And yet originally, he was to be Charles and Jeremy Irons was set to be Sebastian. I'm glad that didn't happen. I've read the novel several times, and this production was damn near perfect. The movie was an abomination. Goeffrey Burgon's score is magic.
It will be very difficult, almost impossible, to have a drama better than this one. The beautiful haunting music Tells us that there will be no happy ending, as does the wonderful narration by Jeremy Irons. Brideshead Revisited will Always remain an absolute classic, and rightly so.
you should also read Sword of Honour by Waugh, a prince othe English language. Waugh went to his commanding officer during WWII about 1943 and said "I say old chap,... I was working on the classic anglo - Catholic novel when this damned war intervened - do you think that I might have 9 months off to write it ?" And he did. THen he was air dropped into Yugoslavia at the young age of 42 as a liaison man between Tito and the British airforce. Quite a character. Five years is a long time - you may well no longer be under the Oliver name. Never mind someone else may see the comment. TE. Fidler , a south seas Britisher.
I believe myself very near to heaven, during those languid days at Brideshead. It is thus I like to remember Sebastian, as he was that summer, when we wondered alone together through that enchanted palace.... Ah, the longing, wistfully beautiful prose of Evelyn Waugh.
I will always remember those lines. I remember similar summers. Being young has that effect and it is a sepcial and wonderful time in love before anything happens when colours are so bright and enthusiasm reigns. It will ever be thus.
You're quite right. It was wasted on me at age ten. But I did find Charles and Sebastian's friendship very beautiful, because it was the first time I had ever seen love between two men depicted with such grace.
watching the first few episodes of this series and watching the pairs beautiful chemistry made me smile on so many occasions. i could feel their joy through the screen, it was a really magical experience watching this series for the first time and i wish i could turn back time and do it all over again. these two men truely loved eachother and i think thats what makes the ending even more heartbreaking
I shall always remember the haunting words of Charles Ryder (Jeremy Irons) when he said “That is how I like to remember Sebastian, as he was during those languid summer days at Brideshead”, speaking as an army captain barracked with his men at Brideshead Castle 20 years later. He tells us that sadly, their friendship and relationship would not last and all that he now has of Brideshead Castle and the family living there is memories over 2 decades or so. A permanent relationship with the family was, sadly, destined never to be.
Seeing bits and pieces of Brideshead after oh so many years when it was televised and it interested me only a little - I now know what held my interest. It was sound itself, not sight. The music that played with such elegance, the voices of Jeremy Irons and Anthony Andrews, their beauty and melifluousness. No, it was not the story which only glancingly touched me, not the performances - it was the sound of the music and the sound of their voices.
Magnífica!, una serie espléndida y una lectura sublime, es una exquisita descripción de un mundo y una época dorada, de las relaciones de dos seres solitarios que se encuentran en un torbellino de situaciones sociales que les llevan a separarse para siempre. Hermosa serie televisiva.
it ought to be just like this always... ain't that the truth.. incredibly sad to watch after knowing what becomes of our beloved Sebastian. the series almost presents us with a bait and switch: at the beginning, we are shown two young men in love, frolicking and drinking (but not in that destructive, excessive way, not quite yet) wine, their own paradise. and the rest of the series tears it all away, until all that is left is an empty hospital bed in Morocco and a military base. but at least the sanctuary lamp still burns. how I wish they could just live in this episode forever.. this is how I'd like to remember Sebastian as well, in an eternal summer with the one he loves...
loved sebastian, a deep, very beautyful, man, almost like a child, so soulful, person, i think they were in love with eachother, i don´t know, but, i understand charles effection, and fashination for sebastian.
Excellent British TV serie. Better than the film. Amazing performances of Jeremy Irons and Anthony Andrews. Definitely they were the only Charles and Sebastian. They were perfect on their roles.
@Constellation05 -- I suppose it's true that music is in the ear of the hearer. I consider the music from Brideshead Revisited to be a perfect match to the series. The sonorous notes, especially in "Sebastian's Summer," reflect the grandeur of the period commonly known as England's last Golden Age. I have both the album and the CD, and whenever I play the music, wherever I am, I'm transported immediately back to the series. Such is the power of music!
Just wonderful. Perhaps the best scenes of the best series ever...although at the opposite end of the spectrum I equally adore the first series of Auf Weidersehen Pet.
One blessing they had whilst making this series is that it was clearly a far nicer summer than any we've had in recent times. Up north here, it would have taken eons to shoot these scenes had it been any of the last four so-called summers.
There are quite a few scenes in which I would have loved for them to kiss or show more affection, but the chemistry between them is so beautiful and well done that you don't need the physical side of this romance to understand the deep intimacy shared by these men.
