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- Cheap 12 Inch Brushless Spal Fans. In This video I show you the 12" Spal Fans I got out of a 2012 Chevy Volt. I hook them up to see if they work and show you the settings I use to make them spin with the Holley Terminator X software and ECU.
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Overall size of the fan is 16.5 x 26.5 x 3.5 with some wings that stick out you could use or just cut off.
Hey brother I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart .I figured the cooling fans they work amazing . God bless thank for all the information
Thank you for the comment. I always enjoy when someone finds the content useful. I know I search the internet to learn stuff as well so its always cool to hear that I helped someone out!
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I grabbed two 10 inch pusher fans off a 2010 Land Rover SUV for $17 each at U-Pull and put them in front of my 1990 F150 AC condenser and now my AC went from 65 F in stop and go traffic with 96 F ambient to 47 F out the vents....Salvage yard OEM parts are far better and cheaper than new on-line knockoff garbage...great video!!
Thank you! Just make sure you wire the OE fans properly and they are better than aftermarket junk for sure.
Hi ! Can you says from witch SUV model you take them, or better, a genuine reference. Thanks 👌
Love those fans, I used the Z06 fan on my last ls swap and I'm using the big dog 19" fan in my latest swap. BEAST
The 19" Is rad But I didnt have the room for It on here
Just found a pair at the U-pull out of a Volt and remembered having in my 14. Spal are my go to like a McIntosh receiver. Signal wire sealed brushless and the Spal housing for a fraction! Now I have my rugged set for the continuous solenoid set up and one to run at my exact needs. Great right up bro, not many know.
Fantastic ‼️ those fans move some serious air. That should make a big difference cooling the boom
I hope so. I think the Twinnebago is getting a set as well. After messing with these all my projects will have them form here out.
Great information I have been wondering how to do this
Hope it helps. These things are awesome. Everyone needs a set!
Dude! This is the bee's knees! Thanks for the info for the Holley/PWM crew.
Im pretty excited about them! They sound so wicked at speed!
Like the info. Surprised no one mentioned the thumbnail says burshless and not brushless.
Well that's not good. Late night thumbnail strikes again. .. Thank you
Bad ass. The signal wire makes me wonder if there’s a built in mossfet driver Since brushless motors run on ac. Thanks for the tip 🤙
Yes the fans have a built in controller.
How would you wire them without a pwm controller? Just ground the wire when you want them on?
Awesome vid. I was looking for something like this for my build I called at my local junkyard which is hour and a half away and order me some pick them up Saturday. Thanks
Nice! It looks like BMW 390 fans are a good size brushless option as well. Just depends on the size radiator you have is all. The C7 Vett have a 14 set up. That one will draw some amps tho so wire it properly or you may have some issues.
Did you wire them through a relay or straight from the Holly to the fan.
@@mitchellwood1833 I wired them to the starter with fussble links and ground to the chassis. The Holley just sends signal to them is all and it’s a negative signal
If the controller failed you could probably open it and solder on a brushless motor controller but I don't know about that input signal
I bet you could figure it out if you had the time to mess with it. You can take the motor out of the shroud so anything is possible.
Nice! So you only use one of the outputs from the Holley. If my F150 fans ever die I may go with a set up like this.
Yes power them and then its a singe PWM signal from the Holley to control them both.
Awesome. I just hooked some dodge intrepid fans up to my ls swap s10
They work well too?
Thanks for the info.
Man I thought I was Subbed to your channel! I am now. They work great! I have them on both my vehicles. Had one go out on the Twinnebago but put another one on and good to go. I may make a shroud and throw one on a true cool for my transmission on the boom 😁
I guess spal is a brand maybe that makes them for OEMs or something but just brushless motor is the important part
Spal is the brand yes. Other OEMs have brushless motors on some vehicles as well. The brushless design and the sealed motor is what make these good.
What a kickass setup
It works awesome. I want to try the 19" fan next.
