Well done report. It shows the real challenges of building a force in 3rd edition, but also really reveals the fast pace of the game with the new rules.
I wouldn't like to repeat what other guys have already said but great report! I just got into the Bolt Action and this was very fun and also instructive to watch. Greetings from Poland!
Thank you, we had fun with the scenario and the new rules, it does speed the game up and reduces the number of calculations needed to hit a small team, long range, move, inexperienced… much simpler now 😁
Best Bolt Action channel out there! Why? Beautiful miniatures Well thought out armies Fantastic Mission (The objective is not some random piece of ground by a marker.) And excellent camaraderie in the gameplay Keep up the good work
Thank you for such great feedback! Really appreciate it 👍🏻 Glad you enjoyed it, I had to edit nearly 2 hrs of banter out otherwise the video would have been enormous! Maybe in future I should do some out takes 😜😂🤣 Thanks again 👍🏻
Yes you are correct we did them after hits were achieved not when damage was achieved, will change for next time. We did another thing wrong in that there is no +2 cover save for being down when the firer is within short range of you. So shooting from close range is deadly and better then assaulting. This makes being in ambush for the defender much more important.
Great game with some epic dice rolling from Dan! This is the third game I've watched on various UK TH-cam channels and it seems to me (observing anyway) that V3 is a faster flowing game. Looking forward to picking up the rules at the #warlordgames open day :-)
Yes, it flows much better and is faster! We liked it. If your at Warlord open day there are some demo games, looking forward to going next weekend too 👍🏻
Great BatRap, My friend and I are just getting into playing, but if other TT games have taught us anything it's that we dive in head first. So I have to ask, where is your terrain from?
@@TheJaydee327 Hi, thanks for the comment, it’s always appreciated 👍🏻 We have a mix from Sarissa Precision, Micro Arts Studio and a few from eBay independents that we have rendered and painted… helps with the variety on the table. 👍🏻
@@stevejones5824 yes that is correct and has been mentioned before, in essence this was us running through the rules and having fun with them. Hope you enjoyed it regardless, but at least we learnt that rule from this game 👍🏻
@@timothysmith6211 Hi, thanks for the comment, it’s always appreciated and glad you enjoyed it 👍🏻 We have a mix from Sarissa Precision, Micro Arts Studio and a few from eBay independents that we have rendered and painted… helps with the variety on the table
Yes - this was highlighted in other comments, the heavy weapon shouldn’t have been there in the first place as no tow, so shouldn’t have altered the game, thanks
Can't claim to know Bolt Action rules but great entertainment, love the table. Hard to criticise respective tactics when the dice results can be so random .
Thank you, yes both the mechanics of the game AND the random dice rolling can really change a game! Glad you enjoyed it, we have another game tomorrow 👍🏻
@@theministryofminiatures Thanks for the response. Along with Basement 1908 you remain a must watch Channel. Looking forward to your next presentation .
Great scenario.... with lovely terrain, figures and good commentary as usual. Well done, always a pleasure to watch. Very decent selections for the American side. Absolutely dreadful for the Germans. U could see from your selection and set up that you had no chance of achieving any of your aims. I think that you were caught up in selecting all the toys... Apologies for the harshness.
The 'Toys' work better in games with little terrain, from some of the youtube videos I watch about the battles in Normandy what happened in this game is very similar to what actually happened.
Rick does like his toys, and they look great too… but for the scenario it probably doesn’t help, although, I probably would’ve punched into the centre with the tracked vehicles and use the arty to punish any US coming in, but that’s the beauty of hindsight. Was a fun yet challenging game, just glad the US won 👍🏻😉
It was a great game, the German ‘toys’ looked awesome, and kept us hiding behind the walls and buildings right til the end and having to use our strengths to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat… fortunately a victory for the Allies!
Yay! Welcome and thanks for the comment 👍🏻 Glad you enjoyed the battle, plenty more to come. The scenery is from a mix: Sarissa Precision, Micro Art studios and some independent retailers on ebay.
Thanks for the comment, much appreciated. The leader tabs were bought online but the manufacturer doesn’t do them anymore. I have been told that there are similar from: www.charliefoxtrotmodels.com/products/one-man-25mm-skirmish-movement-tray-pack-of-5?_pos=5&_sid=909e02eee&_ss=r
It’s a great game, ideally see if there is anyone nearby that is also into it as this will give you an opponent and someone to bounce ideas off… not to mention it’s easier to build up scenery when the are a fee people pulling together. I might to a beginners guide to Bolt Action 3.0 video. Good luck with your journey 👍🏻
Hi, thank you for the comment, glad you enjoyed it and it’s always appreciated 👍🏻 We have a mix from Sarissa Precision, Micro Arts Studio and a few from eBay independents that we have rendered and painted… helps with the variety on the table! Thanks again 👍🏻
Hi, thanks for the comment, it’s always appreciated 👍🏻 We have a mix from Sarissa Precision, Micro Arts Studio and a few from eBay independents that we have rendered and painted… helps with the variety on the table.