@@pepepotamo5634 but really, they're like super gay in this series, more than in the book (I know for real there nothing sexual between them), but, Sebastian gay himself, that no doubt, and Charles love him, he's once said that with Julian on the ship :v
@@ryujin9038 Well it wasn't at all uncommon for students at Oxford or Cambridge (at a time when women weren't yet allowed) to have a sort of male platonic love or homoromantic experiences.
And the lesson is that even in the heart of luxury & apparent security-some people are not happy. Because it dos'nt satisfy their spirits hunger & they know its all a facade and they can't enjoy it for the moment. Thats why they try to drown their pain in drink & sensual pleasure. Those who do get drawn into the facade & disillusion become 'human ghosts'..spiritually dead.
That was me still a teen watching this for the first time a lifetime ago, every time they were on screen together I squealed inside! They were definitely my first m/m ship, when that concept didn’t even exist yet. It was years later that I got to understand what I was watching. They are in my heart forever.
Very beautiful ... I do, however, think that the new version conveyed all of these sentiments without using words - that music! I would like to see this version in its entirety.
I recently heard Guilgud reading from Brideshead. Astounded to realize I much prefer Jeremy Irons interpretation and sound. Combined with that nostalgic music, pure magic methinks.
You folks who likes this series should read the book "The Secret History". Donna Tartt --the writer of the book-- was greatly inspired by the book which this series was based on. =)
I just went to Castle Howard (Brideshead in the movie), it was surrealistic, that I actually was there, and they also sold the movie there, both 2008 and 1981 one. So I happily bought the series. So excited to watch it.
I watched this when it came out, some of the best scenes (never mind the wonderful Waugh original book) and the music and the these of their love. There is little as erotic as unconsummated love both in 2019 and then.
The Gay question. Sebastian and Charles are more of two lost souls clinging together, then two men in love. Sebastian grew up in a broken home w/ an absent father and domineering mother along with competing with his sister Julia for their mother's attention. So Sebastians relationships with the main females in his life are contentious. Younger sister Cornelia, even tells Charles "Julia never Loved Sebastian like we do". There is also the Catholic Guilt, were enjoying yourself, brings guilt. Sebastian is socially backwards around women, leaving few opportunities for a healthy relationship with one. Charles is trying to fit in, he meets Sebastian and sees the person he wishes he was. He hopes to befriend Sebastian and his circle of friends. But soon realizes the circle of "friends" are really misfits and Sebastian is lost. He uses Sebastian's saddness to his advantage. Charles is the alter ego of the book's author, who also was a social climber. He hated the fact that he never fit in or was accepted, so he drew the wealthy characters with quirks and personality flaws. Charles is written as one of few sane/undamaged characters in the whole book. Charles passes judgment on all the other characters and considers himself above everyone morally and intellectually. In the long run Charles ends up with Julia a wealthly blue-blood wife to lock himself into upper Society. Julia is not a substitute for Sebastian, but the end goal. Charles is in love with money, power and social status. Charles is our eyes to a world that many will never experience. The story and production is romanticized to give depth and to gloss over how much contempt Charles/author have for people. Charles would be a very unpleasant character without it.
Enjoying yourself does not bring on "Catholic guilt." You're thinking of Puritans. When they were hanging Catholics or desecrating altars and holy things, they felt no guilt at all. When they had a glass of wine, or had sex THEN they felt guilt. Julia was NEVER the "end goal." Silly.
@@thomashogan16 You obviously never read about Evelyn Waugh. Brideshead Revisited it is a retelling of his time as a poor house guest of Britain's Upper Crust. Especially the Lygon sisters. He had a thing for aristocrat Lady Mary Lygon, a beautiful blue eyed blonde who Julia is styled after. Waugh divorced his wife to marry a blue eyed Blonde ( he was converted Catholic). But in his book the narrator Shacks up with the aristocrat and a wedding is planned. Julia calls it off because of her Catholic guilt. Waugh even apologetically explained to Coote Lygon, the plain Lygon sister who is Cordelia in the Book that he has written a fantastic book about the months/yrs that he spent as a guest in their country house. He hoped she wouldn't be offended/ hurt that he told all her family's secrets. Sebastian is a Peter Pan character that Charles exploits and moves on when he becomes troublesome.
i just that that if charles care about sebastian that much, he woulnd't let sebantian end up like that, he know that he can help sebastian in his own way, but he never bother to do that, he stand by sebastian in happy days, but in sorrow days, he give up on sebastian and enjoy his own life, he think that he undertand sebastian, yes he do, but he just stand watching...
