Horrifyingly Average - The Haunting of Bly Manor

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  • So I watched The Haunting of Bly Manor and... it wasn't what I'd hoped for. Join me as I break down the spiritual sequel to The Haunting of Hill House.

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  • @TheCriticalDrinker
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    • @a.r.hollowayauthor7210
      @a.r.hollowayauthor7210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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  • @D2attemp
    @D2attemp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2051

    Every time they said Lady of the Lake all I could think was: Strange Woman lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government

    • @eddiebruv
      @eddiebruv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      “Stop the oppression”!

    • @johnprice5784
      @johnprice5784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      @@eddiebruv" Oh I'm being repressed"

    • @marcusgaunt8222
      @marcusgaunt8222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Me too!

    • @johnemac9621
      @johnemac9621 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      That one short piece of Python was better than this entire series.

    • @peterson88keyz
      @peterson88keyz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      "I didn't know you were called Dennis"

  • @Mumblix
    @Mumblix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +386

    "They sleepwalk and change personalities by the minute and stare at things that aren't there."
    They're cats?

    • @Soridan
      @Soridan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @Emiscary1 they crash into things often enough for me to believe that.

    • @demonkingbadger6689
      @demonkingbadger6689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Cats dont change personalities, they are always indifferent

    • @L_ZeD_117
      @L_ZeD_117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@demonkingbadger6689 I dunno, have you ever tried to per a cat for 3 seconds and he's all affectionate and purring, then at 3,01 seconds (mileage may vary from cat to cat) he's biting and scratching you like he wants to murder you?

    • @steveperks602
      @steveperks602 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@L_ZeD_117 Ah, so you've met my girlfriend's cat too?

    • @kingofnothing8644
      @kingofnothing8644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My cat sleepwalks!

  • @LordSpink
    @LordSpink 3 ปีที่แล้ว +442

    This is bang on! The 1st was brilliant, the 2nd....well....I wish they'd played the last 5 minutes of the last episode in the beginning episode: "this is not a horror story, it's a love story".....would have saved me a bunch of time.

    • @jamiekarila3167
      @jamiekarila3167 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Yup. I was a little pissed at that. I had such a hard time getting thru the last two episodes. And she walked, and she slept, and she walked, and she slept.

    • @eddielombardo
      @eddielombardo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sounds like someone was inspired by Crimson Peak.

    • @Lazarus178
      @Lazarus178 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      That's something I really appreciated about Crimson Peak: in like the first or second scene we get Edith telling her publisher "It isn't a ghost story; it's a story with ghosts in it--they're more like a metaphor for the past," and you know immediately to reset your expectations. And then that ended up still being plenty creepy and unsettling. Bly Manor by contrast was such a bait and switch.

    • @osc-oldschoolclips5204
      @osc-oldschoolclips5204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah I like romance. I hope everyone does like at least some elements about romances, but yes I did expect something totally different before watching this show. I was disappointed

    • @pete3011
      @pete3011 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought the first one sucked, I couldnt have cared less about that moronic family. I'm surprised to see it getting praise around here. Both eventually turned into "well, I hope a few of these idiots die and I get to watch it" deals. I wouldn't have spent the time on this one if I'd know they were by the same people.

  • @kbubblingtime
    @kbubblingtime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    The scariest thing about bly manor was how long I spent on each episode trying to find all the background ghosts.

  • @DM-pu5yu
    @DM-pu5yu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +707

    Wait, a Netflix show with lesbians in it?!?
    Imagine my shock

    • @lewecusgame7598
      @lewecusgame7598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wow

    • @u4yk
      @u4yk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I had my money on gay male.

    • @pizzabinge
      @pizzabinge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +115

      The gays are so 2010. I was expecting a pink haired non-binary troll and a trans kid.

    • @chadpowell1832
      @chadpowell1832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      When a characters underdeveloped
      Say it with me guys
      “Make then gay!”

    • @ashdam9561
      @ashdam9561 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      In defense of the show a little bit here, the gay thing was interchangeable, they almost had Oliver Jackson Cohen (peter quint) play the gardener, but they changed it last minute because it would be too weird considering they played twins last season, at least that's what's been reported

  • @MicahDarkFantasy
    @MicahDarkFantasy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +379

    Oooh, what’s next? A huge debate with MauLer? Because he seems to REALLY love this!

    • @kossettereaditte7552
      @kossettereaditte7552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      That's be a good debate

    • @kossettereaditte7552
      @kossettereaditte7552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      They're friends arent they?

    • @yukothefantasmknight3183
      @yukothefantasmknight3183 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Oh, he DOES love this! On Twitter he says Mike Flanagan made a... “beautifully haunting masterpiece.”

    • @bugthesda3480
      @bugthesda3480 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@kossettereaditte7552 they won't be after this ha ha

    • @Unformed8
      @Unformed8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That is what I was expecting, Mooper will definitely have a word to put in on this conversation

  • @alphacause
    @alphacause 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    The Haunting of Bly Manor is what a haunted house series would look like if it was written by Nicholas Sparks.

    • @khfan4life365
      @khfan4life365 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nicholas Sparks is a better writer than the writer of this tripe.

    • @JordanKane97
      @JordanKane97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It was written by Laurie Penny, she’s a lunatic

  • @darrellcovello7917
    @darrellcovello7917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    "The first season was okay, but there were too many white people."
    -- Every critic, probably

    • @poppag8281
      @poppag8281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@geoffok uhhhh no one said that

  • @ocaptainnc
    @ocaptainnc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +350

    I was expecting “man with glowing eyes” to be described as “6 foot Jawa” 😂

    • @johnsnow04
      @johnsnow04 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Also there is a missed opportunity about making E;R joke there.

    • @jignaciovitale3460
      @jignaciovitale3460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Robert Smith in the "boys don't cry" videoclip.

    • @Mansini77
      @Mansini77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It was such a letdown when Dani threw his glasses into the fire, and he was no more. Umm...okay.

    • @michaelpipkin9942
      @michaelpipkin9942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ta' may-teeeeeee. I found it difficult to spell the sound that they make.

    • @AdityaSingh-lp5rp
      @AdityaSingh-lp5rp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      First thing I saw

  • @Snakedude4life
    @Snakedude4life 3 ปีที่แล้ว +507

    They give female characters male sounding names so they can set up this at some point:
    “Yes, I am [profession\Higher level job position].”
    “Oh I was expecting a man.”
    “OOH?! Because I’m a WHAMYN?!”
    “No, because of the male sounding name.”
    Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
    Gib me, clout.
    🐍
    💀 no step on SNEK! 🇺🇸🇭🇰

    • @nautdead3197
      @nautdead3197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      /applauds wokeness
      So stunning so brave

    • @venator0405
      @venator0405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Your snake won't save you when your foe will step on it regardless.

