I wish there was more about The Maxx in this. It was a truly groundbreaking and fantastic series. And anyone reading this that has not read Saga, NEEDS TO. Saga is perhaps the greatest thing ever! 👊👽🤘
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Awesome series! Very fun. My only "complaint" would be there seems to be a missing gap - When Joe Mad, Humberto Ramos, and J. Scott Campbell came along, under image to create the cliff hanger imprint. I remember the hype around their books (Battle Chasers, Crimson, and Danger girl) And although Crimson was the only book to arrive on time and finish, I really remember this time of image as a big moving forward point.
This doc and kirkman kinda breeze past invincible as not being all that important, but that’s a pretty huge f’n hit too in 2021. Two season renewal at the same time. Kirkman was on fire, back then
James Francovas Todd MacFarlane. Dave Franco as Rob Liefeld. John Cho as Jim Lee. Robbie Amell as Michael Turner. The baseball cap kid from Stranger Things as young Robert Kirkman.
@@DCMarvelMultiverse I'd put Christian Bale as Todd, other than that, it's perfect. I'd add the stories of Jack Kirby and previous creators as the context of the beginning.
Great Documentary---only thing I feel like was missing was McFarlane Toys discussion. That played a large role, from my perspective anyway, in getting IMAGE to the masses as well. Was it his company that produced toys for all image? There were Young Blood, Wetworks, Savage Dragon toys. My dad bought a few of the comics, but it was really the Toys that captured my interest as a child
This is a really great documentary series. Really detailed, informative, unveiling and gets down to the nitty gritty. I can’t believe it’s not widely watched or talked about. Well done to the host for a job well done 👍🏼
Just finished watching Part 5 of this series. I can just say wow... I was collecting when right when Image was formed. It's amazing to hear the history.
Amazing series. These guys were like heroes to me back in the day. I still have Jim Lee's #1 X-men. Only on TH-cam I could see this extraordinary story. Thanks a lot SyFy
Finally got to watch this series. Awesome interview and information on creator-owned comics. You can see how Image has even influenced Marvel & DC to create non-super traditional stories though that's their main target audience.
Great documentary, I only recently got into Image Comics kind of recently but my favourite (ongoing) titles are The Walking Dead, Saga, Kill Or Be Killed, Deadly Class and Lazarus.
Modern day Image is very good...they do many things right...BUT...they don't maintain consistent releases AND too many creators abandon the stories mid-stream, e.g., Warren Ellis and Nick Spencer. I'm spent time and money on certain titles - "Trees", "They're Not Like Us", "The Nowhere Men", "Morning Glories" and they just stop without warning and either never publish again or do publish again with extremely long duration between releases. To be honest, as much as I enjoy Image's books, I tend to buy more titles now from AfterShock, Black Mask, BOOM!, Dark Horse, Oni Press, Vertigo and European publishers like Humanoids and 2000 AD. If I want superheroes, I read Valiant.
Y'all tackled the dramas with Liefeld and Lee, Larsen vs Valentino, but you don't cover McFarlane's treatment of Neil Gaiman? If you guys are going to cover Image as this creator-owned paradise, isn't it kind of intellectually dishonest to avoid dealing with the moments when the company failed to live up to that ideal?
Yeah, Todd's poor treatment of Gaiman was the first time I saw him for the colossal douche canoe egomaniac he comes across as. Todd is quite a businessman, but he doesn't really seem to care that he comes off as a colossal prick.
It feels as though this series leaves out a lot in terms of where things are now with the founders and their overall thoughts of the company in its current state
Irod draw They sure are. I'm looking at my Gen 13 comics right now from the 90's....and they were published by Image. Spawn and Gen 13 where the *biggest* comics by them at the time. Forget Wildcats, Pitt, Young Blood, Savage Dragon, Ripclaw, etc.
I was an avid reader of image comics back in 1994 to 1996. I was only 8 to 10. I never realised image was still killing it with the old board member until I saw this today.