Lord Byron By using “as well” one does not imply comparison but addition. However, by using “as well” or any other structure while commenting on something, one does, sometimes, attract arrogant psychopaths upon oneself. That’s why you can keep talking to yourself and your kind from now on
3:42 Un segon de realitat dins el paradís de dos jóvens de dinou i vint anys (que és l'edat que representa que tenen els personatges a la novella i a la sèrie, malgrat la tria de dos actors granats) de casa bona i sense responsabilitats (la de mantenir-se, per dir-ne sols una.)
I think too many people get fixated on the "gay thing" .....when it really is not a particularly important part of the story. It's more about love than sexuality. There are so many deep layers of meaning in this beautiful and sad story. It is a pity that some in the LGBT community try to claim it as some kind of epic gay pride thing.
Probably because we don't have an awful lot to identify with in fiction, and Brideshead is such a wonderful story in so many ways that it's nice to imagine that - just maybe - something this beautiful might be a little bit about people like us, because so few things are. (Sorry, I have a lot of feelings. Didn't mean to take them out on you.)
I agree and I disagree. It seems naive to deny that there is a powerfully erotic element to the relationship between Charles and Sebastian, maybe even more in the book than in the TV adaptation. Moreover, it has something to do with 'sexuality', as the presence of Anthony Blanche makes fairly clear. But equally it is a sort of sexuality that seems ill-suited to please today's LGBT community. It is a childlike, innocent - almost infantile - and ultimately deeply deficient devotion. It is as though Charles' passionate (and erotic) love for Sebastian is a stage through which he must progress in order to become a grown-up. And of course both of them go on to the ordeals of grownup life in different ways: Charles to miserable (heterosexual) marriage and adulterous longing for Sebastian's sister, and Sebastian to alcoholism and a sort of tortured martyrdom in Morocco. Their brief infatuation is a charming and childlike illusion that has to be renounced: along, it seems, with every other sort of profane and impure love.
Hmmm.. that was an interesting slant you have. Sebastian and Charles had the 19th and early 20th C bromance/ quasi gay romantic male friendship as described by the character Cara. Regrettably, the world was changing and thankfully gay people are not seen as "profane" or "impure" except by those who are terribly callous and in denial. And more importantly now relationships of that sort are not seen as illusion to be renounced either. In 1920-1930's Britain much was going on . And not everyone renounced. Sebastian could not seem come out which is odd as most aristocrats did not care what people thought. But the device inthe book is religion. But it seems to be more about embarassment of the parents odd match/divide. Sebastian drank instead. He also did have a long torturous relationship with that German in Tunisia and briefly in Europe that of course was a mess in the story ending badly. Charles in his narrative is seeing everything through a wondrous world that was very much part of the British "realm" back in those days. Not everything is really translatable for the current Western world yet alone the LGBTQ community. But there IS a lot of material that is very queer indeed. In fact, many of Waughs vignettes reveal a reverse of the hetero middle class world. So in that sense Brideshead has huge gay interest as all of the characters are so over the top and rebelliously stubborn in all their own ways. In fact anyone who identifies as alternative in any way really will be drawn to this novel. The upper classes and the lower classes of 1920's Britain ( and to some degree today still ) do not have a middle class "fear" of all that is different and unusual. Waugh himself was very middle class but dallied in the ideas of the extremes of the aristocracy and the working class grit characters he wrote about and met in real life. Brideshead has many, many messages in it's pages. It certainly is a really amazing story that captivates so many people.
This reading seems to me like wishful thinking. Brideshead Revisited is, in many ways, a remarkably conservative novel: it reflects Waugh's nostalgic sense that the world of class, deference and faith was passing away and being replaced with something cheap and barbarous (just look at the - to my eyes - astoundingly condescending depiction of Hooper in the Prologue, or the horrifying characterisation of the Stuyvesant Oglanders). But at the same time Waugh wants to depict the world that was passing away as one riddled with sin and impurity: deeply corrupt at every level. For this reason alone I am suspicious of the idea that "anyone who identifies as alternative" will find their worldview affirmed by BR. Waugh did indeed have an "alternative" worldview in mind, but his alternative was conservative and elitist and - most importantly - devoutly Catholic. The final image of the novel is not one of human love of any kind, but of the altar lamp burning in the Brideshead chapel. It is an alternative to secular modernity, not an alternative to heteronormativity, that Brideshead Revisited sketches out. Which is not to say that I think the novel is entirely resistant to 'queering'. Brideshead Revisited strikes me as a very unlikely novel to be seized upon by LGBT readers, but nor is it in any way a homophobic novel. In fact, the almost total absence of the modern hetero/homo distinction is one of the ways that it seems to me to interrogate superficial 'gay' readings of the text. In this sense I agree that the book defies middle class notions of sexual identity, but then these are the very ideas that readers who want to identify Sebastian and Charles as 'gay' are propagating. The relationship between Sebastian and Charles is - I would maintain - one of a series of impure - perhaps it would be better for me to say 'imperfect' - loves that have to be relinquished throughout the course of the novel, but it is not in any way exceptional among these. In fact, the book seems to me to suggest that Charles and Sebastian's passionate friendship is far less culpable than Charles and Julia's adulterous affair, or Lord Marchmain's long-term relationship with Cara (both of which also have to be sacrificed). There is no specific condemnation of homosexual love here, and in fact Waugh is remarkably tender in his depiction of Charles and Sebastian's friendship. (I also think it's worth noting that Sebastian is one of two or three genuinely saintly characters in the book, and I think we are intended to find him far more attractive than the narrator). Moreover, their friendship is - like Charles and Julia's affair - part of Charles' education in human love that will lead eventually towards a truer and better kind of love. Nevertheless, Charles and Sebastian must grow up and endure their respective painful and penitential paths separately. The inexorable operation of divine grace, which is the controlling theme of the plot, drives all the characters - Lord Marchmain, Julia, Cordelia, Sebastian, and even the rather frightful Charles - through suffering and loss towards the only kind of love that ultimately has the power to save. Or so Waugh seems to me to be arguing.