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Yes, it's SUCH an overdone cliché by this point, particularly if their names are Alex, Sam, Mike, Jack, or Nick! 🙄

    • @canaldecasta
      @canaldecasta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      When i was playing Death Stranding, at the beginning of the game they talk about "The president" and a few minutes in theres this "-her?+Yes, the first female president" Like it was some sort of boom gotcha.
      Too bad i had spanish subtitles on, and it show "presidenta" at first.
      Yep, i rolled my eyes.

    • @Snakedude4life
      @Snakedude4life 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@canaldecasta
      I’m going to miss that.
      In the future, you know they’re going to push all gendered languages to be “gender neutral.”

  • @RegisTraiter
    @RegisTraiter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    "If you get infected with tuberculosis you can just choose not to die."
    Arthur Morgan: AM I A JOKE TO YOU?!!

    • @176bammm
      @176bammm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No! But you'll spread it around worse than COVID19...T/B is highly contagious...If you work in a Hospital setting, all staff are tested like every Quarter, or if you breached a isolation room quarantine without proper PPE....

    • @haydeng3316
      @haydeng3316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      to be fair, the lady of the lake laid in bed all day. Arthur was essentially an outlaw to the end, probably resting less than he was before his diagnosis once everything went tits up.

    • @khfan4life365
      @khfan4life365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      From what I’ve read about pre-antibiotics tuberculosis, 25% of people who got it would go into remission and then relapse and die, but we never saw Viola ever go into remission. When you had TB in those days, you couldn’t just choose not to die. You either got the illness and died or got the illness, went into remission, relapsed, and then died.

    • @leonvnex
      @leonvnex 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      F

    • @frde2190
      @frde2190 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was in like 1899 so they couldn’t have fixed it probably

  • @MM-xn6tn
    @MM-xn6tn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    "If I went around telling people I was an emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away."
    - Dennis the mud peasant, 1975

  • @tanisdevelopment
    @tanisdevelopment 3 ปีที่แล้ว +266

    Wasn't the replacement for John Connor in Terminator: Fark Dat also called Dani?

    • @rooksclown316
      @rooksclown316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think she was

    • @michaelhansen8959
      @michaelhansen8959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Haha, you're right.
      Enough dani's
      Go away now!

    • @salernolake
      @salernolake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@michaelhansen8959 ... and don't forget Daenerys (a.k.a. "Dani") Targaryen !!! 😁

    • @michaelhansen8959
      @michaelhansen8959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@salernolake go away!!! Haha

    • @tastycookiechip
      @tastycookiechip 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @LTNetjak Yeah but at least Midsommar was great

  • @javiecija96
    @javiecija96 3 ปีที่แล้ว +247

    I would really like to hear Tatiana's opinion on film criticism.

    • @clevelandbrown4571
      @clevelandbrown4571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      While she's doing a lap dance

    • @6ixlxrd
      @6ixlxrd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I'd love to hear her 9 hour opinion on why objectifying women is wrong. Although I'd last on 3.
      Mins.

    • @greatclubsandwich5612
      @greatclubsandwich5612 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      For 50 bucks you can...

    • @senorpepper3405
      @senorpepper3405 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not me. I wanna see some crevasses.

  • @razrentals8897
    @razrentals8897 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    How’d the lady in the lake kill the two dudes within seconds of grabbing them by the throat, but she managed to carry the main character around for a few minutes and she just got up like nothing happened?

    • @6699faisal
      @6699faisal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly, this scene basically ruined it for.

    • @andrewhawking1261
      @andrewhawking1261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's coz the main character got whamen's power! Didn't you go to your patricrachy seminar lately?

    • @killjoy117007
      @killjoy117007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@andrewhawking1261 its just plot armor..

    • @poslednisoud
      @poslednisoud 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It takes place back in the day where lesbians had immunity to ghost damage so she just got stun locked. They fixed that in later editions.

    • @idonhaveanyideawhattocallm1472
      @idonhaveanyideawhattocallm1472 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Must've been skipping hand day at the gym

  • @efe_aydal
    @efe_aydal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    U forgot Dani from Terminator Dark Fate. Must be the name of an important person in the secret feminist cult.

    • @kelcastle7645
      @kelcastle7645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I came here to say the same!! They like the name Dani because:
      -" They stand and FIGHT!!!!!" And don't miss a watermelon!

    • @LordHoth_09
      @LordHoth_09 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The nickname of their dragon queen

    • @kylevernon
      @kylevernon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because it’s the most Butch Lesbian name that’s why.

    • @TheFourthWinchester
      @TheFourthWinchester 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They all wanna piggyback on the strongest and best female character of the decade - Daenerys Targaryen aka Dani.

  • @professionalspecialist5780
    @professionalspecialist5780 3 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    The man with the glowing eyes is clearly E;R
    Oh no! I referred to He Who Shall Not Be Named

    • @MirandaSinistra
      @MirandaSinistra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Congrats you're now a nazi.

    • @silverfox8209
      @silverfox8209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@MirandaSinistra You didn't want it, you didn't ask for it...

    • @DeusExMau5
      @DeusExMau5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Heresy

    • @jebalitabb8228
      @jebalitabb8228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      E;R has never said anything wrong, all of his statements are completely true

    • @amanibob1416
      @amanibob1416 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Ma-Rey Suuuuuueeeee!"
      Glowee Mceyee

  • @MarcAlcatraz
    @MarcAlcatraz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +202

    Mark my words, the Haunting of series is going to go the way of Stranger Things, where everyone loves the first season then it tries to capture the same magic over and over until the third season where no one gives a crap anymore

    • @txbuzzkill6276
      @txbuzzkill6276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @Mr. Censored No... it's ruined.

    • @txbuzzkill6276
      @txbuzzkill6276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @Mr. Censored The third season WAS unbearable to watch.

    • @txbuzzkill6276
      @txbuzzkill6276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Mr. Censored I don't think I got to the lesbian girl, I take it it's the one that worked with him? I only know about her from memes. I tolerated the second season, but it was a chore to get through. I think I made it [struggled] through 3 episodes of season 3. I did really like season one. If you're a fanboy... you're a fanboy, I won't be watching season four.

    • @txbuzzkill6276
      @txbuzzkill6276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Mr. Censored You're the one that stated it's become political trash, as soon as you bring sexual preference to light , it becomes political trash. I didn't see the lesbian part of the show... you did. Sorry to trigger you... but that's life in the real world.

    • @tahunuva4254
      @tahunuva4254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Same with the umbrella academy. :( Great first season, mediocre to poor second season. If it's as painfully bad as stranger things haz become, season 3 will be worth a skip.

  • @ericdodson2644
    @ericdodson2644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    Maybe they should have called it, "The Haunting of Blah Manor."

  • @HasanibnSabah
    @HasanibnSabah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    #stunning #brave casting decisions.
    Who knew rural 1980s England was so...vibrant!?

  • @Kahnovitch
    @Kahnovitch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +475

    Danny looks like Brie Larson, but with more ham and less plank.