@@Burndown that beast is designed for multy stack coolers oem is $286 on rockauto , used is double of that on ebay
You won't regret it
170 amp or more Alternator upgrade is a must
Awesome tip! just one quick question, do you know if the PWM signal has to be a positive or negative signal (PWM to ground or 5V positive?) Thanks!
The fan is hooked to direct power and the pwm is a negative from the ecu
For fan power what size fuse are you using? Great set of videos. They have been very helpful
I used a fusable link on the power side to the starter. I have not tested the amp draw on these fans but they are 400 watts I believe so a 30 amp would probably do it if you went with a fuse.
Hello I have a 1987 mercedes 300d with the 3.L turbo diesel.
Currently it has a clutch fan that i want to swap out for electric fan.
The cooling surface on my radiator is 19x29. You have any suggestions for a fan
I can use. I cant use a fan like what you have because there is no computer
So I would need to run relays from temp switch. I live in the boise area which is often 100deg and up. And if you run ac the motor runs hotter than I like.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time. Robert
This fan needs a PWM signal form the computer to work properly. I would just source a good OEM fan form a junkyard that will fit your radiator. If you can take the wiring that goes to the fan as well so you will have the correct gauge wire to put into your car. Make sure its done properly or you risk damage or fire if things get shorted out without proper gauge wires and fusing.
Thank you when you finish the table please do another video how too..
I have it up. Its in the twinnebago section. Look for the hill fan switch video. Thats how im running them right now.
Good morning got another question. You use the Gm factory temp sensor or the one on volt . Can’t get fan running
@@BurndownGood evening I will like to know what is the part number for the hill switch. Can find the video . Thank you for your help.
Is this only for the GM genuine fan assembly that they are SPAL? I'm seeing them as discontinued but TYC, Spectra, and Murray all make aftermarket replacements
The Genuine GM are made by Spal. I have no idea how well or not the others work. Just make sure its brushless and im sure it would rip.
OEM spal...nice!!
Yeah. C7 and 2016 Camaro have them in larger sizes as well.
Pretty good no-nonsense DIY video. I did something similar with a set of Ford 12" dual fans out of a 2002 Ford Contour. Ford uses Bosch motors but they are not brushless. I have them in a custom shroud, cut away all the excess material just saved some sections for flanges. Don't think they are as powerful as the SPALs you're using. I'm trying to cool a 461 BBC with a Holley double pumper using an external PWM. I want to know how you can control these fans, is there an aftermarket controller that will work with brushless fans? What about temp sensor? Gonna check out your page and see if you have the next steps. How big is the actual shroud section without the side wings?
Im on Holley EFI so it will send a PWM signal to them directly. The controller is built into these fans so all you need is a signal. I think you can get an aftermarket PWM signal generator to run them but im not 100% sure on that. I have a few videos on the brushless fans so check them out and if I don't answer your questions in the video just leave a comment and ill get back to you. You can also find me on IG and send me a DM as well. Thanks for watching !
@@Burndown I have discovered that GM rates those fans at 300 WATTS each, so its a total of 600 WATTS. The science is above my pay grade, but I'm curious about how much CFM that 600 WATTS is equivalent to. You have any idea? I haven't actually stuck a ruler on a set of Volt fans, but I _think_ the blade ring diameter is 12" and the flange opening would be around 13". I haven't been able to nail down this with the Spal web page, but I'm trying. I wrote to them (the Italian page) but no response yet.
@@mikelangieri6602 From my understanding it's going to be difficult to get data on these. I just picked up a c7 z06 fan (about 14") that's 600w for one. I'm excited to get it going! I love that GM is putting these in factory applications, really drives down the cost of these things.
Would these fans be a good choice for my setup? 70 Chevelle LS swapped, twin turbo, air to air blocking the front of the radiator and I’m currently putting air conditioning on the car and the condenser will be between the radiator and intercooler. Super budget build I need a good brushless junkyard find the Holley can control
you ever hear about a CFM rating on these?
I don't know if your radiator is wider than my 64 chevy is. If you can find these they work great. I have them on my car still.
Look up a brushless 12" spal fan
is there anyway to get them to come on with the a/c
If your using a terminator x you will have to run an output I believe and it will have AC kick.