Hi, thanks for the comment, it’s always appreciated 👍🏻 We have a mix from Sarissa Precision, Micro Arts Studio and a few from eBay independents that we have rendered and painted… helps with the variety on the table.
Nice looking game. Is there a summary of the rules changes anywhere because without explaining what the changes are it was kinda hard to follow what was going on. Gave up half way through TBH.
Unfortunately I don’t think there is. Ideally having the new rules helps, I am hoping a third party produces the cheat sheet I used to use with all the key details on it! Sorry you couldn’t follow the game, hopefully future games will be easier to follow.
@@theministryofminiatures no problem. Bit tired so that doesn’t help. Not really up to date with what the actual changes are so it became a bit of a blur. The type on the A5 rule book looks really tiny, too small for my eyes I think 🤣
Wow! Where did those buildings come from? I have a 3d printer and would love to get a hold of any STL files that can make these? Side note: Super disappointed on the cost of the panzerfausts. I would have been open to 10 points but not 15 points for a one shot weapon.
Thank you, Rick shares your view on the panzerfausts… however, it is much easier to hit and they can be used as HE (which is deadly) against troops in buildings, I think it just means they need to be rationed 😉 The buildings are all mdf - we don’t have a 3D printer, keep thinking about it but it all about time and money… one day 🤞🏻 Hope you find some as there are some very nice STLs around. Thanks again for your comment
Yes, we use Sarissa Precession too, but they take time to paint up. Mainly Micro Arts Studio which can be purchased from Warlord Games, and if you use our affiliate code it helps the channel out a little too! r.warlordgames.com/aff/?MINISTRYOFMINIATURES
V3 gun shield is from small arms offering soft cover saves. No cover from heavy weapons, close quarters and any attack that ignores cover saves (mortars etc)
Stunning terrain as usual, would love to know how you put it all together and painted it. I recently got a warlord ruined hamlet box and have been hesitating to paint the plaster and stone bits after an initial dry brush - any tips?
For stone work rather then painting grey, shading and dry brushing, try a different approach. Try base coating say sandy or mid grey colour then use a foam (which comes with warlord figures and dice) to dab on different shades of the base coat getting lighter each time. Then shade with a wash. Use enamels to add brown washes to wall bases, this allows you to 'wash' out tide lines with a solvent. Add green and brown stains in enamels again to represent dirt and moss stains, again washing out heavy areas.
@@rickfryer2934 @rickfryer2934 Cheers Rick that seems like brilliant advice and will give it a go. Thanks for taking the time to write back. I'd watch the video tutorials if you made them :)
Looks like part of it is Sarissa Precision and part of it is Micro Art Studio. Both are fantastic products, but definitely recommend glueing in a well ventilated room.
Thanks for the comment. As I understand it there are no cover saves against HE in a building, the troops can go down to half the hits… this is part of the reason panzerfausts are much better now! However as it was indirect we probably should’ve rolled for each floor to see where the shell exploded. Thanks
Nice table, great game.However, I think you're playing the cover saves wrong -- point blank nullifies the down cover save. So at the end everyone shot at in point blank does not get cover by being down.
The company I used no longer does them… however I have seen similar here: www.charliefoxtrotmodels.com/products/one-man-25mm-skirmish-movement-tray-pack-of-5?_pos=5&_sid=909e02eee&_ss=r
Reading the rules carefully you do get a cover save if you are in cover, but going down does not give you a +2 on the save. Of course I was in the open so I should have had no cover saves at all.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it, we did too…. Great new rules 👍🏻 The buildings are a mix of Sarissa Precision, Micro Arts Studio and some ebay sellers. Thanks 👍🏻
Thanks, we enjoyed the game. The mdf bases fir the name tags were bought online, but the company doesn’t exist any more… I keep looking for someone to create new ones as they are useful for Sharp Practice etc. too. Glad you enjoyed the game👍🏻
Beautiful minis and terrain. Question: I thought tanks could not fire both their main gun and MGs at the same time. Did this rule change in 3rd edition?
Hi, thanks for the comment. Most tanks have several options to fire, the Shermans have a main gun and co axial, one or the other can fire and they also have an MMG in the hull… some can take machine guns on the turret, but that leaves you open topped. This is the same as in 2ndEd. Some tanks may have one or the other, main gun or coax depending on their profile. Hope this helps?
Thank you, we really enjoyed 3rd Edition. The board is 6x4ft, the table is longer which is why there is space for figures and bits at the end. Cheers 👍🏻
@@asowle it will come, just build your collection slowly and find others with a similar mindset who can pull together to put bits on the table, good luck 👍🏻
Sherman took a pin from 20mm cannon or Coax? Can the 20mm firing HE (I think he said HE) penetrate the front of a Sherman? If not, doesn't a Regular tank ignore fire that can't penetrate it?
In real life, getting hit repeatedly by 20mm rounds would still scare the beans out of you, even in a Sherman. Can’t tell where the fire is coming from or its calibre. Many recorded cases of crews baling out in such circumstances.
@@theministryofminiatures - Well, of course at the end of the day it’s just about having fun, but miniature gaming is essentially all about realism and “immersion” and feeling you’re actually there without, of course, taking the risks!