    • @popeurbainii7807
      @popeurbainii7807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      My thoughts exactly

    • @047Kenny
      @047Kenny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Lmfaoo

    • @dhrgkbqxtjr2743
      @dhrgkbqxtjr2743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      If you guys don't know this actress, you need to start watching "YOU" on Netflix starring Penn Badgley. She's in the second season and I love her. Trust me, you will thank me. Addictive series.

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I agree, Victoria Pedretti DOES look a lot like Larson, especially with blonde hair. However, she's a talented actress in her own right, and definitely a star on the rise! 🌟😍

    • @ElizabethD33
      @ElizabethD33 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Well, she's nowhere as mean spirited as Larson and that's a plus

  • @Sir-Raph
    @Sir-Raph 3 ปีที่แล้ว +250

    Bly feels more like a market tested project that tried to appeal to a wider audience by being a hybrid of genres.
    It was fun looking for the secret ghosts hidden in every other scene; like some kind of "Where's Waldo" Bly edition...
    but one single episode of Hill House had more genuine scares in it than an entire season of Bly.

    • @thathandsomedevil0828
      @thathandsomedevil0828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The opening sequence of the first season of american horror story freaked me out more than most horror shows today.

    • @deadlyninja112
      @deadlyninja112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Shitty ass forced shoe horned useless love story plots

    • @chadpowell1832
      @chadpowell1832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@deadlyninja112 yes! The love story was so boring and took away from the horror

    • @Archonsx
      @Archonsx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not to mention better writing and better characters that bind together to create a masterpiece of a plot, bly manor is complete trash compared to first season.

    • @ethandalton6480
      @ethandalton6480 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@deadlyninja112 if you'd actually watched the show, you'd know it wasn't shoe horned in

  • @ProgrammedForDamage
    @ProgrammedForDamage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I said to my wife that this series is more a lengthy meditation on love and loss than the supernatural thriller we were led to believe.

  • @marcinniedzielski6483
    @marcinniedzielski6483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "9 hour discussion about the merits of objectivity in film criticism" sounds like an afternoon with Mauler

  • @BojangleBaggins
    @BojangleBaggins 3 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    Gotta give it to E;R for that standout performance! Can’t wait to see what he does next.

    • @Mj0Skyver
      @Mj0Skyver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      When I first saw the mirror ghost in episode 1, I immediately thought, "Wait, did E;R just make cameos on this show?" Glad to know I'm not the only one to notice E;R's "involvement," haha.

    • @p0rq
      @p0rq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mj0Skyver Haha same

    • @oneofyus3799
      @oneofyus3799 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      When he got isekaied by a bus I died laughing.

    • @nelsonthegentleman2756
      @nelsonthegentleman2756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I was waiting for his ghost to yell "MAAA REEEEEY SUUUUUUUUUUUUUE!"

    • @icycrusader1947
      @icycrusader1947 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Someone's gotta tear down awful lesbian characters and he's willing to do it.

  • @jchan2299
    @jchan2299 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I'm actually watching Hill House now after Bly Manor. Night and day. Hill House is much more creepier and scary.
    Right on the nose about why Bly Manor isn't as good.

  • @defeqel6537
    @defeqel6537 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    "Apparently women had it kind of tough in the 17th century"
    Nah, everyone had it tough, while every movie and series likes to focus on women (especially high born ones) and it gets annoying, since usually the message is "see how abused women were / are, pity us / give us more power", while sexism affected everyone.

    • @khfan4life365
      @khfan4life365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Right? They act like women were the only ones forced into convenient marriages and were mistreated. Men were also forced to marry as well to claim their inheritances (if they had any). Men were also mistreated because they were seen as expendable and killed in wars and the disasters that ruled “women and children first”.

    • @Loopisus
      @Loopisus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok buddy

    • @transmeeshax6872
      @transmeeshax6872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yep. People don’t pay attention to stuff like that. It’s weird. It definitely wasn’t any funner to be a dude back in the day. The only people that “male privilege” applied to, if at all, were the uppermost crust of society.

    • @KingOhmni
      @KingOhmni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Woman had homes to run and children to birth. Men had grueling work hour and the distinct chance of being drafted every generation or two. Basically thank fuck we are alive now, both men and women, and not but a mere 75 years ago.

  • @kd9749
    @kd9749 3 ปีที่แล้ว +257

    So basically I continue to miss nothing of value after I cancelled Netflix. Good to know.

    • @Weightlimit
      @Weightlimit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Constantly proving that I’m saving money by not having Netflix. Thanks Drinker!

    • @Dr._Atom
      @Dr._Atom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I triple dare you: cancel hollywood a whole

    • @TheTytoGaurdian
      @TheTytoGaurdian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Dr._Atom Covid already did lol

    • @DiggitySlice
      @DiggitySlice 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheTytoGaurdian nope, they'll use Covid to make people rely on them more like all of the left has

    • @DiggitySlice
      @DiggitySlice 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Don't support services that don't allow you to own the media you purchase

  • @ScottDeSalvo
    @ScottDeSalvo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +318

    Every female in movies today has a male name. It isn't an accident.

    • @instantkarma1636
      @instantkarma1636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      It's Dani, short for Danielle.

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      It's usually for the inevitable shock of the presumably male character being revealed to be female, as shown with Jamie. 😁

    • @allamericanslacker2378
      @allamericanslacker2378 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I was going to make this comment and saw yours.

    • @allamericanslacker2378
      @allamericanslacker2378 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Arion Noble wtf makes you think I'm a feminist?

    • @MirandaSinistra
      @MirandaSinistra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Michael Burnham. I hate this trend.

  • @williamdonlon6390
    @williamdonlon6390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    “You know what the sequel needs? More moody characters. The edgier, more pessimistic the better.” - Netflix

  • @AscendantCorn
    @AscendantCorn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    The writers basically said “what if we take The Turn of the Screw and make it a lesbian love story?”

    • @poppag8281
      @poppag8281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      how is that bad?

    • @gailism
      @gailism 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol what's wrong with that

    • @deespaeth8180
      @deespaeth8180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@poppag8281 the problem is I was expecting A scary ghost story. The haunting of bly manner felt like bait and switch. I'm expecting something more similar to the work of Henry James. After all, the names, places, and descriptions were taken from the book. They could have just changed the names, locations, and descriptions and written an original story. The characters in the series had little in common with the characters in the novel. I was 😞 disappointed. However, I did enjoy the characterization of the housekeeper, cook, gardener and au pair..... I just wish they'd left out the Henry James aspects and written an original series. The mixing of creepy ghost story and lesbian love story didn't mix well for me. It felt like the writer couldn't make up his mind what he wanted to write about.

