All I can think of is that one AVGN moment. "I'm playing Rad Racer with the Power Glove, and wearing 3D glasses. You can't get any more rad than that!"
I think I successfully streamed missile defense on Twitch. I had to find a stereo camera that could slow down to 15 frames per second, and do a couple of other things that could be considered redneck (saving money by buying a second pair of glasses with no earpieces and velcroing it to my stereo camera.) to get a successful capture. I think I might have criminalized it's and converted to red and cyan.
Feels like we havent gotten a single-game episode in quite a while! But man there was a lot of tech and history packed in here. Excellent job, as always.
Hey Jeremy, a lot of 3D Sega games can be turned to a 2D mode by pressing the pause button on the title screen. Double Hawk even has a secret 3D mode by doing the same, so maybe Sega got cold feet on the concept by then.
8:00 This is the version of the Sega Master System that our family had, the SegaScope 3-D. I completely forgot about Missile Defense 3-D until watching this video. Thank you for bringing back the memories as always, Jeremy.
Definitely a worthwhile episode. A game that needs two peripherals that don't work well with modern TVs. It's good that Cerny gave us an updated take on Missile Command. And those glasses on you really give you that Power Blade look.
Great video as always! My one contribution I can give to this Sega 3D Glasses discussion is that for the 3DS Sega 3D Classics Collection, cover artist Ken Sugimori (famous for Pokemon but also long time hardcore Sega fan) redesigned Space Harrier to rock a pair of Sega 3D Glasses instead of generic shades. I only noticed when I was drawing every Space Harrier design for a Harrier fanzine and my mind was blown when I realized. What a rad detail 😎
The 3D glasses are a fun accessory. I really wanted to get a set when I found out about them. Thankfully, it was before prices went crazy. Missle Defense is a nice combination light phaser and 3D. It doesn't work perfectly but it is still fun to play.
He also founded Sega Technical Institute in the 90's, a joint American-Japanese development team within Sega, responsible for some iconic games on Sega Genesis like Sonic 2 and Comix Zone.
Pretty much nailed it. While the 3D was really awesome on this game. It did make it harder to shoot the targets. Also the 3D glasses, even when I was a kid, were not comfortable to wear. Very little flex in the hinge and the hard plastic really dug into your head. But they did make a great 3D image.
Just a quick thing to point out - 3D films in the 50s actually started out with polarized 3D like we have now. Red/Blue anaglyph 3D happened later as a cost cutting measure.
Missile Defense 3-D is one of my favorite Master System games. With that said. rather than use and potentially break the child size official Sega glasses, I use some aftermarket ASUS branded glasses that use the same audio jack connection to plug into the 3D adapter (or my Japanese Master System which has the 3D glasses port built in with that wacky FM sound module). You can also use the Famicom 3D headset or the Laseractive glasses.
Yeah, I was thinking, "Shouldn't there be standardization in the 3D active shutter accessory market?" I mean, it doesn't seem too complicated to pick up a signal from an incoming wire (or now, over bluetooth or whatever) to know when to close each eye, it's just a matter of having all the devices use the same setup. Once one setup works, everyone would just copy that so that all the items are interchangeable, and could even be used in different regions with different refresh rates, because the signal being sent to the glasses would be controlled by the software.
Let me tell you something. That level of dedication you put into your content is commended by me. Wow. To buy a whole new console just to review just this one game is dedication. Most would have skipped over the game entirely. This channel is great
I wasn't prepared to learn today that you were constructed at 85% scale. I keep loading up these videos expecting one thing and then having my mind blown by something else entirely. I guess that's why I keep coming back, though I should have learned to expect it by now.
Straight from the future: Mr. Jeremy Parish! I do remember trying the sega 3D glasses back in 88, I think it was, but I really don't remember the effect.
If I remember right, I used a pair of Asus 3d PC glasses for my Master System's 3d glasses. I have 2 pairs of the originals, but both have broken temples. Also, from my experience, the box that plugs into the card slot tends to have electrical faults. I've had to repair all 3 of the ones that went through my possession.
Always happy to see a shout-out to SubRoc 3D. Back in the 80s, we had a local arcade in my town where they had the sit-down version of the cabinet. Looking back on it now, the gameplay was very shallow, but that stuff looked amazing back then. Super Scaler games had nothing on it. It also puzzled me that when I tried showing others how cool the game was, all they saw was junk. I never realized it was just a blurry mess that was being filtered just for me through that periscope. To 9-year-old me, it was literal magic.
I just found 2 of the 3-D Glasses in a box the other day. Never got rid of them. Although, I had a 3rd one, which I had "taped" together with a band-aid. I didn't have access to normal tape when I was a kid, so, this was the next best thing. Last time I used them was back in college, during one of our r0x0r gaming events.
Yet another fantastic video on my favourite console of all time, from the view of someone who didn't have 3D rose-tinted glasses as it wasn't the "main" system in their home country. I can't wait for your views on the actually GREAT games like Wonder Boy III!
If you search "Primeiro comercial do Master System TecToy" shows a tv ad where tectoy used an animation inspired in this game. At time it was a very high tech thing, specially in Brazil.
