Yeah, a lot of people already mentioned it, but nobody really explained why. Probably no Tai Otoshi any more, because she loads her opponent onto her back. At least partially. In a classic Tai Otoshi, there is no body contact at all. That´s why Tai Otoshi is classified as Te-Waza and not as Koshi-Waza by the Kodokan. Nonetheless it´s an effective variation, because it removes the problem most people have with the Tsurite (lifting hand) in the classic version.
She does not load uke onto her back. It seems that way, but if you slow it down you can see. And even with the te-waza distinction, you load people on your back for seoi nage even though they are also hand techniques. This version of tai otoshi is blurring the line between that and seoi otoshi though.
Please dont bring the heel down, you're going to hyperextend your partner's knee. So many people show this version and it is HORRIBLE. Just last month, I had a new blackbelt came to our dojo (but he was old and learned this somewhere) and he hyperextended 3 of his partners in standing uchikomi. We had several talked with him already and told him he cant do this anymore. And Tai Otoshi is a hand technique, and in the original text by Kano, you dont even need to move your leg outside of the uke's leg. All these addons she did is because shes compensated for bad kuzushi from her hands.If you do it correctly, you literally dont need any of these risky addons.
I love tai otoshi but could never really execute it perfectly. It’s a difficult throw because it requires perfect timing sequences involving kuzushi, the feet, the hands, and the turning of the hip. Even the great Yasuhiro Yamashita couldn’t get it right. He admitted so in his book, The Fighting Spirit of Judo. Great video. Please post more. Your technique is excellent. Go judo! 🥋
You're kidding. Grab the wrist and under the elbow, swinging /pivoting your right shoulder under the arm the pulling down forcibly breaking the elbow joint STOPPING the threat. You're welcome.
It allows you to spring the opponents defending leg away. As long as your knee faces down at the end of the technique its fine. Its important to have the knee facing down in case the opponent falls on your leg that gives you the release of the weight.
Interestingly when she demonstrates kuzushi and tsukuri - it is tai otoshi footwork, but when doing kake she converts it to seoi otoshi. Kumikata - proper to start, then converts it to morote seoi nage. Standard tai otoshi hand movement is lapel driven into the collar bone and chin of an uke. Overall an interesting throw but certainly not in the gokyo. Overall I would personally call it a morote seoi otoshi.
This has got to be one the most solid JUDO waza I've seen performed in ages. It must be a blast to uke for this Judoka
Thats a great seotoshi
Great explanation and demonstration! Thank you!
Yeah, a lot of people already mentioned it, but nobody really explained why.
Probably no Tai Otoshi any more, because she loads her opponent onto her back. At least partially. In a classic Tai Otoshi, there is no body contact at all. That´s why Tai Otoshi is classified as Te-Waza and not as Koshi-Waza by the Kodokan. Nonetheless it´s an effective variation, because it removes the problem most people have with the Tsurite (lifting hand) in the classic version.
HHI schmo78. Hi. I'm Karate. Yeah, it seemed odd. However, I chalked it up to application, which then it did truly excel. 😊😊😊😊CHEERS.
She does not load uke onto her back. It seems that way, but if you slow it down you can see. And even with the te-waza distinction, you load people on your back for seoi nage even though they are also hand techniques. This version of tai otoshi is blurring the line between that and seoi otoshi though.
Beautiful solid technique
Thank you I think the arm to chest thing will help me a lot
Trying to put the arm under the armpit, during a randori or a shiai, can disrupt your balance more easily
@@mrburns2128 I was about to say something snarky, but instead I'll ask this, what exactly is randori/shiai to you?
@@papatinpan randori is the sparring during class, shiai is the "fighting" during competition.
Looks good
Please dont bring the heel down, you're going to hyperextend your partner's knee.
So many people show this version and it is HORRIBLE. Just last month, I had a new blackbelt came to our dojo (but he was old and learned this somewhere) and he hyperextended 3 of his partners in standing uchikomi.
We had several talked with him already and told him he cant do this anymore.
And Tai Otoshi is a hand technique, and in the original text by Kano, you dont even need to move your leg outside of the uke's leg. All these addons she did is because shes compensated for bad kuzushi from her hands.If you do it correctly, you literally dont need any of these risky addons.
I love tai otoshi but could never really execute it perfectly. It’s a difficult throw because it requires perfect timing sequences involving kuzushi, the feet, the hands, and the turning of the hip. Even the great Yasuhiro Yamashita couldn’t get it right.
He admitted so in his book, The Fighting Spirit of Judo. Great video. Please post more. Your technique is excellent. Go judo! 🥋
@@serekithegreat Thanks for the supportive and kind words!
Conheço por Seoi Otoshi,pois o Tai Otoshi é pegando na gola (Eri) empurrado tipo um pé de ouvido rodando sem encostar no corpo do Uke
nice!
Salut les filles Un grand merci pour votre analyse félicitation à bientôt j'espère pour d'autres technique
Really enjoyed learning from women. They didnt just cover A, B & C but provided A1, A2, B1, B2....
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Nice
The way you did it is called Seoi Otoshi.
Это здесь она еле-еле захват взяла а что она будет делать во время реального боя?
Is it Tai Otoshi or Morote Seoi Otoshi ?
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Called morote otoshi.
Different from tai osothi.
Well morote seoi toshi, is a shoulder throw….her throw is definitely a tai otoshi with uki falling across her extended leg, not over her shoulder
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Her body (tai) IS performing the throw,
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Eso no es tai otoshi. Es morote seoi nage con la parte superior del cuerpo y tai otoshi con la inferior.
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You're kidding. Grab the wrist and under the elbow, swinging /pivoting your right shoulder under the arm the pulling down forcibly breaking the elbow joint STOPPING the threat. You're welcome.
This is a judo throw. Not kidding. Learn about the rules of judo and how throws work.
It´s a dangerous application, because trying put the heels down, you hyperxtend your knee, and the knee can be broke, wich the uke´s weight.
It allows you to spring the opponents defending leg away.
As long as your knee faces down at the end of the technique its fine. Its important to have the knee facing down in case the opponent falls on your leg that gives you the release of the weight.
I see what you mean though i would be lifting my heel and on the ball of my foot. especially with the heavy guys.
Pretty and a savage
Didn’t see the bottom foot work on this video ….
I stop using it cos most of the time it was wazari.
It’s not tai otoshi
Plz don't hurt her
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Otoshi is pronounced otoshee, not otosh. Grip is not correct for the standard technique.
this is seoi otoshi,
@groszek Do you train ?😅
Interestingly when she demonstrates kuzushi and tsukuri - it is tai otoshi footwork, but when doing kake she converts it to seoi otoshi. Kumikata - proper to start, then converts it to morote seoi nage. Standard tai otoshi hand movement is lapel driven into the collar bone and chin of an uke.
Overall an interesting throw but certainly not in the gokyo. Overall I would personally call it a morote seoi otoshi.
Yes, I do. I also coach.
Works for her though.