Technically, unless the song gets used in the story it will only be fanon. While it is part of the official soundtrack, it is not part of homestuck itself. Which is also why although Aradia has a fully lyrical song, she does not have a canon voice. But, following this there are technically "4" characters with canon voices: John, Gamzee, Lord English, and Yaldaboath.
Ton berry Yeah, she does! And Vicky's voice actress has read Homestuck and provided samples of what she thinks Rose and Vriska would sound like! Maybe she should give Meenah a try...
My wifi was being stupid while I was playing the flash game, so I listened to this damn song for like 40 minutes. Still love it tho, and I think that says something.
But for reals, I spoiled like, almost all of Homestuck for myself, I'm only up to act 6 intermission 2, but I do know who Meenah is, even before I met her in the webcomic
I love how it has kind of a spooky intro, but gradually gets better and better to sound pretty cute yet devious. Makes it sound exactly like my patron troll's personality :)
This has been foreshadowed in Feferi's introduction and Aranea's description of their version of the hemospectrum. Feferi said she would redefine culling as "aiding those in need" and in the pre-scratched Alternia, that's just what happened. The highbloods had a responsibility to help others and were obligated to do so. That's why Meenah abdicated the throne and fled to the pink moon. Also, note how the post-scratch players got along so well. They could've made a great society (save for Eridan).
Meenah's laugh at the beginning is just Feferi's from the end of her theme, Love You.You can tell it's literally the same song reversed for the start of this song.
+Megna Boron yeah, i didnt realize noticed until i thought about it for a little bit. It also helps that a lot of hidden things in HS music have been revealed to me lately.. Such as the morse code in Indigo Heir and Cobalt Thief.
Oh my glub, there are too many similarities between Feferi and Meenah's themes. 1) Love You, Hate You 2) The laughs at the end/ toward the very end 3) The laughs' time lapse in the overall song itself is very close in length 4) While the laughs are being made, the sound changes/ lessens in volume, but that could be expected to hear the laughs better
Maddie Kendall The beginning of the song is actually from the end of Love You, reversed and slowed down (so the beginning of the reversed version) ; and the end, after 2:09 is a slow tempo, darker remix of the beginning of Love You. They are also both track 7, and I'm sure a more skilled musician than I am could notice many more links between the two songs :]
I used to have this on a mix CD when I was a tween, and the opening part played one morning on the way to school, (those electric noises) to which my dad's eyes get big and he goes "i think something in the car is fucked up" but it was just the song, LOL
Information to all fellow Homestuck / Toby Fox lovers! This song's melody at 2:11 has made a new appearance in a Toby Fox original song with the topics of Circus, Carnival! "Greatest Living Show" at 0:22
toby fox is single handedly giving homestuck fans ptsd with how much he recycles. not that that’s a bad thing though, he’s a talented composer and any homestuck callback is fine by me!
Me: guh I hate being a *pisces we're always portrayed as these really weak nice-all-the-time super boring airheads. Me: *watches homestuck* Me: yeah no okay pieces is good.
@@gonzalomeadearanda5751 pisces* and bruh no feferi was good, but she just needed to have a bit more of a part in homestuck so we can explore her character more
came here to say how this song is burned into my memory permanently because of so hours spent in openbound and its good to see everyone else is in agreement here. it goes hard though
literally years later and this song still gets stuck in my head and i have to search for it because i always think it's meenahs theme for some reason so i always loop the rabbit hole of "no it's not that one, maybe it has a color in the title"
I had to replay that page of openbound and learn a bit more. She's good as far as pre-scratch trolls go, and I do see that it would be nice to learn a little bit more about her than what we were given in the story. However Meenah is best troll still.
Listening to hate you before love you made me have anxiety that love you is going to all of the sudden transition into the spooky downwards transition of hate you any second
Thank you, because right after hearing this (and being scared to death by Sollux's intro "On the double~" is the creepiest thing they could have said) I drew a picture of how I interpreted the series at that point. Sollux holding two groups of strings (red and blue for the two Hivebent groups he's building) and saying "Let's get moving~" Zoom in on the face "*On the double*~" really creepily....