I remember thinking what a load of crap when watching this back in the day and even now that decadent depiction of the idle rich just rubs me up the wrong way. I also deplore the abuse of alcohol so sebastian was a wino like any other.
It was produced for 80s television when an AIDS diagnoses was still a death sentence. Couldn't show the boys shagging without having your network lit on fire.
The greatest piece of television ever to come out of Britain.
Make that the world!
For so many of the cast it was the best work they ever did. ..and the music was a miracle.
My family and other animals too. Gerald Durrell on Corfu. My boyhood TV favourites. Thank you.
@?,?, Aren't straight people allowed to watch this show?
@@DerekWilliamsMusic im Bi so i only watched half the series.
For me Charles & Sebastian Still together, the image of my teen age memories.
They still playing in Brides head. Always Happy, always together.
This series shows the former perfection of our civilization and there will never be such a thing again...
Yes, minus the fact that being in a gay relationship was a criminal offence until 1967.
Anthony Andrews is the only person I can see as Sebastian Flyte. For me, he was perfect casting.
true
Hes lovely
And yet originally, he was to be Charles and Jeremy Irons was set to be Sebastian. I'm glad that didn't happen. I've read the novel several times, and this production was damn near perfect. The movie was an abomination. Goeffrey Burgon's score is magic.
They were all perfect casted!
Yeah, everyone else needs to go home
If I could be anywhere away from these horrible times it would be forever living at Brideshead and an everlasting summer.
my brother loved this series. He just died after a long illness. The music is so wistful, so evocative of him, makes me weep
Im so sorry
@@AlejandraRiveravenusblume0602 Thank you--it is comforting to have a kind word--blessings to you.
It will be very difficult, almost impossible, to have a drama better than this one. The beautiful haunting music
Tells us that there will be no happy ending, as does the wonderful narration by Jeremy Irons. Brideshead Revisited will
Always remain an absolute classic, and rightly so.
Excellent comment Sir.
I suggest you have another look (first look ? ) at Delderfield's " To Serve Them All My Days ". Another brilliant British series!
you should also read Sword of Honour by Waugh, a prince othe English language. Waugh went to his commanding officer during WWII about 1943 and said "I say old chap,... I was working on the classic anglo - Catholic novel when this damned war intervened - do you think that I might have 9 months off to write it ?" And he did. THen he was air dropped into Yugoslavia at the young age of 42 as a liaison man between Tito and the British airforce. Quite a character.
Five years is a long time - you may well no longer be under the Oliver name. Never mind someone else may see the comment. TE. Fidler , a south seas Britisher.
I believe myself very near to heaven, during those languid days at Brideshead. It is thus I like to remember Sebastian, as he was that summer, when we wondered alone together through that enchanted palace.... Ah, the longing, wistfully beautiful prose of Evelyn Waugh.
I will always remember those lines. I remember similar summers. Being young has that effect and it is a sepcial and wonderful time in love before anything happens when colours are so bright and enthusiasm reigns. It will ever be thus.
They don't make Shows like this anymore...a gold standard Classic!
You are absolutely right....there would be so much objection if they ever attempted to make something like this now!!
You're quite right. It was wasted on me at age ten. But I did find Charles and Sebastian's friendship very beautiful, because it was the first time I had ever seen love between two men depicted with such grace.
watching the first few episodes of this series and watching the pairs beautiful chemistry made me smile on so many occasions. i could feel their joy through the screen, it was a really magical experience watching this series for the first time and i wish i could turn back time and do it all over again. these two men truely loved eachother and i think thats what makes the ending even more heartbreaking
sometimes I come back here, hoping it could be like this always
THis is how I like to remember Sebastian also.