Great series. I'm going to have to assume Brubaker and Phillips weren't available as the only reason to not mention Criminal or their other works for image which have been some of the best pieces of art in ages.
@@talent103 no. i can go to any store that has used comics and get any 90s image books for a dollar each at the most. there are so many of them in every comic book stores cheapo bin that im actually surprised when i find books from the big 2 or other companies like dark horse and valiant.
I was there at the Golden Apple with my other 2 friends ditching school just to get signatures. BTW I have the Deathmate Gold sign with like 12 signatures.
Hey Syfy that was great next time talk about the impact that is Fantagraphics comics. They brought in the whole notion of creator own comics into the mainstream market. They did it in the 80s.
I think had Image had someone early on who was capable of keeping the creators focused the comic book landscape today would be very different. But, history is what it is. We wouldn't have gotten The Walking Dead, Saga, or so many others.
The 2nd wave of Campbell and Ramos (among others) did so much more to propel Image forward than Portacio ever did. I'm sorry for his loss, but he didn't do a thing except be there when it happened.
Sorry, but Portacio actually did a lot more than the audience is aware of, perhaps because they were of the behind-the-scenes type. One of these things -- and in my opionion, amongst the biggest he's contributed to Image (and actually, THE ENTIRE COMIC INDUSTRY) -- is his having a hand at widely implementing digital coloring @ Image, which somehow pressured Marvel & DC upgrade their books' colors & has since become the industry standard. Another thing is mentoring artists who would then be the next wave of artists for Wildstorm/Image, some of whom are now comicbook superstars.
They missed touching on really ground breaking artists like Andy Park, Neil Gaiman, Billy Tan, Ron Marz, Scott Campbell and they breezed over Michael Turner like he was a speck...It was a informative documentary but I feel like it didn't paint the full picture, Image comics was even bigger than this documentary portrayed.
Todd gave all his energy to comics with image..mmm...making basically one book this entire time but creating a toy line that is bigger than his one book..I am not diminishing what Image did ..but it is not like there are not examples of other makers that werent with the big two out there doing it before them..a little book called TMNT that spawned tv and movies came first..non superhero books like Love and Rockets and Cerberus for example that had a lot of acclaim ..certainly not at sales levels that books these days get..but a lot of it is the speculators all over again hoping these books go up in price once a tv or movie is made of it.
wow, some really wild comments below. Did nobody else see diversity in context? As in diversity of GENRES of books published? The comments ramble on with odd arguments and tangents, and don't mention what the doco did - that image went from that 90's superhero book company to image 2.0 with new GENRES and new creators doing non-superhero books. Way to go off topic people.
I wish there was more about The Maxx in this. It was a truly groundbreaking and fantastic series. And anyone reading this that has not read Saga, NEEDS TO. Saga is perhaps the greatest thing ever! 👊👽🤘
This was a fantastic series. Thank you SyFy.
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Awesome series! Very fun. My only "complaint" would be there seems to be a missing gap - When Joe Mad, Humberto Ramos, and J. Scott Campbell came along, under image to create the cliff hanger imprint. I remember the hype around their books (Battle Chasers, Crimson, and Danger girl) And although Crimson was the only book to arrive on time and finish, I really remember this time of image as a big moving forward point.
Who did Tank Girl? I remember that was a comic to movie deal.
Yeap! MAdureira and Campbell were cornerstones in the story and success of Image! Jeff Scott was the sidecick of Jim Lee
I don't think this documentary was meant to be exhaustive.
@@gozinta82 Tank Girl was created by Jamie Hewlett.
@@reanetsemoleleki8219 Thank you :)
Great series, do Dark horse next
^THIS! Well said and stated.
Robert Jacques that would be awesome
Great idea!
Yesss. Hellboy and the Mignolaverse, Harrow County, Alien, Star Wars, etc....
matt thomas They crushed it with their Star Wars legends books. Not to mention AVP
Fantastic stuff. Big applause to all involved. I hope more docs are on the way
You forgot to mention to The Darkness in all this..