This is my absolute favorite off the album. I just love the piano melody here, and how it mirrors Love You in a sinister way. I never thought I could like a song with wubs. But I do. Those cackles at the end, too.
This song makes me think of Genderbent BEN, so I guess we're almost on the same page here. The ending would be genderbent HMS and BEN. Aaaaaaaaaw yeeeeeeeeeee.
meenah and the condesce are like the two girls that Rob a candy store and feferi is the one that comes back with a payment and an apology
+Emilie Fournier Haha I want to see that happening so hard, at least in a fanart or something :33
Nepeta - lucky for you I'm an artist
Omg I need to see this
LET IT HAPPEN
:33 -I'm the most crappy artist this side of Canada but I will say that this is in progress.
Walking intensifies
+Bacon Lordess exactly
Funny joke.
oh my god
Truth
Oh yes
the stockholm syndrome from listening to this song during the flash game is so strong it's still here years later
That ain’t Stockholm syndrome, that’s Homestuck syndrome
@@StinkySeaGoat Stuckhome syndrome
homeholm syndrome.............@@CompleteBSRecords
This is so fucking real my brain physically rejects this song but it’s so fucking goood
this music triggers me so bad making me remember how LONG i spent wandering in those flash games to find EVERY DAMN SECRET.
... still a bop tho
HONESTLY,,, bc it would just play over and OVER and ur here like (whats in this chest.)
RIGHT
pard9n my language 6ut it's abs9lutely 6ullshit that this flash was made s9 inc9nsiderately 9f th9se with sh9rt attenti9n spans
@@Mae_Dastardly damn it, we lost another one... hes been infected with cognitive homestuckive disease
I do that to.
Just with me, i still end up missing every secret
This actually isn't bad when its not on repeat for HOURS
Geometry Dash moment
No/ I need 10hours version of this.
I actually felt tremendous amounts of relief when I got to switch characters
counterpoint: i could keep listening to this for hours
I went to read these parts the flash shit didn’t work so I just skipped it. Sounds like I made the right decision
Did I hear.. did I hear canon voices?
Yes.
Technically, unless the song gets used in the story it will only be fanon. While it is part of the official soundtrack, it is not part of homestuck itself. Which is also why although Aradia has a fully lyrical song, she does not have a canon voice. But, following this there are technically "4" characters with canon voices: John, Gamzee, Lord English, and Yaldaboath.
Song was used in Meenahquest 2. It's canon XD
HappyCatGraystripe
The song may have been used, making it canon, but did the laugh get used?
Derek360 What flash had Johns voice?
I love how Feferi's theme is called Love You, but Meenah's theme is called Hate You
+Prizmo Turtle I hate it.
+Xelipho haha, Funny Joke
Prizmo Turtle *bows*
very thanks
Julia that's my sister and me in a nutshell. I'm the little sister... ;;A;;
and I'm stuck being a scorpio
hate this
i listened to this song before reading homestuck and thought meenah was an evil version of feferi, like a wicked stepsister
I think it may be an ancestor?
+Theodore Georgiou
oh i know now that she's her dancestor, that's just what i thought before reading homestuck or knowing anything about it
I mean essentially...
In a way you were correct
Meenah has a cute evil laugh. HIC sounds like an anime or Disney villain.
but homstuc is bes anume
Meenah kinda sounds like Vicky from Fairly Odd parents.
Ton berry Yeah, she does!
And Vicky's voice actress has read Homestuck and provided samples of what she thinks Rose and Vriska would sound like! Maybe she should give Meenah a try...
CJCroen1393
She also voiced Rose with pretty much Mandy's voice which is pretty much as perfect as you can get.
Wesley Foxx
I remember that! :3 That was awesome!
My wifi was being stupid while I was playing the flash game, so I listened to this damn song for like 40 minutes.
Still love it tho, and I think that says something.
