This is such an interesting video! And completely explains why I am determinedly learning astrology in order to feel comfy using its correspondences in tarot. And I'm really trying to hold my horses on learning the I Ching for the reasons you've explained here because I think it will be really interesting and valuable but I need to convince my AuDHD brain that I can only go down so many rabbit holes at once 😅
A lot of really good points raised here! And I agree, I tend to look for the underlying philosophy or organization behind associations. There is always benefit in learning about other systems, whether or not you're going to use them, if only to continually remind yourself that all systems are rooted in the cultures they're created or used in. I sort of have a question, or at least something I'm grappling with. And sorry if this question doesn't make any sense, I'm sorta struggling to crystalize it here! Basically, on the one hand I really like Hellenistic astrology. I understand it's not a "perfect" system, it's rooted in a particular culture that had, among other things, a lot of ideas of inherent superiority that ended up influencing the attitudes of the western world that lead to a lot of sh*tty things. It does not always line up with my concepts or values. And of course I know it is not the only or "best" system. But at the same time, I'm hesitant to take the "not my Mars" approach of "well to me, Mars means this and doesn't mean this". Partly it's because I really like having the stability of a "pre-existing" set of meanings associations, archetypes, etc. -- I do not agree with all of them (gender being a huge obvious one), but having something there is at least giving me something to critique, ya know? Also, I worry about whether certain ideas or biases from that system will always show through, or if they'll subconsciously influence me/my work in a negative direction. Sorta the whole problem of "we live in a capitalist world, and by living in it you are forced to participate in capitalism to a certain extent no matter how against it you are". "If you're using a Hellenistic system, you're forced to participate in some negatives of that systems no matter how against them you are." Not to mention the issue of not even knowing or being able to decide what some of my underlying philosophical beliefs are, which are sort of the underpinning of everything. (How am I supposed to build a magical system if I can't even decide if I'm an animist or not?) Okay this got really long here. I guess the central question--is there ever a way of mitigating harmful biases without giving up [any given system's] supportive structure?
This is such an interesting video! And completely explains why I am determinedly learning astrology in order to feel comfy using its correspondences in tarot. And I'm really trying to hold my horses on learning the I Ching for the reasons you've explained here because I think it will be really interesting and valuable but I need to convince my AuDHD brain that I can only go down so many rabbit holes at once 😅
A lot of really good points raised here! And I agree, I tend to look for the underlying philosophy or organization behind associations. There is always benefit in learning about other systems, whether or not you're going to use them, if only to continually remind yourself that all systems are rooted in the cultures they're created or used in.
I sort of have a question, or at least something I'm grappling with. And sorry if this question doesn't make any sense, I'm sorta struggling to crystalize it here! Basically, on the one hand I really like Hellenistic astrology. I understand it's not a "perfect" system, it's rooted in a particular culture that had, among other things, a lot of ideas of inherent superiority that ended up influencing the attitudes of the western world that lead to a lot of sh*tty things. It does not always line up with my concepts or values. And of course I know it is not the only or "best" system.
But at the same time, I'm hesitant to take the "not my Mars" approach of "well to me, Mars means this and doesn't mean this". Partly it's because I really like having the stability of a "pre-existing" set of meanings associations, archetypes, etc. -- I do not agree with all of them (gender being a huge obvious one), but having something there is at least giving me something to critique, ya know?
Also, I worry about whether certain ideas or biases from that system will always show through, or if they'll subconsciously influence me/my work in a negative direction. Sorta the whole problem of "we live in a capitalist world, and by living in it you are forced to participate in capitalism to a certain extent no matter how against it you are". "If you're using a Hellenistic system, you're forced to participate in some negatives of that systems no matter how against them you are." Not to mention the issue of not even knowing or being able to decide what some of my underlying philosophical beliefs are, which are sort of the underpinning of everything. (How am I supposed to build a magical system if I can't even decide if I'm an animist or not?)
Okay this got really long here. I guess the central question--is there ever a way of mitigating harmful biases without giving up [any given system's] supportive structure?