Such a beautiful production. It left a mark in 1982 that has never been erased.
Although they had a damn good try with that Bally awful film a few years back x
Anthony Andrews is so goodlooking and Jeremy Irons don´t look so bad either. One of my fave tv- series.
I shall always remember the haunting words of Charles Ryder (Jeremy Irons) when he said “That is how I like to remember Sebastian, as he was during those languid summer days at Brideshead”, speaking as an army captain barracked with his men at Brideshead Castle 20 years later. He tells us that sadly, their friendship and relationship would not last and all that he now has of Brideshead Castle and the family living there is memories over 2 decades or so. A permanent relationship with the family was, sadly, destined never to be.
This is BRILLIANT.
Miss This movies.
Thank you so Much for Sharing this.
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Seeing bits and pieces of Brideshead after oh so many years when it was televised and it interested me only a little - I now know what held my interest. It was sound itself, not sight. The music that played with such elegance, the voices of Jeremy Irons and Anthony Andrews, their beauty and melifluousness. No, it was not the story which only glancingly touched me, not the performances - it was the sound of the music and the sound of their voices.
Мне сейчас 18, и этот сериал верх Эстетического полёта Человечества!
Лучше уже, к сожалению, не будет...
Magnífica!, una serie espléndida y una lectura sublime, es una exquisita descripción de un mundo y una época dorada, de las relaciones de dos seres solitarios que se encuentran en un torbellino de situaciones sociales que les llevan a separarse para siempre. Hermosa serie televisiva.
it ought to be just like this always... ain't that the truth..
incredibly sad to watch after knowing what becomes of our beloved Sebastian. the series almost presents us with a bait and switch: at the beginning, we are shown two young men in love, frolicking and drinking (but not in that destructive, excessive way, not quite yet) wine, their own paradise. and the rest of the series tears it all away, until all that is left is an empty hospital bed in Morocco and a military base. but at least the sanctuary lamp still burns.
how I wish they could just live in this episode forever.. this is how I'd like to remember Sebastian as well, in an eternal summer with the one he loves...
This was without doubt the best thing ever shown on Tv in it’s time. God bless all fellow Alcoholics.
Sublime, mágica, espléndida. Una magnífica obra y excepcionalmente adaptada y actuada. Genial. Gracias mil.
Is it strange if this makes me cry? Especially having finished the book..
No it is not strange. Beauty and innocence always draw tears. That's one of the definitions of heaven.
#riseup, no sweety not at all.
Truly a masterpiece in every way. I tear up easily with it.
Not strange. I am crying right now too.
Pero no hay que dudar qué es una composición de serie cinematográfica y música admirable.😊🎉
loved sebastian, a deep, very beautyful, man, almost like a child, so soulful, person, i think they were in love with eachother, i don´t know, but, i understand charles effection, and fashination for sebastian.
beautiful fascination I agree
They didn't choose their love, they discovered it. Sublime.
Excellent British TV serie. Better than the film. Amazing performances of Jeremy Irons and Anthony Andrews. Definitely they were the only Charles and Sebastian. They were perfect on their roles.
Es una serie espectacular la recuerdo muy bien !
@Constellation05 -- I suppose it's true that music is in the ear of the hearer. I consider the music from Brideshead Revisited to be a perfect match to the series. The sonorous notes, especially in "Sebastian's Summer," reflect the grandeur of the period commonly known as England's last Golden Age. I have both the album and the CD, and whenever I play the music, wherever I am, I'm transported immediately back to the series. Such is the power of music!
"Sonorous" is the perfect word to describe the theme music in this beautifully produced TV series.
Yes and I am a musician (never mind Catholic etc) so it all came together to have such an effect on me when this series came out for the first time.
Very,very love this film many many years.
My grandfather loved Waugh’s writings. He wrote his phd on Waugh.
Just wonderful. Perhaps the best scenes of the best series ever...although at the opposite end of the spectrum I equally adore the first series of Auf Weidersehen Pet.
One blessing they had whilst making this series is that it was clearly a far nicer summer than any we've had in recent times. Up north here, it would have taken eons to shoot these scenes had it been any of the last four so-called summers.
"you know, it ould be like this, just like this, always."
There are quite a few scenes in which I would have loved for them to kiss or show more affection, but the chemistry between them is so beautiful and well done that you don't need the physical side of this romance to understand the deep intimacy shared by these men.
@?,?, You tell us, from your personal experience of being one.
Don't be absurd.