"All of this is a lot of hassle to go to for a game whose core gameplay loop lasts 5 minutes, but that's Sega, baby" I laughed at this WAY harder than I expected, mainly because it's true 🤣🤣
I'd imagine that their 3D games were designed to be played in short bursts because of the tendency of 'shuttervision' glasses to give users a splitting headache after 30-60 minutes. At least that was my experience with similar tech, although I never used Sega's version specifically.
I only hope I look half as cool as you rocking my Sega Scope shades. I think Sub-Roc was a tremendous idea, sadly I only played it a few times in my life. Mark Cerny looked so amazing in that footage. He was Ric Ocasek ver 2.0.
It is remarkable to see these games as I can't recall anyone ever playing them growing up here in Sweden. I remember nothing being said of them in magazines of the time or later, but they DID release in PAL regions so they muat have come out here, just never mentioned again. At least I have this deep dive to draw from if I ever get curious again!
As someone who had a 3DS and a 3d-Tv purchased around 2012ish during the year that was a thing I’ve always been fascinated by these even though I never ever will get to play with them. It seems like the best medium at getting a 3d picture to work?, since so much of the 3DS depended on looking at exactly the right angle (Firing something coming at you in a fake 3d space seems like an especially difficult attempt to sell an audience though)
I inherited this entire game system from my uncle as a child. Included Missile Defense, Maze Hunter-3D, a 3D-ish SHMUP game, and some crappy shooting gallery game. Even as a kid, the 3D glasses darkened the image considerably. My parents forced me to sell it a few years later at a yard sale because I didn't play it much. Probably would be worth a lot now. Maze Hunter-3D is a SON OF A GUN but fairly interesting. 3D effect was pretty good. Cheap game to buy.
Really great episode as usual. It's really why I loved the Master System so much then. It was weird, it tried things, and everything was in-house so it was like this big experiment. Can't wait for next week, Kung Fu Kid was one of my favourite games !
Out Run 3D (the Sega Master System Game) also had a release on the 3DS, but Japan only. Came on the same cart as 3D Out Run (a 3D’d version of the arcade game.) The nice thing about Out Run 3D is that it had a 2D mode
M2 included a few of these games as bonuses in their 3D Archives cartridge releases on 3DS. "Sega 3D Fukkoku Archives" includes Space Harrier 3D and OutRun 3D, while "Fukkoku Archives 2" includes Maze Walker (and a 3Dified Fantasy Zone II). The third one opted for a couple SG-1000 games.
I had both the NES and Master System as a kid. I like Missile Defense SOOO much better than Duck Hunt. The 3D, the awesome intense music, no annoying dog..
With regards to Missile Defense 3D, it is probably the single most common game I could find in the wild I never played simply because even finding the glasses complete was a major pain in the ass. Best I ever got was buying a Sega 3D set at a garage sale where I ended up with the physical glasses but not the required card port input that goes with it. Combine that with the lack of interest I had in any 3D games besides Zaxxon and you had a whole group of games which had little to no interest from anyone once the glasses were no longer available at retail.
Didn't the original commercial for Missile Defense 3D have the dad wearing the glasses and having his mind blown by all the missiles flying around his living room? So you're not alone in your adult 3D glasses-fit. Maybe heads were just smaller back in the mid-1980s.
I still have my Sega Master System 3-D glasses. I wore them in my Instagram profile pic when I first set up my IG account a decade ago and haven't changed it.
This is a fun one. I've got a very modded game gear I installed 3d glasses hardware, av out, and I can use a ROM hack to plug the phaser into the link port (it's essentially the master system 2nd controller port). I'm certain I'm the only person who has experienced this game at intended running on a game gear plugged into a crt. Looking forward to videos of the other 3d games!
I actually had the glasses as a kid, the 3D effect was very impressive. Unfortunately, both of the arms that hold it on the ears broke off at some point; I replaced them with cardboard facsimiles.
Missile Defense 3-D is one of my favorite Master System games and maybe my favorite light gun game. I do not use the sights for aiming as I keep the Phaser around my stomach when playing.
I missed this video's initial release because I was on vacation to the USA to visit friends and go to a furry convention, so that opening of McGruff the Crime Dog got quite the laugh out of me x3
It takes a lot of hardware...3D glasses, SMS, Phaser, and CRT...but Missile Defense 3D is EASILY the most fun you can have with a light gun on an 8 bit system. I didn't get the game until well into 32 bit era and I still played it a ton. It's very emersive.
I played the heck out of Sub Roc 3D in the arcade. I never understood why it didn’t get a 3D release on the Master System, or even a 2D release on anything other than the Colecovision.
My sister had the Master System bundled with the 3D Glasses, and I thought there was a way to turn the 3D imaging on and off. You could do that with other games like Maze Hunter 3D.
I had the Sega 3D Glasses for the Master System and remember playing Zaxxon 3D. Unfortunately, the music and sound were horrendous with the PSG audio instead of FM.
That was one of the stinging points during the 8-bit console wars with the Sega kids, their 3D glasses were wickedly cool while Nintendo has paper crap...haha. I guess Nintendo would eventually win the home 3D crown with the 3DS.
The same 3D technology used in the PlayStation 3D Display in 2011. I have one of those. I think it might be the worst 3D technology, except for maybe the red and blue glasses.
