I was almost drawn in and considered joining core group. The more live streams that popped into my feed that I watched, I was turned off by her attitude while ministering. It was an arrogance and assuming the worst in the audience. For example, if people would drop off the live, she would say something like "oh see the devils are getting mad right now...etc" I know for myself, I often drop off livestreams because I have a FAMILY who needs my attention hello somebody! And that doesn't mean I am less saved or less spiritual or anyone else for that matter. when I would hear her accuse others like that it just turned me off. this was a small example. Then I started learning about how dangerous the teaching is through lovely sisters like Dawn Hill and the Kozars.
I remember her saying that people who were questioning her or had concerns about her teachings are deceived by the devil. There's one person I know who spoke out against her, realized she didn't know if what she was saying was true so she apologized to Jenny, which Jenny said she accepted her apology and then when my friend needed something Jenny bought it for her. Then on one of Jenny's livestreams she said she bought the item for my friend because the Bible tells us to bless our enemies.
@@albrow12 I think what you are saying is we might have her pegged wrong? Not sure what you meant but i that k you for your input. She is still our sister in Christ but I don’t have to agree with her teaching/interpretation. I think the discussions is helpful on all points so thanks !
@@michellewarren5842 no one is speaking against her as a sister in Christ. No one. What is being said is she is deceived hundreds of people and it needs to be exposed.
I have watched both videos with this sweet sister's testimony. Im currently leaving the hyper charismatic church and i am experiencing a lot of the same things. I'm working through learning how to pray and relate to God, and that I don't need deliverance every day when things don't go well. I am very lonely as all my friends are hyper charismatics and I can't speak to them about these things or they will say i have a demon and we need to bind and renounce the spirit of so and so... It's absolutely exhausting!!! I will be visiting a local church next sunday, Lord willing, where the Bible is read and taught verse by verse and book by book. I personally never had any interactions with Jenny, I think i listened to her twice before. I did however get sucked into this deliverance movement and I spent the last 7 years "casting out demons" instead of reading my Bible. I'm very confused about a lot of things and I can't trust many people right now. Every time i hear a sincere believer say "the holy Spirit led me" and i know it's just a humble and sincere beliver, but I feel uncomfortable. I want to learn about the true Holy Spirit and not to be afraid of hearing a reference to Him. In the hyper charismatic movement the name of the Holy Spirit is so overused for literally everything that once you come out of that you can become very sensitive to hearing someone referring to the Holy Spirit leading. That's the worst thing that movement did for my faith, I'm scared to go against the Holy Spirit or to not accept Him because I'm afraid that may or may not be the Spirit. Thank you both for sharing this video. Listening to that sister helped bring some comfort to my current situation. I am so thankful to God for His mercy and grace 🙏🏻
This video was what caused me to finally break away from all the NAR teachings. This movement caught me at a very young age when I was in high school, and just now, as a college student, I am finally feeling like I'm back to the simplicity and understanding of the Gospel. When she said "it was exhausting".. yeah it was! I pray for anyone in this movement. Thanks for the amazing video!
Thank you for this excellent conversation Dawn. People are very deceived by these superstars in deliverance ministries. It's so exhausting even listening to people like Jenny Weaver. Blessings to you and your family. ❤
Bless you Dawn for taking up this fight...bless you. Btw...it's important to call these 'movements' what they are... It's a Cult. Oh...& Ryan Lestrange is one of the 'lead wolves'... As well, it would seem pertinent to remember what a 'ravenous wolf' is & what they do... You can't play nice w/ a famished predator. It's time we (all of us)...stop pacifying this doctrine of demons
The group you were discussing sounded like a cult with all the hallmarks of cults. Eg. A charismatic leader who cannot be questioned, not being allowed to ask questions about the group's beliefs and practices, having nearly all of your time taken up with the group's activities thereby becoming exhausted (stops people from having the time or energy to question what is happening within the group), and being shunned by group members when leaving the group as well as other alarming practices.
Jenny Weaver mentioned in an interview with Isaiah Saldivar that she is 'under Ryan Lestrange's "covering"' so that is very much the definition of a cult.
I am so thankful you are getting this out. I’m shaking in my boots. I really am I have severe damage from this group. I feel so traumatized it’s nasty. I just want Jesus
I am so sorry to hear this. There is hope in the Lord Jesus Christ. I created a resource page for those coming out of this movement. Here is the link below for you. It is free, and you can check it out anytime, no pressure. Please let me know if I can be of help. www.lovesickscribe.com/resources
God bless both of you for sharing. I almost joined it too and decided not to after praying and thinking about how Jesus sent the disciples out with nothing and he wouldn’t want me to pay to get anything from God. So I chose to quit following her and other deliverance ministers on social media. Thank God and I pray in Jesus Christ name more people see the truth!! Amen 🙏🏻
I 100% agree. This whole spiritual warfare practices are exhausting. When I was in this movement, I literally lived in fear that a demon would attach itself to me and wreak havoc in my life. What a wonderful blessed assurance came to me when I realized that Jesus had pad it all, He had defeated the devil and all I needed to do was rest in His finished work.
The Bible does talk alot about warfare but we need not fear. Oftentimes, people get way out of balance. It's important to understand what warfare is & how to defeat it. Even Jesus said so & gives us authority in His name.
No no the devil won’t quit just cause Jesus died on the cross we will go through Spiritual warfare at times. Please don’t be deceived thinking we can just rest no no we have to fight …Read Ephesians 6:10- that speaks on Spiritual warfare. yes we will have seasons of rest but we must constantly pray & intercede. The bible speaks on finishing the race of faith not just sit around. 2 Tim 4:6-8
Thank you for this.. something about Jenny has always upset my spirit. I asked God to show me the truth and this podcast came up in my feed.. Thank you both for doing this podcast and biblically discussing everything..
I always thought there was something wrong with me because I didn’t experience Him like others were…then also thought He just didn’t love me as much 😢 He’s brought me out of that thinking…thank you for this video
Wow, she described my old church and how the narrative about other churches "being dead" will cause spiritual pride. I began to look down on (per say) other churches that weren't doing deliverance and falling out in the Spirit. God opened my eyes so much coming out of a deliverance ministry and I'm so grateful for it. It did wreck me and caused me to reevaluate everything I've been taught for years. I feel as though I'm Re-learning who God is and it's been beautiful. So many are being trapped and placed in bonding by these ministries. So sad. Thank you so much for sharing your story and thank you Dawn for revealing and speaking truth. ❤
Someone reached out to me and wanted me to cover Jenny Weaver. Looks like you did. I will share this and save myself the heart ache and I am sure surge in my pressure!! Thanks Dawn for all you do!
This was a wonderful testimony Dawn what a precious Sister you are Dawn to take Patricia under your care and help her through this hard time in her life the love of Christ is real. Patricia you ard so brave and precious im so glad you came out of this movement praise God.The convicting power of the Holy Ghost is real and painful but,so necessary for us to grow and become what God has called us to be which is more Christ like and to grow in The grace and knowledge of Him ❤❤❤ I know when I watched Daniel Adams and jenny Weaver and other demon slayers I was a nervous wreck i thought everyone had a devil even my spouse it was craziness i had no peace or joy it truly is not of The Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus said, His yoke is easy and His burdens are light ( salvation) is wonderful resting in the finished work of Christ is peace,joy,love, Hope God bless you both in Jesus name Amen ❤❤❤
I'm listening to this again & to the part where your guest is explaining how she battled demonic thoughts and dreams continually. Perhaps the constant harping on the need to be fighting demons creates this perpetual cycle. When you're taught that demons are lurking everywhere & you need be always battling them the more your need for Jenny's teachings, courses and books on how to combat them !
Listened to this episode as I was preparing for work. I enjoyed it thoroughly. I saw Jenny Weaver on either a Destiny Image or CBN video awhile ago. She reminds me of another false female prophet in my home country who specializes in dream interpretation and anointing any and everything with olive oil. A female friend of my family attended this false prophetess' church on a Sunday morning and literally saw two Shadowy figures on her pulpit as she preached clowning around and making spot (or sport?) of her. Bare in mind that my friend attends a solid Bible believing church that is non-charismatic. God opened her eyes in order to show her the spirit behind the prophetess' ministry.
Dawn thank you for sharing your testimony and helping so many people. Also to this young woman I want to encourage you to keep being patient with all who push you away or block you because of their delusional beliefs. It's not just you. You are a sweet gentle soul. I've agreed with everything you said and want to say be faithful to the Word of God and let your light shine.
When I saw her membership Core group last year I knew deep down this is not the right path to Go.. The gospel of Jesus Christ is Free, deliverance and praying is Free..
