements are illegal. Should O'Brien and the bothsides centrist crowd truly care about international law then they would push Israel and western governments to follow the ICJ's recommendations. That also includes the current war of annihilation and hunger which the ICJ has also ruled that Israel should stop.
Was the Holocaust an attack on military bases with a combatant to civilian ratio of 1:1.4 in one day ending in a battle? Are they really comparable in any way? Can we drop the Holocaust comparison already?
What a dreadful mistake for Obrien to do this on an anniversary of mass killings. It's akin to him describing the bombing of Dresden ,or the innocents killed during the breaching of the Mona Dam on Armistice Day. shame on you O brien for doing this, you could of done this programme on any other day rather than than 7/10.
How many lives would be saved if Arab Muslim countries opened their borders for Palestinians. Europe did for Ukrainians. Nobody talks about Egypt closing its border to Palestinians.
3:50 Hezbollah had nothing to do with October 7th? Yeah, and Germany had nothing do do with the Attack on Pearl Harbor on 7th December 1941, but The USA still went to war with them as well as Japan... What a moronic comment.
Hostages dying at the hands of panicking terrosists ??? Ummm what ??? You mean terrosists that are panicking that maybe the people they took captive might be freed ?? Poor panicky terrorists that must be a very difficult emotional ordeal to navigate, I can’t imagine how they get thru that.
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Nothing will ever change until everyone is held to the same international law
Iran executes more political prisoners than any country in the world except China which has over a billion people in it. Where is international law for them?
And when one religion/race is not set above another.
You would do just the same.
irishpharoah Wise words
There is no such thing as "International Law"
Whose the International Sheriff ?
We the Irish were called terrorists by the british for fighting to get them out of our country,one terrorist is another mans freedom fighter,what would you do if you were Palestinian.
'War is the rich man's terrorism. Terrorism is the poor man's war'
And we resisted for FAR less up the north than the Palestinians are currently resisting for.
Go raibh maith agut a chara.
The point in Northern Ireland was that a military couldn't achieve what diplomacy did.
@david Overthrow Hamas for using us as a human shield?
Every group of People under occupation, their resistance militias have always been labelled and called Terrorists its imperative.
So that rules out Gaza between 2005 to October 7th, 2023 then.
Gaza was FREE from foreign troops during that period.
Whoops.
@@bluestar6879under blockade and occupation 🤷🏾♂️ you know they don’t even allow in chocolate and also calculated calories per person in Gaza. It’s a no brainer really
Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorists, sorry to hurt your cute emotions 😂😂
@@TheMomeni If we would apply "terrorism" definition equally - there are far more terrorist organizations there. Including IDF or occupying force.
@@bluestar6879 West bank or Judea and Samaria is. No "terrorist" organizations there, only corrupt PA, who comply with occupation force. Your point? Whoops.
lets not forget this didn't start on Oct 7th
it did
@angeloscalabrin3982 it didn't
@@angeloscalabrin3982Israel has been terrorising and killing Palestinians for decades
@@angeloscalabrin3982 not worth replying to if you really believe it started on oct 7th
Yep I still haven't recovered fr Dier Yassin tragedy 😢
imagine i kick you out of your house then the whole neighborhood suggests that you negotiate with me so you can receive 45% of your house back. like any normal person would do, you'd fight back for your whole house. this started in 1947 not october 7th 2023.
@haulaahmad
Imagine I squatted illegally?
@@haulaahmad
There were 2 Nakbas.
An Arab one and a Jewish one.
Any attempt at reconciliation must consider both, NOT just one side.
And the same with Pakistan ?
@@victormeidan1062
I replied to your comment yesterday, saying that very few people have ever mentioned this. I read about it a while ago, and I was staggered why it wasn’t talked about more.
@@eddiecalderone
Because:
1. Most people live under the delusion that all Israelis came from Europe due to Holokost.
(This is problematic since the Holokost made Israel's creation LESS likely than it would have been. But that is a separate story).
2. Although the Jewish Nakba was more instrumental to early Israel's growth, the story was dwarfed by the greater tragedy occurring a few years earlier in Europe.
PS: There is a gap in the market for a Hollywood Blockbuster that is set during the Jewish Nakba.
Gaza isn't the largest refugee camp its the largest concentration camp.
its now graduated to the world's largest extermination camp
@@nikkster01 Exactly. Well said.
Nonsense.