I was thinking that
Yep. Even Silvestri forgot
I still read the comics and play the games.
How on earth did they get Morrison to do an Internet video?
“Oh, yer doin’ a documentary? Aye, I’ll be there. Right after I fix me typewriter.”
This doc and kirkman kinda breeze past invincible as not being all that important, but that’s a pretty huge f’n hit too in 2021. Two season renewal at the same time. Kirkman was on fire, back then
well this was 2017
This would make a good movie
There was a documentary made actually, giving alot of other details to the story
Called ''The Image Revolution''
James Francovas Todd MacFarlane. Dave Franco as Rob Liefeld. John Cho as Jim Lee. Robbie Amell as Michael Turner. The baseball cap kid from Stranger Things as young Robert Kirkman.
Could be like The Social Network
@@DCMarvelMultiverse
I'd put Christian Bale as Todd, other than that, it's perfect. I'd add the stories of Jack Kirby and previous creators as the context of the beginning.
@@KTF0 isn't Christian Bale too old to play Todd in the 90's?
Great Documentary---only thing I feel like was missing was McFarlane Toys discussion. That played a large role, from my perspective anyway, in getting IMAGE to the masses as well. Was it his company that produced toys for all image? There were Young Blood, Wetworks, Savage Dragon toys. My dad bought a few of the comics, but it was really the Toys that captured my interest as a child
I still have some McFarlane toys ! I even had those Horror Manaics and Aliens.
Superb production! I can't believe I only just found this. This was super inspiring and really well crafted. Thank you SYFY!
Great series of videos. Very nostalgic. I lived it and boy did these interviews bring back memories.
This is a really great documentary series. Really detailed, informative, unveiling and gets down to the nitty gritty. I can’t believe it’s not widely watched or talked about. Well done to the host for a job well done 👍🏼
Just finished watching Part 5 of this series. I can just say wow... I was collecting when right when Image was formed. It's amazing to hear the history.
Amazing series. These guys were like heroes to me back in the day. I still have Jim Lee's #1 X-men. Only on TH-cam I could see this extraordinary story. Thanks a lot SyFy
Finally got to watch this series. Awesome interview and information on creator-owned comics. You can see how Image has even influenced Marvel & DC to create non-super traditional stories though that's their main target audience.
I'd love to see SYFY tackle the rise and fall of Valiant Comics
Damn, I literally had forgotten all about Valiant!
Really great series! Could have mentioned even more comics but I guess that could have dragged on honoring the creators as well.
Thanks SyFy, loved it. Got more??
This was a great series! Image absolutely changed the comics world and continues to do so. Thank you for making this.
What an amazing series. This is my third time watching it .
i would never have found out about all these different comics if not for this series
This is such a great series - bravo to all involved and to my favourite publisher 👏👏👏
Amazing series. One of the best things I've watched in YT ever.
Such a great 5 part series!!! Thanks for posting it. 🤘😁🤘
thanks for giving context to something that shaped my childhood
Great documentary, I only recently got into Image Comics kind of recently but my favourite (ongoing) titles are The Walking Dead, Saga, Kill Or Be Killed, Deadly Class and Lazarus.
Thanks for this video :D kinda reminded me of the image revolution :)
Kudos also to image for making me a comic book fan.
interesting story. good journalism. nice editing. enjoyable watch. thanks.
Excellent series SyFy, you’ve earned a subscriber here 😤😤
Modern day Image is very good...they do many things right...BUT...they don't maintain consistent releases AND too many creators abandon the stories mid-stream, e.g., Warren Ellis and Nick Spencer. I'm spent time and money on certain titles - "Trees", "They're Not Like Us", "The Nowhere Men", "Morning Glories" and they just stop without warning and either never publish again or do publish again with extremely long duration between releases. To be honest, as much as I enjoy Image's books, I tend to buy more titles now from AfterShock, Black Mask, BOOM!, Dark Horse, Oni Press, Vertigo and European publishers like Humanoids and 2000 AD. If I want superheroes, I read Valiant.