Indeed, I always think of Chain of Command as the more realistic game for WW2, I like it also, but there is more to it. Both are great games depending on what you’re looking to play.
Yes, I think that’s correct if taking the heavy auto cannon, I think Rick was running or thought it was light? …although if it was heavy then it probably shouldn’t have been there in the first place without a tow, good to know though as adds some benefit to the heavy auto cannon, it would have been a glancing shot 👍🏻
Thank you. I use my iphone to record, edit, upload and put everything into TH-cam! It isn’t easy, but it works… each video takes 6-8hrs to set up, record and the edit/upload too!
I know, some are easier than others, but I enjoy sharing our games. I need to buy some Bluetooth microphones for better audio, but all in good time 👍🏻 Thanks again for your comment!
3 MG at Wolf around 39 min from the Sherman tank should be 2 MG. COAX has to shoot at same target as the cannon. Two MG can shoot at separate targets in their arc of fire. Someone else note this?
for infantry i thought that if you had more pins than bodies in a unit that it is an auto break? so at 1.06 when the rangers shot up the german unit and they had one survivor. should he not have to flee because of the two pins on him?
@rickfryer2934 thanks for answering, I think Chain of Command has the rule where if you have more pins than the number of guys you run, making smaller teams very vulnerable. Bolt Action however is based on more pins than the unit morale.
This is a good query. its clear with howitzers as there are light, medium and heavy howitzers. But with auto cannon there is no medium auto cannon. So an 88 is a heavy or very heavy flak gun. But is a heavy auto cannon really a medium flak gun. Looking in the book where the gun appears in the Luftwaffe section it does not say whether the gun is considerd light, medium or heavy. So if it is heavy I could not move it, which means the Sherman did not destroy it so no eigth kill, so game was a draw.
@@rickfryer2934My understanding is that light Auto cannons fall under light artillery and heavy auto cannons fall under heavy artillery (or heavy 'guns' as V2 referred to them I believe)...would be great to know, as I regularly use the flakswilling, and would love to move it around the battlefield to stop pesky mortars trying to range in haha or get a side shot on a dakka Stuart 😂
I think time will tell, but some changes do seem unfair… however, it is much easier to hit, so the panzerfausts will have a better chance of hitting and taking out a 2-300 point tank no problem, so a slight points increase is justified. We will See with the other rules, I fear Rick will buy another 3 Howling cows for a complete rocket platoon 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥 🤣😂 We did say, 3rd edition lends itself to agreeing before the game where it’s historical or gamey so that it’s a fairer fight… Good luck 🤞🏻
Alaska Gen-X wargaming club. house rule (late war/ and konflict '47) : assault rifles are default. if 8 man unit, and AR cost 6 pts each, then the total cost of the unit of bolt action rifles, is discounted by 48 pts. the default rifle cost, is our default assault rifle cost, same with smgs. we are more concerned with order die.... limit of 25 per side, unless on campaign, then we use bolt action 'apocalypse' rules.
Hi, thanks for the comment and interesting point about house rules! Maybe something we could look into once we have played a few more v3 games… but ideally I want to try to stick as much as possible to RAW… but I like the concept of your house rules 👍🏻
@@theministryofminiatures RAW does have its place. were a club of old guys that have known each other for years, decades. thats when house rules shine. for us, the point limit is a general guideline. the use of the assault rifle as the base is to allow one person to maximize the rough limit without exceeding it. but i guess a rebate really isnt too different from an increase. if we were playing non club members, wed use the standard rules as a default. truth is, none of the kids want to play at the grandpas table, and we dont want the whippersnappers so it all works out. long winters make for long games, campaigns rather than one offs... but hey, as long as you are having fun how you play, then you are doing it the right way, raw or not. happy gaming
I know the feeling, our club games are very different from general games… and none of us are young, so having a good experience with a fun game is worth its weight in gold.
Bizarre that you’re building infantry sections based on points rather than using actual historical organisations. Strange set of rules that allows you to eliminate SMGs and Panzerfausts to ‘game’ the system. 🤦
Indeed it is a game, you can go for more historically accurate if you wish, or amend the units to fit with your play style or the points you have. I have heard it described as Hollywood wargaming, but I am happy with it being easy and fun to play 👍🏻
@@theministryofminiatures - As you said in another thread, it’s all about fun at the end of the day. Some people dislike points-based games to an almost fetishistic level. Points don’t bother me personally and I think they’re a useful tool to balance opponents, but there’s got to be some degree of reality mirroring or the game just becomes fantasy. I’ve never got on with B.Action myself except as a way to get new players and kids interested, but was intrigued to see if the new edition has improved gameplay and realism.
@sirrathersplendid4825 exactly, George in our group simply refuses to play Bolt Action… he is the one who called in Hollywood wargaming, so he and I play Hail Caesar and Black Powder, which we thoroughly enjoy. I have given up trying to get him to play BA… I am now working on Chain of Command with him 👍🏻
@@theministryofminiatures - I have a few quibbles with CoC (on- and off-table mortars and sharing of casualties among bunched groups) but hear these issues are being addressed in the 2nd edition, which might just be out for Christmas. Hope George likes the gameplay!