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +233

    I agree with the Drinker's critique. Hill House was scarier, and more family focused, making the chills effective. Bly Manor WAS decent, but more centred around romance, lacked any powerful chills, and seemed to take FOREVER to wrap. 😁

    • @ElizabethD33
      @ElizabethD33 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yeah, I came to bly house to be scared not to watch spooky maury povich

    • @user-mb9nm7bq5e
      @user-mb9nm7bq5e 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bly manor was definetly a love story more than a ghost story

    • @chrisscott3071
      @chrisscott3071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not even just that but nothing is explained till the last episode and the explanation felt hollow.

    • @ElizabethD33
      @ElizabethD33 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @xr7fan i think that it should have had a little more time in the writing room. Don't get me wrong, it has its strengths and does them well, just not the scares. It all felt a little too flat for my tastes.

    • @chrisscott3071
      @chrisscott3071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Emiscary1 it pretty much is but it was fairly weak. Honestly the whole season was a let down

  • @kevinoneil5120
    @kevinoneil5120 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    And here I thought the next Drinker vid would be addressing the "stunningly diverse" actress chosen to try and keep the CW's Batwoman alive.
    ...the article that I saw announcing the change actually used the word "stunning."

    • @EndOfSmallSanctuary97
      @EndOfSmallSanctuary97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @Joe Blow To be honest, this honestly doesn’t seem like it’d be that far-fetched at this point. Which is horrifying.

    • @andrewbarge3461
      @andrewbarge3461 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is clearly some usage of the word stunning I was previously unaware of

    • @chadpowell1832
      @chadpowell1832 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Emiscary1 “has the meaning of the word stunning changed in the last 100 years ?”
      - an edited avatar quote

  • @rustyshackleford17
    @rustyshackleford17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    That whole "this wasn't a haunting story, it was a love story" was a bit of a testicle twister at the end of this mediocre season. At first I thought it was them trying to be poignant, but I think it was the writers way of telling you they just hijacked your show and you just watched them shit all over it.
    It baffled me that the a show would take such a stark turn from themes.

    • @claudeagle271
      @claudeagle271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That line it sounds like an excuse for why the show was so shitty.

    • @rustyshackleford17
      @rustyshackleford17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@claudeagle271Who the hell knows. Could be some asshole trying to save face when they realized it sucked...or some artistic hack trying to be deep

    • @notatroll9667
      @notatroll9667 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How does it remotely hijack the show or change anything about it ?

  • @babybeau8888
    @babybeau8888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So happy to see this review. Hill house was one of my favourite series, got through 3 episodes of bly manor and couldn't bare to watch any more. Also this channel takes movie/series reviews to a whole other level,

  • @IronDragon-2143
    @IronDragon-2143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +238

    Meh is how I feel about almost everything on Netflix.

    • @jon4715
      @jon4715 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      It's all ideological trash. At least the second season of every series turns it up to 11.

    • @stevenewby9346
      @stevenewby9346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yep

    • @g4sper112
      @g4sper112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@jon4715 exactly. I was so excited for the second season of The Alienist, but the 1rst episode errase any kind of interest I had for that show. And it's a pattern with almost every series; Mindhunter, Stranger Things, Dark S3, The Witcher is probably on the same path... they either have terrible writing or become overloaded with pure ideological propaganda. Or both.

    • @jon4715
      @jon4715 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@g4sper112 I think it's a conscious decision to make a pretty clean and entertaining first season, and then turn the second season into propaganda against the established audience. We've seen it happen dozens of times.

    • @lewecusgame7598
      @lewecusgame7598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Avatar is good. Of course, it wasn’t made by Netflix, nor is it recent. Nothing recent is as good as avatar is.

  • @johnnynguyen9240
    @johnnynguyen9240 3 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    I’ll say I agree with Critical Drinker. I lost interest after the first 5 episodes.

    • @I_Cunt_Spell
      @I_Cunt_Spell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I never had any interest to begin with.

    • @Sylvine
      @Sylvine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Same here. Watched it till the end, but definitely with recceding interest.
      I think the problem with that one was namedropped by Flora in the last episode: "This wasn't a ghost story... it's a love story." And nothing wrong with a love story, but I didn't click on The HAUNTING of Bly Manor to watch a love drama.

    • @Cynner1111
      @Cynner1111 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @LTNetjak perfect summary

    • @mdgeist2373
      @mdgeist2373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Funny I quit the same Time.
      Still hope after the first two Episodes its getting better.
      But nope.

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fair play to you. I fell asleep the very first time I tried to watch it. The second time, I got through it in three sittings, but even then, it seemed to take FOREVER to actually end! 🙄

  • @robsan52
    @robsan52 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Haunting (63' NOT 99'!) was scarefying when it came out. There were no ghosts or monsters just poltergiests or implied 'things' in the house. The scene where the medium is looking at the weird wallpaper while she thinks the other woman is holding her hand creeped the bejesus out of me when I was young in the age of dinosaurs.

  • @toddlee2571
    @toddlee2571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It was a ghost story (not a scary ghost story) for people who don't really like feeling scared. It's like putting together a jigsaw puzzle because you hoped for a sense of accomplishment or epiphany, and then realized why you don't like putting together jigsaw puzzles.

  • @carissaluttonmovietalk
    @carissaluttonmovietalk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Finally, someone who isn't raving about it.

  • @jacotromp59581
    @jacotromp59581 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Hill House is Flanagans masterpiece. Bly manor is his first snooze fest. You can truly feel studio influences on this season.

    • @kendrake3993
      @kendrake3993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It’s the woke people in black. “Ooh something is successful?? Time to inject woke politics!!”

    • @kendrake3993
      @kendrake3993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jacotromp59581 wearing black! Not black people. Joke went way over your head

    • @jameshammer8131
      @jameshammer8131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was a hardly snooze fest. Even the drinker did not think it was that bad.

    • @wilpuriarts5895
      @wilpuriarts5895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Maybe not snooze fest, but incredibly frustrating. The good parts were sprinkled very far apart.

    • @jacotromp59581
      @jacotromp59581 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wilpuriarts5895 one thing I will give this season is the acting, wow, it's great. Especially from the cleaning lady (don't know her name), but she is amazing

  • @jeremybrunk9576
    @jeremybrunk9576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for ripping this apart. I feel like I got something back from the hours I wasted on this show.

    • @poppag8281
      @poppag8281 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought it was good

  • @JackoBanon1
    @JackoBanon1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The first 4 episodes were great!
    Really creepy and scary. Exactly what I expected.
    Starting with episode 5 the show took a big turn and switched into a romantic drama with some horror elements while explaining the backstory of the manor instead.
    And then the whole build up basically fell apart and the tension was gone because everything that happened was explained and explained again and again until the mystery was gone.