* peach-n-key * every time I saw this I thought you said wife but now after my like thirtieth time listening to this I realize you said wifi
PuLu
Lol what??? XD
ive just realised you wrote wifi not wife and i literally listen to this everyday and I have been for months now
the wifi *hate you*
* peach-n-key * lol
I don't even know what homestuck is, but when I hear this I can think of a whole world.
Lulu Lovesu Go for it. It's worth it. homestuck.com
actually, theres 4 worlds-
Actually worlds, universes, and parallell universes. Infinity, and beyond.
did you ever read it since you've made this comment?
I don't want to read Homestuck if it's some kind of weird fanfiction-like story with some gross fetishes
When i was still in Act 5, i thought this pic was feferi that turned into a rebel XD
Jxkdl that's kinda what Meenah is XD
Katherine Umphress trUE
But for reals, I spoiled like, almost all of Homestuck for myself, I'm only up to act 6 intermission 2, but I do know who Meenah is, even before I met her in the webcomic
Jxkdl omg me too@
Jxkdl HAHSHSH
I feel like homestuck is slowly brainwashing me to listen to dubstep through its music.
do it
I hated dubstep before Homestuck
Ondine 524 Me too. Now I'm kinda indifferent.
isn't this like dubstep 5 years ago
Its glubstep
I love how it has kind of a spooky intro, but gradually gets better and better to sound pretty cute yet devious. Makes it sound exactly like my patron troll's personality :)
Why is your name like thaf
@@aIchemizedlemniscate snapcube sonic adventure 2 dark story fandub
@@bonedoggle damn responding after 9 years, gamer move.
@@bonedogglewhat Is your patron troll
Maybe it's just me, but I feel like this song could easily fit into Super Paper Mario.
Dream Extracter Most likely the mansion in Gloam Valley.
+Dream Extracter oh shit you're right
YES!
ANYBODY NOTICE HOW THIS SONG SOUNDS LIKE "RUN MY DOG, RUN" FROM MOTHER 3?
Dream Extracter Sounds a lot like the villains' music in that game.
glubstep
Yeah, step because of all the walking
i just realized the ending of this song and love you(feferi's theme) sounds very similar except hers sound all cutesy when this sound psychotic
69th like
This has been foreshadowed in Feferi's introduction and Aranea's description of their version of the hemospectrum. Feferi said she would redefine culling as "aiding those in need" and in the pre-scratched Alternia, that's just what happened. The highbloods had a responsibility to help others and were obligated to do so. That's why Meenah abdicated the throne and fled to the pink moon.
Also, note how the post-scratch players got along so well. They could've made a great society (save for Eridan).
Meenah's laugh at the beginning is just Feferi's from the end of her theme, Love You.You can tell it's literally the same song reversed for the start of this song.
I think that's because it's kinda showing how Meenah is a distorted, hateful person, a complete opposite from the honest, kind person that Feferi is.
angel rivera Good point! I didn't even think about the symbolism of the reversing of Feferi's theme for Meenah. That makes total sense.
+Megna Boron yeah, i didnt realize noticed until i thought about it for a little bit. It also helps that a lot of hidden things in HS music have been revealed to me lately.. Such as the morse code in Indigo Heir and Cobalt Thief.
The fact that Toby is a game developer, musician of high level whit this and designer is crazy, most can't do a single one of these things.
Toby is a goat
You can hear meenah and the condesce laugh att the end xd
And the beginning sorta.
Just scrolling through comments and...
I thought it was Terezi, but I think you're right.
you can hear at the beggining too
no the beginning is actually feferi's laugh going backwards
Oh my glub, there are too many similarities between Feferi and Meenah's themes.
1) Love You, Hate You
2) The laughs at the end/ toward the very end
3) The laughs' time lapse in the overall song itself is very close in length
4) While the laughs are being made, the sound changes/ lessens in volume, but that could be expected to hear the laughs better
dude I played them at the same time and omg
Maddie Kendall The beginning of the song is actually from the end of Love You, reversed and slowed down (so the beginning of the reversed version) ; and the end, after 2:09 is a slow tempo, darker remix of the beginning of Love You. They are also both track 7, and I'm sure a more skilled musician than I am could notice many more links between the two songs :]
Favorite.