That is more about the creators and their discipline. It's a personal deal.
WOW! JUST LOVED THE WAY THIS MADE ME FEEL. I NEED TO PICK UP SOME COMICS NOW AND WATCH A FEW NEW SHOWS
Thank you IMAGE for taking that risk.
Watched the whole series here! Great job, really cool and it made me want to finish my ideas
This was an excellent series. Really.
Image is my favorite comics distributor. Great series, thanks!
Y'all tackled the dramas with Liefeld and Lee, Larsen vs Valentino, but you don't cover McFarlane's treatment of Neil Gaiman? If you guys are going to cover Image as this creator-owned paradise, isn't it kind of intellectually dishonest to avoid dealing with the moments when the company failed to live up to that ideal?
Yeah, Todd's poor treatment of Gaiman was the first time I saw him for the colossal douche canoe egomaniac he comes across as. Todd is quite a businessman, but he doesn't really seem to care that he comes off as a colossal prick.
Dee Vee Interesting explanation! Never considered that! You're prolly spot on, too!
What happened between McFarlane and Gaiman then?
What happened between them
@@matthewknapp1092 Gaiman co-created Angela and McFarland cheated him out of his creator rights when he sold the character to Marvel years ago
It feels as though this series leaves out a lot in terms of where things are now with the founders and their overall thoughts of the company in its current state
thanks for this documentary, really liked it
Awesome series, bravo SYFY. Keep it comin
This is soooo great. thanks for doing it
Great documentary, subscribed. As well as Saga I like East of West.
I fell like writing now.
Do it. Now.
Looks like you need practice
2nd time watching this video.
you guys did a really great job.
Really, really enjoyed this series.
“Music mixed and mastered by Dave Draper”
Is that THE DAVE DRAPER?!?! Bodybuilding legend from back in the day?
Saw all 5 parts that was awsomeeee
The first 12 issues of W.I.L.D. Cats are my Favorite comics Ever!
Why I didn't see Gen 13 or J. Scott Campbell???
Israel Leon Chacon causes there not part of image comics company
Irod draw
They sure are. I'm looking at my Gen 13 comics right now from the 90's....and they were published by Image. Spawn and Gen 13 where the *biggest* comics by them at the time. Forget Wildcats, Pitt, Young Blood, Savage Dragon, Ripclaw, etc.
I if I remember they were all part of wildstorm so they just sweep it in under Jim Lee...a shame they don't get credit for existing
Wow thats was nostalgic!
Great documentary series! I loved it ;))
I was an avid reader of image comics back in 1994 to 1996. I was only 8 to 10. I never realised image was still killing it with the old board member until I saw this today.
You'd have to be 8 to 10 to think Image was any good in 1994 😆 🤣 😂
Good four part series!
so what are rob liefield and Jim Valentino doing now? I always loved his book shadowhawk
Fantastic docu series!
great series, really enjoyed it.
Great series. I'm going to have to assume Brubaker and Phillips weren't available as the only reason to not mention Criminal or their other works for image which have been some of the best pieces of art in ages.
Now I need to go see 'The Comic Book Greats' too
Bless Image comics. They are gods
great series..an honest look at the comic book industry.
Great series guys. Loved it!
ahhhhh the 90's BEST DECADE EVERRRRRR
Does anyone else think that Mark Sylvestri looks like Dave Grohl ?
Ibrahimovic
I still wish I had my original copies of the Gen13 run =(
I have them. Are they worth anything?
I still do. Even number zero
@@talent103 no. i can go to any store that has used comics and get any 90s image books for a dollar each at the most. there are so many of them in every comic book stores cheapo bin that im actually surprised when i find books from the big 2 or other companies like dark horse and valiant.
@@pyromaniarules I think thats true but not for the Gen 13 early issues.