  • @thepaladinauthoryoutube
    @thepaladinauthoryoutube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    I'm starting to notice Drinker has several versions of "Go Away Now" for his reviewer persona's outro and it works for each context.
    When it's a bad film either by sheer lack of craft or hubris and arrogance, it's spiteful and clearly more directed at the film than us. But he's saying it to us like "don't bother giving this shite any more of our time."
    When the media is middling or could have been good, it's more like he went into aramble thay revealed his deeper more intellectual side, and then wakes up as if to say "well what do you want? You heard my two cents. Get outta here."
    When it carries heavy or tragic context or subject matter, it's like the drunken character went into a long speech revealing his deeper more sensitive side because of the drink, and he realizes it too late and says it like "just leave it and me alone to forget." Like a guy who tells an estranged family member that he really does care when his guard is down.
    And when the media is good or genuinely interesting, it's more playful, sarcastic and with a smile like "all right you lot, go and enjoy ourselves now."
    Unexpected depth from a perhaps unexpected source...or perhaps not so unexpected. Hehheh thanks for reading. GO AWAY NOW!

  • @Para2normal
    @Para2normal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    So, Bly Manor was supposed to be a retelling of The Turn of the Screw, filmed in 1963 as "The Innocents" one of the most genuinely frightening films I have ever seen. Oh Dear!

    • @KaNoMikoProductions
      @KaNoMikoProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I don't think it was "supposed" to be anything of the sort. It just took inspiration from it.

    • @johnnyappleseed4117
      @johnnyappleseed4117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      the creator actually mentioned this. he said that he loved the innocents so much that he didn’t want to “remake” the turn of the screws because it would inevitably be worse. that’s why he came up with a mostly new concept. it doesn’t really follow the plot of the tun of the screw so much.

    • @semantics99
      @semantics99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Innocents is brilliant. Please do a review of that. This is wretched boring schlock stretched waaaayyy too thin, a lot like The Outsider, Escape from Dannemora (which would have been great if it were only the last hour as a film).
      It’s really disappointing that people making this dreck have to even link it to a classic film (they used the creepy music). If it’s basically barely inspired by the original, change the names to protect the innocent.

  • @spunkush
    @spunkush 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The reason they chose kids instead of adults, is because the person needs to accept the possession. Kids are easier to manipulate than adults.

  • @yukitakahashi5739
    @yukitakahashi5739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The Haunting of Bly Manor spared no expenses, even working in a cameo of E;R at 1:41! Most impressive.

  • @adamheywood113
    @adamheywood113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I just finished it a couple days ago. Definitely a step down from Hill House for me. Not scary enough and too predictable. I couldn't really fault the acting and there were some surprises but most of the time I felt like I was waiting for it to kick off and it just... didn't.

  • @Tony-dh7mz
    @Tony-dh7mz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I was very impressed at Henry Thomas's acting (The kid from E.T)
    he completely inhabited the role of an English man, right down to the micro body language,
    I didn't know he had the chops, great job,
    The rest of it meh...got bored after the third ep,

    • @khfan4life365
      @khfan4life365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He was amazing in Hill House as well.

    • @drlee2
      @drlee2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Henry Thomas was exceptional in this. I think he got overlooked because his character wasn't in it as much as the other main characters, but he gave one of the best performances of the season.

    • @Tony-dh7mz
      @Tony-dh7mz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drlee2 agreed,

  • @miks301
    @miks301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "She sleeps. She wakes. She walks." Reminded me just how bad it looks when the directions do Tell instead of Show.

  • @onastick2411
    @onastick2411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I thought "The Haunting of Hill House", was good up to the final episode. Then, as usual, the payoff didn't work, and was a bit of a disappointment. After all the scares and malevolence over the season, it tried to make the house seem almost benign in its intentions.
    It was incongruous to everything that had gone before, and left one feeling deflated.
    Note to scriptwriter, write the resolution first, then write credible events leading up to it.
    Anyone can set up something surreal and mysterious, it's far harder (evidently), to then write a realistic payoff.

    • @erwinekkel9676
      @erwinekkel9676 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The payoff for bly was better. But both could have used a more classic horror ending.

  • @hahahah9527
    @hahahah9527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    The episode about strong female ghost fighting the patriarchy broke me. After that i couldn't care anymore. The last episode made me laugh.

    • @vhampyre01
      @vhampyre01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yep, that was the point at which I checked out as well. I don't think I even watched the last fifteen minutes of the series... Didn't care.

    • @y.a.pthered
      @y.a.pthered 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hang on... How the hell did you read that from that episode😂her attitude is contextually accurate to the times it's set in

    • @theblackflame4002
      @theblackflame4002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      That didn't bother me because back then there was a patriarchy to fight, so it worked for the time frame. Destroying the patriarchy now in this day and age is the same as the SJW's acting like black people are "oppressed' in this day and age.

    • @y.a.pthered
      @y.a.pthered 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theblackflame4002 wow ur fun at parties

    • @shaneyy__
      @shaneyy__ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@y.a.pthered didn’t he explain your point in further detail? 😶

  • @DocX1000
    @DocX1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    The Drinker nails it again.
    I just finished the series and I came away sadder and more depressed at the show's message than I did frightened.
    It's more of a story about love loss and betrayal than spooks and one of the characters says as much at the end.

    • @blakasmurf
      @blakasmurf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hold on... does that mean it wasn't a horror then???? Look up the genre Gothic Romance... Bly is not a horror

    • @NRSGuardian
      @NRSGuardian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@blakasmurf The Gothic Romance genre encompasses a wide range of stories, Frankenstein and Castle of Otranto are Gothic Romances that do contain horror, whereas more recent Gothic Romances tend to merely be Romance novels with a Gothic setting. Considering, The Haunting of Hill House was more of a horror story it makes sense that many people would assume that Bly Manor would be more toward the earlier style Gothic Romances than the later style.

  • @Vok250
    @Vok250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The biggest crime was the complete lack of payoff at the end of the season. Like the fiance ghost just kind of left? Because she drunkenly yelled at him? Wut?

  • @Anchor-Supreme
    @Anchor-Supreme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    This show was so incredibly average and predictable that predicted that:
    -The black house maid was actually dead, and that’s why she was staring at the well
    -The ghost with the glasses was Danny’s old boyfriend
    -The kids were being possessed by the ghosts of the old babysitter and rich douchefuck
    -At some point lesbians were going to show up

    • @poppag8281
      @poppag8281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought it was good

    • @khfan4life365
      @khfan4life365 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      “Rich douchefuck”. That got a chuckle out of me. Good one.

  • @shiftstart
    @shiftstart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    When you don’t read books growing up, you don’t have the concept of story telling. And when you don’t know how to tell a story, you can’t write a good script. Expect that from any screen writer that’s younger than 42.

    • @shiftstart
      @shiftstart 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The cutoff between Gen x and Millennial is actually 39.

    • @Weightlimit
      @Weightlimit 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great point shiftstart

    • @shiftstart
      @shiftstart 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Mr. Censored 3.0 What Hollywood needs is big shot actors forming United Artists 2.0. So that Disney and others no longer control story and creative control. This of course is unlikely, since younger generation actors prefer to collect any paycheck Disney and others throw in their way.