Theme.
In.
Homestuck.
+Scientifically Void agreed!
Dave and Meenah have the best songs hands down
Yeah, Dave's sounds cool! :)
Jade Harley Glad you agree. >B /
Heck yeah
2:43 *Use headphones* You can hear the laughs better and it's terrifing as hell cause I actually shedded a tear. It's the Condescension and Meenah
Meenah: Hate you
Meulin: Ship you
Kurloz: Sign you
Kankri: Trigger warn you
Cronus: Hit on you
Rufioh: Cheat on you
Des KARKAT: SCREW YOU
Justin Mintz **FUCK YOU, actually. Lol.
Well, yeah. but I was being kid friendly. ah well. life goes on.
Justin Mintz A bit strange considering that Homestuck is the farthest thing from kid friendly. But ok haha
Pretty much, yeah.
412,922 views we are so close to 413,000 views
Perhaps we can get to 4130 likes?
James Liner 3 likes away now :p
... 8|
+Tuan Nguyen 8^Y
NOW ITS GONNA HIT 1000000 VIEWS BOYS
Heehee its GLUBstep :D
- _ -
fuck you too bitch
+AkemiKitty kK bRoThEr
+Kylie Greyson gOoD...vErY gOoD
HeHe :o)
I miss these times
Same bruh
its feferi's theme, but thematically and literally backwards
THIS FUCKING THEME HOLY SHIT I SPENT HOURS LISTENING TO THIS WHILE PLAYING THE FLASH GAMES
I used to have this on a mix CD when I was a tween, and the opening part played one morning on the way to school, (those electric noises) to which my dad's eyes get big and he goes "i think something in the car is fucked up"
but it was just the song, LOL
After 5 years this song finally reached 1 million views, and it definitely deserves it.
After 10 years, 2 million!
5y l8r now 2 mil i love continuity
1:40 AHHH THIS IS WHERE IT GETS GOOD PEOPLE
no.. maybe
and the war begins
I FOUND YOU JOHN MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
+John Egbert A2 long a2 iit2 not frans.
Y I see u everywhere
Information to all fellow Homestuck / Toby Fox lovers! This song's melody at 2:11 has made a new appearance in a Toby Fox original song with the topics of Circus, Carnival!
"Greatest Living Show" at 0:22
toby fox is single handedly giving homestuck fans ptsd with how much he recycles. not that that’s a bad thing though, he’s a talented composer and any homestuck callback is fine by me!
Me: guh I hate being a *pisces we're always portrayed as these really weak nice-all-the-time super boring airheads.
Me: *watches homestuck*
Me: yeah no okay pieces is good.
metalgearkite btw it's spelled Pisces. Not Pieces
I'm pieces myself and I loved meenah, but fuck Feferi.
@@gonzalomeadearanda5751 pisces* and bruh no feferi was good, but she just needed to have a bit more of a part in homestuck so we can explore her character more
@@gonzalomeadearanda5751 Feferi helped make the dream bubbles. Without them, you wouldn't know about meenah.
@@noblexenon2147 Burn.
I can hear Terezi laughiung. Aaaand maybe Condencse.
I think it's both of them
Malarim Enar I thought it was simply Condense and Meenah.
Its meenah and the condence not terezi. Terezi wouldn't be in another trolls theme
***** It sounds like terezi.
***** It's just my headcanon. :3
Glubstep...
one of my favorite genres of music
and certainly better than that mainstream crap.
*main-stream carp
howaboutno X33
you know if you don't like something just because it's mainstream you're still letting the mainstream dictate what you like and dislike in a way
look in the sky!
its a bird!
its a plane!
no, it's the joke going over your haed!