@moh So what are you moaning about then Mo?😊
@@nikkster01
Real Naatsee Conc Camps had life expectancy of 1 hour.
Gazan "conc camp" had life expectancy of 74 years.
Hah ah ah......
James you say October 7 was the worst thing to happen to Jews since the Holocaust but the Palestinians have lived so many Holocausts for the past few decades. Why the double standards????
You obviously have no clue what the meaning of the holocaust is.
@scottcamuto8410 yes I do know the meaning but obviously only the suffering of Jews is acknowledged. All the suffering that the Palestinians have endured for the past decades means nothing .
@@scottcamuto8410 40,000 dead in 12 months? Mainly woman and children.
I think the world has been made pretty aware of Palestinians suffering this year
@@FatRonaldo1 This year. As in now. It's been going on since WW2 had just ended a few years prior.
The people of Palestine have a right to resist their country being stolen.
Do the people of England have the same right?
@pilgrimoftheworld
How is the resistance going
@pilgrim But Hamas won't give it backback!
@@pilgrimoftheworld
Which country? Palestine was never a country
But they don’t have the right to massacre people because of their religion and ethnicity. Sorry but if Israel did the same thing you would be outraged.
The 42000 dead in Gaza is not an atrocity?
The numbers are far more than that
Now should be 100k 😢
@howard So which atrocity do you prefer? You're not being very clear here!
@@chatham43Never heard of two wrongs don't make a right?
@@chatham43 I thought he was clear - I thought you were trying to demean his concern for the carnage - just my opinion. I suppose it depends on what you were trying to achieve.
If you’d told me a couple of years ago that I’d be glad that Iran (IRAN) were standing up to a vicious regime in the Middle East I’d have laughed in your face - but here we are
Agree 100%. The real terrorists aren't who I believed.
@faffer No you wouldn't.😂😂
Those poor Iranian women. Who just want to escape sharia law.
Same
@@MrWhitmen1981weak. You don't care less about them and never have. Lame. Correct me by listing all the activism you've been involved in in support of Iranian women. Provide the full list please.
Israel has the right to defend themselves from Hind Rajab
And the paramedics who died on the Israeli safe route given to them to save her life.
😢😢😢😢
@@brianferguson7840
Happen in war zones.
You served. You should know. It’s an unfortunate situation.
@@eddiecalderonedoctors have described children shot in the head. No collateral damage excuses that
@@eddiecalderoneit wasnt a war zone. The red crescent liased with the idf. The idf gave them the exact route. They told them to go. A 6 year old girl murdered after being stuck in a car with her dead relatives. Two paramedics who went to save her. You are absolutely vile that you call her collateral damage. Disgusting.
Israel has the right to defend themselves from 3 shirtless hostages
And small children.
The way this is all bring framed has me seriously questioning the version of history we have been given.
That's because the west defends the lie rather than face the truth.
Spot on. If they can lie and spin what happens today and get away with it then they can do the same with the past with much more ease as there is often nobody alive to tell otherwise.
History is written by the victor, its always beeb the untruth of the violent victors propoganda
There are testimonies of victims, IDF soldiers, footages from Apachi helicopters and much, MUCH more physical evidence and documents that seriously challenging official story but you will not hear that from western MSM. Luckly, there are independent journalists and media who are digging deep and presenting those evidence.
If you mean the propaganda apartheid narrative then i agree. They control the media
That horrific day when the IDF invoked the Hannibal thing bc.... land grab?
What changed after 76 years of occupation… Palestinians still exist and resist! ❤
I was wondering if these 76 years could make Palestinians lose hope of liberation but just remembered that France occupied Algeria for more than 130 years and they called it French Algeria. Many examples in history say this occupation will end and PALESTINE will be free❤
Land belongs to Israel, palastine a Roman name.
This started with the occupation and this will end when the occupation is over, and International Law of the Right to Return for refugees is respected
@@herotomillions4095 Isreal left Gaza in 2005.
@@michaelopoku4837 then why was it still under blockade by isrl since then? Why is it that if anyone wants to leave they have to go through isrl first even if it's through the Rafah border with Egypt? Why is it that all goods have to be approved by isrl first before entering Gaza since then? Why is it that isrl won't allow them to have a seaport or airport? Why is it that isrl prevented Gaza from holding an election in 2018? All of this is because there is no occupation 🤡
@@michaelopoku4837 then why has there been a blockade since?