When I picked up my Master System I had enough birthday money for the version with the light phaser and two controllers. I did try to persuade my Dad that the 3D glasses pack would be awesome but he must have known 3D in gaming was a fad but let me down gently by saying "what do you want this for, these videos games are all a waste of money" thanks Dad.
My friend had the glasses and Zaxxon 3-D. The effect was not bad, as it looked like things were coming out past the boundries of the T V. Screen. The thing that sucked was the headaches which I got everytime we fired it up. Sadly, when I went to buy the system, games and glasses from him years later he trashed it. He was an idiot who could not take care of games right. :(
Way back when I remember a friend of mine being over the moon about the 3D glasses with his SMS until I asked him how many games could he use them with. Then he moved on and we just played Double Dragon which again he was completely enamored with since it was a more faithful conversion of the arcade game than the NES version. I guess he felt he had to be overly enthusiastic about his SMS since he was the only kid at school that owned one vs dozens of kids that had a NES. Even as a kid the idea of games in 3D or game consoles supporting 3D was never important to me. I've always been legally blind in my left eye so much like Jeremy said in this video if I were playing a game in 3D I would just end up closing my left eye so I could better concentrate with my right eye. The same was again true in the late 2000s/early 2010s when they were trying to again trying to push 3D in the movie theaters and with newer TVs.
@@JeremyParish True 'nuff! Your videos are about video games, not movie history after all. :) TBH, I was always jealous of people who had the Vectrex 3D goggles and later anyone who had this Master System thing. I had the silly red/blue cardboard glasses for Rad Racer and 3D World Runner and they didn't work well and made me sad.
I wonder whatever happened to that Mark Cerny guy. After a commercial failure like the 3D goggles, I bet he was kicked out of the industry and is now an insurance salesman in Omaha or something.
I completely DISAGREE with you on this. Missile Defense 3D is one of the core reasons to OWN a Sega Master System. Its has a Fantastic 3d experience that is only sort of matched by Maze Hunter 3D. The games may be short... but they are very intense, and take a lot of developed skill to keep going. And as far as Aiming goes... you are also wrong about that too. 99% of Lightgun games are NOT designed for "Sighting" down the barrel... because these games move way too fast. Sighting, is for "SNIPER" type of games. If you were a cop that walked into a Bank robbery... and there were 5 dudes that you needed to take out ASAP... you would NEVER aim with a single Eye, down the Sight. You shoot from where your arms are pointed, without the sight. Otherwise, it would take WAY too long to aim... and you would end up Eating Lead. Heck... there is a famous Fast-Draw Sharp Shooter, that can draw... fire two bullets, hit one target twice (or two different targets), and put the gun back in the holster, in less than a single second of time. Its so fast, that they had to use high speed cameras to even SEE both shots being fired.. because it doesnt even seem humanly possible. He fires both shots "From the HIP" (without visual sight aim, and without extending his arms fully away from his body). This in one reason why his shots are so damn fast. Now, here is the thing... Missile Defense 3D is a fantastic 3D experience... but... Its still not as FUN as "Shooting Gallery". Shooting Gallery, is in fact, one of my all-time favorite lightgun games of All time... beating out every Arcade gun game that Ive ever played. Its faster, far more challenging, and is Super fun + Super Addictive. If Shooting Gallery had stereoscopic 3D, it would be even more amazing... merely for the depth experience (someone, please make a Stereo 3D Conversion of it!). Maze Hunter 3D, is, from my personal experience, the only other 3D SMS game worthy of replay. It is a little slow in gameplay... but the cool visual experience is worth it. I also owned Blade Eagle 3D... but that game was hard as balls... and the 3D effect was mostly wasted... because much of it was in the black of outer-space, where you didnt experience much depth. I almost purchased Outrun 3D... but it was so expensive at the time... and I already owned Outrun for the SMS... and wasnt a fan of how poorly that it looked, and ran. It was a huge let down, compared to the Arcade version, that I loved. I also assumed that if Outrun was any slower (due to having to split its frames between two eyes), it would be even more Unplayable that it already was. I also never really cared for Space Harrier as a game... and my brother already owned that for the SMS... so again, I skipped it. Especially because I believe they altered the games graphics, rather than just converting the original version. Ive played Zaxxson 3D in an emulator... and the gameplay and graphics looked awful. I dont think 3D would have saved that game. Though, I did enjoy the arcade versions of Zaxxon / Super-Zaxxon. Had they been able to keep the 3ths perspective, but in stereo 3D... now that would have been cool. Instead, this looked like a very bad and rushed Prototype, that wasnt any fun, IMO. Now... as far as the best Stereoscopic 3D game that Ive every experienced in my life? That goes to an arcade game called "Continental Circus 3D". A decent F1 racing game, which I believe was by Taito. Its OK, in 2d mode... but in Stereo 3D mode... its flipping fantastic. There are Spoilers, Tires, and other various parts / pieces + smoke trails... that are flying out of the screen at you, every 40 seconds or so. Its amazing. I was partially able to experience this game again, by running it in mame (emulator), turning on the 3D mode (F2?)... and firing up my Sega Master system with a 3d game + wearing the 3d Glasses. Sadly.. the glasses do not fully Sync up with the PC monitor... and so you only get to see part of the 3d effect, and part of it distorts.. But even then, when things align... it looks fantastic. Maybe there is an Emulator out there, that can use VR Glasses, to be able to experience this and other 3D games, properly.