  • @scooty4115
    @scooty4115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    Why does every piece of entertainment these days have to have at the very least one lesbian character?

    • @SuperArmus
      @SuperArmus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      I got tired of this trend 5 years ago...

    • @jeffreyhejny7522
      @jeffreyhejny7522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      With zero lesbian sex.

    • @cincochishom22
      @cincochishom22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @ScissorMeTimbers ?

    • @cincochishom22
      @cincochishom22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Captain marvel in a nutshell

    • @frankjohnson761
      @frankjohnson761 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@hendrikscheepers4144 Doesent make any sense. She never acts as I would call "Badass" or nor does the gardner.

  • @khfan4life365
    @khfan4life365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I feel like the Lake Lady’s backstory episode could have been put earlier in the episode line-up, like Flora tells Dani the story when Dani is putting her to bed or the housekeeper tells Dani the story when they are all sitting around that campfire in ep 4 and they treated it like a legend until the Lake Lady shows up near the end and surprises them all.

  • @chairmanwario
    @chairmanwario 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Why can’t female characters just be sisterly friends anymore?

    • @khfan4life365
      @khfan4life365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ikr? I would have liked if Dany remained single, like the governess does in the original story. Every Netflix show seems to be so obsessed with romance that they seem to forget the friendship is also very important, especially is spooky situations.

    • @cheeseburgersuperior1874
      @cheeseburgersuperior1874 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. It needs to be GAY. You can't be friends. Be gay.

    • @vicentserrano9268
      @vicentserrano9268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      no, it needs to be strong friendship, brotherly AND sisterly friendship. NOT turn to gay and lesbian for two seconds out of nowhere, just strong and bond FRIENDSHIP.

  • @Jack72607
    @Jack72607 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I wasted 2 hours of my life on bly manor and I want them back

    • @rudolphguarnacci197
      @rudolphguarnacci197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can't. Sorry.

    • @Jack72607
      @Jack72607 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Officer Murphy Used my father’s account. No way I’m paying for the crap they produce. I guess the last good Netflix original I saw was actually Hill House over 2 years ago

  • @chearne8450
    @chearne8450 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I stopped watching it after the fourth episode when it became apparent it was more about Sexuality and gender politics then a telling a ghost Storey………... I'm really fed up of this crap now, It's time to go back to telling storeys and characterization instead of representation and identity politics.

  • @alanhanley3187
    @alanhanley3187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I literally forgot about The Lady in the Lake until she grabbed Dani, it took me three days to finish the show and I was fast forwarding a lot in the epilogue.

  • @WolfintheMeadow
    @WolfintheMeadow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I watched Bly off the back of EFAP's recommendation: Possibly the greatest show ever made, they said. I couldn't finish it, I found it boring, It didn't know what it wanted to be and it was about as scary as a gentle summer stroll. Not a patch on it's predecessor. Still, the acting was mostly pretty good, and it's nice to see Rahul Kohlii getting work.

  • @spaceodds1985
    @spaceodds1985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Haunting of Hill House would have been great... if it didn’t need the filler episodes. As for Bly Manor... watch the 1961 film The Innocents, possibly the best adaptation of The Turn of the Screw.

    • @lasura
      @lasura 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, I immediately thought of the Innocents when I started watching Bly Manor and recommend my mom just watch that instead of clogging through that story drawn over a whole season

    • @kieran6417
      @kieran6417 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I knew I'd seen this story before haha

    • @spaceodds1985
      @spaceodds1985 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lasura And you were absolutely right to recommend that. 👏

    • @redskins59rocs
      @redskins59rocs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The Others from 2001 is solid as well, not an adaptation but pretty similar.

    • @josephsonderling2384
      @josephsonderling2384 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He starts going through the plot and I'm just like. Naw, I've already seen The Innocents.

  • @ki11aqueen5
    @ki11aqueen5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    2:04 you forgot to mention Dani from terminator dark shit

    • @possummagic3571
      @possummagic3571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Does Danaerys count?

    • @e.r.8710
      @e.r.8710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@possummagic3571 Just wanted to post this.

  • @alphacause
    @alphacause 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Haunting of the Lifetime Channel.

  • @anotherdude9456
    @anotherdude9456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel validated when I hear that you in a nutshell felt the same way I did about this show. It left my mind immediately after I finished it and I was completely unexcited about it. Not the 2nd show in this universe I had hoped for.

  • @losingisntloosing.stopit1396
    @losingisntloosing.stopit1396 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    The lesbian love angle was telegraphed from a mile away. I actually liked the acting. The ghosts were extremely disappointing. Also why did the possessions allow the ghost to be in control when they're allowed in but Danny controlled hers somehow?
    Edit: also she leaves the property in Danny's body. Wtf?

    • @Sarahonwheels
      @Sarahonwheels 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I knew what was coming as soon as that lady who was fitting her dress and then the camera showed her touching dani's shoulders.

    • @ri3121
      @ri3121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah i agree with the acting. I especially am starting to like Victoria Pedretti more and more after haunting of hill house and You season 2

    • @Sarahonwheels
      @Sarahonwheels 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ri3121 i like her too. I didn't realize that she was adult Ellie in hill house.

    • @KaNoMikoProductions
      @KaNoMikoProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Of course she leaves the property. She was the entire reason ghosts COULDN'T leave the property. Because she was a gravity well, or whatever.

    • @nita7703
      @nita7703 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it's mostly because the lady of the lake thought that Flora was her daughter, thus sorta fulfilling her own wish and going back to sleep. And it's literally a plot point that when a ghost is invited inside a human they can go outside (I'm 99% that was the bad guy's plan).

  • @josephdillard9907
    @josephdillard9907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Jesus christ man, have we really gotten to the point that straight, hetero, and yes i'll say it NORMAL relationships just aren't allowed on tv anymore?

    • @MirandaSinistra
      @MirandaSinistra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There's nothing wrong with saying hetero relationships are normal because they are.
      Being straight is the norm.
      Doesn't mean being gay is wrong just that it's not common.

    • @redskins59rocs
      @redskins59rocs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Of course not, they just have to be a raging dumpster fire of a relationship with plenty of abuse and depression lol.

    • @KratosisGod
      @KratosisGod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The rate at which the world is going pretty soon being hetero will be considered abnormal.

    • @LovelessOmbra
      @LovelessOmbra 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Literally the very reason our main character goes to Bly Manor is the death of her male fiance. The original owners of Bly Manor also had hetero relationships. The current male owner of the estate had an affair with a woman, who was also in a hetero relationship. Hannah Grose has a hetero relationship. Peter Quint has a hetero relationship.
      One gay couple isn't going to kill you.