Maybe “now” but that wasn’t the case when I was fully in this group. We emphasized other books. Never had an actual bible study. Holding the Bible up and talking the majority of the time about other things is not a bible study.
@@aprilmichalak901these aren’t lies, Dawn has backed up everything in the video with scripture and it matches perfectly, thank you Lord Jesus for opening my eyes to the truth and I pray He will help you too, we love you and are praying for you ❤
I always had a certain level of discomfort about Jenny. Wasn't specifically sure why, because I never followed her or listened to much of anything she had to say. I just knew she was on CBN and talked a lot about deliverance and "The Prophetic". That alone made me very skeptical. It's a shame that so may follow her, and those like her. What happened to discernment in the church? And since when do we go into our prayer closet, and put a camera on us? Very good commentary sister.
Sounds a lot like some of the experiences our family had when we were members of Rodney howard-brownes Church. There was a big emphasis on experiences, speaking in tongues and even "singing and singing songs with angels" in tongues. There was a big emphasis on winning souls but never spreading the gospel. They had their soul winners track, have another person repeat the words that's it, they were marked down as being saved. So many disturbing things took place there, looking back I know and understand that now. I was one who was left wondering what was wrong with me too, I didn't experience like other people did. I even walked away from church for a while.....I thank God for the work of the Holy Spirit in my life. I thank God for people like this lady who share their story. It's very disturbing to see how many are trapped in the bondage of these groups
Just because other’s experience & you didn’t doesn’t mean you or them are in error. We all have different experiences with Christ. My pastor is under him and Dr Rodney is a man Of God so I have to disagree. It may seem like a lot & out of the norm but he does operate differently than other churches because he focuses a lot on the Supernatural so we don’t naturally understand. Speaking in tongues is in the Word of God Romans 8:26-27
@@rere8635 respectfully Romans 8:26-27 isn't sharing about speaking in tongues, if you'll notice towards the end of verse 26 it reads as follows: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. It clearly shows the Spirit itself makes intercession praying on our part, He pray words that cannot be uttered. To utter means a manner of speaking, emission from the mouth or to vocalize. It's shared in that passage that the Spirit prays in a way that CANNOT be uttered. It doesn't say He prays and vocalizes through us. According to those who speak in tongues one must utter or vocalize sounds thus speaking in tongues. As for Brownes experiences and his teachings for that matter, if they do not line up with Scripture after being tested by scripture, they, he ought to be marked and avoided. Either scripture is sufficient or it isn't
@@PennyLinn1980 No ma’am.. I suggest you go to someone for wisdom on that scripture like an elder & etc because folks tend to misinterpret this topic about tongues …Matter of fact prayer on this. That scripture is talking about speaking in tongues…Tongues is spiritual not for the natural mind your trying to interpret naturally its not natural. It brings closer intimacy with God. You actually run out of prayers coming from the natural mind thats what this scripture indicates. Its absolutely true because sometimes we run out of what to pray naturally but when I pray in spirit God even interprets it for me cause its coming from my spirit not my mind . I would recommend praying for wisdom on this matter luv…Far as the Brownes this is all about your feelings & emotions doesn’t mean they are not lined up …God bless🤍
@@rere8635 Thank you for you kind response. Prayer is amazing and wisdom is welcome. I pray the Holy Spirit helps all who seek truth in the scriptures.
My cousin and her family are in deep with the Core Group. Has anyone looked Jenny up? There is nothing on her or her husband, only anything that has to do with The Core Group. I even looked up her so-called "police record", where she posted her mugshots from to her website...and it does not exist. Her mugshots say she was arrested in Hillsborough County (where I live) but her name, dates and reason for arrests are all edited out. Suspicious! I really do not think those are even their real names. They also convince you to alienate yourself from your family. Scammers and definitely a cult. Don't Fall For It!
I don’t think it’s her real name either! I have sensed that from the beginning as well. Try her brothers name Dorsey. That was a drastic measure as well. Michael Dorsey.
Another lie saying core group doesn’t read bibles or study it in class It’s a must to have your Bible ready and to go by the word And no one goes around saying everything’s a demon No
I feel like some of these online celebrity preachers start out with really pure intentions. They’re radically transformed and want the WORLD to know this God that changed them. But somewhere along the way, the fame and notoriety goes to their head. They realize this can be used to make them rich. And they become tainted. I noticed this one online “prophet” I was following started to become more of a personality than a mouthpiece for God. I noticed that she was good at marketing and good at getting people to feel like they NEEDED to come back everyday to hear from her. They NEEDED to spend hours of their day with her in order to grow. They NEEDED to participate in everything she was doing to not miss God. They NEEDED… her. Myself included. Which I repented for. And I noticed that she enjoyed the people’s NEED for her just a little too much. I started praying that she would not be overtaken by pride. The more I watched, the more it seemed to be the case. It’s just so disheartening. 😢😔
Well I see the incredible fruit from her ministry and it’s evident that she is on fire 🔥 for Jesus!! Her testimony is evidence of the saving power and fire of the Holy Spirit!! We need to be baptized in the Holy Spirit too. It’s not just a one and done!
This sister is absolutely precious!!! I completely love and understand her heart for the Lord...I also love to be face down in reverence and in love with the Lord 🥰🙏💞. Bless you both
Wow! Such truth. And when the Holy Spirit resides in you, your heart leaps when it hears truth. ❤ oh and love your hair Dawn😊. PS. I think these groups work so well and grow because they appeal to the flesh.
Thank you for sharing this. I have been back and forth on joining this but it just repeatedly was not sitting well with me. God had me find this to solidify my discernment. Thank you for putting your experience based on scripture.
I just started following you after finding you through Doreen Virtue. Thank you for covering this! Just saw that JW made her core group sign NDAs. Terrible! Shortly after finding Isaiah Saldivar, I found Jenny Weaver. Something about Jenny Weaver's spirit really scared me and I couldn't figure out why. I hope more people find your video! Thanks again for your interviews and great coverage. God bless
I know from my own personal experience Just fasting and praying and at the feet of The LORD sometimes you have to wait in The LORD. HE says enter into HIS presence with thanksgiving and enter into HIS courts with praise. Sometimes we don’t want to tap in and feel HIS presence because to our flesh it’s to much. We want quick and easy but gives hours to everything else.
Im so glad I came to this podcast, well HE probably sent me here, I was considering Jenny’s core group but several things were holding me back and your discussion confirmed my doubts and questions….Thank you
Wow, when she said demonic dream and not having them sense leaving the group, wow!! I experienced this mostly with my "christian" counselor, & some with friends and family that are involved in the same things. I went to my hubs and pastor and have to say I feel soooo much better. And have been doing a deep dive learning how this happened and why. Yes Jim Osman's Truth or Territory book is a big part to all that help.. thank you Dawn for your podcasts!!! ❤ & Prayers for you sisters!!
It's so beautiful to see people running from these pagans!!!May the Lord bless your ministry Dawn and may you always speak the truth and always stay biblical!!Keep fighting the good fight of faith my sister!!!!
I feel for this lady. I left the core group after I heard the Lord tell me to stop. I was butted out of the inner group at church for voicing my concerns … when I was a part of the core group I never experienced as much anxiety before.
Amazing! To me, she helped me because she was one of the channels that helped me out of the new age. But after these first days I never went back to her channel, never felt it. Even when I saw the videos in my feed, I didn't feel it. So, I guess, she has her place somewhere there. Praise the lord for shining the light forth!
I was in the group a month felt God lead me out. I was in a very biblical Bible study read the Bible so in the prayer alone there was red flags scripture taken out of context. Others left I had them as friends even though I had already paid for my 2nd month got kicked out of everything simply for being associated with the women who left the group. I'm thankful I didn't get caught up in it.