_woooooosh_
Why am I imagining Meenah dancing with other Homestuck characters
It's alright, I am seeing it too lol
EnderWolf
Dubstep
WHY I CAN SEE CRAPPY MMDS NOW! DXXXD
More importantly
why did i suddenly imagine dirty dancing
You now have put that in my heaf
I love how when you meet Feferi, your like, aww she's so sweet! And then Meenah comes along, and your like, Oh Shit.
omg, if you play this and Love you at the same time it sound so cool!
o-o What am I experiencing? IS THIS REAL? OR FANTASY?
TheEvilOne765 IKR!
It sounds better if Love You is at 100% volume, and Hate You is at 50% volume, because Hate You blows over Love You with its dubstep.
Ahnock That Guy.
very true.
Woah you're right. That was amazing.
Homestuck music is too good
△greed X:)
Plot twist: Condesce had the lighter laugh and Meenah has the deeper laugh at the end
came here to say how this song is burned into my memory permanently because of so hours spent in openbound and its good to see everyone else is in agreement here. it goes hard though
literally years later and this song still gets stuck in my head and i have to search for it because i always think it's meenahs theme for some reason so i always loop the rabbit hole of "no it's not that one, maybe it has a color in the title"
Ngl Meenah's theme fits perfectly in terraria
perfect theme for perfect character #meenahdefensesquad2k14
#meenah defence squad 2k15
yes I agree and you wont see me agreeing with trolls often
+Moki149 defense squid*
***** congrats my friend you have carried on the legacy
#meenahdefensesquid2k16
Why do I like a song that...
*hates me?*
*BA DUM TSSSS*
ayyyyy lmao
Meenah is best troll.
I had to replay that page of openbound and learn a bit more. She's good as far as pre-scratch trolls go, and I do see that it would be nice to learn a little bit more about her than what we were given in the story. However Meenah is best troll still.
Im gonna slap you
Because you're a troll and properly understand the romance it entails.
omg ive seen this song almost every time i go into "this section" of youtube
but i dint think this song could be this cool!!!
This song gives me nostalgia back to when I was a toddler reading about space objects
WHO COMPOSED THIS
*WHO FuCKING COMPOSED THIS*
*_WAS IT YOu, FOX?_*
That was feferi's theme
Yep. :) It says so on the the songs info thing.
pinosilky Fox is like...a music god, kinda.
+Squid Ninja 428 who is fox?
+Golden Elephant Toby fox
OH MY GOSH I USED TO LISTEN TO THIS FOREVER,,,?????
+Sans [ICON: ttoba/tumblr] im so late "3 weeks ago" but i JUST found this again and i used to have like 200 repeats of this im cryin man
I dont know why, but I always prefered Meenah over Feferi.
because meenah actually did something relavant to the story
Because meenah was given more character development:C
oh my god just synced this with love you fef's theme and its amazing
Reminds me of Malachite for some strange reason.
Mixed with Sugilite :3
YEE
no
Shes still underwater and this is the theme of a seadweller sooo....maybe that's why? I dunno
Same
Toby fox is really good at making catchy music
this is the coolest Homestuck song ever!
Hy Anya with y i'm Anja with j :3
This makes me proud to be Pisces.
Same
Me too! Also Feferi's theme, Love You
Love you too lol
No, no, Feferi's theme is literally called Love You.
Ok lol
Listening to hate you before love you made me have anxiety that love you is going to all of the sudden transition into the spooky downwards transition of hate you any second
wow this new plants vs zombies has some really good music
АХАХАХАХАХ
I love this song, but I still have "Fuchsia Ruler" as my ringtone :v
Everytime i hear my phone i think of her clamphone :v
A thought: At the end with the laughing, the higher pitched is Meenah and the lower is Condy
Help youtube made mix called music of japan and it's just homestuck music
same
Well obviously, Homestuck is an anime after all
Thank you, because right after hearing this (and being scared to death by Sollux's intro "On the double~" is the creepiest thing they could have said) I drew a picture of how I interpreted the series at that point. Sollux holding two groups of strings (red and blue for the two Hivebent groups he's building) and saying "Let's get moving~" Zoom in on the face "*On the double*~" really creepily....
this makes me so nostalgic
This is my absolute favorite off the album. I just love the piano melody here, and how it mirrors Love You in a sinister way. I never thought I could like a song with wubs. But I do. Those cackles at the end, too.
canon voices ???