    • @LovelessOmbra
      @LovelessOmbra 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @crazy silly in what way is the diversity forced and in what ways does it affect the show? Alien pushed for diversity back in 1979 and it's one of the best sci fi horror films of all time. Also, I'm not even arguing that the cast and characters aren't diverse. My only point was against this bizarro claim that heterosexual relationships are being made to be considered abnormal and that this show was somehow pushing that. Even though he vast majority of relationships that occur in the show are heterosexual relationships.
      The point about gay relationships is objectively wrong in reference to Bly Manor.
      Also, Bly Manor was produced by the same people as Hill House. So you're categorically incorrect in that assertion.

  • @JC-cb8oi
    @JC-cb8oi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Odd, I felt the way you felt about Bly Manor with Haunting of Hill House. Interesting family drama with a toothless eerie backdrop that never really delivers the scares. This being meh is just following the path of its predecessor.

  • @RCSVirginia
    @RCSVirginia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Whenever I see a movie with the word haunting in the title, I immediately think of the 1963 film "The Haunting" with Claire Bloom and Julie Harris based on Shirley Jackson's "The Haunting of Hill House." It was--and still is--excellent and far better than any other movie with haunting in its title.

  • @minlow7831
    @minlow7831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I wanted a ghost story not a lesbian family drama

  • @ChodaBoyUSA
    @ChodaBoyUSA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    You forgot diverse empowered female savior of humanity Dani, in Terminator: Dork Fate.

  • @joshlynch5676
    @joshlynch5676 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Haunting of Hill House was great. The Haunting of Bly Manor felt like a chore to watch. They tried way too hard to make it an art piece or something.

  • @DragonmanX90
    @DragonmanX90 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Every time I see the glowing eye dude; I think he's Elijah Wood from Sin City.

    • @miks301
      @miks301 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      would have actually been scarier

  • @7milesdavis
    @7milesdavis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Yeah I just watched this too. For a while I thought it might go somewhere. It doesn't. They managed to shoehorn in some lesbians though...so mission accomplished! Strong female lesbian has to break free of her straight haunted past.
    If aliens had to learn our culture from modern TV, they would think everyone is gay.

    • @Sarahonwheels
      @Sarahonwheels 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think why she was closeted because of her trauma associated with her fiance's death. She was afraid to come out to him because she was afraid of how he would react to it, if she came out to him at the diner. I think he would have been understanding but because she was too scared, he got distressed and died. If you didn't see that coming as soon as that lady touching her shoulders, they gave her huge flags that she wasn't exactly straight.

  • @theantithesis3358
    @theantithesis3358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    You should do a debate with Mauler about this, because he REALLY loved this show. I really enjoyed it too, and would be interested in hearing you two discuss it.

    • @TheElbowKing
      @TheElbowKing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I enjoy Efap but they're wrong about this one. Unless suddenly terrible acting and bad pacing are objectable good qualities.

    • @KaNoMikoProductions
      @KaNoMikoProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don't think Drinker would do too well on the debate, seeing as major issues of his is that it wasn't what he expected, and that he didn't like the ghosts being explained (which Mauler says he liked).

    • @jameshammer8131
      @jameshammer8131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@TheElbowKing Given your previous comments. Your bias fool who get's salty over sjw issues, and has no idea what good acting is. So yes a debate that isnt full of annoying sjw rats like you would be nice.

    • @frankjohnson761
      @frankjohnson761 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jameshammer8131 He's a parasite. I like Drinker, but he has such annoying snowflakes in the comment sections.

    • @Don11037
      @Don11037 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What did you enjoy about it?

  • @weaktea4252
    @weaktea4252 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bly was outstanding. I'm obsessed with it.

  • @songbird6414
    @songbird6414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I will defend this show to the bitter end because of how much the ending made me cry but I will admit I kept calling Eddie’s ghost “moth man” and any time he was on screen I would think of that and break out laughing

  • @alejoyt8738
    @alejoyt8738 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    This season of "Haunting" felt lackluster compared to the first one. In S1, every little detail had an implication with a character, ghost, or mansion. Everything was well thought through and they took the time to show it to you, although, in a sneaky almost hidden way, the “broken neck lady” for example.
    This season, the main ghost made no sense to me. Why is she always returning to the manner? Is it to get revenge on her sister/killer? That's the first thing she did. Is it to be reunited with her daughter, although she doesn't remember her face?... well, she took a boy, that should be enough to calm her, more so when they say she was looking for a child, but couldn´t remember who that child was. And if she was looking for her daughter, why would she give up Flora and possess Dany/Poppins? We never saw that as a motivation for the lady of the lake, so why would she give up the one thing it was clear she was coming to the manner for(her daughter/child)? Or is it to hunt Bly, HER property, so no one else could claim ownership of her old house? If so, why possess Danny and leave the manner? What is the motivation behind that?
    Season 2 was entertaining, but miles away from the first one. Not as clever, well thought out and put together as Hill House.

    • @TheElbowKing
      @TheElbowKing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It doesn't make sense, she accepts Dany's offer just to want to take her over and return to the lake? Maybe she thought Dany would actually have a child instead of living a sjws fanfiction.
      Also a bit weird she doesn't kill Dany instantly like Peter. The power of MC plot armor!

    • @Sylvine
      @Sylvine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think that was kind of the point with the watery bint - she's lost her purpose (as symbolized by her losing her facial features), and all that remained was a vague, malevolent bundle of instinct that sometimes plainly misfired (probably some commentary on the pitfalls of tradition? Had that vibe to me).
      The reason she went for Danny in the end was because Danny said the "It's You, it's me, it's us" phrase, which the lady remembered as the thing she had said to her daughter (iirc). I am not sure on that, but I think it is implied that Danny is a descendant of her daughter - she and her father left for presumably America after dropping the chest into the lake. So there might also be that. Would make sense for her to try and force Danny into the lake later on, in order to give her descendant the chest.

    • @TheElbowKing
      @TheElbowKing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Dany is a descendant? I certainly never felt that was hinted at all. If it was it could go nicely under bad writing and "wacky coincidences".

    • @KaNoMikoProductions
      @KaNoMikoProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She went into Dani because Dani somehow knew to say the "it's you, it's me, it's us" phrase, that she had heard from Peter and Rebecca, who somehow knew about it.

    • @Sylvine
      @Sylvine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheElbowKing well it's never explicitly stated, but it's hinted at. Would fit the producer's style, and "wacky coincidence" is tolerable in a show with supernatural elements IMO. The biggest piece of evidence for it, in my opinion, is that Viola says the You-Me-Us phrase in the past to her daughter, making it an obvious heritage-like link, from a storytelling perspective. Would also sorta explain why she's so perceptive to all the ghosts, seeing how they in turm are all linked to Viola by means of her "curse" - in a vague, makes-sense-for-ghost-stories kinda way.
      I know it's not solid evidence, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's confirmed in an interview eventually. Kinda like the Room Ending in Hill House, which the producer initially intended, but alas just didn't have the balls to follow through with :)

  • @drhfuhruhurr1899
    @drhfuhruhurr1899 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The Simpsons already did it with.... "The Re-Deadening" 😁

  • @nipnop7995
    @nipnop7995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The haunting of hill house had me hooked first episode and I was eager to continue. Bly manor had me bored as all hell within the first 20 mins. Couldn’t get past that and will not give the series a chance.