Loved the report. Way better than anything on TV. Great story and great times. Another great video for the record books. Keep them coming my friends.
Thank you! Really appreciate your comment and kind words, really does help us to know we are doing something right 👍🏻
Huge thanks.
Well done report. It shows the real challenges of building a force in 3rd edition, but also really reveals the fast pace of the game with the new rules.
Thank you, we really appreciate the comment and agree it’s a fun and is also faster paced game 👍🏻
I wouldn't like to repeat what other guys have already said but great report! I just got into the Bolt Action and this was very fun and also instructive to watch. Greetings from Poland!
Thank you and glad you liked it 👍🏻
Great looking table, great looking minis!
Thank you, we had fun with the scenario and the new rules, it does speed the game up and reduces the number of calculations needed to hit a small team, long range, move, inexperienced… much simpler now 😁
Great table. I just got into Bolt Action about 2 months ago. What a time to get into it.
Welcome! Enjoy the game it’s great!
A Fantastic table and the battle report was gritty and interesting.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it 👍🏻
Love the board you set up
Thank you! Another battle report coming this weekend👍🏻
My favorite channel. Tha ks for the report.
HUGE THANK YOU 👍🏻
Great job guys 🍻
Thank you - we quite enjoyed the new rules, hopefully you do too, need to watch your latest 👍🏻
Thanks from me too, always love watching your games.
Indeed, a great channel 👍🏻
Fantastic 3rd edition battle report!!! The game is fast flowing, the miniatures excellent painting, and the whole production awesome 👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you, really appreciate the positive feedback, helps us know we are doing a good job.
Cheers 👍🏻
Great battle rep as always. V3 here we come.
Thanks- we really enjoyed it and thought 3rd Edition had some really positive changes, although Rick didn’t like all the changes 😂😜
Best Bolt Action channel out there!
Why?
Beautiful miniatures
Well thought out armies
Fantastic Mission (The objective is not some random piece of ground by a marker.)
And excellent camaraderie in the gameplay
Keep up the good work
Thank you for such great feedback! Really appreciate it 👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed it, I had to edit nearly 2 hrs of banter out otherwise the video would have been enormous! Maybe in future I should do some out takes 😜😂🤣
Thanks again 👍🏻
6:37 That Guy Means Business! Love it!
Haha! Yes Rick loves to maximise what he can take and boy does he!
They also look cool too 👌🏻
Cool battle report. 👍
Thank you, we should have more coming soon.
Thanks again for the comment 👍🏻
ngl, I'm mostly staring at the beautiful table you guys set up!
Thank you 👍🏻
Great looking table gents! Just got the email from Warlord saying my book (and some U.S. winter troops) are on their way.
Thank you and fantastic news, can’t wait to get my book too!
Enjoy the new rules 👍🏻
great terrain setup
Thank you 👍🏻
Nice battrep. The only thing you were doing wrong is taking cover saves before taking damage. Cheers.
Thanks, much appreciated. I’ll re-read that bit to make sure it’s correct next time… cheers 👍🏻
Yes you are correct we did them after hits were achieved not when damage was achieved, will change for next time. We did another thing wrong in that there is no +2 cover save for being down when the firer is within short range of you. So shooting from close range is deadly and better then assaulting. This makes being in ambush for the defender much more important.
@rickfryer2934 thanks Rick, definitely need to remember these, that could be significant in a game.
Great game with some epic dice rolling from Dan! This is the third game I've watched on various UK TH-cam channels and it seems to me (observing anyway) that V3 is a faster flowing game. Looking forward to picking up the rules at the #warlordgames open day :-)
Yes, it flows much better and is faster! We liked it.
If your at Warlord open day there are some demo games, looking forward to going next weekend too 👍🏻
I'll try and join one of the demo game tables while I'm there.
@muckmirrors2512 good plan 👍🏻
Great report and looking minis & table! If I remember you can't get cover saves from down if shooting is within point-blank.
Yes, that is correct… and makes sense really! 👍🏻
congratulations on 3k subscriptions
Thank you! We have smashed it this weekend 😁
Great BatRap, My friend and I are just getting into playing, but if other TT games have taught us anything it's that we dive in head first. So I have to ask, where is your terrain from?
@@TheJaydee327 Hi, thanks for the comment, it’s always appreciated 👍🏻
We have a mix from Sarissa Precision, Micro Arts Studio and a few from eBay independents that we have rendered and painted… helps with the variety on the table.
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@@theministryofminiatures Thanks for the Tips!
@TheJaydee327 you’re welcome, happy Wargaming 👍🏻
Woo hoo! Survived and got a win!
Yes! It was a good one… and most survived.
Glad you enjoyed it and thank you for your support 👍🏻
At 1:06:34 and 1:08:25 - If you are at point blank range it ignores DOWN - so no cover save...
@@stevejones5824 yes that is correct and has been mentioned before, in essence this was us running through the rules and having fun with them.