This MUST be a movie
an amazing series! tks syfy
I was there at the Golden Apple with my other 2 friends ditching school just to get signatures. BTW I have the Deathmate Gold sign with like 12 signatures.
Please release the entire 5 part as a blu ray or DVD that I can buy!
or one mega video, this series was phenomenal
Hey Syfy that was great next time talk about the impact that is Fantagraphics comics. They brought in the whole notion of creator own comics into the mainstream market. They did it in the 80s.
WHAT THIS MAN SAID !!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Great series. Thanks
Robert is a delight
Awesome series :)
Good show! Looking forward to the new Spawn movie! 💪💪💪
Part 5: When nostalgia came crashing down to reality.
This is when sjw took over comics and ruined it lol
GREAT little series, so informative, loved all of it, well, Liefeld, lol
Good job. I also would like more docs on different companies.
GOD BLESS J.SCOTT CAMPBELL..He took the Style of Comics to that Raw level with GEN-13 and DANGER GIRL!!!!!
thank you for posting !
I think had Image had someone early on who was capable of keeping the creators focused the comic book landscape today would be very different. But, history is what it is. We wouldn't have gotten The Walking Dead, Saga, or so many others.
Love this series. I really need to read their stuff.
I'd love to read a nice thick well-written exhaustively researched book on the formative years of Image all the way up to its fall and comeback.
No mention of J. Scott Campbell years.
I love how, when it listed all of the popular new series, I was like “ I already wanted almost all of those”
Thank you for these videos
Now let's hear the story of Dark Horse Comics, or maybe IDW.
LONG LIVE IMAGE! POWER TO THE CREATORS!
4:42 of course Matt Fraction would use "bespoke" in describing his comic book. Of course.
thanks syfy. i feel a resurgence happening with Image.
The 2nd wave of Campbell and Ramos (among others) did so much more to propel Image forward than Portacio ever did. I'm sorry for his loss, but he didn't do a thing except be there when it happened.
Sorry, but Portacio actually did a lot more than the audience is aware of, perhaps because they were of the behind-the-scenes type. One of these things -- and in my opionion, amongst the biggest he's contributed to Image (and actually, THE ENTIRE COMIC INDUSTRY) -- is his having a hand at widely implementing digital coloring @ Image, which somehow pressured Marvel & DC upgrade their books' colors & has since become the industry standard. Another thing is mentoring artists who would then be the next wave of artists for Wildstorm/Image, some of whom are now comicbook superstars.
really great thing to ink to, great show
They missed touching on really ground breaking artists like Andy Park, Neil Gaiman, Billy Tan, Ron Marz, Scott Campbell and they breezed over Michael Turner like he was a speck...It was a informative documentary but I feel like it didn't paint the full picture, Image comics was even bigger than this documentary portrayed.
Wow so inspiring!
Gen13 and Bone were the first comics after the founding comics that were sought after before walking dead
Paper Girls was cancelled😂😂😂
Todd gave all his energy to comics with image..mmm...making basically one book this entire time but creating a toy line that is bigger than his one book..I am not diminishing what Image did ..but it is not like there are not examples of other makers that werent with the big two out there doing it before them..a little book called TMNT that spawned tv and movies came first..non superhero books like Love and Rockets and Cerberus for example that had a lot of acclaim ..certainly not at sales levels that books these days get..but a lot of it is the speculators all over again hoping these books go up in price once a tv or movie is made of it.
Where is that spawn movie?
Monstress is so good. I can't even...
Marc Silvestri looks like David Grohl now.
I love grant Morisons accent
Yes. Hes from Idaho.
He’s also an occultist
wow, some really wild comments below. Did nobody else see diversity in context? As in diversity of GENRES of books published? The comments ramble on with odd arguments and tangents, and don't mention what the doco did - that image went from that 90's superhero book company to image 2.0 with new GENRES and new creators doing non-superhero books. Way to go off topic people.