@@herotomillions4095
Ghazza was under blockade because of the 10k rockets fired at Israel since 2005.
@@victormeidan1062 no. They were fired because of the occupation. Get your facts straight. No one fires that many rockets in a vacuum
Anyone believing Netanyahu and his cohorts had any concern about returning the hostages should have been disabused of that opinion a long time ago. The extremists on both sides are calling the shots (quite literally) and those in the centre ground, who just want to get on with their lives, have been ignored.
And all the while this goes on, the potential prosecutions that Netanyahu was facing get pushed further away.
Newsflash: I know this info is avoided in UK media but Netanyahu's trial has fallen apart.
@@bluestar6879 Newsflash: I was referring to the potential War Crimes charges being investigated by The Hague. But don't worry, I'm sure his dubious domestic shenanigans will throw up other tidbits going forwards.
@@mcdon2401
With the domestic corruption, the prosecution finished presenting their evidence about 1 year ago. All 3 judges told the attorney-general that they could find "No evidence of any corruption by the PM" and they urged the A-G to close the case. The Leftist Progressive A-G has refused.
So the case continues & now the Defence is presenting its evidence. Yet the whole saga is effectively a giant, expensive farce!
@@mcdon2401
ICC should hurry up & present its wonderous big evidence. Otherwise, the whole show looks like a big political joke (which it already is).
@@bluestar6879 I'm sure they will, once the suspects are turned over for trial...that's usually how these things work.
I'm sure if there's nothing to fear from the trail, Mr Netanyahu and Mr Gallant will be more than happy to surrender themselves to the jurisdiction of the court... But then I'm also sure they'll claim they're needed during the ever expanding actions they're taking in the region. Kinda hard to justify it's still a hostage rescue when you're taking on countries that don't contain the hostages.
Sabra and Shatila Massacres (September 1982
3000 dead
I remember that time, I was a kid terrified they were coming after me next
massacre not carried out by Israel, although they allowed it to happen without intervening
@@angeloscalabrin3982 Not carried out by Israel?????? They organised the massacre, ffs! They provided the weapons, the training and even shot the flares into the night sky to illuminate the refugee camp. The levels of denial by you people is off the scale.
@@angeloscalabrin3982 They invited the Phalangists in, lit up the camps with flares so they could see what they were doing, and also prevented the Palestinians from escaping, so it was a shared massacre, I'd say. And as bad if not worse than Oct 7th.
History did not start from 7th October
And those murdered babies must understand that! Devastating post!
Do the ppl of gaza have a right to free themselves and fight against their jailers? Or only israel has rights?
Well, those poor folk at the music festival and in the kibbutzim could hardly be described as jailers, could they.
First if all they need to free themselves from hamas.
@tanya He's a hamas supporter. Or you could call him something else!😊
@tanyajacobs9974 Hamae exists because of Israel.. When a peace deal was being negoiated the israel leader was assainated by an israeli and then the new far right government propped up and supported the formation of hamas
Who cares?
Millions in uk support palestine 🇵🇸
And millions don’t
@@monkeyzx9 not according to the numbers on the "counter protests"...barely double digits on saturday...creative camera angles by the torahgraph to try to make out there is more support for the zios
no only Palestinians who don't support hamas there is an evil amongst themselves people of the wold have to be careful who is supported
Your proof of this is?
@@nigelsynnott7344 the proof of this is the fact that there is open debate across the country over this……not that I need to prove anything to you.
Interesting how James characterize the « attack » always coming from Hamas and Hezbollah but only « responses » by Israel.
As if Hamas and Hezbollah are on the offensive and Israel on the defensive.
The entire framework of this monologue is biased in its setup.
These imperialists will never change. See how supportive this host and majority of them are to the oppressive regime. They derive joy in their ancestral loots.
He's a starmer supporter so he's biased and wrong.
Surely, the Occupation and system of Apartheid must end for things to chage and for any kind of reconciliation to commence.
Let's not forget the countries who let it happen.
@@jfl1746 who? Iran? Egypt? Jordan? Usa?
America/ England/ Germany/ Australia/ Canada
@@jake751 England not Scotland?? Britain??
Germany not France? or the EU???
Australia - hehe
Canada - hehehe
Tell us more, how.
Please tell us - i need a laugh
Iran lebbanon yemen syria?
@@jake751
England?
everything Germany did in WWII was presented as an act of self defense.