Im going to add... that Old Sega 3D glasses... often have two main issues: 1) At least one of the Ear-Arms on them, are often broken. 2) There appears to be a small resister or capacitor? In the center of the glasses... that seems to degrade over time. If and when that happens.. the 3D effect will not be Precise.. and things wont be as deep and clear, if it works at all. There was another (superior) 3D shutter glass paid that people were recommending, that used to be for another system or PC. I cant recall. All I know, is that it was even more affordable, and it worked even better than the original pair (an even brighter picture to boot). A lot of my stuff is still in storage, and I dont currently have easy access to it... let alone, know if you can still get hold of those same glasses these days. I believe I had got mine from Ebay auctions. Of course, if you dont have the SMS Card that the glasses plug into... then forget about it. Of course, you are going to need an old CRT TV, to use these devices. Note, that the larger the Display size... the greater the 3D effect that is possible. Where a 15 inch monitor might allow for an object to extend about 3 to 4 inches out of the screen... a 25" monitor... might allow for 6 to 7 inches of "Floating" out of the screen (depending on how big the object size is, and how the game was programmed in its 3D Scaling). Also, while the SMS 3D Glasses Dim the overall brightness... you could always counter than, by cranking your CRTs brightness and contrast levels.
As someone who regularly needs to get the maximum possible size for hats, I think this one's a pass for me... "Some Random Old Dudes, I Dunno" for Reagan and Gorbachev got a big laugh from me.
BTW you cover lots of third generation games. Is there any reason why you're not covering the Atari 7800? I know it's your channel and it's impossible to cover everything. Also you delve into the second generation with the SG1000, but not cover Colecovision or the Atari 5200. I guess you're emphasizing Nintendo and Sega more because Atari is not culturally contiguous between the 7800 days and today, and Coleco was mainly a company that converted others' arcade games for their system. Coleco was not a game designing company, but mainly a conversion programming house. Or maybe you and your circle of friends were not into the Atari systems at that time. I had a rare childhood where as an NES guy, I had (and still have) 1 friend with an SMS and another with a 7800 back in the day.
@@JeremyParish because I noticed the titles of your items all contain pertain to NES and SMS. Maybe your title list have only have recently covered topics and maybe you had a specific 7800 video that's very old or maybe you interspersed 7800 information with your NES and SMS conversations. By the way, I'm kind of new to your Channel. And the 3D episode got me into your list. So is just off first impressions of seeing your episode list and watching the 3d glasses episode. If my first impressions were wrong, I'm sorry. I understand everyone has their own perspective and no one individual perspective 100 percent overlaps with another not even between very close friends. I was just going off your episode list in the one episode I saw so far.
The problem with the Sega 3D Glasses is that now you're going to have to host all remaining episodes of Segaiden wearing them.
All I can think of is that one AVGN moment. "I'm playing Rad Racer with the Power Glove, and wearing 3D glasses. You can't get any more rad than that!"
I think I successfully streamed missile defense on Twitch. I had to find a stereo camera that could slow down to 15 frames per second, and do a couple of other things that could be considered redneck (saving money by buying a second pair of glasses with no earpieces and velcroing it to my stereo camera.) to get a successful capture. I think I might have criminalized it's and converted to red and cyan.
And maybe while wearing leather gloves he can occasionally snap.
Feels like we havent gotten a single-game episode in quite a while! But man there was a lot of tech and history packed in here. Excellent job, as always.
There's another one next week... and then again two weeks after that. Stupid Sega, designing interesting games around inventive tech.
@@JeremyParish YEA!
"I was only constructed at 85% scale" literally made me laugh out loud.
Me too, heartily. That is some smart stuff. Keep up the good work, Jeremy.
An out loud guffaw was heard in my room :)
Flexing his custom specs that allow him greater compatability with certain peripherals, I see how it is.
lmao same
8:59 Just gonna leave this here. The essence of late 80s cool is emanating off this frame, absolutely beautiful Jeremy.
Hey Jeremy, a lot of 3D Sega games can be turned to a 2D mode by pressing the pause button on the title screen.
Double Hawk even has a secret 3D mode by doing the same, so maybe Sega got cold feet on the concept by then.
I had no idea about the Double Hawk trick, thanks for mentioning this!
@@MisterAzathoth No worries! Yeah, it's not even mentioned in the manual strangely.
8:00 This is the version of the Sega Master System that our family had, the SegaScope 3-D. I completely forgot about Missile Defense 3-D until watching this video. Thank you for bringing back the memories as always, Jeremy.
12:06 I love the "video breaking up" effect, I bet it looks fantastic in 3D mode.
Definitely a worthwhile episode. A game that needs two peripherals that don't work well with modern TVs. It's good that Cerny gave us an updated take on Missile Command. And those glasses on you really give you that Power Blade look.