Thanks Dawn another great podcast, starting to really enjoy your talks ,you are a true believer with the experience to call out the false teachers. Thanks from the uk 🇬🇧👍🙏🙏🙏
I feel duped, my whole twenties I spent in a Pentecostal church, I even had an older lady tell me if I didn’t speak in tongues then there’s a problem with my faith, I left the church and after 10 years (being church less and feeling like I was a Christian but was a false convert, and there was no fruit and I was still living fully in the world) I got truly saved and born again just this last Nov 2023 and was tempted back towards these teachings, but kept feeling very off, but I’m like it’s just me….. right? Thank you because since I’ve found your’s and Doreen’s vids I now know the deceit that I was falling for and it feels very freeing hearing the truth. I’ve been trying so hard to be “good” scared I won’t make it to Heaven and I now know that it’s only because of Jesus that I have the right to go to Heaven and that I don’t deserve
It’s great to speak in tongues but it doesn’t stop you from going to Heaven nor does it mean your not saved. It does brings closer intimacy with God plus builds up your spirit & you should have faith to receive but not a salvation issue if you don’t. Romans 8:26-27
This has nothing to do with Jenny Weaver as much as it does with how you view God’s presence. I think we also need to evaluate ourselves as to what’s blocking you from feeling God’s presence. That’s not a “you” problem but the lies of the enemy. You have to be spiritually strong and mature and make sure you are under Holy Ghost filled spiritual leaders that can help you through that. Don’t blame Jenny and just to help you don’t blame yourself. Tell the enemy he is a liar
Jenny also teaches we can 'activate the Gifts of the Holy Spirit' as in pick and choose which Gift and be in charge of it. This is the heart of witchcraft. She believes that she is under Ryan Lestrange's 'spiritual covering' as well, so he seems to be at the heart of this cult.
I agree with you, numbers mean nothing to God if the multitude of people are not right with Him, many people can be in a church but it doesn't mean good fruit is being beared.
I just found out from this video that that’s what she does!! Wow had I known I wouldn’t have fallen for any of this to begin with honestly, I was sucked in by the Mike guy from New York, and vlad from the hungry gen, and Isaiah saldavar, I kind steered away from Jenny though just always felt weird about her…but thank you Jesus for opening my eyes
You two should read the word and pray together. She probably mistakingly thinks your trying to control her. Try and be patient. We ALL err. Pray and be patient.
Literally. I agree with some things but other things I don't agree with. She does bring her Bible to classes and reads from the Bible. She says the core belongs to the Lord. This video is NOT 100% accurate
This is the problem with the church today, coming against each instead of fighting the devil. These ladies are not telling the truth at all. She needs to repent & ask God to forgive her for lieing. Jenny Weaver loves God. The Bible says you will know them by the fruit they display.
I would kindly ask you to please provide the specific statements where we are lying. You're welcome to disagree. However, if you are going to accuse someone of lying, then provide specifics.
@@dawnhill1613 I have been a part of the Core for about a year and a half & Jenny always encouraged students to meet up to have coffee or lunch. She always would say that if you are needing to have a demon cast out of you all of the time clearly you are not growing in Christ. She also encourages local church participation & said on many occasions that you should tithe at your church. She also has said if your church gets mad at you for visiting another church or ministry you are probably dealing with controlling people. The dues were to be able to give something to the admins that assist her. $20 is a very small amount to pay for online teaching of any kind.
@LeadingNationstoTheRock the teaching that Christians have indwelling demons is unfounded in Scripture. I ask again, where are we lying? I have heard Jenny say that her doctrine can not be contested, and she is also not an apostle. Every person's doctrine and teaching or claimed teaching is to be tested, including hers. Furthermore, there are no modern apostles today. She claims revelation from the Holy Spirit. On what authority? I urge you to consider what you are sitting under.
@@dawnhill1613 What you just said is also not true, Jenny is accountable to a leader & she has been ordained as an Apostle. It’s clear that we don’t agree & that’s ok. Be Blessed.
@LeadingNationstoTheRock it is true. She said those things or stated them, either in videos or on her website. I know the leader who affirmed her. I was affiliated with him for 18 years. Please go back to Scripture and consider what you are listening to and what is being taught. This is said out of concern for you.
It was the reverse in our house. My husband was caught up in the "demon slayers" garbage. I'm SO thankful i did NOT submit to him and come under those teachings. He was in it for about 6-7 months and it almost broke us.
The teachings about being a Debra and Esther etc is just religious feminism. We can't be the humble housewife and mother caring for the family. We have to exhaust ourselves and neglect the family for this grand plan we're told we're to accomplish. Feed the ego and be the superhero in our own story. Just like with the snobbery against the "dead churches," this forms a snobbery against other women who don't live their lives for their egocentric purpose.
The Bible says you shall know them by the fruit of the spirit, not by how many people follow them. In the end days we will see a great apostasy. People will be looking for pastors to tell them things they want to hear
I use to listen to her...her testimony was drawing...but praise God my Ps was teaching us one day about Ps churches that focus on these deliverance teachings etc....and not teaching scripture.Last days a lot of false teachers and churches will appear.
I’m saddened to hear the inaccuracy she is describing here. I’ve been in the core group for about 2 months now and NONE the lessons, fasts, or daily confessions (haven’t heard a single word about this) are mandatory. All teachings are archived for members to go back and listen to as time allows. If your ego was inflated from being in the core group then you were there for the wrong reasons to begin with. Jenny weaver has said multiple times if you are waking up and wanting her teachings before God then to leave now bc you’re in idol worship. It sounds like you did the right thing by leaving. Stay close to the Lord; he will always meet you where you are. 💓
She absolutely did the right thing by leaving, and I would encourage anyone else to do the same. Please get back to the Word rightly divided, and be willing to judge yourself. Grace and peace.
I agree with you , the inaccuracy is scary. Specifically, the part that you can't meet up with your sisters without her approval, wow wow wow , we meet up all the time without her approval. And everything in the group isn't set on stone, and by that said, we never have to do everything. You will do it at your own pace, and also we read from the Bible that we are supposed to have our bibles out and ready. This is a very deceitful video. Also, she doesn't speak FOR God , that's a little too much . Sad.
Start going to other peoples church events, meeting up with them for those specific things (outside of core) and please tell me she will be fine with that. Do not call me inaccurate when I have proof of these allegations towards me and the group of women I was with. We were NOT allowed to go to other peoples churches (hence that’s meeting outside of core). You cannot come on here and discount something you know nothing about. You can’t come on here an accuse when you aren’t the one who went through something like this. Shalom 💗
@patriciawilliams1628 are you willing to share your proof? You know, if you are really trying to unmask the "Core Cult". sharing your proof would be actually more efficient. Because by what you are saying, it doesn't ailing with what I'm experiencing myself ,so it sounds inaccurate and lies.
When you said if your husband is telling you something is off and you need to get out of this group she was dead on. It lead to destroying a marriage and family here. 2 years in the movement = divorce.
My husband told me when I left that he didn't feel right about her. I asked him what it was, and he said he didn't know but he didn't want to tell me since he didn't know what it was. I told him, next time you have a feeling about someone I'm listening to TELL ME. Because his feeling was correct. He was raised in the church and in the Word. So he knew she wasn't teaching the Word correctly. He just couldn't put a finger on it.
I'm so sorry. The "deliverance ministries" almost did the same for us. I'm thankful to have gotten my husband away from it as we wouldn't have lasted much longer, and he was only in it about 6 months.
Update to my comment: now my husband is a huge follower of Mark Driscoll. 🤦🏻♀️And still went and saw the new "demon slayer" movie because Mark is in it.
I was going to join her movement and then something inside told me it’s off and ask God for real godly believers reading Bible. The fact she charges for subscription it’s already off, because Bible say freely receive freely give. Then I saw many videos and comments of former girls, who were attending like this video and they speak about her character and attitude. Fruits of the Holy Spirit are love, kindness, compassion , self control. I saw online she can be off with her so called love of christ. Like a split persona acting online and offline opposite. You only belong, when paying for the class, if not we don’t welcome you. That’s ungodly. Jesus was a friend and never worried about the titles, such being called rabbai or pastor. He came as a friend and healed and delivered and preached for free.
I been in core group for two years On Mondays and Tuesdays we have class There is a day for core men’s and a day for core marriages Saturday core kids have a zoom class and teens have a day also Not ever was there a 6/7 day class It’s all studied from the Bible all glory to the lord no one is big headed it’s all in the name of Jesus and nothing the weavers do shows selfish prosperity ministry They moved on assignment from the lord doing deliverances now is a season of baptisms $20 covers your whole family or just your self Retreats where we worship the lord, pray, Bible study and fellowships were all free if not super cheap if ever was a fee. We have core intersession classes that’s also free we can have local meetups all we want They are not control freaks doing this for fame and fortune the false lies and spirit of witchcraft needs to end now in the name of Jesus
I would encourage you not to come on here and slander people by saying witchcraft is being done. Pointing back to God's Word in the proper context is what we are to do. The very fact that you are perpetuating her teaching of such things and assigning spirits to those who would dare say anything contrary is troubling. Go back to the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Thank you for sharing your story.. I was not deep into core groups , but I was uneasy about things and questioned things.. especially about these hype movements it makes one feel just like you described how it made you feel.
i was in the inside. The lord gave me a word to rebuke the lensa app that was let into the core group October last year or something then the lord had me release in the core group and It was not towards Jenny it eas everyone following the movement if this lensa app that Jenny was side blinded when she allowed this app in. God burdened my heart so much. I release a a video and Jenny deleted it off the core group. The righteous indignation I felt by the lord wow. Too much to say here. But the lord had me rebuke jenny in December it was harsh. The idolatry and the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and pride of life is the only fruits yielding in the core. I pray she repents for operating in JEZEBEL and come out of her and the purity she first had for God.