Dolt
@@talksmoke1190It's true.
Contrary to popular belief, monsters aren't inclined towards being honest about their motivations.
@@PoliticalAndTheologicalStudy hi crybaby
@@talksmoke1190 Does ad hominem tend to suggest you lost the argument?
was it accurate?
I wish somebody would define the word terrorist! At the moment, it seems it depends on very subjective definitions.
Google the Dahiya doctrine and the Hannibal directive and you will know everything about "the most moral army in the world"
The deathtoll is easily over 100,000 now
The Lancet think it's much closer to 200,000.
Sure its not 2 million, 10 million
@@chrimbus71 Denial isn't just the name of a river in Egypt, I see!
@@stephendoherty981 did mummy tell you that joke?
@@chrimbus71 Oh dear! What is it with far-rightists and 'mom' jokes? Mummy issues? You can pay people to help with that.
"KHAMAS were created and funded by Israel"
- Israeli Brig General Yitzhak Segev
- Avner Cohen former religious affairs minister
Israel has a policy of deliberately targeting civilians to create fear. The thinking is possibly that non-combatants would respond by restraining resistance forces like Hamas and Hezbollah that the west see as terrorists. Most if the world considers this abhorrent and brlieve Gaza and Lebanon have a right to self defence and consider Israel to be a terror state.
Where is the written policy? It would be interesting to see.
@@whisperingleaves Its called the Dahiya Directive and was first used during the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982. The policy is to target civilians and civilian infrastructure to put pressure on the paramilitaries. Its a well known fact. Google is your friend here.
Nonsense.
The IDF returned to northern Gaza, they’ve destroyed the place but still haven’t managed to beat them. Are they incompetent or did they just want to level the place and make it uninhabitable?
Yes.
@knight Yes what? Or is that stretching you!😊
@@chatham43yes to all the questions, dolt.
One more worst atrocity against Palestinians since, before, and after the Nakba.
As we always thought. Israel with more land.
The problem with a 2 state solution is that Israel thinks the 2 'states' are 1- Occupation and 2- Apartheid
Too much money being made for it to stop soon
You have investments there Jezza?
Money and oil will probably end it at some point. Ethics and morals will never, and hasn't ever really mattered in US foreign politics. Has it?
If that's what you want to believe. We live in a democracy unlike Palestine..and Iran.😊
@@chatham43
I just mean, there isn’t a lot of money in ethics! And with hidden bribes being legal in the US… lobbys paying for campaigns etc.
Four or five times the number of deaths? The low estimate implies over THIRTY times the number of deaths. What a strange comment.
"KHAMAS are an asset"
- Smotrich
Israel must be forced by the world to accept a sovereign Palestinian state. Peace is impossible otherwise. Until that happens: Boycott divest sanction
Why are you people so ignorant, it's not about land, it's religious war.
@@winnersfootballtv5517 hmm, why cannot it be both?
@@bravoalley228 because peace was offered many times and It was rejected, have you wondered why?.
@@winnersfootballtv5517 they didn't get any land?
@@winnersfootballtv5517would you accept less land than you started? And right of no return for your people ever? Get real!
What has been the worst atrocity against the Palestinians since the Nakba?
How many in the West actually know what the Nakba is, and what happened to the Palestinians in 1948?
There were 2 Nakbas.
An Arab one
A Jewish one Involving the kicking out 1 million Js out of the Arab World in the 1950s & 1960s.
Any reckoning of these Nakbas, must involve BOTH SIDES., not just one.
@@victormeidan1062
Thank you Victor
@AKHill-gj2uy
We are very well aware of the nakba…
We in the west have had many nakbas too…..
However we didn’t embrace a life dependent on handouts, charity and other forms of aid. While calling for the death and demise of the countries who give us money
@@victormeidan1062 The vast majority of whom chose to emigrate, and as was noted at the time by the Knesset, their lives were not in iminent danger, and most left their property behind voluntarily.
You think that is comparable to people literally fleeing burning homes, and their land stolen? Get a grip.
@@AKHill-gj2uy
With the partial exception of Morocco, where pogroms were organized on a regional basis, all Js were expelled whilst their homes, businesses and stuff was expropriated. In the case of Iraq, peoples' high school certificates were expropriated. Many arrived in Israel with just their clothes on the back.
Indeed, the Jewish Nakba was worst than than the Arab one because the Jewish minorities never planned to destroy their Arab home state.