Hope you enjoyed it regardless, but at least we learnt that rule from this game 👍🏻
amazing looking table, where are the buildings from?
@@timothysmith6211 Hi, thanks for the comment, it’s always appreciated and glad you enjoyed it 👍🏻
We have a mix from Sarissa Precision, Micro Arts Studio and a few from eBay independents that we have rendered and painted… helps with the variety on the table
Command vehicle took 2 pins but passed and eliminated both. Hit by heavy weapon that can penetrate you is a pin plus the damage added another pin.
Yes - this was highlighted in other comments, the heavy weapon shouldn’t have been there in the first place as no tow, so shouldn’t have altered the game, thanks
Can't claim to know Bolt Action rules but great entertainment, love the table. Hard to criticise respective tactics when the dice results can be so random .
Thank you, yes both the mechanics of the game AND the random dice rolling can really change a game!
Glad you enjoyed it, we have another game tomorrow 👍🏻
@@theministryofminiatures Thanks for the response. Along with Basement 1908 you remain a must watch Channel. Looking forward to your next presentation .
HUGE THANK YOU!!!
You mentioned been able to move the twin flak unit , in V2 it would need a tow ,has this changed?
This has already been raised in the comments and a debate as to the ruling on whether it is heavy or not… short of it is it probably does need a tow.
Great scenario.... with lovely terrain, figures and good commentary as usual. Well done, always a pleasure to watch. Very decent selections for the American side. Absolutely dreadful for the Germans. U could see from your selection and set up that you had no chance of achieving any of your aims. I think that you were caught up in selecting all the toys... Apologies for the harshness.
The 'Toys' work better in games with little terrain, from some of the youtube videos I watch about the battles in Normandy what happened in this game is very similar to what actually happened.
Rick does like his toys, and they look great too… but for the scenario it probably doesn’t help, although, I probably would’ve punched into the centre with the tracked vehicles and use the arty to punish any US coming in, but that’s the beauty of hindsight.
Was a fun yet challenging game, just glad the US won 👍🏻😉
It was a great game, the German ‘toys’ looked awesome, and kept us hiding behind the walls and buildings right til the end and having to use our strengths to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat… fortunately a victory for the Allies!
A big hello from Brazil! Awesome game! Where is the scenery from? Thanks and keep these great videos coming 😀
Yay! Welcome and thanks for the comment 👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed the battle, plenty more to come.
The scenery is from a mix: Sarissa Precision, Micro Art studios and some independent retailers on ebay.
Great table! May I inquire as to where you got the little named leader stands?
Thanks for the comment, much appreciated.
The leader tabs were bought online but the manufacturer doesn’t do them anymore. I have been told that there are similar from:
www.charliefoxtrotmodels.com/products/one-man-25mm-skirmish-movement-tray-pack-of-5?_pos=5&_sid=909e02eee&_ss=r
Really playing with the idea of getting into bolt action
It’s a great game, ideally see if there is anyone nearby that is also into it as this will give you an opponent and someone to bounce ideas off… not to mention it’s easier to build up scenery when the are a fee people pulling together.
I might to a beginners guide to Bolt Action 3.0 video.
Good luck with your journey 👍🏻
Awesome battle report! Where did you get the building terrain?
Hi, thank you for the comment, glad you enjoyed it and it’s always appreciated 👍🏻
We have a mix from Sarissa Precision, Micro Arts Studio and a few from eBay independents that we have rendered and painted… helps with the variety on the table!
Thanks again 👍🏻
Great channel. Where did you get the mat from? Terrain from warlord, but the base mat?
Thank you.
The mat is from Deep Cut Studio, it’s the mouse mat version, very sturdy and rolls straight out.
@ amazing - just to be a bit annoying - which one of the designs was it?
@Sea_and_Jelly no problem… I think, but not 100% that it is the 6x4 Plains mouse mat material.
@ amazing - thank you.
@Sea_and_Jelly your welcome 👍🏻
where can I find those roads?
Fat Franks on ebay, very nice, reasonably priced and flexible too. Let them know we sent you! 👍🏻
@@theministryofminiatures Thank you so much! I'll let him know!
Where did you get the buildings from ?
Hi, thanks for the comment, it’s always appreciated 👍🏻
We have a mix from Sarissa Precision, Micro Arts Studio and a few from eBay independents that we have rendered and painted… helps with the variety on the table.
@theministryofminiatures cheers. Just got a few starter sets and need some 28mm buildings
Good luck, slow and steady, also if you find other like minded people that helps too 👍🏻
Wow awesome board, where do you get the buildings from?
Thank you, the buildings are from
Micro Arts Studio: store.warlordgames.com/MINISTRYOFMINIATURES
Sarissa Precision and ebay
collabs.shop/451u5x
Note the turret rotation is limited to ? degrees. Not sure you took that into account?
Why limited?
Great game guys and awesome table. Where did you get the buildings?
Hi, thanks for the comment, it’s always appreciated 👍🏻
We have a mix from Sarissa Precision, Micro Arts Studio and a few from eBay independents that we have rendered and painted… helps with the variety on the table.