What is start amperage and running amperage full speed?
I believe these are 400 watt motors each. You can look up SPAL brushless fans and get details I bet. The Corvette are 400 or 600 watts and the Camaro is 800 watts!
Nice 👍. I’ll be stealing this 😁
Go for it!
Getter done bro great fan set up
Yeah this will make the motor nice and happy
What fans are these from
Great info. What fan would you recommend for 65 chevy c10? I currently run 14 in generic brand and looking to upgrade. My truck is just a 350 small block with mild cam abd headers. Would greatly appreciate your input.
You would probably need a brushed fan because your not running a Holley. Maybe go on rock auto and look up some Silverado fans from the mid 2000s and see if something like that works. Make sure you use the proper wiring for them as they will probably pull some amps and you don’t want to burn anything up.
Good work dude!
Wait till you seem me destroy them trying to make them fit my radiator 🙌🤣
Does a gen 3 ecu control them or signal on? Or am I looking at an aftermarket controller? Any ideas?
You would need an aftermarket controller to make them run. If you look up PWM fan on TH-cam you can find stuff I think if your interested in trying to run a set.
@@Burndown I essentially have a 68 chevelle radiator size with a 6.0 4l80, 6875 and a car on the heavier side i plan on driving to hot August nights or ls fest west distances. So that fan setup looks like it would be perfect. Especially for around 200 bucks. I would love the terminator but a bit out of reach for now
Would the 2016 volt fans work the same?
Yes I believe so.
@@Burndown thanks!
Great work, thanks for the information
I hear quite a few late model cars have brushless as well. Not sure what you guys get in OZ land but im sure you have cars with brushless fans too.
@@Burndown I live in Connecticut
Do you have the dimensions for that fan setup? I have a small Radiator and wonder if they will fit.
I pinned a comment with measurements so look at the top comment for size.
great job, so no relays are needed with this setup?
No it has a built In Controller. You will need to be able to send a pwm signal to it is all
@@Burndown Thanks!
Thanks for your video. How many Hz need the pwm controller to adjust the velocity?
They respond for me between 100-120 hrz and turn on at 15 and off over 95%
Do you have a link to the fans ?
No. These are from a 2012 Chevy Volt . I bought them at a junkyard. Not sure if you can find them new online or not.
@@Burndown I doubt I would find them in a junkyard I’m in Australia thanks anyway
Great video!
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how many watts or amperage each are these chevy volt 12 inch fan ???? C7 Corvette 600watts ,,what diameter ??
12” 400 watts
need 10 inch
These are 12
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get a couple sets make a hovercraft
I bet with enough juice and 4 of the 19" fans I could 🤣
Do you have the connector part number?
No I pulled the wiring with the fan and bought it all together
@@Burndown thanks. Good video
Are you PWM negative or PWM positive?
Never mind, your on terminator so it’s negative. Sorry, trying to set up the 19 inch on my dominator.
@@TechMarcB It will be negative for the fan signal
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FUN FUN!!!
@@Burndown My man!
You can all follow this video and go try to source you those fans from a yard....or you can check this video out and go grab you a Mercedes fan that will pretty much destroy both these fans th-cam.com/video/kGylouOxVL0/w-d-xo.html
What size are the Mercedes fans? I didn't see any 12" ones.
@@Burndown 12 inch?? We're talking about cooling car engines, not computers 🙂. If you use the smaller C-class fan, you're looking at a little over 18 inches. Otherwise, if you want the big S-class fan, that's a little over 20 inches, but that one also comes with an additional 250 watts, so about 850 watt for the larger one. Actually, now that I think about it, you could source a smaller 12-13 inch fan from some of the the older model Mercedes like the w202 or even the w140. They came with 3 fans: a larger viscous clutch fan for the radiator and 2 smaller 12-13 inch fans for the condenser. Even still, those dual Bosch fans did put out a ton of air.
I don't do junk yard race cars sorrt
Get them new on rock auto
90% of people build there cars with all kinds of different parts junk yard or not they are just parts.
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What fans are these from
chevy volt