Let's add up properties, businesses and lands stolen and determine who owes money to who.
Fair is fair.
I thought that the chosen ones were able to do magic.
There’s no magic here.
The wonderful Jewish people I regularly march with in London explained to me that being the "Chosen people" was a responsibility to be an example to humanity.
If this is supposed to beexemplary to humankind... we re doomed
@@SodaQuasar Perhaps the fundamental dichotomy between Judaism (a principled faith) and Z1o n1sm a political ideology.
@James O'Brien , What does "since the holocaust" have to do with anything other than provoke emotional response to help manufacture consent and feed into the narrative that history started on Oct 7. If we are talking about the conflict in its entirety, then Oct 7 is not even close to being the worst atrocity committed against civilians in history of this conflict, most of which were committed by Israel and is still ongoing. Is it just that only the lives of jewish people matter the most and all what is happening/has been happening to Palestinians don't matter as much?
@fera Sure those massacred will take solace in you putting October 7th into some kind of context. Well done.
@@chatham43 and sure that the tens of thousands butchered in Gaza by the IDF and the millions of people who are made homeless and barely surviving over the past year appreciate you completely ignoring them. Well done.
There’s a school, no it’s not it’s a “command centre” there’s a mosque, no it’s a “command centre” there’s a hospital, no it’s a “command centre” watch out. It seems anything deemed a command centre is fair game to the judge, juror and executioner.
FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸
"Colonialism gets a bad rap"
- Jar of Mayonnaise from Texas
Western leaders remember Oct 7, but no mention of the 4000 victims of Sabra and Shatila massacre or the Nagba, or the numerous other massacres of Palestinians. Peace will only be achieved when the Western world puts the same value on Palestinian lives as it does Jewish lives. Is this such a difficult proposition?.
The only way this can end is with a free Palestinian state.
Obrien has to appease his masters whilst at the same time speak truths. Bring back Sangita.
Mrs Max is starting to get jealous.😊
"Hezbollah had nothing to do with October the 7th" Alright.... quickly glossed over thjat didnt you James
elaborate please
@@bravoalley228 they are all Iranian proxies working in tandem. That's not a secret.
He has a selective memory.
@@Mrsitheguy1 then did you gloss over what Israel has done?
@@bravoalley228 Because James went over that? I was pulling him up on him glossing over something else...
Nonsense 100 hostages against to 40000 bears no comparison where is the proportionality?
11:10 there's no going back to the status quo. The world has woken up. There's no scenario where isrl ends up on top
It's going to end when Netanyahu is in a cell.
Lets say NEVER
Was it sympathy for Hamas or sympathy for the Palestinians ???
How can you support Palestinians right to resist but not support any group enacting the resistance? I support any effort to prevent jenny side.
100,000 dead and youre asking why sympathy. Whats wrong with you
The thing to remember most about 0ct 7th is.....this didn't start on 0ct 7th.
I thought James would be smarter and more informed at this point. It's amusing that he includes "kkhammass" among those people that he thinks might oppose a two state solution. If a two state solution were to be genuinely offered with fair terms, on that very day they would likely cease their resistance. Because for Hamas, every act of resistance is a massive risk. They know they're utterly outmatched. They fight because they have no other choice. Do you honestly think that if the chance for a dignified self-determination was given to them, they would continue fighting an uphill battle?
The only one that has been against the Two State solution, or any solution that involves giving Palestinians their rights have been this Izraeli regime.
So who decides who are or aren’t terrorists?
The international community. Or individuals countries.
You can be a terrorist in country A, B, C and D but not considered a terrorist in countries E,F,G and H.
However if country B prescribes YOU as a terrorist, B can decide to strain bilateral relations with country F.
I live and work in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Hamas and Hezbollah are prescribed by the U.K. government as terrorist organisations.
Any one showing support, aiding or abetting their cause is subject to legal protection and criminal conviction.
I would deport them on the spot.
“Well this war has more killed kids than the other” always so weird
Israel has a policy of deliberately targeting civilians to create fear. The thinking is possibly that non-combatants would respond by restraining resistance forces like Hamas and Hezbollah that the west see as terrorists. Most if the world considers this abhorrent and brlieve Gaza and Lebanon have a right to self defence and consider Israel to be a terror state.
@@jonathanguest5905
Stop being silly !
@@bluestar6879 I think Jonathan pretty much described the Da hi ya doctrine. In my book it's the definition of a "Ter ror State" and a documented policy of that state.
