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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ม.ค. 2025
- Gameplay review of the Charlemagne, the tier 6 French Cruiser in World of Warships WoWs Legends Console, the free to play game from Wargaming available on Xbox 1 and PS4. French cruiser tips, tricks, tactics and strategy in a Charlemagne.
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Good point about Scott.. I'm running Lennon in the Martell at level 12. Yamamoto inspiring at 15 with Madden at 9.. 8.4 second reload.great range, very accurate, hard hitting citadel salvos.. Loving the Charles Martell.. highly recommend it to everyone!!!!
Very strong offensive output on that one
Thanks for this review Tbull, it played heavily in my thoughts on getting this. 👍
Tbull, Ive switched out Norm Scott several times in my cruisers and haven't noticed any real difference when he is out. Especially with the American and French cruisers they are super accurate on their own and the German and Japanese do well without him too. So, I've moved on. My Scott is a level 11 tier 1 legendary captain. Thanks so much for all the great commentary and instruction.
Good info, thanks!
Good range on her torps is very helpful.
Thanks from the review. I'll head off to change my inspirations.
Let me know how it goes
I never use norm Scott on anything other than american cruisers,except for the martel. Martel with scott as inspiration makes it a 18.7km HE sniper
Yeah definitely helps at long range
I'm of the same opinion about Scott as an inspiration. DDs and Cruisers does really seem to need the accuracy boost. I do like Yamaoto. Citadeling BBs is great and in my experience he helps quite a bit. I've never ran a pure concealment built. I may try it because overall I've become very frustrated with T6-7 Cruiser play. I *feel* like you work your butt off for what you could do with ease in a DD or BB. Sailing around wagging your arse trying not to get hit. Or finding a rock that fits your arc and hoping you don't get plane spotted. Basically perpetually running and hiding to take shots and hoping you don't get deleted even angled. I feel like cruisers are more dependent on team play than any other. No DD spotting? Screwed... No BB tanking and keeping other BB's honest? Screwed. Where as BB play if you angle well you could last quite a while against 2 other BBs across from you. Playing a DD? While a lot of people will still do stupid things, most will shoot at spotted ships and you can cap, and you can torp. I used to say the Mogami was my favorite ship, now, I rarely play cruisers at all. All that to say, thanks for the vids, the ideas, and the commentary I may try a stealth build. :D
BB tanking? What's that? We all know BBs are edge of the map DPM machines xD
And it only goes to show the effectiveness of that strategy when that BB is the only one left alive on the team. Obviously everyone else got themselves killed and this guy is just Skillz McGee sailing back there untouched Lmao
Let me know if you try it, what the results are
Seems like I should just grind out the Charles Martel instead
Martels better in every regard except the guaranteed T7 matchmaking
All the people mentioning Chalemagne's handling. Just looking at stats, if you put the Slot 3 rudder mod on, Chalemagne has a rudder shift time slightly better than De Grasse with the exact same turning radius of 690m. And De Grasse is a fairly maneuverable ship.
Great gunnery AND lucky torpedoes! I happened to run into a spread of them yesterday. There was much cursing in the living room.....
😂
First time I faced a Charlemagne I honestly thought it was a BB by the way it moved.
Not used Scott as inspiration in a long time. I did at low tier but I didn't have anyone else. And low tier seemed to need him more, maybe. But if I had Scott at 16, I'd use him.
Who are your go-to inspirations?
@@TbullGaming Mostly Yamamoto, Madden and Muller.
This or Boise witch should I get
Boise requires using cover more, while this one does better zooming around lobbing shells from range. They are both nice, boise is probably a bit stronger/harder to play
@@TbullGaming thanks
Just checked, and yes, this is the first console exclusive ship. Wether or not that will be forever remains to be seen, but for now we are privileged in that. :)
Wouldn't surprise me if there are more down the line now that they've done one
USS Eldridge please
It doesnt need smoke because it literally has invisibility lmao
I tend to use Scott and Mikawa as inspirations (level 16 and 14, respectively). Though that's partly because I'm not higher than tier 4 on the other cruiser lines. Excellent predictive torps, too. 🤣🤣
Scott certainly doesn't hurt, but it's a percentage based increase in accuracy. If the accuracy is already very good, then the boost to accuracy is quite low
Tbull any thoughts on the halloween american cruiser captain? I think his name is Einstein but Seems like he has some very interesting skills that could be useful. Looks like he has a twist and track ability like the destroyer captains do.
He looks like a good Atlanta captain to me.
Seems solid to me, won't get to try him for a while though
I run an AP build which isnt doing bad.
Russell same, seems to hit hard. Probably my favourite cruiser. Kind of like the fact there aren’t many around.
Surprised you didn't use Lemonnier as an inspiration? Yes you wanted concealment. But wouldn't it help to use JarJar to get concealment circle back quicker using him?
Lemon? He'd be good, I don't have him at a very high level though
@@TbullGaming right, I edited to the right commander. Having concealment is great, but not if you can't go back to cloaked quickly
Charlemagne or Boise they're both on sale and I'm on undecided I was leaning toward Charlemagne because of the torps opinion please
Boise is probably the better of the two, but they're both solid
So it’s the de grasse but a tier higher
De Grasse is in a tier where it's shooting a lot less armor, so the AP can get into play easier
Tbull ok
It's just a Martel but 1 tier lower and yes its a console exclusive.