Great video as always! My one contribution I can give to this Sega 3D Glasses discussion is that for the 3DS Sega 3D Classics Collection, cover artist Ken Sugimori (famous for Pokemon but also long time hardcore Sega fan) redesigned Space Harrier to rock a pair of Sega 3D Glasses instead of generic shades. I only noticed when I was drawing every Space Harrier design for a Harrier fanzine and my mind was blown when I realized. What a rad detail 😎
Nice. That's the kind of attention to detail that always makes Sega projects cool.
Cerny: Probably one of the first Americans to work on a Sonic game. Unlike some shall we say, _Tallericant Types._
I'm sure his mother is very proud.
The 3D glasses are a fun accessory. I really wanted to get a set when I found out about them. Thankfully, it was before prices went crazy.
Missle Defense is a nice combination light phaser and 3D. It doesn't work perfectly but it is still fun to play.
Yep, Mark Cerny, architect of the ps4 and Ps5 worked on the Sega 3-D Glasses. Crazy when you think about it
He also founded Sega Technical Institute in the 90's, a joint American-Japanese development team within Sega, responsible for some iconic games on Sega Genesis like Sonic 2 and Comix Zone.
It has been 0 Days since the last Golgo 13 reference.
Pretty much nailed it. While the 3D was really awesome on this game. It did make it harder to shoot the targets. Also the 3D glasses, even when I was a kid, were not comfortable to wear. Very little flex in the hinge and the hard plastic really dug into your head. But they did make a great 3D image.
Excited to learn my head is smaller than a child's!
@@JeremyParish Or it could be I had a had a large head as child too lol
Just a quick thing to point out - 3D films in the 50s actually started out with polarized 3D like we have now. Red/Blue anaglyph 3D happened later as a cost cutting measure.
Missile Defense 3-D is one of my favorite Master System games. With that said. rather than use and potentially break the child size official Sega glasses, I use some aftermarket ASUS branded glasses that use the same audio jack connection to plug into the 3D adapter (or my Japanese Master System which has the 3D glasses port built in with that wacky FM sound module). You can also use the Famicom 3D headset or the Laseractive glasses.
Yeah, I was thinking, "Shouldn't there be standardization in the 3D active shutter accessory market?" I mean, it doesn't seem too complicated to pick up a signal from an incoming wire (or now, over bluetooth or whatever) to know when to close each eye, it's just a matter of having all the devices use the same setup. Once one setup works, everyone would just copy that so that all the items are interchangeable, and could even be used in different regions with different refresh rates, because the signal being sent to the glasses would be controlled by the software.
West City is saved …
* and it’s not even close !*
Let me tell you something. That level of dedication you put into your content is commended by me. Wow. To buy a whole new console just to review just this one game is dedication. Most would have skipped over the game entirely. This channel is great
I wasn't prepared to learn today that you were constructed at 85% scale. I keep loading up these videos expecting one thing and then having my mind blown by something else entirely. I guess that's why I keep coming back, though I should have learned to expect it by now.
Of all films to get the 3D treatment, I never expected The Devil Bat.
LOOKIN SHARP, JEREMY!
20 CRUISE MISSILES WERE LAUNCHED FROM WEST BASE.
ONE REACHED EAST CITY.
THAT'S ALL IT TAKES.
GAME OVER
That game over screen is raw as hell. I love it!
And here I thought I was cool with my Square 3D glasses from 3D World Runner... Mine don't even plug in... :'''(
Straight from the future: Mr. Jeremy Parish!
I do remember trying the sega 3D glasses back in 88, I think it was, but I really don't remember the effect.
If I remember right, I used a pair of Asus 3d PC glasses for my Master System's 3d glasses. I have 2 pairs of the originals, but both have broken temples.
Also, from my experience, the box that plugs into the card slot tends to have electrical faults. I've had to repair all 3 of the ones that went through my possession.
Always happy to see a shout-out to SubRoc 3D. Back in the 80s, we had a local arcade in my town where they had the sit-down version of the cabinet. Looking back on it now, the gameplay was very shallow, but that stuff looked amazing back then. Super Scaler games had nothing on it. It also puzzled me that when I tried showing others how cool the game was, all they saw was junk. I never realized it was just a blurry mess that was being filtered just for me through that periscope. To 9-year-old me, it was literal magic.
I'm envious that you got to witness SubRoc 3-D in person! I've never seen one before. Would love to encounter that in the wild someday.
I just found 2 of the 3-D Glasses in a box the other day. Never got rid of them. Although, I had a 3rd one, which I had "taped" together with a band-aid. I didn't have access to normal tape when I was a kid, so, this was the next best thing.
Last time I used them was back in college, during one of our r0x0r gaming events.
"Tune in, pop out" Goddamn, that's good. Well played, Sir.
Yet another fantastic video on my favourite console of all time, from the view of someone who didn't have 3D rose-tinted glasses as it wasn't the "main" system in their home country. I can't wait for your views on the actually GREAT games like Wonder Boy III!
If you search "Primeiro comercial do Master System TecToy" shows a tv ad where tectoy used an animation inspired in this game. At time it was a very high tech thing, specially in Brazil.
"All of this is a lot of hassle to go to for a game whose core gameplay loop lasts 5 minutes, but that's Sega, baby"
I laughed at this WAY harder than I expected, mainly because it's true 🤣🤣
I'd imagine that their 3D games were designed to be played in short bursts because of the tendency of 'shuttervision' glasses to give users a splitting headache after 30-60 minutes. At least that was my experience with similar tech, although I never used Sega's version specifically.