The things this woman is sharing is the same thoughts I had for a looong time because I wasn’t feeling Him (God) like these Charismatic people. The Lord Jesus led me to stop listening to people like Jenny Weaver back in 2019 and I still struggled until 2021 with that.
I felt like why should I pay $20 a month to join the group. Why can’t it be free? But then we pay for everything else and give our money to everything else. 🤷🏽♀️
If I may offer this for consideration. You shouldn't have to pay for Biblical discipleship. The Core is a sad example of taking advantage of people for shameful gain and teaching things that should not be taught. 12,500 women are members. That's $250,000 a month, 3 million dollars a year toward a nonprofit organization, which is her ministry. The teachings are not based on solid Biblical teaching, and Jenny is not an apostle. There are other concerns, including deliverance teaching, but I hope what I shared helps. God bless!
@@dawnhill1613she's not an Apostle? Really? She doesn't like people addressing her as only "Jenny". I feel uncomfortable calling her "Mama". I think I need to leave it before my first month is even up. The CDN$ conversion is shocking.$30 when converted. I don't have time for the "lives" either.
Everything the guest is saying how all this experience made her feel is exactly what I have been going through myself with Katherine Krick and all that this Jenny Weaver seems to focus and teach is exactly the same with Katherine Krick in her services, her weekly Q&A’s, weekly Zoom miracles which I have been doing for months and received deliverance when she came to DC but my life my son’s Autism all just has gotten worse than ever I desperate for help
Watch Derek Prince he was great on deliverance his wisdom will help he’s deceased now but teachings are still powerful 🙏🏾 th-cam.com/video/nqAGdE6l_Js/w-d-xo.htmlsi=2WwkYHMK4slqn881
@dawnhill1613 You seem very intelligent and talented. Just think what we could do to push forward the Kingdom of God if we stopped heresy hunting and serving the enemy, causing division among the body. Let us be in one spirit! As apostle Paul said, “ but to me, it is a very small thing that I should be examined by you, or by any human court, in fact, I do not even examine myself. I am conscious of nothing against myself, yet I am not by this acquitted, but the one who examines me is the Lord. Therefore do not go on passing judgment before the time, but wait until the Lord comes, he will both bring the light to things hidden in the darkness, and disclose the motive of men’s hearts. 1 Corinthians 4:3-5
Unity is not partnering or agreeing with error. This also is not heresy hunting. If I may ask, do you say these same things to such people as Jenny who call those of us who disagree full of demons and Pharisees? Also, we are to judge with righteous judgment, John 7:24. I appreciate your comment. Have a blessed day!
Nothing wrong with waiving the flags….Remember Jehovah Nissi-the LORD is our banner (or flag), our victory. Waiving the flag is celebrating our victory, usually done during praise and worship. It becomes a problem when someone cannot do praise and worship without their flags or become critical of others who do want to do that. Not defending Jenny AT ALL (I left the core bc I felt it was a cult), but not EVERY LITTLE THING she does is wrong.
I will set the truth on submitting to your husband. She always quoted submit to your husband scripture and we just had two fasts to pray and fast for our husbands. I don't feel you are telling all the truth. Demons can influence believers too. I am going to stop listening to the rest of this video. I will testify this group has made my relationship with Jesus closer and deeper.
I can uderstand why you were so exhausted. you focused your worry and performance on trying to do it all for the group instead of just soaking up the Lord. You didn’t have to clean up your room or light a candle or put music on and etc. that was your mind trying to bring comparison.
54:26 - I've been to some of these churches, and they didn't talk so much about the gospel, but in my mind at the time, it seemed because I was already saved, and I thought about the verses saying you should be eating meat by now instead of needing milk, and let us not build again the foundation, verses like that. But I suppose that we need reminding now and then about Christ and Him crucified.
The wages of sin is death, death was the penalty of sin, we have been delivered from death, which is different than being delivered from demonic spirits, deliverance from demonic spirits requires faith in God and, seeking Him because He gives us the power and authority to cast out demons but he himself can deliver us on His own as well by the power of His Holy Spirit. God wants us to be free and free indeed
Anyone know of sound doctrine church in S. Jersey or Philadelphia? Also, do you have any teachings on tithing? A minister that I listen to online says that those that do not pay tithe based on their gross pay will burn and will not be blessed. Just wanted to know your thoughts? Thank you.
I have begun to wonder if i should be rebaptized ... i was baptized when i was 11 & i certainly had an experience from it. But i fell away from the church for more than 10 years & didn't really seek God's will for my life & am starting to wonder if that's an indication that what i did at 11 wasn't done for the right reason? It was more out of fear than anything.
Jenny and stephan weaver 🤮 sorry, not sorry Oh, and they are minimum of 15,000 members (and that was about 2 mos ago)....at 'only' $20 per month per subscriber 🤔
I agree with this whole video. Except the holy spirt told me deborah annointing. Difference is I dont walk around thinking I am deborah. I just think God was showing me my giftings. I did read deborah annointing it did help my growth. But again the word is my main source. I just feel this whole movement is off balance. More simon the sorcers than anything.
Jenny traded one a cult for a nother . The same thing happened to me. I was delivered from witchcraft and ended up in a oneness church left 6 years later
I was almost drawn in and considered joining core group. The more live streams that popped into my feed that I watched, I was turned off by her attitude while ministering. It was an arrogance and assuming the worst in the audience. For example, if people would drop off the live, she would say something like "oh see the devils are getting mad right now...etc" I know for myself, I often drop off livestreams because I have a FAMILY who needs my attention hello somebody! And that doesn't mean I am less saved or less spiritual or anyone else for that matter. when I would hear her accuse others like that it just turned me off. this was a small example. Then I started learning about how dangerous the teaching is through lovely sisters like Dawn Hill and the Kozars.
Me too! I was so turned off by her attitude. There was no grace and love in her teachings.
I remember her saying that people who were questioning her or had concerns about her teachings are deceived by the devil. There's one person I know who spoke out against her, realized she didn't know if what she was saying was true so she apologized to Jenny, which Jenny said she accepted her apology and then when my friend needed something Jenny bought it for her. Then on one of Jenny's livestreams she said she bought the item for my friend because the Bible tells us to bless our enemies.
This is the first time I heard of this group.😊
@@albrow12 I think what you are saying is we might have her pegged wrong? Not sure what you meant but i that k you for your input. She is still our sister in Christ but I don’t have to agree with her teaching/interpretation. I think the discussions is helpful on all points so thanks !
@@michellewarren5842 no one is speaking against her as a sister in Christ. No one. What is being said is she is deceived hundreds of people and it needs to be exposed.
I have watched both videos with this sweet sister's testimony. Im currently leaving the hyper charismatic church and i am experiencing a lot of the same things.
I'm working through learning how to pray and relate to God, and that I don't need deliverance every day when things don't go well.
I am very lonely as all my friends are hyper charismatics and I can't speak to them about these things or they will say i have a demon and we need to bind and renounce the spirit of so and so... It's absolutely exhausting!!!
I will be visiting a local church next sunday, Lord willing, where the Bible is read and taught verse by verse and book by book.
I personally never had any interactions with Jenny, I think i listened to her twice before. I did however get sucked into this deliverance movement and I spent the last 7 years "casting out demons" instead of reading my Bible.
I'm very confused about a lot of things and I can't trust many people right now. Every time i hear a sincere believer say "the holy Spirit led me" and i know it's just a humble and sincere beliver, but I feel uncomfortable. I want to learn about the true Holy Spirit and not to be afraid of hearing a reference to Him. In the hyper charismatic movement the name of the Holy Spirit is so overused for literally everything that once you come out of that you can become very sensitive to hearing someone referring to the Holy Spirit leading. That's the worst thing that movement did for my faith, I'm scared to go against the Holy Spirit or to not accept Him because I'm afraid that may or may not be the Spirit.
Thank you both for sharing this video. Listening to that sister helped bring some comfort to my current situation.
I am so thankful to God for His mercy and grace 🙏🏻
When she said “it was exhausting” I felt that. It did feel like you could never win.