This track is sick
this sounds like something out of Celeste (the plataform game)
welcome to the next 2 hours of gameplay
No matter how hard I try I keep coming back
that beginning part is especially creepy.
middle is my favorite part
last part, also creepy.
+That One Random Artist (Brooke Maloney) The beginning part is actually the reverse of the end part of 'Love You'.
that is very cool! thank you for informing me :3
zamn how silly of me to remove this from my music playlist like 6 years ago this bangs
HOLY FUCK I FORGOT I HAD MY VIDEO ON 200% FASTER AND IT SOUND AWSOME OMG
It does haha
1.5 is good as well.
to me it sounds like meenah has to pee really bad and is trying to find a bathroom
the main melody reminds me of those Russian pop song contests my grandma watches.
The second part makes me think gravity falls
(facepalms)
gravity.....
falls.....
(facepalm 2x combo)
+Pinip_F_Werty Do you know what Gravity Falls is?
+NerdyMCgamer Unfortunately....
+Pinip_F_Werty So why the facepalm?
+NerdyMCgamer I just really hate it. Whether conquipescent or platonic, I cannot say. However, it is a true hate nonetheless.
^u^
I love how the laugh in both songs (feferis I love you and minas I hate you) have the laugh at oppisite ends♡♡
You already know what's coming after this.
The laugh at the end kind of reminds me of majora's mask.
This song makes me think of Genderbent BEN, so I guess we're almost on the same page here. The ending would be genderbent HMS and BEN. Aaaaaaaaaw yeeeeeeeeeee.
Wind Waker Link ...no. Another creepypasta fandom member. Nope, stop ruining creepypastas.
I'm not ruining anything, I was sharing what I saw play out in my mind when I heard the song. I know it's Condesce and Meenah.
How can one person ruin a fandom anyway...?
this song is fucking based holy fuck
That's definitely Vriska and Terezi laughing at the end... weird for a Mina song.
Drawn to life. That is all.
*YES*
*HOLY **_MACKEREL_** I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY PERSON WHO PLAYED THAT*
HOLY SHITT I REMEMBER THAT SO FONDLY !! I COULD NEVER GET PAST THE ANGLER KING AND IT PISSED ME OFF SO MUCH OH MY GOD
did you mean
)(ate You
)-(ate You.
her theme is my favorite :o)
happy 413!
the slaping sound is her slaping cronus
This song is so lovely.
And that laughter ohmygawd Meenah why does your laugh have to be adorabubble
*collapse*
oh great, more walking
I fucking love meenah. I wanna cosplay her one day. (along with mituna)
Do it! I loved cosplaying both of them. :)
I wanna cosplay as Meenah and Feferi, I will be doing Fef anyways so just Meenah lol
UnderStuck HomeTale whii2h gemiinii 2roll 2hould ii co2play a2h?
God this is probably one of my top 5 Homestuck songs.. It's such a banger
Gamzee: Confuse you.
God, this theme just playing over and over during the dancestor section where you play as Meenah. Don't get me wrong, it's a banger of a song.
what the hell is this songn man i just played my mix i listent o daily onn oyiutube then this bondonkrs appears outa nowhere man
The ending is my favourite part. ouo
Same
It sounds like the laughs could be the Condesce and the Heiress.
I have 0 idea who any of these people are I heard this song on a Toby video and wanted to hear it
Join the homestuck fandom. You’ll only be 6 years late
Beautiful.
i need another called "Tolerate You"
The sounds starting at 0:38 sound a lot like Terraria cave sounds, no clue why
i’m vibing to this in 2020 lololol
no offense but after coming back to this after like 2 years it kinda sounds like a song for pvz