The Sega 3D Glasses can make anyone look like a member of Devo!
I only hope I look half as cool as you rocking my Sega Scope shades. I think Sub-Roc was a tremendous idea, sadly I only played it a few times in my life. Mark Cerny looked so amazing in that footage. He was Ric Ocasek ver 2.0.
It is remarkable to see these games as I can't recall anyone ever playing them growing up here in Sweden. I remember nothing being said of them in magazines of the time or later, but they DID release in PAL regions so they muat have come out here, just never mentioned again. At least I have this deep dive to draw from if I ever get curious again!
The Sega 3D glasses was a great idea at the time. 😀👍🎮
Terminator 1 shades
As someone who had a 3DS and a 3d-Tv purchased around 2012ish during the year that was a thing
I’ve always been fascinated by these even though I never ever will get to play with them. It seems like the best medium at getting a 3d picture to work?, since so much of the 3DS depended on looking at exactly the right angle (Firing something coming at you in a fake 3d space seems like an especially difficult attempt to sell an audience though)
I inherited this entire game system from my uncle as a child. Included Missile Defense, Maze Hunter-3D, a 3D-ish SHMUP game, and some crappy shooting gallery game. Even as a kid, the 3D glasses darkened the image considerably. My parents forced me to sell it a few years later at a yard sale because I didn't play it much. Probably would be worth a lot now.
Maze Hunter-3D is a SON OF A GUN but fairly interesting. 3D effect was pretty good. Cheap game to buy.
Really great episode as usual. It's really why I loved the Master System so much then. It was weird, it tried things, and everything was in-house so it was like this big experiment. Can't wait for next week, Kung Fu Kid was one of my favourite games !
You look great wearing those glasses. I’m serious, not being sarcastic. Gotta find reasons to wear them in future episodes, not just the 3D ones.
Out Run 3D (the Sega Master System Game) also had a release on the 3DS, but Japan only. Came on the same cart as 3D Out Run (a 3D’d version of the arcade game.) The nice thing about Out Run 3D is that it had a 2D mode
Oh, didn't know I'd need my 3D glasses for this one.
M2 included a few of these games as bonuses in their 3D Archives cartridge releases on 3DS. "Sega 3D Fukkoku Archives" includes Space Harrier 3D and OutRun 3D, while "Fukkoku Archives 2" includes Maze Walker (and a 3Dified Fantasy Zone II). The third one opted for a couple SG-1000 games.
Great episode
You look like Logan's Run , decked out in all the Sega gear. Colossal.
Not an auspicious thing to say to someone as old as I am, man
I had both the NES and Master System as a kid. I like Missile Defense SOOO much better than Duck Hunt. The 3D, the awesome intense music, no annoying dog..
With regards to Missile Defense 3D, it is probably the single most common game I could find in the wild I never played simply because even finding the glasses complete was a major pain in the ass.
Best I ever got was buying a Sega 3D set at a garage sale where I ended up with the physical glasses but not the required card port input that goes with it. Combine that with the lack of interest I had in any 3D games besides Zaxxon and you had a whole group of games which had little to no interest from anyone once the glasses were no longer available at retail.
Shame it's so difficult to get this all up and running in the modern day, but the 3D effect is pretty convincing.
LOL @ "I was constructed at 85% scale"
Didn't the original commercial for Missile Defense 3D have the dad wearing the glasses and having his mind blown by all the missiles flying around his living room? So you're not alone in your adult 3D glasses-fit. Maybe heads were just smaller back in the mid-1980s.
I still have my Sega Master System 3-D glasses. I wore them in my Instagram profile pic when I first set up my IG account a decade ago and haven't changed it.
Had no idea Mark Cerny worked on the SEGA 3-D Glasses, that's pretty rad.
This is a fun one. I've got a very modded game gear I installed 3d glasses hardware, av out, and I can use a ROM hack to plug the phaser into the link port (it's essentially the master system 2nd controller port). I'm certain I'm the only person who has experienced this game at intended running on a game gear plugged into a crt. Looking forward to videos of the other 3d games!
I actually had the glasses as a kid, the 3D effect was very impressive. Unfortunately, both of the arms that hold it on the ears broke off at some point; I replaced them with cardboard facsimiles.
Missile Defense 3-D is one of my favorite Master System games and maybe my favorite light gun game. I do not use the sights for aiming as I keep the Phaser around my stomach when playing.
I missed this video's initial release because I was on vacation to the USA to visit friends and go to a furry convention, so that opening of McGruff the Crime Dog got quite the laugh out of me x3
It takes a lot of hardware...3D glasses, SMS, Phaser, and CRT...but Missile Defense 3D is EASILY the most fun you can have with a light gun on an 8 bit system. I didn't get the game until well into 32 bit era and I still played it a ton. It's very emersive.
Practice rapid, alternating winks to get the full effect from this video.
I played the heck out of Sub Roc 3D in the arcade. I never understood why it didn’t get a 3D release on the Master System, or even a 2D release on anything other than the Colecovision.