Great bat rep thank you. Can I ask where all the terrain is from? The board looks amazing and goes a long way to really draw you in.
Thank you for watching.
The mat is from Deep Cut Studio, the buildings are from Sarissa Precision and Micro Art Studios.
Hope this helps?
Thanks again
Nice looking game. Is there a summary of the rules changes anywhere because without explaining what the changes are it was kinda hard to follow what was going on. Gave up half way through TBH.
Unfortunately I don’t think there is. Ideally having the new rules helps, I am hoping a third party produces the cheat sheet I used to use with all the key details on it!
Sorry you couldn’t follow the game, hopefully future games will be easier to follow.
@@theministryofminiatures no problem. Bit tired so that doesn’t help. Not really up to date with what the actual changes are so it became a bit of a blur. The type on the A5 rule book looks really tiny, too small for my eyes I think 🤣
I know the feeling! I am waiting for my bigger book 🤞🏻
Wow! Where did those buildings come from? I have a 3d printer and would love to get a hold of any STL files that can make these? Side note: Super disappointed on the cost of the panzerfausts. I would have been open to 10 points but not 15 points for a one shot weapon.
Thank you, Rick shares your view on the panzerfausts… however, it is much easier to hit and they can be used as HE (which is deadly) against troops in buildings, I think it just means they need to be rationed 😉
The buildings are all mdf - we don’t have a 3D printer, keep thinking about it but it all about time and money… one day 🤞🏻
Hope you find some as there are some very nice STLs around.
Thanks again for your comment
Beautifull terrain, most of them are from Warlord?
Yes, we use Sarissa Precession too, but they take time to paint up. Mainly Micro Arts Studio which can be purchased from Warlord Games, and if you use our affiliate code it helps the channel out a little too!
r.warlordgames.com/aff/?MINISTRYOFMINIATURES
Another question, in V2 a gun shield did not give protection if the attack had a pen value?
V3 gun shield is from small arms offering soft cover saves.
No cover from heavy weapons, close quarters and any attack that ignores cover saves (mortars etc)
Stunning terrain as usual, would love to know how you put it all together and painted it. I recently got a warlord ruined hamlet box and have been hesitating to paint the plaster and stone bits after an initial dry brush - any tips?
For stone work rather then painting grey, shading and dry brushing, try a different approach. Try base coating say sandy or mid grey colour then use a foam (which comes with warlord figures and dice) to dab on different shades of the base coat getting lighter each time. Then shade with a wash. Use enamels to add brown washes to wall bases, this allows you to 'wash' out tide lines with a solvent. Add green and brown stains in enamels again to represent dirt and moss stains, again washing out heavy areas.
Washes are good, you can use green to show damp, brown and blacks for wear or damage.
Ricks comments are great 👍🏻
Thanks 👍🏻
@@rickfryer2934 @rickfryer2934 Cheers Rick that seems like brilliant advice and will give it a go. Thanks for taking the time to write back. I'd watch the video tutorials if you made them :)
Looks like part of it is Sarissa Precision and part of it is Micro Art Studio. Both are fantastic products, but definitely recommend glueing in a well ventilated room.
Where did you get the physical explosion from? Was thinking might get some funkier looking pin markers then saw these!
Thanks, I made them out of old bits of sprue and bits of blended foam, lots of glue to hold
Them in place !
Also… Warlord do some Cruel Seas explosions I also use.
Awesome thank you sir
No problem 👍🏻
Are there no cover saves for men in buildings against preliminary bombardment? Nice batrep!!
Thanks for the comment. As I understand it there are no cover saves against HE in a building, the troops can go down to half the hits… this is part of the reason panzerfausts are much better now!
However as it was indirect we probably should’ve rolled for each floor to see where the shell exploded.
Thanks
Nice table, great game.However, I think you're playing the cover saves wrong -- point blank nullifies the down cover save. So at the end everyone shot at in point blank does not get cover by being down.
Thanks 👍🏻
This has been picked up in the comments already but thanks for your feedback
Hi MoM, where did you get the ‘name’ Commander bases from? Thanks in advance!
The company I used no longer does them… however I have seen similar here:
www.charliefoxtrotmodels.com/products/one-man-25mm-skirmish-movement-tray-pack-of-5?_pos=5&_sid=909e02eee&_ss=r
@@theministryofminiatures Many thanks!
@migsterman67 no problem, they are quite handy 👍🏻
One question: shooting in close quarter, do the defender have cover saves? I remember not..
You remember correctly, un like us 😂
Reading the rules carefully you do get a cover save if you are in cover, but going down does not give you a +2 on the save. Of course I was in the open so I should have had no cover saves at all.
@rickfryer2934 yes, that’s how I read it… which makes sense really 👍🏻
Moving through a Hedgerow does that affect movement?
No, tanks can go straight through, bocage on the other hand…
Really enjoyed watching this! May i ask where did you get your buildings from?
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it, we did too…. Great new rules 👍🏻
The buildings are a mix of Sarissa Precision, Micro Arts Studio and some ebay sellers.