You don't have to condone Hamas to condemn the Israeli atrocities
But that's your preference?
Mehdi Hassan recently debated this with Eylon Levy. Worth a watch if youve not seen it.
Until that moment I thought that Mehdi Hassan was a serious journalist; he may have been so in the last, but now he's an entertainer. No half serious journalist would debate with Levi; the man's a 60kg clown.
@@r.b6170 He always brings recipes. You might not like it, but he evidences his position.
@@r.b6170 how exactly has he become an entertainer?
@@bravoalley228 by debating with clowns like Levi, .....
@@r.b6170 you consider eylon levi a clown, why?
Yes, he was dismissed as the spokesperson for Israel but he was a spokesperson. He had some standing.. He had verbal ability that is valued. He utters his nonsense, which if not countered, can be used to spout zionist talking points.. Mehdi helps to defeat those arguments.. helps to defeat the ideal of the 'Jewish/Israeli Intellectual.
I have been reading that he should get a Nobel peace prize.. That is what I find farcical.
Free Palestine and bring Mileikowsky and his criminal gang to justice.
Will u condem Israel?
Will you condemn Hamas? Or is that uncool?
@@chatham43 yes I do Barbic resistant
Will u and explain why?
For what? Fighting terror?
Between 1948 to 1967 Gaza was ruled by Egypt and the West Bank by Jordan. Please explain why there was no Palestinian uprising against this "occupation " during this time.
How’s it going to end? At the moment with the heat death of the universe.
76 years of atrocities against the Palestinians and VERY few people like you acknowledge that. Hank you
Starmer has said "There is a real danger of regional war in the Middle East", Will someone tell him there already is a regional war in the Middle East.
you are one of the few who always relate to the core issue.
-2 soverine states for two nations.
always use the words palestine and occupation.
thanx.never let go the core issue.
all the rest would be dealt in icc and icj.
again and again .....
. ..and again----2 states for 2 people.
Ah yes, instead of one state where all are treated equal just make 2 states where only one of them is safe for the indigenous people.
Those kids were not bombed by Hezbollah James. But far from me to insert my wisdom, the truth has a way of rearing itself eventually.
It won’t ever end.
not whilst the zios covert the land...
and zios from around the world flock to israel
its not about revenge, it is a land grab, oct 7th was the excuse...and planned by tel aviv for many years, that is why they turned up the pressure on gaza, funded hms, and put sinwar in charge
it will, they cant beat humanity. humanity will win and oppressors will lose.
If things go back to the status quo, I dont see anyone investing in Israel again!! Who would invest billions when this whole thing can just flare up within a year again?? Who would want to do Aliya in Israel again?? I mean some soulless people still would, but I cannot imagine any decent human being going there and taking a house that belonged to Palestinians for yourself..Before, people could ACT like they did not know. But now we all know.... All of this and we have not even touched the problems within Israel amongst its citizens with each other...Call me silly, but I think Israel will have a huge problem coming up.
Since last October 7, 30000 Jews have made aliyah.
Whoops.
@@bluestar6879 Those are the soulless ones I made mention of. Any self respecting human being will be repulsed at the idea,,,
@fannycasteel7118
What you mention is what exactly happens in the case of Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Libya,
Egypt (to a lesser extent) and to a greater degree Iran. Unstable economies and very volatile governments.
Israel is a world leader in medical science, tech innovation, agriculture water reuse, energy efficiency research and environmental science.
It’s a land of miracles.
I don’t know which year you arrived in this wonderful (albeit complicated) world, or where you were educated, but let me tell you that the modern state of Israel has been fighting wars with its neighbours since it’s inception.
Why do you think Saudi Arabia, UAE and Qatar relaxed their relations with Israel?
@@eddiecalderone Israel would be NOTHING without free US tax dollars. You can adopt any poor baby and give it to rich parents , and that child will excel at anything because of the wealth of the family. Acting like Israel is special is just plain delusional. If the US chose Lebanon instead of Israel, the Lebanese would think that they were special too
@@eddiecalderone Do you know why most countries in the ME are economically weak?? Its because of US sanctions to keep them weak in order to keep israel safe and strong. Israel however is toast. I know you dont want to see it and think just because Israel is killing large amounts of people, they are winning. But they are not. Just look closer
Can you imagine how sick you'd have to be to tell someone they're a supporter of people who have taken their child hostage?