Hopefully the Jeriminator will be back.
My sister had the Master System bundled with the 3D Glasses, and I thought there was a way to turn the 3D imaging on and off. You could do that with other games like Maze Hunter 3D.
I had the Sega 3D Glasses for the Master System and remember playing Zaxxon 3D. Unfortunately, the music and sound were horrendous with the PSG audio instead of FM.
That was one of the stinging points during the 8-bit console wars with the Sega kids, their 3D glasses were wickedly cool while Nintendo has paper crap...haha. I guess Nintendo would eventually win the home 3D crown with the 3DS.
The same 3D technology used in the PlayStation 3D Display in 2011. I have one of those. I think it might be the worst 3D technology, except for maybe the red and blue glasses.
I think it depends on what you're doing. Designing a game to use Chromadepth would probably be pretty rough.
Nothing is worse than the Virtual Boy.
Is there a DIY way to make compatible glasses? The original SEGA ones are expensive like crazy.
When I picked up my Master System I had enough birthday money for the version with the light phaser and two controllers. I did try to persuade my Dad that the 3D glasses pack would be awesome but he must have known 3D in gaming was a fad but let me down gently by saying "what do you want this for, these videos games are all a waste of money" thanks Dad.
My friend had the glasses and Zaxxon 3-D. The effect was not bad, as it looked like things were coming out past the boundries of the T V. Screen.
The thing that sucked was the headaches which I got everytime we fired it up.
Sadly, when I went to buy the system, games and glasses from him years later he trashed it.
He was an idiot who could not take care of games right. :(
Way back when I remember a friend of mine being over the moon about the 3D glasses with his SMS until I asked him how many games could he use them with. Then he moved on and we just played Double Dragon which again he was completely enamored with since it was a more faithful conversion of the arcade game than the NES version. I guess he felt he had to be overly enthusiastic about his SMS since he was the only kid at school that owned one vs dozens of kids that had a NES.
Even as a kid the idea of games in 3D or game consoles supporting 3D was never important to me. I've always been legally blind in my left eye so much like Jeremy said in this video if I were playing a game in 3D I would just end up closing my left eye so I could better concentrate with my right eye. The same was again true in the late 2000s/early 2010s when they were trying to again trying to push 3D in the movie theaters and with newer TVs.
At least the Sega 3-D Glasses were compatible with more games than Nintendo's R.O.B. Both accessories helped get attention for their consoles.
I wonder if emulators can use VR glasses to handle this game, after all they can do both stereoscopy and gun controls.
My friend had this, it was cool but the low refresh rate cause eye fatigue and usually left me with a headache
Kinda surprised you didn’t mention the polarized lense method of 3d movies which was available even in the late fifties and early sixties
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@Jeremy Parish | Video Works Gotta save it for when SNESworks gets up to Jim Power.
@@JeremyParish True 'nuff! Your videos are about video games, not movie history after all. :)
TBH, I was always jealous of people who had the Vectrex 3D goggles and later anyone who had this Master System thing. I had the silly red/blue cardboard glasses for Rad Racer and 3D World Runner and they didn't work well and made me sad.
Some of the 3d games can be played in 2d with weird button inputs or the like. You may need a third arm for a few iirc.
I vaguely recall an emulator adding experimental support for using a VR headset for the sega 3D games. I cannot find it, I’m sure someone can.
Has anyone seen mark cerney and Dana carvey in the same place at the same time?
I wonder whatever happened to that Mark Cerny guy. After a commercial failure like the 3D goggles, I bet he was kicked out of the industry and is now an insurance salesman in Omaha or something.
The VCO Object graphics are so weirdly dirty looking, with the sprites' DPI being out of sync with their surroundings.
Tried blinking one eye 60 times per minute while watching to get the proper effect, because weirdo
Next time I’ll go 144Hz
I completely DISAGREE with you on this. Missile Defense 3D is one of the core reasons to OWN a Sega Master System. Its has a Fantastic 3d experience that is only sort of matched by Maze Hunter 3D. The games may be short... but they are very intense, and take a lot of developed skill to keep going. And as far as Aiming goes... you are also wrong about that too. 99% of Lightgun games are NOT designed for "Sighting" down the barrel... because these games move way too fast. Sighting, is for "SNIPER" type of games. If you were a cop that walked into a Bank robbery... and there were 5 dudes that you needed to take out ASAP... you would NEVER aim with a single Eye, down the Sight. You shoot from where your arms are pointed, without the sight. Otherwise, it would take WAY too long to aim... and you would end up Eating Lead.
Heck... there is a famous Fast-Draw Sharp Shooter, that can draw... fire two bullets, hit one target twice (or two different targets), and put the gun back in the holster, in less than a single second of time. Its so fast, that they had to use high speed cameras to even SEE both shots being fired.. because it doesnt even seem humanly possible. He fires both shots "From the HIP" (without visual sight aim, and without extending his arms fully away from his body). This in one reason why his shots are so damn fast.
Now, here is the thing... Missile Defense 3D is a fantastic 3D experience... but... Its still not as FUN as "Shooting Gallery". Shooting Gallery, is in fact, one of my all-time favorite lightgun games of All time... beating out every Arcade gun game that Ive ever played. Its faster, far more challenging, and is Super fun + Super Addictive. If Shooting Gallery had stereoscopic 3D, it would be even more amazing... merely for the depth experience (someone, please make a Stereo 3D Conversion of it!).
