As a former Five Guys GM, Five Guys is considered “fast casual” and aims for ticket times below 8 minutes (if memory serves correctly), I want to say that was the goal on our secret shops. I believe the burgers take about 5-6 min to prepare and the fries 2-3 min on average because the fries are precooked. The fries get dropped when the burgers are flipped and smashed. There is an effort to get the food out asap (like calling out the amount of patties when ringing in an order “4 patties, 2 buns!”) but there was a higher focus on quality and making sure the patties were cooked well done, we weren’t allowed to serve pink.
00:00 Intro 00:35 News this week 03:02 Are these fast food? 05:36 Warnings on alcohol 09:10 -mystery- 09:52 Bakery (online course) scandal 16:57 New Products! I say no. Shake shack & five guys are not fast food but chipotle is. I think burger joints are too muddied. Whataburger - slower but chain Fuddruckers - definitely not fast Orange Cow - ehh Charcoaler Burger - probably fast Toro Burger - slow Hi-D-Ho - slow but drive in Bobs Burgers - fictional but fantastic. The bakery thing... - drama.
Based timecode poster! I feel like the cut off for fast food or not should be about if they get more take out orders or more people that eat in the resturant. I almost never eat my food at mcdonalds, but usually I eat my burger in the five guys. Specifically for chain places though. You're local chinese spot isn't fast food even if they do most of their business as take out
Re: Shake Shack. I think it is a fundamentally different situation. Shake Shack, in my opinion, is overpriced, but that just means I won't eat there. Whereas McDonald's is becoming overpriced, but it isn't justifying its own price - the demographic for McDonald's is mostly low-income or at least low-spending-threshhold, so they can't get away with raising prices without making a noticeable change in how they present themselves. I have only seen Shake Shack in middle class neighborhoods, so I can rest assured that people with the money to spend there are probably going to continue so long as it maintains its image.
Chain restaurant discourse is always poisoned, every aspect is not just immoral as a consumer but even just from a capitalist lense you will never get your moneys worth unless you're stacking discounts 3x or exploiting the loss leader items only
I see yalls point about the labeling not having much of an effect on consumption of alcohol BUT I disagree. Sure, the rate of consumption might not deter those who are consuming at the moment but I think the labeling and the visual spread of awareness that these labels will bring will definitely affect the choices of future children who might think twice about going deep smoking or drinking. Look at how effective the awareness program was against smoking in the early 2010s. a lot of young kids and millenials have stayed away from tobacco use. Unfortunately, all the progress made against tobacco has been undone by the widespread popularity of vaping which is another beast in itself.
yeah, also i think while most people get that alcohol is bad for you and your long term health i don't think most realize that alcohol is a carcinogen.
Alcoholics who consume 50+ drinks/week are probably consuming cheap and/or high-ABV alcohol basically exclusively. I don't think "the bottom line of alcohol companies" is the biggest concern around public health, but smaller nudges do seem like they'd probably affect lower-ABV and higher-cost products
Significant portions of all alcohol sold are estimated to be consumed by heavy "harmful" drinkers. I was a bit surprised how right Shaq was (sorry!). The bottom of line of all companies is indeed a significant barrier to getting anything done, especially in public policy, and that's why I'll be surprised if the surgeon general's suggestion goes anywhere. His office is probably inundated with phone calls from angry congressmen, whose offices are in turn inundated with phone calls from angry lobbyists.
I don't think there's any way the graphic at 6:46 is correct, especially because looking at the NIH site now only 5.8% of people described being a heavy drinker (5+ drinks in a day or 15+ drinks per week) in the previous month. If that's to be accurate even assuming the other 4.2% were just at the threshold holding strong with 14 drinks per week to average 73.9 drinks per week in that top 10% those 5.8% would have an average of around 117 drinks per week. I think there have to be many people near the 15-20 per week in the heavy drinking in the last month category, so I struggle with the idea that many of the people are drinking 30+ every night. Maybe I just haven't met these people but that doesn't seem survivable.
re: the female perspective - yeah... they are the largest group of consumers. The vast majority of marketing targets them... so who better to get advice from than from the very type of person you're targeting? Seems like, "Tell me how I could sell this to people like you" is a pretty good strategy.
Ben n Jerry's is $15AUD/pint in Australia!! 😢😢😢 $9.30USD ALSO their sundae flavours are a scam! It's just a whole bunch of nothing on top!! But they took away chunky monkey so it's the only way to get the sweet banana flavour 😢😢😢
11:34 , This is an intellectually dishonest comparison. Youre comparing bakers to 13 year olds and incels. One is clearly more observant than the other.
As a former Five Guys GM, Five Guys is considered “fast casual” and aims for ticket times below 8 minutes (if memory serves correctly), I want to say that was the goal on our secret shops. I believe the burgers take about 5-6 min to prepare and the fries 2-3 min on average because the fries are precooked. The fries get dropped when the burgers are flipped and smashed. There is an effort to get the food out asap (like calling out the amount of patties when ringing in an order “4 patties, 2 buns!”) but there was a higher focus on quality and making sure the patties were cooked well done, we weren’t allowed to serve pink.