This video was what caused me to finally break away from all the NAR teachings. This movement caught me at a very young age when I was in high school, and just now, as a college student, I am finally feeling like I'm back to the simplicity and understanding of the Gospel. When she said "it was exhausting".. yeah it was! I pray for anyone in this movement. Thanks for the amazing video!
Thank you for this excellent conversation Dawn. People are very deceived by these superstars in deliverance ministries. It's so exhausting even listening to people like Jenny Weaver. Blessings to you and your family. ❤
The Holy Spirit doesn't do timeshare
Bless you Dawn for taking up this fight...bless you.
Btw...it's important to call these 'movements' what they are...
It's a Cult.
Oh...& Ryan Lestrange is one of the 'lead wolves'...
As well, it would seem pertinent to remember what a 'ravenous wolf' is & what they do...
You can't play nice w/ a famished predator.
It's time we (all of us)...stop pacifying this doctrine of demons
The group you were discussing sounded like a cult with all the hallmarks of cults. Eg. A charismatic leader who cannot be questioned, not being allowed to ask questions about the group's beliefs and practices, having nearly all of your time taken up with the group's activities thereby becoming exhausted (stops people from having the time or energy to question what is happening within the group), and being shunned by group members when leaving the group as well as other alarming practices.
Exactly. And don’t forget, also not being “allowed” to meet up with other grown women and requiring “permission” to do so!
This sounds stressful
Jenny Weaver mentioned in an interview with Isaiah Saldivar that she is 'under Ryan Lestrange's "covering"' so that is very much the definition of a cult.
@@sunshinerays2747Very much so. Another business posing as a religion. They all need to be taxed.
Wow I never put the dots together like this but your so right, I got sucked into all this and am just now realizing I’ve been deceived
Jenny is a scammer, I thank God for discernment!
$$$$$$ running a business, not a ministry
This is exactly why Jon Moffitt and Justin Purdue say that we must "rest in Christ". The burden of NAR and WoF is palpable.
I am so thankful you are getting this out. I’m shaking in my boots. I really am I have severe damage from this group. I feel so traumatized it’s nasty. I just want Jesus
I am so sorry to hear this. There is hope in the Lord Jesus Christ. I created a resource page for those coming out of this movement. Here is the link below for you. It is free, and you can check it out anytime, no pressure.
Please let me know if I can be of help.
www.lovesickscribe.com/resources
@@dawnhill1613 yes looks like someone didn’t want me to see this. Is this your direct info? I will go to website if so? Thank you
Praying for you sister. Please reach out to Dawn or I if you need help with anything. We are here for you 💗
God bless both of you for sharing. I almost joined it too and decided not to after praying and thinking about how Jesus sent the disciples out with nothing and he wouldn’t want me to pay to get anything from God. So I chose to quit following her and other deliverance ministers on social media. Thank God and I pray in Jesus Christ name more people see the truth!! Amen 🙏🏻
Amen sisters!!! Thank you Lord for these wise women that pursue the truth.
I 100% agree. This whole spiritual warfare practices are exhausting. When I was in this movement, I literally lived in fear that a demon would attach itself to me and wreak havoc in my life. What a wonderful blessed assurance came to me when I realized that Jesus had pad it all, He had defeated the devil and all I needed to do was rest in His finished work.
The Bible does talk alot about warfare but we need not fear. Oftentimes, people get way out of balance. It's important to understand what warfare is & how to defeat it. Even Jesus said so & gives us authority in His name.
No no the devil won’t quit just cause Jesus died on the cross we will go through Spiritual warfare at times. Please don’t be deceived thinking we can just rest no no we have to fight …Read Ephesians 6:10- that speaks on Spiritual warfare. yes we will have seasons of rest but we must constantly pray & intercede. The bible speaks on finishing the race of faith not just sit around. 2 Tim 4:6-8
Thank you for this.. something about Jenny has always upset my spirit. I asked God to show me the truth and this podcast came up in my feed.. Thank you both for doing this podcast and biblically discussing everything..
I thought the same thing myself but I thank God for true deliverance from false doctrine
I always thought there was something wrong with me because I didn’t experience Him like others were…then also thought He just didn’t love me as much 😢 He’s brought me out of that thinking…thank you for this video
Same, love you sister and so does God, I pray that God keeps leading us into truth ❤
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Wow, she described my old church and how the narrative about other churches "being dead" will cause spiritual pride. I began to look down on (per say) other churches that weren't doing deliverance and falling out in the Spirit. God opened my eyes so much coming out of a deliverance ministry and I'm so grateful for it. It did wreck me and caused me to reevaluate everything I've been taught for years. I feel as though I'm Re-learning who God is and it's been beautiful. So many are being trapped and placed in bonding by these ministries. So sad. Thank you so much for sharing your story and thank you Dawn for revealing and speaking truth. ❤
Someone reached out to me and wanted me to cover Jenny Weaver. Looks like you did. I will share this and save myself the heart ache and I am sure surge in my pressure!! Thanks Dawn for all you do!
This was a wonderful testimony Dawn what a precious Sister you are Dawn to take Patricia under your care and help her through this hard time in her life the love of Christ is real. Patricia you ard so brave and precious im so glad you came out of this movement praise God.The convicting power of the Holy Ghost is real and painful but,so necessary for us to grow and become what God has called us to be which is more Christ like and to grow in The grace and knowledge of Him ❤❤❤ I know when I watched Daniel Adams and jenny Weaver and other demon slayers I was a nervous wreck i thought everyone had a devil even my spouse it was craziness i had no peace or joy it truly is not of The Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus said, His yoke is easy and His burdens are light ( salvation) is wonderful resting in the finished work of Christ is peace,joy,love, Hope God bless you both in Jesus name Amen ❤❤❤
Most of the "demon slayers" have since broke ties with Daniel Adams because he wasn't acting appropriate
I'm listening to this again & to the part where your guest is explaining how she battled demonic thoughts and dreams continually. Perhaps the constant harping on the need to be fighting demons creates this perpetual cycle. When you're taught that demons are lurking everywhere & you need be always battling them the more your need for Jenny's teachings, courses and books on how to combat them !
I had been hoping you would address Jenny Weaver ! Thank you for your relentless perseverance 🌺
Listened to this episode as I was preparing for work. I enjoyed it thoroughly. I saw Jenny Weaver on either a Destiny Image or CBN video awhile ago. She reminds me of another false female prophet in my home country who specializes in dream interpretation and anointing any and everything with olive oil. A female friend of my family attended this false prophetess' church on a Sunday morning and literally saw two Shadowy figures on her pulpit as she preached clowning around and making spot (or sport?) of her. Bare in mind that my friend attends a solid Bible believing church that is non-charismatic. God opened her eyes in order to show her the spirit behind the prophetess' ministry.
Wow 😯 thank you for sharing this ❤
Dawn thank you for sharing your testimony and helping so many people. Also to this young woman I want to encourage you to keep being patient with all who push you away or block you because of their delusional beliefs. It's not just you. You are a sweet gentle soul. I've agreed with everything you said and want to say be faithful to the Word of God and let your light shine.
Thank you for the encouragement! I will pass this message onto Trish. 💗
Such an important topic to discuss! Thank you Dawn! These “superstar Christians/ leaders” are so so dangerous! Great insight! ❤
When I saw her membership Core group last year I knew deep down this is not the right path to Go.. The gospel of Jesus Christ is Free, deliverance and praying is Free..
I pray for Jenny and those in the group that they leave this teaching and read the Bible and repent.
Jenny always reads the Bible this is all ridiculous and lies, pure slander
Maybe “now” but that wasn’t the case when I was fully in this group. We emphasized other books. Never had an actual bible study. Holding the Bible up and talking the majority of the time about other things is not a bible study.
@@aprilmichalak901these aren’t lies, Dawn has backed up everything in the video with scripture and it matches perfectly, thank you Lord Jesus for opening my eyes to the truth and I pray He will help you too, we love you and are praying for you ❤
This girl was shunned. It wasn’t about Christ.. I see what they are saying now and I am leaving core as well
I always had a certain level of discomfort about Jenny. Wasn't specifically sure why, because I never followed her or listened to much of anything she had to say. I just knew she was on CBN and talked a lot about deliverance and "The Prophetic". That alone made me very skeptical. It's a shame that so may follow her, and those like her. What happened to discernment in the church? And since when do we go into our prayer closet, and put a camera on us? Very good commentary sister.
Why does deliverance and the prophetic make you skeptical?it’s biblical lol
@@aringandarobe777 It's the way modern preachers teach deliverance. What many of them teach is NOT biblical.