Don't start a war and cry when the consequences of starting a war comes home.
This is nonsense
@@SuperGreen36is it ??? Think again
It's coming home on both sides, so can't tell who will be crying 😢
they stared WW2 and are still crying about the consequences.
Israel started it in 1948 when the stole Palestinian land. But you already know that.
It was NOT an attack on the Jewish people. It was an attack on the Israeli people. Israel is the occupier. The religious identity of the occupier is irrelevant. Your choice to frame it as a religious, sectarian motivated attack is disingenuous and part of the problem. Do better please James
Seems like they have got to James.
what do you mean?
The abusive behaviour towards the father of one of the hostages , by Israelis, as he demonstrated in Tel aviv against Netanyahu’s policies, may be due to their ability to come to accept the constant brutal and dehumanising behaviour inflicted on the people of Gaza, particularly Women, children, babies and other vulnerable groups. How could you carry on normally when you know the misery your family members, friends, and others you know may be inflicting brutal pain and horrendous suffering on others . If this is not stopped and soon, many Israelis may turn on each other. In the process of dehumanising the Palestinians and others, some Israelis may become dehumanised themselves?
“The worst atrocity committed against Jewish people since the holocaust” though true, it’s like comparing a tsunami to wave in broadstairs beach. It’s a very emotive phrase and it’s sole purpose has unfortunately been used to justify far worse atrocities since 7.10.
There are far better ways to respect the anniversary of 7.10 than to use emotive Israeli spokesperson phrases used as propaganda to nazify Palestinians. You have shown great empathy to both side, but c’mon, you are better than that O’Brian
I've been saying what you describe for months.
James has now jumped on the Zionist bandwagon..
Is he though? I feel like most people aren't actually spending much time looking at the nuances, and instead just look at numbers and react to them. Most of the comments don't even make any sense, when you look at the activities more objectively.
I feel you acknowledging that it's true really handicaps your point. We shouldn't ignore things that are true just cause they're inconvenient to our argument
@@zlaw691 if you can’t see why using a phrase used by Israeli spokespersons and propagandists of comparing 7.10 (695 civilian deaths) to the holocaust (over 6,000,000 civilian deaths) for the sole purpose of justifying what has and is happening to Palestinians then I really can’t help you. So with that knowledge, this ‘truth’ is awfully stretched, and is pretty obvious why it’s been used in such a dangerous way that for a journalist like O’Brian to parrot is quite irresponsible.
@tariqjoseph3562 I mean the truth can be used for propaganda as well. But if you start telling people to ignore/don't say something you know is true then I think you're doing your own side of the argument a disservice. Regardless of larger context October 7th was a hugely significant day that not unreasonably gets compared to the September 11th attacks. It's an inconvenient truth for those of us, myself included, who feel Israel's government has handled this terribly and horrifically, much like the American government did after September 11. But you're suggestion that people shouldn't acknowledge something that's true because the other side uses that fact as propaganda doesn't seem helpful, in my opinion of course
Can you give me the name of the gentleman who has just spoken. He is totally inspiring.
Michael Jackson
really? Are you a bot or you cannot read properly?
Young people stating their sympathy for Hamas probably has something to do with the horrific news coming from Gaza.
Terrorists are terrorists. Doesn't get more simple than that. Maybe we should all do our research on History to find out where the true hate started and where we are today
This is a channel from Britain. Everyone knows when the true hate started. Britain caused it with the Belfour Declaration. Plenty of pre-Israel Palestinian Jews alive to testify to that.
@@DrVictorVasconcelosnow its Britain's Fault? ok hater 🥱
elaborate please
Neither israel nor the palestinians want a 2 state solution. Thats the reason why ths conflict wont end anytime soon.
Utter nonsense.. 12 members of the Arab league guaranteed Israeli security if they gave Palestinians a state.. Israel doesn’t want to..
I think the Palestinian people would welcome a state of their own????
You're spot on for Israelis. Clearly you haven't been talking to Palestinians. They want food, water, a sewage system. They want their schools and universities back. They don't have the luxury to reject the existence of Israel.
What are you talking about? Netanyahu has clearly stated he doesn’t want a two state solution! Not one Palestinian has said that!
People who think Palestinians want a state in any form of Isreal state is delusional
They just have to listen to the Palestinians. They say all the land is theirs
Why do Israelis treat even their own countrymen so bad? That person has a daughter held hostage. He can take whatever position hebwants
Other parents of hostages take the opposite position. But the leftist OBrien omits that info on this program.
