Panorama investigates the case which has sparked outrage among doctors - a junior doctor convicted of manslaughter and then struck off the medical register for her role in the death of a boy.
Very scary story but she was not alone is this disaster! What happened that consultant who was asked to review case ? Where is he ? This is system failure not individual's failure. Working as healthcare professional you are push to limit, seriously some day you find yourself crying in toilet cos you are doing 5 people's job: understaffed, underaprociated profession. When you visit healthcare professional next time observe from distance how they are juggling 10 task and still smiling. Surely this is not acceptable.and no parents should ever have kiss goodbye to their baby, trust me I know cos I'm a mother too, I cried when I watch this documentary but this is not a solution! I was shocked to hear how mother only blamed on one doctor! Hospital is team, it's not isolated work, had that IT issue not occur doctor would be able to make better decision. Doctors decision making is not hearsay, it has to be evidence based e.g. lab report, patient's reactions symptoms one fails it has swish cheese effect.
@@wulliest and yet how shockingly you have on a white profile pic, good to have some acknowledgement on the racism here BY white people! I hope you are truly white as your profile pic
Same! If anything she’ll be so determined not to make the same mistake again she’ll be more careful than the other doctors in the ward. However I don’t think I’d wanna be treated in that hospital after reading up what the culture was like in their, terribly sad for all staff involved who r trying their best
Imbeciles. She isn't even trained or qualified as most who come out of Africa (where they should stay and work) aren't, but you will allow them to endanger your family because you are narcissists and to prove you are anti-racist?!?? Utterly pitiful.
“You could fire everybody, punish everybody and put in an entirely new workforce, you will have the same injuries and the same errors occur again unless you’ve actually changed the systems of work,”
I feel srry for this dr, I worked at LRI years ago but didnt know this dr, it is a truly awful hospital. Drs and nurses are human and will make mistakes especially when put under so much pressure. Really disgusted by the racist comments I can see.
No single person is to blame for that tragedy. When you work in a busy hospital as a doctor on-call, you'll understand the things we do, the hurdles we jump, the tasks we juggle, the miles we run in order to treat your loved ones and about 25 others... We need more doctors and better systems overall. Tragic mistakes can happen, but to blame someone who had an otherwise "impeccable" record and strike them off the register is criminal in itself. The whole case was a revenge manhunt imo. And she's probably one of the best paediatricians in the country now as a result of all the scrutiny. So yes, I'd definitely let her treat my child 👍
The doctor is not the problem in this story. The problem here is the system, lots of failures in the system given basket to carry water. It would have happened to any doctor in the same situation. You choose not to forgive the doctor who was in a very very difficult situation trying to help your child and was the only person working caring for many other very ill children. That is your opnion and you are entitled to it but it is not realistic. You are hurting which is expected but have to be reasonable at the same time. Even if the doctor was struck off it does not change anything as the issue is a system failure. I would let that doctor treat my children. Sue the hospital for failure in there system and see if you can get some compensation at least. The healthcare professionals are overworked and have little time to make decisions not fair on them and expected to do a brilliant job. NHS is very short staff and qualified people are very difficult to find. You say you will never forgive and there was no deliberate intension, Do you expect black people and ethnic minority to forget about 400+ years of slavery and colonisation which were deliberate intensions?
While I sympathise with Jack's family, they are looking for someone to blame because that is frankly easier than admitting the system is broken. No doctor, especially one returning to practice, should have been working under the conditions she was and expected to meet the standard of care required. In other jobs, mistakes may be costly, but rarely deadly. I hope the family realise this reality and join medics and other healthcare professionals pushing for structural change.
But the mother also gave the child enalapril in hospital which led to his cardiac arrest. It's more than one person to blame here including the system, the consultant...this doctor was used as a scapegoat. I sympathise with the family but it's hard to watch the harsh comments when enalapril was given by her as well.
If u read the full case files and judgment you’ll realise it was a systematic fault. I do medical law and we did this case as part of an essay and on the front of it you think she’s guilty but looking further into it you’ll change your mind quite fast
@@bluekhan5591 exactly, yes she made some poor judgments with tragic outcomes, but she was not alone in this. this case outlined that problems that the NHS are faced with
She was doing the job of 4 doctors over six wards and 4 floors, dealing with multiple pediatric emergencies, no senior consultant, heavily understaffed, IT failure after coming back from maternity leave so was no acclimatised to the understanding crisis. And doctors face this kind of issues all the time resulting in many mistakes This is not the only time to will happen
Very scary story but she was not alone is this disaster! What happened that consultant who was asked to review case ? Where is he ? This is system failure not individual's failure. Working as healthcare professional you are push to limit, seriously some day you find yourself crying in toilet cos you are doing 5 people's job: understaffed, underaprociated profession. When you visit healthcare professional next time observe from distance how they are juggling 10 task and still smiling. Surely this is not acceptable.and no parents should ever have kiss goodbye to their baby, trust me I know cos I'm a mother too, I cried when I watch this documentary but this is not a solution! I was shocked to hear how mother only blamed on one doctor! Hospital is team, it's not isolated work, had that IT issue not occur doctor would be able to make better decision. Doctors decision making is not hearsay, it has to be evidence based e.g. lab report, patient's reactions symptoms one fails it has swish cheese effect.