Maze Hunter 3D, is, from my personal experience, the only other 3D SMS game worthy of replay. It is a little slow in gameplay... but the cool visual experience is worth it.
I also owned Blade Eagle 3D... but that game was hard as balls... and the 3D effect was mostly wasted... because much of it was in the black of outer-space, where you didnt experience much depth.
I almost purchased Outrun 3D... but it was so expensive at the time... and I already owned Outrun for the SMS... and wasnt a fan of how poorly that it looked, and ran. It was a huge let down, compared to the Arcade version, that I loved. I also assumed that if Outrun was any slower (due to having to split its frames between two eyes), it would be even more Unplayable that it already was.
I also never really cared for Space Harrier as a game... and my brother already owned that for the SMS... so again, I skipped it. Especially because I believe they altered the games graphics, rather than just converting the original version.
Ive played Zaxxson 3D in an emulator... and the gameplay and graphics looked awful. I dont think 3D would have saved that game. Though, I did enjoy the arcade versions of Zaxxon / Super-Zaxxon. Had they been able to keep the 3ths perspective, but in stereo 3D... now that would have been cool. Instead, this looked like a very bad and rushed Prototype, that wasnt any fun, IMO.
Now... as far as the best Stereoscopic 3D game that Ive every experienced in my life? That goes to an arcade game called "Continental Circus 3D". A decent F1 racing game, which I believe was by Taito. Its OK, in 2d mode... but in Stereo 3D mode... its flipping fantastic. There are Spoilers, Tires, and other various parts / pieces + smoke trails... that are flying out of the screen at you, every 40 seconds or so. Its amazing.
I was partially able to experience this game again, by running it in mame (emulator), turning on the 3D mode (F2?)... and firing up my Sega Master system with a 3d game + wearing the 3d Glasses. Sadly.. the glasses do not fully Sync up with the PC monitor... and so you only get to see part of the 3d effect, and part of it distorts.. But even then, when things align... it looks fantastic. Maybe there is an Emulator out there, that can use VR Glasses, to be able to experience this and other 3D games, properly.
Im going to add... that Old Sega 3D glasses... often have two main issues: 1) At least one of the Ear-Arms on them, are often broken. 2) There appears to be a small resister or capacitor? In the center of the glasses... that seems to degrade over time. If and when that happens.. the 3D effect will not be Precise.. and things wont be as deep and clear, if it works at all. There was another (superior) 3D shutter glass paid that people were recommending, that used to be for another system or PC. I cant recall. All I know, is that it was even more affordable, and it worked even better than the original pair (an even brighter picture to boot). A lot of my stuff is still in storage, and I dont currently have easy access to it... let alone, know if you can still get hold of those same glasses these days. I believe I had got mine from Ebay auctions. Of course, if you dont have the SMS Card that the glasses plug into... then forget about it.
Of course, you are going to need an old CRT TV, to use these devices. Note, that the larger the Display size... the greater the 3D effect that is possible. Where a 15 inch monitor might allow for an object to extend about 3 to 4 inches out of the screen... a 25" monitor... might allow for 6 to 7 inches of "Floating" out of the screen (depending on how big the object size is, and how the game was programmed in its 3D Scaling). Also, while the SMS 3D Glasses Dim the overall brightness... you could always counter than, by cranking your CRTs brightness and contrast levels.
As someone who regularly needs to get the maximum possible size for hats, I think this one's a pass for me...
"Some Random Old Dudes, I Dunno" for Reagan and Gorbachev got a big laugh from me.
But you look so petite in your avatar!
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BTW you cover lots of third generation games. Is there any reason why you're not covering the Atari 7800? I know it's your channel and it's impossible to cover everything.
Also you delve into the second generation with the SG1000, but not cover Colecovision or the Atari 5200.
I guess you're emphasizing Nintendo and Sega more because Atari is not culturally contiguous between the 7800 days and today, and Coleco was mainly a company that converted others' arcade games for their system. Coleco was not a game designing company, but mainly a conversion programming house.
Or maybe you and your circle of friends were not into the Atari systems at that time.
I had a rare childhood where as an NES guy, I had (and still have) 1 friend with an SMS and another with a 7800 back in the day.
I've covered just about all of the 7800 chronology through the end of 1988, though? Not sure why you're suggesting otherwise.
@@JeremyParish because I noticed the titles of your items all contain pertain to NES and SMS.
Maybe your title list have only have recently covered topics and maybe you had a specific 7800 video that's very old or maybe you interspersed 7800 information with your NES and SMS conversations.
By the way, I'm kind of new to your Channel. And the 3D episode got me into your list. So is just off first impressions of seeing your episode list and watching the 3d glasses episode. If my first impressions were wrong, I'm sorry. I understand everyone has their own perspective and no one individual perspective 100 percent overlaps with another not even between very close friends. I was just going off your episode list in the one episode I saw so far.
I see… do a channel search for 7800 and you will like the results.
It do what nintendont lol
Forced 3D games are the bane of my existence...