Sounds a lot like some of the experiences our family had when we were members of Rodney howard-brownes Church. There was a big emphasis on experiences, speaking in tongues and even "singing and singing songs with angels" in tongues. There was a big emphasis on winning souls but never spreading the gospel. They had their soul winners track, have another person repeat the words that's it, they were marked down as being saved. So many disturbing things took place there, looking back I know and understand that now. I was one who was left wondering what was wrong with me too, I didn't experience like other people did. I even walked away from church for a while.....I thank God for the work of the Holy Spirit in my life. I thank God for people like this lady who share their story. It's very disturbing to see how many are trapped in the bondage of these groups
Just because other’s experience & you didn’t doesn’t mean you or them are in error. We all have different experiences with Christ. My pastor is under him and Dr Rodney is a man Of God so I have to disagree. It may seem like a lot & out of the norm but he does operate differently than other churches because he focuses a lot on the Supernatural so we don’t naturally understand. Speaking in tongues is in the Word of God Romans 8:26-27
@@rere8635 respectfully Romans 8:26-27 isn't sharing about speaking in tongues, if you'll notice towards the end of verse 26 it reads as follows: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
It clearly shows the Spirit itself makes intercession praying on our part, He pray words that cannot be uttered. To utter means a manner of speaking, emission from the mouth or to vocalize. It's shared in that passage that the Spirit prays in a way that CANNOT be uttered. It doesn't say He prays and vocalizes through us.
According to those who speak in tongues one must utter or vocalize sounds thus speaking in tongues.
As for Brownes experiences and his teachings for that matter, if they do not line up with Scripture after being tested by scripture, they, he ought to be marked and avoided.
Either scripture is sufficient or it isn't
@@PennyLinn1980 No ma’am.. I suggest you go to someone for wisdom on that scripture like an elder & etc because folks tend to misinterpret this topic about tongues …Matter of fact prayer on this. That scripture is talking about speaking in tongues…Tongues is spiritual not for the natural mind your trying to interpret naturally its not natural. It brings closer intimacy with God. You actually run out of prayers coming from the natural mind thats what this scripture indicates. Its absolutely true because sometimes we run out of what to pray naturally but when I pray in spirit God even interprets it for me cause its coming from my spirit not my mind . I would recommend praying for wisdom on this matter luv…Far as the Brownes this is all about your feelings & emotions doesn’t mean they are not lined up …God bless🤍
@@rere8635 Thank you for you kind response. Prayer is amazing and wisdom is welcome. I pray the Holy Spirit helps all who seek truth in the scriptures.
My cousin and her family are in deep with the Core Group. Has anyone looked Jenny up? There is nothing on her or her husband, only anything that has to do with The Core Group. I even looked up her so-called "police record", where she posted her mugshots from to her website...and it does not exist. Her mugshots say she was arrested in Hillsborough County (where I live) but her name, dates and reason for arrests are all edited out. Suspicious! I really do not think those are even their real names. They also convince you to alienate yourself from your family. Scammers and definitely a cult. Don't Fall For It!
I don’t think it’s her real name either! I have sensed that from the beginning as well. Try her brothers name Dorsey. That was a drastic measure as well. Michael Dorsey.
Are you guys serious? Wow.. it's that deep huh? Why put all that energy and research? If you don't trust her, don't follow her. Very simple.
@@kellyevans1284 because many are deceived!
@@kellyevans1284 oh please…people are paying her money, folks have a right to know who she really is.
Another lie saying core group doesn’t read bibles or study it in class
It’s a must to have your Bible ready and to go by the word
And no one goes around saying everything’s a demon
No
I feel like some of these online celebrity preachers start out with really pure intentions. They’re radically transformed and want the WORLD to know this God that changed them. But somewhere along the way, the fame and notoriety goes to their head. They realize this can be used to make them rich. And they become tainted.
I noticed this one online “prophet” I was following started to become more of a personality than a mouthpiece for God. I noticed that she was good at marketing and good at getting people to feel like they NEEDED to come back everyday to hear from her. They NEEDED to spend hours of their day with her in order to grow. They NEEDED to participate in everything she was doing to not miss God. They NEEDED… her. Myself included. Which I repented for. And I noticed that she enjoyed the people’s NEED for her just a little too much. I started praying that she would not be overtaken by pride. The more I watched, the more it seemed to be the case.
It’s just so disheartening. 😢😔
Well I see the incredible fruit from her ministry and it’s evident that she is on fire 🔥 for Jesus!! Her testimony is evidence of the saving power and fire of the Holy Spirit!! We need to be baptized in the Holy Spirit too. It’s not just a one and done!
This sister is absolutely precious!!! I completely love and understand her heart for the Lord...I also love to be face down in reverence and in love with the Lord 🥰🙏💞. Bless you both
Jenny's core group is being operated as a cult. Reminds me from when I was a JW. Tfs.
Wow! Such truth. And when the Holy Spirit resides in you, your heart leaps when it hears truth. ❤ oh and love your hair Dawn😊.
PS. I think these groups work so well and grow because they appeal to the flesh.
That's exactly it- they appeal to the FLESH and to experience- not Biblical truth.
Thank you for sharing this. I have been back and forth on joining this but it just repeatedly was not sitting well with me. God had me find this to solidify my discernment. Thank you for putting your experience based on scripture.
I just started following you after finding you through Doreen Virtue.
Thank you for covering this! Just saw that JW made her core group sign NDAs. Terrible!
Shortly after finding Isaiah Saldivar, I found Jenny Weaver. Something about Jenny Weaver's spirit really scared me and I couldn't figure out why. I hope more people find your video! Thanks again for your interviews and great coverage. God bless
500 women delete her overnight... wow. That's not a Christian response for anyone to do at all, sounds more like a cult.
Exactly Deleting her because she left the core. Wow. I also call that immaturity.
I know from my own personal experience Just fasting and praying and at the feet of The LORD sometimes you have to wait in The LORD. HE says enter into HIS presence with thanksgiving and enter into HIS courts with praise. Sometimes we don’t want to tap in and feel HIS presence because to our flesh it’s to much. We want quick and easy but gives hours to everything else.
Im so glad I came to this podcast, well HE probably sent me here, I was considering Jenny’s core group but several things were holding me back and your discussion confirmed my doubts and questions….Thank you
Wow, when she said demonic dream and not having them sense leaving the group, wow!! I experienced this mostly with my "christian" counselor, & some with friends and family that are involved in the same things. I went to my hubs and pastor and have to say I feel soooo much better. And have been doing a deep dive learning how this happened and why. Yes Jim Osman's Truth or Territory book is a big part to all that help.. thank you Dawn for your podcasts!!! ❤ & Prayers for you sisters!!
May God bless you, thank you so so much! I FEEL FREEEEEE!! Thank you JESUS!! 🙌🏼
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It's so beautiful to see people running from these pagans!!!May the Lord bless your ministry Dawn and may you always speak the truth and always stay biblical!!Keep fighting the good fight of faith my sister!!!!
I feel for this lady. I left the core group after I heard the Lord tell me to stop. I was butted out of the inner group at church for voicing my concerns … when I was a part of the core group I never experienced as much anxiety before.
Is she continues to grow her following I truly believe there will be a Netflix series one day exposing this cult
Amazing! To me, she helped me because she was one of the channels that helped me out of the new age. But after these first days I never went back to her channel, never felt it. Even when I saw the videos in my feed, I didn't feel it. So, I guess, she has her place somewhere there. Praise the lord for shining the light forth!
I liked Jenny 's testimony about coming out of New age & witchcraft. After that
..felt no need or desire to follow her. Something just felt off.
This gives me hope that a family member who is being deceived by this, the Holy Spirit will pull him out for Gods glory😊
I was in the group a month felt God lead me out. I was in a very biblical Bible study read the Bible so in the prayer alone there was red flags scripture taken out of context.
Others left I had them as friends even though I had already paid for my 2nd month got kicked out of everything simply for being associated with the women who left the group. I'm thankful I didn't get caught up in it.
Thanks Dawn another great podcast, starting to really enjoy your talks ,you are a true believer with the experience to call out the false teachers.
Thanks from the uk 🇬🇧👍🙏🙏🙏
Thank you for listening and for the encouragement. To God be the glory!