The managerial wagons circled to protect the white consultant, whereas the disposable immigrant junior doctor was thrown to the GMC wolves.
@@wulliest and yet how shockingly you have on a white profile pic, good to have some acknowledgement on the racism here BY white people! I hope you are truly white as your profile pic
And yes I would let that doctor treat my children! 💯
Me too.
Same! If anything she’ll be so determined not to make the same mistake again she’ll be more careful than the other doctors in the ward. However I don’t think I’d wanna be treated in that hospital after reading up what the culture was like in their, terribly sad for all staff involved who r trying their best
Imbeciles. She isn't even trained or qualified as most who come out of Africa (where they should stay and work) aren't, but you will allow them to endanger your family because you are narcissists and to prove you are anti-racist?!?? Utterly pitiful.
“You could fire everybody, punish everybody and put in an entirely new workforce, you will have the same injuries and the same errors occur again unless you’ve actually changed the systems of work,”
I feel srry for this dr, I worked at LRI years ago but didnt know this dr, it is a truly awful hospital. Drs and nurses are human and will make mistakes especially when put under so much pressure. Really disgusted by the racist comments I can see.
No single person is to blame for that tragedy. When you work in a busy hospital as a doctor on-call, you'll understand the things we do, the hurdles we jump, the tasks we juggle, the miles we run in order to treat your loved ones and about 25 others... We need more doctors and better systems overall. Tragic mistakes can happen, but to blame someone who had an otherwise "impeccable" record and strike them off the register is criminal in itself. The whole case was a revenge manhunt imo.
And she's probably one of the best paediatricians in the country now as a result of all the scrutiny. So yes, I'd definitely let her treat my child 👍
The doctor is not the problem in this story. The problem here is the system, lots of failures in the system given basket to carry water. It would have happened to any doctor in the same situation. You choose not to forgive the doctor who was in a very very difficult situation trying to help your child and was the only person working caring for many other very ill children. That is your opnion and you are entitled to it but it is not realistic. You are hurting which is expected but have to be reasonable at the same time. Even if the doctor was struck off it does not change anything as the issue is a system failure. I would let that doctor treat my children. Sue the hospital for failure in there system and see if you can get some compensation at least. The healthcare professionals are overworked and have little time to make decisions not fair on them and expected to do a brilliant job. NHS is very short staff and qualified people are very difficult to find.
You say you will never forgive and there was no deliberate intension, Do you expect black people and ethnic minority to forget about 400+ years of slavery and colonisation which were deliberate intensions?
While I sympathise with Jack's family, they are looking for someone to blame because that is frankly easier than admitting the system is broken. No doctor, especially one returning to practice, should have been working under the conditions she was and expected to meet the standard of care required. In other jobs, mistakes may be costly, but rarely deadly. I hope the family realise this reality and join medics and other healthcare professionals pushing for structural change.
Yes, I would be happy for her to treat my child
But the mother also gave the child enalapril in hospital which led to his cardiac arrest. It's more than one person to blame here including the system, the consultant...this doctor was used as a scapegoat. I sympathise with the family but it's hard to watch the harsh comments when enalapril was given by her as well.
Can't blame a single person.
Every Mum's nightmare, she will never get over the death of her son. The hospital staff should be accountable for his death.
Every society's nightmare is dealing with stupid incompetent mom's, she should be charged for murder for killing his child by giving him medication
You don't even know if he would have survived even with proper treatment
If u read the full case files and judgment you’ll realise it was a systematic fault. I do medical law and we did this case as part of an essay and on the front of it you think she’s guilty but looking further into it you’ll change your mind quite fast
Oh I’d never go to her..I’d say she made wrong judgements ,,,the boy died ,,,wth is wrong with her ..
She was junior doctor. Why was she not supervised by consultants? They were also short staffed. Can’t just blame one person 🤷🏽
@@bluekhan5591 exactly, yes she made some poor judgments with tragic outcomes, but she was not alone in this. this case outlined that problems that the NHS are faced with
She was doing the job of 4 doctors over six wards and 4 floors, dealing with multiple pediatric emergencies, no senior consultant, heavily understaffed, IT failure after coming back from maternity leave so was no acclimatised to the understanding crisis.
And doctors face this kind of issues all the time resulting in many mistakes
This is not the only time to will happen