@@pepepotamo5634 but really, they're like super gay in this series, more than in the book (I know for real there nothing sexual between them), but, Sebastian gay himself, that no doubt, and Charles love him, he's once said that with Julian on the ship :v
@@ryujin9038 Well it wasn't at all uncommon for students at Oxford or Cambridge (at a time when women weren't yet allowed) to have a sort of male platonic love or homoromantic experiences.
@@rumblefish9 I knew it, but I mean is Sebastian seem really into guys, not just he want to experience it
And the lesson is that even in the heart of luxury & apparent security-some people are not happy.
Because it dos'nt satisfy their spirits hunger & they know its all a facade and they can't enjoy it for the moment.
Thats why they try to drown their pain in drink & sensual pleasure.
Those who do get drawn into the facade & disillusion become 'human ghosts'..spiritually dead.
Durins Bane vanity of vanities, all is vanity. It says at the ending of the book.
Immensely beautiful.
Really as good as it can possibly get...truth
There are at least 5 moments in just this sequence that have me whispering: "Kiss him.... KISS HIM!!"
That was me still a teen watching this for the first time a lifetime ago, every time they were on screen together I squealed inside! They were definitely my first m/m ship, when that concept didn’t even exist yet. It was years later that I got to understand what I was watching. They are in my heart forever.
Even Waugh would have allowed himself a wry smile......'Alpine strawberries and warm figs'. Isn't that all we want from life?
it would have been a nugatory smile, too!
The television medium used to its full potential for the first and last time.
Very beautiful ... I do, however, think that the new version conveyed all of these sentiments without using words - that music! I would like to see this version in its entirety.
So we love this that and anything!!!! .... And we always love Sebastian!!! I'm tall! I'm small! Perfect beauty!!!!!!!!!
Poor Sebastian. Sebastian contra mundum.
I recently heard Guilgud reading from Brideshead. Astounded to realize I much prefer Jeremy Irons interpretation and sound. Combined with that nostalgic music, pure magic methinks.
You folks who likes this series should read the book "The Secret History". Donna Tartt --the writer of the book-- was greatly inspired by the book which this series was based on. =)
i had no idea the secret history was inspired by brideshead!! its always been on my to-read list but now i rlly SHOULD read it
Castle Howard, a stately home with its temple of the 4 winds in North Yorkshire England
so this is what love looks like
A true dramatisation of the novel.
Most excellent and what photography...
The first ant this are for me the most preferred , as you follow chaps you'll deep into the blue...
Sebastian sadly foretold the end of their relationship. As soon as Charles befriended the rest of his family it was doomed.
Gosh, I've got to find this film and purchase it soon. It's beautifully done. I don't know who HomeBoy is, but I do know Irons.
13 part series
Anthony Andrews is "homeboy".
I just went to Castle Howard (Brideshead in the movie), it was surrealistic, that I actually was there, and they also sold the movie there, both 2008 and 1981 one. So I happily bought the series. So excited to watch it.
Esto recuerda a Barry Lyndon.
I watched this when it came out, some of the best scenes (never mind the wonderful Waugh original book) and the music and the these of their love.
There is little as erotic as unconsummated love both in 2019 and then.
And now indeed two years on - and for ever.
Always alone. Always summer...
Et in Arcadia ego....
Exactly - well said Elina.
I CANT FEEL MY EYES
Sublime
Jeremy Irons forever.
Perfect x
I didn't even know a world like even existed .
Se enamoró de los dos ermanos y con ningúno se quedó muy triste
My, my! I should have known I was gay when I watched this at age ten. It's the gay boy's romance.
The actors perfect. Jeremy Irons as Charles Ryder and Anthony Andrews as Sebastian Flyte.
i just stumble upon this lovely video, i was wondering did i scent a hint of fruits?
The Gay question. Sebastian and Charles are more of two lost souls clinging together, then two men in love. Sebastian grew up in a broken home w/ an absent father and domineering mother along with competing with his sister Julia for their mother's attention. So Sebastians relationships with the main females in his life are contentious. Younger sister Cornelia, even tells Charles "Julia never Loved Sebastian like we do". There is also the Catholic Guilt, were enjoying yourself, brings guilt. Sebastian is socially backwards around women, leaving few opportunities for a healthy relationship with one.
Charles is trying to fit in, he meets Sebastian and sees the person he wishes he was. He hopes to befriend Sebastian and his circle of friends. But soon realizes the circle of "friends" are really misfits and Sebastian is lost. He uses Sebastian's saddness to his advantage. Charles is the alter ego of the book's author, who also was a social climber. He hated the fact that he never fit in or was accepted, so he drew the wealthy characters with quirks and personality flaws. Charles is written as one of few sane/undamaged characters in the whole book. Charles passes judgment on all the other characters and considers himself above everyone morally and intellectually. In the long run Charles ends up with Julia a wealthly blue-blood wife to lock himself into upper Society. Julia is not a substitute for Sebastian, but the end goal. Charles is in love with money, power and social status. Charles is our eyes to a world that many will never experience. The story and production is romanticized to give depth and to gloss over how much contempt Charles/author have for people. Charles would be a very unpleasant character without it.