I feel duped, my whole twenties I spent in a Pentecostal church, I even had an older lady tell me if I didn’t speak in tongues then there’s a problem with my faith, I left the church and after 10 years (being church less and feeling like I was a Christian but was a false convert, and there was no fruit and I was still living fully in the world) I got truly saved and born again just this last Nov 2023 and was tempted back towards these teachings, but kept feeling very off, but I’m like it’s just me….. right? Thank you because since I’ve found your’s and Doreen’s vids I now know the deceit that I was falling for and it feels very freeing hearing the truth. I’ve been trying so hard to be “good” scared I won’t make it to Heaven and I now know that it’s only because of Jesus that I have the right to go to Heaven and that I don’t deserve
It’s great to speak in tongues but it doesn’t stop you from going to Heaven nor does it mean your not saved. It does brings closer intimacy with God plus builds up your spirit & you should have faith to receive but not a salvation issue if you don’t. Romans 8:26-27
This has nothing to do with Jenny Weaver as much as it does with how you view God’s presence. I think we also need to evaluate ourselves as to what’s blocking you from feeling God’s presence. That’s not a “you” problem but the lies of the enemy. You have to be spiritually strong and mature and make sure you are under Holy Ghost filled spiritual leaders that can help you through that. Don’t blame Jenny and just to help you don’t blame yourself. Tell the enemy he is a liar
Glad the truth about these different deliverance ministries are being revealed. Jesus is our deliverance.
Jenny also teaches we can 'activate the Gifts of the Holy Spirit' as in pick and choose which Gift and be in charge of it. This is the heart of witchcraft. She believes that she is under Ryan Lestrange's 'spiritual covering' as well, so he seems to be at the heart of this cult.
I agree with you, numbers mean nothing to God if the multitude of people are not right with Him, many people can be in a church but it doesn't mean good fruit is being beared.
Waving a t shirt like Benny Hinn automatically elevates you to 🤡 status.
I quit following when I realized their affiliation with Greg Locke. All of them. Then I saw him partner with Benny Hinn
That's CARRAAZZY!
@@keliesims7363Benny Hinn? Wow! Anyone who is affiliated with that charlatan can't be trusted or taken seriously.
I just found out from this video that that’s what she does!! Wow had I known I wouldn’t have fallen for any of this to begin with honestly, I was sucked in by the Mike guy from New York, and vlad from the hungry gen, and Isaiah saldavar, I kind steered away from Jenny though just always felt weird about her…but thank you Jesus for opening my eyes
My wife is caught up in this but I'm the devil for calling her out
Pray for her like my husband prayed for me. She will see the truth someday. I’m believing in faith.
You two should read the word and pray together. She probably mistakingly thinks your trying to control her. Try and be patient. We ALL err. Pray and be patient.
She tells you not everything is a demon!!
Literally. I agree with some things but other things I don't agree with. She does bring her Bible to classes and reads from the Bible. She says the core belongs to the Lord.
This video is NOT 100% accurate
This is the problem with the church today, coming against each instead of fighting the devil. These ladies are not telling the truth at all. She needs to repent & ask God to forgive her for lieing. Jenny Weaver loves God. The Bible says you will know them by the fruit they display.
I would kindly ask you to please provide the specific statements where we are lying. You're welcome to disagree. However, if you are going to accuse someone of lying, then provide specifics.
@@dawnhill1613 I have been a part of the Core for about a year and a half & Jenny always encouraged students to meet up to have coffee or lunch. She always would say that if you are needing to have a demon cast out of you all of the time clearly you are not growing in Christ. She also encourages local church participation & said on many occasions that you should tithe at your church. She also has said if your church gets mad at you for visiting another church or ministry you are probably dealing with controlling people. The dues were to be able to give something to the admins that assist her. $20 is a very small amount to pay for online teaching of any kind.
@LeadingNationstoTheRock the teaching that Christians have indwelling demons is unfounded in Scripture.
I ask again, where are we lying? I have heard Jenny say that her doctrine can not be contested, and she is also not an apostle. Every person's doctrine and teaching or claimed teaching is to be tested, including hers. Furthermore, there are no modern apostles today. She claims revelation from the Holy Spirit. On what authority?
I urge you to consider what you are sitting under.
@@dawnhill1613 What you just said is also not true, Jenny is accountable to a leader & she has been ordained as an Apostle. It’s clear that we don’t agree & that’s ok. Be Blessed.
@LeadingNationstoTheRock it is true. She said those things or stated them, either in videos or on her website. I know the leader who affirmed her. I was affiliated with him for 18 years. Please go back to Scripture and consider what you are listening to and what is being taught. This is said out of concern for you.
Putting this in my watch later, I get alot of requests on Jenny Weaver.
It was the reverse in our house. My husband was caught up in the "demon slayers" garbage. I'm SO thankful i did NOT submit to him and come under those teachings. He was in it for about 6-7 months and it almost broke us.
The teachings about being a Debra and Esther etc is just religious feminism.
We can't be the humble housewife and mother caring for the family. We have to exhaust ourselves and neglect the family for this grand plan we're told we're to accomplish. Feed the ego and be the superhero in our own story.
Just like with the snobbery against the "dead churches," this forms a snobbery against other women who don't live their lives for their egocentric purpose.
Yea this is confirmation!!! Thank you
This Core Group is 💯CULT. I know I was unfortunately in one. Only follow YESHUA
The Bible says you shall know them by the fruit of the spirit, not by how many people follow them. In the end days we will see a great apostasy. People will be looking for pastors to tell them things they want to hear
I use to listen to her...her testimony was drawing...but praise God my Ps was teaching us one day about Ps churches that focus on these deliverance teachings etc....and not teaching scripture.Last days a lot of false teachers and churches will appear.
I’m saddened to hear the inaccuracy she is describing here. I’ve been in the core group for about 2 months now and NONE the lessons, fasts, or daily confessions (haven’t heard a single word about this) are mandatory. All teachings are archived for members to go back and listen to as time allows. If your ego was inflated from being in the core group then you were there for the wrong reasons to begin with. Jenny weaver has said multiple times if you are waking up and wanting her teachings before God then to leave now bc you’re in idol worship. It sounds like you did the right thing by leaving. Stay close to the Lord; he will always meet you where you are. 💓
She absolutely did the right thing by leaving, and I would encourage anyone else to do the same. Please get back to the Word rightly divided, and be willing to judge yourself. Grace and peace.
They shunned her that’s not Christ like. This women is saying nothing hateful
I agree with you , the inaccuracy is scary. Specifically, the part that you can't meet up with your sisters without her approval, wow wow wow , we meet up all the time without her approval. And everything in the group isn't set on stone, and by that said, we never have to do everything. You will do it at your own pace, and also we read from the Bible that we are supposed to have our bibles out and ready. This is a very deceitful video.
Also, she doesn't speak FOR God , that's a little too much . Sad.
Start going to other peoples church events, meeting up with them for those specific things (outside of core) and please tell me she will be fine with that. Do not call me inaccurate when I have proof of these allegations towards me and the group of women I was with. We were NOT allowed to go to other peoples churches (hence that’s meeting outside of core). You cannot come on here and discount something you know nothing about. You can’t come on here an accuse when you aren’t the one who went through something like this. Shalom 💗
@patriciawilliams1628 are you willing to share your proof? You know, if you are really trying to unmask the "Core Cult". sharing your proof would be actually more efficient. Because by what you are saying, it doesn't ailing with what I'm experiencing myself ,so it sounds inaccurate and lies.
When you said if your husband is telling you something is off and you need to get out of this group she was dead on. It lead to destroying a marriage and family here. 2 years in the movement = divorce.
My husband told me when I left that he didn't feel right about her. I asked him what it was, and he said he didn't know but he didn't want to tell me since he didn't know what it was. I told him, next time you have a feeling about someone I'm listening to TELL ME. Because his feeling was correct. He was raised in the church and in the Word. So he knew she wasn't teaching the Word correctly. He just couldn't put a finger on it.
I'm so sorry. The "deliverance ministries" almost did the same for us. I'm thankful to have gotten my husband away from it as we wouldn't have lasted much longer, and he was only in it about 6 months.
Destroyed my relationship too. Lots of prayer needed for those caught up in it.
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Update to my comment: now my husband is a huge follower of Mark Driscoll. 🤦🏻♀️And still went and saw the new "demon slayer" movie because Mark is in it.
Come as you are, you do not have to preform or your house look a certain way, he meets us where we are when we seek him
I was going to join her movement and then something inside told me it’s off and ask God for real godly believers reading Bible. The fact she charges for subscription it’s already off, because Bible say freely receive freely give. Then I saw many videos and comments of former girls, who were attending like this video and they speak about her character and attitude. Fruits of the Holy Spirit are love, kindness, compassion , self control. I saw online she can be off with her so called love of christ. Like a split persona acting online and offline opposite. You only belong, when paying for the class, if not we don’t welcome you. That’s ungodly. Jesus was a friend and never worried about the titles, such being called rabbai or pastor. He came as a friend and healed and delivered and preached for free.