I don't have Scott and my cruisers are accurate. I can't see the point of increasing accuracy on cruisers.
It helps, but since the accuracy is high to begin with, there might be better uses for the inspirations
@@TbullGaming I think you're right.. I'm not great with cruisers, but I known they don't lack accuracy 😄
I don't run Scott as inspiration for anyone...mainly because I don't have him yet...I have found Kinkaid to be useful in dodging fire in the Indy and Pensacola. I then run von Muller in the Konigsberg and Nurnberg, and Lemonnier in the Emile, de Grasse, and La Gallisoniere...they may not NEED the accuracy boost, but those tight shot groups are sure pretty to see...
I enjoy the tier 4 and 5 cruisers a lot, but I've heard that they get, um...kablammered at tier 6 and 7. I enjoy the Indy, but my win rate is dreadful in it...I've seen tier 7 games with 4 DDs and 3 Iowas on each team, and no cruisers in sight except for my Indianapolis...meta up there is interesting...
I get spotted in my Nagato usually about 10 to 12 seconds into the match, and often take a broadside hit halfway through my first turn...I wonder why tier 7 BBs start the game backing up? Hmm...oh, the spawn points are currently too close to each other...hopefully that gets fixed soon.
I don't mind too much, since I mostly play tiers 4 and 5, but the tier 7 meta seems like something that should be watched...
The high tier ships themselves aren't any more susceptible to taking damage. The players at higher tiers in general do a better job of looking for broadside target though
Funny how I just deleted 2 of them 2 vs me they tried to angle and boom deletion...I had Indianapolis
You gotta be very steeply angled in this to bounce.
It’s a sluggish ship. I just gave up on the mobility and ran it with lemonade. It’s a slug basically 😂
How does lemon do in it?
Tbull the rudder and mobility is horrifying. The difference was so small with roux. I set up lemon for fire build when we were testing and hid in the back and burning up people. The amount of damage lemon can dish out is incredible. Played 30 games on this thing and found the Algerie superior due to the ability to dodge incoming fire. And the 5k hp is a big deal
I felt like even the de grasse a tier down outclassed this. I’m probably going to bail on scott as an inspiration as well and go for full fire builds at high tier with the French dewy as inspiration
Running double concealment is an interesting concept i might have to play around with that but its hard to get away from my 13pt legendary 2 scott inspiration.. especially on my york and hipper
Yeah I hear ya there
Why isnt this ship the not premium tier 6 cruiser instead of Algerie!😡
As a fellow ps4 player Idk how u get so much support when u play considering most ps4 players are terrible at strategy on this game... I get focused 9/10 no matter what I do and idiots run out die or don’t scout as a destroyer. Please provide which hacks u are using to get support from your team these players are ruining the experience daily 😭
Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, B, A, Select, Start
Works like a charm
Don't be the first one they see. It's not any different on XB1. If they see you first, you're it. They just keep shooting at what they can see. Needless to say, don't scout as a cruiser. Also, it's finally sunk in that certain cruisers are a particular menace and if you get spotted in one (Marblehead, DeGrasse, Atlanta), they'll move heaven and earth to delete you. Interestingly enough, they'll usually ignore something like Graf Spee even after watching you smokecheck their division mates right in front of them. There really isn't an answer, other than running with friends in your own division. That removes at least one third of the potential sea monkeys on your team. I also suspect there's a secret consumable called "scuttling charges" that a large percentage of your fellow players like using in the first three minutes.
Tbull lol those are Xbox cheats I need the PS4 code 😭
Dave Finfrock lmao I mainly run battleships. I have no problem being spotted and tanking the damage but only as long as my team capitalized on it which they never do... don’t see the logic in letting your teammate die when u can help
French cruiser's are the best
They're good as support ships
Them's fightin words, sonny. Murican cruisers ftw.
😂😂
How many "HON" out of three for this ship? Judging from your commentary, I'd say HONHON.
Probably duex
@@TbullGaming Again, it's like the Indy versus the New Orleans - even if the former is not necessarily "better" it at least brought something different to the table to justify a purchase. Not sure I see that with the Charlemagne, and I usually love cruisers.
I wouldn't buy a high tier cruiser even if they threw in their sister for free.
Never liked T7, and now that everyone has maxed out Simms, I don't play it at all. T7 Q times seem to be getting longer, which is counter-intuitive as more players should have T7 ships by now. Also getting up-tiered more often, so I'm avoiding T6 as well.
Hopefully sales of the Charlie will tank, and they'll be forced to address the issue.
What changes would improve it in your opinion?
@@TbullGaming Nerf Awoi shell velocity.
The blasphemy about Norman mutha freaking scott ...the only other usn cruiser I use is probably Victor f Einstein...but when it comes to cruiser command I will take norman Scott more often than not
I got him maxed, definitely a good commander. I'm just starting to think there are more valuable commander inspirations for cruisers to take
@@TbullGaming if you're talking inspirational then yea of course I agree
Seriously, wheres the British cruisers? I feel that we British are not getting any love 😅
I'd expect to see em start showing up fairly soon
But we hate the Brits though......
@@emperor_pewpew2903 No you don't
Brit Cruisers sometime in 2020
Well people get likes for just saying random things soooo
*Torpedoes*