Enjoying yourself does not bring on "Catholic guilt." You're thinking of Puritans. When they were hanging Catholics or desecrating altars and holy things, they felt no guilt at all. When they had a glass of wine, or had sex THEN they felt guilt. Julia was NEVER the "end goal." Silly.
@@thomashogan16 You obviously never read about Evelyn Waugh. Brideshead Revisited it is a retelling of his time as a poor house guest of Britain's Upper Crust. Especially the Lygon sisters. He had a thing for aristocrat Lady Mary Lygon, a beautiful blue eyed blonde who Julia is styled after. Waugh divorced his wife to marry a blue eyed Blonde ( he was converted Catholic). But in his book the narrator Shacks up with the aristocrat and a wedding is planned. Julia calls it off because of her Catholic guilt.
Waugh even apologetically explained to Coote Lygon, the plain Lygon sister who is Cordelia in the Book that he has written a fantastic book about the months/yrs that he spent as a guest in their country house. He hoped she wouldn't be offended/ hurt that he told all her family's secrets. Sebastian is a Peter Pan character that Charles exploits and moves on when he becomes troublesome.
"Cordelia " surely.
i just that that if charles care about sebastian that much, he woulnd't let sebantian end up like that, he know that he can help sebastian in his own way, but he never bother to do that, he stand by sebastian in happy days, but in sorrow days, he give up on sebastian and enjoy his own life, he think that he undertand sebastian, yes he do, but he just stand watching...
Jeremy Irons is so fine in this. 😍
It's a series, I thought it was a film. Anyway, I've got to get this.
It is a film as well, but the series is far better
Lord Byron I didn’t. Have a nice day :)
Lord Byron By using “as well” one does not imply comparison but addition. However, by using “as well” or any other structure while commenting on something, one does, sometimes, attract arrogant psychopaths upon oneself. That’s why you can keep talking to yourself and your kind from now on
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3:42 Un segon de realitat dins el paradís de dos jóvens de dinou i vint anys (que és l'edat que representa que tenen els personatges a la novella i a la sèrie, malgrat la tria de dos actors granats) de casa bona i sense responsabilitats (la de mantenir-se, per dir-ne sols una.)
Whoops a Daisy : did I make a few grammar mistakes ? Oh Dear dear !!! What a to do Jena Austen's another one for Upper Middleys.
I think too many people get fixated on the "gay thing" .....when it really is not a particularly important part of the story. It's more about love than sexuality.
There are so many deep layers of meaning in this beautiful and sad story. It is a pity that some in the LGBT community try to claim it as some kind of epic gay pride thing.
Probably because we don't have an awful lot to identify with in fiction, and Brideshead is such a wonderful story in so many ways that it's nice to imagine that - just maybe - something this beautiful might be a little bit about people like us, because so few things are.
(Sorry, I have a lot of feelings. Didn't mean to take them out on you.)
I agree and I disagree. It seems naive to deny that there is a powerfully erotic element to the relationship between Charles and Sebastian, maybe even more in the book than in the TV adaptation. Moreover, it has something to do with 'sexuality', as the presence of Anthony Blanche makes fairly clear.
But equally it is a sort of sexuality that seems ill-suited to please today's LGBT community. It is a childlike, innocent - almost infantile - and ultimately deeply deficient devotion. It is as though Charles' passionate (and erotic) love for Sebastian is a stage through which he must progress in order to become a grown-up. And of course both of them go on to the ordeals of grownup life in different ways: Charles to miserable (heterosexual) marriage and adulterous longing for Sebastian's sister, and Sebastian to alcoholism and a sort of tortured martyrdom in Morocco. Their brief infatuation is a charming and childlike illusion that has to be renounced: along, it seems, with every other sort of profane and impure love.
Brilliantly summarized demonliberal. I agree with everything you've written.