Thanks 👍🏻
Nice report guys. Where are the leader name tags from the look useful?
Thanks, we enjoyed the game.
The mdf bases fir the name tags were bought online, but the company doesn’t exist any more… I keep looking for someone to create new ones as they are useful for Sharp Practice etc. too.
Glad you enjoyed the game👍🏻
@@theministryofminiatures cheers mate will hunt around, will let you know if I find any
@marksfishfrenzy please do, I still have a few, but not many!
Thank you 🙏
@@theministryofminiatures www.charliefoxtrotmodels.com/products/one-man-2p-skirmish-movement-tray-pack-of-5?_pos=14&_sid=7310a43d4&_ss=r
Brilliant! And a reliable company too 👍🏻
Thanks for sharing and well done on finding them!
Beautiful minis and terrain. Question: I thought tanks could not fire both their main gun and MGs at the same time. Did this rule change in 3rd edition?
Hi, thanks for the comment.
Most tanks have several options to fire, the Shermans have a main gun and co axial, one or the other can fire and they also have an MMG in the hull… some can take machine guns on the turret, but that leaves you open topped.
This is the same as in 2ndEd. Some tanks may have one or the other, main gun or coax depending on their profile.
Hope this helps?
Great presentation! The terrain is gorgeous! Where is it from?
Thank you! There is a mix of Sarissa Precision, Micro arts studio and some from ebay.
Warlord Games sell some of the at:
collabs.shop/451u5x
Amazing table and great game... how big is your table ?
Thank you, we really enjoyed 3rd Edition.
The board is 6x4ft, the table is longer which is why there is space for figures and bits at the end.
Cheers 👍🏻
@@theministryofminiatures Many thanks...it just looks "so big" but standard 6x4 so maybe one day mine will be as colourful as yours...
@@asowle it will come, just build your collection slowly and find others with a similar mindset who can pull together to put bits on the table, good luck 👍🏻
Sherman took a pin from 20mm cannon or Coax? Can the 20mm firing HE (I think he said HE) penetrate the front of a Sherman? If not, doesn't a Regular tank ignore fire that can't penetrate it?
Isn’t that only veteran?
In real life, getting hit repeatedly by 20mm rounds would still scare the beans out of you, even in a Sherman. Can’t tell where the fire is coming from or its calibre. Many recorded cases of crews baling out in such circumstances.
@sirrathersplendid4825 lucky this wasn’t real life 😅.
We had fun and a few laughs so we were happy with the game and happy to share it with others.
@@theministryofminiatures - Well, of course at the end of the day it’s just about having fun, but miniature gaming is essentially all about realism and “immersion” and feeling you’re actually there without, of course, taking the risks!
Indeed, I always think of Chain of Command as the more realistic game for WW2, I like it also, but there is more to it. Both are great games depending on what you’re looking to play.
Great report! One Q: should the heavy Flak gun have gotten a +1 to pen the Sherman at point blank? If so, i think it would have penned 😮
Yes, I think that’s correct if taking the heavy auto cannon, I think Rick was running or thought it was light? …although if it was heavy then it probably shouldn’t have been there in the first place without a tow, good to know though as adds some benefit to the heavy auto cannon, it would have been a glancing shot 👍🏻
Awesome batrep!
If you don't matter me asking, what camera are you using?
Thank you.
I use my iphone to record, edit, upload and put everything into TH-cam!
It isn’t easy, but it works… each video takes 6-8hrs to set up, record and the edit/upload too!
@@theministryofminiatures Wow, that's a lot of work! I think i'm happy just watching the videos of others, then 🤣
I know, some are easier than others, but I enjoy sharing our games.
I need to buy some Bluetooth microphones for better audio, but all in good time 👍🏻
Thanks again for your comment!
Neat buildings. Are the MDF or cardboard? I cant tell. Nice to see oddball units on the board
Thank you, the buildings are MDF 👍🏻
🎉very good.
Is the Mouse in the book?🤔👍🦆
Mouse? I was wondering what I had in the table that was a mouse!
The BIG German tank is 👍🏻
@@theministryofminiatures o yes big German tank .
sorry lol
Yea… it’s in the book 😉
😮🤫 mum's the word👍🦆
I think they are happy people talking about it now 😉😁🤣
3 MG at Wolf around 39 min from the Sherman tank should be 2 MG. COAX has to shoot at same target as the cannon. Two MG can shoot at separate targets in their arc of fire. Someone else note this?
The mg has 3 shots. We shot use hull and coax so can shoot at separate targets. We discussed but didn’t shoot the canon
for infantry i thought that if you had more pins than bodies in a unit that it is an auto break? so at 1.06 when the rangers shot up the german unit and they had one survivor. should he not have to flee because of the two pins on him?
This is not correct, you rout when your number of pins equals your morale value, e.g 9 for regular.
@rickfryer2934 thanks for answering, I think Chain of Command has the rule where if you have more pins than the number of guys you run, making smaller teams very vulnerable.
Bolt Action however is based on more pins than the unit morale.