Not in lock step with Netanyahu. They have to stop.
Meanwhile 3 thousand miles away in our country. Englands population density is an NHS collapsing 438/km🤢. Three times higher than China.
this mans math is horrible
elaborate please
Defending the big lie breeds evil
A simple question to solve all the dilemmas related to the conflict in Gaza. Ready, Mr O'Brien?
During WW2, the British and American air forces bombed Dresden. Tens of thousands of civilians died. Who was to blame? The Nazis or the Allies? If you reply, the Nazis, then Hamas is to blame.
who do you blame?
@angusmcfarlane1225
The number of times the Luftwaffe bombed cities, towns and villages were thousands of innocent civilians died are too many to mention. Never mind the v1 and V2 bombs….
Why should anyone care about Dresden?
@@eddiecalderonethat was WW2 this is quite quite different. And you know it.
@@Mogorman87
I know. I am not the one who is trying to make the analogy between the Second World War and the conflict in the Middle East.
@@eddiecalderone ah ok sorry bud thought you did. Must have meant it for Angus.
You were all to eager to support the Isreal narrative, you outsourced your thinking at the time. Most of us knew, even today some isolate this to Netanyahu. It’s the entire state of Isreal including most of its people and their enablers the US and UK Israel that enable this. This conflict did not start on 7 Oct.
The French freedom fighters were called the resistance in ww2 because they fought the invaders of their own country. Why were the Palestinians not afforded the same title for a similar cause ????
The Palestinians had billions to improve their area. They spent it on rockets and tunnels. How can you negotiate with people like that?
“The fault is on both sides” from the ‘Yes Prime Minister’ TV series shown 1986. Something’s just won’t change. This debate will go on for a 1000+ years.
Hanibal directive
Hamas using meat shields
@@talksmoke1190 every accusation is a confession, release the sausages, because the iof cooked them. With the hanibal directive
@@SONofTHC when you point the finger there are three pointing back at you. Kmass has done in 17k of its military and 23k citizens as meat shields
@@SONofTHC when you point the finger 3 are pointing back. 17k are soilders and kmass used 23k a shields
@@talksmoke1190 nah and there's no kkkh in hamas.
I dont know , maybe 75 years of brutal oppression and humiliation, has something to do with it 🤔
Conflating the October 7 attacks with the Holocaust is highly problematic. It devalues the Holocaust while justifying the carnage unleashed on the Palestinians in Gaza (and the West Bank) and on the Lebanese. It also devalues Palestinian lives who in terms of the size of the attack have suffered exponentially more. Before October 7th 96% of all deaths in this conflict were Palestinian. That bizarre percentage has only gone up.
I feel that these discussions about 'how this is going to end' are highly disingenuous. The ICJ has ruled that the decades long Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories, as the apartheid and the settlements are illegal. Should O'Brien and the bothsides centrist crowd truly care about international law then they would push Israel and western governments to follow the ICJ's recommendations. That also includes the current war of annihilation and hunger which the ICJ has also ruled that Israel should stop.
Was the Holocaust an attack on military bases with a combatant to civilian ratio of 1:1.4 in one day ending in a battle? Are they really comparable in any way? Can we drop the Holocaust comparison already?
What a dreadful mistake for Obrien to do this on an anniversary of mass killings. It's akin to him describing the bombing of Dresden ,or the innocents killed during the breaching of the Mona Dam on Armistice Day. shame on you O brien for doing this, you could of done this programme on any other day rather than than 7/10.
How many lives would be saved if Arab Muslim countries opened their borders for Palestinians. Europe did for Ukrainians. Nobody talks about Egypt closing its border to Palestinians.
Lessons in Medieval history might just make these young 18 24 year olds exactly what they are sympathetic with
You need to know exactly how the question was posed and the context.
3:50 Hezbollah had nothing to do with October 7th?
Yeah, and Germany had nothing do do with the Attack on Pearl Harbor on 7th December 1941, but The USA still went to war with them as well as Japan...
What a moronic comment.
Hostages dying at the hands of panicking terrosists ??? Ummm what ??? You mean terrosists that are panicking that maybe the people they took captive might be freed ?? Poor panicky terrorists that must be a very difficult emotional ordeal to navigate, I can’t imagine how they get thru that.