Hmmm.. that was an interesting slant you have. Sebastian and Charles had the 19th and early 20th C bromance/ quasi gay romantic male friendship as described by the character Cara. Regrettably, the world was changing and thankfully gay people are not seen as "profane" or "impure" except by those who are terribly callous and in denial. And more importantly now relationships of that sort are not seen as illusion to be renounced either. In 1920-1930's Britain much was going on . And not everyone renounced. Sebastian could not seem come out which is odd as most aristocrats did not care what people thought. But the device inthe book is religion. But it seems to be more about embarassment of the parents odd match/divide. Sebastian drank instead. He also did have a long torturous relationship with that German in Tunisia and briefly in Europe that of course was a mess in the story ending badly. Charles in his narrative is seeing everything through a wondrous world that was very much part of the British "realm" back in those days. Not everything is really translatable for the current Western world yet alone the LGBTQ community. But there IS a lot of material that is very queer indeed. In fact, many of Waughs vignettes reveal a reverse of the hetero middle class world. So in that sense Brideshead has huge gay interest as all of the characters are so over the top and rebelliously stubborn in all their own ways. In fact anyone who identifies as alternative in any way really will be drawn to this novel. The upper classes and the lower classes of 1920's Britain ( and to some degree today still ) do not have a middle class "fear" of all that is different and unusual. Waugh himself was very middle class but dallied in the ideas of the extremes of the aristocracy and the working class grit characters he wrote about and met in real life. Brideshead has many, many messages in it's pages. It certainly is a really amazing story that captivates so many people.
This reading seems to me like wishful thinking. Brideshead Revisited is, in many ways, a remarkably conservative novel: it reflects Waugh's nostalgic sense that the world of class, deference and faith was passing away and being replaced with something cheap and barbarous (just look at the - to my eyes - astoundingly condescending depiction of Hooper in the Prologue, or the horrifying characterisation of the Stuyvesant Oglanders). But at the same time Waugh wants to depict the world that was passing away as one riddled with sin and impurity: deeply corrupt at every level. For this reason alone I am suspicious of the idea that "anyone who identifies as alternative" will find their worldview affirmed by BR. Waugh did indeed have an "alternative" worldview in mind, but his alternative was conservative and elitist and - most importantly - devoutly Catholic. The final image of the novel is not one of human love of any kind, but of the altar lamp burning in the Brideshead chapel. It is an alternative to secular modernity, not an alternative to heteronormativity, that Brideshead Revisited sketches out.
Which is not to say that I think the novel is entirely resistant to 'queering'. Brideshead Revisited strikes me as a very unlikely novel to be seized upon by LGBT readers, but nor is it in any way a homophobic novel. In fact, the almost total absence of the modern hetero/homo distinction is one of the ways that it seems to me to interrogate superficial 'gay' readings of the text. In this sense I agree that the book defies middle class notions of sexual identity, but then these are the very ideas that readers who want to identify Sebastian and Charles as 'gay' are propagating.
The relationship between Sebastian and Charles is - I would maintain - one of a series of impure - perhaps it would be better for me to say 'imperfect' - loves that have to be relinquished throughout the course of the novel, but it is not in any way exceptional among these. In fact, the book seems to me to suggest that Charles and Sebastian's passionate friendship is far less culpable than Charles and Julia's adulterous affair, or Lord Marchmain's long-term relationship with Cara (both of which also have to be sacrificed). There is no specific condemnation of homosexual love here, and in fact Waugh is remarkably tender in his depiction of Charles and Sebastian's friendship. (I also think it's worth noting that Sebastian is one of two or three genuinely saintly characters in the book, and I think we are intended to find him far more attractive than the narrator). Moreover, their friendship is - like Charles and Julia's affair - part of Charles' education in human love that will lead eventually towards a truer and better kind of love. Nevertheless, Charles and Sebastian must grow up and endure their respective painful and penitential paths separately. The inexorable operation of divine grace, which is the controlling theme of the plot, drives all the characters - Lord Marchmain, Julia, Cordelia, Sebastian, and even the rather frightful Charles - through suffering and loss towards the only kind of love that ultimately has the power to save. Or so Waugh seems to me to be arguing.
I remember thinking what a load of crap when watching this back in the day and even now that decadent depiction of the idle rich just rubs me up the wrong way. I also deplore the abuse of alcohol so sebastian was a wino like any other.
What jolly japes the gay upper class boys had
I love watching movies of wealthy homosexuals.
As we should
Sebastian was intoxicated,he chooses to foolish out St.Benedict couldn't qualify him.
Utterly decadent xxx
Evelyn Waugh was mad about aristocracy, and here he deifies them, and golden youth. A rather lower middle class obcession I'm afraid.
I think they might be homosexual
this sweet englishness has soured to be ravaged by stronger stems and flowers. how boring.
This sucks! Its totally gay yet there is absolutely no shagging. Completely unreal
I do not think it would get past the censors, I would not want to see it anyways. Some things are better not shown.
It was produced for 80s television when an AIDS diagnoses was still a death sentence. Couldn't show the boys shagging without having your network lit on fire.
J can remember a similar situation up at avalon.nsw, Australia.. alcohol, private catamaran,car, money. Year nine..1983