I been in core group for two years
On Mondays and Tuesdays we have class
There is a day for core men’s and a day for core marriages Saturday core kids have a zoom class and teens have a day also
Not ever was there a 6/7 day class
It’s all studied from the Bible all glory to the lord no one is big headed it’s all in the name of Jesus and nothing the weavers do shows selfish prosperity ministry
They moved on assignment from the lord doing deliverances now is a season of baptisms
$20 covers your whole family or just your self
Retreats where we worship the lord, pray, Bible study and fellowships were all free if not super cheap if ever was a fee. We have core intersession classes that’s also free we can have local meetups all we want
They are not control freaks doing this for fame and fortune the false lies and spirit of witchcraft needs to end now in the name of Jesus
I would encourage you not to come on here and slander people by saying witchcraft is being done. Pointing back to God's Word in the proper context is what we are to do. The very fact that you are perpetuating her teaching of such things and assigning spirits to those who would dare say anything contrary is troubling.
Go back to the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Hello. I joined the beginning of this month. I'm already questioning it.
Thank you for sharing your story.. I was not deep into core groups , but I was uneasy about things and questioned things.. especially about these hype movements it makes one feel just like you described how it made you feel.
Thank You for another very good podcast Dawn. Tracey Burroughs from South Africa 🇿🇦 watching your video
i was in the inside. The lord gave me a word to rebuke the lensa app that was let into the core group October last year or something then the lord had me release in the core group and It was not towards Jenny it eas everyone following the movement if this lensa app that Jenny was side blinded when she allowed this app in. God burdened my heart so much. I release a a video and Jenny deleted it off the core group. The righteous indignation I felt by the lord wow. Too much to say here. But the lord had me rebuke jenny in December it was harsh. The idolatry and the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and pride of life is the only fruits yielding in the core. I pray she repents for operating in JEZEBEL and come out of her and the purity she first had for God.
Honestly girls , Jenny Weaver is not the person seem to think she is .
The things this woman is sharing is the same thoughts I had for a looong time because I wasn’t feeling Him (God) like these Charismatic people. The Lord Jesus led me to stop listening to people like Jenny Weaver back in 2019 and I still struggled until 2021 with that.
I felt like why should I pay $20 a month to join the group. Why can’t it be free? But then we pay for everything else and give our money to everything else. 🤷🏽♀️
If I may offer this for consideration. You shouldn't have to pay for Biblical discipleship. The Core is a sad example of taking advantage of people for shameful gain and teaching things that should not be taught. 12,500 women are members. That's $250,000 a month, 3 million dollars a year toward a nonprofit organization, which is her ministry.
The teachings are not based on solid Biblical teaching, and Jenny is not an apostle. There are other concerns, including deliverance teaching, but I hope what I shared helps. God bless!
@@dawnhill1613she's not an Apostle? Really? She doesn't like people addressing her as only "Jenny". I feel uncomfortable calling her "Mama". I think I need to leave it before my first month is even up. The CDN$ conversion is shocking.$30 when converted. I don't have time for the "lives" either.
@dawnm9971 I'm thankful you took time to watch, and I hope it helps in your decision. I have great concerns about this group.
Everything the guest is saying how all this experience made her feel is exactly what I have been going through myself with Katherine Krick and all that this Jenny Weaver seems to focus and teach is exactly the same with Katherine Krick in her services, her weekly Q&A’s, weekly Zoom miracles which I have been doing for months and received deliverance when she came to DC but my life my son’s Autism all just has gotten worse than ever I desperate for help
Watch Derek Prince he was great on deliverance his wisdom will help he’s deceased now but teachings are still powerful 🙏🏾
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@dawnhill1613 You seem very intelligent and talented. Just think what we could do to push forward the Kingdom of God if we stopped heresy hunting and serving the enemy, causing division among the body. Let us be in one spirit! As apostle Paul said, “ but to me, it is a very small thing that I should be examined by you, or by any human court, in fact, I do not even examine myself. I am conscious of nothing against myself, yet I am not by this acquitted, but the one who examines me is the Lord. Therefore do not go on passing judgment before the time, but wait until the Lord comes, he will both bring the light to things hidden in the darkness, and disclose the motive of men’s hearts. 1 Corinthians 4:3-5
Unity is not partnering or agreeing with error. This also is not heresy hunting. If I may ask, do you say these same things to such people as Jenny who call those of us who disagree full of demons and Pharisees?
Also, we are to judge with righteous judgment, John 7:24. I appreciate your comment. Have a blessed day!
Nothing wrong with waiving the flags….Remember Jehovah Nissi-the LORD is our banner (or flag), our victory. Waiving the flag is celebrating our victory, usually done during praise and worship. It becomes a problem when someone cannot do praise and worship without their flags or become critical of others who do want to do that. Not defending Jenny AT ALL (I left the core bc I felt it was a cult), but not EVERY LITTLE THING she does is wrong.
Thank you ladies so much for sharing!
I will set the truth on submitting to your husband. She always quoted submit to your husband scripture and we just had two fasts to pray and fast for our husbands. I don't feel you are telling all the truth. Demons can influence believers too. I am going to stop listening to the rest of this video. I will testify this group has made my relationship with Jesus closer and deeper.
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This is So good. Love this sis great work
Thank you, Jesse! Good to see you back on here!
I can uderstand why you were so exhausted. you focused your worry and performance on trying to do it all for the group instead of just soaking up the Lord. You didn’t have to clean up your room or light a candle or put music on and etc. that was your mind trying to bring comparison.
The flag waving seems very much like pagan and the occult. Witch doctors use props and rituals similar to this.
The flags and tongues are used to promote a hypnotic or suggestive state. It’s an altered state of consciousness, like in witchcraft.
What??! I’m sorry hon,but that was a reach 🥲
It’s not witchcraft they had banners in the Bible that they would waive
The worshipers were in the front it’s a form of worship
Pagan religions are a counterfeit of the Living God. There are lots of similarities.
Flag worship is biblical.
If u love Me, you will obey Me, and I will manifest My Presence to you
Wow so glad I cut jenny weaver off my social media
Well I am canceling my membership right away.
54:26 - I've been to some of these churches, and they didn't talk so much about the gospel, but in my mind at the time, it seemed because I was already saved, and I thought about the verses saying you should be eating meat by now instead of needing milk, and let us not build again the foundation, verses like that. But I suppose that we need reminding now and then about Christ and Him crucified.
I love your heart Dawn
Love your talks sister. Rock on truth it matters.❤️
The wages of sin is death, death was the penalty of sin, we have been delivered from death, which is different than being delivered from demonic spirits, deliverance from demonic spirits requires faith in God and, seeking Him because He gives us the power and authority to cast out demons but he himself can deliver us on His own as well by the power of His Holy Spirit. God wants us to be free and free indeed
Anyone know of sound doctrine church in S. Jersey or Philadelphia? Also, do you have any teachings on tithing? A minister that I listen to online says that those that do not pay tithe based on their gross pay will burn and will not be blessed. Just wanted to know your thoughts? Thank you.
@@karmelabun1999 I have church finder links on my resource page that may help you:
www.lovesickscribe.com/resources
I have begun to wonder if i should be rebaptized ... i was baptized when i was 11 & i certainly had an experience from it. But i fell away from the church for more than 10 years & didn't really seek God's will for my life & am starting to wonder if that's an indication that what i did at 11 wasn't done for the right reason? It was more out of fear than anything.
Jenny and stephan weaver 🤮 sorry, not sorry
Oh, and they are minimum of 15,000 members (and that was about 2 mos ago)....at 'only' $20 per month per subscriber 🤔
I saw that she opened a cash app for her daughter, on her daughters 14th birthday, so that the core group could bless her
@@sandral34 no way, it just keeps getting worse
Grifters
God doesn’t work this way. If you are in this cult…. Run away.
thats £300,000 a month! thats not even including extra course she charges for just subscription 😳
Deliverance ministers sound like screaming little girls to me..and that's the men
I see lots of churches people not bringing the bible and read it when they bring the sermon...thats dangerous....
OH THIS SOUNDS SO SAD I WILL COME BACK A BIT LATER
I agree with this whole video. Except the holy spirt told me deborah annointing. Difference is I dont walk around thinking I am deborah. I just think God was showing me my giftings. I did read deborah annointing it did help my growth. But again the word is my main source. I just feel this whole movement is off balance. More simon the sorcers than anything.
Amen!
I have a really close friend who is in the core group 😢
Jenny traded one a cult for a nother . The same thing happened to me. I was delivered from witchcraft and ended up in a oneness church left 6 years later
My name is also Tricia and I can identify with you in this story….