  • @brandondavidvillapando2558
    @brandondavidvillapando2558 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My main problem was Episode 7 when Dani was Dragging the girl outside to escape the Manor, the girl suddenly acted erratic and angry because their brother isn't with them. It seems hella forced, like really forced. She saw what happened and how her brothy is not her brother anymore, but still she has to have a tamper tantrum about it. It really felt forced and was made as excuse for the No Face Lady to Drag Dani

  • @HAL-dm1eh
    @HAL-dm1eh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I don't even have Pedoflix or watch anything that comes out of Hollywood anymore but I still watch you to keep abreast of the latest cinematic situations (which is mostly a nightmare).

  • @zycane
    @zycane 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Early boys in the pub!
    Time to get hammered while watching some Good content!

  • @newwavepop
    @newwavepop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i still have two episodes left but honestly for me so far im feeling about the same as i did last year for Hill House, i was intrigued the first episode or two then i got bored through the middle and it felt like a genuine chore just to finish it up but it paid off for me in the end. and its the reason it took me so long to go ahead and start watching this one because i remember how much the other one dragged for me. all that said ive never really been a horror person anyway mostly because i have never seen any film that horrified me, and i just find jump scares and long dramatic slow obvious movements towards sudden shocks annoying.

  • @JonahMcD
    @JonahMcD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    after seeing the first few episodes, i’m intrigued because of the mystery and uniqueness of it all. haven’t gotten into the romance yet, but so far, i’m liking it.
    the portrayal of the creepy children is executed greatly.

  • @simonking195
    @simonking195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    The worst thing was the awful accents. It should be illegal for Americans to pretend to be british 😂

    • @KingComanche
      @KingComanche 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also can anyone explain why Flora was British until she grew up? Like I get that some people might adopt a new accents living somewhere but I refuse to accept that, with zero progression, Flora went from full on accent swap from start to finish. Also a bit questionable that Old Jamie was from the US and Young Jamie was British but Old Jamie elected to take on not a US accent nor the same one as Young Jamie, just a charicature of what people think accents are

    • @macanoon
      @macanoon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@KingComanche It was told in the finale bly manor was not the name of the mansion and it may not have even been in england. She changed the details for the story. Also if you move a child that young they can def lose their accent

    • @KingComanche
      @KingComanche 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@macanoon oh, gotcha. Fair enough. I think I took it too literally as the characters as younger people were who they actually were and not just story telling pieces. Thanks

    • @complexperplexity
      @complexperplexity 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dani's accent was awful too and she was an American playing an American.

    • @StationaryBeggar
      @StationaryBeggar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh yeah and the other way around as well. Few can pull it off believably.

  • @meatboy5246
    @meatboy5246 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think the most haunting thing was hearing 'perfectly splendid' to the point of insanity!

    • @d_inkz
      @d_inkz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A very heavy handed set-up for an "aha!" moment later of a plot point that was easily guessable long before it happened.

  • @alphacause
    @alphacause 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Haunting of The Notebook

  • @federalist46
    @federalist46 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Is anyone else completely fed up with homocentric, diverse and politically correct "entertainment"?

    • @hysuka2
      @hysuka2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm fed up with it too but this show wasn't one of them. I didn't like it but it's definitely not because there's people of color (why is this suddenly a problem now??) or a lesbian couple.

  • @albaniahenry-franklin2829
    @albaniahenry-franklin2829 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Your review reminded me that the first season of "American Horror Story" handled this exact same type of material a helluva' lot better back in 2011.

  • @grilledleeks6514
    @grilledleeks6514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Its to the point where gay relationships in media basically means low quality story. Is it not possible to be a good writer and also support same sex relationships? Apparently not

    • @okubothecat
      @okubothecat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      The problem is a good writer will focus on the story and how to make it interesting while a bad writer can be counted on to focus on characters being gay

    • @claudeagle271
      @claudeagle271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Honestly thought the lesbian relationship from hill house was done better. It seemed more genuine and understandable then bly.

    • @TheDBZEDITOR
      @TheDBZEDITOR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@claudeagle271 it was handled so well and not shoved in our faces and down our throats.

    • @haydeng3316
      @haydeng3316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheDBZEDITOR so much so that I forgot it existed. That's how natural and subtle it was

    • @haydeng3316
      @haydeng3316 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      have you seen the san junipero episode of black mirror or the early seasons of shameless (us) and game of thrones? It can happen lol

  • @disgustedguy
    @disgustedguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What the caveman seemingly don't get is that Hill House and Bly Manor are first of all ghost stories. The first story was packed in a horror-themed scenario, which makes absolutely sense, 'cause nobody knew on which basis everything happens. It wouldn't make sense to pack the second story also into a horror scenario, 'cause all of the ghost things it shows everybody knows already from the first one. So they did a different take on that one and made it a love story. If you were attentive you could know that the housekeeper is a ghost from the first episode on, 'cause for example she never really ate or drunk something, when all the others did. The time jumping and the semi selfawareness of ghosts were a big twist in the first story and you would hated it for sure, if they instantly repeated the same twist in the second one. To that extent they made the twist of the first story a basis for the second one. There were no explanation needed anymore and so they could concentrate on other things, for example backstories of characters. I wonder if the caveman did noticed the twist of Bly Manor. I guess not.

  • @deathbysloth
    @deathbysloth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also, what the hell did the dolls have to do with anything? They were clearly tied-in to the ghosts and then never paid off.

  • @anubusx
    @anubusx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The ghost of Dani's boyfriend looks like Kevin from Sin City.

    • @reharl4953
      @reharl4953 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was probably the writer's inspiration.

    • @thedragon133
      @thedragon133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If fricking only... that show could have used some unsettling slaughter.

  • @BlyGuy
    @BlyGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The only time my manor is haunted is post pinching a loaf after a long nights drink.

  • @fernandoballejos7290
    @fernandoballejos7290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mann, i hated the black and white "oh, so this is the whole backstory of the house" episode

    • @princessstomper8068
      @princessstomper8068 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I liked it - they should have just adapted that ('The Romance of Old Clothes') instead and made that the season

    • @fernandoballejos7290
      @fernandoballejos7290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@princessstomper8068 it's not a bad chapter by itself, I just don't like that it is made to explain someting that should've been explained or developed more patiently troughout the story

  • @khfan4life365
    @khfan4life365 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I read a theory somewhere that Viola may have had lung cancer misdiagnosed as tuberculosis, which was why she lived and deteriorated for so long, and it spread to her stomach (explaining the vomiting) and her brain (explaining her odd paranoia). That would have been a better storyline than the tuberculosis that should have killed her long before she actually died.