00:00 Intro
00:35 News this week
03:02 Are these fast food?
05:36 Warnings on alcohol
09:10 -mystery-
09:52 Bakery (online course) scandal
16:57 New Products!
I say no. Shake shack & five guys are not fast food but chipotle is. I think burger joints are too muddied.
Whataburger - slower but chain
Fuddruckers - definitely not fast
Orange Cow - ehh
Charcoaler Burger - probably fast
Toro Burger - slow
Hi-D-Ho - slow but drive in
Bobs Burgers - fictional but fantastic.
The bakery thing... - drama.
Based timecode poster! I feel like the cut off for fast food or not should be about if they get more take out orders or more people that eat in the resturant. I almost never eat my food at mcdonalds, but usually I eat my burger in the five guys. Specifically for chain places though. You're local chinese spot isn't fast food even if they do most of their business as take out
jarvis johnson cameo at 5:15ish goes crazy
I love this show so much it makes me so happy to see the notification
Just looking at the end of the video while I write this, I see two genuine smiles. That may be why this is better than a podcast.
watching as I'm eating my gumbo for dinner, these are always a treat, thanks to you both!
Always love these!
Re: Shake Shack. I think it is a fundamentally different situation. Shake Shack, in my opinion, is overpriced, but that just means I won't eat there. Whereas McDonald's is becoming overpriced, but it isn't justifying its own price - the demographic for McDonald's is mostly low-income or at least low-spending-threshhold, so they can't get away with raising prices without making a noticeable change in how they present themselves. I have only seen Shake Shack in middle class neighborhoods, so I can rest assured that people with the money to spend there are probably going to continue so long as it maintains its image.
I love this not-podcast a lot
Chain restaurant discourse is always poisoned, every aspect is not just immoral as a consumer but even just from a capitalist lense you will never get your moneys worth unless you're stacking discounts 3x or exploiting the loss leader items only
I see yalls point about the labeling not having much of an effect on consumption of alcohol BUT I disagree. Sure, the rate of consumption might not deter those who are consuming at the moment but I think the labeling and the visual spread of awareness that these labels will bring will definitely affect the choices of future children who might think twice about going deep smoking or drinking. Look at how effective the awareness program was against smoking in the early 2010s. a lot of young kids and millenials have stayed away from tobacco use. Unfortunately, all the progress made against tobacco has been undone by the widespread popularity of vaping which is another beast in itself.
yeah, also i think while most people get that alcohol is bad for you and your long term health i don't think most realize that alcohol is a carcinogen.
Alcoholics who consume 50+ drinks/week are probably consuming cheap and/or high-ABV alcohol basically exclusively.
I don't think "the bottom line of alcohol companies" is the biggest concern around public health, but smaller nudges do seem like they'd probably affect lower-ABV and higher-cost products
Significant portions of all alcohol sold are estimated to be consumed by heavy "harmful" drinkers. I was a bit surprised how right Shaq was (sorry!). The bottom of line of all companies is indeed a significant barrier to getting anything done, especially in public policy, and that's why I'll be surprised if the surgeon general's suggestion goes anywhere. His office is probably inundated with phone calls from angry congressmen, whose offices are in turn inundated with phone calls from angry lobbyists.
I don't think there's any way the graphic at 6:46 is correct, especially because looking at the NIH site now only 5.8% of people described being a heavy drinker (5+ drinks in a day or 15+ drinks per week) in the previous month. If that's to be accurate even assuming the other 4.2% were just at the threshold holding strong with 14 drinks per week to average 73.9 drinks per week in that top 10% those 5.8% would have an average of around 117 drinks per week. I think there have to be many people near the 15-20 per week in the heavy drinking in the last month category, so I struggle with the idea that many of the people are drinking 30+ every night. Maybe I just haven't met these people but that doesn't seem survivable.
6:34 , actually smoking dropped a lot in nations they did that in and rhe comoajies freaked out. There is satistics.
16:15 They aren’t fooling anybody with Luiz, that’s straight-up Israel Adesanya.
Best Friday treat!
The Fakery Saga
re: the female perspective - yeah... they are the largest group of consumers. The vast majority of marketing targets them... so who better to get advice from than from the very type of person you're targeting? Seems like, "Tell me how I could sell this to people like you" is a pretty good strategy.
0:38 no wonder the one near me is dead all the time.
eaters rise
Ben n Jerry's is $15AUD/pint in Australia!! 😢😢😢 $9.30USD
ALSO their sundae flavours are a scam! It's just a whole bunch of nothing on top!! But they took away chunky monkey so it's the only way to get the sweet banana flavour 😢😢😢
Its oreos all the way down
11:34 , This is an intellectually dishonest comparison. Youre comparing bakers to 13 year olds and incels. One is clearly more observant than the other.