Heavy flak guns cannot move without a tow
I believe Rick said it was not heavy, but the lighter version in the description.
This is a good query. its clear with howitzers as there are light, medium and heavy howitzers. But with auto cannon there is no medium auto cannon. So an 88 is a heavy or very heavy flak gun. But is a heavy auto cannon really a medium flak gun. Looking in the book where the gun appears in the Luftwaffe section it does not say whether the gun is considerd light, medium or heavy. So if it is heavy I could not move it, which means the Sherman did not destroy it so no eigth kill, so game was a draw.
@rickfryer2934 lol, nice try… 🤣
The sherman would have found another juicy target! 👍🏻🤣😁
@@rickfryer2934My understanding is that light Auto cannons fall under light artillery and heavy auto cannons fall under heavy artillery (or heavy 'guns' as V2 referred to them I believe)...would be great to know, as I regularly use the flakswilling, and would love to move it around the battlefield to stop pesky mortars trying to range in haha or get a side shot on a dakka Stuart 😂
@@zachariahbrian good point, so the only way to be sure is for me to take a tow next time.
Hi guys I noticed you were only rolling 3 dice for the medium machine guns from the shermans...should you not be rolling more dice?
No, third edition sees vehicles having their machine gun fire rate cut by 50% so this is correct…. It prevents the use of the good old Dakka tanks!
I believe they've nerfed the Germans a little too hard. Costs have rocketed for them.
I think time will tell, but some changes do seem unfair… however, it is much easier to hit, so the panzerfausts will have a better chance of hitting and taking out a 2-300 point tank no problem, so a slight points increase is justified.
We will
See with the other rules, I fear Rick will buy another 3 Howling cows for a complete rocket platoon 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
🤣😂
We did say, 3rd edition lends itself to agreeing before the game where it’s historical or gamey so that it’s a fairer fight…
Good luck 🤞🏻
@@theministryofminiatures I won't be getting three Howling Cows that would be too horrendous to play against. No I will get 4!!!
They certainly have not helped the Germans at all, but on the bright side I can blame it for me losing.😌
😂😂😂
Indeed and at least it balances the win/lose ratio between us 👍🏻😂
Alaska Gen-X wargaming club. house rule (late war/ and konflict '47) : assault rifles are default. if 8 man unit, and AR cost 6 pts each, then the total cost of the unit of bolt action rifles, is discounted by 48 pts.
the default rifle cost, is our default assault rifle cost, same with smgs. we are more concerned with order die.... limit of 25 per side, unless on campaign, then we use bolt action 'apocalypse' rules.
Hi, thanks for the comment and interesting point about house rules! Maybe something we could look into once we have played a few more v3 games… but ideally I want to try to stick as much as possible to RAW… but I like the concept of your house rules 👍🏻
@@theministryofminiatures
RAW does have its place. were a club of old guys that have known each other for years, decades. thats when house rules shine.
for us, the point limit is a general guideline. the use of the assault rifle as the base is to allow one person to maximize the rough limit without exceeding it.
but i guess a rebate really isnt too different from an increase. if we were playing non club members, wed use the standard rules as a default.
truth is, none of the kids want to play at the grandpas table, and we dont want the whippersnappers so it all works out.
long winters make for long games, campaigns rather than one offs...
but hey, as long as you are having fun how you play, then you are doing it the right way, raw or not.
happy gaming
I know the feeling, our club games are very different from general games… and none of us are young, so having a good experience with a fun game is worth its weight in gold.
Bizarre that you’re building infantry sections based on points rather than using actual historical organisations. Strange set of rules that allows you to eliminate SMGs and Panzerfausts to ‘game’ the system. 🤦
Its a game which you play for enjoyment. But it is also a competetive game, say like chess. Neither Bolt Action or chess are super realistic.
Indeed it is a game, you can go for more historically accurate if you wish, or amend the units to fit with your play style or the points you have.
I have heard it described as Hollywood wargaming, but I am happy with it being easy and fun to play 👍🏻
@@theministryofminiatures - As you said in another thread, it’s all about fun at the end of the day. Some people dislike points-based games to an almost fetishistic level. Points don’t bother me personally and I think they’re a useful tool to balance opponents, but there’s got to be some degree of reality mirroring or the game just becomes fantasy.
I’ve never got on with B.Action myself except as a way to get new players and kids interested, but was intrigued to see if the new edition has improved gameplay and realism.
@sirrathersplendid4825 exactly, George in our group simply refuses to play Bolt Action… he is the one who called in Hollywood wargaming, so he and I play Hail Caesar and Black Powder, which we thoroughly enjoy. I have given up trying to get him to play BA… I am now working on Chain of Command with him 👍🏻
@@theministryofminiatures - I have a few quibbles with CoC (on- and off-table mortars and sharing of casualties among bunched groups) but hear these issues are being addressed in the 2nd edition, which might just be out for Christmas. Hope George likes the gameplay!
mute your phones
I know, Dan was visiting and needed to check his messages, we usually try to keep it to a minimum 👍🏻
Hopefully it didn’t ruin it for you?